Summer House: Renaissance + Southern Charm Season Review!

Hello, everyone, and welcome to everything iconic with me, Danny Palagrino.

“A lot to discuss before we get into this week's episode of Summer House, which we're going to be recapping, but before we do,”

I got to say there's a lot going on in the braving universe. First and foremost, Carol Radzeville. She is a rejoining the Real Houses in New York. That's right, Carol. I never thought she'd be back. Of course, she appeared on Watch What Up and Sign, and then she was at Bravo Con, and so she was sort of folding herself back into the Bravoverse.

But I never expected, now she's going to be a friend of on the, I suppose, second or third reboot of Rooney. They are completely rebooting from the reboots that just happened a couple of seasons ago.

All lines is out, and Ubas out, and brings out the only people that are returning are Aaron, Sai, and Jessel. And then there's a few new people, and then there's Carol who's going to be a friend of now. I got to be honest with you. I never knew, celebrating the return of Carol, and I love Carol. I was always team Carol on the show. You guys know on the podcast, I was team Carol, over team Bethany, they got me a lot of heat, a lot of heat. I say it like a lot of heat, like as if it means something. But anyway, I did go a lot of messages, people were mad when I was team Carol back in the day, over team Bethany.

But my first instinct when I heard the news was like, and I hate to say this, but it was not very excited because I thought, well, she's joining that old cast.

“And unfortunately, what I think Carol needs is a foil. She needs some ridiculous people around her, and I don't think Sai, Aaron and Jessel are that ridiculous for Carol to comment on. Also, she's like wildly much older than the three of them.”

However, I didn't get excited because it seems like they hired three new people, and I'm assuming that of those three new people, there's going to be at least one or two crazies. There's one of them that I did see some stuff on social media about that seems a little nuts. And so that got me excited because Carol needs that. Unfortunately, I think what worked for Carol and her original run on the real house is New York was the fact that she was surrounded by Louis and Durinda. Ramona, all these crazies, and we all know Louis and needs a foil. The way I need someone to call around in a bullshit. And so I do wish that that kind of the way I was still around with Carol's return, because I would love to hear Carol's response to Louis and her fedoras, for instance, that's something I would love to hear Carol talk about in a professional.

But it'll be interesting to see how Carol fits in with this new group, and these new women who come on board, and I'm just hoping that some of these new women are nuts, because I need some nuts on that franchise.

And to be considered this, I would actually consider this like the third reboot, because I feel like through the last New York, they had the original run the first few seasons.

And then remember they rebooted where they got rid of everybody except for Louis and Ramona. And that's when they brought in Carol and Aviva and Heather, and that was sort of a reboot on its own.

“And then after season 13, they rebooted again, and they brought in the Aaron and Si, and Jessel and these new people, generalians who generalians never worked. I mean, what was that about you guys?”

I know everybody was excited about generalians, but then when I look back on it, I'm like, what? Anyway, then they rebooted from that reboot. This is like the third reboot, and I just hope they get it right, because the reals in New York deserve it, they do. What else is going on? I am all caught up on southern charm. I wasn't going to watch this season. I went through this journey with southern charm. I was finally going to give it up, because I've watched every season. So they're in charm back in the day. I've been delivered to the best reality v-programming of all time.

And then it started to feel very staled to me. They leaned into the man a little too hard. I liked the camera and the Chelsea's and that was when I was Naomi when they were really firing on all cylinders for me. It was like centered around those gals. And then they just started to shift to the focus and be about Austin and Craig and Chef, and I'm like, I don't know if it's enough. And so anyway, I kind of decided this season that I was not going to watch. And then some people were telling me like, hey, maybe you should check it out and maybe you should check in tune in catch up.

And so the other night, I decided to put on southern charm, but I decided to start from episode seven this season. Okay, and that's on me. So I did miss like a solid seven episodes of the season that I just did not watch. And I don't think I'm willing to go backwards and watch them. But I started with episode seven and then immediately I was hooked and I got caught up in the last few days. So now we're on episode what 13 or 14 this week. But I have so many thoughts about it. First of all, Sally and the chickens.

So Craig, I guess, told her that she should get some chickens. And then so she went over the pet's mart and was like, oh, where's the cops at? And she got a few chickens three chickens for Craig. And then not only that, but then she confessed her love for Craig before she went through the checkout. So she had gotten these chickens and they were in a box. And then she decided that was a good time to confess her love for Craig who Craig was not even interested at all.

And so you do not need to be going home with those chickens. Now maybe she already did check out. Maybe she's quite the credit card. But at that point you're at the store. You could definitely put them back. You could just say, hey, I changed my mind, even if they charge you at that point, even if they charge you, you were just humiliated in front of the the crickets that are people purchased for their snakes. When you confess your love to the sewing man, the pilloking. And so you were just humiliated on candy camera about it. So you definitely should have put those chickens back in their coop at the pet's mart because there's no way she'd been going home with them. And now I'm so invested in these chickens.

I'm just going on, she keeps saying then after that, she brought them home and then she's like, I fucking hate these chickens. I'm like obsessed with the chickens. Like she just every episode, she's like, I hate those fucking chickens. I hate the fucking chickens.

And Sally, you guys like, I got to be honest with you. When Sally was first introduced to us, I had no interest in Sally. I felt like, what are we doing with this person?

And so the insurance had a lot of flopcast members throughout the past handful of seasons where it's like, they come in and then they're gone and you're like, what happened in that person? And you kind of don't even remember them. But Sally was one that I thought for sure was going to be one of those flop ones. And then she comes in like, she's coming in and she comes in just like really looking for deck. Like with all of them. She first hooked up with Shepp, then she confessed her love to Craig and then after Craig turned her down at the pet's mart or pet shop, where the fuck they were.

Then obviously she's like, okay, well, I really want Austin now. And then they go on this cast trip.

“And she's just all over Austin stick. And I'm like, you need to find anybody else that's not mic'd up for a man.”

I mean, she's acting so desperate on camera. And I'm like, girl, you need to love yourself. I mean, what is Sally doing over there on Southern charm and the cast trip just run up to Austin? And at first I kind of thought it was a joke. Like, I thought she was being playful, but then I don't think it's a joke, you guys. It's like very weird. I don't think it's a joke. And I just don't know if she, I know Rod's in there, but she needs another gay man in her life to just say girl.

