Giggling about butt pads, lawyers, and lisps

- Is that a good room?

- Here it is, fix the Wi-Fi.

- Man, that's not true. We can't be managed. (laughing) - I'm in the day just got away from me. - Hello, my glittering gigglers.

- Hello, Hannah. - Can I just say you have to be careful when you give me compliments? - Mm-hmm.

“- Because you told me that I inspired Margot Robbie”

with her and her accessories. I took that the heart woke up this morning, I said, we're gonna put as many accessories in her as we can. And then I started regretting it. - You keep me young.

You truly keep me young because my gen Z assistant just recently cut a bob and she truly cut a bob to wear more clips. And she does that hair, so all the time now. - In my heart of heart, I am Gen Z,

but with the millennial upbringing. - And this is how I also know you're a narcissist. (laughing)

Because we've been together for 10 minutes,

and I haven't even said one thing about my feather. - 'Cause I was waiting. - I was depressed. - Of course. - They can go a thing about my feather.

- No, this is the thing. I love this main character, energy feather. So she is just like a really comfortable t-shirt. - A stard oversized, she's thick. - Oh, I feel that you'd love that.

- I know that is high quality, I thought it was stowed. - Tomato tomato. - Tomato tomato. My mom called me and she's like, "You guys got to learn how to pronounce words

"cause it's starting to get to me." And I said, "Well, that was the educational system "that you brought me up with." - I love this feather. - Amazon, I actually put it in a newsletter.

- You added it? - Yeah, yeah.

- Oh, you're a full designer.

- No, I was a project runway. - It came up on my Amazon, and I was like, "What is that fun little?" - Okay, so I'm gonna put my hair clips in the newsletter and you put your feather clip,

and the girls are gonna be, it's kinda like that Jennifer Aniston movie where they put, what is it called? - Usually I can get there, usually I can. Jennifer Aniston being me.

She works as a waitress, and she puts, when she does good things, they give her more clips. - Oh, it's all the space, Flare. - Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay, anyway, oh, did you watch it?

- Oh, I watched it. - Okay, tell me everything. - You made it seem like a nice, like I was excited to sit down to watch in a good documentary, and it was.

- I didn't wanna give things away for the people. - Not enough people are talking about truly how unhinged Tyra kind of is. She seems a little bit crazy in this documentary. - Also, I have three weeks left in my invisible line,

and I actually think it gave me a list. (laughs) So I digress her like two seconds. - Or is it the Botox that's given you a list?

“- I think it's a combination of the things.”

- 'Cause the one thing you have to do for your job is speak, like it's nothing. - Well, it's a challenge that I could make my job a little bit harder for myself. - So Tyra had this like evil grin the whole time?

- Yeah. - Where she'd be like? - She came off, oh my God, I don't mean to like bash Tyra bangs right now, but she came off like a little bit in off it.

Not a little bit. She came off like pretty inauthentic, especially when they're recounting these events, and then they have the actual girls being like, no, he was groping me.

- Yeah. - And there's no if answer, but I was uncomfortable and it was weird and no one did anything. - You could tell she didn't know that the other people were gonna speak out the way they did.

- It almost seemed like it was posed to her of like this is a documentary and we're gonna scratch the surface, give us, you can give us some PR answers and the other people will talk.

You don't have to get as much in the mud. - I can't believe she agreed to it, but I can't believe she agreed to it. - But I also think she was trying to be like, I wanna defend myself in a way,

but then she didn't really try. She was kind of just like, I don't want to address things. - Well, I just think like anything that came up that was like, this is a great, like okay, the girl Shandy, where they were talking about how

she got black out drunk and she cheated on her boyfriend and they filmed. - Just not what happened. - And they filmed to the whole thing and then they filmed the next morning.

She acted like in the beginning, like she didn't even remember who she was and it's like, okay, if you had come out and been like, of that time period for TV, I was pressured into making it more salacious

and so, and I regret it. Like I shouldn't have added X, Y, and Z, because they were editing it. - And be like, yeah, I got obsessed with making the show as salacious as possible.

I wanted to make more money. I wanted to show to be bigger.

“I wanted to be to, I think also anyone in reality”

TV production, she said she wasn't, she's the executive producer. - Right. - Anyone in reality, be production. - So I met some other sources.

- There's more size. - They're all in my life, in reality TV. - Reality TV production. And some people are good people, they fall into it

What we're doing to these people.

- Yeah. - And then they get out of it.

“I'm telling you, there's a reality TV reckoning happening.”

- I can say like, I've had some producers on reality TV where I'm like, you have made my experience. That much better, you've really helped me tell my story. You've really helped me open up. And then there are some people that I'm like,

you actually are the devil. - And this is, it's crazy. - They call it producing, but it's actually manipulating. - Yeah. - We'll say, hey, I'm gonna produce her, watch this.

And then you take a normal person, having normal emotions, twist it for them to think they're in some different setting. And seeing Shandy have to do these phone calls on camera. Like, and you could tell to this day.

- It fucked her up. - Full every single one of them. Even though this was like 10 to almost 20 years ago, none of them are over any situation that they went through. Like, you can just tell the way they're talking about it

that it has stuck with them and they think about it every single day. - You know what's sad? If the show wasn't successful, it actually wouldn't have affected them that much

because no one would've seen it. So that's the problem with when things go viral is that everything is that much more intense. - The craziest thing for me is like, I feel like I grew up watching Tyra Banks,

“like you watch her on Victoria's Secret shoes”

and that movie life size and the show comes out. Like, I just had this vision of Tyra Banks, my whole life of like, not only is she so stunning and gorgeous, but she's smart. She's a business, do you hear my list?

