The Missing Book | The Walkers Ep7

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“When I was a child, I thought I was going to grow up to be a writer, and I'm really just thought”

I was going to have a book with a penguin on the spine of the book. But I'm going to do it right, and I just looked at me off a day and another afternoon,

and I never did write anything until I started to write the salt path.

The salt path was an accidental book. It was never written with the intention of being read by anyone but moth. This is the story Rayna Winn has told lots of times in interviews over the years. She wrote the book for her husband, whose illness she feared would eventually rob him of his memories of their walk.

So a couple of years after that walk was over. He began chronicling what happened along the way. I started to write it just for him, just so that I could create a record of that time. So when those memories really complete his script away, he'd be able to read it. Just a record of that magical time we'd spent.

And I printed it off on the home computer, on the printer. And I just tied it up with a swimming game for his birthday, and then my daughter read it before he did, you know, as kids do.

“And I said, "You know, I'm almost as bad as you should do something with it."”

And I said, "What do you mean, like, get a binder for it?" She's no idiot. Trying to get it published.

But how could I, you know, I'd never written anything.

The thing is, that's not true. Rainer win had written a book before. This investigation started with me trying to work out if Rainer win did what she claimed she did in the salt path, the true story of her life. I've untangled contradictory timelines, public statements are odds with private ones,

and followed a trail of people left bewildered and hurt by how their actions were depicted in her books. What I was left with was a grain of truth surrounded by a mound of fiction and exaggeration. But there was one mystery left for me to bottom out. In March 2012, faced with the prospect of losing their house in Wales, Tim Walker registered

a new company. Ganga and I publishing, the only ever published one book, a novel by an unknown writer called Izzy Wind Thomas, another alias of Sally Walker's. The genre was crime fiction, and it was called How Not to Dull the Dear, dulled the dear means "stand your ground" in Welsh.

So much of 2025 saw me scouring bookshops, trying to track this book down. I spent a lot of time on the hump for it in Wales, where the couple used to live. So, you know, we've been looking for this book, How Not to Dull the Dear. Steve Lloyd Wright owns a bookshop on the high street in Potheli. When he lived here back in the '90s and '90s, Tim Walker used to shop there.

It just happened to be in the news, and it's all the headlines, you know, the truth, the real truth story behind this open. And I was flabbergasted, and I stood there in the middle of the shop, just reading. And it was when I saw Tim's face that I thought, "Good grief. This is somebody I knew quite well."

“But, as for Sally, it was a bit of a mystery for me, I think.”

I don't believe I ever saw them together as a couple, obviously Sally only worked around the corner, because it's only 30 hours as the close flies to where she was employed by Martin Hemings. Steve knows all about the salt path. Successful book, like popular, people are asking for it, you know, I'd been recommended

by word of mouth, but... Did you read it? I, well, I started to read it when somebody said to me, of course there was a local connection. Apparently my investigation drove a spike in book sales. People wanting to see if they could work out truth from fiction.

Like those who've come to the book in the last few months, I never really got to engage

with the salt path emotionally, because when I got that tip off, I read it with a critical eye. And for me, all the way through, there were so many things that just didn't add up in the story. And as I was reading it, I found myself wondering, "Didn't anyone at the publisher penguin

raise any questions?" Sadly, Steve's never seen the novel I'm looking for, how not to doubt the dear, which

Tim didn't come into the shop as Steve, I've got this book, I've just published, since

“he did have a relationship with me, you know, why he didn't come along and say, "Can”

you, can you help us out with the sales of this book?" You know, there was no contact by Tim, which I thought was a little odd, I suppose, in hindsight. No dice, not in Steve's shop, not anywhere. This book has proved extremely difficult to find.

For months, me and other journalists I've been working with have tracked so many leads. No library has it, even in the archives. And the few people who've left reviews for it online that we were able to track down weren't able to find their copy. I was itching to get my hands on it, because I wanted to know how rain has created writing

compares to her memoirs. Could it provide more insights into the way this author understands truth and fiction, and the line that divides them? And while we're at it, where is the line between a version of our events that we've curated, and one that we've imagined?

I'm Chloe Hadjima Thé, and from Twitter's Investigates and the Observer, this is The Walkers, The Real Salt Path, Episode 7, The Missing Book.

