The Hunter Biden Episode

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- Real presidential in here, right? I mean, this is our field, it's in the air. - He's not a president anywhere. - I know he's a president. - He's a president of the political realm.

- He's a political friend. - He's a political friend. - He's a political friend. - He's never been to a president on this show.

“- I think some of our guests are very, like...”

- Oh, what are you talking about? - He's like, "That's his, he's a fan, "he's a fan, "trayer." - He's like, "Oh, he's against us." - You're supposed to be on our team. - Do you? - I don't even know that I want to get political. That's kind of why I'm a strategist.

- Whoa! - Whoa! - Hello! - Hey! - Hey, thank God for what I wanted to thank you. - I'm going in for our conversation. - Yeah, I'm going in for our conversation. - Well, I went under our-- - Oh, that was cool.

- You strong back! - Oh, it's just coming for you. Whether you like it or not. - We're talking about way too politically. - He should model. - Are you saying I should do only being?

- We're talking about Cracklake. I'll talk about Cracklake.

I have no shame. - This is amazing.

- Unbelievable. - What's savory? - What's my art? - Wow! You're amazing! - I'll put the air in. - Oh, yeah, they're real. - Really? - You have a freestyle before? - No, I'm trying. - Getting the streets.

[laughing] - He's the only person who's ever said I have a problem. - He's like, "Fill this back." - Yeah, yeah. - I did a few strokes. - Yeah, yeah. - We're going to work out your back? - No, but I paint it.

- Do you work out? - Yeah. - No, I work out. Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, but, you know, I'm not enough to have a strong job. - Trying for the cage fight with Don Jr. - Oh, yeah. - Tell us a little bit about this.

“- Tell us about this. You wanted it to happen, right?”

- Oh, my God. I'm 56 years old. - You look athletic, though. - Oh, thank you. - Yeah. - You look as compliments. - You look like, you know what you look like. You look like a guy who'd be wearing a shirt like me

and be rolled up and there'd be a pack of cigarettes. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. - You got great teeth. - Those are real teeth? - No, they're great. - When'd you get 'em? - After smoking too much crack for a long time. - Really? - Really?

- No, it wasn't, I mean, I, you know, I got, I had caps. I had knocked two of my teeth out when I was playing football. - Yeah. - 'Cause people often hear us. - One dentist told me that it is, like, I grew up on well water. - Yeah, so I didn't have enough fluoride in the water.

- We're talking way too politically. - Yeah. - Yeah. - You know, I wanted him to stick his head back. - I wanted him to stick his head back. - But by the way, according to RFK, it's like, you know, turning people into, I wasn't thinking too much politically.

- Can I say one thing? Just, I know. - I'm joking. - Taking off, I'm joking. - I don't know enough about politics. - He is truly insane. He's like an amateur taxidermist and there's all of these stories like how he took a bear. There's this one story. He found a dead, baby bear, true story.

And he, like, hike it in the mountains in the Catskills or something. And I don't know exactly where it was. He put it in the back of his car. - Okay. - And he came up with this brilliant idea is that he took the bear with the bicycle and he hid it in Central Park, okay?

And the joke was supposed to be, according to the person that did it with them, is that there was a bear bicycling in Central Park and it fell off into the bushes, okay? - Where you come up with the fucking tables? - I don't know. - Yeah, exactly. - Somebody finds the bear.

And the world goes crazy. It's on the front pages of the New York Times. It's like, this is like, like, 25 years ago. - 'Cause they thought the bear was really bicycling? - No. So they thought a bear had gotten in Central Park. - That makes it worse. - And so, like, all of the animal control

and a welfare and everybody got involved and it became like this national thing, and he literally. And so then they wanted to prosecute the person that had brought the bear into it. And supposedly they got it swept under the rug

and nobody heard about it until someone killed the story. - I saw so many times. - Are you telling the world right now that's just breaking up? - No, no, no, no, no, no. - I don't know what's true or not. - What's part? - Anything in life? - That is all true.

- No, yeah. - I don't know.

“- Yeah, you know, that's what I'm sure you're in me all the time.”

There's things written about me constantly that are online. And I don't read anything, so I don't know. But occasionally they come across my desk and, like, - Are we going to-- - Do you have a computer? - Yeah. - Yeah.

- Maybe I have this old milk that we're not paid by, but we just-- - No, just-- - I'm just-- - Okay, you're not paid by. - No, they're not paid by. - No, they're not paid by. - So you have some kind of sweetener?

- No, you have one sweetener right there. - Let me tell you about that. - That's a simple serum. - Yes, that's a simple serum.

It's a simple serum. - It's always embarrassing

when I have to open our cupboards or a fridge. And I don't know what to do. - I'm a little bit around.

- That's just fine. - I want you to be a castle soup.

- Oh, that's perfect. - Perfect. - We might actually sugar some more, but that's perfect. - You can sit inside the sink. - I don't know what to do. - I don't know what to call the way. - I don't know what to call the way. - I don't know what to call the way. - I don't know what to call the way.

- I don't know what to call the way. - I don't know what to call the way. - Yeah, well, that's a lot of stuff. - That's just a stop. - I'm not a copy of that. - You know, my last addiction is coffee with a little sugar. The worst drug in the world by any measure, by the destruction that it does, by anything is alcohol. - Fuck yeah.

- And yeah, I know you're screwed. And it really is. So I was drinking a gallon of vodka a day while I was smoking crack like every 15 minutes. - What's the best drug in the world? - The best drug in the world.

- You know, that's the thing. - Honestly, answer to the question.

“Is it the one thing about drugs, everybody goes like, why did you?”

Like, it's more crack and like, because it worked really well. Like, it's all of the problem, which was not to be in myself. - Yeah. - And there was no faster way to get out of yourself. At least at the beginning, you know, than that. - Do you feel that as a society?

I just just like a species of humans that we just don't do a good job and like, helping addiction, like, I just can't figure out why. - I think it's 36 million people in America that are either in active addiction or in recovery. - Yeah. - So, what?

That's one out of every 10 people. There's not, like, I just did that intercalation thing, you know, the carnival tour, and I had people that asked the question, like, are you yourself, or by one degree of separation, know someone that is in recovery or in active addiction,

that, like, it has impacted your life in a big way. Someone you love, or, you know, yourself. Every single hand goes up. - Yeah. - Every single hand. And one of the beautiful things about what they did to me

in, like, exposing everything about my life, is that, like, I don't know any secrets. You want to talk about crack cocaine? I'll talk about crack cocaine. I want to talk about, I have no shame over any of it.

- Have you always been that way?

- Oh, no. - No. - I don't really know. - No, I'm first off, I don't even know if it's offensive to say that you're a political person. - Oh, not at all.

- Wait, I don't really know about that. - I'm not sure about that. - I'm politically interested, but yes, yeah. - I have to know one thing. - What about what I was saying?

- 'Cause this goes with that, and then you get to say right after, just 'cause he was just saying it. - No, I was just saying it. - No, I was just saying it. - He was just saying it.

- He was just saying it. - But he was just saying it. - First of all, he was just saying it. - I was just saying it. - I was just saying it.

