Slowing Down to Embrace God

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Wherever you are, get yourself out in nature and see how God does work through rhythms, through seasons, through, you know, get yourself out and watch a sunrise or a sunset. It just has a way of unhurting your heart. That's generally for dukes Lee, sharing about the need to slow down to experience all that God intends for us in this life.

This is focusontheffamily with Jim Daley and I'm John Phones. Sorry about that. This is so funny. It's so true.

We moved so fast and then even slowing down to talk so people can understand us and hear

us as part of it, right?

“This is such an important aspect of life and I think in this common era, we're moving so”

fast. We've got that FOMO, you know, FOMO, fear of missing out, we've got to do it all, we've got to be as busy as possible, we don't want to miss a thing. Maybe even attached to our work methodology, you know, we're going to work super hard and not go home at five o'clock, but stay until eight and whatever it is.

And that really impacts our well-being and our soundness emotionally spiritually, I think even physically. And today we're going to give you some insights on how to go a little slower and in doing that, probably enjoy the journey far more. Yeah, and this is something that I need to hear Jim, just personally I feel in so much.

Jennifer Dukes Lee is with us, as I said, she's got a terrific book, capturing her experiences and insights about this concept, it's called growing slow, lessons on unhuring your heart from an accidental farm girl and you can learn more about Jennifer and this terrific resource at our website, we've got the link in the show notes. Jennifer, welcome to Focus on the Family.

Thanks for having me. You guys have been a part of my life since the early 80s. Oh, wow. And you don't even know it. Yeah.

A little church in Northwest Iowa, and we played these videos. There was like a video series with James Dobson.

“Yeah, I don't remember the content, but I just remember that was my first introduction.”

Introduction? Yeah. And now I get to be here. It's even for us, you know, the platform that was laid there, Dr. Dobson, did such a good job.

People responded so powerfully to the advice that the guests would have, and we've just kept that rolling along. That's great to have a great guest like you, like back in the 80s, to join us and to help people better understand what are the important things to look at when you're moving through this life at light speed, right?

Which is the whole point. The fact that you're in Iowa is really interesting, and, you know, we're going to get into that. But you were that professional woman, and now you're on a farm, which I think is awesome. Yeah, we're going to talk about that slower pace, but you and your husband Scott, you were

kind of dreaming the big dreams and chasing those young adult ideals, describe what your 20s were like and what you and Scott were into. Both Scott and I had zero intention of ever moving back to rural Iowa. We did have our sites set on success, achievement, scaling, hustling, climbing the ladder. We went to law school and graduated and went into a career in insurance and I was a political

reporter at the Des Moines Register, which is a pretty exciting place to cover politics. That's actually a big paper in every four years because of the caucus that becomes one of

the most important papers, right?

Exactly. So it was really exciting, but also really exhausting.

“Sometimes I look back on that and I think how did our marriage survive that?”

We were like two ships passing in the night. And we started to think about having a family, our priorities began to shift and we realized that we wouldn't be able to be effective parents or effective spouses, I mean, it really is by the grace of God that our marriage survived that time. But we made this unexpected decision to move back to the fifth generation family farm.

I think we surprised even ourselves, but the idea of children has a way of shifting things in the interior journey of the soul. When we decided to move back, I'm telling you, people thought we were nuts. Like Jennifer, you're on the cusp of something really great in your news career. Scott, you just spent a lot of money on law school and now you're going to go back and

be a farmer. For a long time, I asked the question to myself, you know, what if they're right?

Because we had seemingly thrown a lot of potential away, a lot of the things that we had

built over time. But it took me a long time to ask a different question. And that question being, what if they're wrong? Because they weren't living the life of burnout that was just in ourselves. And let's, you know, going back to the 20 somethings that you were in at the time and you

were charged in ahead, that's not, you know, it's kind of normal, actually. And not everybody has a fifth generation farm that could say, let's give this up because we want a different base of life. And farming's not easy. I mean, it's got its challenges.

