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What To Listen To Next: Dan Taberski's Manifesto

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Just in time for America’s 250th birthday, follow Dan Taberski (Hysterical, 9/12, Missing Richard Simmons) as he sets off on his most complicated quest yet: to reclaim the manifesto and write his own....

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This is your host, Laura Beale.

I hope you enjoyed this season of Dr. Death,

and I want to thank you for listening. Now that you're done with this show,

β€œyou're probably looking for the next thing to listen to.”

I have a recommendation. It's called Dan Taburski's manifesto. And Dr. Death, the cowboy, Dr. Schneider took advantage of a broken system. Dan Taburski's manifesto is a podcast about what to do

when you want to change a system that isn't working. What begins as a historical narrative blends into modern-day conversation that asks the question, how do we envision what the future can be? And how can we do it without violence?

Manifesto guides the listener through a history of human frustration and collective longing for something better.

Ultimately, the series proposes a new approach to history.

One's shaped by a diverse group of visionaries with nothing to lose, but the brighter future that they're demanding. We're about to play a clip from Manifesto. Listen to Manifesto wherever you get your podcasts. Automal listeners can binge all episodes of Manifesto

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β€œStart your audible subscription in the audible app”

or on Apple Podcasts. February 2013, Venice, California. [MUSIC PLAYING] It's my last few months in Los Angeles before I move back east. And then I late 30s, living by the beach,

learning to serve the crumbly waves on my longboard. My skin smells like the ocean all the time. I feel amazing. I look amazing. I look amazing.

But I'm not taking you back in my time

as she knew because of how good I look, which was very. It's because of what happened next in Southern California. That cut through that dreamy scene and swapped it out with harsh reality. Police Center by California are investigating the double murder of a young couple in the parking lot of their apartment complex.

Reports of a homicide in neighboring Orange County. 27-year-old Keith Lawrence and his fiance 28-year-old Monica Quan were found shot to death in Lawrence's car late Sunday night. Two young people, a couple recently engaged. The guy was a public safety officer at USC,

and she was an assistant basketball coach at a local university. Murdered. Well, part in their white Kia Optima. Investigators do not yet have a suspect description or a motive. And immediately, the details of the crime

begin to add up to something bigger than a one-time thing. Like, when their bodies are found by the police, the victim's necklace is still on her neck. Her new engagement ring is still firmly on her finger, which means this isn't a robbery.

Also, investigators find evidence of 14 shots having been fired. To a lot of bullets for just two people cornered in their car.

β€œBut the number of neighbors who actually heard those 14 shots?”

Zero. So maybe there was a silence around the gun, which would mean the killer probably isn't new to this, that maybe they're a professional. Remind detectives have been working day and night since this tragedy.

The Irvine Police Chief takes to the podium to tell the people of Southern California that they are going to have to buckle up for a ride. Today, we have identified Christopher Dornner as a suspect in this double homicide.

Because the suspect, Christopher Dornner, is no ordinary suspect. Dornner was an LAP officer through 2009, and a reservist for the United States Navy. Dornner is a former LAPD cop, and he's still out there.

And there's reason to believe that he's going to kill again, that maybe he already has. And we know this, because Christopher Dornner left something behind. A particular interest at this point in the investigation

is a multi-page manifesto in which the suspect has implicated himself in the slanks. And this manifesto on Facebook is 11 pages long. Praise this manifesto from this suspect who's targeting cops. It's stunning.

It is stunning, sheppin' it says. He's been very well trained, you know, LAPD, some of the best trained officers in the country. And I tell you, this manifesto, it scares a hell out of me. I'm Dan Taburski.

From audible originals and please, and thanks productions, this is manifesto. Episode one, two, America. Subject, last resort. [MUSIC PLAYING]

I am in the market for a manifesto. I happen for a while now to be honest. The world is on fire. I'll spare you the details we've all got our own faves. And I mean, really, what fresh words could be left to describe

what fresh hell were presented with day after day?

Even more concerning for me, even more surprising,

has been my own reaction to it, and how difficult it's been

to get a handle on how angry it is all made me. I'm not an angry person. I am a relatively happy guy. But I find myself ceasing, underneath, all the time. My patience has become strained, my temper too short.

