Giggling about couples counseling, clams, and condoms

- Sop, kids lose?

- Period, fix your Wi-Fi.

- Manifest, that should be 30 minutes. (laughing) - I mean, the day just got away from me. - I feel like we're doing a debate. - Yeah, that's, yeah.

My argument is, you guys, what is up? My granite stone gigglers, I was in bathroom, I got inspired by her for this. - And sitting at this table, I don't know why, I feel like Jane Fonda, girl's like,

women look at each other, when they're speaking, they face each other. - What do you think about those intimacy rules for couples? Were they like before you go to sleep,

“you should stare at each other for 30 minutes”

and don't say anything. - One time, I dated-- - Yeah, it's called marriage. - One time I dated a guy and he made me go to, what's it called?

- What's it called? (laughing)

- School, I don't know why I was driving

and thinking of couples counseling. Stop my lip, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't. Anyway, and one of her exercises one time and anything, it was the moment that I was like, this guy is not for me. She was like, turn all the lights off

and for 30 minutes, lay in bed and stare at each other. And I was just like, no, can I have a hot take? - Yeah. - If you're under 27, yeah. You should not be going to couples therapy.

Get a new man. - I actually have an even hotter take and to out do you. (laughing) But I think going to couples counseling or therapy,

even like before your married is like a little bit of a red flag. I mean, and people are like, no, no, no, no. It's really good right before you get married. Like, to be able to talk to you. But I am almost like, oh, everyone has a different idea of love.

So people love to them is fighting for it and being like, this clearly isn't a fit, but I love this person and I'm going to try to make it work out. - Yeah, like I need a little bit of jealousy and like a little bit of like,

yeah, no, it's good to have a little bit of fighting. - Yeah, you don't want it to feel perfect. That's so boring. - So boring. - You love to slam a door.

- I have to slam at least once every fiscal quarter. (laughing) I had to get really pissed once every three months where I'm like, I'll leave. (laughing)

- You have to threaten.

“- Yeah, you know, you have to, you have to, you have to just keep them scared.”

I have to make a quick update. I apologize. I said that Lewis Hamilton was tall. I don't know what I can talk about when I speak about men. I just assume--

- I don't know what came over you.

- And one thing about me, you can never assume a man is anything.

- Yeah. - And it turns out he's five nine on Google, which means he's five seven. So he's not tall. - Right.

- But neither is Kim. - But we're praying for good things for him. - Kim is like five two. - Yes, he's tiny. - Five two and a half on a good day.

- Speaking of men, we didn't get to talk about it last week because we recorded a little bit early, but the Olympian who cheated on his girlfriend and told the world. - Sorry, screenshot it.

- To actually get the data correct. - Well, I screenshot it because the quotes are so insane. He's in Norwegian Olympian, he won bronze. He said, I told her a week ago and it's been, and it's been the worst week of my life.

I had a gold medal in life and there's probably a lot of people out there who look at me differently now, but I only have eyes for her. Sports has taken a bit of a back seat

these past couple of days. Yeah, I wish I could share this with her. I'm not ready to give up. I hope that committing social suicide like this might show her how much I love her,

which that's just like insane. I accept the consequences of what I've done. I regret it with all my heart. Maybe I'm dumb as a rock. I'm a member of Mensa, but I still do stupid stuff.

- This is a wedding. It's getting arrogant, Jane. He was shocked. His tongue was shuffling. And my throat is like, oh, what is she saying?

- Tom is in a car accident. - Okay, so the mess up part about this is like this girl to not be a part of this narrative. Like, here's my thing, I'd be like, I got a senator, the whole world.

Like, he was like trying to work it out,

“but I think in like figure out where they stand”

and he just word vomited to the world. But you know what? This is a classic like, you feel guilty. Don't make it everyone's problem. - If I were her, I would stay gone.

I mean, that is so embarrassing. - It's embarrassing. - It's also very clear that he has zero of recognition to his own emotions. Who gets in front of live TV and just says,

"Actually, can I get something off my chest?" Really quick? - I guess in his head he thought it was like a rom-com moment, like a guy with a radio outside of someone's house, like a lady.

- bronze? - Well, that's what I was gonna say.

“- No one's coming back when you got a bronze baby.”

The third place? That's not even second.

- The third place, that's barely, you would have got,

like you barely made it. - You barely, they were like in your teeth. - Yeah, so these winter Olympians, can I just say? - No, it's been. - I've been to watch the violence anymore.

- Like these people are getting guillotined. Like I'm watching, I'm obsessed with it. - And I will turn on any sport. - And you watch the Lindsey Vaughn, like, when you really craft.

- No, I'll like puke, I'm a empath. - You know, it's funny. It's like, I was with a group of people and I was like, we could watch it right now on TV and everyone's like, I have to look away.

And I was like, what? - We have to watch it. - They were too nervous for you. And then she, like, lost a leg. So I, these, I love these winter sports

'cause they do these insane jumps. When I tell you they're building things with, like, I wouldn't even stand on these things. - Might as well slide all the way down and then jump up.

- And these girls are so badass.

Like in another life, I wish I was like a cool ski girl. Like, yeah, jump around. But when they fall, they have to bring the camera away 'cause they don't know if the person's dead or not. - No, like they're jumping like crazy

and they land on their fucking head and they have to get the camera away 'cause someone's just lying there's like not moving

“and you have to, there's always like five minutes”

of like, are they alive or not? The freaking girl on the halfpipe thing landed on the side of the halfpipe and like, almost guillotine to her body and half. And I'm just trying to watch it and they sport.

I'm just trying to get through the day. And I feel like the summer Olympics is not like this at all. They're just like, jogging, right? And these ones, at least they get to jump in a pool every inch in a while, they're doing lap,

they're doing something called the butterfly, it's very beautiful. - Yeah, they're getting a tan while they do it. - And these people too, it's such niche sports that they can't do it for a living. So these guys and women have like full time jobs.

