Simplify Your Life with Anderson .Paak

So back then it was it was said that I got the races on and it was it was a long process

“just it just just happened like this. I didn't come out like this.”

There's a whole process on the road. You see for like that you probably had the retainers. Yeah. They were like we're going to work on. Yeah, we're going to work on it. The jaw fasteners and all that. We have all that. What you got to do me like that. I'm sorry. I'm going to have to hit you. Damn. I was like I forgot. I just hit here. Just hold on. I said you got a good job. And you were a chubby little dude.

Yeah. I was so hefty created. Yeah, I was. Yeah. You were eating your way. I was hanging.

I ate because I'm an happy. Yeah. I was eating for mom. Work so much so she knows how to cook. She can burn, but she's not time. She just be like, here's 20 bucks. Think it out. Hey, Craig and Black. I am in Black today. The man and black. She all in blue. You know, this this episode today made me reminded me of one of the ask if you remember

when you used to take drum lessons. Oh, yes. How were you when you started? I was in elementary school and I had to be like in fifth grade. Well, I thought you were even younger than that. Yeah. Oh, no. I don't think if anything, it was fourth grade, but I didn't think it was fourth grade.

“I think it was fifth grade. But and folks out there drum lessons back in the day. I had”

drum sticks and I had a drum pad that was made out of solid rubber. It was a solid rubber pad and it was on an angle. Yeah. And I had a little circle in the middle. And then you eventually moved to like a pad that was a drum. It was a pad like a pad. The material that is actually a drum was on a pad about this big. Yeah. Yeah. That was the extent of my drum lessons. I could not get past that drum pad. And look back on how music was taught when we were coming up, man. You know,

it is the case of wanting to get kids interested in music because we come from a family of musicians on both sides. Music has singers. And we grew up with our aunt, Robbie, who lived

downstairs and was a piano teacher. So the music was always strumming through our house. So I

sent from four years old wanted to play the piano because I could hear the scales happening and I could imitate the scales even at four. But you know how she would start us out with the piano keys on a cardboard. Oh, it was terrible. We're sitting next to the piano and I'm like, I want to go on the instrument and she's like, nope. And we did that for weeks and I was so mad because I was like, I didn't come down here to play on a so, you know, I think the approach to teaching kids music

these days is a little better. Yeah. Yeah. My son who has taken piano lessons. His teacher first thing comes out of her mouth. What song would you like to play? Yeah. Yeah. And he said, old town

“wrote and she found him the sheet music for it. That's how you grab because he's still taking lessons”

now and he's 16. And it's just such a better way of teaching. Just like taking a kid out to a basketball court. You want to teach him basketball and no ball and no basket. No ball. It's just like just a magic. You're running around. Think about it. Hold your hands in the right position. Our guest today is a musical genius who hopefully has a better story than we did. Yeah. Yeah. I can't wait to hear how he got his shoes to music. Yeah. Thank God. He wasn't. He didn't have Aunt Robbie. I want to

find out if he had a practice pad. Yeah. That's just to start straight on the drum. But why don't you introduce him? I will. I will. And he's a young and too. He's a youngster. Oh, let's see how young. Yeah. He's got a baby face. And we're talking about Anderson Pack who is a boundary pushing artist producer now director and nine-time Grammy Award winner. He emerged from his roots as a teenage church drummer in Otsnard, California with a breakout album Venice and the

universally praised album Malibu. He's expanding his creative reach through his newest film K-Pop's

So Mr. Pack will you come join us.

“I mean, I want to zoom in on the shoes. Like can we do that? I mean, you said that's it. That's a”

Japanese brand. That was high top. Those are the mules. What's the bad? Look up the heel. Those are fire. Fire. Well, welcome. Welcome, man. Thank you for having me. Yeah. Yeah. Are you kidding? We are honored. I mean, I love you to death. I mean, you are more than just talented. I mean, you got you got you got you quadruple threat or all the threats, you know, personality, talent. You can act your butt off. You can produce you, you are gifted musician and seem like a

really, really good man. Wow. Thank you. So we know actor and director. Yeah. Right. Hmm. If I wasn't doing enough stuff. Yeah. Well, welcome to the club. Talk to work. Thank you so much. Yeah. What are you? Did you have a drum pad? Did you have a drum pad? Did you have a drum pad? My drum pad was the couch. See the bread, pots and pans.

“And then I was driving everyone crazy. And eventually they got a drum kit in the house, my steppops.”