“- And you kind of, I don't want you, you have to do the footage.”

- So do you feel like when all that stuff came out about you, it like finally set you free? - Yeah, yeah. - That's all I wanted to. - Yeah, no, look, the coolest thing about,

there's not cool isn't the right word. (laughing) - But I get the sentiment. - Yeah, the best. - The thing, the last seven years,

is that number one, I've been sober since June 1st of 2019. - Correct, very cool. - But regardless, is that, is that it was hell.

Like I would never ever wish the global exposure.

They stole my digital footprint of 25 years. Every voicemail, literally, every voicemail, every text message, every picture, every, all of it. - How is that not illegal? - It is, it's like patting illegal.

So the biggest, you know, like the one thing that keeps you like trapped in your addiction, and sometimes not even addiction, in the patterns in your life which don't allow you to like, you know, flourish and be the person you want to be,

is shame. - Yeah. - And there's a saying in the program which is, you know, you're only as sick as your secrets. And the thing about the cycle of shame

“is that you have the secret, like for instance,”

like I smoke crack. Like it's one thing to go back to your family and say, I use cocaine and I need to go away to take care of that. It's another thing to say,

I've been living in motel rooms on I-95 in West, you know, Hampton, you know, - Connecticut. - Well, the eyes on you, which you just do. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, I'm sure it's.

- And much more, when that happened, is like, it's the most liberating thing that you can imagine, if you survive it. - Yeah. - Where do you ever like, why do they care about me?

Like why are you, is it just because, is it just the political nature of like, you being adjacent to your dad? - Yes, and so that the, I didn't ask that because I knew exactly what they were doing.

It didn't, nobody, at the end of the day, nobody does care about me. You know what I mean, except the people that I, that I hope care about? - Yeah.

I've never attempted to run for anything.

“I don't, you know, I'm not serving it in administration,”

any of that stuff. It was all about power. Right when he was elected, my brother, my dad, I'm excuse me, my brother, myself, my sister, and my mom were in a car and, and they both died.

My brother and I spent like two months in hospital. And so, in that period of time, he had made a commitment. He didn't want to go to the Senate, but he got sworn in when he turned 30.

And, and he had made a commitment that he would never buy a stock or a bond. There is no two people that are more different and literally in the world than Joe Biden in Donald Trump.

- Yeah. - So they had to destroy him. And so, why did they destroy him? They do it through his only living son. My brother had just died.

And so, they just like, and by the way, I gave him a lot of fucking amniation. - Oh man, yeah. - I mean, you know, but they stole a lot of amniation. It doesn't make it right that you, like, you create,

and then they created all of these narratives that had nothing to do. You know, they spent seven years investigating me because they had come up with these conspiracies that I had taken a 10 million dollar bribe

from a Ukrainian company and that I was being bought by the Chinese and that I, you know, like they had all of these things. And what they came up with after seven years is that when I was in the thick of my addiction,

I hadn't filed my taxes on time. And when I figured out, I didn't file my taxes on time. I went to the IRS, as soon as I got sober, I went to the IRS, took a loan and paid all my back taxes. - We're also in the throws of addiction.

- Yeah, well, yeah. Which is usually at 100% you do an audit and then you come up with a payment plan with the IRS. - All of the other stuff that they investigated some years, not a single thing.

Like the laptop, the laptop literally proved nothing other than, I had a really, really, really wild time for a two-year period of the year. And it's well documented, yeah. - Like 10 years ago, not seven years ago,

like 12 years ago. - Yeah, yeah. - Were you living life thinking, not even thinking about this stuff

or were you always like a little bit, like the way,

just thinking, my father is a prominent figure. My behavior might be under more scrutiny or to this totally blind side you. - Yeah, you don't, no, I mean, oh, the scrutiny, like as you're talking about here,

before the volume and the vitriol of it, the cruelty of it blind side of me. - Yeah. - Because the one thing about politics is this,

“is everybody says to me, you must be used to this.”

I've been, my dad's been a national figure since I was two years old. Never, ever in the 54 years since then, has it ever been like this? - Yeah.

- Ever. - The cruelty, that level of vitriol, that level of, like, if you don't agree with me, then you or evil, is staggering. - Well, why don't the, I don't know a lot about politics,

my parents are Democrats. - Yeah. - I'm feeling, when I look at all the facts, I would lean Democrat up, but really, I lean logic in humanity at the end of the day.

I'm always just blown away

that I can't look at the Democratic side of the thing and be like, well, at least we have this person who's like the great opponent to what's happening over here. I feel like, where is the person? - Yeah.

- Well, this could it be Benny? - Benny, it could be Benny. - Absolutely. - Yeah, it could it be me. - No, 128, right after the case map.

- There's a few things I have to know. How did it feel going through that with your kids? - I mean, I love my girls more than anything in the world. And I have a little six year old Bowie now too. And they would have to my brother.

And the thing that is the most important to me was that the constant of that. I didn't think about it, like, what was me? Like, I'm being exposed for all of these things. And what I thought about is, like, my daughters

in high school and college that were, that were, that, you know, their friends coming up to them, you know, every 30 seconds. I mean, the New York Post wrote,

“I think, one point five stories every day,”

every day about me for over 18 months. - Oh my God. - I don't understand that every day. - That doesn't include the Daily Mail, which did say that. - One point five.

- Yeah, one point five. - They really fixated, I mean. - I was on the cover of the New York Post more times than anyone in the history of the paper and where they are in the period of time.

- Addiction and all of this stuff impacts so many people and it really impacts the families. And I feel like then to have it just be used as this kind of bait in a-- - Which uses weapon, yeah.

- Use the weapon. The essence of evil is truly to just not see people as humans anymore. And I feel like what's happening to you in my opinion is the definition.

- Yes, do you? - I think you're exactly right.

- Do you remember, it's the true thing? - Yeah. - You can say anything. - Oh, that was about it. You keep going.

(laughing) - We're working hard on it today. - Okay. - Two of you know, but to your point, any that the thing that was the hardest

is that that thought.

“You know, like there's negative thoughts”

you get your mind. Look, what I was able to do because it all came crashing down, right? When I met Melissa, Melissa and I met by chance, I'd moved out to LA, didn't tell anybody

where I was in my family. - Wow. - And I planned to disappear. Like one way or another I was gonna disappear.

And I didn't have the truth is,

I just didn't have the courage to do it the fast way. - Wow. - And so I was living from hotel room to hotel room until I run out of money and I go to a motel

and then I'd be in my car and then I'd figure out how to get my money and then I'd be back. And so I was like surfing around every, every part of LA County. And I was at this place and someone said,

you should be at a friend anyway. I ended up somehow walk into, I'd been on an actual date with a civilian in 23 years. And I walk into a restaurant and this woman had agreed to meet me.

I sat down, I literally came in and I looked at her. I was, I almost did. (laughing) I looked at her in the eyes and I said,

“I know this isn't the way to start a date,”

but I love you. - No, you did. - Oh my God.

- You said that the first thing, first thing I ever said

to her. - That's ridiculous. - That's ridiculous. - Do you think it's ridiculous? - That was constantly on drugs.

