The Gwyneth Paltrow Episode

Come in, Gwyneth. [MUSIC PLAYING]

Here is Gwyneth, how true.

[MUSIC PLAYING] Sorry, it's not medieval times.

“But I'm going to tell you about this girl she's crazy.”

Fine, and fine, Brooke. She's amazing. Her name's Gwyneth. And it's Paltrow. And she's a great actor, and this is pretty long.

But she's also owns a company called Goop and probably a lot of other things, by-- and we're so excited. Too much. [LAUGHTER] [MUSIC PLAYING]

All right, up. Get all your fun out. Ooh. Tost me one. See, a guy like me goes for a white cloth.

Now, Cameron, right here, I want you to follow me real slow. So right now, I got a mango. And I just want you to hear the sound. You hear that now? I don't know why you want to smell it.

Why do I want to smell it? Because I want to be transformed into nightlife. I'm also going to kick him back with my friends and just having a great time. Maybe it's summer, maybe it's even fall.

This drink's just kind of good at any time. Yeah, seasonal none withhold it. White cloth. Tost me it. I'm just talking.

I know. You know, you can drink these with your supper. Tost it to me. Open. Really?

Just try it. Watch this. Watch this. It's not what I've done. It's never done.

Check it out. Check it right in the hand. No, it's not going to work. It's summer fun. OK.

OK, do it. We have good powder coming. OK, OK, let's clean up. Let's clean up. We don't want our feet to get sticky.

Let's clean up. I will say the thing about white cloths, even when you spill it. It's not that big of a deal. Oh my god, I just stepped in it. I'm so annoyed that I just stepped in it.

OK, let's clean up. You can't be bad at annoyed. You love white cloths. I love white cloths. But I'm just annoyed at everyone's--

You're annoyed at this situation. Yeah, the decisions. But white cloth just brings out the fun and I say, yes. Check. Are you going to keep the goop out?

Check. I think she's there. This is the remains. I want her to see that I had it. Hi, bud.

How you doing? Oh, you're a movie star. That's what looks like iconic looks. Yeah, defining things of culture. Yes.

I'm such a group fan. I want to know about the vagina care. I was hallucinating. My dick's too fucked up. I'm going to show you, girl, anyway.

Leave it. Please, leave it. Don't keep that in the mirror. This is so weird. [LAUGHTER]

You got this? It's such a cool neighborhood. You fell in love in this house. We did. Yeah.

That's more info than I thought I was going to get. Oh, they did. Right off the bat. They did. They did fully falling.

Did you guys kiss right there the first time? Yes. It's a good house to what was how did you meet?

“What was the writer on my TV show introduced me to her?”

Because she was friends with her. Do you know she's only spent-- Is it one week? No. Alone?

With no boyfriend? No. Do you not boyfriend consistently-- you were single for one week, right? She's been single for like--

I was single for like three weeks before me. Months for dating had been one month ago. I think like five weeks single over the past 50 years. You guys are pushing in narrative that I didn't even sign up for. You didn't sign up for it, but she's been single for five weeks and 10 years.

Yeah. She's a catch, guys. Yeah, I'm telling you. I always-- I like relationships, I think.

I want to say I did predict that the woman that I would marry would be someone who is-- I feel like out of a relationship.

Because I feel like the best women always get snatched up so quickly.

That's also a narrative that I would hate. I was single for five weeks. Yeah. You were single? No.

You were single for five-- my wife. Sure, sure. I was married. Yeah, we just got married. I was no way.

Yeah, yeah. And he got married a month before me. Yeah. Congratulations. Thank you.

I had no idea. Don't eat. Where did you get married? In Santa Barbara. Where?

You rented a palm tree farm and converted it into-- we just wanted to do something unconventional. And Selena was like, she had a dream for her wedding since she was a kid. And she's like, I want to walk down the aisle. And I want the aisle to be like Persian rugs off-center.

I don't want normal flowers. I don't want it to feel bougie. I don't want-- And so it was incredible. And you could tell we would put so much effort into it, but also didn't feel like stuffy.

I love that. That was awesome. So cool. Why is it called goop? Okay, because this is so weird.

“So basically, kind of around the time like early internet days, I think of myself as like”

pretty discerning. Right?

It's like I'm always trying to find like the best taco in Venice.

And, you know, or like, what is the best farmer's sink, or what is the-- Yeah, I'm not talking about that in a second. Like, I was always like cataloging, like, if I was on location as it, you know, in my 20s. Like, where's the actual place to get coffee in Paris?

Yeah.

And then when the internet started, all the information was so bad.

And I was like, I wish-- Right. So I was like, I wish there was just a place where all of the good stuff was actually aggregated, and then I could save time. And my friends could come and, you know, see.

“And basically, so I was like, well, why don't I just do that?”

And then I was like, well, this is early, this is 2008. So this is like, oh, why? It's like almost 17 years ago. I'm searching for-- there couldn't be a person who's searching more for a list than me. And I remember when your stuff started happening and you're like, hey, and I was telling them,

you're like, Christmas list and all those. Yeah. Okay, keep going. So I was-- and also, I really-- I kind of did so many films in my 20s that I kind of hit a wall.

I sort of burn out. And then I had my daughter, and I was like, OK, I'm not-- I need to take a break. Like, I'm acting? Yeah.

How'd you do it, though, weren't you? Like, I really felt burnout. Like, I really felt like I had exhausted myself. And I was kind of like, who am I doing this for? I had a little bit of like an early midlife crisis.

Did you feel like I'm fulfilled professionally? Like, you were like, I've kind of done all of the things for so long. Now that what can I challenge myself with? Like, what's the next and vulnerable? Maybe.

You know, I think I felt like I had sort of like-- I had done a lot of things that I felt proud of. And I think it was more like-- I needed to just-- I was living in London at the time. And I had this baby, and I was like, I just

need to be a person, you know? How old were you when you did? I was 30 when I had apple. OK. Oh, you're so young.

That sounds great. That sounds like an ideal-- Like, how you start the interesting name trend? Yes, I know it was good. What's that mean?

Oh, what do you mean? What do you mean?

I never knew that you started this.

No, I'm just saying it was the first time I ever heard-- And I said, it's easy, man.

“I really-- because I was-- I remember when--”

like, I just remember hearing that your name your daughter apple, it's kind of became like the benchmark for celebrities naming their kids. Sorry. Sorry, guys.

This is a good name. It's a great old. But to finish the group thing, I met with this great advertising marketing legend in New York named Peter Arnell for some advice and asked him like, what I should call it?

No, we did. No, this was it. This was just-- It was like this, how do you-- Wait, check where you say what happened today.

Also, you know I'm an investor, correct? Right now. Thank you. You actually know who the investor is. I was, of course.

