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Big show today, ladies and gentlemen. We have two guests. We have your two most recent winners on the PGA tour. Big thanks to Kevin Kisner. We got Cam Young and Oxj Batilla. Awesome interviews, kisses on both of them with us. All brought to you by the Chevy Equinox, which is your do it all. SUV from your daily drives weekend trips last minute. T times they've got the huge, the big touchscreen display puts all your music maps, a tech front and center Chevy supports us, supports our program, supports a lot, pretty much all of what we do, but especially this podcast.

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Yeah, now you got to break 90. We appreciate what you guys did for dog. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool. We appreciate it. I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking 29, 99, and he grabs a hundred. He's like, yeah, I won 90,000

“in these yesterday. Yeah, take a hundred and go fuck yourself. What? What do you guys think?”

It's saying a hobby. For play, president of my bar stool sports, just a quick little intro from us here, and then we're going to throw it to interviews. We don't want to bury these. We want them to be the highlight of the show. Kids got these guys for us, which is just awesome. So, you're going to get the three of us Kevin Kisner, and then cameyong and akshay batia. We got two separate interviews. So, awesome show.

Those are your two recent winters, players, championship, and the art of Palmer invitational. So, it's going to be an excellent show. We're going to throw it to Cameron really quickly, but I wanted to touch on a reminder Kevin Kisner video kind of his debut as part of the crew on YouTube. He was coming out today, Thursday on the fourth play YouTube channel. It's just good of a YouTube video. If you're a YouTube golf fan, if you're a YouTube golf contributor, as we are, just

“man, I think it's about as good a video as we could put out. Yeah, make sure you head over to the YouTube”

channel, give it a like, give it a comment, welcome Kis to the crew a little bit on the YouTube front. It's a rematch. It's a 3v1, and it goes, you know, we can kind of preview it with Kis last week, but it kind of goes down to the wire, and it's just as good of a video as you're ever going to see on YouTube. Kis is going to be a star. If he isn't already one on YouTube. So, yeah, it's great. It's absolutely great. I think that was probably a drop around 10 a.m. today.

So, make sure you go and give that a look, see for us, and also just some, it's a great Thursday content, a podcast and a video. There's a lot coming out, you're away from the four play guys. You know, we're definitely revving things up around here once the kids train start rolling. Yep. Make sure you check that out. It's great. You're going to a lot of people are going to love it. So, excited folks to see that. Great work from the guys behind the scenes, whipping it around,

turning it around. We filmed that right down in saw grass across the street from the player's championship last week. So, it was a hell of a day. It was a hell of a match and Kis is obviously the man. And then the last thing I got before we throw it is just partial classic. Huge thanks to everybody.

“I think about half the stop sold out incredibly quickly as they as they typically do.”

One thing I want to call out is date two at a lot of places. We've got a little bit of a phenomenon going on where day one, you know, at two or three different stops, cities, resorts that we're going to. Day one is sold out and then has a pretty healthy waitlist. And then day two has not filled up yet. So, just a reminder out there. If you are one of these folks who you signed up at the park or quarter lane for fields ranch down at PGA Frisco. And you signed up

or day one. You didn't get it in time. And now you're on the waitlist. Just your reminder that like the next day you could also play. So, make sure that's an option. You go register right that.

Jump off the waitlist from day one. Jump in day two. But huge thanks to everybody as always who

signed up. Like I said, like 80% of the tour is pretty much sold out. You know, a half of the venues are sold out already half the days. And then most of the other days are with some spots

we're going to, we're going to have a busy busy April. We're going to have the master's tournament.

“We're going to have the varsal classic kicking off with a couple different stops. So,”

we're going to be, we're going to be revenue back up pretty soon here, gentlemen.

Yeah, the park's going to be great. So, make sure that second day we want that to kind of kick off

the right way. We're going to have a huge party kind of launching this new version of the Bars to Classic. And yeah, I was, I wouldn't call it like a risk, but it's definitely a different format in terms of like you're going to cities that we've been to. And you're asking them now double the amount of people that play in the Bars to Classic. So, maybe people aren't like realizing there's two options to play. When you see that first day gets sold out, they might not even be

knowing that there's that second option. So, it's a good call out. There's a couple cities where that second day is definitely an option for you guys to go out and go and get those spots. But, you know, we have a lot of things playing for the Bars to Classic this year. As you can imagine, it's going to be as good of an event as possible. So, can't wait to get that going. It's going to be fantastic. Yeah, we're going to have a great time. We're going to party. We're

going to hang, we're going to play golf a couple of the different venues. A quarter lane for

“example. I know I think pretty much all of us are going to go up there for a week and just kind of”

hang around to be around and host the two events and hang with people with the resort,

play a little bit of golf ourselves. So, it's going to be fun, tour in the country. As it always is,

hunker and down for two, three, four days and a lot of these places and getting a mingle with people and getting to really kind of lock into the event. So, they will, they will sell out, they will fill up. This is kind of your call. Maybe your last call to like, hey, if you really want to spot in the Bars to Classic, maybe you're not sure about day one. You wanted to make it a three day whatever it might be. A bunch of the day two's have some spots available still. So, jump on that

if you would like. Otherwise, if nobody has anything else, we got two phenomenal interviews that we've teased a couple of times now. So, without further ado, let's throw it to Cameron Young and the Ruggin on throw it to Oxjabit to you after him. Friends, please welcome to the program. A man who is currently the number four ranked human male golfer on this here, the planet Earth. He carried much of the torch for team USA's Ryder Cup team last fall with an excellent

three-one and zero record, which included a phenomenal clutch dramatic victory on the 18th toll with a fantastic pot to take down European stalwart Justin Rose in singles. He also won last year one of my sneaky favorite tournaments on the PGA tour, which is the Windham Championship, however, Kevin Kisner also won that event. So, you might want to take that with a grain of salt. Sharing the home state of New York with their very own Frankie Burrellie, he is a devoted husband,

he is a father of three, our newest guest right here on the show was deemed by Kevin Kisner to be his favorite player on team USA and he is freshly minted as your 2006 players champion. Please welcome Mr. Cameron Young. Yeah, baby. Well done, intro. Thank you. Damn, it was pretty good. I've never seen that before. Yeah, you know, I couldn't sleep on the flight this morning, so I kind of whip that up as like a nice little bit, but I got to thank you, Cam. I got to thank you. I don't

never really give out picks. I interrupted the show last week for the first time ever to be like,

I got to tell you guys something. Somebody's on my radar this week. I got Cam Young is going to win this golf tournament and then you won the fucking golf tournament. Thank you very much. Nice to meet you. Awesome performance, awesome performance. I want to start with something that