But it was the first sober thought I had. I looked and I said, like, listen, I have to tell you the truth. I have a really, really serious problem. I'm addicted to crack cocaine. And when you say crack cocaine to anybody,

the tape that plays in their head and understandably and she just looked at me and she said, well that ends today. - That's where you got her a spot. - Yeah.

- And then 10 days later we got married. - No, that's crazy. - It was and I look at my, if any of my friends can be said, look, I've been smoking crack for the last two years,

but I've met this great girl and we just got married. - Yeah.

“- And I would be like, you gotta go back to one year.”

- Yeah. - I mean, the point of order did that to me. I would tell you, can die. - Yeah. - But it was literally change your life.

- But it was one of those moments that I truly believed that it was whatever you believe in a higher power, God or whatever it was, at least for me. It's time for the real ride, begin from Alyssa, but at least for me was the most mystical magical

woman in life because saved my life. - Yeah. - And not that my dad didn't call me every day that he was out there, not that my daughters didn't, like lay themselves across train tracks for me.

- Yeah. - Is that I had to hear it. - I looked at her and what I saw was someone that loved me for all of me. - Yeah.

- Like knowing everything and that unbiased, my dad is the definition of unconditional love. But the unbiased unconditional love from a stranger, like I saw myself finally. - Yeah.

- And I was ready to forgive myself.

- Man, you know, they always say it's just like,

you can't, you know, having addiction in my family like, you can't help someone until they're ready to help them. - You can't love him out of it. - It doesn't matter how much you love him, how much you have love doesn't matter.

They have to turn that switch in their head. - Do you feel like it's taught you like new things about humanity within yourself that like has given you, like moving forward in life or are you like, had I not, I'm not saying that was a good thing,

but had I not experienced all of these things, I wouldn't be the whole or person that I am today. - 100%. That trial by fire, if you survive it, and you can survive it through love

in my kindness and connection becomes, the most powerful thing in the world. - Yeah. - So I don't give it shit. What anybody other than the people that I,

that I respect, chair, because you can't, like you will look, you guys know that. - Especially him. - Read the comments. - Yeah, but literally, if you read it,

if you know, by the way, though, yeah, I mean, I'm not that I've been reading the comments about it. - I mean, I don't really know. - I don't really know. - I don't really know.

- I don't really know. - Ooh. - KFC box fees. Chuck, I can't leave you out for one more bite, 'cause I gotta say something.

- Well, hurry up. - Don't even go to eat. - The Colonel didn't do the math.

I mean, it's the only way we can explain this irrational amount of food. - Look at how much food you should. - Shven, nine, eleven. - For eleven dollars, I have check of things.

“- Sip, you should know what? - And fries, and a drink, that's not in hand, but it's just.”

- You can have Pepsi zero sugar, the Colonel's signature lemonade. - We don't have to, we don't have to, we don't have to name all the drinks. - Time to feast at KFC. Prices in participation may vary. Tax, tip, and fees extra.

- So we like mint peaches. - This episode is sponsored by Better Help. - Benny, how has therapy helped you maintain your mental health? - I mean, I'm nothing without my therapist.

He's basically like a father to me, is like another family member,

except without a bias to pin you. And he helps me get through everything I need. Sometimes I come in and I feel like I know the answer sometimes I come in and I'm like a vase, broken into a million pieces and he helps put me together. - Voss, what?

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Sign up and get 10% off at betterhelp.com/fks. That's betterhupp.com/fks. - That we're cooking. - Therapy's important. - My first question that then I have a string is,

is your dad was running for president yet? - Yeah, yeah. - Still talking to you? He's like the busiest man, literally the guy that calls me, every day, like obviously, he'll miss a day, every once in a while.

But he calls me every day and he always has and he did with my brother and my sister.

And now all my kids, he will text or call each one of them every day. - That's sweet. - And it comes from is the lesson to discern in the hardest way possible, is that one day you pick up the phone and they're not there. And so, like on his part, he takes as much part.

- You don't want that, does? - You literally, I promise you, I probably know of at least 100 people. Mainly, kids' stubborn was stubborn, was stuttering. That my dad picks up the phone and calls once a month. - That's amazing.

- Now, you have a sweetness in your sleep, but you're a whole family, because that has a tick. It's such a sweetness in the soul. And you truly are a good, like you just have a warmth. - My dad worked literally 16 hours a day every single day

that he was in the White House. - Yeah, what happens if you guys are on vacation? - Every work by the president, you don't go on vacation. - Are you at, like, every time you're at dinner or something.

Like, at any moment, like, everything's the most important thing in the world.

- Yeah, particularly in the, yeah, in the White House. - When he was Vice President, he had a little bit of a, at least, a sense of being able to show or move yourself a little bit. - Is that White House like, is it even cozy in there? Like, is it fun to go there?

- It's the honor of the, your life. Every time I walked in, I just thought of all of the history, and all of the weight of the legacy of being the son of, one of 46 people who had this great experiment, this incredible experiment that is,

I worry about every day. - Yeah. - And so when you walk in, but it's a prison for, you know,

“I mean, like, it's, like, you have to work there, right?”

- Yeah. - Oh, yeah, it's fully working, and, and, like, you're freedom of movement, and you know, it's not like you can, anyway, it's like what it's in, what it's like in honor is beautiful. And it's really cool, yeah.

- You're saying because of the history, and it's basically like an art exhibit. - Yeah. - You're just like, your behavior is very, yeah, you can't. - You'd be, like, living in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,

with guards alone, you know what I mean? - What's up, uh, what's up with the aliens, you know anything? - Oh, yeah, they're real. - You know what I mean? - No, just for my own personal experience.

- They're not big, right? - Well, real, right? - Cake? - Yeah. - Birds aren't real, but aliens are, definitely.

- You don't know anything for real about aliens too. - You don't know anything for real. - No, by the way, and I've asked. - Yeah, and I've asked. - Do you want your daddy to tell you,

“do you, do you, do you, there's some things he just can't tell you, right?”

- Oh, yeah, he couldn't, but I know my dad, now for 56 here. - Yeah, yeah. - And they could look, they'd do the Larry David. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. (laughing) - Like, do you get, when you, I'd be able to get a--

- Yeah, just your family, do you guys get, when you come in, like, does everyone get told secrets? Or no, just the president? - No, just the president. - No, just the president. - You don't get, of course, they're not like,

"Hey, after, come here." They're like, they're like, "They don't give you the secret." - They're all four. - They're all four. - What's the biggest secret? - They turn off the cameras, I'll tell you. - You gotta see you see us.

- Or was there ever a moment when he became president and he, like, said, like, "Can you believe it, kid?"

- You know, it was a really, really, it's a question, actually.

- Thank you. - That is all good, question. - But this one, particularly. - It was really, oh, yeah. (laughing) - I'm just trying to, yeah, keep the competition stoked here.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It was bittersweet and the biggest reason is my brother wasn't there, you know. And my brother and I were year to day part. And, you know, I don't think my dad would have run for president

“if my brother had lived, because I think that my brother”

would have run for president. And my brother made him promise that he would run and before he died. And it's so, anyway, but it was bittersweet and that's it. But it was like, yeah, but you feel the weight of it,

unless you're, you know, unless you're. - So you're dad, you're dad, you're telling me when he was vice president, he wasn't like, "Oh, one day I want to be president." - Oh, no, he wanted to be, my dad ran for president in 1988.