But in that context, it was more holistic, it sounds like, as you begin to contemplate

“having children and, you know, just the idea of professionalism, I think for women, particularly,”

and, Jennifer, this may be the most critical part of the program we do today.

And that is this idea that children are going to need much more of me and much more of Scott. How do we create that capacity? I don't know that couples are in that space today, is 28, 31, whatever it may be. And you know, it is, let's do all we can do financially to secure ourselves and make sure

we can afford a baby, how often do you hear that today? You can't afford a child, of course you can't, but you find a way, it's amazing how it works. But in that context, I just want to take us back there for the listener that they're right there, they're 30 something and they're still in the race and they haven't come to that aha, just give that to us a little more deeply about being that woman who wanted

children and then wanted to make sure the environment was conducive to parenting.

I wasn't even following the Lord at the time. So let me just tell you that even though I wasn't making decisions based on what God would have me do, God was still working in us and bringing us to a place where He drew us to Himself. But I think the challenge becomes for Christians and non-Christians alike, just look

to the ads for proof, like hustle, grind, more money, more success, more spending, and the quieter way, the slower way, the family way isn't screaming and shouting at us all the time, so to counterbalance that takes a great deal of focus and a great deal of faith, which God grew in us on the farm, but I think that the idea for women is that you're going to have to give something up to slow down.

But what we forget is that we have so much to gain, that we don't need to choose the spectacular life, the spectacular home, the spectacular family doing spectacular things and hosting spectacular parties.

“God works in the unspectacular, ordinary life, regular life is holy ground, and sometimes”

you can only see that when you look back, but it's just really hard to see it when you're in the midst of it. And I recognize that it's hard because you want to, you want to chase and achieve. And I mean, I still get to be a smart, capable woman on the farm, it doesn't change that. I just don't, I don't have to be doing it the same way I was before, which is bringing

the candle above. What regard the, the farm, I mean, what I loved about your book, you're very honest about, you got to the farm and then you kept yourself busy. And so wasn't, it wasn't like this formula that you said, "I'm so busy in my journalist life that my husband's a lawyer, and we're going to go to the farm and kick back and take

it slow. You hit the farm, running, and you found yourself in the same busy." That's right. What did it look like? I know.

I shocked even myself with this and a lot of people will say, "Well, of course you can grow slow. You live on a farm, but hurry isn't just an external issue. Hurry is something that hangs around your heart. You can have a kind of hurry sickness, a feeling like I just need to be busy, I need

to get more done, I'm going to wake up anxious, I need to hit the ground running. And I needed to have a shift internally outside of the pastoral, blue sky, fields, and livestock life that we were living and tend to the field of my heart that needed a divine farmer to come in and say, "We've got some work to do here." Yeah.

“In that context, I'm working a farm, it's predictable, you know what you got to do?”

You've got to feed the livestock, take care of this, plow that, harvest this, whatever it might be. It seems like I've rid them that is doable because you know what's expected, you know what

Versus just adversity coming at you all day long, problem-solving that's coming out of nowhere,

which is what we can experience in a more corporate environment, you know, lawsuits, whatever it might be.

“I think that rhythmic thing is what God intended for us.”

Speak to the rhythm of things and how you begin to learn to slow down. So God created our world with a rhythm. The sun comes up and it goes down, the earth spins, and it goes around the sun, and we go through day, and we go through night, and we go through seasons, spring, summer, fall, and winter, and there is a definite predictability to it.

You know, on a farm, we get up with the sun, and we go down when the sun goes down, and each day offers us this new opportunity to rise again with the Lord and with the sun, and to close out the day when it's time, I literally say good night to the office at 5 o'clock. I turn off the light, and I say good night to the office, and we are, you know, it's time to be a family again.

But the where I see that God really works in rhythms is in the seasons, and when we farm, we're planting literally millions of seeds in the spring, waiting for something to grow.