You know, that's always, that's always my solution for any gal out there who's kind of unsure of herself.

You need a gay in your life to just say girl, what the fuck are you doing? What the fuck? Because what the fuck is Sally doing? Going after Austin stick. In none of these men are anyone that any of us should go after Austin just got out of her relationship, but these men all have the Peter Pan syndrome. They're in their 40s. I don't know, Austin's probably in his 30s, but sheeps 105, and he's still got the Peter Pan syndrome because all these gals just go. These young gals go after him. And it's ridiculous. And Sally, if you're listening, please girl, look in the mirror and let yourself and do not go after any of these men.

“I don't care if it's for it to be show. He's just need anybody else. Anybody else?”

And Craig's more interested in this Charlie gal and Charlie's beautiful. And I look, I was a little confused with Charlie was because I missed those for seven episodes of the season.

But she kind of gives me like, looks wise. I think she looks like a young Ariana from Vanderb own brawl's doesn't she? They got her for a cheap rate. I was soon because she looks just like Ariana from Vanderb own brawl's, like a younger version or something. Not that Ariana looks old. You know, Ariana's beautiful. You got it. But anyway, I didn't know who this Charlie was. And then Charlie then, she, like weirdly, tiptoes around Sally. And I'm like, why are you acting this way towards Sally? Like Sally's acting fucking nuts towards you?

And then Sally doesn't want you to date Craig. And so you're lying to Sally about date and Craig. And honestly, if you're already lying to someone you consider friend, then maybe there's an issue in the relationship and she'll go for another guy because you're embarrassed to be even talking about the guy and you should be.

“I mean, anyone out there at this point, I'm sorry. We've seen enough footage on Craig that you should be embarrassed if you date Craig. I think.”

Yeah, and he's granted a gorgeous fella. And I can keep him booze a lot of us because the interesting thing about Craig Conover is that he says own warrior. And so he's like, this is very, what I mean by that is like, this is a very sweet, nice man who you think, oh, he runs a sewing company. And he does all, he checks these boxes that he thinks like an adult person should be in a way that like, shape and Austin in comparison, do not at all. But it's like you look at Craig and you see he's got a shit together. He's got a clean home, a business, a haircut. And so you're like thinking, oh, he's got it together, especially compared to like ship.

And then all of a sudden he starts drinking and he turns into his own warrior where he's just like an evil monster demon villain. And he just cannot help himself and so he's yelling at people. And in this past week's episode, I know you guys turning in for summer summer house recap, but I got to get this up my chest. So in this past week's episode, he's yelling at Sally on the springer van on their cast trip. And I think that what actually they showed was less than was less than how he was. Does that make sense? Like I think they protect him a little bit.

Two Craig, it feels like what's the reaction is almost a little oversized, because what we see Craig, he calls what Sally, like a loser on the thing. And he definitely was inappropriate and terrible to her. But I even feel like it was worse in person if that makes sense.

“It's like I feel like it was worse and they sort of protect him a little bit. But Craig, yeah, I think he thinks he's like a nice man.”

And then you see him, we've seen him on even on that one winter house spin off or there was just so many times we're like the cracks in the arm or show and he tries so hard, clearly to keep it together on camera, but then you see.

And then even hearing everybody's reaction like Venita's always hated him, but then I think a lot of them you Austin and chef the way they talk about Craig, like they're scared of him.

And even on reunions, they've sort of alluded to this, but we've seen little glimpses of it, but I think it must be really much worse in real life. And so there's too much footage and too much accounts of people saying like how horrible Craig is to people that we should start believing them, like at what point are people going to start believing that Craig's absolute demon on the show and beyond. I feel like we're all just being tricked. And yes, he's very handsome. And I've said in real life, he's I think he's way more hot in real life than on camera because the thing about this other term is that we get a little confused on camera because they're all very tall.

“And so it doesn't, I think they don't read as tall on camera as they are in real life.”

And so you see some of my Craig on camera and he looks almost not a little short, like even in the professional's hand, he's got like those two racks hands.

And so you think almost like it's Craig little, but then you see him in real life and he's like this big burly man. And so you get tricked because Austin's like 610 or 6, you know, he's Austin's under foot tall and so it's ship. And then who else you compare, I mean the man on the show, it's like obviously Craig is so handsome compared to them or Whitney, who's how old is Whitney now? And I don't know why Whitney's on this cast trip lurking around there like Jack's Skellington on a Benadrill because he's just like, he's like snoozy running around the beach and all, we're in all black.

I'm a sand and I'm like, why is he, I know he's a producer on the show, but like why is he miced up on camera?

Can he just be an off screen producer? Like there was one moment on one of the past few episodes. Don't remember what it was because I watched him all, like it was like, I needed in my fix, like it was sick. I said I was not going to watch the season of Southern German then all of a sudden at night, I'm like staying up late and I have a baby, so I should be tired at night. But it was like I was just putting on like episode after episode after episode after episode, but with Whitney, there was one moment on the beach where he just went up to one of the other cast members as they were changing like Radrigo was holding up a towel on the beach for one of the gals and I don't even know which gal it was.

But one of the women was changing and Whitney just like lurks on and like slowly walks on over and looks over the towel that Radrigo gave me and is like protecting this woman from from the straight men, gawking at her and Whitney just goes up and like lurks behind the towel and then sort of chuckles and then Austin even calls it out in this moment. I was like Whitney, what are you doing? Because he sees from across the beach like Whitney lurking at this woman's bear bubbies. And Whitney's like, oh, I just was turning my head and like, no, we actually just watched you on camera, like slowly walk up there, look at it and then eventually maybe turn around.

And it's fucking nuts because I think like Whitney's a producer on this show, so even it's shocking to me that it even made the cut that that was in the episode because he's producing these episodes.

“So it's like, that's what's in the cut, like what's happening not in the cut, you know, because I would imagine editors when they're putting together the episode would be like,”

hey, let's not make our producer of this show who's there, essentially their boss looked like such a creep and yet it was in the episode. So it's like, what's going on? And why is he even there like he doesn't even fit in with anybody? And I feel bad, like, they're, and look, I'm not trying to, I just think that there should be some sort of level of decorum with the producer on the show, because when he's on the cast trip and doing the professionals, it's like that, like, I feel like it's weird for the other cast members, they sort of have to kiss his ass because he's their boss.