- Yeah. - Oh, he did, you didn't know? - No, I didn't know, I didn't know, I didn't know. - Wait, wait, so your father ran for president? - Twice before that. - Twice before that. - Yeah, so he dropped out of the race

before the first primary in 1988.

And then in 2008, against, that's when it was the big race was Hillary and Obama. And then the president Obama picked him to be his vice president. - Yeah. - And then, and then, my brother died in 2015,

so he didn't get into the race against Hillary at that time. And then my brother literally made him promise that he would run again. And, yeah, and so, it's 2020. - Isn't Obama so cool?

- I'm like, he is like, beyond, like cool. Like, you know, he really blew me away. Michelle Blumio. - She is a better public speaker and smarter. - Yeah, it's unbelievers, doesn't it?

- No, I really made it.

“- It's unbelievable. - I think the president”

would tell you that, too. I mean, she is an extraordinary speaker. - And an extraordinary person.

- That's not the put on the pressure, but that's the one person

I look at where I'm like, a fat person ran there. - Oh, my God, but I guess she probably just doesn't want the life. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So, it's a life style.

- Yeah. - Who else? - She would be so good. I was gonna say, he'd think of Taylor Swift ran for president. She would become the president. - I think they'd have Taylor Swift put her mind to anything.

She would definitely be the president. - Being president is really hard. - Yeah. - Yeah, I mean, like, really hard. And my dad was a six term United States senator and the longest serving chairman of the Foreign Relations

committee, he knew every single world leader, not just because he met him once, but he met him dozens and dozens of times. - Yeah. - All came up, he was vice president. - So when he got to the White House,

the thing that people like, the way that it ended as compared to how it went, or just like, miles apart, I don't wanna get political. - Yeah, I don't wanna get political. - Oh, my God.

- I guess my thing is beef with, this is the thing with politics, which is, I think it's so unfortunate, it's like, it has become, it's become like a sport or like a religion. Like I feel like we have kind of lost the ability

to move forward just as humanity. We have to like, all just. - Okay, hold hands.

“- So again, what's the upside of what's happening right now?”

- Money. - Money is that we are in money. - Oh, I'm sure. (laughing) - The upside is that in the only time, it might experience that you get, like the truly necessary change,

the motivation, the catalyst for change is through like, severe trauma. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? And we're going through severe trauma

as a country right now. - Yeah. - Because really, I mean it, like your point, like where is the leadership on the Democratic side?

Where is the leadership for the people that used to be normal Republicans? I mean, I take Mitt Romney in like two seconds right now. I would take George Bush, he can, if I can get impacted to run.

But the truth of the matter is, is in your industry, in what you guys do, what AI is about to come with AI, not in six years in the next six months, is going to radically, radically alter everything.

- That's, you know, as a former lawyer, like the profession of law is virtually gone, as a, I mean, it just go down industry to industry. And I don't see that as a inherently bad thing. - Yeah, you know.

- If you have leadership to like lift the sound of it. - Do you think, though, do you think, it's also just a product, like I feel like one of the, like one of the bad things is what social media and like, they say we're like in a loneliness epidemic

and that people like connect with each other on social media and it kind of creates more of communities. Like don't you think that's also fueling so much of where we are today in politics? - I think in 100% it is,

it's not just that, like, in that's not, I think people talk about it, like David Brooks writes about it,

of the loss of a community that people are on their phones

and on their computers rather than going to the bowling alley, kind of thing, and that's all true. But sometimes I feel like writers and people that speak about it, like put to own is on us. - Yeah, my sirs saying, yeah, here's the deal.

- Yeah. - These motherfuckers, these motherfuckers are putting on out the realizing you see. - I'm sorry, I don't think they are, they are, instituting algorithms on social media sites,

whether it's Instagram or TikTok or others, that we know for certain, because of congressional testimony, we're leading to suicide among teenage girls at an exponential rate, and they refuse to take them down because it makes them money.

- So you don't think that one of the biggest drivers, the biggest driver of engagement. - By the time we're there putting it. - Of engagement is, it's conflict.

“- Yeah, it's like, so what do you get on your algorithm?”

Is that we're constantly at each other's roads? That we all disagree that there's no way that we're gonna come together. - Entertainment. - I just, speaking about all this entertainment channels,

- So it's a scandal set. - Yeah, but politics has turned into entertainment. - I want to know something, this is a great segue for me. I need to know your thought.

Tell me about the Epstein files, like right now. - Right now. - We'll get to know some all, 'cause - So now we were, everyone was talking about it. Now no one's talking about it anymore.

- Yeah. - People are still talking about it, right? - No, it's like a ghost town. - Yeah. - I'm not unless I talk about it.

- I will, the only, look, I'm not an expert on the Epstein files. - Okay. - I have no idea, because I already got sued for a billion dollars by Melania.

- Is it a billion? - A billion? - Yeah, well she, yeah, a billion. Like, by the way, I don't have two nickels to rub together, let alone a billion dollars.

But the, the, - I'm sued for a billion dollars. - Yeah, well, she sent me a cease and cease letter and said that they were gonna sue for a billion dollars. - You're sued for whatever amount of money you want.

- You can do whatever you want. - That's America's worth. - Wait, so you're, so you're not,

so you, you have, know what you have never been

in the Epstein files, nothing at all. - No, yeah, well, supposedly somebody said that there was like a news alert, you know, he had like a news alert. - So you, like, yeah, you never, you never did it.

You just did bad stuff, like with like prostitutes. - Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. - Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. - So you're most of the, most of the word dancers, but yeah, by the way, can you imagine,

is this was a woman and they were showing naked pictures of Ivanka in a motel room over and over again. - No, no, no, no, no. - Not being telegreen held up a life-sized cardboard in the middle of a congressional hearing of me in bed,

naked with a woman.

“- But why, just to be like this is the one you're using?”

- Yes, you're using him as a part. - What I'm saying, there's a simplicity to all of it, it's just like, that's it. - That's it. - You have nothing to do with, you're not in our team.

- Think about what it does in the back of your head. - Well, I know, that's true. - It's similar to able to do that. What does it mean about him? - Yeah, yes.

- And so there's this thing in it's called house of cards. - It's why they, it's why they, it's why they don't do this, it's why in certain juries, like if you're gonna be a juror, you can't have seen, they don't let you see what's happening online and stuff because you can get swayed public perception

is reality. - So if they say this stuff about him and you're, let's say you're going to the polls and you say, "Bid and I've heard that, yeah." - Well, that's that guy who just swayed that.

- That's right. - Especially in today's event. - There's like proliferation. - Yeah, so there's a term in espionage and that comes out of propaganda,

it's called elimination is rhetoric. And what elimination is rhetoric was started by the Nazis as like deployed as a propagandic tool and then Putin picked it up. And what they would do, literally there's like a playbook

is the first thing that they would do

is they would pick their target and they would accuse them of pedophilia because there's literally no crime work that you could accuse somebody of the pedophilia. And then they would say they're starting an investigation, okay.