When I started this investigation, I'd never read the salt path.

In all honesty, I hadn't even heard of it, but scores of people I knew loved Rainer Wins books, and their reaction to my reporting is varied. Some people have messaged me annoyed because they couldn't see what the big deal was. It's a memoir not a piece of news they said. It's the world as Rainer Wins sees it, so of course it wouldn't be the full truth.

And that was reflected in Rainer's first statement to the Observer. She said, "The salt path lays bare the physical and spiritual journey more than I shared, an experience that transformed us completely and altered the course of our lives. This is the true story of our journey, not the truth, but the true story."

“I remember it was in the summer, and I was on holiday with my family and Massachusetts,”

and I, for a day or so, I didn't really see them very much, so I was very, very gripped with by what you'd written, and very interested, and also very, very dismayed, and very upset because I cared deeply about memoir. My name is Clover Stroud, and I was a journalist for the beginning of my career, and then

my first book was a memoir called The Wild Other, which came out at approximately the same

time as the salt path. Since then, Clover's published another three memoirs, and she's in the process of writing a fifth. She's in a WhatsApp group with other memoirists, and when my story broke about how the salt path was full of inaccuracies, cover up and deception, that WhatsApp group lit up

as they all started furiously sending each other messages. There has been a lot of disappointment from other memoirists, and some anger, and shock, disillusionment, because what this scandal surrounding Rainer Winner's done is damaged trust in the genre more broadly.

“It's so important as a memoirist, that you have a kind of contract with the reader that”

you are, you're taking their hand, you're leading them into the landscape of your life. So when I read your piece, I did feel upset about what the salt path might do to the memoir genre. This interested me, because memoir isn't biography, and it isn't exactly a historical rendering of somebody's life, it's more nuanced than that.

Absolutely, and obviously, I'm not putting every single thing that's happening in my life into the book, because it would be impossible, and it would be very boring for the reader, and it would be very confusing, and it wouldn't create an interesting story. So there is an element, of course, where editing has to go on, and sometimes, in order to protect the anonymity of somebody else, you'll change some small details, which would

an event will be very different.

“The messy kind of amorphous thing called life into 80,000 words is an artificial process.”

memoirists always manipulate story, there's a careful selection of what to include, and

a shaping of the narrator that the writer wants the reader to get to know. But that says Clover, requires a level of emotional honesty. When I'm sitting down to write memoir, I am going very deeply into my internal psychological world, and if I'm not honest about what's happening there, then I'm undermining the reader, certainly, but I'm also undermining myself as a writer and as an artist.

But if you are hiding something, which suggests that there is a fundamental flaw in your character, and I would say that embezzlement, and I wouldn't have married my husband if he'd embezzled something.

It's a really serious, it's a really serious flaw, and the salt path was written as a sort

of consequence of those actions. The story had been presented as they were the people who'd been hard done by, and so when we find out that that might not be the case at all, it undermines every other part of the story, every other interaction that they have. But if an author isn't honest, how can a publisher know, how can they be expected to

do what I did? To dig into someone's past and try and work out what is an isn't true in an author's story about their own lives, if someone writes a book about flying to Texas in the US and writing in rodeos and then flying to Chechnya to ride horses there, as Clover has done, it's taken on trust, no one's going to ask her for proof that she did these things, or asked

to look at the flight manifests. But when I found out that any one can publish a memoir without any real questions about the story it contains, I was pretty shocked. Maybe that's because I'm in a very similar business. I take true stories, things that have really happened and stuff people have said, and

I construct a narrative for the listener. But my work is checked and checked again by a whole raft of people. My producer Matt, my editor Jasper, and others on the team, and then our lawyer will rakes through all of it line by line. I need to be able to explain everything I'm publishing here.

“What were the fact checking processes for memoirs when you were at Pegwin?”

It isn't really a sort of fact-checking process for memoirs within publishing, mostly they're just taken on trust. Amelia Ferney spent 30 years in publishing, working in publicity for Penguin. She didn't work in the division that published the sole path, but she's the closest I could get to someone from Penguin who agreed to speak to me.

It's not the first time non-fiction books have been found to contain fabrications.