“I think everybody wants to know about. I got to know where the pause came from. I got to know”

why we're still doing it and I got to know if the rest of us should be doing the pause. Yeah, I don't know if it's for everybody. It appeared kind of somewhere in college and I don't know exactly why I think we're trying to change some sequencing and yeah, it started then and you know, it's staying because of tried. I've tried seriously. I think twice to get rid of it and I'm like it's three handicap. If I try to get rid of it, so I'm wrong with that, but

yeah, yeah. But anyway, so yeah, I've tried and it doesn't work. For me, I don't really feel it. I mean, if I ever do start to feel it, I know that probably something's wrong. There's something moving around up there that probably shouldn't be. So yeah, it's staying for now. So you say you don't feel anything to the viewer. It's almost like you have time to think when you're up there. I'm watching like, I watch you stop and it's like, is he thinking? How are you about

that? Some of it, and it's obviously it's way more pronounced like once I get into long irons three would driver. But some of it is fake. Some of it is like, as I get up there, like, I'm kind of going and this arm starts to bend a little bit. So there's a little bit of it that is just a bit of an illusion, but yeah, I'm slow up there than pretty much everybody else. I don't stop quite like Rebecca does like he's fully structured and stops up there where I think I've still got some

it's it's mine and I don't think I could really play any other way. Yeah, I think it's good for the brand. So you're you're you're you're pausing the real spot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is it it's funny? Because like I remember Jim Fierke interviews. They would ask him about, you know, his swing would be like, you got a weird looking swing man. What do you think? And he's like, I want you to know, I think my swing when I take it back, I think

I look like Tiger Woods. So I would guess like, do you you probably feel like you're swinging

“like everybody else? I do. Yeah. It really does. And yeah, like the the only thing I lose,”

if I if I go like really fast off the ball and try to get rid of it, I pick up a little bit of speed. But it's a shot that I don't hit, you know, in competition really like I'll hit it on the range. Everyone's so all just to kind of see what it is. And it's something I've thought about

maybe trying to use at some point, but it just never makes sense. You know, I kind of don't know

where it's going. And yeah, it just feels normal. It's it's hard to explain, but I don't, I don't notice it really ever. Judging by your 375 yard drive on 18 cam, I'm not really sure we need any more speed. Yeah. On the broadcast, we show it back from the green and your your balls like I could throw it on the green from there. And I literally said something like, that's the longest freaking drive I've ever seen on 18 in my life. And then I get handed this step like longest drive

in shot link era history on 18. So my boy walked right over to 18. And I'm talking as you're walking to 18. I'm like, you know, I don't know what he's going to hit here. But he gets to set the tone because he makes birdie on 17. Yeah. And you just straight rip that driver off to you.

“Yeah, this freaking bomb draw. And I'm like, holy shit, my boy's doubted. Yeah. Well, honestly, I'm really”

proud of Kyle for that because he's the one that took it out. And we had said, like, on Tuesday,

Wednesday, you know, I've never hit that T shot great. Right. But I just said, look, this week,

we're just sitting driver like it. I'm going to step up. I'm going to try to hit four good ones. I'm probably hit a bat one, but, you know, I think I gained more hitting three good ones than I do trying to not hit a bad one. Right. And, you know, for him in that moment to just take to the plan, didn't ask any questions, headed to him. It was kind of like, yeah, it was a reminder to me. I almost was thinking, maybe I do something else. But like you said, I mean, it was a, it was a

chance to set the tone. And I think it was, I think it was really good of him to just, you know, this was the plan, hand me the driver and go. What's your line there on the T? Because we, we talked going into it, how hard that T shot is. You can blast it. Yeah, there's a, in the book that there's it. Yeah, there's a 325 line, a 325 through where we kind of aimed the first couple days, especially

with Windolph the right, you know, it's never really going to get through on that line. Like,

kind of by the time it gets there, it's going to be going left. So you have a little bit of room right of that, and obviously more left. So you're kind of aimed right center. And our line was probably, you know, 10 to 15 yards left of that on Sunday, just no one, how much help we had with the wind. And yeah, so it was just, that's all we did. I mean, we just confirmed like, hey, you know, this is where I'm going. It's, you know, 10 yards left to where we've been and then just go hit one.

Man, it reminded me a lot of when Rory won there for the first time, because it's like he got, you know, you get through the gauntlet that is like 16's playing on the wind, 17, he could happen. And then you finally like, what an unbelievable two on 17, and it's like, it was a statement, man, like, when you guys pulled that big dog, because like we're kind of talking about, I mean, Maddie fits, you know, you were in the group, but it looked to me like he had a great drive

and his kind of ideas. Yeah. So he had been in full control too. I mean, there was no part of me that expected him to make him a state. He had played great. And, you know, he's not, he's not shy in a moment like that. I mean, he's one of U.S. Open. He won, I don't have any time to think. He opened head and play off a couple of years ago, hit and something to a foot. I mean, he's a guy that, you know, you're not necessarily wanting to play against in a situation like that. He's

he's really good and doesn't, doesn't back down from a moment like that. So yeah, we weren't expecting him to make him a state, but obviously when, you know, he hits it, hits it solid and the ball's going a long way. And it was too far right, you know, kind of, not off the club face, but once it didn't turn, you know, we knew it was kind of going through. So it was kind of surprising to watch. There's a couple of holes I really want to talk about. Two of the parfives nine and 16. I want to

start with nine. The night poll, you know, the parfives out there are so awesome. And a guy kind of with

“your playing style, you would think going, I think you had you part all five on Sunday. You would think”

and play with more miracles. Get the job. I think actually talking through this night poll because a night poll was looking like you were in jail a couple times. Yeah, yeah, I was entirely. I wish there was a like a tracker of my four key shots off the 90. I hit a tree like 200 yards off the on the left

So I was over there three times and the other one that I hit like should have gone on the water and hung up in the rough, like a foot above the water around the right. So I don't know what it was,

“but I did not sniff that fairway any of this. Is it just visual? Do you think it's like visual to you?”

You know, I've never, that's not one I've ever really been worried about. I've never really struggled

and for whatever reason I just could not get one. It's frustrating because I can reach that like if I can just get it and play, I can reach that green and two. And I try as I might, I could not get one anywhere that I could hit the second shot. And then obviously on Sunday where I hit the four arms awful, that's the least difficult looking driving hold of me at saw grass 100%. You know what? I think it looks like you can reach fairway under it all day. Yeah, yeah, like on Sunday

that there's, it does narrow because it had firmed up and it was downwind. Right. But the first three days, I mean, it is literally 60 yards wide and it's the only, it's the closest thing to a freebie you get out there and I could not come anywhere. Yeah, it's crazy because I was on a plane and my, my service kind of going in and out and I had for me a ton of money on the line. So they paying like eight, you play the eightfold great hit that one up. They're kind of pin high

fairly lipped out and then they didn't show you for 10 minutes or so. And then they paned to you

“and you look like you're in a fucking jungle on nine. And I was like, what happened? Where's he at?”

