The Blake Griffin Episode

[music] [music] [music] See it is sweet! Look at this guys!

This is our first ball we're... Yeah. Are you intimidated? No. I mean this is me at home. This is your dream. This is my dream. This is...

[music] Are you ready? That was just outside. I thought we were going to go to bed. I thought we were playing. That was really good.

Hey, she's got a script. She's got a script. That was a great script. Thanks for having me. Sorry, this is what... Oh, groupie. Oh, yeah. I like Griffin's one of the best dunkers in the history of the basketball. I really need this. Doing things like... I've been doing this for a long time.

Were you ever scared to take the shot? I love this one. [music] Can we just show the fuck out for a second? Get up. Come this way.

You're like walk right by you.

“Ooh, pussy can't guard you. Who are in the three of us?”

Okay. [music] Dude, you're so funny. I just picked it up from the... Yeah, it's just sitting outside organically.

This is not here for you. No, he travels with a ball. He's dirty with a ball. Yeah, sorry. No, he has a ball. Oh, that'll be a fun.

That is a fun game. That's a fun game. That'll be a fun game. That'll be a fun game. Perfect guy.

Why is the showcase how tall you are? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like the perfect guy. How tall are you? I don't know.

Five four. No, no, no. I think I'm five six. Can you touch his feeling just standing? Yeah, we got that.

Wow. You got some dust. We got some dust. [laughter] We got that.

Do you want some water or anything? Yeah, whatever. That means we're going to be great. Like the top? Water?

Water is great. So you're conscious, like any time you're walking. Do you know what?

You know, I've never had to think of anything.

Never. Never. There's never any. What about like, you know, you go to like a castle in the right way. No, no.

You're not like, no, no. I can't go anywhere. Before you came, Benny was asking. He said, do you think Blake has been the best player of his friends since he was like, like, my age five eight.

No, no, no. That's not what I said. Okay. I said, were you born exceptional? Or were you like, did it?

“Like, when you were five, were you just like every other kid shooting?”

And they were like, oh, and then like, did you get exceptional? Was there like one year where like you became exceptional? Um, I don't know. Like, so my dad is a basketball coach. High school basketball coach.

So like, I've just been an older brother who played. Like, I just, I've had a ball in my hand since I could like before. I could like, before I could walk, you know? And then like, start dribbling super young. So like, I think maybe like a little bit like advanced, but not like you wouldn't walk into a gym to like, oh my god.

That's what I'm saying. Like, that's like that. What age was it? I think like, maybe when I was young, like ten. I have a 12-year-old son right now.

And he's like, I think we're kind of like comparable. You go watching play and he's like, you're like, oh, it's good. But you're not like, it's, it's hard. Like when you're like 12. Like the 12-year-old kid's son?

Yeah, 12-year-old son. Yeah, 12-year-old son. You were like, oh my god. I'm like definitely the mission one player. I'm like, no, 12.

Not in my mind. I was tall. I was like a foot tall in everybody, but like, I don't know. Like you're playing against kids in your area. Like I wasn't traveling.

Like this morning, this morning, I saw a video online. Of the number one fourth grader. See, I hate those like number one fourth grader. Much harder, yeah. It's yeah.

And also like kids. I don't know. I saw a video online. Of the number one fourth grader. See, I hate those like number one fourth grader.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and also like kids. Some kids are just bigger earlier. Yeah.

Like there was a kid growing up who was like my height in like third grade.

And he was really good. And everybody talked about how he's the best player in the state. He didn't, he stopped growing like seventh grade. Yeah, yeah. And he was, he ended up being like six one, which is like, isn't short.

But like, that's you know what people thought he was going to be like. The next greatest thing. And you know, like, I don't know.

“I think it like messes up kids like psyche.”

Because they don't follow sports quite like me. No, no. He's like a savant. But I went to a lot of clippers games when you were playing. Oh, nice.

I'm sitting. Thank you. What? Lob city. Not that big.

Oh. [LAUGHTER] Well, there's no Lob city branding in the arena, you know. Yeah. So there must be a lot of events.

I don't think they don't think they can. They call Lob city because basically he played with Chris Paul who's like really good authority. No, I remember Chris Paul. No, Blake Griffin's one of the best dunkers in the history of basketball.

Dunkers. I wouldn't even label you a dunker like that. I mean, I could speak to him. I could speak to him about your game at nauseam. [LAUGHTER]

I'm like, what's wrong with you? Because you're like, you're like, so like God made you like too perfect. There's got to be something wrong with you. Like you're like, you're like, you really need to do this. He's like, I'm not just like, I know.

He's like, you're like the hottest guy in like the best of playing basketball. And you're like, and you're like, and you're like, find out who's the most of your like, funny to. Yeah. What's wrong?

Is there something like really wrong with you?

You have like four, three toes or something?

Yeah, I got some demons. Yeah, yeah, what are your demons? I don't know. I don't really, um, do you have demons? Um, I don't know.

I feel like I was just so like, as an athlete, like you can't really like focus. Yeah. You know? Like you have to be so like locked in.

So like, does, has your world totally been rocked since you've retired and you're no longer doing it? No, because I kind of like, I started preparing for it pretty early. And like, just like doing other stuff, you know, I started production company in 2016.

Yeah. I really don't have a VC font. Like, so as soon as I retired, I like stepped into all that. So that helps. Also like, I was just like, do I had nine surgeries?

Like, like, you know, yeah. So I was like, I was feeling it. Yeah. Like, I feel great for just living life. But like, to go play at 82 games schedule,

it was like, working out and recovery, like, was like 70% of it. Yeah. You know? Do you feel free or not?

Because like, when you're playing an athletic sport,

“like that, do you feel like you have to like eat well, sleep well,”

and you can't live your life. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Because like, I would get like anxiety about if I woke up.

I have a problem with like waking up and not being able to go back to sleep. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. And like, if it's a game day, the next day,

I would be like, I would have like, you know, like, you have like, sleep anxiety. You know, like, where are you like taught, and you'd be like, oh, shit. Like, okay, I could get two hours of like about to sleep now.

Or like, yeah. But it all, it all, at over time, like you learn how to like, deal with that, you know? But I can't imagine, like, I couldn't sleep last night, but I can take little things to help,

but I can't imagine not being able to sleep and having to go like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just part of it.

Yeah. Like, is there ever like, before like the day before, do you like, Richard is like, don't touch like, like, I can't have sex the day before. I can't do this the day.

Like, is there like, yeah, you're like, my rookie year, I used to like, be very, very strict about everything. And then like, over time, I kind of learned where I could, because you would burn yourself out. Yeah.

You know, like, one year I was like, I'm going to eat so strict. And I went like three months of just like, literally nothing bad. Yeah. No alcohol.

No alcohol. No, like, very little sugar. It was like, dude, and I fell off the wagon, like, three months in this season. And not drinking water.

But like, I just, I kind of started eating shit, like, shitty. You know, I go to like the hotel, like, mini barn. I've like, peanut mnms and like, you know. That's, you know, acting your next game.

Yeah. Did you notice a difference? Not really. So it's like, fuck. So like, then from then on, I was like, okay, moderation.

“Like, if I, like, after a game with him, like, you know what?”