I'm an investor. That's cool. Wait, wait. Tell them what happened today. When I opened the thing--

No, the order. Oh, did it get messed up? No. No, it's not your fault. You know, there's really--

It's only-- Both of these are both our faults today. Oh, no. This is not my fault at all. I ordered-- no, no, no, it was not any--

Me, false? Of this, for my mom, I'm going to bring it upstairs for-- Oh. I ordered an order. I thought, you know, it's a-- you know, your delivery guy,

I will be a robot. And I said, OK. And then I put my phone down, took a shower, my own business came back, like 30 minutes later, to check the status, and it said,

"Watersman canceled the robot was not able to do what it needed to do." And I started to point out, I know it's got nothing to do with you, and your business, so-- And then I ordered it again. Right back in the beginning.

I'm not into robot delivery. I'd that happen to me one time with a smoothie, and it just never came. Oh, he has one problem with Goop, that I actually-- it's my favorite part about Goop.

Tell me. So, I'm going to say who's right in the ball. I'm such a Goop fan, like I love it. Thank you. I mean, Nick Picking is only because I'm such a Goop fan.

I don't want to be back the brand. No, he's wrong, and I'm right. And we're so happy that you eat Goop,

because I feel like it was the first

'cause I started eating it all the time, and he doesn't eat anything healthy at first. It's like the healthiest thing I eat. Is that the Goop fellas? That's very good.

I have questions.

“But, okay, tell him his thing. - Basically, I have a piece?”

Yeah, he has to put your mom. No, no, no, no, she's just going to have us a slice. Okay, I don't want to eat your mom's pizza. This is the Goop fellas. This is real.

Yeah, it's my favorite one. I have questions, though. Oh, I love the season salad. Thank you. I love the concept in general of chicken Caesar wraps.

So, I was so excited to order the wrap. Yeah. My complaint is, it comes completely dry with the sauce on the side, untost, or at least with-- That's-- and I did it again, and it happened again.

So, I think it probably is a Goop thing, which I understand is probably to avoid soggyness. But, there's no way I can make that chicken Caesar wrap, really tastes like a chicken Caesar wrap by doing the dip in my opinion.

And he says, "So, my favorite part about Goop is that it comes separately and all the things, and you build it yourself." As somebody who cooks, he doesn't understand the concept. But, I'm talking to you, toss it, you can't toss the salad.

You don't want to be soggy, that's what I'm saying. And then, like, I feel as if I order a lot of chicken Caesar wraps and I have a question, all yours are just soggy. Yeah, and they're disgusting. Yeah, but maybe they are soggy, and I don't care.

Maybe I just don't even care. You don't care about this positive light, can I ask you? Yes. OK. Would you be open to taking the paper off, not opening the whole thing,

but just peeling back the wrap enough to salather on the inside and refolding? I would attempt that, sure, I think what would end up happening. I would find the task a little burdensome, and I'm not good at actually. Like, I don't think it's going to be as simple as, like,

I think I would mess it up to a degree, and then I know the outcome. Well, it would be better than dipping. It still wouldn't be tossed as much.

“You should just get extra and really dip it.”

So what's the difference? Did you really dip it? I understand, it's just a different animal. Right, when I come back down, we're going to play again. But the seven-minute egg.

Oh, do you eat Goop a lot? Like, or do you-- Like, if you weren't on the-- I got your food. Finally.

Oh, yeah. I booked us that place on Airbnb for the weekend. OK. Does it have a kitchen? Nah, they forgot the kitchen.

And this way, of course, it has a kitchen. It's not like a hotel. It's like a big, like, palatial estate. And there's, like, a plate will be making, like, linguining clams.

We'll go walk on the beach. They'll love it. Mm-hmm.

I just-- I just went upstairs, my one goes, finally.

And she goes, I'm so hot. I-- yeah. Wait, I just want to know, what do you write? You said you were a writer. Oh, I write-- I'm a rapper.

And then I also-- I'm a comedian. And I have a TV show. A wait a minute. Oh, my God. Was it on Fox?

Perfect. FX. OK, I know who you are. I'm so embarrassed. What's flushing into your brain, right now?

I just want to hear it. I like blushing. Because my son is obsessed with you. Yeah. Oh, wow.

That is so-- he's going to literally be so upset that I didn't know immediately who you are. No, it's cool. We'll just zoom in on your face right now. It's-- can you see how red I am?

No, you don't-- you do look like-- I was thinking when you came in, I was like, wow.

“I was like, that's what like, someone like iconic looks.”

I know, I was like, no, I was just like, whoa, it's like-- do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Are you a writer, too? Yes.

Yes. Are you from the Midwest? Yeah. Do I have an accent? Yeah, I can tell.

This chicken. OK, I got a game. OK. Can I sit somewhere more? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, I'm excited to sit down. I slept for five hours last night. It was terrible. It was five hours really bad. You should sleep for eight and a half.

Where do you want me to go? Wherever do you like? Where are you going to sit, Chet? I'm going to sit right there. But before we do lifestyle questions, I want everyone

is going to go around the room. We're going to do this. We're going to do this a bunch. We're going to go first. We're going to start.

We're going to do New York, LA, and London. And everyone's going to go around. And you have to give one of your favorite restaurants. I have nothing else to say. This is great.

I love the skin. In the places. Okay. You want me to go first? That's what city?

First. Start with our home town. Okay, LA. Okay.

“I think my first one is actually going to be a grocery store.”

Just because it's so good that I think everyone needs to know about it. Okay. Sassone Produce. It's right next to Jitlada and it's in Thai town. It's like Middle Eastern Produce.

But you can also, they import every day. You're getting the most insane produce from around the world. It's all in your life. It's all in your life. It's like every any any.

What's a finger line? You like cut it open. It has like little pearls. That's all times. And you know, but it's something that's hard to get.

Like, use you all times. Like, because it's different places in the world. It's, it's very, it's a cool place. Okay. I need to write that down.

I'll make you a list. I'll make you a list. I'll make you a list. Okay. Okay.

Your, your restaurant. But they have things like, you know, um, what are those?

It's amazing, like, foods that you, they're brown and you open up tamarind.

Yeah, of course. I love that. And they're amazing, like fresh okra. I love okra. Okra's going to slimy, but I love the slimy.

Okay. Okay. So restaurant. Do you just be your favorite restaurant? Yeah, I'll tell you right now.

This is my favorite restaurant. It's called the Great Greek. Okay. Who can see studio city? What about those old sushi?

Like, the original cat. So yeah. Yeah. Those are good. Hang on.

Okay. I can't waste time. It's my favorite restaurant. I'm only on my favorite restaurant. I'm also talking about the vibe.

And like, really mostly almost about the vibe that I feel and the way I feel when I eat there. It's not what I get taken out from that. I'm saying like when I eat there. Now, I don't like the fine dining experience that mine.

Yeah. I like that. My, my. So my favorite version of like going out to dinner is like what reminds me of childhood, which is suburban restaurant type of feel.

And this place really carries itself like kind of your local. Great restaurant fill it off you. Nice.

And there's also always live music.

There's a man playing.