In other similar cases, publishers have apologized and even offered to issue refunds. At the time of recording this, which is six months after my initial article, Penguin's website is still describing the salt path as "unflinchingly honest and true." But they have made a statement saying that no one ever raised any concerns about the books content, and they said they believed they'd undertaken all the necessary due diligence

before releasing the salt path, including a contract with an author warranty about factual accuracy and a legal read, which is standard for most works of non-fiction. That just means the book would have been looked over by a lawyer before its publication. I can talk about this stuff now because I'm no longer in the industry, but I'm willing to bet you have not found many people still within the publishing industry who will say

any of this because it's very difficult for them.

“It's very difficult to be a lone voice saying, "Actually, I think some of these medical”

claims are overblown in this manuscript by our multimillion copy selling star author." That's really difficult, but why isn't this coming from the top, I guess, is my question. When there is such a massive scandal, and it takes penguins reputation, you would think that these changes might be sort of mandated from the very top. I think I can only speculate about this, and obviously there is the financial imperative,

your investigation actually sent the salt path back to the top of the best cellar charts. So in terms of the publisher's bottom line, I helped book publishing has a slightly

industry, so there is a lot of pressure to publish a lot and fast.

“There's a small percentage of books which make the vast majority of money for publishing”

houses, you know, 20% of your output is providing you with 80% of your revenue. This makes sense to me. Otherwise, it's hard to explain the apparent lack of questions from anyone at Penguin, particularly about Reina's increasingly outlandish claims about Moss reversing his terminal condition.

Remember in her third book, she says that walking a thousand miles made Moss's disease vanish, a brain scan showed he had a normal brain. That's difficult to swallow if the illness has been misrepresented in a way that has offered anybody suffering from that condition false hope. When I first started in publishing, for a very small publishing company 30 years ago,

I do recall that whenever a book included any kind of medical information, it was always

read by a doctor.

“I think that that's something that should be standard really.”

The fact that she was such a hugely important author to the publishing house, you know, there may have been an element of reference that came into that relationship where the editor perhaps felt uncomfortable, challenging, the author. I think that, you know, when you want to publish a book that you believe will make you money, sometimes that critical thinking gets suspended.

So in the salt path, interestingly enough, it has a disclaimer at the front, which has the usual copyright aspects to it. But then says, this book is a work of nonfiction based on the life of the author. In some limited cases, the names of people or detail of places or events has been changed to protect the privacy of others.

The author has stated to the publishers that accept in such respects the contents of this book are true. Any medical information in this book is based on the author's personal experience and should not be relied on as a substitute for professional advice. The author and publishers disclaim as far as the law allows any liability arising directly

or indirectly from the use, misuse of any information contained in this book. That is a heck of a disclaimer.

“That's the most unusually detailed disclaimer, I think I've ever come across.”

It's not a standard disclaimer then. No, that certainly seems as if there's been some legal advice to include that level of detail in the disclaimer. Years before Penguin bought the salt pass before anyone had ever heard of the author Rainer Win.

Early Walker was enticing readers under her first literary persona, Izzy Win Thomas.

In those days, readers who came across her novel How Not to Dahl the Dear were encouraged to purchase it directly from the publisher's website. The publisher being the company the couple had set up themselves in Wales, Gangarni publishing. And on the company website, prospective readers were offered an intriguing enticement for every copy they bought, they'd be entered into a free prize draw with the chance to win a

housing Wales. And there's a picture of the house on the website. It's the same property, Sally and Tim eventually lost. The prize draws terms and conditions say the house is being offered free of mortgage or any other legal or registered charge.

In fact, at this point the couple had a mortgage with a bank of 230,000 pounds in addition to the loan that Sally had borrowed against the house to get herself out of criminal charges, which was by then around 150,000. So 380,000 pounds in total. According to my calculations, this scheme, to raise enough money through the book to cancel

out their debts, would only have worked if Sally and Tim were able to sell more than 60,000 copies of the book.

I haven't been able to find out how much money was raised from this enterprise, but Raina

“Winner since said that when they realised their scheme wouldn't work, they reimbursed”

people their money. Scouring libraries and shops in Wales, I had this feeling that the book might just be a few meters from where I was, just sitting on a bookshelf somewhere. All books 50p, oh there's quite a few and Welsh. But having spoken to a local printer, it seems likely that only around 250 copies were

ever made, so it was beginning to feel like I'd never get my hands on one.