Like they're like, she's a teacher by day and at night, she does the double luge. Have you seen that we need to do a hand-in-fage try the double luge? You just have, you put someone on a luge and then someone just sits on them,

who was like, you know what makes this better? - Yeah, that's not top of it. - If I can feel a little weight of another human. - That's actually your nightmare. - That's my net.

- The luge. (laughs) - And the physical part. - Being in that close of quarters and your bodies have to be on the same.

- And the outfits don't. - No, they don't. - Well, they don't give. (laughs) - That one sparkle?

- No, well, they know, I meant like they're so tight. - Oh yeah, there's no room for error. - Yeah, there's no, like, comfy nest. - You can't blow it without-- - There's no forgiveness.

- Anyway, how was your fashion week? - I would say. - Hi, how long are you? - How long are you? - My fashion week was good.

I actually didn't do much this year because, well, I didn't want to. (laughs) I was like, you know what? I have to go.

- But my tribe's in my stuff was so fun and I went to the Christian Seriano show. But other than that, I really was like, I don't--

“- You posted a cool outfit with, like, a zebra skirt today?”

- Yeah, I just-- - I really liked that. - I found it to, like, different stuff. - Oh, okay, that was just, um-- - That was just like the amount of shoes today.

- See, I loved that outfit. - Thank you so much. - I also love an outfit that you have coming out shortly, everyone's stay. - What?

- You have an outfit that you're gonna wear, so that's really good. - Oh yeah, I do. - So cute. - Okay, so I sent Hannah and Alfred picture

of something for, like, in a couple of weeks. And Hannah texted me back and she was like, "Look, I don't know if you wanna hear this, "but I love it." - Yeah, she was like, "I don't know what that means,

"but take it as you will." - I think it's gorgeous. - The fact that I would wear the shit out of it, like, I don't know if that's gonna turn you off from it. But I just, I'm very excited.

I think it makes you look gorgeous. - Oh yeah. - I saw Michael. - Cory. - Michael.

- Yes, I like that. - He's amazing. I didn't get to see him, but that was also my fault. I didn't go to after party because I have social anxiety. But they put me next to Tephy and Brittany Roskeh.

- See how you're gonna see.

- Incredible seat, but for some reason,

I was like, where I was sitting, whenever one was walking in, I was like a first-peep person people were seeing. So like, I became like the host. (laughing) I became like the leader.

So, and they were like, really were actually able to, they're like, Mary J. Bladch comes walking and sees me and I go, "Hi, Mary!" And then I'm like, "Am I supposed to get a reward?" Like, I became the, like, I also think I have a welcoming face,

like, I was a new dude. - New dude? - No, you have been approachable, welcoming, face, and/or else. - So why? - So why?

- I was like, guys, I can't talk right now. - I'm welcoming people. (laughing) - So, that was fun, but it was a very cool group of people. - Yeah.

- It looked at, just, just really bad as women. - And how do you feel about your outfit in your hand, make up, like, well, people like when nuts over the trench coat,

I was like, I hate when people just say, like, I look good, love it, love when you guys. - Wouldn't, wouldn't, didn't I say that back in the day? - I don't know, but like, what a crazy difference between you and I.

I was like, look, you wanna be seen for more of your art. Basically, the gigglers are so funny on my page, and they still find a way to like make it funny, but they are complimenting me. And I feel like they love the trench.

- I can't respond to them because I'm like, God forbid anyone ever screenshots this, but like they're so funny. - And then they entertain each other, and they'll be like, wait guys, these comments are really good,

and then it keeps flowing. Like, I got crazy momentum of the funny comments on the trench coat one, and the different ways they find to like compliment me, like, what do I do to deserve this?

Like, I always feel like I'm not worthy,

but the gigglers love the trench. - I love a trench, 'cause I feel, (laughs) - First of all, yes, inches.

“- That's why we're sitting at this table today,”

to really emphasize. Well, there's only one trench, it really makes you, you feel investigative. - No, you feel professional. - You also feel like you're high, you see grits.

- Yeah, you feel like I have, clearly, I have a schedule. - Yes, you're in the mood. - You're in the mood. - Yeah, you're in the mood.

- Yeah, you know, it's like, I'm in a trench and I'm in the trench. - In case it rains, I am prepared. Like, you just, I just felt really prepared. I also think my fashion would be better if I wore things that made me uncomfortable.

- Okay, and I happen to find that trenches are so fucking comfortable. - Trench also gives like, lost baby or dog coming up to you. Like, if you're lost, you're going up to the person in a trench. - And I'm pulling out like anything you need.

- Accountant Diego. - Yeah, you have like a pen in and no pen you're ready. - Yeah, I actually also, when I was outside,

there's always like fashion photographers.

And they kind of came out of nowhere, 'cause sometimes they don't come and then sometimes they do a little bit of a buzz.

“- This was crazy, and I think 'cause I'm late all the time.”

Like they all were bored, and then they all started attacking me. I accidentally faced time, lowest. So I'm holding my face time, all these cameras. I hear lowest, what's happening, ladies? James, like, how are you?

- Wait, and then lowest. - But you face time, like, lowest is eye pad or something? - Or like, low time is wrong. - Oh, oh, because I remember I was like, - I was so concerned today.

(laughing) - I didn't get your aunt, and did I tell you that I was hanging out with lowest, and I wasn't wearing a lot of makeup, and then I did put on makeup and an outfit and I walked in and lowest, you know, she's observant.

- Yeah. - Oh, you're all excited. - Yeah, I'm excited. - She looks at me, and she's like, and she says, you're gonna, I don't know where she learned

this word, she goes, "I'm concerned." - That's my child, that's my baby. - When I visited, she goes, "Hanner, remember when you put on a makeup and that outfit and I was concerned." - Gini fell off the table.