Yeah.

“Do they break plates and stuff in there?”

There's, they do things that make it feel, things like that happen. Okay. Yeah. There's people dancing. It is so, what's your charming.

Okay. What's that place in? Right. Hold on. It's over the hill.

What? Like not through. Mother. Mother. No.

Are you talking about mother wolf? Mother wolf.

Oh, I've never been there.

I like it. I like the vibe. I like the decor. Have you been there? I have.

Oh, oh. No, no. No, no. I know Evan really well. It's, it's great.

Okay. My favorite place to go. And it's kind of a guilty pleasure. Is lunacia. Oh, it's the best.

What's that? My favorite. You've been with me. Starklighten. You know, I've never been at night.

It's like a brunch thing. That's the best part. Yeah. I struggle with that. Okay.

I want to say if you, I'm just going to say if you and you tell me agree or dislike. Okay. If you like, we like the dim. We like it darker. Sound oyster.

A great love. 10 out of 10. Saffees. I've never been. Have you been at Babel?

Yes, delicious. Okay. Incredible. Saffees is even better than Babel. Okay.

It's the same owner. Okay. Good to know. Okay. Is the vowel also known as Babel?

Yeah. Babel. I call it Babel. Jit Lada. Delicious.

Haven't been a spicy BBQ? No. I gotta take you. Okay. I've been in northern Thai food club.

Nope. It's cool. They're all in the same area. Okay. Have you ever had Lala Bella?

No. The Ethiopian players? No. Okay, delicious. You've got your work cut out for you.

Serious. Let me come back. What? Me neither. Raffees?

Nope. Oh my god. I got hot dog. He's waiting to read the list. I need this whole list.

Oh, do you know what else is really good? That I've been three times already. Max and Helen's. Oh, Phil. Phil.

Phil. Phil. Yeah. It's delicious. Okay.

I couldn't go because I was in Montenegro. Very good. Okay. But food is max. It's not only food, right?

It's not only Jewish. Oh no. Jewish salad. It's really good. How long?

No. It's like the perfect tuna melt. They have the perfect pystromy. They have the best waffle I've ever had. Oh my god.

It's waffle? I'm not like a... You ever have a waffle in Belgium? I haven't. I have.

I love it. And I went to like a total chain. Speaking of like chain, like whatever the place to go in Belgium to get your Belgian waffle, I did not go to.

I went to like first, you know, and I loved it.

And I understood the difference. Okay. Do you like the food in New York? I do like the food in New York.

“But I mean, I think LA is a better food town.”

It's controversial to say. I think like in LA you get there are so many like the diversity of the kinds of food that you find in New York. I mean in LA at the quality and deliciousness, I think, outshines in New York. Just a little. Do you ever eat fast food?

I love fast food. I know it's bad for you. I wish I didn't love it. If I grew up in America. Tell her you're diet.

Well, I don't want to do that. If I grew up in a world where at the nice, fine dining restaurants, I like open the tray. And it was Taco Bell in that thing. I would believe that reality. That would make sense to me.

[laughs] This is off to college season. Stay on college. Save me every day. Amazon has turned this whole room into a dorm room.

I know. It's a good door. And it reminds me of my good old days in my dorm room. How about you? My dorm room was small.

Are you trying to ask? Oh yeah, I was. My college. Yeah, I thought the S was for Michigan State, but it turns out everybody drew the S for different reasons. How does remember the S?

Zoom in. Wow. You know what that S stands for? Saddest find Amazon customers. Who've gone to the off to college option online.

Yeah. I think it might have been. Because like I don't know back in the day when I went to college, you had to go to one store. The next store and just have this whole cobbled together.

Like not even who a room. Now I can be strategic. Yeah. And college, which I'm not. And you can get it done for me.

Thank you.

“So remember, with Amazon's low off to college prices,”

just save on college, save me every day. It's a white class summer. I love mango. You like peach. I'm sure I know you like black cherry.

Okay, now let me just tell you what we're going to be doing. Picture a sliding on a boat. Maybe I'm on a jet ski. I could be on like a like a wakeboard or a pond tube. Check.

You ever you ever been on a jet ski? I heard a rollercoaster speed. You ever gone tubing? I heard a rollercoaster speed. You ever gone wakeboarding?

I went to the one time. It was going so fast. It whipped around. I fell in the water. My bathing suit got stuck.

I stopped my body.

I'd never turn to shore naked.

Really? Yeah. I love it. This summer is a white class summer. We're going to have fun.

We're going to grab life by the club. But we're only allowed to say one word now. Fine. Will. Happen.

Immediately. When? We. Open. White.

Cloth. Please drink responsibly. Hard self-refflamers. White class self-reflection cogle Illinois.

Because your kids aren't, are your kids? My kids all left. So it's just you and Brad. How does that feel? Yeah.

It's. It's really hard. It's really hard. It's really sad. Oh yeah.

I really miss it. Yeah. It's just. It's heartbreaking. I thought by now I would be used to it.

How long has it been? Like eight years. Not just. It's been. This is the second fall where they're all four gone.

Because I've two and then I've two amazing stepkids.

Yeah. And the girls are the same age and the boys are the same. Wow. Yeah. It's hard.

Are your boys you yours? So I have one girl and one boy and then Brad has one girl and one boy. So I have two girls and two boys. That's so cool.

“Before they went to school, was it like you would have like big like everybody would be the home together?”

Yeah. And they all get along. They all get along. And it's so fun. Were you nervous before blending families?

Oh my god. It was so hard. Really? It was like the hardest thing I've ever done. How did you approach it?

Did you like sit? It just didn't go well for a really long time. Why? Wait. The kids didn't want it.

It was fun. It was so fun. It was fun. It was fun. It was fun.

Yeah. It's probably pretty personal. It's okay. You know, I think it's so. It's so necessary.

And I'm so glad that we all went through it. But it was like. It was really, really tough. And I think there are. There's these like endemic dynamics that exist and they're sort of like almost, I feel

like they're passed down. Like it's almost like epigenetic. You know, like these things about a stepmother and how fraught that relationship is and why. And I understand why because, you know, kids can feel like they're being sort of

demoted. Yeah. And they're not. But they can feel like if there's a new parent that comes in. And it can cause, you know, a lot of, um, a lot of disturbance.

So it was hard. It was really hard at the beginning. Did you do like family therapy?

We never did family therapy altogether.

But we, I don't know. It just like ended up, I did a lot of work on myself. And around like, why is this so triggering and why are my feelings so hurt

“and why am I having like these non adult reactions to a child?”

Yeah. You know? Yeah. And they ended up teaching me so much. And I'm so, I really am so grateful that I traversed through all of that.

But it was, it was rough. But now it's amazing. And they're all best friends. They're just like, closer. You know, they're siblings.

That's like the beauty of life. Didn't you like, aren't you? Don't you have a, it's like conscious. I just like, you know, I was going to say. Is that you?