And then you hit the shot out of there and then they cut to you again. And I think it was kids or Dan Hicks. They were like before they even showed the view from behind you. They kind of showed your ball rolling into that bunker for your layup shot. And I just heard them go, oh, that's a horrible spot. It is, it is one of the worst places you can find yourself out there that isn't in water. Yeah, I mean, that's like one of those places you don't even look at because you're just,

you're going to avoid it at all costs. And you hit a six shot out of that bunker though to get it where you go. Yeah. Yeah, I hit a pretty, I got lucky too. I mean, it knicked something up there. I think it was just some leaves. So it didn't change it much, but I mean, it very well could have, you know, hit a little branch and bounce up and go and gotten us where. So I was, when you were standing over that, I assumed you were just going to hit something or chuck it into the bunker farther up.

Yeah, I was literally telling Smiley to tell Kyle not to rake the bunker if you hit it in the bunker because I used to be up here only. I don't even know if it is, but like you're still in the same bunker. Everybody would just grab that rake and start raking. And I'll make sure if he hits it in the

“bunker. Yeah, I had your back there. I was watching it. What was that? What club did you hit from there?”

Because you punched none of the trees. Yeah, I had gap wedge. I had like, it was like 72 yards to the

front edge or something. And I was just trying to get it somewhere over that bunker basically.

Honestly, it came out a little higher than I thought. I was kind of hitting so soft. I figured it would just come out real low. I kind of had it like, but it, and yeah, it came out a little higher than I wanted to, but for it to get through somewhere that at least I had, you know, there's no straight forward up and downs out there, but at least it was doable. You know, I had some time to work with and I was kind of right there. You know, you could get any lie over there. You could get a lie. You have no control over,

but thankfully, I got when it was kind of just sitting in the middle of the grass laying against me. It's one that, you know, I know is going to kind of come out slow and was somewhat predictable. From that distance, this is so like just out of the, out of my world to me, being able to hit a bunker shot, 60, 70 yards, you're saying you're putting it. It's probably off the back foot, right? It's like, how, what are you thinking in terms of context? Is that like a regular bunker shot,

taking sand hit the wall first? What are you hitting? No, yeah. I was, it's definitely ball first.

If anything, like trying to miss thin probably, just knowing that like, you know, if I were to top it or something, at least I know kind of where it's going to go, right? And if you get it up in the trees, who knows where it could go, I actually hit one similar to that at Pebble Beach in number of weeks ago. And it was, I think the 15th hole and it was wet to the ball was skipping. And I hit, I hit something similar to that that flew like 60 yards and skipped like another 30 up onto the

green. So I kind of was sitting there with Kyle, like, I think it's the shot we hit a month ago at Pebble Beach out of the library on 15. And he's like, okay, that makes sense. Because the other option is to go out sideways, which, you know, to a front pin there kind of downwind, you're out of lock. So I felt like it was worth trying. Can you believe that I'll work with these guys and they're asking you if you hit ball first on the shot like that? Well, you know what, I mean, I do that. I signed up for

this shit. He did. He's like, he's like, he's eager to join the ship. Crazy. You're also, yeah, I mean, like, we have to get tips like open your back foot and turn to the greatest driver of the golf ball of all time, like listen, it's babies that's out here. Transfer ready elementary. We're trying to up, we're trying to get it a little bit higher now. I'm going to start pausing for like 15 seconds at the top of my back swing. I want to talk about 16 now. I mean, 16 is really where this

golf term is a viewer. It's edgy or seat type stuff. That holds usually, you know, we were kind

You get up there. Fitsy hooks one gets an insanely lucky bounce at my opinion. We don't have to talk

“about that, but then you step up there, walk us through your 16th hole. Yeah, I think that was the first”

time. No, I think it had the fairway on Thursday. And then I missed way left, way right on Friday, Saturday. So I was, you know, it was one of those ones. I was thankful to get it in the fairway. And then it kind of just ended up at a number that I just didn't have any idea what to do. Because if I, if I laid up, you know, I had to lay up far enough back for that tree on the left and not be in my way. So it was almost one of those were like, if I lay up, I still have 120 to a back pin in that much

wind. I mean, the wind was won't hard at that point. So I felt like that shot wasn't that easy. You know, like, I probably make power, but it's not just a, it's not a free wedge shot.

And I also just didn't have a great number to get anything into the middle of the green.

For iron, it was like 220 front, probably playing 250. So four iron was probably going to maybe roll to the front if I hit it great. And it's, you know, nine yards wide right there. But if I hit hybrid, it gets way up in the wind, you know, not quite sure where that's going to come down. And the other option is three would, which is like flying it back there within a few steps of the hole, which I felt like was down. So I kind of just decided to hit four iron and try to

miss it, like, you know, within reason left where I thought I had an angle. And, you know, got up the wind started turning and just had no chance. And then obviously it's the tree. It wouldn't have been anywhere great if it missed the tree. But, you know, it could have kicked somewhere other than straight down into a plug black. That was the one where Kiz was, he told the story. That's where he knew for 30 seconds, Dan Hicks was going to ask him,

how do you play the shot, Kiz? He came to him. He's like, I got no idea. I don't, I don't, I really don't know. I'd be asking my cat. He like, what do you like? I don't know what? Yeah, I hear a 40 yard plug bunker shot with water everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, thankfully, thankfully it had firmed up pretty good. And it's like a little bit of a downslope between there and the green. Right. So I felt like, I felt like if I just got it out with at least

get to the front edge, which is not great. I mean, you have an 80 foot pot from 90 foot pot or whatever. But yeah, I mean, it was just one of those. You come up to you and you're like, okay, well, this is awful. And, you know, it was just trying to just get something out to where I felt like I could maybe get down into and just grab the pitching wedge and took a hack. You know,

“there wasn't, it wasn't real complex thought over it honestly. It was kind of just”

get it down there and see where it goes and try to deal with it later. And to get where it ended up was a pretty good shot. Yeah, I thought I, I think I called it like the shot of the tournament for you. Like, I mean, really bad shit could happen. You could have left it. Yeah, it could have come out hot right in the water. But yeah, that was a hell of a shot. Yeah. It did exactly what I wanted. It was just to get it somewhere like in the fairway kicking toward the green and now I kind of see how far

it will. How important has you mentioned your caddy Kyle a couple different times. How important is Kyle been for you? I think you brought him on a little less than a year ago, maybe? Yeah. He started at the truest last year at Philly Creek Club. So he's been, you know, it's somewhere in the low 20s events now. How much has he helped you? Because I think, you know, kids was doing some of his investigative journalism. I think on the last show and and tell us, you know, kind of about

your potting transformation a little bit and how much he's helped. Yeah, he's been good. I mean, I feel like I had turned to corner the beginning of last year before he was caddy and for me,

but yeah, I mean, to have a second set of eyes, he's always been a good putter and a good green

reader. So to have a second set of eyes where, you know, if I have a day where I'm just not seeing it well or something, I have someone else that I can, you know, at least bounce ideas off up or say, hey, Kyle, like, you know, you're reading greens today. Like, I'm not seeing it. You know, so it kind of takes a little bit of pressure off me and he's, he's just great to have out there. I mean, it's nice to keep things a little lighter when you have a friend on the bag and