And so why isn't it shouldn't it be an HR issue for these people? I mean, even taking out the fact that he's lurking around the beach, checking out their bare kaboos is like, what is going on with Whitney? Anyway, I'm loving it. I gotta be honest with you, I'm stuttering a little bit, because I'm going to say something that's very controversial, and it's going to get me in a lot of trouble, a lot of heat.

I kind of do, I never did before, I never did, and you guys know that, you know that you can go back in the archives and listen to this podcast and know that I've never once had a good thing about that man.

I'm on record, I'm on audio record, never saying a good word about that man Austin, and yet here I am this season from episode 7 and beyond.

Although I wish he would stick up a little bit for, against Craig, like he obviously hates Craig, but they're in, they're all in the hell of their own making, because, yeah, and what's going to ship, I feel like he thinks he's, I don't know, he thinks he's like a meditation expert or something like he was healed, because he went to an Ayahuasca retreat or something. I guess he's acting better than he was, like I never understood why they brought, but maybe ship isn't needed anymore. I think now that they have this guy, Whittner, says his name, Whittner, they don't need so many people that are like bridges between all these people.

So I think like Whittner works better as a bridge between Austin and Craig and the women, because Whittner seems at least from the episodes that I've seen.

“He seems very like level-headed, peaceful, knocking in the mix much, and that's what ship is right now too, and so I would just like, that's my suggestion for next seasons.”

Maybe we don't need all of these people, because they do, southern charm does have, God bless, we love Molly. But they have a lot of people like Molly and Whittner, where it's just like, what are we, you're offering like a, they're almost like an audience surrogate for us, but these shows only need one audience surrogate. And then we need a bunch of crazy fucking people, right? Like, I don't need 100 audience surrogates. And it goes back to what I was saying about Carol on the Real Estate New York. Like, Carol's, essentially an audience surrogate.

But then, if Si and Jessel and Erin are also audience surrogates, because it's not like they're nuts, they're not the fun kind of cookie.

So they're all audience surrogates. So what are we doing with a bunch of people? We're just watching paint dry, basically, if we don't have any nut balls on there.

Like, we need someone like Lou, or even in the early incarnation of the Real Estate New York, we had our dear Alex McCord. Who I just saw was on stage with Countess Luann at one of her Australian dates of her cabaret show, which I can't even believe to, I'm saying that she's international with her cabaret performances. Like, what is going on that Louanne is in Australia now? But she brought Alex McCord on stage and Alex McCord also, what did she just appear in? Oh, she's going to be in that, um, they're doing that upcoming season of Real Estate's Ultimate Curals trip, and Alex is going to make an appearance on that. So she goes over to a,

Durinda's house, blue stone manor. I wonder what the other Roney women. I think I saw Durinda commented on Carol returning to Roney on her radio show, but I would like, eyes and ears on everybody else too. Like, do you think Sonya even remembers filming anything with Carol? Like, I don't know. I sort of in my head think that like, Sonya does not even remember. Like, if you were to go up to Sonya and say,

“like, hey, what do you think of Carol joining the cast of Roney again? She'd be like, who's Carol? Like, that's what I feel like Sonya would say.”

Also, it's only matter of time. I hate to speak this into existence, but it's only matter of time until, you know who speaks up about this news about Carol returning to Roney. You know what I'm talking about? It's frinkle. That's right. Only matter of time before I hop on to TikTok and get assaulted by a one minute long video of Bethany Franco talking about Carol, rejoining Roney. You know, she's pissed. She's probably fuming at the mouth to talk about it. She's probably talking to one of her gals right now and saying,

Hey, should I comment on this? Does it make me look worse or better? Actually, I don't know if she cares if she looks worse or better. She's always posting everything on that on that app.

Okay, so what are we yet? Let's take a break here and we're going to come back and talk about some of our house, but if you have a watch other in drum.

“Oh, and also southern hospitality is back this week and I did get a chance to see the premiere as of this recording, and I think the episode's out yet. It comes out this week.”

But the first episode of southern hospitality is so great and I love the last season southern hospitality. And I'm not someone who liked the first season. You know, I didn't care for it. I thought it was flopped, but then it got good. And so if you to me, it gives that early Vanderpump vibe that the new Vanderpump is not giving quite frankly and maybe it will next season of Vanderpump rules, but the current season of Vanderpump rules is not doing it for me. But southern hospitality like has that vibe to me and they have some crazies on there that are fun to watch and it's good. So if you have it might be a good time to get on board, but watch last season southern hospitality because like some of the craziest stuff that happened at the reunion is like still in play on southern hospitality.

And so you need to get back on board. Okay, let's take a break. I want to thank a cast and we'll be right back with Summer House recap.

That's right. I'm going to be on watch what happens live. I'm a guest with Kyle Cook DJ Kyle Cook and I will be asking questions. I hope we get into the bottom of things. And I will do my best to get questions answered for the people. I'll do everything I can but I'm super excited. I love going on watch what happens live and they ask me, you know, so thrilled. And so tune in to watch what happens live. Set the DVRs or the T-Vos, whatever the youths are doing these days. Check it out on the peacock the next day.

But it'll be the episode we're doing in a live episode after the episode of Summer House next week. And then I'm going to still try to do the Summer House recap for everything I can. So it's a state turn of the podcast feed, but hopefully I'll be able to do that before I head to New York for the episode of Watch What happens live again next week. What is that the 10th? I think it's the 10th. Yeah. March 10th. After Summer House, watch what happens live. Me, Kyle Cook and Andy Cohen. Very excited. Okay, so then Summer House episode 5 this episode is called Summer Nights.

And I've been sort of dreading this episode to be honest with you because before we even saw any footage from this season of Summer House, there was a teaser of Summer House that was released where it was just the jousting of West and Jesse.

And that was sort of like, you know, a bravo does that sometimes or it's like a 10 second teaser.

And they released it and I remember seeing it and just thinking, ah, this looks bad, but then ultimately it's been a good season so far.