I want pizza. Oh, you piece. So you're like, working out all day. I know. But like, it was like, what's the biggest thing that would impact a game?

Like, what's like the biggest difference between, like, this is, it's like, obviously, honestly, and what if you get in a fight before, like, like, like, like, - Like, no, no, you're like, - With your signature and others,

- You're like, your parents say it, someone says, "Is that affecting you?" - You've been in times where like, something's like going on in my life, and I'm literally like at the free-tho line,

and like pops into my head. And I'm like, all right, you shake that up. You know what I mean? - I love it. - And I don't think people think about that,

'cause like, some guys are having like, guys you're having shitty days and like, listen, we're playing a game in guys, you get paid to play it, so it's like, it's all fine. But like, also like, sometimes, you know,

guys are allowed to have bad days. - And I tell you one of my biggest pet peeves every time I would go, I went to the games a lot with someone, and they, I forget the player's name,

but every time he was a Paul, - No, every time he would go to do the free-tho. - No, for free-tho. - For free-tho? - Was it me?

- No, it wasn't you. - It wasn't you, but-- - Oh, hack-a-shock. - No, what's his name? - Oh, gee, I'm drank your life.

- Yes, oh, oh, I did. - They would mess with him, and I felt like I could feel the pressure, and I would just, but everyone needs to chill out. - Oh, it's so.

- It was John. - Yeah, it's actually. - Yeah, it's actually. - That part of the game. - She thinks it's completely unsportsable.

- It's like the name, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - Oh, yeah, I totally hate it.

“And I think, it doesn't matter which team you're on.”

I'm like, let them, you can like, do it outside, but when everyone is trying to play, like make me cry. - Yeah, it is. - Interesting 'cause like sport, professional sports, especially, is so much like fine, the weakling.

- Yes, yeah. - Yeah, it's so weak. - Yeah, it's so weak. - But it's like-- - That's competitive.

- It is like the highest level, and like, you know, I don't know, like Deonja was so good at other things. - Yeah, yeah. - That was like, yeah. - And it's like, we didn't look at it, like,

oh, I don't know. - They worked with things. If everyone would just like calm down for a second. - Okay, hey, can you just chill for me? I'll be saying it, I'm trying to make this figure.

- I know. There's like so much pressure. Like I think like, I play in like a wreck league with my friends every weekend. And if I like, like, like, if you measure my first couple shots,

you feel weird shooting your third one. - Yeah. - Like, like, I put too much lotion on my hands a lot. - Yeah. - Or like, yeah, like, ass itches, I'm like,

I'm like, like, something, like, anything-- - And all of a sudden, like, I'm a great wreck recklessly player.

And then, so I would always assume I would dominate

celebrity games. Like, I don't know if that was born to just-- - Yeah. - But I also had never really, like, played in an arena where, like, just felt the way that my kids did.

- Yeah.

- And I never sure, I was like, you know,

this is like being like, filmed in a certain way, and just like, you can't, it's not meaningless. So, as soon as I got one of these games, I realized how, it's such a different level of pressure. - So, as every NBA player, like, who you're like,

oh, that guy sucks at shooting, like, they're like, if they're on their own, like, in a gym, they're making, like, every shot.

“- Yeah, because you have to think about, like,”

first of all, there's really good shooters on teams and there's guys that aren't as good and there's guys that aren't with shooters, but also, like, you're shooting every day. Like, even if you're not a shooter, you're shooting every day.

And like, you've got, you'll see the things that them go on to, like, pick up games and, like, make it. - Like, so, the pressure's different, you're not as tired, you're not having to worry about the defensive end, you're, you're just like, a lot of variables.

- What's the deal with traveling?

'Cause it always kind of looks like you guys are traveling.

- Oh, yeah. - It's gotten to the butt too. - It's got pretty lags, so now, like, the rule is that, like, when you take a, oh, sorry, when you take a dribble, oh, I thought you were traveling for a game.

- Oh, I thought you were, I thought you were not. - Oh, I thought you were not. - I thought you were not. - I don't really know anything about basketball. - I like basketball. - But when I watch, I'm like, the only thing I know.

“- I know, I'll look like traveling. - You can't travel.”

- Yeah. - So, I don't understand it. - Now, you can take a dribble and your first step, it's called zero step. - Oh. - So, your first step is not really your first step. So, if I, if I dribble and take this step,

I still have two steps. - Wow.

- Yeah. - Did they change that?

'Cause they were like, this is too hard to manage. - I, it wasn't like a, it wasn't like a, hey, we're changing it to this. I think it just slowly happened because everybody was like, yeah.

- Yeah. - And guys are so, their footwork is so good, so you can make it look really seamless. - It's seamless and also cover a lot of space. - Yeah, it's like you take some stuff across the foot. - That's where like I'm seeing it as well.

- Carry, carry, carry, yeah. - Back in the day, like, every guy used to dribble like this, they'd be like, like, there was no, like, there and then, like, eventually, guys. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And now, people take it under.

- Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - And I was like, one of the best, and he would be really, he really, kind of like, invented certain, like, cross. So, he kind of like, invented, like, the hezzy, like, what became the hezzy?

- No, Tim Hardaway. - Tim Hardaway, yeah, yeah. - Tim Hardaway, yeah, yeah. - Tim Hardaway, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, Tim Hardaway, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That one was like, the, yeah. - No, you know what I really loved was watching your game,

just to fall off. - Oh, thanks, man. - I think about the story. - Are you sure? - You're like, Griffin. - I'm from Detroit.

- Well, no, I was born in Gross Point, but I'm lived in Grand Apples, right? - Yeah, okay. - You like it there? - I actually enjoyed it. Like, I was like, I was like, I'm from Oklahoma,

so I kind of reminded me more about, like, where I'd space in a house and like neighbors weren't like right on top, you would like, I enjoyed that part of it, 'cause during the season, I don't really like go out much anyway. I would just be like--

- Even back when you were young in the prime of lobster, and I was like, you're playing every other day. - So like, yes, there are some times where it's like, hey, you got the off next day, and so we'll go to dinner, we'll go out.

But like, not regularly. - But we moved to LA, like, your complete social life chain.

“Like, every guy's fighting to play for the Clippers or Lakers, right?”

- No, nobody wanted to play for the Clippers or I got there. - Well, no, not, yeah, yeah, of course. When it turned the franchise around, of course. But now, but I'm saying like-- - Well, this is like a real self-esteem group.

I mean, I ain't coming out more, I hope so. - When you're in Detroit, it's like, okay, I'm in Detroit. When you're in LA, you-- - Well, I know if it's at least-- - I don't know if it's true, if it's true, if it's true, if it's true.