- Oh, she can turn to bow. - She doesn't know what can she do. - She doesn't know. - No, she knew it. - She knew what it meant, as in, like, she didn't like it.

“Like, I think it was jarring that I suddenly had”

a different outfit on, and she didn't like it. - It's like when, like, your dad shaves his beard and your baby and you, like, you can't. - Exactly, exactly, exactly. So now, when I put an outfit together,

I send it to lowest and lowest, like, the trench. - Oh, good, wait, I'm obsessed with that. That's so sweet, that's so sweet. - And I was getting my makeup done, and she was, I have a daughter, and she was on FaceTime,

and she was obsessed with watching them put makeup on me. And she's the girliest girl. I mean, seeing kids, like, seeing things through kids' eyes.

For the first time, it's, like, I get the whole motherhood thing.

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Plus, free vitamin D3 plus K2 and AG1 welcome kit. - I do have one thing I've been watching TikToks of Cardi B's concert, and I have decided that I wanna go to that concert. - You know Cardi B's, my every day.

- Like I need to go to it. - Do you know that when I first got on reality V, and people were like, this is not a good idea,

- Well, Cardi B was on Love and Hip Hop, and now she's the number one selling rap artists. - It's weight that's so true. - And I was like, you do the math,

“and they were like, I don't know how you have to do”

with Cardi B, and I was like, we're both from New York. - The song she's playing at the concert was what I pre-gamed to. Like my whole 20s of like socializing, I feel like revolved around Cardi B.

- She's so good, and she is, like you can't like away from her as a performer. - And I google to her the other day, we're the exact same age. - Really?

- And then that made me feel really inadequate. I was like, she has three babies, multiple Grammys. (laughs) She went to the Super Bowl, broke up with her boyfriend,

I had this Super Bowl. - Like she's busy, she's busy. - She's busy. - Oh yeah, I don't, I don't know, but I'm on her side, whatever.

- No, I'm on her side, and all I can think about was, and I don't know why this quote sticking out in my head,

but Stefan digs when they first started dating,

so like let me heal you, and I knew in that moment that he was gonna do some really crazy shit. Also, how do you time to cheat during football season? And when I guess that's what they do, but like it's exhausting.

- It's like, yeah, I don't know.

“When men have like jobs, also like so public.”

- So public. - It's like why you really don't give a fuck. - No, and you knew Cardi, we was gonna find out. - So anyway, I wanna give her money and go to her concert.

- I would love to, let's go to C Cardi. - I'm gonna look up some, like, not right now. - Do it after the box, actually. - Actually, I'm gonna look it up right now. - No, it's going to my notes.

Which refresher are you drinking? - I have the strawberry, dragon fruit refresher, with sparkling water. - Love, I have the mango pineapple refresher with less concentrate and green tea.

- I drink a lot today. - I also watch something. - I feel like I'm like ahead of the game. - Wait, I watched the entire tire, tire rebate. - No, I was stuck.

- You gotta say, if that's what it is. - On my plate. - I started it, I started it earlier. - Really? - Okay, break it down.

- I have so many thoughts.

- First of all, I didn't realize how much I watched it,

'cause every clip, I recognized. - Yeah, you're like, I know that. - Like, these girls were iconic, all the time. - All the time.

- Also, I wanted to note,

“when was this, like, 2010, like, when did it start?”

- No, no, earlier, okay, yeah, 2000s. No girls had filler, right? - Right. - Right, especially in their 20s. - It was a crazy time

where people had small lips. - Yeah. - People had people had like, people had like a certain shape chin. - Yeah. - And it actually made me yearn for that time of like,

if they did America's next-time model now, yeah, the girls would look similar. That's very true. - And yeah, it's like, oh, she's a Bruno, or she's black hair, she's sure she's long hair,

but a lot of girls have just the same beauty ideal now. We're back then. She would find these girls that you're like, unique looking, and then next thing you know, you're like, they're a super model.

- So the craziest thing from it was basically, and there's so many crazy things. First of all, how many parts? - There's three episodes. - Okay.

- The craziest thing is that Tira is like narrating, but it's kind of a hit piece on Tira. And Tira doesn't know. Like, J. Menuel basically says he tried to quit after 10 seasons, and she basically responded saying,

like, I'm disappointed, and they were best friends. And then he ends up, the network begs him to come back. He's like, fine, she doesn't talk to him, not on camera, the entire time. So then they go, Tira, what happened with J?

And she's like, I'm not talking about it. - She won't talk about it in the documentary. - In the documentary. - So if something happened, he basically was like, I was psychologically abused after that.

But no, the T is crazy. But then, from the moment he brought us hot ice cream, also people don't talk enough about misjee. - Yeah, misjee. - Yeah, misjee.

- They're on like, stored narrative. - That chemistry of the three of them was just magical. And then they threw a Nigel Barker who's like, the hottest Australian guy. And they were really magic.

But Tira pitched this show from just an idea of like, I want to show that the modeling industry can be open to more diversity. - Yeah. - And it's like the pioneer of that though, I will say.

- So a lot of the stuff that she had dealt with and the industry people think like, she wasn't fully healed from it all. And then she was trying to like, solve it and fix it. - I definitely didn't realize back then

that the show was her idea.

I always thought she was like, she was just the host

and then like she became a producer that it was like, well, she like pitched everyone and they all said me so much money off of that. - Well, then it became like every country. - Every country, yeah.

- Then I started realizing like, it got to the point after it got so popular. They just had to like make things crazier and crazier. And it was stopping about like creating great models.

And also they're clearly not picking the best photos from these photos shoots. Like, they picked a photo and they came to me. - Your neck looks bad. Your hand looks bad.