My ability to hear anyone has vaporized while I simmer, just under the surface. And I'm afraid pretty soon I'll have slid all the way over to the dark side. Not the right side of the left side, but the burn it all down side. And I'm waiting for someone to tell us,

β€œhow do we move past this shit show that we've created for ourselves?”

What do we do now? So, yeah, wanted, explosive manifesto, a vision for the future. No fun too big or small.

A manifesto is a call to action.

It's an artful scream. It's words spoken or written that are putting the world on notice, that the way things are, the way they've been, they got a change. I've been mainlining manifestos for months. Long ones, short ones, sad ones, mad ones,

pals on the floor and in my Google Docs, as many manifestos as there are grapes about the world, and big ideas to fix it. I read a manifesto against cussing, written by a middle schooler. Then I read a manifesto that starts to manifest this mother fucker.

The painter David Hockney wrote a manifesto for smoking. Death awaits you even if you do not smoke. He lived in nearly 90, smoking too delicious packs a day to the very end. There's hacker manifestos, there's surrealist manifestos. There's polygamous manifestos.

The communist manifesto, that specter haunting Europe, inspired revolution after revolution. In the '60s, in the '70s, there was the bitch manifesto, the scum manifesto, the manifesto of 343 sluts. That one's in French.

manifestos can demand just about anything, a new world order, or a new way to milk cows. That's real. But from talking to the people who've written them, most manifestos seem to come from the same simple starting point.

A person who has reached the end of their rope.

β€œThe writing of a manifesto isn't anywhere near as important for me”

as a carrying out of a manifesto. To me, a manifesto is actually an action. It's something that you decide to do to think in some new fresh way. This is Kahle Lawson, age 84, originally from Estonia. Think of him as the spiritual grumpy uncle of this project.

He wrote one of the most trouble-making manifestos of our lifetime. But he started writing manifestos period because of something that happened, something teeny tiny. teeny tiny can be all it takes to push a guy right over the edge. That was one of those moments when I just suddenly had this emotion suddenly

willing, I've been signed with me. It happens that of all places a supermarket where the whole economic order is reduced down to cans on a shelf, where you can buy two of crap you don't need for the price of one. And in this feeling of discontent that I've had in shopping at supermarkets for years and years before that, then being dissatisfied with the whole feeling of walking in there and

having the choices that they're giving me and the way that I just felt like like I was telling you that I don't want to do, but I kept on doing it. He goes to grab a shopping cart. Only it's one of those setups where you got to insert a coin to get the cart. And you only get the coin back if you return the shopping cart as if none of us can be trusted.

You know, basically they asked me to sort of use the shopping cart, put the coin in and take the coin

back and put it back to when it belonged. Then all of a sudden there was that one moment when when I sat and he said, "Fuck it! I'm not going to do it anymore!" And I'm going to stop by the people from doing it as well. So he takes a coin and he jams it into the slot so it won't come out.

β€œSo now no one's playing the stupid shopping cart game, are they?”

And it felt so cool. It felt like, like, it felt like a moment of liberation. That, that space right there, where emotion becomes action when you're inspired to just do something already. That is the stuff of manifestos. Individuals, groups, and tire swaths of society use it as the funnel to focus their erupting range. Number seven, we want an immediate end to police brutality and murder of black people.

This is activist Bobby Seale, reading the Black Panther manifesto in 1968. They called it the 10-point program. We're all black men, hell, and county, state, federal, jails, and prisons to be released because they have not had a fire trial because they've been tried by all white curries and that's just like they've tried in Germany being a dude. manifestos aren't just pretty poems. They are in a sense, a threat.

A hard-packed snowball of grievance and timing and nerve. And real impact, a sparking of real

Honest to God change, is the longest of long shots.

catches fire, it can change our world. It can rewrite our future.

But there's a hitch.

β€œIn recent years, a new kind of manifesto is crept into our lives more and more.”