“But this episode, now look, this episode wasn't super thrilling, but I'm loving this season. And, but I was nervous to get into this episode because I remember that teaser where they were just dressed.”

And I'm not someone who, you guys know this, I don't love a theme party myself and real life. And I'm finding myself to be a little tired of theme parties on Summer House. And that's just my truth. And I know that's what the show is. Essentially at this point. I mean, we're watching every single week a new theme party.

And so we've had every theme in the book. I mean, some of them have worked. Like I always loved that pajama party one that I think was last season. I thought that was a great theme party.

But then some of them have flopped. And like this was a Renaissance fair thing, but they're all getting ready. And the whole thing about Sierra and Jesse sort of coming to head this week. So Sierra doesn't realize that she's sort of playing in, like she doesn't realize that Jesse's been having these conversations quite yet. At the start of this episode that Jesse went up to Watt and was like, "Hey, do you mind if I kiss Sierra if we get drunk and maybe accidentally kiss?" And would you be okay with that West? And remember West was like, "Absolutely not." Like, but he didn't say that directly to Jesse, just said to the other people.

But so this is all happening. And Sierra doesn't know, so every time Sierra sees Jesse, like at the start of this episode, they were standing in front of the mirror.

“She's like, imagine these are engagement fedas. She's kind of, Sierra's kind of got a little bit of an accent. Are engagement fedas fedas?”

And she said, "A fedas or something?" She said, "This could be our engagement photos." Sierra, would you like it if I sang to you a song and these were our engagement photos?

Yeah, my impression of Jesse is basically just EOR from Winnie the Pooh. That's how I imagine it.

Anyway, we open this week's Saturday July 19th. And it's 115 pm. Everybody's getting ready for this run of Sans Fair. Amanda is dressed as a goat. I could confuse sometimes with the theme parties, are the, I think sometimes they have like glam, but they hide it from the cameras, because they don't want it to seem like they're getting their glam done on summer house. And my theory on this, and this is a conspiracy theory. So I don't know this to be true, but my theory is like, in the basement, which they used to film in the basement, remember, and now the basement's off limits.

They used to have people stay in the basement, didn't they? Remember Hannah and Paige were in the basement? And I feel like they're not in the basement.

“So I would just like to us all to remember that there's like a whole other part of this house that we're not seeing on a candid camera. And so I think that I think that there's make up here and make up people in the basement.”

And so when Amanda, we see her with that goat dick on our face, and it looks like pretty heavy prosthetics. Like it looks like Robin Williams and Mrs. Doubtfire or Jim Carrey in the mask. Or did you guys see there was this conspiracy theory about Jim Carrey that like, it wasn't him. Somebody dressed up as him for this award show thing. And then Jim Carrey had to like put out a statement saying, "No, that was actually me." Like what if I could nightmare that would be, to be Jim Carrey and everybody thinks you're like a clone or something.

And it's like really he just maybe had some work done on his face or something. And then he shows up and people think he's clone. Like that's my worst nightmare. And the thing that I don't like now about social media and we're all guilty of it, I think, or a lot of us are guilty of it. But it's like, people go, we'll go on when I go on TikTok or Instagram reels or whatever.

And so it is horrifying and then the new spread. So like you see a TikTok where it's like, this is what this person had done. And it'll be someone who claimed to be a doctor or not even that.

Sometimes it's not even a person who's a doctor. But they'll be like, here's what they had done. They had the bluff. They had the cheek removal. They had the lips done.

They had the nose. So go through all of these things. And I'm thinking like, well, are you just guessing based off a picture? Because sometimes in pictures like sometimes they get filtered. Sometimes they get, but the AI filter over it. Sometimes they just look bad. Sometimes you're puffy. Like sometimes I don't know. When you get older, I think there's some pictures all look at myself a bit like, oh, look at how puffy my face looks. And then other times like, oh, look how snatched my face looks. And I just think it'd be, it's weird now that some people go on these social media things and say, oh, I know exactly what they had done.

And then even with the gym carry news, I was like, seeing so many accounts be like, this is what happened with gym carry. Like it's a fake thing. Or it's prosthetic. Someone in prosthetics or then people are saying, no, he did a facelift or he did filler or that. And I was like, maybe he was just like really puffy and depressed. And so I don't know who knows. But a lot of people act like they know. And I think that's we're in a dangerous time. I mean, for more than one reasons. But anyway, man, I had the goat deck on me.

Back to man is goat dick face. Sierra was dressed as a rat, which made me laugh, a playground. In my son lucky, he's got his, like, well, we call the loveie. It's like a little, a plush blanket sort of thing that he cuddles with. And we have all these different ones. And he loves this one that I call his rat, loveie. But it's, I think it's a, it's supposed to be a mouse, but I call it his rat, loveie.

But he, like, that's the one he's always grabbing. This is like rat, loveie. And I hate rats. But he, you know, anyways, so Sierra dresses a rat, maybe think of my son, which was nice.

She sort of looked like splinter from Ninja Turtles. She didn't she. And I was an instrumental kid. Another back now. But I, if I can love the Ninja Turtles, I did. My mom still has my little Ninja Turtles action figures at home.

“And you need to have her send them. But those probably also have lead in them. So I probably can't give them my send anyway.”

Moving on, Lindsay and Wes, Lindsay's there. Woo. Yeah, mercy. I'm so excited to see her at this. And she's, she's getting in the mix because she knows she's got to get in the mix. Because she even said at the end of that, so she's not going to be there at the party next week. And so Lindsay's got to stir up trouble. So she's talking to West about the Jesse and Sierra situation.

West to things Sierra would laugh and Jesse's face if Jesse went up turn was like, hey, would you like to make out with me? Maybe we could make out and we could do it as a joke or we can do it for fun or you know, I'm just looking to settle down and be in a relationship and I'm sing to my girl and I wrote a song about it. And so West thinks Sierra would laugh and it's face and I get to him. And Lindsay's like talking to West about it and she's like, I think it's my place to say something.