Tell me about it. Tell me about it. It's like, oh, it's like another, like, I would say like, Like an inventor. Yeah, defining things of like culture.

Basically, so I was married to a guy named Chris. And we lived in London. And we decided we were going to get a divorce. We were going to separate. And, you know, and we, we, we really sat down and thought like,

Is there a way that we could do this? Because this is like, very me. But when I was getting divorced, I was like, How, how do I do this? So I talked to all my friends who came from a divorce household.

“And I said, tell me, what was the worst thing?”

Like, what do you feel you have scars from to this day? And they said, you know, it wasn't really so much the divorce. Because like, you're a kid. And you, yes, of course, the idea of it is terrible. But you sort of get used to that quickly.

They said, the worst part was, like, my parents, you know, My dad used to drop me off at the end of the driveway. Like, it was so tense at my birthday parties.

You know, they never ate dinner in the same room until my college graduation.

And it caused me so much pain. So I, I was like, how could we not do that? Like, is there a way where you can sort of circumvent all of that awful stuff when no one is in the same room and get to the like graduation where you're all having dinner at the same table?

So, of course, and I had this therapist that was really brilliant. And he sort of introduced us to the concept. And we just like made a commitment to really put the kids first. And so what that meant was to stay a family, even though we weren't a couple.

Yeah. Were there times where you were just like not, because I imagine if you're getting into a divorce, there are like stressful things relationship-wise, but then you just like were forced to just put on like a smile

or was there like space to kind of talk to your kids about?

I remember like one particular heart.

Like we moved to LA,

“and we used to have brunch every Sunday, the four of us.”

And I remember one, it's like early on in the thing. Chris and I were upset with each other about something. I can't even remember what it is. And I was like, this might go really off the rails.

And then we like, it was getting tense. And we like looked at each other. We went outside on the front porch. And we're like, let's just not.

Let's just not. Let's just not. Let's just like, and we just hugged. And we're like, "Okay, we've just bumped." And then we went to brunch.

What year did you guys divorce? We divorced. I think we separated in 20. 13. And then we divorced.

Maybe in 14 or 15 or something like that. Maybe 15.

I met your kids when they were like babies.

You did. And like. How many kids did you have in 2010? Two. Okay.

Yeah, they were like babies. I met. Because yeah, they were born in O4 and O6. I was like, I was like, I was like living at Jay-Z and Beyonce's house.

And I just remember. You weren't there, though. It was like, they were like there for some reason.

“I think like Chris came and picked them up.”

They were like, "I don't even know what was happening." But I don't know if the vagus from memory of just like meeting them when they were like babies. I just thought of that. Just that we shouldn't have happened.

100%. Yeah, there's. Now they're like full. I know. Are you a strict parent?

I wouldn't say I'm strict.

I think I'm, I think I'm principle. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, it's really important. And like kids are going to do that stuff.

Yeah. Like they're just going to. So you can either. Pretend they're not. And like be in denial.

And with the fucking program. Or just get, you got to get with the program. Like they're going to do. And I remember my dad said something to me once. When I was like, I, when I was in my late 20s, I sort of a pot.

I was like, I was having coffee with the dad. And I was like, I'm sorry. I was like such a pain when I was a teenager. Like because I was sneaking out. Yeah.

You know, hanging out the windows smoking cigarettes. And I was, you know, and I grew up in New York City. And like, you know, I was like, out of bars before in the morning. All the things. And I was like, I'm really sorry.

And he said, you know what? You were bad. And exactly the ways you are supposed to be bad as a kid. He said, as a parent, you only ever worry if your kid is like outside the box. Right.

And you were inside the box. So my kids were inside the box naughty. Like it was not. You were after, like, the conversation where you're like, I can't believe I'm having this conversation.

I love those conversations. Really? Why do you love those conversations? Because I think they're so. It's like where the best part of life happens.

Yeah. You know, where like, because they're emerging as their real self. And they're like presenting something to you. And they're gauging like how you're going to take it. And are you going to accept them fully?

And are you going to be their friend and ally? And I just love it. Was it hard for them having famous parents? Like, do they? Or are they just, I feel like they kind of did a good job of.

Yeah. When does a kid? It's a good question. So good question.

“So Lena have been talking about, like, how do we raise the kid?”

How do you do it? Like when does a kid know like, whoa, like, what? Like. As soon as they become like more sentient. And they understand like, you just know what that means.

You know, they're, you're like at a restaurant. And someone comes up and they're like, sorry to bother you. And the kids are like, you know, maybe they're three, maybe they're four. But they're like, they start to see, like, why is this happening to my mom and not like, Freddie's mom?

And it's sort of a slow process. I mean, I think my kids have handled it really well. I have to say, like, it's, it's an ugly world out there. And like, you know, to be the child of a celebrity or two celebrities. And then they both want to go into the arts.

And so, you know, which I'm totally supportive of. I think it's amazing. But, you know, I think it's like, it's just other pot holes. Right? It's like, every kid has something.

And they have this weird thing, you know? Check, tell, tell her your life all during experience with the phone call. With when you run the phone and just a David coming in. You know, actually, my brain was going to a different childhood story during this. And so I'll tell the story.

And then I'm curious. We can play the game of if I was your son. And I was like 13 when this happened. And you caught your son doing this. What would happen?

Okay. And when you tell the other one, sure. Sure. Uh, okay. So I was a boy, suburban Philadelphia.

And I had a neighbor across the street who was like a year younger than me. Two years younger than me. You know, we were at the same bus stop.

Never really communicated.

“Uh, but she would, she would smoke cigarettes on her, on her.”

She had the top floor, her bedroom, and she would smoke cigarettes. And oftentimes, she would smoke cigarettes and just a bra. And I, I have this in your apartment building. No, this is in my house. So just across the street.

Oh, across the street. Like a suburban street. I'm in a home. And she's on a street. And she's like on the top floor.

She's got like this kind of like, and then sometimes she would sit on the roof. And, and smoke. It's very margotten. Yeah. Yeah.

I tell you, there was, there was a brutal consistency with like every night. She showed up and she would smoke. She wasn't always in a bra. But it was just like, and I got to tell you. I got to be honest with you.

I got to pair up binoculars. And I look so forward. I never like masturbated or anything. But I was turned on by the experience. And I was really--

You were peeping tops? I wasn't keeping time, I guess. Um, and I just found it exhilarating. And I thought I also felt shame. And so if you saw me do it once and then didn't say anything.

And then you realized I was kind of noticed I was doing it every night. Would you say something? Am I wrong? What's going on?

“Wait, so, so are you saying the girl noticed that you did it every night?”

No, no, no. No, no. No idea. I was a fly on the wall. Okay.

She knew your parents knew you were doing it. No, I'm not. No, I'm not a child. I'm a radical thing. I haven't even told many people the story.

But I was like, you told me the story. You told me the story. You told me the story. Okay. I mean, I don't.