(laughing) - How annoying is it for you? Like, you're like, I can't, I can't go on. Or just lean into it. - And it is not this Tyra Banks.

(laughing) - You could just be friends, you'd be like, the genus like, "Cla, oh my God." That was iconic. Keep that in grace.

Keep that in the sky. I feel like I've done that before hooking up with the guy. - No, I totally take out like things I stuff my bro with. But boy, I'm like, don't worry about this. And not discounting the things that Tyra Banks has done

for black women, women like curvy women in modeling, like, open so many doors totally. But I saw a clip and it was like, her talking about her modeling career, her talking about any like business venture,

the show, whatever. And she said, "I really want my legacy to be ice cream." And I said, "You know what, we're done here." - Like, you're done here, I think. - I think you know that when you said,

there can be multiple truths at once. - Which I say that? - No. (laughing) - That's like, yes, back to my original point.

- Has done so many amazing things.

For women, for diversity, of size, of race, of... - Totally. - But also... - And the theory of this show was good intended. Like, this was not the amount of beautiful women

who look differently than the popular model at the time. - Yeah. - RealityV is messy 'cause they don't treat you as humans. - Yeah. - Your characters that they monetize,

except afterwards, they don't go audition for new characters. - You are the character. - Right. - And you're stuck with you. - Yeah.

- And I also have to say, tired didn't act alone. - Tyra had. - Totally. - Massive executives. - Executives of fucking, yeah.

- Making tons of money off of like, chandy. - Right. And if the network says something, then it's like, okay, well, this is what we have to do. And I feel like she found herself in a rock

in a hard place.

“That's why I feel like doing this documentary now”

if she had sat there and was like so much got fucked up

that I would have never seen coming.

And now years later, looking back, like, I feel really bad. If she had just said that one time, I think I would have had a totally different experience watching her.

- Like, even at the end, when they didn't get what they wanted from her and it cut to Danielle being like, shut up. - Like, yeah. - It definitely, that was what they wanted you to get from it.

- I also think what pissed me off the most, actually there was a lot of things. But one of the things that was frustrating is 'cause it was like 2,000s. - Yeah.

- They didn't have Instagram. So nowadays with real ITV, even if something kind of bad happens to you, you still have your own platform that you can build. - Yeah.

- These girls didn't have that. She just had to go back to Walgreens and she could not have a voice. She couldn't express herself. She couldn't show other sides.

- You're almost like in a jail that you created. - Or that they created for you. - I could tell, like, even like love Island, when they, these people leave, they're set for like five years.

- Yeah. - If they like build. - 10 years. - 10 years. - But these girls couldn't build a following on their own. That was it.

Like, I could see so many of these girls going extremely viral, like people who, but then also, it could have even been worse. Like, Shandy could have been just so harassed online. - Right.

- That, like. - And so how do you brought up love as blind? Are you watching? - No. - So the new season came out.

- Is it good? - It's such a good way to gauge what dating is like in the current moment.

Like, they all want, they truly want husband. - But juices, if they want to be on reality V, they want a husband. - Wow, they're for the people on the back.

- They want a husband and they also, the only reason why I say that is because like, a lot of it, they talk a lot this season about like being sexually attracted to the person

which totally, like, I could never do love as blind.

Like, I feel like that is like a solid 50/50.

“Like you have to be able to have sex with that person.”

But the guys want to be, they don't want to do the initiating. Like one of the arguments was like, okay, but you could like initiate to. And I am so of like the mindset of like,

if you think it should be 50/50, you want a husband. - Like you don't want to date me. - Yeah, like you want her to chase you. They also, a lot of the men like they bring it up more that they're not attracted to the women.

And it's, I'm like, do you own a mirror? Like have you ever looked in it one time? No, just like one time. Take a glance, why you think you deserve someone, you're already with someone that's way hotter than you.

What you think you deserve someone even hotter? Please, check the mirror. - It is crazy to think what men think they-- - Well, it's delusion, and all the girls say that like, wow, he's, here's a one, all in none.

They're great, but I have with love is blind. I don't know these people's names. And if I see them one time on the screen and you don't have their name in the lower third,

I'm never remembering it.

Love is blind.

“Someone in editing, keep the names up for longer.”

This is one season we're never seeing these people again. I'm not memorizing their names. Like I have no idea what couple is which and what their names are. And I'm just like the blonde one, the blonde one.

- I just want them to be uglier. People missing teeth. - Okay, that's like a totally different show. - No, but if that's love is blind. Like I want you to fall in love with someone

and be like, but everyone is the same. - I actually think they do a really good job of like, I don't think there's someone that I'm like, oh my God, she's like 10 times better looking than all the other girls.

Like I really do feel like all the girls are pretty. But is it more interesting if they throw in like a model with a horrible personality and then like the funniest, most charming girl who isn't traditionally good-looking?

- I mean, yeah, everything would make that with like make way better to be. - But let me actually tell everybody. - Yeah, no, you're no better than a man. Like, you're like, what if we got a legey model?

Okay, and we put her with an ogre. Ratings would skyrocket and no they would. But that's why I'm like, it's so crazy that the men are like, I don't know if I'm attracted to you 'cause I'm like, you don't know if you're attracted

to her, like, are you okay? - Oh, man, would have sex with warm bread pudding if it was in their vicinity. - Hannah, you would be so mad. There's this literal, she's an angel.

I don't know her name as though, and I wish I could. - I don't watch these shows 'cause I get too mad. - She's an angel, she's gorgeous, she's stunning. She's a doctor. A medical MD doctor went to college multiple years.