And there wouldn't be any pedophilia. The guy would go like, what are you talking about? - Yeah. - But then when they accused that person of bribery, you know, maybe only 10% of the elector or the population

believed that that person was capable of pedophilia. But now, 60% believe that he could have been a criminal in some other respect.

“So the, remember the first thing that did”

when they said that they found a laptop is Rudy Giuliani and Bernie Carrick walked to the Newcastle County courthouse and stood out in front of the courthouse, held a laptop, which was not there was no laptop that they had.

Holding a laptop and say that there was inappropriate pictures of me with underage children. - Oh, I see, okay, so I see. - And you're supposed to remember that. - Yeah, these are politicians.

- Oh, wait a second. - I have moves to bring, what year was it?

- I don't think, if, where was I? - Oh, yeah, I was big right now. Would you have been like, oh, that's AI. No, it might be like, yeah. - Well, some of the pictures are really good.

- Yeah, yeah. - But would you have been like, we could be drinking anything. - It could be an unhealthy soda. It could be disgusting.

It could be tearing our insides apart or what we could be doing. - It's drinking all week now. - Getting all the same feelings of a soda, but just having a healthy alternative.

- It makes me feel good. - It makes me feel good. - That's right.

“- I think it's good that they're making you feel good.”

- Yeah, I like to taste, but it makes me feel good, too. - I think that's great. So, we're doing a good job.

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- No, he, he, - Trump details, we, so the fires happen. We went to South Africa. We're Melissa's family's from to be able to stay with her family because we couldn't go back to our house.

And we were there for a day and Laura Loomer put out on her ex picture of me and my son and Melissa in Cape Town. And so this is ridiculous. This criminal has, you know, it still has, you know, secret service and they're on vacation and, you know,

we're paying for it in the next day, the president canceled, which is fine.

“Are you the first person ever to get secret service canceled?”

- Oh yeah, I think so. - Doesn't, doesn't every kid have it for, every one of them, they have it for like six months, six months to a year. - Six months, but the president, the president has it forever. - Yeah, the president has it. - So like, I was right.

- So, so, so, so Joe, for am I? - I'm a dad, have it forever forever forever. - Forever, forever. - Yeah. - We don't want it anymore. - Yeah. - I didn't want it anymore.

They're wonderful. The guys that I became really close with the men and women that, like, we're, like, we're going to do something. - You were like, oh no, 'cause they weren't the best. - We have like an old jean secret service guy

who's been there for so long, who's like a part of your family or do they really cycle him in and out? A little bit of both. So, you'll get, like, the lead team leaders that stayed for, like, years, you know,

a couple years, if not more at the time, like, at least for us. And then the other people kind of, kind of cycle through details. - Did it make you think where you, like,

oh, my, was it so stressful for you when your dad was president in the thing where you're like, shit, my family, like, my kids could be target. You know what I mean? - No, it didn't.

- You don't think like that. - No, yeah, I don't. - Yeah, you don't mean, but yeah. - Well, I think about the White House. I just think about, like...

- Tradition. - I'm like, where? I just want to know the, like, where is the, like, home? Like, is there a back-end dress? - Okay.

- But if you're looking at the White House from the front. - Yeah. - Okay. - You know, you have the columns. - Yeah.

- And there's, like, a fountain. - And the front, not the back, not the, not the south lawn is the back of the White House. Then faces the watching to monument. - Yeah.

- And that's the back. - Oh, wow. - Okay. The front is, nobody ever used it really, but the semi-circle, you look at the front.

You walk in, that's called the state floor. And that has, like, the red room, the green room, the east room, the east room, the east room. - The working room. - Yeah, that's where you see, like, all the big events.

Like, when King Charles was just, - Yeah. - or the state dinner. - It's on that floor. - Yeah.

- Beautiful floor. - Which is actually the second floor, okay? Because below it is the entry, it's called the treaty room, and where you enter into the White House from the south lawn, which is the big lawn in the back.

- Yeah. - Where do the helicopter lands and things like that? - Yeah. - See the, yeah. And so, on the third floor, which is second floor,

if you look at it in the front, is the White House residence. - Just present up there? - And family. - Present it in family. And the third.

- And the fourth floor. - No working people. Like, you can, like, go there and feel safe.

“Like, if you want to not be working that day,”

no one's coming for your dad, and they're like, "I've got to talk to you." - Oh, everybody's coming for my dad.

- There's never forget something in the little office

and run down this as I'm going to wait.

Like, a chargic about how that changes your everyday. - So, is it even like, did they love living there, or is it not, what is it even, like, that nice, or is it kind of like not even as good of a home as they could have had to get along with it?

- Like, like, again, like, really is like the honor of it. - Yeah. - The absolute kind of honor of being in that history, is particularly if you like, like, if you love that stuff. - Yeah.

- You know what I mean? - A charger in the oval office or something. - Yeah.

“- It just looks like you have to be at home.”

- You've gotta go through whatever you get it.

- You ever go in there, like, I always wondered it.

You ever go in there and just sat down in the oval office and like, put your feet up. You never did it. - Well, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - There's like, there's like so many things, I went to a restaurant one time. Somebody said, "Oh, Obama came in here."

And I said, "Did they check?" "Every food, everything." And he said, "Honestly, someone could have poisoned "the president." And I said, "How is it like..."

- So, when you're the president, is it any food that is cooked for you is cooked in the presence of a secret service? - Really? - Yeah, from the government, yeah.

- Wow. - If you're the president, you're not just like being like, "Let's run out to a dinner last minute." 'Cause you can't really do that. - There's a 35 car motorcade in helicopters

and Delta Force operators that have to run with them.

“- What if you just want to get a snickers from the gas?”

- Yeah, no. - When you go to the bathroom or if you're the president, do somebody wait outside the door?

- So, there's always someone out, like, on the residents,

they don't come inside the door where there's a little elevator, but they stand at the door there, and then there's a door down the hallway, towards what's called the Queen's bedroom, and they stand there.

And so, there's basically sentinels everywhere. But they don't, when you're on the residents' floor, no, no, the protective duty, unless they're asked to come in to that piece. 'Cause that's completely secure.

- You know what, I don't think I can run for president. - It's kind of scary. So, it was a year into the presidency. Bowie was born. Melissa's mom had just passed away from the exact same thing

my brother did. We were blessed on it. And the same day, six years apart, crazy. And so, it's about six months later, her brother came from South Africa to stay with us,

and it was Halloween.

And Bowie was in one of those at Chubarca costumes.

I mean, the year to have all of them, like Chubarca was literally the most adorable thing you could possibly imagine. - And it's couple, like in their, you know, my age, maybe look a little bit older,

and came up with their phones, screaming, "You criminal you, we face you, pedophile." And like, in my face with Bowie, like, that's here, like, great. And she could serve her stepped in,

and Melissa pushed the lady like this, and I kind of stumbled back with Bowie on my shoulders. And you just, and again, the car, and everybody was dead silent. And we, like, drove home.