I think that we are way too hard on ourselves and our children when sexuality is emerging. And for some reason, we as kids end up pairing our sexuality and shame. And it's really hurtful. And it's like, it's not good. So I don't think you did anything wrong.

I think if the girl's on the roof and a bra smoking, like, you know, rather than acting or something like that, right? She might have known. I just think that that's actually very sweet. And, you know, not at all like a creepy thing.

Like, I think that's very, very natural. And I do, I really do think it's hard for parents to talk to. They're kids. It's like hard to navigate that water with, I don't know, we would do with. But this is like a story from the 1950s.

I feel like the back to the future. It's like you. Okay. You tell your thing. Okay.

So her son probably knows the story because it was in your show. I did put this show. This was the finding scene of my life that I made a defining scene of my TV show about my life. Okay. Basically, I was not the guy that got the girls.

But I was really funny and I was everyone's best friend. And for whatever reason, one day I had, I was just hanging out with, like, you know, I would be like best friends with, like, the cool, pretty girls. And I was hanging out with two of them. And they just decided to let me feel their breasts.

Like I'd never felt any girls breasts before.

Now two girls were all kind of a blue. And this was, like, an isolated and incredible. They were friends, right? They were my friends. But it was like, never did, I did not ever see the stay coming.

I thought maybe one of them would fall in love with me eventually, which he did for a month. But on this day, sure does. It does. I didn't take advantage of the month.

Oh, but what would she grow as I can? All right. Get back to the school. Oh, yeah. My first love.

Beliepet. Please believe it. Don't let her know. Here they were. Two girls offering me their breasts.

I felt them at the same time. We part ways. One thing that did happen in that moment, by the way. This is going to be a lot of information. Okay.

They, after that, they said, now can we feel you. And I was not ready for that. And I also, like, had, like, I was born with penis issues. And I had surgery on my penis as a baby. And so, like, I was so far from being ready for this.

Ask your son about the penis issues. I said this is on the TV. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Season one episode three. Okay. You got one episode one. You get the penis story.

My rap name is Lil Dickie in part because of this penis story. This is the seminal moment of this penis story. Okay. So I say, no, thank you. But it wasn't that.

Didn't feel that weird. Anyways, I get home. And I call my, one of my best friends. And I tell him everything that just happened. And he's like, you fought both them up at the same time.

I'm like, yes.

“Then they tried to, they said, do you want us to feel you?”

And then all of a sudden I hear my mom say, David, hang the phone up right now. And then, and I love my mom so much. Oh. Which is actually that hang the phone up right now and come to the room. And I love my mom.

And I guess I'll ask her if anyone sees this. I already put it in my show. So mom, it's already been documented. Anyways, so then I go upstairs. And my parents kind of proceed to kind of lecture me about how I'm moving with the crowd.

That's like too fast for me. And little did she know that like, you know, I'm the last kind of every single bass. And I found the whole thing so triggering that I literally broke down in tears. And I said, like, was it, what is it even matter? Like, my dick's too fucked up.

Never show a girl anyways.

And then she was like, I had no idea that like you were even thinking about this. And, um, yeah, and there was just nothing.

I remember being there.

“I can't, I like, I had the, the where we saw to think I can't believe I'm like,”

crying in front of my parents about like, how my dick isn't functional. It's a good people to cry. I think so. Yeah, I love my parents so much. And my favorite people in the world.

So nice. Yeah, I'm so lucky to be raised. But I talked to your mom about this. And you probably went to this where when you have like a boy and you, like, you're, like, you change their diapers.

You're, you're so, like, a part of their life. And then she was like, one day, obviously, you grew up. And she was like, you're dad and her.

Just never talked about your penis.

Yeah, because they like, because they didn't want to make you uncomfortable. So they don't. His penis isn't sane. What's wrong with it? No, it's not insane.

No. What do you mean? It's sane in one way. In the membrane. It basically, basically.

Okay, I'll give you a three second little synopsis. Um, he has a thing called hypospatius. Okay. So if you look at a man's penis, you know how the holes in the middle. Yeah.

His hole is underneath. But does it look, his dick is ripped off? I think so. Mm-hmm. Are you satisfied?

Yes. His dick is made of testicles. And he also, he also, if he doesn't shave his penis, he gets hair. All the half till the very top of his penis. I feel that we should not be laughing at this.

What? No, it's everything in the world. I realize that his dick is dick. His dick could make world peace. If you own this penis, I've ever seen my entire life.

Wow. He also, he also can pee out of, he has two people. That's to me as the most interesting detail. When I pee, you know, out of the normal hole, which obviously is on the kind of the underside of my dick. Instead of the middle of the head.

But then also, there's like, this one small hole that you can't even see, like with your own two eyes. But it does like, there's this in such a thin ray. Let's talk about CLR Brands. How old are you? Well, I was just going to ask you Dave.

What? Have you ever cleaned a bathroom? I've picked up after myself.

But you never cleaned one.

From the ground up? Yeah. No. Do you? Yes.

Well, let me get started. With CLR Brands Calcium Lime and Rush from over, I can get on my hands and knees and scroll. And I'm ready. And I think she would like that. And a blast Calcium dissolves lime and zaps.

All that rust.

“You're talking to the Sims Force and Starland Girl?”

Yeah. So next time I'm in the bathroom, I'm going to look around. And I'm going to see what areas I can spray. I'm not much of a cleaner. I do other things.

But now that you have. But I can become. And I will be gone. Learn more at CLR Brands.com/peptalk. Can I talk to you about eBay life?

Or would love if you talk to anybody very large? eBay life. It's got to keep a village guy. I mean, this is, look. Let them see.

That's cool. This is happening in front of everybody. I feel like this is where eBay belongs. Like, they've been, this is eBay. It's good that they're continuing to add on.

Add on to that. Keep building. Keep changing. Keep changing. Keep evolving.

Keep having fun. Did you say something? Yeah. I would love that. What do you want?

That's sports card. Something. Something rookie. Yeah. I can use something rookie right now.

What do you realize? Baseball? Yeah. What do you want? Oh, honey.

Oh. [LAUGHTER] Did you say, oh, honey? Isn't it all high? Oh, you're talking much.

“Oh, I thought you said to me, oh, honey.”

Like, no, I was-- Oh, honey. Oh, honey. [LAUGHTER] eBay live is live.

Interactive shopping on the eBay app. Watch live shop live. I got three questions off the bat for you right now. I was looking at taking notes when I was in the bathroom earlier. And they're all, they all--

Are they all penis-related? They're all sexual related. Okay, let's see. One. Tell me about when you started the whole, like,

Yoni crazed thing, like, the steaming. What would tell me it? Tell me about this. You know, this is so crazy. So we put a listing.

There was a day spot in Santa Monica. I forget the name of it. And we put a listing for this spot. It was great because they have, like, a Himalayan salt room. And they had a sauna.