“I think he's really kind of dived into the, you know, the hard work that it takes to be”

in a lead caddy, you know, he hadn't caddy much. He actually cadded for me a couple of weeks when I first Monday, qualified under the corn fairy tour, but other than that, hasn't caddy the ton and has really kind of picked it up quick and has gotten to understand the preparation that goes into, you know, knowing the things that he needs to know when I ask him a question out there. So he's quickly become a great resource, you know, both putting in just generally, I mean,

he's not really good job. Were there, were there any big ones out there on Sunday that it was like, you made a huge call on what it's going to do? Yeah, there, a couple. I mean, I think, um, I'd say 12 was a good one. You know, it's one of those, I could reach with driver. We were probably

know exactly where we stood. Um, but, you know, I saw, I saw Rory hit driver on the green, you know,

close early in the day and then, um, so I'm sitting there thinking, you know, I can reach for sure. But, um, he just, we kind of talked about it and we just like, look, you know, it's downwind, you're not going to miss the fairway with four iron and you're going to have, you know, 110 to 115 yards every time. And, you know, in that scenario, that golf course is as tricky and as sketchy as it comes. And I just said, okay, like, let's just, let's hit a wedge, you know, and see what happens. And I

made par, but, you know, on that golf course, there's no hole out there. We're a stress-free par with a

“reasonable birdy opportunity is bad. That's just pretty good all day long. So, um, I think that was”

that was a good moment form, just to, you know, he kind of stuck to his guns and said, like, I know he can, but you just don't need to. You can just hit four iron into wedge. Um, so I think that, just general kind of conservative approach is what we took most of the week. You know, we took the, as much as you can, take the things that the golf course gives you. And that's one of those where, you know, if you just hit a four iron somewhere on the face, it's, you're probably going to

have a wedge shot in and, you know, those don't come around very often out there. You like to hit driver, man. You love to just put it over. Yeah. I do, yeah. Yeah. I love that, but when you, if it ever goes well, even for like nine holes, golf is easy when you drive a lot. Yeah. Everywhere with that right, then. Let's get them up at night. No, then. Yeah. I don't even want to talk about the night. We'll cut that part. We'll cut that part.

“We'll cut that part. How often are you looking at leaderboards out there? Because obviously,”

Ludwig didn't have a great day out there. Yeah. Like, when are you becoming aware that things are kind of coming back to you or that you have a real chance to like to win this thing? It was on 13. I mean, I thought, I thought making the turn, maybe, because I feel like if Ludwig, you know, is three hundred through six or something, you're kind of like, okay, you know, I'm not three or four

hundred through six. This is probably over. It's kind of a battle for second at that point.

But, you know, being three back with nine, three or four back with nine to play, I feel like that's certainly within reach out there. I mean, there was, we probably had between Ludwig and I, a seven or eight shots swing on the back nine. I don't know exactly what it was, but. Yeah, seven. So, I mean, things do happen and you don't expect them, but they do happen out there. So, I felt like we were well within within a reasonable chance of winning. And obviously,

you get to the, I see the leaderboard on 13 after Matt and I both made birdie. And that's when you're like, man, what happened behind us, but also, you know, it's kind of between me and him more so now. So, that's really where it became more apparent where we stood. I had been looking at leaderboards some of the day, not at every single one of them, but I was generally aware. And then, obviously, that's kind of the, you know, that's kind of the moment where, like, okay, it's kind of

game on between the two of us. And, you know, you got six holes to go tied for the lead or one

“back, I think it was the time. Describe that feeling over the one footer to win the player's championship.”

Yeah. Yeah, it's, it all kind of hit me right at once. I was not real nervous. I feel like even through 17, I was obviously a little bit nervous, but not at all a hindrance. I feel like I was just really into what I was doing, you know, 17 was just I got to watch one, you know, I ran through the numbers, felt like I had a perfect number, hit the shot, made the plot. And then, nervous on 17, a nervous on 18T, just, but honestly, more, more related to the fact that that T shot is just uncomfortable.

Not necessarily the, the circumstance, but like I'd pulled one there yesterday, or on Saturday. And it's just a hard T shot. So, it's kind of one of those, you're, you know, saying a pair before you hit it anyway. But yeah, and then I was fine on the wedge shot, and then really fine

on the first spot I hit a nice spot. And then once Matt misses and it kind of all hit me,

I literally could not, I think I hit my put with the line lined up like inside right on an age spot. Because I, I mean, I tried twice, and I just wasn't going to try again, so it was kind of a huge breakdown in, in process, I suppose there. But yeah, I was pretty, pretty nervous over that one. And it's one that you, I don't want to say you can't miss, but you can't really, I mean, it's, it was, had to be less than a foot. And, um, but in, in the moment, it, it didn't feel that way.

It feels like you might, it felt, it felt like I really struggled to get that one down there. But the last thing you want to do is miss the part that you can't miss. And then everybody's like, yeah, exactly. I'm almost wish it had been like four, well, I don't, at all. I wish it, yeah, I wish it had been four inches and not nine because that would be felt less

vice captain for Team USA, you know, I mean, we know him as, I think he drank 30 song cruisers and beers last Thursday with us. And then to envision him out there and this unbelievably, uh, tense, awesome team environment, maybe the biggest spectacle in golf. What was Kisner like as a vice captain on the group text and all that? Yeah, I mean, it was great to me. Um, like you said,

“he just told me, I was a favorite player all week. I think I just think I don't ask for much. So”

maybe it was maybe it was that. I was only late for my car once. Um, pretty good. But it was four in the morning. So that was the morning. I wrote with you. What? And I was like, is this dude? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, no, I wasn't still asleep. Um, but yeah, I mean, Kis is great. It's, uh, it is like he said kind of a tense week. Um, and I think he, he fits it well because, you know, obviously understands the, um, kind of how we're feeling generally. It's, it's the nervey kind of tense

atmosphere and, um, you know, Kis has a good way with kind of lightning things up a little bit, fall also, you know, taking care of us and knowing what we need as players to kind of get through

a week like that. Hey, we got our first point that morning, didn't we? Yeah. I think probably

no, it's somebody one that afternoon, but we lost four and I had the first match, right, on the, on the, on the, I think, uh, yeah, was it? Money if, was it for a, no, we had to one one. No, we lost four of the first session. I know that. Yeah. And then I'm not sure if we, I mean, I don't think it might have been like seven and a half to a half times. Yeah, J, J,

“J, and I won on on Saturday afternoon. We might have had you in Bryson one Saturday morning, right?”