And sometimes it can take a very long time to see those first bits of plant come up.

And then we have summer seasons where everything is green and all the rows are touching,

“but we fear, of course, storms, wind storms, dry, all those things, right?”

So there's a lot of pressure to just kind of keep it going, and at the same time, trusting that God is doing his good work in the fields of lives. And then comes harvest fall, where there's nothing quite so wonderful is holding that fully ripe and thing in your hand and knowing all that went. I want to get this out.

Yeah, I love the seasons. And then, of course, winter, when things just kind of go dormant. You know, related to summer, you talk about, and you mentioned already, small things are big things.

I can remember in college, I had a professor talking about wind power, but also she was

working specifically on wave power. If we could harness the power of a wave, and I remember she gave a lecture, you know, totally void of spiritual understanding or anything like that. But the spiritual application is huge. When she said, you think of a coastline and you think of rock, which we all think of as

the hardest substance, you know, diamonds, rocks, a cliff, but water, potentially one of the softest things that hits us, hits that rock every day. And over centuries, it erodes it. The water wins. And I took that application to your summertime of little things, our big things.

Water is stronger than rock. Wow. That's so true. I mean, that's a growing slow process. And that's the way, you know, when you think through the formation of these beautiful

mountains, when you think through the formation of lakes over time, like how God uses natural processes slowly, over time, to grow things and to build things, and even in a farm field, you don't see the growth minute by minute. It's happening incrementally. You see it over days or even weeks and months, and the same is true in our lives.

These little things are growing up and around us. And there's a story that I wanted to share with you about these little things. You know, for summer, I'm telling you, sometimes I can just be like, I gotta keep this going. I gotta keep this growing and it's hot outside and, you know, the bugs are flying around

and there's all kinds of things that keep you from just zeroing in and focusing on the small things. But I had this friend. His name was Dave. He was a pastor and it's just like he had this instinctive knowledge that I was pushing

“just a little too far on the farm, my husband and I, right?”

And so he would send me these long emails and he would say, God delights in you, Jennifer. And sometimes it's the little things like that. Having a friend or someone we love, remind us that God delights in us, not just in what we are growing in our fields or in our lives, like God delights in us wherever we happen to be in the growth process.

Yeah, that is so good. But even to send that note, I mean, it's something we could do to somebody we care about, you know, God delights in you and such a great reminder. Yeah, and so Dave has passed away. And apparently I wasn't the only one that he used to send these messages to.

After he passed away on his Facebook page, it was filled with people saying, Dave, thank you for reminding me. That God delights in me. These bits of legacy, we think it's the big things. We think it's the, you know, the front page story in my case or, you know, a field of crops

that produces an exceptional yield, but the things that matter the most, the mattering

Yeah.

So we had spring and summer, let's move into fall or autumn.

What is the harvest like?

“What are some things that you learn spiritually about harvest?”

You know, the scripture is so full. I know. The harvest metaphor, Jesus spoke about it. Paul, everybody's talking about the harvest spiritually, obviously. The harvest of souls into the kingdom of God.

But you must really tangibly feel that when you're working with your own hands, bringing in the harvest with your husband's God. Yes, I love going on right along, getting in the combine beside him and going through the fields. And he's like a kid at Christmas, he loves the way that feels.

And there is something really special about looking out and knowing all the effort that went into that.

I mean, even, you know, for anybody listening that's ever, like, grown up tomato, right?

There's just something really cool about saying, "I did that. I grew that with God. Like, God and I co-created this thing. Oh, that's so cool." And that's what it feels like on the farm.

“And I think that's what it feels like when we harvest anything, you know, let's say you're”

an empty nest or your kids have moved on. And that feels like a real season, you're seeing fruit in their lives, and it's something to celebrate. And also, harvest is a time where the thing is over. So you have the joy and the celebration of having reached this point.

But also a bit of sorrow and sadness that is over. Yeah.