And this is a while ago. This is, like, in 2013. And it was--

And they had amazing, like, you know,

those, like, deep tissue, Asian, orages where it's, like, that, you know, pain, pleasure, threshold thing. And just in the listing, we said that it's this Korean spot.

And one of the things they offered was a Yoni steam, which we thought was so interesting. It's, like, we sit on this thing. And then they put herbs. And then they steam your Yoni.

And apparently it's-- Makes sense to me. He cleansing. And it's-- And Yoni is a vagina.

Yoni is a vagina. Yoni is a vagina. I don't know what language-- I didn't even know what it was at the thing. Like, they had to describe it.

Well, it was like, how? Because it says, like, the woman, you know, sits on a hollowed out seed.

Like, it was really clear.

Yeah. So we didn't even do it. Like, we didn't even test it out. It was just in the listing. Yeah.

And it blew up. And it was, like, headlines all over the world. So then we were like, we better go get a Yoni steam and see what this is all about. Yeah.

And it was fantastic. It was. Yeah. Yeah, there's like ceremonies where they do, like-- It was so nice.

“Does it, like, even out the pH balance or something?”

I think that's-- I don't-- I can't make claims. I don't know what it does. But all in all-- It was great. It felt great.

Okay. Now, my next question-- Okay. 100% sure you know what's going on. Okay.

Okay. Wait. What? To hear it. I want to know about the vagina candle.

Okay. Because obviously, you knew what you were doing with that. This isn't, like, you stumble upon a thing. And you're like, well, they got vagina candles. You're the manufacturer.

You're the manufacturer? Wait, how about that? No, she's the manufacturer. No, she's the manufacturer. I am, but.

So this is the true story of how this happened. I loved it. So I have a very, like, a very body sense of humor. And nobody really knows that side of me. I don't know why.

But I just-- I don't-- you know, it's like my closest circle.

“Like, when I get to know you guys better or when we're not being filmed,”

you'll know what I'm talking about. I think we know with the vagina candle. So I-- [laughter]

I was working on a perfume scent for Goop with this amazing nose,

named Douglas Little. And I like things that smell kind of unusual. Like, I would see leathery. Like, I like that kind of, you know, like, our first perfume was called Church.

Like, you know, it's, like, incense-y. And I like sort of unusual smell. Your house smells great. We were, like, experimenting with, like, tomato leaf. This is, like, way before the tomato candle got, you know.

And seaweed. There were all these amazing, like, kind of, earthy, beautiful. And so I said to him, "I go with this one." Like, this one smells like my vagina. As a joke, we were laughing.

So he-- he's, like, this is brilliant. This is so funny. So he thought I was serious. And made a candle called this smells like my vagina. And my team, like, bought the candle.

I thought I was joking. And anyway. So the truth is-- It doesn't smell like your vagina. Correct.

It was just a joke. It was a joke. It was just a joke. It just smells like my vagina. It just smells like my vagina.

And I said, "There's, I mean, all-- Well, I'm talking about my vagina." I just smelled it. I said, "There's no way this smells like your vagina." It's like, it's, like, such a crazy smell.

I just smell like my vagina. It's like, "It's like a crazy smell." It's like, "It's like a crazy smell." It's like, "It's like a crazy smell." I think people think that.

I think people don't. not smell like my vagina, and it became such a big thing that we actually stopped selling it because it was like distracting people from what we were doing. You know, we had to pay so much money, I tried to get one for today and we got it and we had to be like, like, on the black market, and like, six hundred dollars.

And that's like, crazy. I should just make them again. You should make that. You should make that. Well, you give me six hundred dollars, so I'll give you, I'll give you a group kitchen voucher

for six hundred dollars. I don't want any of that. I would take anything you're going to give. Okay. I'll give you each of a giant a candle and a, and a, and a Caesar wrap with dressing in it.

Mixed in. Don't. You can make it the day. You know, why? Because when I, like, you know, when you get feedback that someone's not happy with something,

like it's, I will now be thinking about this and how to solve this problem for you. Maybe it, there's no, there's clearly a tradeoff between sagginess of wrap. There's a reason that it's not being tossed. I'm sure some thought of that. I know.

That is why. That is why. But I wonder if there's certain wraps that just get less soggy, but the thing is, our wraps are these grain-free wraps, you know, so it's not like it's a really durable flower. And I wrap.

That's probably it. It's better that you can dip it because sometimes when you get a wrap and it's so, like, maybe it's not that soggy. Maybe to another, just one more, maybe people thought it'd be soggy, and they said, this'll be soggy.

Okay. I'm going to, I'm going to make you your own. Okay. I have another question. Okay.

What is it? And I'm, I'm so, like, how you say you're, like, sling a laughs at me. I'm, couldn't be worse with, like, pop culture.

Like, she's always like, how do you not, you know, like, the most obscure thing in the

world, but you have no idea, like, who, like, whatever some person is, you're like, you know, everything. No, I know. I know stuff because of her. No.

I do. I do. I do. I do not know. I do not.

She makes fun of me because I don't know, like, I don't know who the actors are. I don't know, like, with the people's names are, I don't know, like, I feel you know. Yeah. I really don't, like, like, I have, I don't know all music. Yeah, yeah.

Music. I had, like, I had, like, one of the most embarrassing experiences on some, like, late night show. You didn't know the host? No.

“I didn't know, I didn't know Millie Bobby Brown, and I was like, who's Millie Bobby Brown?”

And it was like, and I felt so embarrassed that I reached out to her afterwards.

This wasn't like a dish. I literally just didn't know. He was.

I've never seen that show.

Yeah. I've never seen it. It's good. I hear it's great. I got to see it.

I watched the wayway. Okay. But, okay. So I don't even know if I'm right. And I probably really stupid.

And, but I think I'm right. Okay.

“When you were like way younger, you dated Brad Pitt, right?”

I did. You did. Okay. I'm right. How old were you when you dated it?

I was like 22 to 20 like four or five. And it's he and older man or he was the same age. He was older. So he's, I believe he was nine years older than me. Okay.

So now I have that. I have a question. Right now. Yeah. So like in my head.

So everything's playing out. Like I thought it would in my head. Okay. Okay. Now like where you just like, was it like, oh my God.

This is like, because you like grew up watching him on like movies and stuff, right? I grew up. I remember like, yes, seeing like film on the ways in the movie. Yeah. And then you're like, that is the most handsome.

Yeah. And then you're just like sitting here one day and you're like, Yeah. Like, is that insane? And does your dad get annoyed if you tell the story?

No. I mean, my, my new Brad. Your husband has been. You only date guys. He had someone case you mess up on the news.

Yeah. Okay. No, Brad. Brad Falchuk knows he's the total love of my life. Yeah.

He shows the package. It's crazy. He is like my best friend. He is the most brilliant, gorgeous. He's like, he's so hot.

It's been madness. I see him without his shirt. I'm about how hot he is. Yeah. I see him without his shirt on.

“And I'm like, I always say things like when I go home.”