These manifestos too come with fiery language and big demands. Number one, what's the address of your emergency? But they also come with a body count. As mass shootings became a recurring national nightmare, they often came with a manifesto. In 2002, with the University of Arizona, a shooter kills three and then himself,

at least a 22-page manifesto. In 2007, at Virginia Tech, 32 did, with an 1,800-word manifesto.

In 2011, in Norway, Anders Bravick kills 77. His manifesto is over 1,500 pages long.

Manifestos and violence began to become synonymous. To the point where a shooter at an El Paso Walmart just a few years ago, he seemed to feel almost obligated to release one.

β€œWriting, I figured that an under-prepared attack and a manifesto”

is better than no attack and no manifesto. I've read my fill of manifestos like these. And if you ask me, most of not really manifestos at all. The more like giant fuck use. Just a last ditch grab for attention on the shooter's way out.

It was posted on HN, which is an extremist website,

hours before the shooting, it was deleted shortly after the shooting happened. In fact, it's become the norm with news organizations. Just your clear of showing the full contents of these manifestos altogether. To not give shooters the satisfaction of the attention they so clearly want. But for a small subset of the shooter manifestos, just ignoring them doesn't quite work.

β€œBecause sometimes, the violence isn't just the end-game of a madman,”

or random bullets fired into a crowd. Sometimes, the violence is meant to have purpose. And the manifesto has a point that's not completely divorced from reality. And tonight, NBC has a manifesto, police say, that donor wrote in which he said the murders were a necessary evil. Christopher Jordan Dornner is described as a male African-American,

approximately six foot tall, 270 pounds. He's 33 years of age. Dornner is to be considered armed and extremely dangerous. After Christopher Dornner shoots that young couple in their car that evening in 2013, investigations by journalists and police reports tell us that he then drives towards the coast and checks into a hotel in Manhattan Beach. He figures out the internet and he uploads his

manifesto to Facebook. From Christopher Jordan Dornner, badge number 6748, to America, subject, last resort. I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders, and have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You're saying. The manifesto is over 11,000 words. It's about 18 pages long.

Anderson Cooper also got a copy at CNN via snail mail, along with a commemorative LAPD coin shot through with three bullet holes, presumably made by Dornner himself. I'm an American by choice. I'm a son, I'm a brother, I'm a military service member. I'm a man who is completely lost faith in the system, when the system betrayed, slandered, and libeled me. Dornner writes that he's a former LAPD officer

who is fired a few years before from his conduct. He says it was a set-up by racist cops. That soon becomes clear to investigators that the woman Dornner murdered in the car wasn't a random victim. In fact, she was the daughter of a man Dornner named checks in his manifesto, one of dozens who he blames for his firing, and who he says are next on his list. The attacks will stop when the department states the truth about my innocence publicly.

There is no negotiation. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots, and tyrants. He's quoting Thomas Jefferson there with that blood of patriots bit, aligning himself with a long line of self-proclaimed freedom fighters, willing to kill for what they believe in, and Dornner meant it. In the hour since the manifesto dropped reports come in that he may have already struck again, cornering two police officers in

their patrol car and riverside and killing one of them. Dornner says the LA cops are more racist

Today than they were during the Rodney King era.

"You are aware that I have always been the top shot, highest score, an expert in rifle

β€œqualifications in every unit I've been in, I will utilize every bit of small arms training,”

demolition, ordinance, and survival training I've been given." It was a pretty terrifying scenario, and completely open ended. By the time most violent manifestoers are found, the violence is over and done with. Dornner's whereabouts are currently unknown to law enforcement, and we were asking for the public's help in finding him. But for this one, just the beginning. We're looking for a vehicle we believe is being driven by him, a blue 2005 Nissan Titan pickup with California license plate

7x03. On day four of the manhunt, Dornner's truck is spotted in Torrance, and eight police officers open fire unloading over 100 bullets into the truck. In fact, it's the wrong make, wrong model,

wrong color, and definitely not Dornner. It's a 71-year-old Salvadorian woman and her daughter delivering

the L.A. times. The mother is shot in the back. She survives. That same morning police riddle another truck with bullets. This time it's a white guy headed to the beach for some early morning surfing.