Do you met Sally Walker and Tim Walker before? Uh, only when they came to the shop with um, uh, copies of how not to doubt a dear. Sally Walker had brought some of the copies of her novel to this Welsh language shop in Pulfelie. She thought, caught a couple of pieces themselves and then came back in a while to pick

them up, as they had been sold. Like a couple of weeks later, they hadn't sold a single copy here. But the couple hadn't left any copies behind either. Hi James? Hello.

Hi. I am good. I'm finally in Cornwall.

“James Erkart is a freelance journalist who's been helping me with this investigation.”

He spent months scouring online sites looking for the novel, trying to trace everyone who had ever reviewed the book online. And he had no luck. Sorry, can I interrupt you quickly, because I'm really glad you called. Um, I've got a bit of news myself.

Um, and I want to tell you that we signed the book. Huh? No. You're kidding me. You're kidding me.

You're kidding me. No. We signed it. Wow. Why?

Where was it? It's sort of, uh, a colleague looked into it and she contacted a Welsh language and heretic centre in Gwyneth, but they didn't have a copy. But while they were on the phone, the person at the centre looked online and saw a copy for sale on US Amazon, uh, and weirdly, the seller was a company based in Redding.

Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. That's nice. Have you, there's going to be so hard to concentrate and do anything else today.

When I finally have the book in my hands, I was surprised at how professional it looked.

It's properly bound with a greenish marble cover. There's even a review from a fake Welsh newspaper splashed along the front. The workers had just made it up. I devour the whole book within a couple of days and then I was dying to talk about it. So I called James again.

Hello? Hi James. Sorry. How's it going? Yeah.

Right. Are you? So I've finished it. Oh, have you? What do you think of it?

I think. It's a memoir. In a way. I agree. It's kind of...

From a confession. Yes. Yes. Confession is a better term for it. I think that's right.

Or rather than confession, like a justification. Or in the attempt at it. I mean, it's kind of bonkers. The novel tells the story of an itinerant couple. It's a story of an artist and a gangster who, with their two kids, moved to a small

holding in Wales. I mean, it's obviously that house. The description of it fits perfectly. The other thing that I thought, you probably noticed this, but is a total giveaway.

“I think in terms of whether or not the teaming characters in the book are Rainer Win and”

Martha, Sally and Tim Walker.

There's this bit where she describes the first time the female

protagonist meets her partner, her husband. I'm just going to read it to you. This is page 13. It's right at the beginning. She was 17 when she watched Backster a cross-accrowded cafe

Hang on. Page 56 of the salt path.

The first time I saw him lost.

The sixth form college canteen. I was 18. He was wearing a white collar shirt as he dipped a Mars Bar in a cup of tea. I was mesmerised. Well, I mean that's kind of conclusive that.

I think that's the same people. Rainer Win has this handful of stories. She tells again and again, using almost identical language. And this is one of them. We met when we were teenagers.

“I remember I was sitting in a college canteen.”

And it was really busy day.

But as I looked up across the canteen,

it was this young man in a white shirt. And just at that moment, I saw him. He dipped a Mars Bar, a chocolate bar, in a cup of tea. In the novel, the couple have invested in their friend's company. Not Cooper.

Instead in this book, he's called Jeremy Smyth. But it feels like he's based on the same person. Smyth takes up around half the novel. Posing as a businessman, he cons people out of money, including Baxter and Elias.

Baxter's emotionally devastated by the theft. He can't cope with the fact that all their money is gone

“and that it's his fault for investing it as he did with his friend.”

Meanwhile, his wife, Elias, has found work with a local estate agent property surveyor. Not Martin Heming's, in the novel, he's called George Penfold, and he's a bit of a con man. So Elias hatches a plan. I found it really hard to read the chapter

where she describes stealing money from her employer. Yeah. It just seems suddenly she's doing paperwork and then goes to London and you're not really sure what is going on. And then you realise what's happened when you get to,

I'm going to find this hang on. There's a chapter in between, and then it says, "It talks about the police breaking into the house. It's the police, Ellie, what do they want?" Ellie knows, here at last, she's been waiting for this moment.

“How she, the will to go ahead, can she hold her nerve?”