- It's been a year, since you've seen it before. - Of your staff, or before. I don't think I really-- I just-- I just-- I just-- I got to think I worry about chairs all the time. I've been at a wedding and like, set now and-- [laughing] - You know, I-- - You don't weigh a lot. - I know, but still, it's a very long time. - What are you talking about? It was 260 pounds. - Okay. You're in Detroit. It's like, okay, cool. We're going out to like, whatever, like, the local bar club. - Detroit's a popping-- - Cool. - You're like, talking about-- - You're in LA, you like, like, your world, like, I remember like, I remember seeing some of them, because I don't really remember the first time I did, but I remember like, having my friends come out, like, to LA, like, I'm from Virginia, like, my friends came out and they, like, I would like, take them to a party, and their worlds were like, actually like, rocked like, so I'm on my friends, like, like, like, they literally, I watch their bodies,

actually go like this when we walked into places. They'd be like, like, they'd, like, they'd like, they'd like stumble. I used to like, text my friends from high school, but like, oh my god, you'll never guess who I was like, with last night, blah, blah, blah, blah, I still see, like, NBA players, like, take my breath away. - So, like, now it's like, people go to parties to see who they see and to get some content, not content, but whatever, they get pictures, they get this. - Yeah, of course. - They get, like, a, maybe a story to tell on their podcasts or it's like, it feels-- that's-- it very much feels like social interactions or social gatherings now,

are just to, like, transact, have cloud. - Cloud, and, like, a story to tell, and a picture to, you know, I think it's different. I feel like I'm used to be college for me. - Cheers. - Oh, dude, it was just like the best. There was no cameras, like there was no-- - Colleges, like, the most, the fun I think I've ever had in my life, other than marrying you and my life with you? - No. - Fuck off. - I don't know why I clap.

- It's drinking all week long. - And getting all the same feelings of a soda, but just having a healthy alternative. - It makes me feel good. - It makes me feel good. - It makes me feel good. - That's right.

“- I think it's good that they're making you feel good. - Yeah, I like to taste, but it makes me feel good, too. - I think that's great.”

- So, you're doing a good job. - By any two cans of Allie Pop in store, and they'll pay for you, you-- - Then they'll pay you back for one, any flavor, any reattailer, go to drink Allie Pop.

- Now, Chris, and you know I've always dreamt of coming to Michigan, not for a summer.

It's all I've ever wanted to do with you since you guys-- - What are you doing? - I think I'm coming now, and you know what's going to come with me, I might just have to pack a little friend with me. - And this is a white wall peach. - And what's that? A white cloud mango, and what's another flavor we're bringing in? Black cherry. - Black cherry. - Oh, black cherry. - This summer is a white cloud summer. We're going to have fun, we're going to grab a life by the club, but we're only allowed to say one word now.

- Fine. - Will. - Happen. - Immediately. - When? - We. - Open. - White. - Claw. - Please drink responsibly. Hard-sells of flavors. White-class culture works Chicago and Illinois. - Cut it out, I'm going to sip it right now. - I miss when it was like you tell the rights. - No, when you would take the picture, like when we were all in high school,

we'd like go on spring break, you take the picture. - It's still camera. - That, then you go get a developed. - I've been like, I have this context T3 that I love, and I've been like, - What's this? - What did you say? - Contacts, like the film camera. - Oh, that camera camera. - Sorry. Sorry. - Sorry. - Sorry. Go, go, go, go, go, go. - You're such a f*ck real bad.

“- I think this context is doing like that. - I didn't, of course. - I didn't, I was supposed to know that.”

- I don't know, I feel like you guys were like, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, the tiger fans. - Yeah. - I thought we were going to have a topic. - I thought we were going to have a topic. - Now I feel. - No, it's like, you have this film camera. I got like a, I get no one else six. I got this. - It's like, it's a disposable. - A 47R. - Tell us a little bit more about your camera. - I was talking about this the other night. I was, I don't know, I feel like when I first started taking film pictures, I would be like very frugal with them.

Like, take a picture and be okay. And now I'm like, I'll just fire off like three different ones of like kind of the same thing and like different settings. - Yeah. - And it's so cool because it's like, you kind of wait to find out if you did good. And it's the other thing, too, is like your phone is in your pocket and you still have the memory. - Yeah. - And you, by the way, you get digital files of a two now. So it's, you know what I mean, it's, you know, I'm, I'm like trying to get better.

- Is this a post-retirement hobby or if you've always been into this? - I like, I got like a digital camera like a, like, a like a cube.

- Oh yeah. - I don't know that. I know that. - Oh, like a cube, three, three, three. - Yeah. - Why are you like a numbers guy? - I don't think, I just like you. - But it just made me get two questions. - Should we sit on the couch? - Because I'm sorry. - Where do we go? Should we go right there? - We're going to go corner part. - I don't know, you're a big dad. But you might hit your head, but I'm a little scared now. - It's like everything I do is you're hitting on the sky. - Look. - But hey, okay, get up. - Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. - Let's just wash your head. - We had who came a cream. - Oh yeah, a cream. - A cream in the car. - A cream in the car. - I had a different fixture back then. But he literally, the first thing that happened was he bend his head on the mic. - I felt so bad when he entered because he, you should feel that back then. - Did he have it on? - No. - In there, you were talking about, you know how the person not gonna like it. Do you have insecurities? - Oh yeah. - Oh yeah. - You do? - Yeah, for sure. - What are you insecure?

- What? - You're about. (laughing) - No, no, no, no, no. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Actually, physically, I actually do.

- What? - My, I, so being a former athlete, like, toes, your feet just get wrecked. - Oh, yeah. - I see. - I see.

- I see. - I see. - I see. - I see. - I see. - I see. - I see. - I see. - I see. - I see.

- I see, I see. - I have, I'm insecure about my feet, because they're disgusting, so I'll show you after. - Oh, I've got, at some point, I will. - Do you just look like a bronze? - No, not quite that bad.

- You got any non-physical insecurities? - Non-physical insecurities. - Yeah, I feel like I, I don't know.

I'm always so, I was always so jealous of like,

there's a lot of athletes who are just incredibly confident people,

“and I think that's part of it or something.”

- You feel so confident to me. - I feel, I feel confident, you know. - That's true. - To me, to me. - Oh, to you. - I think that, you know, like, confident,

to like a certain degree, but like, I was a very shy kid. - Really? - And I don't think people, like, I tell people that now, and they're like, - You're so extrovert.

- Yeah, I'm actually not. - I know. - I know. - Like, you don't like to always be around people. - No. - Yeah, you have to recharge. - I definitely need to recharge, and also like,

if I'm walking into a situation like, I don't travel with like a posse, I walk into a lot of situations like today, I just like, you just like walk in. And it's just like that thing, it's like,

I don't know how this is gonna go. - Yeah, I'm not saying I was like, nervous, but-- - Like, you're meeting me. - I think my insecurities are, I think people would be surprised how, like, I have like, pretty normal insecurities.

- Did you get nervous before games? Like, when you walk in? - No, first game, first game, first game of like college or this or that, but after playing so many games,

almost every other night, like, you kind of just get used to, like, play off games. - You gotta get nervous. - Play off. - Play off, like, the first play off game? - Yeah, it's more of like, an anticipation, less than,

like, a, I'm nervous.

- I always wanted to know this.

Were you ever scared to take the shot? - No, no. - And it was gonna be that never. - I loved it. - I was like, that's the thing I missed the most is the big, like, high pressure moment.

- Like, you're ready to, you're ready to do that. - 'Cause you just can't replicate that, really, like, in other areas, or at least I haven't found one that, like, I don't know, yeah. It's, it's, like, the moment is so big and you, like,

you don't know what's gonna happen. Like, you kinda have your play, but things go out the window,

“and you have to improvise, and you kinda, like,”

and, like, it never went through my mind. What if I missed? It was always the what if I make it. And, like, I don't know why, but, like, that's, like, the one moment, like, even after my rookie year,

I remember the off season, I, like, had this, like, lingering insecurity of, like, what if I can't do that again? You know, like, what if I can't have a good year? What if I'm not good enough? Like, even after, like, sort of proving yourself.