How old were you? I was about 12. I wasn't like six grade. You had real drums and six grade. Yeah. But it almost didn't happen. I was supposed to play. I wanted to play saxophone. Okay. I wanted to serenade the ladies. I wanted to be it. You know, I was like the window with a wheel. And it was like, we had a saxophone. And I was like, well, I damn shouldn't play in the flu. Wait. So you went to get a saxophone. Yeah. I was just started six grade in middle

school. And I was going to, I was like, I'm going to band because before that, I was really in a music

dancing, everything. But I was like, I want to play instrument now. And it was the first day. And

I was so dead set on the sax. And there was no more left than it said. All we have is the drums. We have the bass drum or the snare drum, which one do you want to play? And I was, I didn't even think what was going to be my plan B. So I was like, I guess I'll pick the drums. I picked the bass drum. And they had a snare playing on these big old things. So I'm like, I can't kind of, you know, girls with this. And I was like, baby, I love you. I met the window. Yeah.

In the garden. It was the thing on George the Jungle. Getting the cops called on me. Yeah, it was just been all bad. So I was about to quit. And I was like, home one day, my steppops had a drums kit in the house. And he was playing on it. He's playing along to some prince records. And I didn't even know he played. And he was like, I heard you're playing drums now. So I got a drum kit. And I didn't think about the whole drum kit in the sense. Because in bang,

it was just separate drums. Right. Right. So he had the drum kit. And I was like, okay, this is cool. And when he finally got off of it, I, uh, I hopped on. And it was the first thing I ever did where I just picked it up really quick. You did, uh, like, an instrument wise. And before that, I was trying to play basketball. Everything else was really terrible. And I got on that kit. And my mom

came running out dancing. And she started dance. I never really seen her dance before. So I was like, whoa,

like, this is crazy. Like, I'm making a beat that's causing people to dance. Yeah, I want to keep doing this. And so your steppops, you called him. Yeah. He was a drummer. Yeah. So you learned just by hearing him play or you really learned when you were in bands. Yeah. You showed me a few things. Okay. Then right when I started playing in the house, my mom gave me like all her records. She was like

“okay, you need to learn Archie Bell and the drums needs learn earth when to fire and bring”

learn these beats. And so I was just doing that every day at the house after school. And then my god sister came by and she said, oh, you're playing drums. You need to come to church with me. And she took me to church. And it was the black gospel church. Yeah. And there wasn't very many black people in the city of Oxnard, where I'm from. But they were all there at the church. They know. Oh, when that one church, everybody. Yeah, yes. And that's where I learned really learned how to play.

It was the best musicians in the world coming through and playing behind a choir, playing behind you know, organist and choir directors. I'm a church kid. So I grew up playing drums all the way to those, you know, about three to years old when I, you know, I couldn't really do it anymore because I was traveling a lot. But since I was little, I was picking up on grooves and I was really into dancing.

Like I wanted to be like, I was grew up in front of team. My mom was always working and my

sisters pretty much raised me and, you know, in front of the, in front of the TV. So I grew up watching

And, you know, now when I listen to music, it's tough because like I produce, I write and everything. So it's tough to kind of like turn that off and just like just enjoy song sometimes. But I really love when something has a nice groove, good drum tones and I really love chords

“and also like clever lyrics. Yeah. So I think that could be, you know, anything but, um,”

yeah, when it comes to like dancing and stuff, I guess I'm, it's the drums when you, we, our generation when you say I watched TV all the time and I used to, I, I was waiting for you to say soul-trained. But it was like, oh my god. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it wasn't even on when you were little. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, we, you know, you're a part of it, you know, the soul-trained lines, part of everyone's culture, but we were there. That's yeah.

It's like a, you know, I'm getting old and I'm like, oh yeah, they had MTV, you know, and you would talk about Oxnardin. There weren't a lot of black folks and your neighbor, that tells, how you, who lived in Oxnard and, you know, were you born there, which your mother from there was here, you know. Yeah, Oxnard's a beautiful place. It's small town. A lot of people think it's like the valley or it's about an hour north

“of LA going towards Santa Barbara. And it's a beach town. It's a lot of agriculture, so a lot”

of Latinos. And when I was coming up, it was mostly Latinos, like second generation Latinos,

and white people. And I was like the only black kid in, in my high school. And my mom ended up there because she, well, my mom's story is crazy, but, you know, long story short, she was an adopted kid. During the 50s, during the Korean War, she was a found kid. Her and my uncle were found abandoned. And she was adopted, brought to an orphanage, adopted by black parents who were in the military. And so she was raised in Compton, California all around LA up until her 20s.