This man is pushing, pushing five, six. - Truly. - And he looks at this woman and he goes, I'm really used to being with someone that goes to Pilates every single day.

First of all, know you're not. (laughing) So that's a lie. Second of all, then if you like it, she'll much go. - She's busy saving lives.

She's in a time to do Pilates three times a day. - She's literally, what was it called during COVID

when like, she's essential.

- Oh, she's an essential worker. - She's essential. - You're not. - And if you love Pilates so much, you should go every day.

But also men, I'm also sick of the men going to Pilates. That's like a whole other gripe. Like, well, that's illegal. - It's not so bad. - They just wanna Pilates.

- I've just seen, I've been seeing it a lot on my timeline. - Oh my God. - And I'm getting, I'm starting to get really annoyed. - No, 'cause if there's a man in your place

'cause you're gonna get robbed. - Well, it's also like, okay, you don't let us go to the gym and where sports bras because you're freaks. - And now you think you're gonna show up - So about our place to work.

- To work, gorgeous, ballet, studio. - Yeah.

“- And then there was like, could it put another red on?”

- Shut the fuck up, shut up, shut up. - Anyway, we got it. - But the problem with these middle, good-looking men, like, in the middle, we all know those are the ones that like really fuck with you.

Like any time I've dated down, but when you date down. - What is your definition of dating up? - I'm not, I don't like dating down. I like to feel like I'm obsessed with them. - Yeah.

- I wanna feel lucky to be with them. - Yeah, you have to admire them. - Yes, I think that's the word. - Yes, and I have dated guys who I admire their jawline, but then like the second they open their mouth,

I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. - My grandma said something to me, this is like years, I mean,

I don't even know if I need to know this.

But she said something to me that has like truly stuck with me through my 20s and my 30s. And that is, if you have a son

“and your son walked through the door right now”

and he was an exact replica of who you're currently dating. Are you proud of that person? - And I'm like, I'm delusional. We're like, I don't rate myself in any way. I just know that I'm that girl.

So I'm not like, I don't look in the mirror. I don't know how I look. I just know that I want the best for myself. - Yes. - That is right for me.

- We have high standards. - I have very high expectations. - Very high expectations and I have, I think it's because of my parents. - Yeah.

- And I know yours as well. - Very high expectations. - Zero tolerance for disrespect. - Zero tolerance. - Zero tolerance for not believing in me.

- Zero tolerance for sassiness. - Zero total parenting around here.

Never seen it, never heard of it.

Only heard about it in books and movies. Never experienced it. - And I remember dating down. And when I say down, it's like, you know in your heart of hearts,

like, you're a loser. - Yeah, he's a loser. - I feel like they know that they don't deserve you. And because of their insecurities, they fuck with you. - Yes.

- And that's the most upsetting thing and that's literally like made my mind crazy. - Yeah.

“- Though honestly, that's a whole plot of tell me lies”

and the do the right thing. - That's what it's triggering for me. - I said, that girl should not be talking to him. - Well, they just ended the series. They just put the season finale out, which I watched it.

Some people were like mad about it because they felt like the main character is Stephen got away with everything. Whatever, there's like a lot of just-- - That's life, man, getting away with stuff, that's life.

- But one of the craziest things is the director, I think she's the director. He came out and was like, I have been shocked over the past few years about how many people are so mad at Lucy, saying that she's just as bad as Stephen

and hating her, almost in the sense of like, well, because she's weak, we hate her. But like, discounting the fact that she wasn't like this, like he literally manipulated her, he made her into this.

- Your response to abuse should not be judged. - Yeah. - People respond to abuse in many different ways. Some people freak out, some people just become a clam. - Yeah.

- And I think, never see food reference again.

So you know, my dad called me last year

“and he was, I gotta talk to you about something”

'cause I'm a little bit pissed off. And my dad rarely will call me after like 8 p.m. 'cause I'm like, he's asleep. I get a facemet 9/30 and I'm like, oh, I'm a stuff like really like annoyed him with something.

And he goes, how dare you sit on your podcast and talk bad about clams. - I love you, it took my side. - He goes, I love clams, you love clams. You actually think you're not, you don't love clams.

- We go to Italy every single year. I eat clams for dinner and lunch and you name and say anything. - I love him, we say the most horrible shit about man in your dad calls. Can we just go to the clam?

The clam? - He does. - Well, one time in Italy, we saw Michael Cours, like as breakfast and he's never forgot it. So when you talk about Michael Cours on the pod,

he's like, my friend. - I saw Hannah some, I heard that she say hi, did you say games? - Maybe we could all have clams. (laughing)

- I love the Gareth's listening high gear bear. - I mean, speaking of calling people last night, I lives in a bit boring. - Never. - Something comes up with, and I want to, I want to,

- He's dressed yourself. - I'm all hyped up. - Now I know it was around 10, 30. And I said, pages out for the day. - She's done.

- She's done, she's fucked out. - She's fucked out. But I, in one of those moments of friendship, I said, I don't care. - If you're calling me post 945,

you might get a yoga instructor. - Okay. - You might get a healthcare instructor. - I answered hyped up. I've been, I've been jacked up.

- Yeah. - Page answers, with a mask on. - Yeah, a classic sleep in face mask. - Get in my college and where I can. - I give her all of these crazy arguments.

She goes, I'm gonna need you to relax. (laughing) - I'm about a joint and a half deep. Hannah starts hitting me with life plaguing questions. Like, like, like I'm not talking next week, next month,

I'm talking things that will affect us in five to three years. - We have like a worse project going on and I'm like, I had an epiphany. I think we scratched it. I think we start from the ground up.