In fact, that's what I was going to ask about that, because sadness is a natural part of life.

We've gone through a season of losing some pets and some family members, which is, of course, a greater loss. Just trying to help our kids learn that sadness is a season. It's not necessarily going to define the rest of life, address that from your perspective. So, yes, I described myself in the book as the queen of unexpressed grief, because ever

since I was young for whatever reason, I didn't want to cry. I didn't want to be seen as being in sorrowful, and so I became busy doing things. But I even remember from a young age when my grandparents would die, like, let me write the obituary. Let me write a poem.

Let me do this. Let me help. Just do, do, do. So, I don't have to really deal with what is hurting. My father passed away a couple of years ago, and it was a long goodbye.

He had just a heart failure and was on hospice. And because of some work that I had done internally and with the Lord, I let myself grieve. And sometimes that was really hard, because I didn't want to have to feel my feelings. But I feel like I'm in such a healthier place now after losing my beloved father, because I allowed myself to feel what I needed to feel, and to just, you know, cry before the

Lord and even cry with my family and even cry with my dad. You know, in addition to the pace of life and all the things that we've talked about, that may be one of the golden nuggets out of our discussion today, because I think this issue of unprocessed grief is a killer for us physically, emotionally, spiritually. And we don't even recognize it, that we haven't slowed down to the point where we could

really grieve the loss of something, whatever it might be, certainly family members. And just the ability to do that, I remember as a nine-year-old, and I was at my mom's funeral. And, you know, everybody was telling me, you know, don't cry. And that was the thing I walked away from, my mom's funeral was if I don't cry, then I've met somebody standard, and I remember fighting those tears back.

And now, I mean, I'm thinking, how stupid that was to tell a nine-year-old not to cry at his mom's funeral, right? And so that's one of the things I'm a big advocate for. Let your kids cry when there is loss. And my David King David, he was a man in touch with his emotions, you know, and I think

the Lord loves that aspect of our heart, he wants us to be connected in that way. He wants us to feel life. He wants us to slow down and understand those seasons, you know. And he models it, right? I mean, the shortest verse in the New Testament, we all know, Jesus wept.

So we can look to our Savior to know that it's okay to cry. Yeah. And with your dad's passing, that kind of tips us into the winter season. And, you know, the elements of that, or there are other examples, I mean, that's a good one.

You look at the winter season, what are some other things that you classify as winter time?

“So I think that this is an area where we want to skip over, right?”

Talk about an expressed grief and moving past things, like, let's just skip winter. Like, we live people, they're called snowbirds. That's why we move to Florida. That's right. Okay.

Like, just keep me in spring and summer and fall, skip winter and spring, summer, fall. And that's the American way, right? Just keep producing. And so like, winter is this season where, when I wrote growing slow, I didn't want

It split into seasons. Yeah. And I sent into chapters. I'm like, that's enough because this is a really depressing way to end the book. I get a note back from my editor.

More winter, please. Oh, wow. And so Scott and I, I said, Scott, you got to help me. What's happening on the farm that is productive in winter because it seems like you and I are just looking out at these fields and just waiting and just itching for the sun to come

out again so we can get out in those fields. And we, he began to share some things with me about what's happening on the farm. One of those things is that the, the ground needs the cold, dark of winter to, to kill off diseases and pest cycles. It's snow when it falls, it pulls nitrogen on the way down.

So it's called poor man's fertilizer, you and Iowa.

“But the biggest thing that I think is so cool and has some metaphorical application here.”

It is that when winter turns to spring, right at that period, we get rocks in our fields. And we have to go out and we have to pick rock, which is funny because there's more than one rock. But for whatever reason, it's called picking rock. The reason we got to get those rocks out of the field is because they'll hurt the equipment

comes spring. So these are things that are been in the ground now they're exposed. Yeah, but the frost thaw cycle of the land pushes them up and out. And this is the healing work of winter on a farm and just imagine your heart as a field. Think about the things that you've carried in your heart for a very long time.