“And that's what I appreciate. That's why Lindsay's a star. And that's why they need to give her a raise. And I think they should,”

I don't know, give her a cut of all the profits for Bravo at this point because I think Lindsay offers a lot to the network. And I'm just glad they respect her enough. I think there was a time where I was very worried about Lindsay's future on the network because she was having the baby and I just thought they're going to get rid of her. And I'm so glad they didn't cut bless. And so they did, you know, sometimes they do things that are right and that was right. Okay, Carl got corn on the cob and turkey legs and I'm a magician for this party because he's the one plan in this party.

And the corn on the cob and the turkey legs was definitely a choice. I don't know if I was shuffled in for this party. I'm not sure that I would go for the corn in the cob or the turkey leg and I love a turkey leg.

I mean, you pointed me to the opening of Disneyland and I'm going for a turkey leg in a corn dog. Actually, my first stop at Disneyland every time I've ever gone.

It's right for that corn dog, which is at the opening of the park. You guys know what I'm talking about? There's a little stand right when you get in the park that's got the corn dog. And it's like, that's my first, like, I can't enjoy my day at the park until I've had that corn dog. And then later on in the day, that's when you get the turkey leg. But the turkey leg's not, I suppose I can go to Disneyland and knock at the turkey leg. I have to go and get the corn dog though. Like, I'm not interested in going there.

In look, what do the Beverly Hills house, I say, a once choice area, a good hot dog.

“That's how I feel about a corn dog. It's like, whenever one's choice a year, if I go to Disneyland, which I haven't been in a few years.”

But if I go there, I got to get the corn on the cob. Like, it's, or I got to get the corn dog. What do I say, corn on the cob? To just remember, there used to be this chain that was in the mall. There was like a Randall Park mall in Northeastern Ohio, and it had a chain of the hot Sam pretzels.

I think it was nationwide, but it was called hot Sam pretzel, and they would do soft pretzels.

But they weren't as sweet as the anti-ans ones or the wetsel pretzel ones. I even feel like wetsel pretzel. There's like a little too much sweetness in them. But hot Sam used to just be like a good soft pretzel, and you could get it on a stick, and they would dip the whole thing in the natural cheese sauce. And then give it to you on like a little, um, like parchment paper or something. And so it would be covered in cheese. It was like my favorite thing, and I dream about that pretzel.

Like I swear to you guys, like I, I feel like I think about it more than, I don't know, my disease grandparents. Like I think about that hot Sam pretzel covered in the natural cheese, at least once a week. And I think they went on a business, but it would be hoves somebody to just come out with that again. Like I don't know, when do you love if you go to the wetsel pretzel, and they would dip the whole thing in the cheese sauce?

I'm sure it's not healthy for you, but like who the fuck cares?

Like the world's on fire outside, so maybe we just need the soft pretzel dipped in some natural cheese. You know, Amanda speaking of eating. Amanda's eating the grass as a goat. Woo! And Kyle's like turned on. This was actually very troubling to me. Kyle was like turned on by Amanda when she was on all fours on the grass, eating the grass. And he's like, oh, it reminds me of when we got together as like, oh, she's having fun.

It reminds me when we got together, and it's like actually this, I can like go into psychology mode and really analyze how Kyle was just turned on by Amanda because she was acting as an animal for him.

“And so I think that's what, you know, like that's what's so fucked up about it.”

But he was so turned on by her just walking through the grass, and I'm thinking, Amanda, like you got to lift your head up and not be on all fours on the grass. Because as I say, every episode of this podcast, Kyle's pissing all over that, somewhere else long. We've seen him time and time again pissing all over, and actually that's my number one question for Kyle when I go to watch her dip inside. Is I don't know if I get the chance, but I do want to ask. So he has told us on candy camera that he has to do the DJing for his career, because it's got to help lover boy and it's whatever he needs the money.

For lover boy, because he's had to take money out of or whatever. And I don't understand why he should have done only fans, like those cousins on Vienna from Bruels. Like, I think Kyle, Bravo is profiting off his bare kaboos, because on the summer house, they show him naked all the time. And so, I think like a better use of his time and energy and a better making the money would have been only fans instead of doing the DJ that his wife was saying, "Please, the one thing I'm asking you not to do is go out and drink till the hours of the morning."

And so Kyle could have been in that apartment just showing a little kaboos for the fans and only fans. And I think that would have been a smart use of his time, so I do want to ask that. And I say, "Why didn't you do only fans? Why? Why?"

“But Amanda needs to know that Kyle and the gentleman piss everywhere in that grass, so you should not be eating that.”

I don't care how much fertilizers on there. You need to get your ass up and not eat it. But Ben is interested in this dara at first dara. Dara says that West is the best guy in Earth, because she used to date West, and so that's how she got in this group. And she's like, "West is the best guy in Earth unless you're falling in love with him." And I guess she says he couldn't seal the deal or something.

Now KJ, what's interesting is KJ doesn't even remember meeting dara. So they have to show flashback, and in the flashback it looked like KJ was sort of ignoring dara. But I think as we've learned about KJ is he's got a lot of anxiety and stuff.

And I feel like KJ's just always in his head, and so I get him a pass for that, I do.

But didn't remember eating, and he's now smitten by dara. And it seems like they're going to have a little love affair. And they keep trying to add Ben into these love affairs and these love triangles. But I don't feel like Ben is actually interested in any of these people. You know what I'm saying? Like he's interested in being on television.

Then we cut to Lindsay telling the girls about Jesse. And Sierra is just sitting in that rat outfit, and she says the only person who gives someone a permission to kiss me is me. And she's even says in the confessional she's mad that West said he doesn't care. But I would hope that Sierra is watching this season in realings like West does care. He was just sort of thrown off by Jesse saying that. Do you know what I'm saying?

And then this is when Amanda channels will afford and says, "Fuck the men, let's drink to us." Which a lot of the gay men out there know that this was actually sort of the lyrics of a Willow Ford song. Remember, "Fuck the men, let's toast to us."

“There's a song, I think that's the actual name of the song.”

And Willow Ford's back, baby. It's got a new album this week. But, yes, so Amanda was a channeling our 2000s Queen Willow Ford. And I appreciate that. Now Amanda tells Bailey to flirt with someone because Bailey is saying she's a terrible flirt.

And I'm rooting for Bailey. I do love Mason Bailey now. And Amanda's like, "Look, you need to learn how to flirt."

Or maybe the magician.