- No, that's good. - Yeah, and I, I, I didn't mind it at all. - Can make you say that. - It's the same way that I'm having the best years of my life. Like, when I've been the most on top,

I'm thinking, oh, my God, I'm definitely gonna get cancer. Like, something's gonna, something bad to me. No, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be like, your life. But what you said, which, earlier, when you were talking about what you miss, I feel like if I,

if I were an athletic athlete. - Athletic, Athletic, I feel like you were an athlete. - You were an athlete. - No, but I'm like, you know, playing in it. - Yeah, the thing I would miss the most would be,

like, the high of that shot, like, having that opportunity, like, take it and then be like, I fucking, just get it. - But that's the biggest adrenaline. - Biggest adrenaline.

- Me as a player, even though I always felt like

a really clutch shooter in player, I hated Lasha. No, like, late game foul line requirements. - Oh, yeah, those those are tough. - Like, that scared. - Why didn't you get a little nervous?

- I don't even get it. - Like, it's a playoff game, and it's just games tied up. - You nervous? - Yeah. - You're, you're, you're, I don't know if you have time

to like be nervous, you're, but you're in your head. - Yeah, yeah. - Definitely in your head. - No, like, yeah. - You know, those things, you don't really see,

after you get used to it, you don't really see it. - We saw the people that, yeah, guys. - No, guys, I've been doing this for a long time. - No, no, I haven't seen it. - You just don't get the high, like,

if you play in like a game, like a pickup game, do you still get a high? - I know, it's kind, like, I don't know if it's sad or not, but like, I haven't played. I haven't even remotely come close to playing

in a pickup game since I retired. - Really? - Yeah, you're not played at all. - I like shooter round, but I haven't played a game.

“You have to understand too, like, you go play”

like a pickup game, and like, all right, like am I gonna play hard, am I gonna, like, try? - Would I be able to get three dribbles off without you stealing it? - If you go out. - I don't know.

I've never seen you play, but--

- No, just, just picture me, I'm a normal, yeah. - No, because you can just, you just shoot me right now, when I was playing. - You can just turn your back. - No, if I don't turn my back in a week,

you can just turn your back in a week. - Like, do you think, do you think there's a chance like that I couldn't, I get three dribbles off? - No, I think you get three dribbles off. Like, if you're talking about, like, in my, like,

when I'm, like, when I was, like, playing, playing, I think maybe it'd be tougher. - But I don't see what you haven't seen you play. And you play, like-- - Basketball is so hard on the, not the band.

- On the band. - Yeah. - Well, I'm sure it's hard on women too, but I'm like, every, you guys all play, but you're all, you are always like,

man, I really wish I could play today, but it's just not worth the risk of, like-- - Dude, Achilles. - All I think about this is all right for you guys, are all so, I mean--

- Achilles, I see you in my guy after the 30s. - Yeah. - Oh, my God. - Oh, my God. - Oh, it's just, like, your body, your,

every time you're, as you get older, you're joined to have less mobility and, like, Achilles are compromised. - Oh, my God. - And you can't ever get anything back, right?

- I mean, you can fix it, but it's like, your legs are two different sides. Even guys in the NBA, you have, like, the best PT guys who have torn their Achilles, like, they're visibly, you can see how their legs are different sizes.

- Was there ever times, without disclosing people's names, that you would be, like, because you're on a team sport, where you would be, like, budding heads with the team, and then you were like, "Did you guys ever get on,

"would there be, like, little tensions?"

“It's not a huge thing, thing you have to go on and play”

with each other. - Yeah, I never really had, like, any type of beef where I was, like, fuck this guy. - Yeah, I mean, you get physical on the court, though.

- Oh, yeah, that's playing against people, yeah. - Would you ever get a fight? Would you ever get physical, and then instantly be, like, like, like, right didn't take any shit, like,

would you ever, there's never a guy where you get physical, even, like, a whole thing. - I never got into a rhythm, and I'm, I'm, like, I played with him in a, playing with James Johnson, who's like, he's a, I was just telling the story,

he's a, he has, I think, nine brothers and sisters. His parents, double black belts, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu,

So he's like, one guy who you don't fight. - Everybody votes, like, that one guy. - Yeah, and he's gonna fight, yeah.

- Yeah, he's the one who's always the one who's always.

“- Are you kidding me with the guy to know with him?”

- No, no, no, no, no. - We got to interact with the same year where he was, yeah. - Were you all bark, no, bite, like, would you ever have fought, were you ready to fight? - Yeah, but, like, it never comes down to me.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I shouldn't say never, sometimes it does. - No, I would have been so scared to, besides, like, shack, and the hobby, since we're she'd Wallace.

- Oh, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - It's all so clean. - Oh, my God. - Charles Oakley's hands are, like,

probably, like, a little bit bigger than mine, but, like, each finger is, like, twice the width. - I bet you got everybody's, everybody's, like, you know how, like, some teams have, like, kind of, not goons, but, like, they're just the physical,

- Oh, yeah, yeah. - 'Cause I've got all that fish in your head. - You're like, coming, like, you're like, you're, like, so charismatic and strong, and he plays so fizz.

- And it's always being probably guarded by,

like, they're most physical guys. - He plays so fizz. - He plays so fizz, like, and he's, like, same dude, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,

- 'Cause I'm pushing after play, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - No, sometimes, sometimes. - So people, people would test you, then you would get tested down, yeah.

- You would get tested a lot. - And you were, like, early on now. - You were, like, all smiles until, and that could, I would see you go from smiling to just, like, yeah, what if I was? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- And didn't know you, I never once, like, when I watched, like, play Griffin's a pussy. I was never, like, never. - Never, like, never. - People didn't know. - No, no. - Yeah, because you were, like, a good-looking guy.

- But then I felt like you held your own, though, all the time. - But then everybody have no choice, but to be a pussy, you can't fight? - Wow. - No, you can't be a pussy. - I mean, but you can't be a pussy.

- There's, like, ways of, like, becoming, like, a tougher NBA guy,

and, like, kind of, maybe a pussy, yeah. - Yeah, like, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's, there's, there's one thing we haven't spoken about. That's, like, so important to me, it's game day. Post game, what's happening?

Like, you guys just won, I mean, you just won in Miami. - Post games, post games. - Post games, post games. - Coach comes in, he gives us little post games speech. I'm usually, like, feet in the ice bath. - You're not even listening.

- Ice on my knees, I'm like, like, I'm like, we're in the three of us. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, like, ice for, like, 10 to 15 minutes, and then shower, if I need to get any, like,

I don't know, sometimes you have, like, something to, like, yeah. - Yeah, go to the trainer, get your condoms. (laughing) - Like, let me get you some water. - Here, let's go inside, okay.

- Okay, let's go inside. - Let's go inside, let's go inside. - Let's go inside, let's go inside. - Watch your ass. (laughing) - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - The way that that draft stands inspires me.