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I won't, I won't, I'll all be on that match. Yeah. I like having him hit my T shot honestly. That's a pretty nice bonus there. I would play from either one of yours. Yeah. That was a fun scene with him hitting those first T shots on, uh, you know, right there. What, uh, you know, you, you, you performed phenomenally at the Ryder Cup. You were sort of like, you were like, our North Star for a lot of it, where it was just like, we, you know, we couldn't get much going,

then they would pan to camp, y'all. It's like, you're like winning holes. You're, you're showing some emotion, which I like to see as a heartbeat under there, which is great. Uh, fortunately. Yeah. What was the, uh, what was it, what allowed you to play to play so well in an environment that it seems like it was hard for a lot of our players to play way, you know, to win matches? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I think it, I think a lot of it was just, we spent so many months

trying to prepare for that moment. Um, you know, everything we did with the whole second app

season was really, you know, one trying to make the team. I was in a terrible spot, started May. So it was, it was, it was so much work just to try to get ready for it and to try to, you know, do everything I could to make myself comfortable, no one was coming up. And, um, yeah, I mean, it is kind of a really, really perfect storm of all that, plus I was already playing some good golf. So it just felt like, uh, felt like it, you know, wasn't as hard as I felt like it would be

in some ways, um, which I know, it could have very well found very differently. But, um, I was pretty comfortable and, um, was playing well. So it just, I was in a frame of mind to kind of let that come out and, uh, you know, had a good week playing golf. I'm sure you're a second tired of hearing about the emotion talk. I mean, if it's become kind of like your thing to really just go about your business, cold as ice, walk right off with the trophy and then it's, you know, it's just

the whole home another day. Um, I've alluded to you as being like the ER like, oh, another bird, another birdy, just another birdy, just no, you know, not really getting too high and not getting too low.

Has that always been your demeanor while in high pressure to generate situations or is this,

like, um, concerted effort while you're on tour to like keep everything just level. Like, has this been something you've worked on to just like kind of bring yourself down or is this just who you

“are? Yeah. I mean, I think, I think as a young golfer, like, it's easy to get wrapped up and, you know,”

I've made four birdies in the last five holes. I'm going to, you know, play the best round of my life. I'm going to win the tournament, whatever it is. And, um, I found that, maybe it's going on in there. I thought that was my 10 month old. I literally thought that was my house. I don't know what, where that was coming from. I looked around. That's one of them. I better not be by house. I was just saying, I was like, three bucks. I could have came out of.

But I just found, I found it was easier to kind of just maintain that and I, I felt like I had a better chance of just, you know, kind of continuing on playing well if I learned to modulate the emotions a little bit. Um, so at this point, it's just, it's not that I'm not happy when I make a birdie. It's not that I'm, you know, unhappy to be there or whatever it is, it's just it's more my way of trying to play the best that I can. And, um, you know, that's just how it's

through playing golf as opposed to getting super high and super low. You know, I still have my,

“my angry moments or whatever it may be. But, um, you know, very rarely going to get caught up in”

what I've just done, whether it's good or bad. It's cold as ice when you win, man. It's got to, it's got to throw the opponents off a little bit. Like, this guy is not showing me a thing. He's birdie in golf course. He ain't showing me a fucking thing. We're not going to get into that. Yeah. I mean, it is one of those things, too. Like, I mean, you think about some of the guys that have been great major champions, you know, multiple time winners on the BGA tour.

Like, none of them are going to give you that much either. Like, you know, tiger was very emotional when he made puts, you know, to win tournaments, stuff like that. But I feel like up until that moment, you know, he, he just looked like he was going to beat you. And that's kind of what I feel like a lot of us try to aspire to be. Um, so I don't know. I just feel like it's, it's one of those things that has evolved over time as a way to try to get better. And I think it's kind of helped me through the last

year or so. Was it the 20 female story on the back of the 2019, the masters or any asked tiger,

something about his kids? Yeah, he didn't answer him. Like, oh, yeah, on the first hall, he said,

"How are your kids?" And said, "Good." Didn't answer his question. Oh, shit. He's going to win today.

“Yeah. Good. Okay. That's how it's going to be. Yeah. Good. Good. Um, last year I got for you,”

and then we're going to let you go. Um, kids was talking a lot last week about how this is the biggest person in all of golf. You want it. Uh, all of kids is also informed us that there's a little thing called Wad Wednesday today. Today happens to be Wednesday. Just have you checked your checking account today by chance. I haven't. Um, but honestly, I don't even know if I see where it goes. It, uh, yeah, I don't know. It's, it is a, it's obviously a big check. But to me, you know, in some ways,

we've been joking, like, you know, Kyle, Kyle played many tour golf, you know, one over in Qualified for the, the challenge to earn Europe. Um, and now all of a sudden, like, my ability to, you know, help him kind of make a living and, and, you know, start kind of a life of his own. Um, in that way is, is really rewarding. And we've kind of joked about, like, you know, the way that he's kind of, um, started to make some money, you know, caddy for me. And, um, I, I take a lot of pride in

that too, like he's one of my closest friends and to have a moment like that with him, you know, not only financially, but just to be there and do that with him, um, is so awesome. So it stands your question now. I haven't checked it, um, but, uh, you know, it's, it's, it's really cool to, to be a part of an event like that, you know, person or not. And, um, yeah, I suppose I'll find out if I got paid or not. I bet Kelsey knows. Well, I know you're busy. You obviously got, you got, uh,

quite the family. You guys are, are building over there. I'm sure you're exhausted from, come, quite the week, but, um, really awesome to watch. Just some really iconic moments that, you know, you walked us through a lot of them that T shot will go down a lot of people say it's like, one of, maybe all of the things considered the best T shot anyone's hit in the history golf. So it was really cool to watch. We love that tournament. We stand that tournament and for you to kind of

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Okshay Betea to the program. Let's go. Thank you. Thank you. What is it with you in the clutch

“gene with all these playoffs, my friend? I don't know. It's crazy, honestly, to think about all my”

wins being that way. Don't know, don't know, but we weren't clutching our playoff against Boston and TGL, but we were clutch yesterday in our hammer strategy. So, all right. Dude, hammer strategy is like everything in that. It's funny to look back from last year watching

a first couple of matches and your teammate as well. Tiger Woods just really for no rhyme or

reason throw in hammers left and right and then I feel like it kind of got like the can't lay effect where he was sort of had been the first guy. I felt like like crunched the numbers and they regained a huge advantage. Now, I feel like it is enormous knowing when to and when not to throw the hammer in this thing. Yeah. I mean, kids and I, I'm so pretty fresh to it, but definitely our hammer strategy is not been good up until the last couple of matches. We pretty much told Tiger that

he can hold it, but he cannot throw it when he wants. And yeah, now we, if we like, we're not going to lose the whole. We were throwing it pretty much, but the other times we were going to lose the whole and we still accepted or threw it. So, uh, happy to finally kind of flip the script there. Actually, I mean, I'm sure all of this is a whirlwind to you, 24 years old, plan on P.J.

“Tour, winning three times. You got all this cool stuff going on. Is it still surreal to you?”