I'm like, then don't pick that photo. Like, as long as it's on a photo shoot, there'll be one good photo from the whole thing. And it's like, obviously I blink, sorry, I blinked. So that was crazy.

And they just always had the cameras going.

And it's classic reality view where they would pick stories for each girl. And it's like, they'd be like, you're the fat one. - No, she's like, you're, and this girl's like, I'm really skinny and they're like, you're fat

and they'd show up and they'd be like, did you eat a lot of dinner last night? And the girl'd be like, what? But like, she realized like, oh, that's a story. They're narrative, they're putting on me.

And then you had this one girl eat a bagel and they kept showing her eating this bagel, trying to make it like she just couldn't stop eating bagels. And she was like, it was one bagel. - I didn't want bagel once.

- And I was like, I got a girl, I got a girl. But no, it was fucked up. There were many horrible things to happen on the show. It is, look, there is a little bit of a reality TV reckoning that is happening where we're looking back

being like, oh, we abuse the hell out of these people.

And the truth is, a lot of these girls

were like coming from like small jobs. Like this one girl worked at Walgreens. She's like, my life's going to change. But some of their lives got worse from the trauma, from the show.

And then basically, the fashion industry did not respect whoever won America's next top model. So some of the winners were like, right? Yeah, if they got nothing, they got the one thing.

“I think it's unique that me and you were talking about”

as two reality TVers. Yeah, there's certain people that if they don't like how you got there, they'll never respect you. Well, on, I mean, I feel like I could count on my hand, the number of people that have crossed over from reality

TV to mainstream television. Really, actually, I'm actually drawing a blank. - Congratulations. - Would you say she's mainstream, like, actress, though? - She's working on it.

- She's working on it. And that's 20 years later. - And what's funny, you know, Eva? - Yes. - Oh, yes. I wish she was the biggest one. - But she became reality.

She went on to do reality. She went on housewives. But maybe she did act before that. - She did. - Yeah.

- No, she did. - She still does. - There were like a handful of girls, but they did 25 cycles, babe. 25.

Oh, my God.

“Then, do you remember then, scene makeovers?”

- Yeah. - Which again, we love to makeover during that time. And it started just being, like, we're bleaching her hair. - We're cutting her hair short and still sobbing. - Then they started doing dental work.

- What? - One girl was, in the dentist's office for 24 hours, they, like, fucked up her teeth.

She, like, her jaws, like, never gonna be the same.

Her, she's, problem with her bite. - It's never gonna be. - They gave her, like, veneers. - Yeah, they shaved her teeth down. - Yeah.

- And then another one had a gap. And Tyra basically was like, I'm voting you off unless you fix your gap. And the girl's like, I love my gap. And it's so funny, Tyra is like,

you'll never be in a campaign with a gap, even though now, get the London look, like, that's all about the girl. - Revlon, get the London look. - Get the London look.

(laughs) - But then the next season is like, I am all like, the next season. She's telling your girl to get a gap 'cause it'll be more iconic.

- So it was just like, now, a lot of fuckery.

“- It was all a fuckery, but the truth is, is.”

- Well, reality TV is just such an interesting beast in itself. I think it's so funny how they're not funny, but it's fascinating to watch the disconnect from reality TV to the viewer.

Like, there is such a crazy disconnect. Like, when you're watching a scripted show, you're like, and they're acting. I'm not gonna go on their Instagram and be like, you fucking suck because you play Steven on tell me lies.

Like, you can detach that that's an actor. - Yep. - But with reality TV, people can't do that because you're like, no, you did that. And it's like, okay, but I didn't edit it like that.

And there's just, I don't know why they're such a disconnect, especially because we live in a world where it's like their social media. And it's like, we find out the truth about everything, no matter what people will like break things down.

But reality TV is just like, they haven't figured it out, they haven't figured it out. - Because the viewers, we don't want to know the truth. Like, even if when people are like, this is what happened, it's like, no, no, no,

because then I'm an idiot. - It's a version of what happened. - Yeah. - But it's not fully what happened. - There's a scene when Tara, Tyra, Tyra is yelling.

Like, I was rooting for you and that went viral.

it was so much worse. - Yeah.

- And obviously the scene got cut down.

“Like whenever you guys see like a horrible scene”

that lasts two minutes, that could have been an hour long of chaos. So that's really, that's my biggest thing with reality TV is like, there are things that are said that really affect people's reactions

but you never see it. - Right. - One thing also that was just horrible was this girl who worked for Walgreens, the one who cheated.

- Yeah, Shandy. - Trigger warning, she was essayed. And then the morning they were like filming her, like you have to call him. Then she had to film the guy, her calling the guy,

asking if he had a STD. Like this is like the most traumatizing thing's ever and there's a power dynamic here. - Yeah. - You're not gonna tell a producer.

- Right. - No.

- It's like okay, we'll replace you in a second.

- Then I get off the show. And she even was like, I wanna go home and then they're like, fine, you can call your boyfriend. Like there's a power dynamic where these girls are not actors with agents, right?

- Right. - And a TV show where they can say, I don't feel comfortable with that, right? - You are just being flinched around. - Let's not to mention, they were probably

what 22, 23, maybe they were 21, was 25 or 22. - They were babies, well one of them was getting inappropriately touched by a male model. And she was like, what would Tyra do? Tyra would respectfully speak up.

And she spoke up and they were like,

“you need to learn how to deal with that.”

It was like, it was chaos. It was pretty, well, we were younger watching that stuff. And don't you remember the scene when she cheated, like how traumatized that was? - Yeah.

- So then she tried to like fix her relationship and she said she'd be walking on the street and people would yell at her cheater, horror, slut, and they had to break up. - Yeah.

- So anyway, what's the cheater? - So any, hey, wait, I can't wait to go home and watch that. It's really good, but it is, wait, do you think Tyra's pissed? - I think Tyra's in Australia.