We got out of the car. And Melissa's dad was like, "What was that?" You know, he's come from, yeah. - Do you hear him screaming? - I wasn't saying anything like that.

- He's like, "What, what was that?" And I didn't have an answer. In that morning, it's just hanging up. I opened up my phone, and my Apple news feed, and there's a story about a woman who's a teacher

in eighth grade here in Southern California, at one of the schools in Southern California. And she was saying all this crazy shit in her class, to her eighth graders. And so one of the mothers said to the kid,

"Taper, I wanna hear what they said." And they had the tape of this woman, and she spent 45 minutes telling her eighth grade history class that I was a pedophile, and that I had children in cages, in China, and then I was sex trafficking,

“and that's what I was doing for my father,”

because we're a, you know, like, all the stuff. - I'll just say a teacher. - So, but get this stuff. - That's why I just want to-- - Here's the thing.

- Yeah, we're really about teaching. But the thing is, if you believe that, if you believe that, about me, and you saw me in public, wouldn't it almost be incumbent upon you? Wouldn't it almost be like a, like your moral duty duty

to come up to me, and say, if you really thought-- - Yeah, yeah. - So you don't blame them doing that? - And did it as what you're saying? - I was doing that to children.

I still blame 'em. - Yeah. - But the thing is, is that that's what they've done. And I think they've done that to about 15% of the public. - Yeah.

- And by the way, one way or another, they've done that, they have, they have filled them with such righteous rage that it is okay to do anything

- Yeah. - And that's what's happened. - Yeah. - Over media. - Well, yeah, everyone, it's just been,

it's truly been turned into like, like a show. - That's the problem of the world, but speaking of showing entertainment, I am ready to take this show onto the couch. - Thank goodness.

- You wanna go sit right here? - Yeah. - We're not following for any media narratives. - I don't know who anyone is. - We know nothing about anything.

- What, what are your hobbies? - Well, it's more than a hobby. It's my, it's my everything, it's my painting here. - Yeah, let's show this. - You're so, do you trust yourself?

- Yeah, you trust yourself. - Yeah, you trust yourself. - Yeah, you trust yourself. - Yeah, this is literally all I have to wear. This is what I wear.

- Yeah. - You look very cool. - Thank you, man. - He dressed as like you were. - I know.

- That's what I saw. - So, you know, I paint. - Yeah, according to the New York Post, I was like, you know, controlling US policy by, you know, being a painter and selling paintings.

- Yeah. - But what I do with all my paintings

is I do like a, like a proof of concept, like first.

So this isn't like the thing, but it just was small. So I thought, I mean, this is your concept. - Yeah, so this one's for you. - Can I sway policy with this?

- That's kind of cool. - Because I'm gonna make it really good. - So the next thing you'll see and they'll be like really big and famous. - Oh, okay.

So this is what I was like. - I love this. - I love this. - Yeah. - Thank you.

- And that's for you. - Do you love this? - This isn't getting anything. - Oh, sorry. - We share, we are one.

- Yeah, we're gonna.

“- Both of you should just be hung in this home.”

I love, like, what saved me was my art. I painted my whole life. I mean, I have over, like, 100 finished paintings in my studio. - Okay, we need art.

- Yeah. - So I, like, put, put the first time you know what I'm, I'm putting them up. - I'm gonna put, I'm 100biting.com. - I love it.

- I love it. - We're gonna get these frames. - We're gonna get these frames. - We're gonna get these. - Well, I sold, like, maybe, like, I had a gallery

for a little bit, but then the gallery owner got subpoenaed by Congress and literally. It's the craziest, craziest thing ever before. - It is bizarre.

- The answer is, is the beauty of what I watch you guys do.

- Yeah. - Is the, the gift of being able to completely, not lose yourself, but find yourself in purpose and create a purpose. - Doesn't it feel great?

- It's incredible. Like, all I have to do is just like, - Yeah. - Yeah. - And that's it.

So, like, the question of, like, do you get, like, never, like, another, like the steak is like a genius. - And I'm paying for it. - And I'm paying for it. - That's like, yeah.

- It's like heaven. - It's like heaven. It's like, you go to it. It's like, I don't know, do you cook at all? - A little bit, yeah.

- So, when you cook, to me, - I get that book. - I cook a lot. - Yeah. - I get the same feeling.

- Oh, Dave wants to show you his book. - Well, I know we didn't want to talk politics, but I, I, I, I, I, I paint two sometimes. I can only paint abstractly. - Yeah.

- But I too, kind of like, you were saying, like, because when I, when I creatively do anything, I think about everything. I really analyze, scrutinize. - And I just taste these.

- The only place I feel like I just let my inhibitions go is when I paint, but I can't do anything but abstract art. Now, this is a political piece. I don't know if you're,

- If you're happy. - I'm ready for this. (laughing) - Obviously with everything going on today. - Okay, so, see, for real, I love that.

- Thank you. - Seriously, thank you. - Why did it's political? - Yeah, but you can't, you don't see it. Wait, you don't see the policies?

- I don't see the policies. - I don't know the right answer. - Don't tell them. - Oh, because it says USA. Is that why it's political?

“- I think it says USA because it's political.”

It's not political because it says USA. - Yeah, look, I, I love it. I, we, I do love it. - I do love it. - I do love it.

- I forget what I call it. I'm like American War. - And what's coolest part is, is that you take that and you put it in like, have, Melissa is like, the greatest at this.

You put it in like a super cool frame and it like, it's like a stunning piece of art. - Oh, by the way, it's like the whole thing. Like just, and I know that you're like, if I look on your face, you're half joking with me,

but I'm not joking at all. It's like the coolest piece of that art. - Yeah. - Like, it is like the greatest expression of like, the, you know, release of pain.

- Yeah. - Like whatever it is. - Or anything. - Yeah.

- Yeah, yeah, I always, I, for saying.

- I paint every day. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I paint every day and I paint every day. - What do you write? - Thank you.

- Thank you, thank you. - Wait, what are you writing? - What do you write? - I, well, I, you write another book. - Okay.

- But I also do poetry, like, for some of my art. I do that. I've written a lot of essays.

“I'm gonna do, I think I'm what I'm gonna do.”

- Okay, you guys, tell me. - Wrap album. - You're really, you know, I'm modeling. - You're like great looking. - Do I do?

- I, what, like, you know, older older men. - Like, you're, like, you're like the most stylish. - What are you saying I should do only things? - No. - Oh, my God.

- Do you see Shannon, unless you make it up all my old stuff on the old championships. - But I don't think I own it. - No, he would be the worst post. - Well, you know, it's what coolest content that you got did.

One of the coolest things that I've ever seen anybody do was when you and Ed Sheeran in one minute,

- Hey, how about this? - I look at this place. - I look at this place. - I look at this place. - Yeah, I look at this place.

- Sorry. - Sorry. - When the four of you did this song. - I was witnessing it as you were. I was just happy.

I couldn't, I literally cried.

“- But I literally was living it through your eyes”

because you were like, "This is amazing." I was watching, I was going, "Oh my God, that's so clear." - You know what I was like about it is, I truly having sat on this couch with Ed Sheeran, and I know that you're talented,

but I've never seen Benny do what he has done.