And she says, "The magician's 75." She says, "I'm not going to go flirt with the magician."

And you know what? For once, Bailey, I was siding with her, and she was right on that. Because the magician, I don't know that anyone should flirt with the magician in general. I don't know. Something about obviously I just don't trust magicians. Because they're whole sort of, they're whole sort of thing is lying, right? Like they made a career out of tricking people.

And so I think you need to date anyone else besides the magician. And you just don't know when they're going to disappear. Imagine dating Chris Angel and he's like, "Working on one of those tricks where he disappears." Or some shit like that. I don't know exactly what he does. But what if they disappear and then you're like, "Where the fuck do they go?"

Like you're trying to get ready to go out to dinner. And so you're ready to go to the chillies and you're looking for your man. And you're looking around the house and you're like, "Where the fuck are they?" And they're working on their disappearing act.

And so you can't even find them because they're doing some trick on you.

That they're practicing at the house. So then you're effect. And you're just trying to go get a triple dipper. And meanwhile, you can't find your mate because they're working on their disappearing act.

“And so that's why ladies and gentlemen, you should not date a magician.”

Any other profession? I don't trust them. You mean to tell me you trust a magician? I do not. Even that 75-year-old man, or that older gentleman who's at the Renaissance fair, I'm sure he was a nice man, but you do not need a date a magician. So instead Bailey goes to flirt with West and it's very awkward.

She says she's like, "How's the popcorn? Does my popcorn taste good?" And West is like, "Is that supposed to be an innuendo?" She's like Jennifer Lawrence in 2016 interview. Like she's just, "And I love that about her." Something makes you feel safe about it.

Remember when Jennifer Lawrence was like, "I don't even think it was Jennifer Lawrence's fault." But like every interview she was like really leaning into that quirky thing and the Oscars she like fell. And so the whole media narrative around Jennifer Lawrence was just so like, they were making her seem like just sort of like a bumbling quirky whatever. And that's what they're making, it seemed like with Bailey.

But I love both Bailey and Jennifer Lawrence. And I kind of missed that energy, you know what I'm saying? From Jennifer Lawrence, I mean, it's really some getting it from Bailey. And I think Jennifer Lawrence she got like a bad rap about all that. Because again, I don't even know if it was really her fault.

I think it was like more like the way she was presented in media was just like as this bumbling sort of quirky, I don't know. It was like they weren't letting her be serious. Did you know what I'm saying? So then Jesse, there was one moment where Jesse is like, "Who needs shots?"

And he sort of sounded like, "Who's that guy from Goonies?"

“"Hey, you guys, you know that's what it sounded like to me when Jesse was saying. Who needs shots?"”

"Who you guys?" And then we do this like medieval times justing. And they had these floppy swords Carl made a funny anise, said they need Cialas for these swords which are me laughing. Carl's doing stint.

Then Jesse, Jesse and West kiss. And then West is like, "He didn't ask for a permission." And then it made Cialas run inside and she started. It was like she was crying, but I think this was editing. Today we'll just feel like this felt like tricky editing.

Because she ran inside and they made it seem like that made her cry. But I think it was something else. That's my take. Go back and watch it. It looked like the kiss between West and Jesse was happening in like a different area than where Cialas.

And I was like, "Oh, this seems like tricky reality TV editing." Meanwhile, Kijan and Dara, they trade earrings. Ciala inside, she's upset, she says everyone wants to experience her. And she doesn't want the sheet. And she, I don't know, she's, yeah, I don't even know what I run.

I might not turn. You know, sometimes I read these notes. And I'm like, "Why did I even write that?" My next line just says Craig and Sally at Petsmart, which we already talked about.

I'm like, "Why is that in the middle of my summer house notes?" Anyway, Dara and Ben sort of flirted by the guillotine in the hay.

Which is a sentence they never thought I had to say.

Let's take a break here and we're going to come back. We have so much more to say. I still got a page now. So buckle up, buttercup. We'll be right back.

(upbeat music) And we're back. Stupid looking hat. All right, summer house. So by the end of the party,

Mia has to send everyone home on the microphone. And so we are when they kick everyone out like this. Because again, I just remind us that this is now what happens at a real house party. You do not just say, "I'd like four o'clock. Everybody's got to go."

“But that's what we do in a production for a house party.”

Then it's the evening time, Dara. Oh, by the way, though, Mia, she's very comfortable

And so I have high hopes for Mia. I know we just met her. I'm hoping she gets in the mix and in the drama and stuff. But as it stands, at least she feels confident. And she's like not afraid to tell people to go home.

She's not afraid to make a toast. And so that's someone who's like getting in the mix as much as they can right now. And I think it's only a matter of time before she has some drama with the group. But in the evening time, Dara says, "Wait. Also, I'm sorry to go backwards."

But we have Mia. We have Dara who got a lot of screen time this week. And Bailey, of course, too. But they're sort of editing out the other one, Levi.

“And I think what's going on with Levi, where even was she this week?”

Did anyone even say, like, "I feel like they cut her." And they're like, "Let's save some money." "Saving." Cut her midway through the season like we don't have to pay her episode right. And so...

...brother didn't want to loosen up the purse strings. If Levi's not bringing anything to the table. And so it looks like she's maybe back next week. But I don't know, there's something weird. It's like Levi's missing.

She's put her on the milk cart because I don't know where Levi's been. She's just flopped and she's out. Anyway, Bailey feels insecure about Dara, because Dara's.

She's basically a star in this episode.

She's doing a lot of heavy lifting on the episode. She says she reads and goes to the movies alone. She tells, "I think KJ that, which I appreciate it. That made me love Dara." Because I think it's important to both read and go to the movies alone.

I know a lot of people feel it. It's weird to go to the movies alone. I think it's actually the best to go alone. Because you need your hot dog and piece. If you, the thing with the movie theater is if you feel like,

if you're there alone and you're not liking the movie, you can leave and go to another showing. You could just go to something else, walk in another one if you're alone. But when you're with someone else, especially if they're not a super close friend, then you feel like you got to sit through the whole movie.

But it's like if I don't want to sit through the rest of the thing, what did I just watch? I watched half of it. It was a song sung blue. And I was laughing because I watched the first half of it, you guys.