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I say things. I say things to my friends. Like because we work out like with him sometimes.

And I say things like, oh my God. Like if I could ever look like forget it like at his age. Like if I could ever look like him physically. He has the perfect body of what? Like it's not like true.

He's so hot. Just type in Brad Fulchuk shirt list. He's like the hottest Jewish guy in the ever made. Yeah. And he made like every.

Like every. Jackie made like every show. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see.

Brad. Okay. So you're like. Yeah. No, entirely.

So I got cast in the movie. Did you see that? Oh yeah. We were talking about that movie. We were talking about that head.

Your head? Yeah. She's like. I love that movie. Okay.

So you get cast in the movie with Brad. So I get cast in the movie with Brad. And I met him on set.

And like we had like kind of a love at first sight thing.

It was pretty awesome. It was really fun. And where you go home and tell your parent. Like because he was so much older and also okay. I don't know.

I thought like Fred like. Yeah. But were you. Were you like. Oh, he's like an older.

He would know because he was so beautiful. And he was I think he was 31. And I was 22. So it was. He's high.

Oh, so this guy's Jewish? Yes. Do you see him shirtless? Looks like he's like Moroccan. Yeah.

Do you see him shirtless? Well his dad was Venezuela. You saw him shirtless, right? I see that. He eats pizza like once a year.

He works out. Yeah. He works out constantly. Yeah. He works out constantly.

Yeah. He works out constantly. Yeah. He works out constantly. Yeah.

He works out constantly. Yeah. He works out constantly. Yeah. Yeah.

There was like tons of pop rats. Did this thing like break out like was it like a... It broke out. It broke out. It was like the biggest thing.

You know, I didn't think anything. You know, I didn't. This is how this is how crazy this is. I didn't even know. Slingers.

Like thought I was like so dumb. Do you know?

“I had no idea that Brad Pitt did or I think he was married to Jennifer Anderson.”

No idea. Didn't even know that was a thing. Yes. Like funny. I swear on my life, my mother will die today.

If it like didn't. Good for Pitt. Didn't. Well, no. He's lying.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I did not know. I thought it was only Brad in the beginning.

And then Slingers told me, no, that was like the whole thing that went and Slingers and Brad got together. Yeah. Broke up like this. He must.

I was going to say he's movies. Okay. So 20. Where are you going to meet somebody? Yeah.

Were you before Jennifer Evans? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it breaks.

It breaks open. And like, are you like, are you? Were you like in bed?

Was this like your first public relationship?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's sort of like, and I had movies coming out. So I was sort of getting famous on my own.

And I was famous. So this is girlfriend. And it was like a very, you know. Yeah. Was it like overwhelming at the beginning?

It was overwhelming. I'm right for saying that. You, he proposed. Didn't he? Yes.

We were engaged. We were engaged. We were engaged. Yeah. I don't know anything.

Like you could have so many other relationships that I didn't know about. All I knew is, and I just found out the Brad Pitt thing. And you like, I think one of you guys, who is the person who said?

Yeah. She said. I heard I heard you on a podcast, which I knew that you guys had dated. But I did not.

“You should tell them the story because didn't, if you, if you care to talk about it,”

I feel like it's probably annoying to keep talking about that. I don't know. Any of it. It's not annoying to me. But you must have had to, you broke.

Because you didn't get married, right? We didn't get married. It's a break up engagement. We, it was. I'm just uncappling.

I think that was your first goal at it.

I don't know. I was just young and, you know, we were working all over the different parts of the world. And it just, I think it was just. Did it feel like a fantasy more than a reality? No.

I mean, that's a good question. I like that question. I do like that question. I mean, I think there was an aspect of it that was very heavy. You know, it was very young and he was this beautiful movie star.

But he's, he's a great guy. And I, I love him to this day. He's a friend. He didn't fight club yet. No, that was after.

He was in my show. Well, you love working with. He's like, to me. Such a great guy. Yeah.

And you guys broke up, did you feel? Because I feel like any public break up is. I couldn't imagine. But also to be so young. Yeah.

To be engaged to a movie star. Did you feel like you had to, like, let go of this, like. Just like fantasy or like dream that you were like attaching to yourself. Or know you were. I was like, I was so bummed down when we broke up.

“And I think that the press aspect and all that makes it feel larger than life.”

Yeah. In a way, like it had, you've to carry this, like, faux, important. Like cultural, important, important piece. And it's like this extra burden and this extra, almost shame. Like, you know, didn't work out or whatever.

So it was, it was, it was hard. Was it hard? I was just thought about this. So like, the press of when you and Chris broke up. Yeah.

Was that hard on your children? Like, all the publicity around it. At the time. Were they so young that it didn't? They were pretty young.

Yeah. And we, it's so funny. We went. We, we kind of went to this island in the exume as the four of us. What was the fix?

No, not with the pay. Okay. But we went to this island. No, there's a famous island. Yeah, we swim with the picture.

Yeah. Yeah. What the fuck? All the time I have her.

Here's what we talk about exume.

It's just a funny thing that I know I did with it. Thank you. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. You'll know about the pictures.

Yeah, but the point is we went, like, really far away. All four of us is a family. And then we kind of like dropped the news. And then we didn't come home for another week or so. Yeah.

And they were, we were all the four of us were all together. Yeah. Yeah. Sleeping in separate beds. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then, but they were young. And, you know, we did the best we could with it.

And, you know, famous such a strange thing, you know. And, especially in the culture today with all the social media and the amplification. Yeah. The shot and Freud. And, you know, it's tough.

It's, you know, I mean, listen. Like, it's also incredible. Like, the best part is, and you will agree with me here. You can get a great generation, right? And it's like pretty great.

Yeah. But there's, you know, there's, there's definitely some hard things that come with it, like, being, you know, so publicly criticized or, you know, you worry about your kids and their feelings. Like, so that it was, it was a tough time. How have you, because I feel like you've been in the public for so long and you've definitely

have been, even, like, the, the candle.

I just, like, I remember hearing, like, you've always kind of had a lot of positive things.

But then always, yeah. Negative things. How do you detach? I mean, it takes, it takes a while, right?

“Because it's like, I think when we're young, like, it's very hard not to be attached to your ego.”

And your ego is what feels the pain of being criticized. And think as you go through, and, you know, I've also done a ton of therapy. And I've really tried to take it, like, I really do believe that we're always where we are meant to be. Even, like, on the heart, especially on the hardest days. Especially on the, in the circumstances where you're like, why is this happening to me?

And I really think that those are, like, the character-making moments. And, you know, for me, when I have felt really criticized. Like, if I went through a phase where we really hurt my feelings, then I went through a phase where I was like, you know, if someone's saying something, I started to notice that if someone said something bad about me and it wasn't true or Like, that stopped hurting my feelings.

I was like, whatever. This isn't even true. I never said that or like, I wasn't even there or blah, blah, blah. But sometimes things would still hurt my feelings. And then I thought to myself, well, why does sometimes it doesn't hurt?