β€œAnd that's old ladies and white guys. For black men especially, the fear of mistaken identity”

gets real big real quick. They've all of a sudden I turned around to look back and see the yellow behind the tree with the machine and that's fine. Okay, this is not good. This guy was mistaken for Dornner near San Diego. I either want to breathe. You have girls morning, you don't move, you don't breathe, you don't break, you don't ask why. You just do what you're told. All while the actual Dornner, who appear to have murdered three already, is still on the loose and armed to the health.

The general consensus though, wasn't like, "Oh, God, I hope they get this guy before he gets me." They were more concerned about the police. Jerome Hillier is a black guy and a big guy, like Dornner. So the plan is to lay low at home until it's all over. Eventually, he needs groceries, though. He's gotta go out. And so he grabs a plain gray t-shirt and a black Sharpie and how do you decide what to read? Like, what are you, are you looking at,

are you looking to make a joke or is this like, "It was, it was this plain text as possible, not Chris Dornner, please do not shoot." In big black letters, not Chris Dornner, please don't shoot. No joke about it. "I did not expect this like, I just didn't want to get shot in the back." Someone takes a pick of Jerome and is sure to check out line and it goes viral. More like it pop up around SoCal, bumper stickers too. Facebook groups, like team Dornner,

and we are all Chris Dornner begin to grow. And it becomes hard to ignore how the grievances that Dornner laid out in his manifesto were playing out for real in the hunt to find him. Now, don't get me wrong, what he did was awful killing innocent. He's just bad. But when you read his manifesto, when you read the message that he left, he wasn't entirely crazy, he had a plan and a mission here.

And opinions like these become not so difficult to come by. And many people aren't rooting for him to kill innocent people. They're rooting for somebody who was wrong to get a kind of revenge against the system. It's almost like watching Django and Chained in real life. It's kind of exciting. In a moment of traffic on the channel, we have the suspect hold us in a cabin.

We have been treating shots with them for the last 20 minutes.

After eight punishing days, the man hunt finally ends in a gunfight.

With another officer killed, and Dornner ultimately taking his own life, according to the coroner's report. There's no trial, no conviction. At a community meeting in South Los Angeles than the days after, the man reportedly stood up and told the police chief his feelings about Dornner, even after all that went down, saying,

β€œ"I don't defend what Dornner did, but like many in the community," I believe what he said.”

"I don't remember it being everyone making comments like this," or even most. Angelina was weren't in the streets acting Dornner on. But a lot of people felt that conflict, me included, of wanting him caught, of wanting no more murdered cops, but also the disbelief at how the manifesto kept proving itself. Over and over in real time. At the time, it felt like a one-off.

They were markedly unique, particularly queasy scenario. Today, it doesn't seem quite that novel anymore. On a scale from one to ten, how cold are you? Oh, I'm just gone here. Wrong. The answer on this blue skyed Friday last winter in downtown Manhattan is colder than

it has ever been on planet earth ever. But the crown that's a mast in front of the courthouse here

Is still in oddly high spirits.

right now, where it's so dark and so heavy. It's very exciting. Just the idea of people coming together,

β€œand I think that's something that we desperately need right now.”

I say oddly, because the man they're here to support, the one giving them the warm fuzzies, is accused of cold-blooded murders. He's coming out now. I don't think they're going to let him out. I think there's way too much people, way too much energy.

Luigi Mangioni is making his first court appearance in New York since his arrangement.

Since he allegedly gunned down the CEO of United Health Care outside the Hilton on 6th Avenue, and then fled. After a five-day man hunt, he was discovered in a Pennsylvania McDonald's. There's body camp footage of him eating hash browns, right before he was arrested. In his possession, cops say they found a three-page 262-word handwritten note. To the feds, I'll keep this short. What immediately became known as his manifesto.

But it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites had it coming.

β€œI remind you, the U.S. has the number one most expensive health care system in the world.”