- Just outside, you're gonna sell. - I got your ass out. - Right, you gotta take on the day. - I literally thought you were gonna say the way that draft stands reminds me of you. - That's, I use some better than water. - I'm gonna be on.

- I'm about an alley pop, though. - Okay, one left, so I came in here with the right intention. I was gonna give Blake an alley pop, and someone's been drinking all the alley pop, so I don't know who it is.

I don't think it's Blake, 'cause he's new here. It could be Benny, it could be Kristen. Either way, we have one left. And so even though I came in here with the right intention of giving one to Blake, I'm kind of rethinking everything,

and I do have a meal, I'm gonna eat at the end of the day. That is gonna be way better with a cold alley pop, especially Blackberry vanilla, that's a great flavor. - So Blake, might just have to make do with filtered water. - I'm sorry Blake.

- What's like, you know, you say you got the camera, what's another hot, do you have any hobbies? - I play golf. - Are you good? - I'm okay.

“- Are you good at every, do you have to be good at”

kind of everything fit, like when you say okay, what's your handicap? - Like a nine. - Okay, so you're, you're like, - You guys talk it off, that's good.

- No, that's good. - I started like, plant like four and a half years ago and got obsessed with it. - But you would be good at, like, football, like you'd be like--

- I played football basketball, baseball, soccer, growing up. - Like you're good at all of that. - Could you have gone professional at any of those you think? - Maybe football? - Yes, yeah.

- I think you could have been a half-time. - Not too short, but yeah. - Yeah, that's what you kind of been. - Like a defensive end or something like-- - It's all.

- Wow. - Do you think so? - So your son is how old? - 12. - Do you want him to--

- Only, I truly mean this, only, if he actually wants to do it. - Is he against to it? - He loves sports. - He's not on his own, loves basketball, loves football. - And are you like, secretly though, like, just?

- I just might hope for him as like, if he does want to play professionally or even in college, like, that he's like, really loves it 'cause it can get, it can get a little brutal, especially with how people talk to people.

- Do you feel like it's not really spoken about how often, like, athletes are just like, it's cart blanche to fully dehumanize them and be like, "Hey, fuck you, Blake." - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- You're a fucking weak pussy. - Yeah, yeah.

“- Like, you're supposed to, like, you have to just--”

- It'll be, like, a kid sitting outside, like talking shit to you and you're just like, what the fuck was, it's like the elevator theory, like, you, like, don't ever say to somebody during a basketball game, or a sporting event

- Could you lose a big game? Maybe even, maybe a playoff game. That's not, you're not eliminated, but like, a big playoff game. And could you lose that game and go home

and have a pleasant evening? - No, yeah. - No, I like sick, like, especially a playoff. - A regular game, you could maybe. - A regular season game over time,

like, some are hurt more than others. Like, do you play really bad in your lose? - Yeah, yeah. - That's not to say, like, if you lose, you play good, but like, if you play bad in your lose,

you're, like, damn, that was my fault. - How long till you can, like, kind of, recap, and, like, be back to, like, all right, I'm, like, not gonna let this eat me up anymore.

“- I think it'll always stay with you a little bit.”

It, like, one year in the playoffs, we were supposed to do really, really well,

and, like, ended up losing, I think in the second round

to Oklahoma City, and, like, had a chance to beat them. And after that series, I literally, I had, like, two of my buddies were staying with me. I, we, like, woke up every day, went into my theater and watched Game of Thrones and, like, watched,

I think I watched, like, six seasons, and, like, literally five days. Like, we would just lock ourselves in there and order food into, yeah. - That's a fun time, I love hearing that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- There's tears. - That's a fun time, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Not regular season games, but play out. - Do you look back, like, like, you know, you're a part, and Lob City, the clippers, that's one of the, like, kind of, like, the most famous,

like, winning teams that didn't do it. Like, are you gonna be haunted by that, or not really 'cause you're, like, fucking, I'm, like, play Griffin, I have, like, a Hall of Fame crew. - Yeah, no, like, bombed for sure.

Like, I, I look back and I'm just, I'll see, like, highlights and, or I'll see something now, and I'll be like, I wish I could have just done this, or I wish I could have, like, been a little bit better at that, or, like, you know, it's not, like, it's not to the point where I'm like, it's, it's not like dread, like, I'm not, like, sitting there dwelling on it, but, like, yeah,

bombed, it bumps me out that we never...

- Do you think you think about it every week? - Once a week, yeah, probably. - Really?

“- Well, you think about it, like, when you, like, I think about it as legacy.”

- Also, like, my house, I have, like, my jerseys, and you see, like, the clippers jerseys, and you, like, so it's not like that I'm just sitting there being, like, damn, or, I'll just kind of be, I don't know, once a week might feel a little bit too much. - Well, like, I definitely, like, think about it. - You think about it, but not, like, so have the impact of bias.

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- Are you competitive as an analyst? Because I think you have the skillset to be a truly elite all-time analyst, but I'm not sure that's what you want to start up. - Did you feel competitive the same way you did as a player? - Well, I feel competitive in terms of being prepared, but what I've learned about this

show is because I'm with Dirk and Steve Nash and you don't have as little mentality that works as our host, the show is better when we're all so I'm not competitive with. - No, no, no. - But I'm competitive in terms of, I want to know what I'm talking about and I want to say it in a way where people are like, "Wow, that's really good."

- Yeah.

- And I'm trying to do a thing where I'm not, I'll be critical but only if it's truly

- Yeah.

- Yeah, I went three for 17, that's fine.

It happens. - Yeah. - You think he's happy about it? - Yeah. - No one wanted to make those shots more than he did trust me.

- You reframe it so it doesn't feel like it's such a criticism. - Yeah, there's a way to, yeah. - Yeah. - What do you think is good? - I think that is good.

- Yeah. - There's a way to say. - Did you ever go to a sports psychologist? - Yeah. - So, my first time ever seeing a sports psychologist around 2012, I think it was sort of

became more of a thing and the clipers hired the team sports psychologist and everybody was required to meet with him. So he's like, "Hey, it comes up to me after a practice."

“He's like, "Hey, why don't you, if you want to meet like outside of here, we don't have”

to sit at the, we can go get coffee, I can come by the house and I lived in Manhattan Beach at the time." Down the ocean, I was like, "Yeah, why don't you come and we sit on my balcony and we talked, he left and I went in to take a shower, put my phone in the charger, took a shower, came back and I see a miss call from him in a voicemail, I clicked the voicemail and it's him

and he goes, "Hey coach, just left Blake's house, we had a good talk, some really interesting things." I was like, "Oh man." - I was like, "Oh my God, I can't believe he fucked up that bad because that's really

fucked up." And second of all, I was like, "Well fuck that, I'm never seeing that

in sports like ours, it's just a burger." - I wouldn't even have to be fucked up as legal, I guess. - I don't think it is. - Okay. - Do you go to therapy?

- I do, yeah. I do. I didn't my most of my career, but I have like pretty consistently weightly. - Yeah. - I'm surprised you didn't do it for your, I feel like I would have to do it in the bucket.

“- But so much of it too, I was like, "You know what I mean?”

You were meal-packing." - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Do you ever wear the ice buckets to the club? - Oh, dude, have you heard the, um, uh, mollins to, or not, um, coders are, oh my God, I just went blank on his name. - You get gold made.