Have that relationship with Tiger Woods? I mean, I know kids is incredible as well. We,

we pinch ourselves to be able to be partners with kids out here, but we all know tigers like this other level, this non, you know, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a mythical creature. Like, has it, has it settled in your brain like actually what you're able to do right now? I mean, yeah, I think it's obviously amazing like, um, to be around him is cool and like the amount of people that want to be in his inner circle, um, you know, it's just hard and just the opportunity to play for his team is

awesome. And I think now where he's gotten his life or, uh, his career, I think it's he's definitely been more welcoming than I think if we were still competing against him. So yeah, I mean, our team is definitely like a brotherhood, like I've gotten really close with Max, obviously kids and TK now, finally playing a couple matches, I've gotten closer to him. Um, but yeah, I mean, it's pretty surreal like the first time I ever met Tiger, I was as nervous as anyone, you know, but now it's like our

tech's exchange and like the fact that he's texting me after winning or just being in contention is pretty sick. It is sick. You guys have a funny team that I have. I got to know we at kids was just got a lot of like Tom Kim and you were both pretty young. Tom Kim, I feel like he's like

still, I mean, last time we talked to him on the pot, he had never been to a party before, like it is like

a collection of more than like three people who said that it is the first ever party. And then you've got kids and you've got Tiger Woods. It's a very funny team dynamic from like you guys get a bunch of different generations and Max. It's like it's wild. Yeah, I mean, we're just yeah, I'm going, I guess going through the uh different stages of a professional golf at this point. Obviously TK's a little younger than me and by no means you're a party like kids or Max when they were in school,

but it's definitely fun like the, yeah, just the vibes that we have. I don't know how to explain anyway. Any other way, you know, it's just it's electric. TK's, what's your viewpoint of Akshay, like that kind of that new, that new wave of these young golfers that are like taking the PGA tour by storm right now. A lot, like professionally I think Akshay's way mature beyond his years, like the first time my hung out with him playing golf probably was at TGL. I mean, I've known

the kid just from watching his name and watching him, but like he, he understands his like brevity or brain wave is more mature than 24 about how he handles his business and goes about himself professionally. And like I don't really see him as the little kid over there. He kind of just fits in with us now and you know, he laughs at how stupid we are and old, but he uh he's a ballerman and he's got like big balls that he's ready to go be put in the pressure cooker. He likes being in

the heat and we love that shit on our team and like last 90 makes that put with the hammer thrown

“out of which probably is the pivotal moment in the match and that's what he thrives on. I think”

that's why he's so good and playoff. I love, I want to talk about a little bit so I segue this way. I love his caddy hired. I think that's huge. I love Joe Griner and I just love the way he talks to you out there. I was watching some of that chasing Sunday from the players and like I was

need some of that in my life. So I think that's gonna be a huge help to his careers like having Joe out there that's uh older veteran guy, which is hard for me to say now, but like been there, but can still relate to the oxhase age. So I think that's gonna be a great team and um yeah,

“I'm just super impressed with just the way handles his his business his life is golf and uh comes”

in and still can have fun at 24 years old. Yeah, I mean it's impressive. I took to the Joe Griner thing. I know Joe pretty well um played a little bit of golf with them. There was one clip. I think it was you guys on 17 team and I didn't watch it on chasing Sunday but I was I saw it live on the broadcast. There was a moment he said something the effect of he was like you were like Joe yeah I think it's it's I don't know about hitting hard wedges. I think you like like a chip nine here and he just goes

no. And it made me like laugh out loud being like the balls in this guy to say that to his player. I thought that was very to kids' point. That was sort of like asserting and I feel like that's good for a partnership to have something like that. Yeah, I mean Joe has been a huge uh it's been very exciting to start working with him. I really wanted to work with him uh obviously when him in Max split last year and he was kind of the first guy that I was like man everything seems to

align like we're from the same town in California grew up playing the same municipal um to me Max and and Joe but they were obviously older and then like him being left handed like there are so many things where I was like this is a lining for me and so when my first talk to him he obviously went the other direction would call in which again totally understood and um but I

always was like this is kind of the it's like the girl you really really want but he's out of

your league and like you're just hoping for that one chance now. And so yeah obviously after the season I was gonna make a change and again like Joe was kind of floating and then all of a sudden I go to Memphis and I see him with Jake Navh I'm like are you kidding me like this isn't like never

“gonna happen get this chick man just yeah um but yeah I think like the thing that Joe and I”

have gone for us is obviously he's one of really hard golf courses which is you know it takes a lot I think that that's like the most impressive thing to me is he's just one at tough venues but he can feel shots you know it's feel lies and we kind of do get into phase where you were saying the same thing what club to hit and there are times like that you know that day it was you know I wanted to chip a nine hour and I hit so many different shots so it can be hard

in situations where it's like man is this really you know are you really gonna do this and

but yeah he just I think the way he communicates is amazing for me and it's funny like most of

my catties I've had I've really wanted to be like kind of with me all the time like watching me pot watching me hit ball sick videos all the stuff and Joe's kind of like saying hot like I don't think I've ever walked to the punty green and Joe's not talking to another player or cattie so it's a pretty different uh different vibe but he's a great person um yeah like young at heart but veteran cattie like kids said so it's pretty cool to have that and I'm really

“excited for Augusta because I think him seeing the golf course similar to me that's the most exciting”

part for us I think yeah I left you going into Augusta I mean we've talked about it forever you know obviously fills one there three times by the Watson's one there a couple different times you got to feel like you know there's some there's probably some comfortability comfortability around Augusta with a lot of those shots you know lefty that you get quite excited about yeah I think a lot of holes suit my eye uh like 10 I can slice and it's perfect like I can oversly sit there which is

amazing 12 obviously if I pull it it's covering if I push it it's probably still pretty good

so yeah a lot of shots I'm excited about I think there's just certain things that I think Joe will help me strategically that I haven't done great in the past um how to prepare better for a major so all these things I think just aligning hopefully properly and it's obviously still hard to win a major uh with the amount of pressure that we put on ourselves but um just going into it like kind of listening to him and having him kind of work me through the week is what I'm excited for

uh I want to talk about the putter you got the broomstick putter going I know you've chimed in with people online when people have written stuff post and stuff whatever it might be about the putter is it is it hard for you to block out the noise or do you not mind it seems like you don't mind kind of getting into the mix and defending yourself yeah I mean I don't care I know people do it for views uh I told uh rap and poor uh last week I was like I'd rather I honestly just take my

I'm not I'm not built like Adam Scott I'm not built like Lucas Clover and so yeah it looks like it touches my shirt but I had a great conversation with the rules committee last week and my integrity like I'm obviously have a lot of integrity on the on this sport um and so yeah people can say what they want to say if I wasn't playing well no one would say anything so again it's just people wanting to create noise and if they want me to go shorter then I'll just bend down more so

okay that doesn't matter to me yeah that's always been my takeaway is like you do it so you're doing

it on the biggest platform and you're like in these final groups and you're winning turns like of course you wouldn't be breaking the rules on my television as like in front of people spaces as they are expecting of course in your own brain you're like I'm doing it the right way it's just whatever it may look like to you like the integrity of yourself like you know you're doing it the right way so I've never really uh bought into any of that of that hate or or the people trying

to bring you down with that stuff it's like just just trust the guy he wouldn't be doing that if it was against the rules yeah I mean if you like if people started saying like the clog grip is cheating or like you know I'm saying it's like just a different version and I think Jordan