And she met my dad. He was in the military as well. He's from Philly. And he was stationed in Port Magu, which is in Oxnard. And they met there, they met in the club. And eventually, my dad battled with addiction and several different things. But they had me and my little sister in Oxnard. And that's where we were raised until my pops went to prison. And then we moved to Ventura, which is just the next city over. But yeah, we were just like, just a tight family.

I grew up on the middle, a boy of three sisters from my mom and my pops was Rolling Stone. He had a bunch of kids too, but mostly women. So I was just, yeah, the boy that was there, to like, provide entertainment and fun. And sometimes therapists, you know, everybody's talking about each other and I'm in the middle. Like, I know I don't understand the same thing to the other sister. Yeah. But yeah, we're all really close to my mom. And she just, you know,

she was a workaholic. She also worked in agriculture, growing up. So she was gone a lot, doing a

long thing. I never seen her work for anybody. She was entrepreneur. And you know, she was just

like all about her family, keeping her family together and working hard. And we had a lot of fun. It was a lot of trauma, too. But yeah, yeah, you, you have had an amazing story of a lot of ups and a lot of downs and few curves. But did you feel like you had a community of friends in Oxnard being the only black kid in your school? What was that like for you, just making it as a kid? Yeah, I thought with all kinds of stuff. It was really dope, though, in a blessing that

I grew up playing drums in church because I had different communities. So I had my church family, which was, that was where a lot of the black culture and everything surrounding that was right, you know, thrived at. And then I had, when I go to school, it was like my white friends, my Mexican friends, then I had that. And then at home, everybody was doing their thing. My sisters were listening to all kinds of stuff from, you know, SWV, New Edition, and Raya. And my mom

wouldn't go past like, Tony, Tony, Tony, Freddie Jackson. You couldn't play netten, you know,

netten after that. It was always, you know, don't touch it. It was like, you know, that was what

was going on. And then I go to school and they were listening to Nirvana and Radiohead and all this is the food fighters. And I was getting all of these things. And I was growing up really quickly, I felt like I can't wait to get out of this town. It's not enough diversity. It's too big for this town. Especially when I started doing music, I wanted to escape to all these different places that I've seen, like, on television or on movies or on records that were here. And looking back

on it, I was just dead. As soon as I graduated, I'm going to lay, I'm going to make it, I'm going to get signed, I'm going to be doing all these different things. And it didn't happen exactly like that. And I'm actually glad it did, because you know, build a lot of character.

“And I'm glad that I grew up in the small town now, because I think it gave me a different kind”

of perspective. And I don't even know if I would have survived that coming up in LA when I looked

thinking that it wasn't black enough with the kids that I grew up with in church. And then I go to the suburbs and I'm the only black kid. And I thought I had to be the black spokesman for the whole school. Right. I think my mom saw that, too. And my mom deals with, you know,

“being an orphan. And that's why racial she is. Right. She didn't know anything about her”

Korean culture, you know, and we grew up black in a black household. And I didn't know about anything about Koreans. Anything I, when I found out my mom was creating, I just took it as something I could tell to people and it made me exotic. I don't know where you when you found out or when you realized she was Korean. I was, I was about like, I think she was telling us this one was about 10, 11. When we started sitting down, she started telling us her story. Uh-huh.

And she wouldn't always do it, but she would open up sometime, you know. And she was like, yeah,

when we stopped there, you're in your uncle. We were found. And this is now we'd be like, what? That's crazy. And okay, so we're Korean. Okay, I'm mixed. That's why I told you about the tell everybody. That's a story to tell. When did your mom tell you the story of your biological father? Because she, did you remember him? Because he was in prison, like you were seven.

“Right. And did you, did you remember that story, the story of him, the story of what happened”

with them? Yeah. Yeah, totally. Um, you know, my pops went to prison when I was around six or seven. And um, I saw him. He was a twin. And um, which is a trip. Yeah. Yeah, there's a whole... We got to talk a little bit about that story with that. Yeah. But you can tell them apart. So, um, you know, I remember, we're with my babysitter at the house. And I've seen, I heard some of screaming. I go outside. And my pops is on top of my mom is blood in the street. And he's like,

"Get back in the house." My babysitter's screaming like, "Don't do it, don't do it." And he's like, "I got a gun." And I didn't know, it was in complete shock. I was really into now. I was like, "No, that must be my uncle." Like, this can't be because my mom didn't tell me about any of this.

And you know that? I didn't see anything. I never saw them fight.