And it's, it's because of these seven different points. And she has to me, she goes, "I'm gonna be fine. "I need you to do this." - I'm gonna need you to take a lead.

- But mind you, if I'd called you at like 11 o'clock, right when you're on your walking pad. And you're jacked up with coffee. You would have been like, "I'm actually, "let me get on the phone with my lawyer right now

"and I'll deal with it." - I love more than getting on the phone with my lawyer.

there's one thing I love more than getting on the phone with my lawyer

is telling people I'm gonna get on the phone with my lawyer. - Well, see you in small claims court is real. - Absolutely. - 100% - Absolutely. - So I'm hosting this Agle Ward's red carpet for Netflix.

I have a frozen chin. A lisp. Now I don't tell Netflix that I have a frozen chin and a lisp. - And my fear is I'm gonna do it. And people are gonna make, oh my gosh,

she went so overboard with the Botox. She loves plastic surgery. When I was the one, that was like, I'm waiting to get Botox and then I get a little bit botched and now all of the sudden.

So I'm nervous that that's gonna be, whatever, I have two weeks though until. - You're gonna be totally fine. - Also, I've been looking at your face this whole time, I have been distracted by your,

but I don't really listen to you. - Yeah, but you love me. - I love you. (laughs)

- There's lots of love there.

“- There's the worst thing people have to say about you”

is like, you over to the Botox. That's a relatable queen. - Oh, thank you so much for saying that. - It's honestly more like a bull for you to stop being so perfect all the time, I would feel like.

- Let me tell you something too. I really need your help and I selfishly asked you to come over to my apartment today because I actually want you to help me with my cards for the SAGLE Ward.

- I was gonna say, I was supposed to do it with you. - Hannah's supposed to do this Hogwarts with me and I get a phone call from Hannah saying, I actually decided to absolutely not do that. - No, the day before I'm shooting my special.

- Okay, it was impossible. - It was impossible. And emotionally, I couldn't make it happen. - I couldn't handle it. - The amount of bait of blockers actually don't accept.

(laughs) - But redefine, then you've dealt with me tired standing on the wrong side before. - No, especially that's like a lot that you need like a full week to recover after.

- So you have to study. - So I have to study. - 'Cause that is, let me just say, it's live.

“Which is different than a lot of people can interview”

and just take the funniest moments and post it, which is ideal. - Yeah. - But live is like you're gonna be working, babe. - Well, I have like normal facts about every single celebrity.

Like, how many times have you been nominated? Well, movie, it's far like blah blah blah all the boring facts. But now I'm going in and adding like one funny question or like, look, they hired me for personality.

Like they knew if they were a cat, I don't know. - 'Cause it is live. So like, I guess you can ask anything. - I'm getting scared. - I'm getting scared.

(laughs) - You just do full Andy Cohen at a reunion with everyone coming in. - No, you go loose. - Who have even sighed on you?

- Mike, you have a thin stuff. (laughs) - No, I'm obsessed. Also the end of the day, your dress is really good. - No, my dress is really good.

- Which I think it's really good. - All that matters. - True, it's true. - It's true, they all that matters. - But it's gonna be fun, I can't wait to watch it. Wait, one other viral thing that I saw recently

and you know, we don't like praising the men on this. But sometimes I'm like, oh, I have to take like someone's side. I don't know why I didn't see this during the Super Bowl or anything.

“But did you see that clip of Tom Brady and Logan Paul?”

They were like, at the Super Bowl, - Ooh, that doesn't cross on my algorithm, thank God. - Okay, the only reason it came across mine was it crossed, it was a girl doing like a duet to it, like a rubble.

- Okay, yeah. - Essentially, there's like some game or something, like that Tom Brady's doing, I think, like, I don't know if you love a game. - I love a game.

- Or if it's like football, but it's like, I have no idea what it's like. - I agree with it. - Yeah, like Mark and Paul are more. - But Logan Paul is playing in it.

And so they were talking about like competing against each other or on the same team or like whatever. And I guess there's other professional sports people like playing and said game.

- What do you mean, no one asked me and continue?

- So basically, the debate, not even the debate,

Tom Brady says to Logan Paul, like it's cute that you think you're an athlete, but you're not a professional athlete, like you're about to be with major professional athletes. And Logan Paul starts talking about high school.

- Same, I would do the same. - And then he says how he's in the WWE. - Yes. - And Tom Brady kind of like chuckle, I actually felt bad for Tom Brady in this moment

'cause I'm like, if I was sitting there and some fucking kid was across the table from me and I'm the proven best in my sport, in my position for the past. - But 10 years.

- Tom Brady put himself in that position. Don't go in the park guys with Logan Paul. That's what you got. - And I was like, as someone who like admittedly did like Logan and Jake Paul's reality show.

- Who knows what I was going through at that time? - Well, let's be honest, you liked the girls in it. - I liked Nina, I liked watching Nina. - Nina and the other one who just want a gold medal. - I love an Olympian.

- Sorry. - Jordan, I'm in wait. - Yes, sorry. - I do just say, every now and then I'll be talking to someone and I'll bring up something that happened

to me with Tennis with College and they're like, you're literally a man.

- Like give you, say, track and tape to me. - I'm like, why? - I don't think we brought this up. I don't know how I didn't watch this earlier.

“I think it's 'cause I was waiting to watch it”

and then it left my desk and it came our back across my desk. - Did you watch the wag of the Christie story on Hulu? - What the heck is a wag of the? - Okay, so, ag of the Christie is a novel.