It doesn't hurt when it's not true. But it hurts when it's true.

I am holding this judgment against myself.

Yeah.

“And that's why it hurts to call that, right?”

Yeah. Like, you know, I don't know. Inpatient or I, you know, it's like, but if you're not already holding that judgment against yourself, it doesn't hurt your feelings. Yeah.

So that I kind of tried to work on that. Well, like, damn, I need to forgive myself for holding this particular judgment against myself. And now I'm kind of in this phase where I'm like, and I'm not totally there yet, but I'm like, God, wouldn't it be so interesting to be able to just hold misperceptions and not react? Like, truly not be triggered. Like, what would that be, like, that kind of sort of mastery of like,

untouchable. I'm not treated at all. You're not? No. Ever?

No. Not true. By comments that people write? Oh, well, yeah, general. I don't think, I think it's both.

I think it's both. I'm just talking about like, yeah, when something negative. Yeah.

Is written about no, never.

You're never. I mean, I'm not, I'm not. No, no, not much anymore, but I definitely want to have her feeling. It's all, I think it's different for men and women. And she's also been doing it.

You've been in the public, guys, and she were like, yeah, yeah. For men and women, it's much different. Yeah, it's different. And, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, we do live in the sexist. Yeah, they criticize when, like, seeing like all the stuff people see.

I mean, you're married to a famous, one of the most famous, you know, like, yeah, yeah. It's a, it's a beating all the time. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. It's, it's, it's, it's like the mental Olympics. It's, it's a, you have to really,

you have to really detach from it.

“You have to really, like, turn inward and know your worth,”

know yourself, know the worth of your relationships, and try to just like, there's no such thing as doing, like, if you're a female and your famous, there's no way to be right.

Ever, like, it's all, there's, like, always,

like, someone is always gonna say something. Like, if she does, that thing that's right, they're gonna be like, no, this was wrong because of this. If she does it, that's another thing that she's gonna be on. And I remember one time she was giving advice to someone,

and she was like, somebody tells me, I'm doing something wrong every day. She said, you know, she said, the person in the United States makes statements about me. She said, I can't, she said, if I spend,

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Yeah. It's inevitable that. That's the good. You keep going. You don't understand. When you want to bet at night, you don't have like, what a circular thoughts are like,

there's nothing like, what's keeping you awake? Like is it really, are you truly at a place where you're kind of like, I have tough skin? I don't have to kind of fall for maybe all of the fame stuff that you properly did when you were younger.

But now you have like a family and you have kids and you have a business like, what do you, what's keeping you up at night? I mean, so that kind of public stuff does not keep me up at night.

hormonally right now. And so I get like, I get hormone-duced anxiety. And I'll get like these crazy thoughts. Yeah.

Like, where, I don't know, I've never had anxiety in my life.

Really? And this is like a new thing in the last year. It is truly horrible. Like, I struggle, you know? How often does it come?

It comes like one to month. We're going to struggle with our miscellal anxiety. But I never did. It's only hormonal. I never believe anything my mom says about anything.

And when we were on the way here, she's upstairs. She said, because, you know, I suffer for laughter and anxiety. She goes, you gotta talk to Gwen at the bout anxiety. I just recently read, she's suffering from anxiety. Yeah.

And I go, "Mom, are you sure it's not an AI video or something?" Because she always is wrong. But it's true. No, it's true. It's true.

Don't come down yet, but it's true. So you've experienced it now.

So I never had anxiety in my whole life.

And now with hormonal stuff. I'm like, not every night, thank God. But I'm like, "Rit, I'm like overcome with anxiety." How do you calm it down? Not based on anything like meditation, breathing exercises.

But it's hard. It's like a lot of time. Are you allowed to say it? Are you allowed to say you pop, do you smoke weed? You know, I don't smoke weed. Do you eat it?

No. It won't help with anxiety. Oh, my God, it helps me so much with anxiety. No, I've never been a weed person. You know, I like, "Oh, do you don't weed?" Yeah, yeah.

And it was just really not. Like, you truly, like, it was like a... Like, I was hallucinating. Yeah, I like, I weigh over it and... And then I've tried it obviously a few times since then,

but, like, it doesn't work for me at all. Good drink. I used to drink. I drink, like, I probably drink one drink a week. Why?

Because it racks my sleep. Yeah, I'm not a student. Do you notice sleep you're talking about it? I know because... Yeah, I can't drink.

“The only thing I can drink is sake, a little bit.”

It doesn't really mess with it. But if I have, like, two drinks, I like, can't sleep. I know. I think, is it the sugar in the alcohol?

You know, I don't know because actually, alcohol doesn't spike your blood sugar. So I can't figure this out. Like, even wine, like, diabetics can drink wine because it doesn't spike the blood sugar.

So if it doesn't spike the blood sugar, I'm wondering why... I think it's things. I think because... Yeah, for me... Yeah, there's, like, a dope...

Like, when I... Drink the dye. Drink the dye. Yeah. And then you have the, like, the shift in hormones.

Like, in your body, I think it's, like, adjusting to the state it was before you kind of had the drug. It's not worth it. What's the one... Treatment thing that you would say is the biggest...

As you get into your 30s. Yeah. Like, maintenancey... Good... I don't care how much money it is.

It's just, like, the best outcome.

“I mean, I think I really think it's multi-pronged.”

Like, I think it really is... Good nutrition, hydration, sleep. You know, trying not to eat too many process foods, alcohol, stuff like that. Sugar, sugars, aging, alcohols...

Aging, alcohols, aging. And then, topically, you know, like, good, a good, like, clean, retinal serum is good. Like, we make a great peptide serum that's, like, um, within a medical journal.

It really... Yeah. It's, like, called the youth boost peptide. And, like, the before and afters are amazing. Like, for fine lines and wrinkles.

When do you put it on? Morning and night. I'll be coming in. I'm groupified right now. I do.

I do. I do. I do. - I really come this thing that like, it's like, how you know as a woman, what is kind of like the stamp of approval?

- No, I always look, I'm like embarrassed that sometimes, like, because I'm like the one who's always finding all this stuff.

Sometimes if I'm like, looking, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna be embarrassed. Oh, I just saw a thing on Goop where it says, like, good hotels this day.

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I've been like, every once in a while, I'll try to find there was like Goop plates. - They were, you mean they're like the one with the sheenwazerie on it? - Yeah, they're the most beautiful place I've ever seen. - And they're dishwasher safe. - They're so... - You, you mind sending her a few? - Oh, they're gone!

- They're gone, they were a couple of times on eBay. - You know, it was a family. - Wait, you can buy 'em on eBay, but you can't handle it. - I just bought for $500. - I tried to buy 'em on eBay, but we're gonna reimburse you for the queue. - Well, thank you. I think it was $600. - Okay, it was not. - I'm gonna reimburse you. - It might have been $500, I'll let you know.

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