Yet we rank roughly number 42 in life expectancy. United the words that gave meaning to what he had done, and they continued to abuse our country for immense profit. Although you could argue that the real manifesto here was even more concise. Please say they recovered shell casings of the crime scene, with the word "denai" written in marker on one, "defend" on another, "depose" on the third. It seemed to be a version of delay,

"denai" defend. Three words critics used to describe how health insurance companies dismiss legitimate claims. And that message for better or worse has inspired people. I like it. It is a t-shirt. I like your t-shirt. Kim's here selling Luigi swag to the fans who showed up. Yeah, so I have this one for the gays and the girls, and then this one for the hetero normies.

I'll take them both. The design for the gays is a collage of Luigi's own shirtless selfies, it's great for social media. I like how long it's taking pictures of armpit. It looks like he's smelling his armpit a little bit. And the t-shirt for the hetero normies, there's nothing normy about it. Oh my god, so that's just their mans here. It's obviously like a kind of a spiritual

connotation, implied in here. Because there's a halo behind it. There's a halo, his fingers, his like hands, fist shitting, his body, like just spiritual. Like an image of Luigi as a saint. That's a martyr. Our connection to the diva.

I've never felt compelled though to do something like this ever in my life.

I just got so excited seeing the response to what he brought to light. Of all the fiery speeches given about health insurance, all the angry tweets, the essays, the open letters, the op-eth, the TikToks that all went in one collective year and out the other, it was the murder that made it stick. It's everyone's story. Everyone has been impacted negatively by the healthcare industry.

Everyone has gotten to the point where they're feeling helpless and helpless and like, I don't know what else to do. I've tried every option. I've exhausted every avenue and this still sucks. At some point, when option A and option B don't work, we need to create a third option. Is the third option violent? I don't think it needs to be. And for the people in this crowd, for a lot of people,

people who aren't psychosperset, who don't seem to thrive on nihilism, for them embracing them manifesto also means doing a little logic down so long with it, to show how you're not also embracing murder outright. We don't advocate going out and shooting CEOs, but tell me what your science has here. It's this counterproductive, but not not in the criminal. In other words, he was trying to strike a blow for all these millions of

β€œpeople that are against crude. So he's not a crime from our point of view. That's what we call”

for his freedom. But we don't advocate killing CEOs, but the CEO himself is killed, killed many people. I approach a woman in the crowd with a t-shirt, pulled on over her parka that says "cougars for Luigi." Are you a cougar? Actually, my husband is three months younger than me. So you're sort of a cougar, right? She's holding up a bedsheet with a message, Luigi, before parasites spray painted in red.

Violin doesn't need it sometimes. Rich people have never moved off their butts and all the

government have never given any group anything. We just, every just ask for it. They have always given it when they have feared something. They've feared the violence. So while I'm in a good mindset, if I may not show them all of the cocktail, I understand. Yeah. Would you not throw them out of the cocktail? I don't know, I see. I'm not sure that I have the courage to

Show them all of the cocktail.

person who shows them all the cocktail. Wow, that's intense. Every one revolution somebody has to die.

Nobody wants to be in convenience, but they want to change. Everybody wants revolution, but everybody is afraid of their height and their face and their inside the camp, come out. If you're one revolution, somebody's going to get hurt. Somebody has to die. Is this just the way things are now? With manifesto's where bullets and brain matter aren't disqualifying, but rather marks of seriousness. Manifesto's to which many find themselves

and fathically saying what that guy did was wrong. But then add in a whisper, but you know,

he ain't wrong.

β€œThis year we're celebrating the 250th anniversary of the United States. Fun, right?”

Like being invited to a birthday party inside a burning building. But I invite you for a moment to peer into a different time of a more youthful country and a patriotic celebration with a name much easier to say than semi-quincentennial. The buy centennial 50 years ago in 1976. And like all celebrations in the 70s, it happened on TV variety shows. This is Doniam Marie in full costume on stage with a kick line of TV celebrities that you won't remember.

But if that's two uptempo for you. Samy Davis Jr. on Bob Hope's Buy Centennial Star Spangled Spectacular.

β€œBut the NBC stars and stripes variety show featuring Tennessee, Ernie Ford, and Ed McMan”

had them all beat. And it's not just because of the dancers and patriots, it's because of a tribute they did. A very strange tribute to a manifesto. And now as a buy centennial special, that truly phenomenal musical group, the fifth dimension, as they present their own version of the Declaration of Independence.