- Yeah. - Tyra's in Australia. - She's married, right? She just got married recently. I feel like in the past couple of years,

moved to Australia, started hot ice cream. - Yeah. But it is interesting how I do think she became this character. - Like this, like, hope this is, I mean. - Ooh.

(laughing) - It's like, mean hope. - This like, nowhere of all, like,

a very powerful, like, yeah, she's a character.

- Like, when she talks, she talks, like, mystical. - What do you mean? - She likes to keep it slow. - Yeah, like, yeah. - And talk, like, this, I believed in you.

- Yeah, I trusted you, and then she smises. - That makes me uncomfortable. - But it is, but none of this would have even happened. Had COVID not happened. Because people didn't really go back

and, like, re-watch and be like, that was kind of fucked up until we were like locked in the house. - That's what Tyler said. - Really?

- She was that during COVID, everyone started seeing it from a new perspective. - That's when I first started seeing, like, this was not cool. - But the second and aired people were addicted.

You know it was good if I watched it 'cause it had to be like super popular for me to find that. - Well, it was on the CW, I think. - Yeah.

And all the girls are just like, in this house, I loved it. 'Cause I loved anything, like, super girly like that. - Well, you also probably wanted to go on it. - It's so bad, like, I wanted to go on it, so bad.

“I think they even did, like, a model search”

in at, like, my local mall. But I was like, my mom was like, no, I'm not going to that. - She got lost. - Malls are for shopping. (laughing)

I realized something. - Like, before you say that, can I just go to one of your note things that this condoms at the Olympics? 'Cause I'm just like, would love to know the thought process.

- Oh, I have, I have the gossip about it. - I feel like it, we squad is me just going around the world, trying to figure out stuff, and then being like, guys, this is what I figured out, and then you're just telling this. - So, everyone's like, oh, they went through

10,000 condoms at the Olympics. Apparently, there's boxes around, and the Olympians, I think, one of the ice skaters was saying, the Olympians take it, until it gives to people, like, it's like a super girly thing.

- Does it say, 20, 20, something like that? - I think it does, so it's like a funny souvenir. So, like, they're not going through it. They're all just like, taking it home. - I mean, I do think--

- I didn't know that was a story. - Well, they say the Olympians, like, it gets crazy in the Olympic village. They're all just like, hooking up with all this disaster. - Now, there's a reality TV show.

- 100%, however, I also know a lot of these athletes are weird about sex and competition, where they're like, won't do it before. - Yeah, like, they don't want to feel weaker or something, which is such a man thing.

Like, it takes your adrenaline away. - Yeah, like, your energy that you might need. - I'd be like, trust me, I'm not going to call anyone. - You're going to be fat, all these times. - It's only the men that we can't give you before.

- It's like, okay, I have some mental brain power.

that he was like, I can't, I can't have some. - Or guys, and I was like, you're like a loaded gun right now. - I don't want to. (laughing) - Now you tell me he doesn't jerk off.

And he was like, crazy, like, we'd kiss, and he'd be like, oh, no, I was like,

“you need to go to the bathroom and deal with that yourself.”

- Okay, that's so uncomfortable. - He was literally a loaded gun walking around. And I was like, just jerk off, that's your only problem. But, or people get superstitious about it. - Okay.

- The athletes, it's like, I can't. - I realize that landman and Yellowstone. - Same guy. - Not the same show. - Not the same show, but the same person wrote both.

- What's the difference? - One is on a ranch, like, uh, you know. - I don't know. - And then another one's like about an oil rig, like, on, like, in Texas.

- An oil ranch. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So one's an oil ranch, and one's a not oil ranch. - Yeah.

Yellowstone's better than landman. - Oh. - I would say, but landman will be getting to season. - Landman's getting some, like, good chatter about it. - No, it's definitely a good show.

I mean, the guy that wrote it,

he's basically, like, a version of my, like,

Lord and Savior, Shonda Rhimes. He just must crunch, adder all, and write these shows. - Speaking of reality, V. Kazee Randolph, the winner of Colton season. - Mm-hmm.

- Who we love? Her sisters and show Randolph. - Yeah. - Starting in that. - There is something about someone getting famous

on reality, V. And then they're, they're siblings. - They're in their siblings. - They're in their siblings. - They're in their siblings.

- They're in their siblings. - 'Cause they weren't on reality, V. - Yeah. No pivoting careers. I feel like, are, we don't talk about that.

- I love pivoting careers. I'll do it tomorrow. - No, I love to see people that have pivoted.

“You have to, you have to keep it evolving.”

- That's why I don't play pickable. 'Cause I'm afraid once I start, I'm gonna get hooked, 'cause I actually have a lot of friends who are on the pickable tour right now. - Since I stay on Colton's neck,

and I haven't even watched traders this season, I did see a thing where they filmed three union. And it was actually Lisa Randall, like, did Instagram story and choose basically like, I brought up what you all wanted me to bring up.

Now, if you, again, if you see it, I have no idea, like, how it will be edited. But the rumor is, is that he walked out of the reunion, and then came back and no one could-- - I had a nickel.

- And no one could bring up that he's a stalker. - Like, I don't know. - Isn't that crazy? - Yeah. - Men get away with anything out of the reunion.

- I love that. - When is getting ahead of it? - Well, because she's a reality-- - She knows what to do. - She knows. - She knows.

- Exactly, but she knows what the people want to see. - She knows what the kids want to see. - Yeah, I'm certain that the problem with traders recently is that they voted off Candace. - Yeah.

“- It's left with the quieter personalities.”

Even though Mora is not quiet and no one's showing Mora. - Oh, you know what else is interesting that I feel like happened during COVID. People went on like real tirades for reality TV of like, get rid of the villain.