And I thought it was great. I thought it was fantastic. Kate Hudson's nominee for Oscar for it. That was so good. But not since Hugh Jackman's other film The Greatest Showman,

have I watched half the movie and then felt like

I never needed to watch the second half.

And yet I loved the first half so much.

“Like that's how I felt about songs sung blue.”

Like I watched half of it. And I thought it was great. And I was enthralled and riveted the whole time I was watching. But then I, and when I was falling asleep, we're going to bed or something.

And I haven't had the urge to put on the second half. And the same thing happened with Greatest Showman. I've only seen the first half and I loved it. Loved it. And I listened to soundtrack of The Greatest Showman, even.

I had taught my Spotify. I listened to this as me every chance I could. This says me. I'm not brave. I'm not bruised.

I'm not. This is me. You know that song. Do you know what I'm talking to? So I love that song.

But I have no urge to watch the second half.

What is that about? Anyway, sung sung blue. So anyway, if I think if you go to the movies and you're going to see something like sung sung blue and you watch the first half and you're like this is great.

But I don't need the second half. You can go walk over in another theater.

“And so that's why I think it's good to go alone.”

And I'm happy. I'm happy that Dar and KJ are kind of flirting. And we'll see what happens. Then we cut to Sunday morning. There's chicken legs everywhere.

There are turkey legs or whatever, which is gross. Going to the backyard and just seeing a bunch of old turkey legs. That would send me, I would kind of handle that. I would just, I wouldn't be able to handle that. Now, Jesse asks, "Seera, her plans for the week."

What are you doing this week? Are you doing anything fun this week? And she's like, "I got to clean the apartment and I'm having furniture delivered." And I wrote my notes like, "That's why Seera's not on the spin-off."

(laughs) Those were her big plans for the week. I got blessed. I understand. I'm nothing's wrong with that.

But when Jesse asks Seera her plans for the whole week in New York, and she said furniture being delivered and cleaning the apartment, which I know she's on the show. She's not a very clean person. We've seen her room in there.

So I'm thinking like, "What? She's probably not doing a big deep clean." And unfortunately, I thought that's probably, there's our answer as to why she's not on that spin-off. That's a forthcoming in the city.

Meanwhile, back in the city, Western Kyle, we go off and indoors, Lindsay's baby prison the house, which we just, and we've been doing now. We're waiting for the gate to be delivered for the stairs, because my son is climbing the stairs now.

Which is, you know, he just wants to climb the whole stairs, and he's not even walking yet. He's going to be nine months old this week. And he's climbing up the stairs and like, stop it, just sit tight. We don't have the gate up yet.

But you've got to get all this stuff for baby prison. It's exhausting. You've got to put that in the outlet covers. And even so, it still finds a way. It's crawling everywhere and trying to find a way

to get in everything that's exhausting.

He likes her. He's still wearing her earrings. They switch earrings at the party. And Dara says she doesn't like Ben. And KJ's like, "Well, everybody likes Ben."

And KJ says he's a male model. He's very mature. And Dara's like, "Aren't you a male model?" And I thought, "Dara, clocked him." She knocked his ass.

She, you know what Dara basically did was call out the editors.

"Cott, got you." That's what Dara said. Because they've been positioning KJ as a model.

“And he might remember that in the early recaps of summer house this season.”

I said that they're using that term too fast and loosen these shows now. They're calling everybody a male model. And I think that they told KJ who was a male model. Like he did one sort of catalog or something. Or took a picture on Instagram once that he looked great.

And he saw gorgeous handsome fella. But I don't even think KJ thinks of himself as a male model. And the proof is in the pudding here because he says that Ben's a male model. He's mature. And that's when Dara's like, "Aren't you a male model?"

And I thought, "Cott, got you." Bravo editors. Because they, she's calling out. She's saying, "Yeah, you're not a male model." She's saying that without saying that.

Meanwhile, over at soft bar. Which seems nice.

Again, I, I, I talked so much shit about soft bar.

I said it's definitely going to fail and flop. And then here I'm seeing things better in real time and it looks like a nice place. But it's a 10,000 a month, please. Carl's opening at the end of summer. Ben arrives five weeks away from opening.

Apparently Jesse invested in the soft bar. There's influencers invested at athletes, but not Kyle. Kyle said, "I got to save that money." "Saving." He said, "I'm not investing that shit."

But Carl invested 15K in lover boy. Because he said he believed in it. And he hoped that Kyle would. Now, I don't think that anyone actually, if I was on the cast with these people,

I don't think any of them should invest in any of their businesses. Because as we've seen time and time again, reality started businesses close quite often than most. More often than most. Because even a regular bar restaurant is going to close.

Because it's hard to run a bar restaurant.

And so I certainly wouldn't put my trust in a reality TV personality

to open a bar restaurant. I mean, look at what happened over there on them. Schwartz and Sandy's hate to say that term. But remember, they were serving the lobster corn dogs. And they were in a station next to a pet's mart. And then they closed a couple of years after they opened.

And so they were fucked. And so I think it was actually smart. I'm going to give Kyle the credit. Carl's pissed about it.

“But I think it was smart for Kyle not to invest in soft bar.”

Because he's also going to pay his bills over at lover boy. And even though when he really think about it, Kyle probably makes, I don't know, 10 times. Kyle probably at DJ night. They probably pay him, I'd say.

I don't know. I don't want to guess. I'd say like 20 grand. They probably pay him 20 grand for a DJ gig. 10 to 20 grand, I guess.

And let me think about that. Yeah. The social media posts. I think everybody would be shocked what these people make on a social media post. I don't think the guy's make as much influencing.

But for a DJ night, I bet you he makes. That's probably like one DJ night. If he invested 10 or 15 k in Carl's soft bar. I don't know. I bet he'll offer to DJ Carl's.

Carl's bar and doesn't Carl's bar have like a little DJ center. As he was given us a tour. I was like, he said something about like, oh, a DJ could go there. Anyway, then the weekend. KJ tells the guys about his date with Dara.

He says they kissed after the Tyler, the creator concert. He made dinner with her. And did he say they slept over? I don't know. He enjoys time with them.

It seems happy about it. Oh, then we cut to Bailey and Levi. I guess Levi wasn't this episode. You know what's even worse than Levi disappearing for episodes. It's the fact that she did appear in this episode.