“talks about it last week like it's still a skill that you have to learn with the broom and you”

still have to be a great green reader like your speed and green reading has to be good like I

could anchor it and pull every pot and miss everything but it it's like I'm still a great green reader and I'm you know I have to have some idea of speed it's funny to me man like people on the internet I just don't get it like uh I don't know it doesn't make it doesn't make me upset but it's definitely like dude you have like other people to pick on or like this is like just dumb I'm winning dollar you should pick on me yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I've been playing a

little bit of golf last couple of months they probably got off me a little bit I'll go back to be in me and then they'll leave you a little bit okay I mean you need to be filled with broomsticks and if it's like if it's an automatic make-up yeah exactly that's what I was saying yeah why why it isn't everyone on tour do it if it's so easy like I hold Oxace putter I can't make it from a foot dude should be the number one sold putter in the world right so yeah get off Oxace nuts is

what this podcast with a two big you said and it's funny like Jordan talks about how he played with a couple guys and like they would arm lock and he went to the rules committee and he was like dude you can't miss doing arm lock like if you know the line in the speed like you can't miss rules official goes for you gonna do it and he goes no so it's like yeah that's easy

“you can make everything then so yeah it's definitely it's pretty funny you know I think I'm going”

to post a picture eventually of me with my shirt off and you know I'm going to go and I love that you love that you know like we did night last night I love that by the way Max click plan for it yeah plan for it are you did yeah we talked about Max was like I'm I want to do night night so bad and I was like I'm in but I started running the other way and he was just kind of staying there it's pretty funny it's so good I fell asleep right after y'all won and wake up to like miss face

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head to golfgalaxy dot com slash bar stool or to a dicks sporting goods house of sport or golf galaxy location near you sport play and skills train smarter play better I do I want to talk about Bayhill I want to talk about 16 is one of the more memorable shots from the entire year par five talked pin just kind of like right over the trouble on the left

“you know you're obviously a lefty I believe it was like a six iron from one 90 but talk”

talk us through a little bit you and joke is the time you know you're you're down a couple strokes internment you've been charging you made a long bomb just a couple of holes before but you've been kind of chased and burger been leading the entire time walk us kind of through that whole setting you and Joe and in hitting that shot yeah armor is one 90 the win was down like died at the time which is like so rare that week and that pin was like yeah I mean it was very impossible to get to

I was trying to hit a 25 30 feet right obviously flushed it pushed it it was high it was cutting and like part of me is like I've set that it didn't go in the way that with the cut spin and everything like how it didn't go in but at the same time to hit that shot with that amount of pressure was like unbelievable you know bug hit a great shot there like 20 feet and afterwards like you know I showed up to saw grass after like three or four people were like I couldn't even put it inside of three feet

let alone hit a six iron a three feet so yeah I mean that was like it was crazy like how good it was and like I don't know Joe told me hit the best six iron in your life right here like and I

“did like that was a crazy part that's what golf so nuts is like obviously I'm trying to hit it”

there but the fact that I have you know four five yards to work with and it lands within there just pretty surreal but I hit so many quality shots down the stretch you know 16 17 18 all great shots so this is kind of one of those things I feel like the more pressure I have the more

not shy away from that because I definitely did a couple times last year but yeah I would have

“surreal shot and definitely a memorable shot I think at Bay Hill for sure I mean Tiger has all”

those pots but you don't have that six iron so no you don't you don't you talk about the kids a little bit about like when you're chasing a guy you might have that regulator off of a bit do you feel that and do you feel like some of your best shots are coming in those moments because like you're hunting down that number you can kind of you know you could see blood in the water a bit you know like let's just go there it's just we we can go for the aggressive pins we

can go for the aggressor shot hit the best shot of your life now is you're not going to lose anything yeah it's interesting like I've had the roles reverse were Denny at Valero chasing me down you know birdie eight out of the last nine and I'm doing everything right

you know and that's in that moment but it's like it's just never let up and so

again I missed a two and a half footer on nine I was so pissed I and burger birdie to so now I'm five back the nine to go and I told Joe like I I was really pissed like I knocked one of the flags six out of the hole on the putting green go to ten I told him much to shoot four under the side we did it yesterday and yeah it's definitely like a less defensive kind of feeling because like Denny had four iron on ten then it had probably like a seven iron and I hit three would have

lob wedge and so that's like a the difference between leading and not leading and then yeah a couple things go my way I hit a couple great shots and then like one mistake and you know roles reverse right there it's like you go from a five shot lead to a one shot lead within 45 minutes of playing golf so yeah you don't let me on that mistake by the way crosshanded that pitch and didn't clip it in there I was awful I was impressing you because seeing you so loudly oh my god what

was I doing like like this is perfect like a low skipper and it goes like nip I knitted like what am I doing um but yeah it's definitely you know it's better to chase um but it's also you stuff to play great golf regardless of what position you're in you know I was trying to put as much pressure as I could and then he was hitting great quality shots it's just like you can tell when you're leading a golf ceremony you're a little more tentative trying to have

three pot certain things like that so yeah it's it's a nice to be behind and chasing and leading and you know just trying to hang on I uh we just we just had Dan Hicks on we were kind of talking a lot about golf broadcasting and one of my favorite results of how how much how far it's come is the is the shot tracer and I thought it was so cool that on 16 the shot we just talked about hit this high cut six iron and then the very next shot on 17 is you know one of the harder shots

of the day it's a mid-iron or so right pin so complete opposite pin and it just showed a completely

different ball flight from you this like penetrating draw it looked like like do you always feel

“pretty comfortable shape in it whichever way you need to yeah I would say I'm like a very I'm an outlier”

when it comes to being on tour how much I shape it definitely at times people said I've curbed it too much and I started to believe that and then I started playing worse and my ball striking has always been great because I feel like I can like I'm not afraid to hit longer clubs and curbed a lot and then obviously like a perfect six iron on 16 and then I hit a draw seven on 17 and the funny thing was on 18 in regulation I hit nine iron from 170 and then 30 minutes later the wind switch a

little bit same number pretty much and I hit seven iron so I'm just not afraid to hit different shots and it definitely makes it easy when you're on like you feel like you you're seeing everything and numbers are good and then you know I feel like I just can't hit it straight I it is impossible