- Gold made. - Clay Thompson. - No, no, no older guy. - Chris Mollins. - Chris Mollins.

- Yeah. - Oh my God. - Apparently he used to go to some bar, like some kind of like dive bar after every game, after every home game, and he would get a giant ice bucket with like 15 beers, put his feet in it,

and sit there and just sit behind him and see if it would come up, and he would, I always

love that story. - Can you do a game hungover? Have you ever played a game slightly hungover? - Of course. - Or is it really fuck with you?

- Yeah, you have. - Of course.

“- Yeah, I definitely like, yeah, it's, uh, have you ever played a game?”

- I'm not very much. - Yeah. - Like by the way, a lot of times when you're sick, or you're hungover, you'll have, like, I didn't, hungover, I did very, very, very, very, but there was one time where we were like in New York and like a blizzard was coming in, and we're like, the game might get canceled,

but we go, we go to New York and then you, there's like one of those like restaurant turns into a, yeah. - Yeah. - And like, next thing I know, it's like 2 a.m. and I'm like, oh my God, I hear you out of here. It's like, go home, sleep, wake up, see you text, shoot around, it's been canceled, I'm like,

thank God. So we don't have to get on the bus to go to shoot around. So I just slept until we left for the game, was like three or four. - Do any players get high, I play perfect, I play so much better. - You're no possible chance, I could play high.

- Me neither. - Oh, we should get high and I'll play you. (laughing) - I would be great. - I do like it, just for us, we're actually don't, it's funny, I don't get high, well,

I make music, I don't like the feeling, I need to stay very, I need to, I need to stay very, - Now you understand the bad thing? - Yeah, I have to stay so full, I don't even understand how, I could do it if I'm, like, alone, creating, like a mission, like, I can't, no, sometimes the stress, the stress, you're like, it's like, we know it's our last day, it's like games seven, we don't have,

like, we don't, the songs, like, not done, we don't have it, like, you gotta get. - Like, good line for now, we don't do like a week with an artist, like a cool studio or something, and I'm like, they won't be booked on that Monday, and they'll know it's like, they're our last chance for a lot of work on the thing that we're working on, yeah, or like, like, when we were doing all those Kanye albums, we would, where he was making them in, like,

seven days, yeah, it'd be like, was he really? - Yeah, it'd be, it'd be, it'd be, it'd be, it'd be, date, started day seven, zero vocals. - Zero, zero, for the whole album, and we, he'd be coming, he'd be coming to the release party, it would be like, it'd be like, I don't know how that's going to happen, it'd be fun. - Dude, and we'd go like this, we'd go like this, I remember we were doing the kids,

see Ghost one, the ones with the one with kid cutie, okay, and we're sitting there, and he did that, like this ghost town, far away, and like, you went to that one. - Oh, was that the one out in like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, something crazy far, and I'm sitting, and I'm sitting with you, and it's the night before, and we're, like, about to start recording all the vocals, and he's like, bro, I'm exhausted, I'm exhausted,

and he said, it was like, five p.m. and he was like, I'm gonna go sleep, I'm gonna come back at three a.m. and I'm gonna cut until the next day until we do it, we had no vocals, just scratch vocals, he came back at three a.m. he cuts the whole thing, where it's, it's, like, 7 p.m.

We still, like, there's so much left to do, like, I'm in this room, there's like a glass case where you are, like, like a glass, like window, where you are, so you can see through, and you see guys, like all the people that work from, like guys have, like, two phones, like, he's like, he's like, and he's like, he's like, play it again, and we're like, listening to a reborn, and he, and he, and he listens to his verse, and he's like, again,

“again, he listens like 10 times, and we're like, and I'm like, what's he listening for?”

And he stands up and he's like, man, he's like, I'm fucking dope, like, and then he's like, I just, I, he's like, I'm just not to realize how it was, again, and then we're, we get in the car. And he's still, we're recording vocals on a laptop on the way there, putting them into them, like a lot of it was recorded just on, like, sometimes it was recorded on cell phone. And we just put it in.

He would change it the day after the day. Yeah, yeah. And then we get there, and it's like, those, those times, they're so electric because it's like, and like, for me, every time I'm turning in an album for anyone, whatever it is, I'm like,

I always leave it kind of till the last minute, because I like to fiddle, I like to fiddle,

so much. And I like, you like the lights, the rock, you're perfect, you're perfect. I want the ball. When it's, when it's time to go, and it's like, there's, you could pass it to anyone, I want, I want the rock, I want to shoot the three every time, 10 out of 10.

Me too. I would love to be pass the ball and shoot it and make it. Shoot one of them. Is there a hoop? Oh, oh, you're there.

You're almost there. Oh, really can you? Yeah. This is like, we go to make it all the man, like, you're a dust.

“Who is the hardest guy you ever had to play against?”

Like that, there was just like, oh, I can't believe I got to play. And then I post in terms of guarding, guarding, but I also mean, like, fear. Oh, you fear not fear not fear not fear not fear not. You fear not. I do fear.

A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. Put it to fear. Man, I don't, it's like a good, I mean, there was like, really, the thing was, you,

like, love playing against the best players. Yeah. So it's like, there was some guys that were just like, more physical and more, like, hard to guard, that were just like, it was like, damn, that sucks. Yeah.

A little bit like, the Tim Duncan, my first guy, Endurkin, like, the Marcus Aldridge,

was last. So he was so good, so good, on the mid range. They're like, he was, but I loved playing against him. Was there any kid, like, any guy that, like, just so happened, was like, his last year when you were in, that you grew up, like, watching every, like, as a kid, and you, like,

are playing, like, your hero. Oh, yeah, I mean, don't do my, like, first, like, real, like, welcome to, welcome to the NBA moment, we're playing San Antonio in a preseason game. It was my first preseason game, and we're in San Antonio, and I'm doing the court warm up early.

Like, I talked about, and I'm like, going through stuff, and I turn, and I look at the other end, and Tim Duncan, Tim Duncan is warming up. What did he do? Yeah, you'd be done. Nice.

Man, you'd be done.

“He is the sweetest person ever, but he's also, like, you have to understand, since I was nine”

years old, I've been watching him. He's like, warming up, and I turn, and I, I literally just stopped, and I, like, watched him for saying, my coach was like, yo, I was like, oh, yep, that's what he wanted. And it hit me in that moment that I was like, holy shit, like, I'm just, my dream about to play against Tim Duncan.

It was a preseason game. San Antonio, I'm like, man. You said, but did you say to him, like, you say, like, you're my hero? You know what? I was so, like, can't give away an edge, but I, I didn't, not even at the end.

Oh, no, no, first of all, he knows how much I watched him.

What about when there are people on the side that, like, that, like, that, any, where, - You've ever fallen in love with a woman, like when you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like drinking down on the side. - I'm in love with a woman. - You're definitely like when you're like young in single,

and like, you know, especially in LA, like she's like sitting in the court side, it gives you a little extra like pepper. - Yeah. - You ever gotten a date off of like, when a girl's sitting in court side,

and you don't have to say a name, but like, you're dribbling down and she's there and you lock eyes and you like deal with it after. - Yeah. - Yeah. - You're not even DM, maybe go up to...