So I just, it was like a weird moment to be like, "Oh, I like forgot where I was." - My parents have never seen what I would do. They still don't know what I'd do. - They should have watched a clip of Ed Sheeran.

- No, they know that, but that's not even me doing. You know what I, like, full of us. But it was cool. - I think that's what you do. I mean, I didn't really like the song.

- It was cool, it was, it was interesting. But actually, my mom saw one time. She came to the studio when I was right. I was alone. And the artist, I was writing the lyrics and melody,

and it was my voice. And she came in and she said, "What?" And I said, "No, I don't know whenever he hears this." And it was like, 'cause usually I'm with the artist when I present my ideas of writing.

And then like, but back then, sometimes I would write the thing before they got there. And I'd have to show them, and my mom heard it. And she was like, "You're so bad." I guess, no, she was like,

"No wonder you're giving them to everyone else." Not, but I do, but I do have to tell you one thing. - But then every, like, I've been for you. - I've been for you. - Yeah.

- Like musical, like, I mean, I mean, I mean, you're at least, I was about to say, our generation when I'm not used to it. - I was in a relationship. - I was like, Ruben, I mean, at least to me.

- Yeah, it's like, yes, it's not more so. - Honestly, it's a little better. - I, I probably, probably, I, for me it was just the same thing as you, it was all, I was just getting stuff out. Like, it was just, I just love the process of making things.

- It's so cool. - It's my favorite thing in the world. And there's a feeling you get, I don't know. I'm not a painter, so I don't know. But whenever I feel like, I'm about to get it,

or I just got it, and every musician has as I know, Dave does, for me, I get like this feeling like my chest or my stomach, where it's like, this is like, it's like, it's like, hold, like you feel like you're about to get hit by a car, 'cause like you just figured out

“the moment, that's what I get, and some of my friends have,”

but you have your own version of that feeling, you're more relief. - Yeah, mine is, I don't get that feeling. - You're struggling, you're like, it's a, it's a, it's a struggle.

- It's a struggle. - Yeah, have you ever made a music? - No, I haven't, I haven't, I don't have the, I mean, I love music, I, I am constantly,

I mean, I always have music on.

- You have a freestyling, by the way, and my daughters love, like, love you. - Dude, dad, Dave, he's amazing, he's one of my favorite. You gotta, you go back and watch Dave, go back and watch Dave, go back, that episode with Brad Pitt at the end,

is the greatest episode on TV ever. - Wow, wow. - What type of artist is she, what I was supposed to watch a music video that is, she says the greatest music video, what is it?

- What's it called? - Probably pillow talk. - You didn't even save that money, man. - No fight, it's a freaky Friday. - Freaky Friday, yeah.

- And he made the music to that. - Oh, did he? - Yeah, he helped him. - He helped, he helped him. - Freaky Friday, that's what she said.

- Yeah, shout out, mustard. - Dude, your, your, your daughter, is she, what type of artist is she? She's a painter also. - Oh, she's a painter, she just needs to gather.

- Yeah, yeah, we did, we're doing, like that's what I would love to do. - Like, film me in Mayce, he's just painted together. - Yeah, yeah.

“- You should, I feel like people would like it.”

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - People love you online, whenever you do anything on mine, probably hate you too. - Now you're, you're humanity. - You're humanity.

- Yeah, you're just wanting cool. - So I love, I love your, I love your story. - Like, do you love humanity? - Yeah, you're walking, you're telling it. Like, as somebody who's not afraid to be myself,

like, and I don't care what anyone else says. - Yeah, yeah. - I know, I know, it's like, you know when I would care, is it like my own friend wrote something about me?

You know, if some person I don't know that knows nothing about my character, who I am as a person, I couldn't give too shit, but if like my friend was like, I really hate how you do that, I probably cry. - Yeah, you know.

- Yeah, no, I'm saying, I hate how you say what you do. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I have a buddy, his name is Franny,

and he always says, you know, like,

and I always think about this in terms of humanity, but you want to know about politics, if you want to go change the world, go home and love your family. - Yeah.

- And that's like a mother Teresa, and the thing is, is like, like, God almighty, I wish everybody would kind of like take that lesson. - I think people are evil. - I think we're just so much better.

- And we get about the politics of the public or the Democrat who gives his shit. It's just like, like, we aren't the image that is being portrayed back to us through these, like what we think are mirrors, but they're not.

They're algorithms. We're not, we're not that. - Yeah. - And I really mean it. What you guys do collectively, and I mean this,

is like, you bring beauty into the world, like through your creativity, and through, like, just like, I watch this show, and I've served the show before you guys saw the show, before you guys call me.

Because when I paint, I always like have like

something on the back of the show. - Yeah, I watched the Ed Sheeran one, it's the first one that I watched, yeah. Thank you. I actually, the first one I watched was the first one you did just the three of you. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Ed Sheeran one is a perfect example, because for me, the reason why we do this show, for me, for me, is A, I got to be with my best friends,

and like, get to, these are like, actually, my best friends one at a time when the camera shuts off. Maybe a little less now because we're with each other, so I don't understand. - Yeah. - But, there's so much shit, and there's so much stuff on, like, pushing, like, these, like, weird, like, masculine narratives, and, yeah.

“I think, when you come to us, you can, we'll be funny, we're going to be serious sometimes occasionally.”

You're going to get to see, like, Ed Sheeran, make a song from scratch, you're going to get to see, like, Lizzo freestyle off the top of her head, like, I think it's really cool. And you're going to get to hear, you talk about your fucking life. And it's going to be cool. - But, you know, that's the thing, it's like, there's got to be space for us to be able to talk about, you know, politics.

- Yeah. - Yeah.

- There's this really incredible, that's a documentary about a guy that lost a bird in Venice.

But the whole thing that I took from it is it literally, everybody's going through something. - Yeah. - Everybody. Everybody's had their own tragedy, everybody has their own trauma, everybody has their own addict and their family, everybody has had, like, everybody.

- Yeah. - So regardless of who's involved, it's true. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And that's kind of cool what this is.

- Yeah, I hope. I mean, yeah, it's a scary world out there. I feel like we have, it's like our responsibility as people to kind of get ourselves in line. - And you guys don't realize the level of reach, yeah, I guess you do, I hope you do. And I don't mean this.

And I really sincerely mean this, is how powerful it is when someone with your platform is talks about something that they care about, really is, you know, the amount of influence that you have.

“- Do you think we're doing good things so far with our influence?”

- Well, I just think you're doing a great thing, but the nature of this show. - Yeah. - And I think you're doing amazing things, but I'm just making incredible music and making me, you know, incredible music and making me laugh. - But we should do more things.

- Yeah. - That's right. - My biggest contribution in years two is just like, making people feel good. - I think the biggest contribution to you both made it to your wives. But that's it.

- Oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm just lucky to be. I'm just lucky to be a big game. - Jesus.