And I totally forgot. Like that's not a good sign, Levi. You better step it up. Sorry to say, but you better do some. You better say some, you better do some.

Because otherwise you're not popping on camera. And we need you to pop on camera. Like that's the whole name of the game. Levi, I don't even know how you got cast on the show. If you're not popping on camera.

So I don't know. Maybe this is on the Bravo Cast in team. But she's not popping on camera. And so did we not do any test footage with Levi? Like why is she?

I mean, got blessed, but she's not popping. All the rest are popping on camera for me. Ben, Dara, Mia, Bailey. They're all popping on camera. You're bringing all these new people.

And Levi's not popping on camera.

“So you need to pop her ass out of the summer house.”

Sorry, we can't have all this extra dead weight. And I would love to give you more time. I would love to be someone who's patient. I've to give you more time to step into your own. But I'm not feeling that way this week.

I'm just not. And if so Bailey can pop on camera. Then you bet your bottom dollar that you should be popping on camera too. So anyway, then I love. I do love my Bailey.

They had this idea. Bailey says she was sort of almost losing me. Because she had this idea for a prank.

Obviously, these two did not watch that season of the reals in New York reboot.

When it was all about pranks. But they lie. And you know how when you say a word. Like, I just did.

“You know, you say a kind of weird because you're just talking really fast.”

Does that happen? It happens to you. You know, when you're in conversation, someone. And they all of a sudden have like a weird random accent. Because they're just talking.

And the word comes out funny. It happened to me the other day when I was reading to my son. Which, which made me laugh. It was like, I just came out weird. I don't know what we were reading.

Something. Are we reading? There's a book called The Rabbit Listen. I think that's what we were reading.

The Rabbit Listen, which I love.

Okay, so then Bailey and Levi. Bailey has, they're doing the prank for TV. And where they dress up as a shrub. And they scare a man and Kyle. You can call.

Anyway, Sierra falls exiting the car because it's raining out. And the prank worked. And I'm worried that's going to make him want to do more. And so Bailey and Levi, if you're listening, please do not hit the pranks.

We don't like watching them on TV. They might be fun in person. But we don't want them. It's Amanda's birthday weekend. Jesse invites Sierra for a chat before dinner.

And again, it's raining. And there was a cute moment where West and Ben were outside in the storm. And it was like really nice. And I love the rain. I think it's super relaxing.

And West said, this is what life's all about, really. And then, oh, or Ben said that, I think. And then West said to Ben, you're a big storm guy. And Ben's like, yeah. And maybe they should be in the Twister reboot to them.

What's going on with the Twister reboot? Remember there was that movie with Glenn Powell. There was Twisters. I liked it. It was like kind of bad.

I've never watched it again since it came out.

But I wanted more. I did a lot more. I did a lot more. Other, I remember seeing it. And there was that one role, like the main lead girl, the woman.

She was, I think it's supposed to be Helen Hunt's daughter. And then Helen Hunt, they probably, I don't think they won the pair.

“And I think that's what happened because Helen Hunt should have been in it.”

And so it was very clear to me that it was written as like Helen Hunt and her daughter. But then they wouldn't loosen up the purse strings for Helen Hunt. And so they had to hire more attorney. And so, more attorney. Why does it when you say more attorney?

It sounds like I'm saying more attorneys. Doesn't it? We're going to wrap this up because my brain's turned into mush, you guys. But anyway, Jesse, what did Jesse, I wrote my nose. Something dumb, Jesse said, let's see.

Jesse and Sarah, they go and talk. Sierra says that Jesse's just thinking of a sexual conquest. But he says, I wasn't making the joke. I just feel like we have an attraction. We're all so like friends, and I don't know what I'm looking for.

I'd say, Jesse, don't be a dumb shit. He's being a dumb shit this season. Sarah says she loves him as a friend, but she's upset. Because she says she expresses her traditional values. And he's just picturing it as a joke.

And she says he should have asked permission to take her on a date. And Sarah is like, do you see where I'm coming from? And he's like, mm-hmm. And Jesse says he doesn't want her to feel like an object. But Sierra says it's 25% Jesse's fault that she feels his way.

And 75% her fault. Because in her head, she feels like everybody just wants to hook up with her. And she feels like a piece of meat. And look, I actually, I understand this about Sierra. I do find that it's maybe difficult for most of us to relate to.

It's just like everybody just wants to, like, I it's hard to relate to that idea that like everybody just wants to fuck you. Like, it almost saying it, like, but I understand, I do understand where Sierra is coming from. I'm just saying it is a little bit difficult for a lot of us to relate to the fact that just like, oh, everybody just wants to have sex with you.

“And so I think there is a portion of the audience.”

It's going to be like, oh, I can't feel bad for you. Like, sorry that everybody wants to have sex with you. But I get that Sierra is also saying it in the confines of the TV show. Like, everybody that comes on this show and all the men who come on this show, it's like, they just want to, they want her.

And she keeps saying, like, I'm a traditional person. Like, I just want a day and like have traditional relationship, but everyone's looking at her like a piece of meat. And so I think there's like that added layer. I don't think she's just saying like in real life.

I mean, she's saying, because when you're just talking about real life, it feels almost a little unrelatable, but when you think about it, and the confines of the show, it's like every man that's coming on this show is just like, once this thing ever has piece of meat, and she keeps time and time again, turning these men kind of down,

because they're not coming up to her as like a romantic partner. They're coming up to her as a piece of meat. So I get it. But anyway, that's the end of that episode, you guys. Thank you so much for listening.

There's no traders this week. Do you have no traders? They me! So there's not going to be a traders recap, because we're done. We're done.

But I had fun. I'm glad we got to dive into Southern Trim a little bit this week,

and I'm sure this week, too.

I'm going to have more thoughts. You know, and Madison at her baby, too, do we talk about that? Madison at the baby, which was excited about happy for her. And so yeah, Southern Trim, if you haven't watched,

and Southern Haspedale, do you guys tune in? Watch Southern Haspedale, do you guys, it's a good fucking show. And you know, I don't say that about all the shows. I'm happy to call them out if I think they're flopping,

but with Southern Haspedale, I do not think it's flopping.

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