Winter has a way when we quiet ourselves for God to have those push up and out so that he can remove them like what would it be like in the winter seasons of our lives to let God pick rock, to let him take those things out of the field of our life so that spring seasons we have healthy, productive fields.

So winter might be the most important growth season of all.

Well, and he talks about it that way, the stowniness of someone's heart, right? That's the rocks of the field you're talking about. If we can slow down, we can see God's fingerprint everywhere. And he all of the signage that he's trying to give us to say, here's the way to go. Here's the pace you go at, here's the things you recognize, I mean, this is all good.

“Right at the end here, let's cover the five things to never forget that you mentioned”

the book. And this is great. And in a minute we'll give you the direction on how to get your copy of this book. But let's end with the five things not to forget. I'm happy to do so. The first one to not forget is just to be right here and right now.

Embrace the love, loveliness of the moment that we're in. I heard it said before that you can get so busy and in such a hurry that your afraid you're going to be late to your own funeral. Right. It's a little bad at you.

Yeah, right. And so just to slow down and appreciate the loveliness of this moment, like I have in

all my years as a farmwife, I've never once seen a corn plant freaking out.

Right. It just does what it does. It does what it does. And we don't have to freak out either. So just be right here and right now.

“And the second thing is that nature never worries, like wherever you are, get yourself out”

in nature and see how God does work through rhythms, through seasons, through, you know, get yourself out and watch a sunrise or a sunset. It just has a way of unhuring your heart. The third thing is that scarcity mindset breeds panic and a growing slow mindset promotes peace.

So in a scarcity mindset, we are often in a rush to acquire success and things, a growing slow mindset that peaceful feeling that you have is a reminder to your own stuff that there's plenty to go around. Yeah. Take care of you.

He has not forgotten about you. You don't have to rush trying to get more. Yeah. That's so good. And there are so many scriptures that line up with that.

A hundred percent, yes. Man. That is so good. The fourth is the reminder from Ecclesiastes, three, one-through-elevenous. It says that to everything there is a season.

And, you know, if you look at those pairings a time, you know, there's happy times like time died. Right. I mean, there's some hard ones. Yeah.

One's time for dancing and for burthing and all of these beautiful things. And not every season gives us exactly what we want. But each help us to become all that we might become so that we learn to praise him in the good and at the same time to trust him in the heart. Exactly.

Everything there is a season. And what's the last one?

That Jesus was never in a hurry.

Yeah. That's for sure. So if we want to learn how to operate and move through this world, like we should model the behavior of Jesus.

I see him sitting at a well.

I see him around dinner tables. He's connecting with people all the time.

“I mean, even after he rose from the grave, what does he do?”

He's like, you know what? I think I'm going to go back out to the leg, find the fellows. I'm going to make a charcoal fire, and we are going to have breakfast. Such an unhurried, beautiful picture of our unhurried, beautiful Savior. It's so good.

Jennifer, this is, I mean, I'm just common talking with you.

I see it. But what a great resource, growing slow, lessons on unhurrying your heart from an accidental farm girl. At what a great story you have, that professional, you know, driving journalist at the Des Moines Register, and then on the farm with your husband Scott Deloyer, who has

become the farmer. So, thank you so much for being with us, and spending time helping us to slow down. Thank you for having me. And, man, this is one of those resources.

“I think it could change your family's trajectory.”

You know, there's so many young families that are catching this, you know, they're practicing the Sabbath. We've interviewed a handful of them, and it's refreshing to see the 20-something-30-something families that are going, this doesn't work for us, this pace. We're going to go back to scriptural truth and apply that.

Well, this would be a great resource if you're in that space and need and want to do that. And I would encourage everybody to go there. I'm going to talk to Gene about it tonight. Let's slow down. And you can get a copy of this by just ordering it from a seared focus on the family.

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