- Mm-mm. - And it's like, okay, but if we get rid of like, you're so called villain, - They're well not be a show. - Yeah.

- You know? - Well, within it realizes when you cut the head off a villain and another villain needs to come-- - Right.

- They're always has to be a villain.

- Right. - And people, yeah, they love being like, "This person's the problem." - Yeah. - But then how come there's problems every season?

- Yeah, like, there's gonna be, yeah, and that person's gone. - Do the mask, everyone. - Right. - It's fine by too.

- Another random thought. - Yeah, and then I have something. - Well, you go first. - So the other night, Des, your husband.

If you didn't know where I was talking about, Des wanted to come to my building to use one of my amenities, to use my cold plunge. - Mm-mm.

- And I said, "Des, I actually made dinner. Would you like to have dinner after like use?" The cold plunge. He got off a flight. - Yeah.

- He got off a flight.

He never ended up using the cold plunge,

and he came and he had dinner at my apartment. - Well, I find out that behind my back, Paige is cooking homemade meals for my husband 'cause he's not getting taken care of right now. Let's be honest.

- I mean, a bowl of nays. - Well, he takes me thinking, "I don't know what's going on." He's like, "Hey, Paige asked me to go to dinner." I'm like, "You don't think I know these things.

"You're the last to know." - Well, I've been trying my goal that I set in January, but I didn't start till February, which it's okay to start your 20, 26 goals in any month. - Normalize.

- It doesn't have to be in January, and if you don't start in January, it's not like you can't do it. - Yeah. - And I wanted to make something,

cook something once a week, and Sunday just seems to be the easiest. - Well, Sunday sauce. - To do 'cause you have all day to like,

So I made bolognese for the first time. - Oh, did he compliment it?

- He did, but here's the thing.

It was like a little... It was like a little bit watery.

“My mom was like, "Well, why didn't you call me and ask me what?"”

And I was like, "Because I was trying to do it on my own." - No, and she's like, "No, babe." - Don't try to be a hero. - And I realized it's really hard to cook. - I love like when your mom is cooking a meal,

you love, and you're like, "One day, I'm gonna do it." And you're washing it, it's just so easy. It seems so simple, and then when you're alone, you're just scared. She makes everything up so easy.

- Oh, come. Everyone loved the page and I had to try new things with Cam, and it was one of my favorite episodes. - You know, that my dad rewatches it, probably at least every other night.

He says, "Can you bring up the YouTube?" - I love him so much. Also, Cam did not let us touch the food. And at that point, I was like, "Oh, this is her art." And she's like, "Don't disrespect my art in my own home."

And I was like, "Go off, Cam." - So we didn't really break that down. You know, she really, she really was like, don't touch anything you'll mess it up. - Maybe she'll give us another try,

but I don't think we've proved anything in her sense. - No. - But if anything, she was like, "I was right about you too." - This weekend, I actually, you know, Torque can be lonely as you know.

- Yeah. - And you know, me and Ali are just running around. - Right. - Now when Ali gossips to me, she has to decide if she wants you to know about it or not.

- Are you kidding me? - Which is so annoying, 'cause I told her, "One, you don't remember anything." - Hey, no. - One, I don't remember anything.

- Two, you don't care. - I don't, three, who are you gonna tell? - No, we gotta fight in the car. She looks to me, she goes, "Oh my god." - Wait, you're gonna tell a page, aren't you?

- And I was like, "Yes, but it doesn't matter." - Oh, and then I tried to lie to her and say, "I wasn't gonna tell you." And then she goes, "Now I feel like you're lying to me." - And I go, "Well I am."

And I wanna have trust in this friendship. I am gonna tell a page, but page is not relevant. - The only time I get nervous about that is, of course people say, "You can't tell anyone." And I'm like, "I'm not gonna tell anyone."

And then like, "You are by proxy who I'm gonna tell." - Yeah. - "Only time I get worried." - "The only time." Is that you're gonna accidentally think like,

something's funny and you'll slip it in and say something. And then you'll be like, "I wasn't supposed to say that." - That's kinda in her 20s. - Yeah, okay. - I've grown, yeah.

- I also, I was so proud of myself 'cause Ally told me a secret about something. And then one of our other friends called her and Ally looked at me 'cause she started bringing up the topic and I didn't, I actually kept the secret.

- Yeah. - And she afterwards was so proud of me.

And I was like, "No, I've never kept a secret with her."

- Yeah. - And it actually looked so good. So I'm getting close to the Ally. - No, it really does feel good. - That I was like, "Yeah, I'm not going around

"telling your business because I'm telling you to page, "I'm telling you to page, "I'm telling you to this, I know I'm on." - You don't. - You actually, you're so funny. You'll be about to tell me something

and then you'll be like, "Yeah, who are you gonna tell?" And then you'll be like, "You don't fucking know anyone "and you'll be like, "Who are you going to tell him?" Like, whoever you're going to tell, it doesn't matter.

“- You have to know in your gossip, like, webs,”

what hits a dead end. Like, you're a dead end for me. Like, once I tell you, it dies there. - Here's one thing that people don't talk enough about too. I will like, women are so smart.

If I want someone to know something, now that's, that's like strategic gossip, where you're like, "I know if I tell this person." She's not gonna keep her damn mouth shut. And I know it's gonna get back to this person

and I want that person to know. - And that's, and it's usually just, I want them to know, I don't fuck with that. - That's the strategies of war that you're discussing, like, you literally are playing.

- Yeah. - Okay, let me plant this seed with that person that I fucking hate them. - Oh, that is smart, actually. I'm so scared of you sometimes. (laughing)

Anyway, we're on the road. - And anyway, I had camaraderie with Alley. - I had such a fun show in D.C. and Philly. Last night, I go to Long Island and I'm tired. Yeah, third city, three days in a row.