- Is a novel of like a mis-- - Yeah. - Investigator? - Yeah. - It's about soccer wags. - Okay. - In documentary?

- Yes, in England, which you love England. It's basically Molly May, but if she was with soccer players, Paige-- - No, that's kind of-- - We're gonna watch on TV.

- Paige, this is the most incredible thing.

- How many episodes? And I'm diving in. - Yeah, it's at least three. - Okay. - Oh, my god. So it starts off, of course I don't remember any of the names,

but one of the women is with one of the biggest football players in England. She met him in high school, really cute, and immediately goes from just being a poor English girl to getting papped on the street to be like, "What's her story?

Why is this guy with her?" They fell in love in high school, so she immediately is a star. - Yeah. - And she's gorgeous and people like her, but she's just a regular person.

And she likes living this regular life, and she has a private Instagram, where she has like 300 of her friends, who she actually knows. - Oh, I love that.

- And she posts cute things about the family. - Do you know what, my favorite things about my brother's girlfriend is that she doesn't have Instagram? She literally doesn't care about it. - And I'm like, you're so cool.

We only speak because we send each other TikToks. I'm like, that's my only form of community. - You did it, my brother, which is why. - There's something to be said about it. - The men and my family are just iconic.

My dad just learned how to post in stories, which is a problem, but-- - My brother hasn't posted it in like 12 years. - And that's why we trust them. - And that's my brother was out of your posting for attention.

I'd be like, did I not beat you enough for that? (laughing) - Actually, I feel like I get that text once a week. From my brother. Did I not beat you enough as a child?

I'm like, okay, you know what? Oh, I did, actually. That's why I'm so mean to men.

“That's why I have no respect for any man”

because I was beaten my whole life by my older brother. Logan Paul thinks he's good at the WWE.

Never seen Gary disarveled.

(laughing) - I was seeing Gary disarveled. - You got a couple of my headlocked. - After a two-liter of Pepsi, unsappable. You wanna wrestle?

Anyway, traumatizing. So she posts on her private story. Now, things start getting leaked to the sun. - This sun is like the Daily Mail. - It's like the TMZ of England.

- The TMZ of England. And at first, it's kind of innocent stuff, like, oh, oh no, there was a drama though. Her husband gets blackout drunk. He's found driving in a car with a random girl.

He's like, I don't know how I gunned the car. Why is this girl in my car? How does she need it? - She need it. - She jumped in my car.

I didn't know she was trying to... - Yeah. - Jack, my car, I don't know what his excuse was, but she was going through it. 'Cause she loves this man and she's like,

he clearly is drinking problems and she's on me when he's drunk. - Yeah. - At one point, she posts that she's with him during this, like, on and off time.

And it goes to the sun, that they're together, the S-U-N. And she's like, that's crazy 'cause I just posted it on my story. And she's looking through, like, who could have leaked this?

This continues happening. And she's starting to go crazy and get really paranoid

“'cause she's like, is this one of my close friends?”

- Wait, are you gonna tell us who it is 'cause I'd like to put in my formal guests? Now, it's one of her friends that knows him from high school and maybe they've hooked up or dated.

Please proceed. - That is a great, it could have been. So, - Wait, what's that? - It's actually one of her not close friends. She was at like a big soccer thing

and she met another wag who loves being famous, loves being on covers, loves having articles written about her. Now, for some reason, this girl when the sun writes about her, it's all positive. It's like, look at her on vacation in Italy

and she's like, I've never seen someone

get so much positive footage from a tabloid before. So, she met this girl and the girl immediately was like, what's your Instagram, I can't find you and she's like, oh this is my private Instagram. So, she's another wag so she thinks like,

that girl would, there's like a code. - Is it code? - It's like a brogone of what to say, what, yeah. - Yeah, so she's like, I think it's this girl. So, she finds a way to block everyone from our story.

I mean, that's where the only wag of the Christie, this girl is a genius, but also, it's interesting.

She's not going to a lawyer, she's not going to the police.

“She's just like, I'm gonna figure this out of my own,”

which is very you coded. - I was just gonna say the power of a woman. - The power of a woman. - If I don't need to turn into a woman. - I'm not calling a 65-year-old man

to like, put this on his desk and forget about it. So, she posts something very controversial. - Okay.

- She's always wanted to have a daughter.

She has like four sons. So, she posts that she's going to Mexico to try to like, confirm the gender of her child. Like, something that like, something crazy, like crazy. Like, we're adopting an alien from Mars.

- Yeah, she posts it. And she sees the other wag, see it. She's the only one that's up. Nothing happens. And then, she waits.

And then, something else gets leaked. And she's like, fuck this, I'm blocking the girl. And the girl response is like, hey, why'd you block me? Like, the girl's clearly following stuff.

Then, a couple months later, the story leaks about the girl. And the gender baby. So, she's basically, this is gender baby. - So, she just goes straight to Twitter. And it's like, I cannot believe this wag has been doing this to me.

And my, goes on a whole thing. It blows up. Guess what the other wag does? She says, it's not me. I'm suing your ass.

So, they get in this insane legal battle. And the other wag, they're like, okay, everyone has to submit their phones and stuff. The other wag goes, oh, my phone got dropped in a lake. And then her agent, too, was like, oh, my bad.

- But then I clapped. - Broke. They, I don't know what was going on. But they did, then they submitted like, files with things redacted.

- Okay. - And, shall I say what happened? - Yeah. - Okay, what happened? - You let us all, to Twitter.

And then you're like, and find out in the next episode. No, tell us what happened.

- So, at first, it seemed like they weren't gonna be able

to say who did it. But it was found between the agent and the other wag that they were both colluding to sending stuff. So, it was proven that she was guilty. It was the craziest war.