“that's that's why I think like even in TGL I'm good because certain holes I can just like”

curve it a ton or whatever versus kisses like the one shot draw which sometimes the the screen can be you know picky on the day it's good and not I uh speaking of tracer that you've seen the replay of the playoff seven iron yeah bro everyone is freaking out like I shanked it in the toe stands down he I'm calling it I was like oh shit oh shit oh shit what I say to this one yeah that was crazy um no yeah the tracer they don't you know I shrieked like I shrieked when I was watching

a perfectly just it's fun to down like a freaking feather right the perfect spot you're like what just happened yeah this was funny oh then you had smiley you know we see the tracer then smiley immediately goes to this beautiful seven iron going right into the middle of the green and I'm like do what I thought he hit the stands over there yeah well where I thought maybe I didn't know where the green was you were I'm like I'm just seeing it wrong yeah that was funny like you're playing

a hole I'm not familiar with you know what the hell were they doing um yeah I feel like as a you

“know one of the younger guys coming up too I think you've done a good job actually if you know”

you've kind of leaned into you've done YouTube videos with some of the folks with the social stuff feel like you kind of is one of the younger part of the younger generation that stuff just kind of

comes pretty naturally too yeah I mean I've always been in love with social media that's pretty

much all I do if I'm not on the golf course and um I think it's just great to have you know junior golfers and fans like being able to kind of understand our lives a little bit more I think a lot of people can be very um to themselves and private which I totally understand but um it's funny how many people when I go to a tournament say you know when's this video when you're going to do a video like Bob just sports when you're going to do a video with Grant or whoever and and so

that's sort of the generation of you know us where it's going and so I love it again I rarely read comments sometimes I'll see some of the hate but 95% of it for me is like you know support and love so it's great for our brands it's great to showcase our our personalities more and I think that like TGL is great for that but also YouTube social media um you know it's just fun for for everyone to kind of see that view you point um of us players you like help kids learn how to use social

video maybe Tita need it I'm a bad boy you just need it kisses the man when it comes to team events kisses the man when it comes to TGL I mean he has so many iconic moments on the golf course

“shirt off I mean so many things that we remember so I think he's got a nice friend for himself”

yeah social might be too much for for kids to handle at this point you just got to give me a guy yeah we got to know we got to know we got to know we got to know we got to know kids what do you think about actually being able to deliver some pretty you know some pretty serious clubhead speed when he when he needs to I mean I know he you kind of mentioned earlier Shay but like you know you don't have the body of Adam Scott almost none of us do yet man watching you

just ripped through the golf ball is so fun like how'd you learn to kind of find some clubhead speed

when you need it I think it's just how I grew up as you know my frame I was never the biggest

I've put on some muscle put on some weight this off season so my I need to update my PGA tour I guess yeah because I'm like 140 pounds now so I've gained 10 pounds since I first got on tour but I think yeah I mean I've created speed through obviously I'm pretty elastic pretty flexible pretty strong like actually pretty lean not like not like scrawny I guess so obviously when it's really ways to think about when when you learn the when you have good mechanics and good rotation I mean I feel like

it it's easy for easier for guys to create speed I mean there's a lot of guys like blue clan

“traits 90 ball speed and he's 170 pounds 160 pounds he's not huge so I think just some mechanics”

of my golf swing help me create the speed and I'm getting faster you know I'm still trying to catch employees like 180 yes or I am just like it's a joke man to joke yeah to your point rigs I think like oxhase era grew up totally different like nobody ever told me to try to hit a golf ball hard maybe until like eight years ago like I was taught to like swing smooth keep it on playing hit its straight and these kids are growing up with track man and everything else and it's like who

can hit it the farthest will figure out a find it later so I think that's the big influx in speed and that's just how he was he grew up playing golf differently the me obviously he felt like you wasn't the biggest in me to hit it farther that it didn't matter if I play nobody I played with growing up hit it like 40 yards farther than the other person we all just kind of hit it the

same and that change is really like Tiger Woods was the first guy that I was like holy shitty

hits it along with that's a good first guy you know you had a good good amount of success with that not now I can hit it farther than to him I could only imagine if you said that to him what

Tiger Woods shit talker in the S.A. in the world I yeah I agree no one feels more comfortable than

kids makes me nervous just thinking about it me too I'm like okay as he's like on crutches kids is like like I can hit it farther than you take exactly like come on by on a man come out here and hit he had a driver for us now with all those plates and screws in you actually you got any masters preparation pre masters week coming up not really no I mean I've gone early which is great but golf person doesn't it just doesn't simulate how the tournament's gonna be I'm gonna go early Saturday

Sunday my coach can be inside the ropes which is nice Saturday Sunday so I'll go a little early

“but yeah I learned that I mean I think there's certain things that I'll work on at home”

short game downhill pots a lot of break so just small things like that that will help me get ready but I'm going to India next week so to be interesting you know how that all's gonna be going there and then hopefully support my boys on winning the finale so well the finals baby you had a great reaction when we were actually in the house for the Tom Kim ace and then kids coming up the next all we're here I couldn't lose and blow it and we I was like the day that we signed kids and brought

him on and all we were thinking actually was like this is our first real event with kids is like part

of our team we're so excited and he's gonna blow a sure victory where Tom Kim made an ace and then credit to him he got it done yeah that that was nuts that was nuts the wildest part

“she was like we went nuts for Tom Kim's and then like I kind of came back over our bag and I was like”

oh shit like I got a win this whole week I mean my whole thing was like I was watching we're down three to six and I'm like man I should have played and then all of a sudden max wins I'm like all right Tom holds out I'm like oh my god and then we get to this is it the

spear hole where you're shipping hybrid out there I'm like oh my god this is like

the worst hole for it to come down to but it was hilarious I heard I heard you were like you guys are really cheering me on for laying up with a five on they were like great shot kids great shots like I had a five hour and a 50 yard field but yeah I mean I knew you have the dog and you so I don't I was not worried especially where wind him hit it I was like

“kids has an easier shot than him you know yeah yeah for sure I told I told Max you know this”

so in our group Fred I was like if it comes down to 15 we're probably screwed tonight boys because I'm going to win them he's going to have five iron on the green and two and I'm going to have to have nine iron and get up and down but it all worked out here we are in the finals baby that's right got that dog in him unreal boys well I say it's been fun watching you come out you know come up hot on the on the professional golf scene that wind signature event you know

Arnold Palmer's place it was just the way you did it chasing him down playoff after playoff after playoff and then all over TGL it's just been fun to kind of watch it blow up on the golf scene here no appreciate yeah it's fun playing good as Kiznose and hopefully my next win is not an playoff because there's two stressful yeah I don't know we might as well make it a green jacket dude I know I got the card again now I'm just need yeah I need that green jacket so

and then your next picture on social media should be the card again with the green jacket over it correct I love it yeah no it should be the green jacket with no shirt and then and then I'll wear my Valero Texas boots yeah and then you can just and then your broomstick video just be green jacket no shirt exactly yep love that hell yeah alright brother thanks for coming dude I uh have fun in India I'll try to I'll try to hold down the fork for you while you're gone

all right I pre 8 ain't no hobby kids that's right baby keep making the lefty's proud out there man it's nice to see someone out there doing the damn thing thanks Frankie appreciate it all right sure thanks man we appreciate it