Long Island is so fucking funny. First of all, the stage was like a circle. So it was like gladiator, like for clowns. Like walking, walking, and two guys are sitting next to each other. And you know that pisses me off with that.

- To know the first stand-up I ever saw was as Jeanne's a Dave Matthews man. What is this guy? - Dave's a bell. - No.

- Who's the guy that, like, got a bunch of plastics or drain now? - Oh, dang cook. - Dane cook, and he was on a circle stage

and I always think of it at any time I say something.

- Everyone's like, bro, we know the best show. - The double fuck you. - Yes.

“- I think I have to shoot a special in a circular stage.”

- My cities are in his car. - You actually said that to me so many. - I'm sorry, like that special was iconic. I don't go fuck anyone says.

- Don't. (laughing) We've got enough going on with Neil.

“- So anyway, also, I don't know what he's up to anymore.”

- Oh, the last I heard, like, his brother, like, stole all his money or something crazy? - Yeah. So I was in the middle. See these two guys say next to each other

and I'm like, if you guys aren't gay, we're gonna have a problem. - And the guy, this long island kid is so funny. He's like, you know, I had a date, but then she saw me on one of those Facebook pages.

- Am I dating the same person? - Yeah, and everyone goes, oh, then another girl. - Are those real? - Yeah. Another girl starts speaking up.

Like, it becomes full judge duty. And like, the long island girls are like, we'll take care of this for you, Hannah. And this girl goes, I know him. And I know he was talking to my, whatever.

- And he's like, I'm, I'm always happy.

- I just met someone, I just met someone, I'm talking to multiple people. And it got all, it was very spring, right? But it was very, very funny. But then, because it's around,

I decided I have a victim, right? Like, he's my victim. I'm gonna, like, tear this guy apart the whole time 'cause, like, he's loving it. - Yeah.

- Matt, typical Matt. (laughs) - So, but at one point, I'm going, I'm talking in the round. And then I literally am trying to find Matt. - Yeah.

- Yeah, I got lost, like, 'cause everything you have emotions, okay? - Emotions, like, as you couldn't find Matt and I was like, did he leave? And they're like, no, he's over there. Couldn't find my footing.

And then, well, you have no directional awareness. - No, that's exactly. - Exactly. - Well, you don't drive. - I didn't know where I was in the beginning.

How was I gonna find my way home? - Right. - So, then, it's a circle.

But then everyone could see each other.

And guess who is there? - Full family, mom, dad, Nana, Papa. - So, everyone's, stare yours? - Yeah. - Everyone's staring at my parents while making, like,

insane jokes and that, like, sexing. And front of my dad. And my Nana is there, and at one point, I just have to shout it out. And everyone's sort of chanting Nana.

- Oh, that's so sweet. - She's like, I can't hear anything. - What are they saying? - We're all in red. - I've to thread, they said justice for Nana.

And she just once said you guys know, she loves the fans, she loves all of you. She wishes she can make you all a chicken warmer, John. - Whatever happened with the threads thing. - The gigglers took care of that.

- Took care of it. - No, they're literally like, henchmen. - Well, I mean, she's like, she's a brilliant grandma. - Like, we all have to put a note on that.

- No, it's insane. - No, it's insane. - But I don't think she even knows that happened on threads. We tried to protect her from--

- Honestly, I'm-- - I'm 32, 33. - I'm 33, and I don't even know how to work threads. Like, if something was happening about me on threads, I'd have no idea.

- Thank God, and I need that. - But the problem with threads, because the algorithm, it recommends the worst things for me when I'm scrolling Instagram. So it'll be like me looking at like, yeah.

- Chrome lamps and cats and then suddenly it's like,

“the worst thing I hate most in this world”

said it's Domest Joe. So the second thing about you, and then I have to be like, don't recommend so-- - Yeah, the phones are killing us slowly.

Now this brings me to the most important point

at the night. Oysters, do you like oysters? In your heart of hearts, like you would never last meal an oyster. - Never.

If I really broke it down, what I like is vinegar. - I like-- - Like a coutrement in the vehicle for the sauce. - The sauce. - Yeah.

- Now, I would argue, I like clams better. - Well, yeah, they're sweet, they're cute. - They're sweet. - They're small, they're adorable. - They go in pastas.

- You can't put a oyster in a pasta? - No, you can't. - This is the thing, oysters have incredible PR. Well, the whole Aphrodisiac sets them the lightest part. - Yeah.

- Aphrodisiac, but then not a clam, doesn't? - Right. - Are they like cousins? - Well, both bottom feeders. - Love ears, so some kind.

- Yeah. - But like oysters are out here. - Yeah. - Rego or jam? - Or jam?

(laughs) - And that is, that is, but I feel like they got, they got pigeon holes in that. (laughs) - They got type.

- Their team was like, you're just, no one takes you, you're not elevated. - You're very patient. - You're very patient. - You're very patient, you're very patient.

- You're very patient. - They're very patient. - Oyster. - Oyster is over there with caviar. And clams is like, oysters are coming in,

you know, a seafood tower. - They're at weddings. - Mm-hmm. - Yes. - They're at gallows.

- Where clams, you know, occasionally in Montauk, but it's not, you don't see clam bar. - Well, clam bar. - Well, clams should be at a picnic table. - You're not having oysters on a picnic table.

- And yeah, oysters are a little bigger, but like, I'm telling you guys, clams are where it's at. - Yeah. - And flavor-wise. And then have you for boiled a clam?

- You can boil it. - Yeah. - And you put 'em in butter? - Yeah, they're so good. - So good.

- So now I just need to know, hello.

“- Although, have you a friend of oyster's rock-a-valley?”

Again, great. - That's the best. - That's just, yeah, rock-a-valley. Elevated. - Yeah, rich.