“But I think that women still says, like, it wasn't me.”

- Here's my thing with that. I feel like I've been in the position, you too. So many times when I'm like, I could go to war with this person and truly prove them wrong in the court of public opinion and I can bring up

all these receipts and I could show everyone just how fucking crazy you are. But, then I will have to live with anytime someone Googles your nameless name. I'm going to come up and I don't want anything to do with you.

I don't want to be put together with you in a news article. I don't want our names ever being in the same sentence. - So, you have to be really mad. Like, you have to really-- - You are reddit.

- Yeah, she read it. - She read it. - She said, my life, I thought I was gonna-- - You think you're getting justice? - She thought she's getting justice.

And she said, the next three years of my life were the worst years of my life, millions of dollars spent in legal fees, in the-- - And just negative attention. - And energy even thinking about this.

“- So, you're live at life is so exposed.”

- Yeah. Every single text message, it's very scary. So, as to Sicilian to love revenge, there are so many times where you're miserable fuck, and I'm not playing in the mud with pigs.

- Well, you know how, like, I love blocking people, and you're, like, let it off.

- I've never, I've never, no, I've never blocked a person.

- Yeah, you're, like, let it off. - I've never blocked people on my phone, 'cause I don't like people having access to you. - You're very much, like, let's-- - That was so media.

- That was so media. - So, so media, where I'm like, okay, blocked, gotta go. - I forgot what I was. - I just like to point that out. You don't block me, but I do.

- I know black people, 'cause, like, you gotta see the home movie. You can't stop in the beginning of the movie, when things are hard. - I know, but I just think that it is a better revenge, being, like, you think you're trying to,

you think you're taking me down, but my silence of, like, never speaking your name, not even knowing that you exist, is probably eating you up more than, like, me acknowledging you, and saying that you are, in fact, crazy.

- Yeah, I block men, I block bad friends on my phone. 'Cause I don't want you to have access to me. I don't want you to try to manipulate me. I don't want you to try to, um, yeah, like, fuck up boundaries that I've put,

but in terms of me as a person and my social media and what I'm up to, um, it drives me. I think it's Mark. - Yeah, think, I appreciate that. - Yeah, I know.

- You know when you give me compliments that you create a monster, so please stop. I'm also obsessed with random depobabies. I didn't know we're random depobabies. - Like, like, Lily Collins.

- People don't talk about her, like, she's a depobabie. - What her dad has filled with. - Her dad's Phil Collins.

- He's, like, one of the greatest musicians of our time. - No, I knew that.

“- Like, well, he's iconic 'cause he, like,”

looks like an accountant, and then he's, like, playing every instrument and, like, has the voice of an angel. Do you remember the Tarzan soundtrack? - Yeah. - So I'm talking about the top of my head, but if someone brought it. - It's an, okay.

- Okay. - Okay. - No, it's so cute. - Nope, it's so cute. - Like, totally ringing about. You got it. - No, it's the utopia, shy. - No. - Oh.

- He wrote it down. - Yeah. - Any other good ones? - Tarzan was like my sexual awakening. - No, I mean, Neville, chill, dren. - Oh, I think you want to be a chief.

- That's so funny. - Phil Collins, be chief. - That's so funny because I remember when I was younger,

seeing Tarzan, my first instinct was,

you know, why would she want to be in the jungle? She's wearing a dress. - She's wearing, he did, that she had, like, pearls, and, like, little gloves. I've been, she was forced to be in the mood.

- Yes. - I hate it. I was pissed off. I actually wouldn't finish watching it. I, like, told my mom, I was like, this is stupid, she's dressed, she's ready.

Like, she has to let now, like, forage. She's not even speaking to her. Like, I had strong opinions on Tarzan, and I was young guys, like, get it off the screen mom. - That's like getting mad at Jasmine

for going with the guy with no job instead of Jafar, who is loaded. - Wow. (laughing) - And my favorite's you, you have the money.

“You could show him the world, what are we talking about?”

You don't have to get on a carpet.

You can get in a Lamborghini. - Oh, so, yeah, a carpet. - A carpet that's when you sat on one, well, it was the last time we vacuumed that carpet. - We rarely talk about, like, any good we do, you know.

- No. - Anything nice, we do for, like, - Let's bring. - I do try and do a lot with, like, my old high school, they're still around.

I'm like, if, I'm like, I can't let another college out. - I'm like, oh, you haven't known. - It's all I had. I could go back to my middle school, which is thriving, but I feel like they don't need my help.

- Yeah. - So anyway, I try and, like, sponsor things when I can, I try, like, paper things, whatever. But one of the things that I do is they do, like, this, like, alumni connection,

and you can, like, someone can, like, ask you because you've, like, already graduated to be there, whatever. So I find myself, couldn't even be Jonsie. What is she?

If you're in college right now. - I think Jonsie. - Is she still Jonsie? - Yeah. - I think.

- So I find myself chatting with a Jonsie girl quite often. And it's so funny because it's not that long ago that we were freshmen in college. - So it really isn't, though. - How long is it?

10 years? - Like, 15 years. - Oh, actually, okay, wow. - And then my head, I was like, but if I'm 26.

- Wait, that was so funny yesterday was talking to us about our age and I was like, we're 26. - Yeah, but everyone thinks we're 26. - Literally, I just was like, wait, but I'm 26, so how could that be?

“- I think people think we're, like, 29 to 31.”