- No, he's a class actor. - No, he's a professional. - He's like, "I'm not classy about that." - Yeah, it's nothing like classy about that. - Wasn't it crazy going against KG?

Like, he's probably so intense. - Oh, my God. - He did, he did. He was, he like talks to himself. Like he'll talk shit, but he's, he's like,

feel like walk right by you and be like, it's fucking pussy can't guard you. - He's talking to himself, so you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, am I a pussy?

- Am I a pussy? Am I a pussy? Am I a pussy in the equation? - Okay. - You're an ox, the muscle.

- He also, before game, if you would go, sorry, he would go. He would like, pull his jerseys, y'all, doc. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- You're like, you're like, "What the fuck are you doing?" - I don't know. - I don't know. - I don't know. - It's intimidation, I don't know. - You just be like, "Wait, that's the sweetest." - That's right.

- No, you can know. - Notice in differences and men sweat. - What? - You're a shit. - Of course you are.

“- You think you're like, "Garden the Post"”

and you're like, "I thought everyone was so sweaty." - No, no, no, no, not the same amount. - I would change my jerseys. - Oh, yeah. - You smell the word.

- No, don't say it, don't say it. - Yeah, I know. - But was that? - Does your kids sweat a lot? - He,

he's like kind of a sweaty guy. - Yeah. - But like, look at SGA.

- Looks like he never sweats.

- Yeah. - And B. - In terms of the family. - Yeah. - It's like the same amount.

- Yeah, it's like the same amount. - I played with Andre Drummond. He would change his uniform. He would wear four different jerseys. - Wow.

- Wow. - I would change the past time because I sweat a lot. - Does everyone change the past time? - No, no. But I am like, "I'm my whole fit.

"My dad and my brother, I all sweat. "Like, when I work out in the summer, "I would take like three shirts." - Yes, I do. - And I would like change shirts during the workout.

- Wow. - It's weird.

“- I've ever used your sweat to your advantage.”

(laughing) - Again. - By the way, free throw? - Yeah. - If, like, the other team's shooting.

So, like, you know, you're, you're the block, and you, like, I would go like this. You're back to the breath, and sometimes the breath wouldn't notice. - I wouldn't do that. - I don't know. - I don't know.

- They just crunch time moments.

- I feel like I've never done.

- I feel like it's just, you guys will talk. - Those are hard to do. - Was hard to do? - Was hard to do? - Yeah.

- You're definitely like-- - No, hard to do. Like, like, right before the breath. - No. - Like, no.

- But like, this is definitely times where you're like, "Walking you like, somebody's just farting." - Yeah. - Like, like, nine other guys, I don't know who it was. - Why is there not a guy going like this?

- Like, like, like, a guy's about to shoot the free throw. And it's like-- - Yeah. - Like, what do you mean? - Yeah.

- Like, I never experienced it, but I'm sure, like-- - In the ABA. - I guess you're like-- - Yeah. - Yeah.

I could see, like, J.R. Smith doing something like that. - Really, like, you shouldn't-- in the NBA, especially, because of just the word. Like, you shouldn't call somebody a bitch. - Really?

- Like, it happens. - But, like, you-- - Like, everyone calls it on a bitch. - Yeah, I might be able to do that. - But, I believe they're all saying--

- No.

- You never call that anything.

- I mean, somebody will be like-- - Yeah, but-- - But, like, I mean, let's not to say-- you guys definitely do. That's not like crossing the line, but it is, like,

one of those things that will escalate-- - Yeah. - from, like, normal trash talk to, like, "Oh, it's like heated now." - Yeah.

- You definitely-- - You definitely-- you can say that. But, like, it will take the trash talk. It will take the-- whatever is happening up to another level of-- - We all have seen-- - But, like, a Chris Paul locker room fight situation.

- Yeah, that was, like-- - That's all myth. - No, no, it was like-- - Is that your scene? - So, that was when CP left to go to Houston.

- Right. - And, we're in the locker room. CP and Austin Rivers had, like, gotten into it. I think Austin said something-- - This is-- this is like what I--

- And then, so, I mean, CP was just on our team. So, the way locker room at Staples Center, now, crypto. And the Clippers locker room is, like, right next to each other, there's just a hallway that separates the two. So, he just went out the side door and they tried to come

talk to Austin and it ended up being, like, the exact same thing you see on the court of, like, a group of us, the group of them, and there's just, like-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- And there was, like, "I-- I-- I-- like, nothing happened." - There was, like, really blown out of proportion. - There was a charge of the pre-game music. Like, who's iPod gets to go up? - Oh, in the locker room?

- In the locker room. - Yeah, um, usually the threats. - Did they trust your taste? - So, okay, so pre-game locker room, you're not really playing music.

- No, no, no, no, no. - 'Cause like, weight room at the practical facility and stuff, you're playing music. - Why don't you just listen to your own, everyone else else into the same?

- You can. - Yeah. - But, uh, so in the locker room, there's usually not music guys are using their headphones, just because guys want to--

but, like, practice facility and stuff, like, - Yeah, I would, like-- - Is it showers in there, where everyone can see everything? - Some of them, like-- - Why would they still be that way? - Well, some of the home locker,

when you go on the road, 'cause the visitor locker room is, aren't nearly as nice as the home. - It's them, but yeah, it's like, like, maybe even all your--

- You've seen your whole team naked? - Yeah. - Yeah. - You mean, at some point, yeah, really? - Really? - Yeah. - Oh, wow.

- I mean, you kind of, like, it's an unoboidable.

“You know, the locker room, you have to change showers,”

like, like, there's probably, I mean-- - Wow, probably. - Are there any guys who are, like, - Yeah. - There's definitely, like, guys who are, - There's definitely, like, guys who are, like, like, who are less cavalier about it.

- Yeah. - No one's ever shown with the bathing suit on that you've seen. - No, no, no. - That would be crazy. - I would, if I was in the NBA. - There's definitely some guys that are, like,

you know, like, you're just more, like, - There's a few guys who are just walking in the frame.

because I had to brush my teeth and brushing my teeth would take 25 minutes with my rituals. - Yeah. - Took a lot of time. - Took a lot of time. - Took a lot of time, ate up a lot of food.

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“it's like, it's like-- - It's like, did you ever have to have a child again?”

- It's like, did you ever have to have a talk with on a player, or something like, "Hey, then you stink." - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - I'm sure it is happened, but what would I ever play with? - Every time I watch an MIA game,

I always like, "I can't believe they make these men."

- They're 6-10. - Oh, yes, they have sex. - They have sex. - It's a big deal of men. - It's a big deal of men.

- In the world, not necessarily pound or pound, but size height-wise. And we also have to move so dynamically. - Yeah. - And we have the smallest, like, rest area.

- It's a lot of lazy boys. - Yeah, every sea. - Yeah, every sea. All those court-side seats are two to six to eight k. - Are you wearing a brand new pair of shoes every game?

- Almost. - Why, isn't it better when they're worn in? - No, because the, I mean, if you think about, like, my weight. - Yeah.

- Like, I can break a pair of shoes in. And like, the heat, you know, from your foot, like, break a pair of shoes in, like, break a pair of shoes in. - Oh, break a pair of shoes in. - Well, you can break them in so easily.

- Yeah. - They're like, once I go on, do my 30 minute warm-up, and do my lift, and then go out for warm-ups again. A shoe is completely broken in.