No choice, no way back now. And then the bit that I find really crazy is, I mean, it says, Ellie knows why they're here. This is about the police. And then the police says to her,

"I'm DCI-lawed of the Northern CI-D region. I'm here to arrest you in connection with allegations made by Mr. George Penfold, who's her employer, who is, I believe, based on Martin Heming's. allegations of deception and theft. And then it says, "Just remember Ellie, remember this is for him."

So she is saying all the way through this chapter, as she's being arrested and taken down to the police station. And afterwards, she claims somehow that she's done this for her husband. This idea runs throughout the book. The main female character Elias is cleverer than anyone else,

and her only motivation. The thing that drives her is making things right for her husband backster, who is essentially falling apart because he can't cope with the mess they've made of their finances. Elias is somehow able to prove that their friend Jeremy Smythe has been calling lots of people out of money. She runs from the police down to London and black males smithe into lending her the money

to pay back her employer and Wales. And even though he's being forced to give her the money, Smythe insists that the loan is made against her home, which he then reposes. Sound familiar? During this investigation, I managed to get hold of an early manuscript of the salt pass

back when it was still called lightly salted blackberries. There aren't a huge number of differences with the published version of the salt pass, but one striking omission is that there's a lot more detail in the original version about Cooper. Rainer's editors at Penguin, or perhaps their lawyers, had stripped out a lot of information about the business deal that went wrong, and her evident venom towards their old friend.

There's another difference that struck me between the early manuscript and the published book. In the original version, when Rainer's sitting in that doctor's office,

and they get the devastating news about Moss's condition, her first thought is that it's going to be like when she watched her mother die.

Eventually, her death does feature, but in Rainer's second book, The Wild Silence.

“All this does suggest some kind of editing process at Penguin.”

One of the bits that really reminds me of the salt pass is how this book, this novel, Ennis, which is essentially almost identical to the sort of salt pass premise, which is they lose their home, but she's quite happy to give it up, because she's realized that her husband is her only real home. Yeah, exactly. She's kind of a love triumph at all.

So much of the action in the novel was reminiscent of the real story I'd uncovered in Wales.

“It's interesting to think that she wrote this book pretty much when these events were happening in terms of having the house being,”

having a charge against the house and the blenders writing the money back. It seems like she's created this fictional version of how she wants the reality to be. She's the victim, not the criminal or perpetrator. I mean at this point in the investigation, we're looking at her fiction book being closer to reality than her memoir. Yeah, unless that's really weird.

In memoir, there's a pact with the reader that you don't have with fiction. And that pact is that the narrative, the stakes, and even the internal emotional journey the narrator takes the listener on, may be filtered, but they're grounded in reality. And when facts start falling apart, we start questioning the spiritual and emotional truth of a book too. There's no doubt that Sally Walker is an author and a creator of stories, and maybe that's her skill as a creator,

not just a book's book of new personas, because somewhere along the line, she left behind the mess they seem to have made of their lives in Wales, and she invented Reina Win and Moss. And then, Sally Walker wrote a book for her characters, The Salt Post, not about their lives as they were, but about their lives as she wished them to be. Opus Day is a controversial Catholic group known for its orthodoxy and discipline.

There's always been an idea in August day of trying to be near the elite of society.

I'm Antonio Cundee. I'm a journalist with the Financial Times, and I've been investigating how Opus Day has become central to the American Conservative movement. We were the closest tabernacle to the White House. From the Financial Times, listen to Untold, Opus Day, wherever you get your podcasts. I have had lots of friends who are kind of confused by the revelations that I've published, because they can see that Reina Win now is a multimillionaire. And they wonder whether she's a kind of scam artist who set out to get rich by publishing this book of lies.

No, no, I don't think it wasn't, I'm sure it wasn't a deliberate scam, because publishing a book is too hard away to make money. And it wouldn't be the most straightforward of scams with it.

“I think like I said, I think Reina Winner's a great storyteller, and somewhere along the way, the storytelling, unfortunately, seems to have overtaken the truth.”

There's a story I've heard about the first time JK Rowling's publisher took her for lunch.

This is before Harry Potter had made it onto the shelves. He warned her that the thing with children's books is that you never make any money from them.

These days, Reina Winner's a multimillionaire having published three hip books sold the rights to a film, offered writing courses, charged for speaking appearances, and toured with a folk band, to name, but a few of her ventures. It isn't possible to deliberately make up a best-selling memoir, Sally Walker stumbled across the formula accidentally, but then she chose to write a second and third book, both based on the same deceptions, and both those books reached the top of the Sunday Times bestseller lists too.