- Whatever. - It doesn't feel that long ago, even though it was, but when I talked to her, I do immediately get back into the mindset of like, oh my god, I don't know if I don't have this figured out. And then I'm telling her, like, this is what like,

the beginning of college is for to like figure out all of these things. You're not behind, you did not, you didn't even, you couldn't even mess anything up yet if you tried. And so like, I find her me like talking to her about,

all of that stuff. And then obviously we talk about like, lasering our hair off of this, but she texted me recently because we had talked about like her being in a relationship and like all of this stuff.

And she texted me recently and she was like, I fucked around and I listened to Giggly Squad a little bit too much and I broke up with my boyfriend. - Good. - And I just, I feel like now we need to go even younger.

- Do you know why I say good? Because no girl is ever broken up with a guy in her grudded it. - Which is an amazing point because I would--

- It never accidentally made a mistake

and broke up with a guy. - You have one girl friend that you've ever had a conversation with where she said he's really the one that got away. - Never one. - Never also no girl randomly just wakes up

and is like I'm gonna break up with the guy. She has went through pros and cons. She's talked to 12 to 17 different people about it. - It's not good chance. - Including professionals including her therapist.

- I actually think there is like a young crew of girls who listen to Giggly Squad and they're powerful. I'm like if you can recognize this now that he's holding you back, he doesn't want you to do X, Y, and Z because it's making him feel inadequate

because of whatever, like if you can realize that now, you've saved so much time in your 20s. - I also hate to say it 'cause I love sex in the city. - Yeah. - But it did give me this feeling of like,

you could be single in your 30s and it's kind of scary.

How do we find this man? How do we find this man?

But maybe they're listening to girls like us in our 30s.

What's like, yeah, I'm married, but like we don't talk about that. (laughing) - We had a fight literally, it was like,

“you don't need to find him, but the truth is,”

is like, we're not like, you're not like a death finding a man. - Well, one, I feel like because you're married. And you don't think about it. - And also 'cause I'm married,

and you guys understand that it doesn't, like, it doesn't plan to your day-to-day life. - Where is that man? - Who is he? - No one's respecting me more 'cause I'm married.

Every respect I've ever done in this industry is 'cause of myself. - If anything, what is my respect? - One of my biggest fears of getting married is that I will lose respect.

- It's horrible for the brand. - Oh, I'm like, wait, people aren't gonna take me seriously.

Because I take, you're so hard to explain.

- You reflect on me. - I think you feel like you're ruining everything about my previous life. - And sexicity was literally them at brunch. Sometimes just being like,

this guy hurt me, this guy, I don't know what to do with this guy. I don't know what to do with this guy. - No, that's like, I would say right now, at this time, one of my biggest fears is that if I get married

and I have a baby, everyone will look at me differently, treat me differently, my, my job and career will change. - Seeing girls pre-being a mom as like, that's their life and then after them, when the mom starts, it's like, well now you're a mom,

“but I think we're the generation that's changing that.”

- It will start with me. - We'll start with you. - But I will say when I froze my eggs, I did feel like, oh, I'm fine. Also, there's so many women in the arts,

women in STEM who you don't realize has a full-fledged family. She doesn't talk about it. - Right. - I do have to say, I don't like when influencers make

their boyfriends, their whole personality, because then when it doesn't work out, - Yeah. - It's like, you're less than, 'cause he was making you who you were.

- Yeah, and also just like, if you have a boyfriend that wants to be on your Instagram story, like, he wants a husband. - Can I say how to take whenever I see influencers like post with their boyfriend and he looks miserable?

- Yeah. - Green flag. - I kind of think so too, and I've like seen girls' comments where it's like, he definitely hates you, and I'm like, I couldn't even bring myself to comment.

That on someone's like, that's crazy. - 'Cause I know men in my life who are the greatest men do not want to be on camera. If a camera gets in front of them, they're immediately like frees,

don't know what to do, don't know what to say, and don't like it. If a man is telling me, he wants to be in my Instagram. - Really? - Yeah. - Red, fucking flag.

- Yeah, I know obviously there's so many reasons

why I never talk about like dating a man

or like being with a man, like even like Valentine's Day. People were like, obviously you're in a man's bedroom because it has no artwork. (laughing) The bed's on me, like, what's going on here?

Is that a jail cell? There's so many different reasons on why. One, I feel like, because I was like, just had such public relationships and like the court of public opinion is like not healthy.

But two is, because I'm like, what the hell does he have to do with my personality? - 100%, you know, like, I'm worse than it. - I posted heavy mountains day with my mom and people were like messaging me like,

what's going on with you and does? I'm like, you mean the man's ain't next to me right now? - Right. - There's two types of men. There's men that love compliments and love praise

and love like looking cool and like, yeah, I'll post this picture because like, I want a DM that says I look cool or people to think that I look cool whatever. And then there's men that don't post because they only care if like you think it's cool.

- Also, they know they're cool. They don't know each other get like what might be your point. But my point was the thing is you're really good at setting up a point. - Here's the difference between us.

- I'm in. - Whatever you're about to say, I do this. - Let me rewind, let me go back. There's two types of men. There's men that care about what other women think

and then there's men that care about only what the person they're with think. - But I wouldn't even just say men. There's two types of women. - Women that care about what every man thinks of them.

- Yeah. - And women who just care about the man they love thinks of them. - There's all the power in that. - There's all the three types.

- I mean, there's all the other types of men that like, - Well, there's what other men think. - Well, says is like this and I would put doesn't this category. He doesn't play when it comes to you.

“Like there is like, because here's the thing,”

if you will sit a picture of him and someone commented something rude, you're setting him up to have an angry day because he can't compartmentalize. If it was about him, he could compartmentalize

and be like, yeah, that person. Who cares, I don't know that person. But when it comes to you, he doesn't mess around. But then there's men where it's like, you would talk shit about me.