- You never have, at your level, you weren't, like, ever annoyed.

Like, you would never, like, get in fights with your coach about, like, play time, right? Like, that doesn't happen. - I'm really playing time. - Like, play time.

- Like, as I guess I got old, like, yeah. I mean, that happens, all of the guys are, most guys are a little bit upset about their playing time. Unless you're a starter, well, top two or three starters, usually they're playing enough where you're, like,

doesn't matter, but everybody else below that,

“I mean, you, it's, that's what you want to play.”

- Yeah. - And so it's like, it's kind of like, it's not a bad thing. It's like a healthy, as long as you're having a healthy conversation about it. - Who do they complain to?

Like, that, I mean, yeah, you'll talk to coaches. You'll talk to, maybe your asian will call the GM, like, general manager, or, like, - You're, your season that you probably had the least find time was what Celtics or something.

- Yeah, and that was like, the only year that you ever experienced that, that level of fine time. - Yeah, the year before in Brooklyn, I was, like, kind of, in and now a little bit, but. - Was it enjoyable still to be a part of an NBA team

and watch playing, or was it just kind of torture? - Yeah, it's fun being with the guys, but, yeah, sometimes torture a little bit, like, just like being, like, wish I could be out there, you know? - Can you say, can you?

- No, but you also have to be, like, self-aware and be, like, at that point in my career, I was like, yeah, I mean, there's better, there's guys that can, you know? So it's--

- Wait, is there any guy in the bench that never plays? - Oh, yeah. - Yeah, some in. - And they show up every day and they get out there and they wait. - Yeah, yeah.

- There's some guys that, there's a guy that they-- - They're going to pay a lot, too. - Yeah, there's some guys that get to play. They have on the team just, like, for almost, like, moral support.

Like, that was that guy that got back on the, wasn't the nicks or someone. They brought someone-- - George Gibson might have been. - They shoot.

- Like, an older, it was recently. They brought back an older guy. - Yeah, there's-- - It's called locker room guy. So it's like, of older vet, who's, like, especially younger teams need, like, somebody older,

who's a good guy and, like-- - Yeah, you didn't know that. - Don't tell us that. - That is the sweetest, my team, team spirited thing I've ever heard.

- It's so common and basketball.

Like, you're really feeling the game. - Yeah. - I feel it. - It's good. You just put it on the sky's hand.

He can't stop. He can't stop. I did notice when you stood up, though, - They made a sound. - They could have made it in the sound. - It made it in the sound. - It made it in the sound.

- It was a click. - It was a click. - Both of them. - No, I heard it twice. - But my knees back. - Both time standing up. - My ankles. - My ankles. - Yeah. - You eat so much, you're so tall.

I was just thinking about this. - You eat the same much. - I was just thinking about it. - I used to eat a lot more. - Like, you're playing games. Are you eating like 1,000 calories? - It's like 6,500 calories. - Yeah, like 65. - Yeah, like if you're playing a game,

after a game. - Maybe it's maybe 7,000. - And is it have to be healthy? - Well, it's fun. - I mean, it doesn't have to be, but it helps. - Isn't there like some NBA player who says all he eats is like sour patch kit?

What was the, or is it, and it felt like-- - Lamar, or-- - Or on him, yeah, a lot of candy. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Jamal Crawford, he won't mind me, show. He's like a candy, yeah.

He would get on the plane with like a bag of just like, just candy, all in the bag. So like, when I got like, his iPad headphones can't be.

- When I first met Bill Yaddy, he drank

candy. - Like, seven to 10 sodas a day. And it only candy.

“And then one time he, I think I still have the voice,”

voice, no. He called me so proud that he said he stopped, he said he hadn't had any sodas or any sugar water. And like water was sugar in it. He said for the last two months and he was so proud,

I still have a video of-- - He probably did so much better. - Yeah. - Do you change Yaddy's life? - I might have, I want to see if I'm gonna see if I have it. - Look for it.

- Well, you guys talk amongst you. - Seven sodas is a lot of sodas. - I think you're teeth would rot out. - What's you guys just go to carbonated beverage? - I mean, for me, I got no choice, but to go with Ollie Pop.

- Okay, I'd like to play you. - It, it almost slipped my mind, and I almost forgot to tell you. I was just watching my boat trip, assaulting him out the release door. - Oh, wait.

- Start one which will be, I'll have a little piece of our session in it,

but I haven't had soda or juice.

- Since, for weeks ago, maybe when I saw you, last time I had some, I think I drunk only water every single day. I lost about 12 pounds of ice out. - Yeah, it's flourishing. - Yeah.

- That is a bit you'll ever meet. I just wanted to say this to you, so you know. - That's sweet. - Seriously. - No soda, no soda. - So genuine.

- It makes me crazy how much, how much weight people can lose in any way. - And I'm just drinking, drinking cows.

“- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - So, do you guys eat healthy?”

- No, I do. - He eats, try, I get, like, - He got a little kid. - You know, every, yeah, like every, - I'm my best, one of my best friends in the back home,

the one I was telling you about, living with me, eats like chicken tenders and pizza. - Yeah, it's like super bowl, every meal. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. - Chicken wings, wings are here.

- It was just birthday. - And we said, we're gonna cook you all your favorite things. What are your favorite things? Here was the menu. It was chicken tenders, oh, they're pickle.

Buffalo chicken wing dip. - Oh, oh, it is very good. - She's steak and cow zones. And that's Caesar salad. - We were all like sick after that.

- Oh, like Caesar's salad, and tried pigs. - Is that a good idea? - We didn't get it for him, but he requested dry cake. - I love dry cake. - What is dry cake?

- I don't know. - I just don't like spicy. - Oh, yeah. - Maybe there's a thin layer, but do you know? - No, it's like white.

- I, like, pretty, pretty relaxed, but like, for the most part, I would call it like 70, 30. - What? - Are you like a healthy, like, healthy food? - I love food.

- Yeah. - Are you gonna, like, off today? What are you gonna do next? - Yeah, what's your job? - I'm going out to go on a Malibu.

- You spend more time in Malibu? - So I was gonna ask. - We spend a decent amount of time in Malibu. Like, if I don't have the kids out, the kids are not with me. - Well, like, I gotta tell you, you are just an absolute pleasure

from that. - Yeah, this is great. - You're so personable. - Well, like, you're like our same type of, I mean, - I mean, I would have been friends.

“- Yeah, yeah, like, I think you're a few.”

- We are, yeah. - Yeah, we know that. - But can you make friends at 37 or 38, respect to I? - I think if we can all went to the same school, we'd be, like, in the same circle.

- Uh, huh, huh, huh, huh. - Wait, what grade were you? What grade you were? - You're seven high school, oh six, oh six, oh six. - You're a guy.

- You guys were a great boy. - Maybe you would, like, have looked up to a girl. - Oh, okay, okay, okay. - Might have looked up to a guy like me. - The seniors, yeah.

- Yeah, the seniors, I mean, were juniors. - We would have been proud of you. - Yeah, thank you. - Oh, yeah. - We saw a little bit of a proud of you guys.

- I want another group. - I don't use them all. - Really great clothes. - Dude, I, you're so fun. (upbeat music)