Had I not published my investigation, John might have gone on to read the wild silence and then landlines, and he might have gone on to believe that walking a thousand miles could cure him.

“And where was Penguin during all this? They might be forgiven for taking the first book on trust, but what about the second and third books as Reina made increasingly incredible claims?”

Certainly the message Reina was receiving along with her accolades and literary awards was that truth doesn't matter all that much. People increasingly are not believing anything that they're told, and in fact the spread of misinformation is not necessarily about getting people to believe something that's not true.

It's about causing people to lose trust in anything that they read, in any information that they encounter, and I think that people do trust books.

“You know, if something is printed in between bound covers, I think the general public does still trust those words, and I personally think it would be a huge shame to jeopardize that.”

It's a shame, it's a shame for the industry. Reina wins publisher says her story is unflinchingly honest and true. It's not. Since I started this investigation, lots of fans of the saltpath have contacted me.

Some to say the books depiction of the English coastline filled with beauty will continue to resonate even after my revelations.

For these fans, the meaning of Reina's story is less about the details and more about the bigger message. For more people have been in touch to tell me their hearts went out to the couple because they were blameless victims of fate. For them, Reina wins apparent perceptions mean the saltpath isn't the story they thought it was.

“And that's what's really sad I suppose about this story is because this nice story about good people who had something awful done to them is just another story actually of people behaving badly.”

And that's what's really sad about it because it sort of makes you, you know, question your faith in human beings. I think the fact that we want to believe in, we want to believe in redemption, we want to believe in a happy ending. There's nothing wrong in that. I don't think we can judge anybody for wanting the happy ending. It's just that life doesn't really work like that. The power of a true story lies in the fact that it promises to tell the reader something real about what it is to be human and about what's possible.

We're deep enough into the post-truth world to know that if the idea of truth is missold, then the whole idea of truth takes a knock. And people don't just read and watch the saltpath, they act on it, people with hopes and people with health problems. Sally Walker might have been blindsided by the fact that her inaccurate memoir became a blockbuster, but she chose to perpetuate the deception. To pull off her heist this big and if it is what you think it is, it is a huge heist which is taken in millions of people and, you know, cost the amount of money that's kind of swirling around the saltpath in terms of publishing is huge and it's a big deception to pull off.

The crazy thing is, Sally and Tim Walker's true story, the story I uncovered, is intriguing. It's a story she could have written about how this couple got into financial trouble and under pressure, Sally might have ended up doing things she'd later regret. And as a result, this terrible thing happened, they lost their home and had to rely on family. Maybe taking walks during this time helped them come to terms with their past and allowed them to draw a line under all of it. Granted, it's a different story to the one in the saltpath, a much messier one and the characters aren't as perfect, they have weaknesses and flaws, but they're human. And that's just the thing, real life is fascinating enough, but you don't need to make it up.

On her website she goes on to say, "In desperation, we briefly tried running a book-based house raffle, like others had done, but quickly realized it was a mistake as it clearly wasn't going to work.

“We cancelled it and refunded the few participants.”

As with most people's lives, there will always be someone willing to criticise you. That's part of life. However, it is a great source of sadness that tortoise media's observer is now seeking to drive a wedge between our family members.

The family have always been able to share their concerns privately and they still can. I did not steal from family as others can confirm.

“Nor have I confessed to doing so and I did not write the letter suggesting I did. We are accused of hiding behind pseudonyms.”

This is blatantly untrue. Like most, we use these nicknames alongside our legal names. The legal names we use on our bank records are utility bills, etc.

Our friends and neighbours use sell and tin into changeably with ray and moss. There is nothing hiding in our names.

Thanks for listening to the walkers, the real salt path. It was reported by me Chloe Hadjima Thayer with additional reporting by James Erkart. The series producer was Matt Russell. Music seep a vision was by Carla Patella and the sound design was by Tom Birchill. The editor was Jasper Corbett. Thanks for listening to the walkers, we hope you enjoyed the series. You can listen to more of our investigations right here on Tourism Vestigates. As well as access to all our podcasts, your subscription also gives you access to our premium food and puzzles newsletter.

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