If someone gave you the opportunity

say what you really feel. - The way your man speaks about you is how he feels about you and what he puts into the world. - And I will say, I don't think I've ever been with someone, I actually just had to dumb it down.

I don't think I've ever been with someone who genuinely liked. (laughs) genuinely liked my full personality. Like, like certain parts and certain characteristics.

But I don't think I've ever been with someone that like 360 likes my personality.

“- If you feel like you have to be anything other”

than yourself, that's the red flag, which goes back to the beginning of Love as blind, which is, which is, if you feel like you, it's not about being with someone who's really hot or being with someone who's really cool.

It's about being with someone who makes you feel like you

and that's what my parents always said to me.

When my parents would see me with whatever man I was with at the time, they wouldn't look at him, they would look at me. - Yeah. - And they would be like, I don't like how you wax it around you.

- Yes, like you're not eating, you're like, you're not eating. - I mean, you look amazing. No, it would always be, I feel like you're waiting for him to,

or like he seems to control, he's controlling, like it was looking at me. And when they saw me being able to be childlike and free and myself, that's when they said that's a man for you. It was never them looking at the man.

- Girl, I also think this is the first time my life I've ever dated someone Italian. - Like, why do you think you don't want Italian before?

“- Sounds like they're running off Italians in New York.”

- I feel like I never really knew that once you started, you'd be stuck. (laughs) - I feel like, well, it's hard explaining an Italian family to like a, waspy white guy

from Connecticut, like it's, there is such a disconnect. Do you know like the word, like, Ahchida? - Yeah, you got Ahchida. - Yeah, you're worked up. - Yeah, like this morning.

(laughs) - It's how I love my life. - Like this morning, I just like, I have like, Ahchida, like I can't, like, and it's, it's hard burn, but it's also, you're just like,

- Also, you explaining what Kota to someone? - And like, maybe, like, okay, origin of the word. Look, I don't know origin of the word, but you give it to me, like, I know. - I hate to say it and be an annoying New Yorker,

but like, my man is New York. Like, I've dated guys from other places, and it's not the ther evil, it's that they don't feel like home. - And yeah, you cannot have your cortisol levels confused and weird it out, it makes you bloated.

When you're with someone who feels like family, for better or worse, sometimes their demons are your family's demons, which makes things, at least you know how to deal with it. - Yeah.

- The devil you know, finding someone that is right for you and not just right on a paper, technicality or Instagram. - Yeah. - Don't get caught up in this, like,

oh, I like, he looks good in my Instagram stories. - Right.

- No, I like, I'll never post a man ever, I don't even,

if I have a son, I don't even think I'll post him. You know, because we never know, we can never be too cautious. I'm like, am I really your mom? I don't know. - No, it is just like, we are dating as weird.

It's weird dating also in your 30s, because I don't think when you're younger, you fantasize about it. Like, you fantasize about dating in your 20s, like, oh my God, what's it gonna be like,

I'm gonna go on all these dates. And you rarely think about it in your 30s, because you're like, oh well, I'll be married by then. And then when you're not, you're like, well, what is this?

What is dating in your 30s? - Yeah, do you even call it a boyfriend? - You're basically his boss.

“Like, what are my girlfriends texted me the other day?”

Like, okay, this is a perfect example. In my 20s, if someone didn't send an Uber for me to go out on a date, I would think nothing of it. We live in New York City, yeah, of course. I'm gonna meet you there.

There's no, like, let me pick you up in New York City because whatever. Now if I'm in my 30s, if a guy doesn't offer to send me an Uber to like dinner, I'm not going. - How much will she get there?

- And if he does, and it's like an Uber X, am I going? - I'm moving. - This is the first date you're supposed to be putting all your cards out on the table for me to look at. - And some people might have listened to that

and said, "Pinch, you're being high maintenance, you're being over the top." She knows what she wants. And why waste six months with a guy when you know immediately, he's not thinking the right way.

- If you have high expectations, high expectations is what you'll get. And if you have low expectations, low expectations is what you'll get. - But I also think in your 20s,

it's so much easier to lie to yourself, like you don't know. - Oh, so you're poor in your 20s. - You're poor and you don't know. - Right.

- You're literally like, okay, he did that, but that could mean this, we don't know.

It's, I always say it's like taking your first shot of Arca.

- When you're like, someone's like, do you want to chase her

and you're like, why?

“Like, nothing, you don't know what could go wrong.”

- And now when you see the killer, you're like, I'm gonna gag. - This goes back to like, love is blind,

'cause I'm like watching grown men

like explain why they won't give the woman that they picked to marry compliments. And I'm like, this is like a really,

“this is like a really painful conversation.”

And one guy was like trying to say,

"Oh, because you asked me to do it now,

like I can and now I'm putting up a wall." If you're with a man and he says the phrase, "I'm putting up a wall." - Again, he wants a husband. Like, that's for girls.

Putting up a wall is for girls

“because if you guys, you can't put up walls.”

Like, you have no walls. - I also did buy a skimns of butt pad just 'cause I wanna say. - Are you gonna put it in the dress? - I don't know, we're gonna say.

- Wait, I'm obsessed with you. - I just wanted to try it out. I mean, I have the nipple bra. I'm like, what if I just built it? - Imagine me with a butt pad.

- You can go to my apartment and go try it out. (laughs) - I have it. - Okay, we gotta go try some butt pads. We love you, Googlers.

Thank you for listening. And talk to you later, have a great weekend. Bye. (upbeat music)