- Come from money. (laughs) - They're neppo babies. - Yeah. - They're neppo babies.

“Like, the rock-a-fellars have nothing to do with oyster.”

There are no oysters.

They're like, "Mysters have fucking pearls."

- Yeah. - No one's opened the clam and you're just like, "Is that sand?" - It's not against me. - It's not against me.

- It's not against me. - It's not against me. (laughs) - Yeah, we can. - Yeah.

And oysters are jewelry for royals. - I actually have one more Michael course thing. - Yeah. - So after the Michael course show, I walk out. And this was the most New York thing ever.

I'm standing there looking gorgeous in my trench coat. And some guy on a bike who, I'm not gonna say he lived on the bike, but let's just say, don't know what he was doing on the bike.

- Yeah. - Who wasn't like working or anything. - Right. - He just like stops right in front of me. But you know what, it's been a long night

and I've been socializing already. I'm like, what's one other person? - Yeah. - And he goes, "Where were you?" (laughs)

And I'm in front of Lincoln Center. And I go, "I just look at the sky." I'm like, "There's no way he's gonna know what this is." And I just go, "I was at the Michael course show." And he goes, "I love Michael course."

By the way, it's like a 50 year old man. - Okay. - I love Michael course. I think he was a little drunk.

And I was like, "Oh, yeah, amazing."

And he's like, you know, what a great performer. - Yeah. - That's when I realized like, "Oh, he thinks..." And he was like, "I've been to a Michael course show back in the 80s." And I was like, "Cool."

So we can't do all he think it was. - He was like, "Maybe Michael Blue Blade." But I don't think that's like Michael's some Michael Bolton. Maybe Michael Bolton. - Yeah, maybe Michael Bolton.

But he was like, "You still know how many these stories about how great Michael course is in concert." And I'm sitting there in my trench and I'm like, "We got to wrap this up." And then he's like, "How long was the show?" And I was like, "I actually only like 12 minutes."

And he was like, "Wow, he used to do two hours." This conversation went on so much longer than it should have. But in that moment, I was like, "I can't wait to tell the good glars about this beautiful New York City moment." And then my car came and then I said, "Sir, have a great night."

And he said, "You too, I'm so happy you had a great time at the show." I said, "I'll see you at the next Michael course show." - No, thanks. - Thank you.

And that's the epitome of New York City.

- And that's the thing you don't have to understand each other to get along. - No. No. Wait, last thing, and we'll end here. Have you watched any of the JFK Jr. and Carolyn Vissatcha?

- Well, I'm a little annoyed because I very recently watched the JFK Jr documentary. So I feel like it's so fresh, I don't want to like compare the two. But Ali's been watching it, and she's obsessed with it. - It's good, 'cause you love a period piece. - Well, it's not like period.

It's like in the '90s, but you don't know what they were really like, because there really is no press of them, and she did not want to be photographed. - Yeah.

“And so you kind of take it with like a grain of salt that that's how she was.”

But I do think the acting is good. - It's really good, and he's very good looking. - And this is Ryan Murphy, right? - When does Ryan Murphy sleep? - No, who knows?

- 'Cause you know he has came on the phone every three seconds. - Right. - Another idea. - And then he's doing all of these like serial killer things. - The aesthetic of the show is phenomenal.

Like you very much feel like you're in New York City in the '90s. It actually made me like upset, 'cause I was like, wait, it would have been so cool to live in New York in the '90s and be like in your '20s. It looked so fun. And after a junior, they didn't really have security.

They were just like, trying to live a normal life, even though he was like the most famous bachelor in the world. - Yeah, well, there was no social media, so it was like real paparazzi. And he dated like a very famous... - Same with donors.

- He dated this girl, her name was Darrell Hannah. - Do you remember this? - Yes. - Yeah, you know who she is? - Yes.

- That was like her, I think, biggest role. - She's been another thing, too.

“- Yeah, and I think she was then like went on to like Mary.”

- He loved someone else. - He loved someone. - Well, that's one take away, he loves a boy. - He loves a boy, but yeah, that is a beautiful man, but what a crazy story. - Yeah, and then they have like someone who plays Jackie O.

It just seems like they have like a tough, I just, I don't know how they did that. - Oh yeah, I'm definitely gonna watch that. - No, it's got there's three episodes out. - And how's your book going? Just through that episode.

- If we meet any progress? - Yeah, it has a small stand still. (laughing) No, I'm reading seven husbands of Evelyn, you go. - Are you reading it like I'm playing?

- Are you reading it like I'm playing? - Are you reading on planes or are you eye padding? - No, I'm eye padding on planes, I haven't gone full rogue. - Because I'm flying out to LA next week, so I might bring my book. The gigglers are truly are so funny.

Like I'll get messages, and then I'll get messages. Like, then we'll talk about it on the pod, and then I'll get messages of girls being like, okay, I know when someone's sold to you and you're reading level because teach their own, but like I think you're correct

and then I had like a legitimate like literature teacher.

“She was like, "Withering heights, what's the ring?"”

- Stick to the seven husbands and you're telling you not to try to read "Withering Heights."

And I was like, don't worry, she'll, she'll know real soon

“in that first paragraph that she's not gonna make.”

- It was like, I'm a literal professor and it's a very hard book.

Like, not the be-tree you're looking for.

“- Oh. - Anyway, I'm just trying to like,”

"Well, maybe I'm looking at you." - I'm looking at you. - I'm reading. - Who is she? - I don't know, but my husband wants me to cook a home cooking meal now 'cause of you, so we'll discuss that later.

- My husband. - Your husband, we share a husband. Um, that's a good question, buddy. Thank you guys for listening. We love you so much. - Special thanks to Duncan for supporting us this episode.

And we'll talk to you later this week episode two coming out soon. Bye. (upbeat music)