- Jesus. - Jesus. - Jesus. I'm just running, trying to stay a long thing about that. - The thing about politics, like, I think I and I evenly, and maybe even a part of me still

does, but especially as a kid in the college student, I was just like, I would just think of politics is something other than an evaluation of the facts at hand and how they are impacting and moving forward humanity, so to like, that's really kind of to me what politics is. There's facts at hand, we have to do the best things for people, and we act accordingly

based on the laws that are in place what have you, and I feel like to just ignore it. Is it irresponsible? And that's all I have to say.

“- Yeah, but David, I think that there's so many people, it's not that you don't care.”

- Yeah. - You don't care for the bullshit of politics, right? - Yeah. - Yeah. - And we got to get through the bullshit to the things that you care about, because

it stays a care about what we're going to lose. - Yeah. - And it is real. Like, you know, like, just what you said, like I don't know if I want to talk about this, it's scared.

- Yeah. - Yeah.

- We never think of a time in America where you would be no matter what that you

didn't go out and yell at on a street corner. - Yeah. - That weren't. - Anything. - It's true.

The country from South Africa, and I have to admit, I get nervous because I don't put it past anyone that is politically opposed to my father. Nothing has to do with me, but just wants to make a point, that what if they put drugs on me?

- Would anyone ever believe me?

By the way, 90% of the people think that I was smoking crack when I was in the White House. I mean, I've been clean the silver for seven years. - Yeah. - Like, in a very, very viable way. - Yeah.

- Yeah. - But, like, but ever in America, ever felt that way. - No. - So you can say, I don't give a shit about politics, but politics is coming for you. Whether you like it or not.

- Yeah. - And that's where activism piece of it. - Yeah.

“- Like, just like small ways, I think, just matter.”

I don't know. - I really do think kids are really, and I mean kids being like 18, 24 are really moving in a way where they're thinking for themselves in a way that's like, very interesting. And I think could be really cool for like, for where we're headed. - Yeah, the problem is that now we just lost our, the comments right of being able to

decipher what's unquestionably true or not. And like, add that wrinkle with the AI and the online shit to, you know, everyone's own individual problems. And then there's just no comment around because you can't, I feel like there's just facts - So who's our real enemy?

- Our own ego and greed. So beyond, beyond the, the, the kind of the metaphysical kind of, uh, answer to it. - These guys, there's literally like six of them, the control, like, literally the, the oligarchs from Elon Musk to do, uh, Sam Altman to Peter Teele and all of these guys owned the data.

And we get nothing from it. And they use all of that data to feed us bullshit. - So basically what you're saying has happened is let's just, it's got not a control. - Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

- What do we do? What's the first step in chain? And what's the, I mean, here's what we can.

- Door in the gate. (laughing) - Okay, I got a real step, media. You have a free style before? - No. - You want to try it?

- Oh my god. (bell ringing) - Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. - Let's go, baby. - Yep, let's predict. That's, you know, we got soccer.

- Oh, yeah. - We got a f***. - Nope. - No, I don't think he's going to win. - We know what he's doing.

- We're all in the good place. - Oh, I don't think he's going to win.

“- We got a lot of stuff, but we got regions like Spain, France, Brazil, England. - No. Correct me if I'm wrong. - Oh, eh? Is this a pro soccer championship that's about to happen?”

- I mean, it's more than that. It's global phenomenon or global. - What's the other word you would use? - You can predict the outcome of the pro soccer championship's games all the way to the end of the tournament with Fandle predicts. - Better than a match and get bonus bets for every go scored in that match. More goals means more bonus bets for you and your Fandle predicts at visit fandle.com to get started now.

- You think about Spain, France, Brazil? - I'm thinking about Senegal. - I'm going with Brazil. - So this is exactly like painting. This is not exactly like painting.

This is really like him just go. - You don't see me like that. - Okay, I want to see you. - I want to see you. - So you want to come do it with me?

- So right now. - So right now, you have auto-tune on. So anything you sing will sound cool. - Yeah, I doubt that. - No, no, no, no, no, no.

- I haven't like, it's like, it's like, you know, but you can also rap. - Well, that's hard. - You can sing here. - We did some, we did some.

- Why do you guys do it first?

- I did it. - You better do it first.

“- There's no, I didn't have time to look.”

- Because they're going to do it so good and then it's going to make it. - No, no, no, no, no. - No, no. - I have no idea what I'm going to say. - Look, I'm not doing it.

- I'm not doing it. - I'm not doing it. - We get out the drugs. I've got to do it very well. - Well, tell me.

- We made something a little presidential. - A little political. - A little political. - Oh, my God. - So, yeah, we got some.

- You want to show me first? - We should do it. - Yeah, we should, we should do it. - We should, we should do it. I'm a thief.

- Yeah. - Would you ever run? - 100%. - Would you have fun? - Never.

- Would you suggest that we need to do is a country that I've afforded as a group. - In this streets, get in the streets. - Get in the streets, got again the streets. (laughing)

- Okay. - Oh, I have to say. - Oh, now you're going to do it right now. - No, three, two. - I'm not going to get cheery.

- Yeah, just like it. - This is exactly like a cheery. Oh, wait, you just get in the streets. (laughing) - I like that.

- I like that. - We got a cheery. - We got a cheery. - We got a cheery. - Down with the man.

- Yeah, out with the man. - Okay, I like, we just made a cheery. - We got a cheery. - I'm gonna back the mic to my man. - You know what it is?

It comes down to greet, greet, greet. - Don't look at me. - Don't look at me. - Money and politics. What a bullshit fucking shit.

- But if you need a friend, just call a Biden. - You need a friend, call a Biden Joe. - Biden, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. - That was it, we did it. - We're in the scary mouth.

- Yeah, yeah. - Were you scared as that cheery? - No, not, I don't even think that we were in the same building. - I just had a full circle of thought. - Yeah.

- That you've never seen as dad and anything else besides the suit

and you'd love to see him in sweatpants.

“- What's your dad ever called over and sweats to see her?”

- No, but he never come here. - That was not what I said. - This is what I was going to say. - I didn't know. - I didn't think about the full circularity of this afternoon.

- Yeah. - It seems as though, because I'm like, this is, it's not really, you're not a political, you're not in politics, but for whatever reason,

to us, you represent our first forehand power.

- Yes, it felt, it felt, it felt serious. - I didn't remember the first show you guys did, and you were like, no, no, it felt serious. - I was scared. - So I'm, you know, what I'm trying to understand is like, how did we do?

- I should move forward as a, you know, politically, as a society, which really just means evaluating the facts at hand

about humanity and the fairest, most appropriate way.

“And I think whatever, we're not going to have that answer,”

but I think we might have that answer, because even when you were describing your own life and how it went down a dark path, and then immediately, the one thing that totally changed it instantly was love.

- Yes. - Right? - Here it is. - And I think if we just imagine a story with love, some semblance of, not necessarily romantic, but just the love of each other,

“I think you'd be surprised at how fast life can change.”

- If you wanted to change the world, go home and love your family and your neighbors, and then you can move to the end of that tip. - And I kiss you and your cheek. - Yeah, we can, we can, we can, we can.

- Wait, I love my heart. - Should we start interviewing like political people? - All right, so if you don't know how to talk. - I should have thought about that. (upbeat music)