My first thought is talk about a big swing. You try putting wood relinquished the

right of representation in the legislature to music. But then you remember this whole thing, America, for better for worse, was built on a manifesto, a bit of political poetry laying out grievances and demanding that things changed.

β€œNow, you're probably thinking, why do you show me this great spirit?”

Why show me visions of a happier, more secure time that makes our scene even less so? Well, not every Yankee Doodle was dandy that year. And the Declaration of Independence wasn't the only manifesto being built it out. There was a new one. One that I think captures the time with a little more candor. I don't have to tell you things of bad. Everybody knows things of bad. It's a depression.

Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. This is the movie Network, also from 1976. The film centers on Howard Beale, a network news anchor gone off the rails. He's sitting at the anchor desk, breathless, and soaked from rain when he snaps on the air. The dollar buys a nickel's worth, banks are going buschopped if it's keep a gun under the counter. Punks are running wild

in the street and there's nobody anywhere seems to know what to do and there's no end to it. Instead of reading the news, he blurt's out his own manifesto. We know the air is unfit to breathe

Our food is unfit to eat.

that today we had 15 homicides and 63 violent crimes as if that's the way it's supposed to be.

β€œAnd the whole country watches it live. I don't know what to do about the depression and the”

inflation and the Russians and the crime and the street. All I know is that first you've got to get

mad. You've got to say I'm a human being. God damn it. My life has value. And then the anger in his manifesto becomes action. So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chest. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it and stick your head out and yell. I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore. I want you to get up right now. Sit up. Go to your windows. Open this. Symbolic action at first, but just the beginning.

[Music] If you were shooting a time capsule into space, to be found by an advanced alien species as a representation

β€œof 1976 in America, would you send Donnie Marie or would you send Howard Beale? How about today?”

What it really feels like to be an American. Those three inscribed bullets would definitely be on my short list. Because I mean, I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's depression. People don't have enough work. Scared of losing their jobs to AI. The dollar still only buys a nickel's worth. Banks are still going bust. School teachers keep a gun under their desk. Ice is running wild in the streets and there's nobody anywhere it seems to

know what to do and there's no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat. While some TikTok or tells us the body count in Gaza or some preschool in Michigan is if that's the way it's supposed to be. We know things are bad. They're worse than bad. They're crazy. I don't know what to do about the oligarchs and the inflation and the Russians and the ice

in the streets. All I know is that first we got to get mad. We got to say we're human beings for

fuck's sake. Our lives have value. So, I want all you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Oh, no, I'm just kidding. Can you imagine? But we got to do something. We need a vision for the future that isn't just more of this. This show is called "Dantiberski's manifesto" but you can say that title in a couple of ways. You can say "Dantiberski's manifesto" as in "Martin Square Sacy's Taxi Driver" or Michael Angela's David. I eat it's a

project called "Manifesto" hosted by me "Dantiberski." But you can also say it like, oh that's "Dantiberski's manifesto" as in, oh that's Ted Kazinski's manifesto. So which is it? I'd like to think we're splitting the

β€œdifference. This series is my 11-point manifesto on manifestos. Why I think we need them so much?”

How they've gotten twisted in the 21st century and how we might be able to inspire ourselves again to let ourselves get inspired again. Why 11 points? And not the standard 10? Well, the last point was a surprise. A place I did not expect this journey to land. But from what I've learned so far, the first point on "Dantiberski's 11-point manifesto" in "Manifesto" is this. Number one, you gotta get mad and brace it. The rage you're feeling isn't the problem. It might just be the

solution because anger can do some pretty amazing things. We're gonna take it back! We're gonna

take it back! There's something just just fucking wrong happening at Wall Street, you know those coaxnifers we just make money off money off money, yet knows you. There's no bullshit in that manifesto. It's so good isn't it? It's like holding a bomb. Oh, felt electric. Son of a year is happening. If we're angry at the people who are letting us die, fucking, you know. All people need sometimes this omission. You get tired of just being acted on by the world and this is a chance to

act on the world. That's this season on "Manifesto."

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