Now that I think about it, he was gone from the house. But my mom was always saying like,

“he's working. He's getting his health together. But I didn't know that he was actually going through”

rehab. And my mom was trying to get him help through AA. And he was a strange. She didn't know where he was. And she was so me, you know, he was on drugs and everything. But she felt like she was going just as crazy. She was just trying to get him off. She'd be chasing people down and trying to find them doing all these things. And everything just came to a head that day. And we left ran out the house. And my pops ended up getting arrested and sent a prison for years after that. But it was around that time

that she told me, you know, your pops had a very different life. You know, then a lot of people he came up in Philly. He got kicked out the house when he was a teen. This is in North Philly. And, you know, in the 70s and he was a kid out there trying to raise himself and got somehow gotten to the military early. And just grew up,

you know, in a different way. And then it was really, she's always told me it was really a beautiful person

and a great dad. It was just when he got addicted to drugs. He just really turned him into someone different. And he couldn't just, he couldn't win that battle. And, um, yeah, she told me about that. They met and everything. And, um, but it was, it was crazy because even though she went through all that stuff with them, she never said anything bad. And yeah, that was very, very noticeable in your whole story. She's still trying to, uh, hopefully, um, hoping that he could turn it around and not, not, um, ruining your vision

of him until she absolutely couldn't help it. Yeah. Yeah. That says a lot about her for sure. Yeah. And, you know, after she got back on her feet, she was just like, all right, we're going to do chapter now. You know, we're going to move out of this house and I'm going to get back to work and Sun let the big example do not touch no drugs. Don't get into no drinking. Stay away from all of it. Did that do it for you? Uh, yeah. It was always like a warning for sure. And I knew that

I had, um, um, there was a thing in my family where we battle with addiction, you know. And so, I was always weary and I didn't do very much anything. It was really scared straight, you know, all the way up into my 21 when I moved to LA. I hadn't done really much anything. And, and I was in church. So I was scared of everything. I didn't want to go to hell. So I was like, I'm just doing this like, let me just play my dreams. Play my dreams. Be cool. I was like, boomer. And so, yeah, you know,

that helped. But, you know, you get older. You go through life. You got to experience stuff for yourself. But, yeah, she, she's still like that. You know, my mom is, you know, strongest person. But, um, and, you know, it was, um, my mom that when they got together, she found out that he had other kids and everything. And she had two kids, older kids over her own, from another marriage. And my mom was, you know, going through it with every husband she went through. It's so crazy. But, um,

she was big on him, getting all the kids together. So I'm never worried young. She got us all together

Oxnard. And we met everyone in a, like, a big family union. And then when he got put in prison later,

“and I got my 20s, it was my sister from his side that really was like, you should talk to them.”

He's not doing well. He's, he just got our prison, but he's not, his health isn't well. And he really wants to talk to you. And he really wants to kind of make it right. And were you, who you are now or were you still making it? No, I was still making, I was just barely, I mean, I was doing music, but it was, uh, I was, no, nothing was going on for me. And, um, I just got my first, like, shows and started going on tour. And I was, you know, thought I was too busy to talk to him. I didn't

really want to have a relationship, I thought I didn't. I thought I didn't need it. And, um, I was, it was still like that trauma when I seen him, knowing all that stuff, but I'm glad I did into talking to him, because I didn't know that, like, you could be gone through stuff and not even know it,

you know, and when you talk to these, to people that, you, you feel like your parents were always your

parents and they, they don't, they weren't adults and having to go through life, just like how you have to go through life. And so, um, I got to talk to him and he told me how proud he was in me and how he wanted to be a singer too. And I learned that he was like, on the gong show and they did, they were auditioning and had a group and he was, he wanted, he had big dreams too. Okay, so fun fact, Kelly is always love reselling stuff online, whether it's furniture, clothing,

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and everything I've been called moody, and there's a lot behind the smile. And I did it every recently with a rapper named Nori who pointed this out. He said, usually if people like that, that, you know, they have that smile and they've been through all this crazy stuff, they

“trying to protect their peace. And I think that's probably what it was. Me having this, how I am now,”

is there's a part of it that's natural, but there's a part of it too that's like, I feel like defense mechanism, a coping mechanism that I had from the things that I've seen and things that I've gone through. And my peace is important for me, the things that that I do, we're kind of like scape is in my field life for what was going on in my reality when I think about me going watching the TV and learning how to dance and then learning how to play drums and moving on to

everything that I'm doing now. It's always that kid that was running to his room and getting away

smile is just, you know, think I'm a mom, got me some braces because the smile was not always

just nice, it was coming action for a deep. So she was like, we got to get a grip on it. Somebody said my teeth are like the temptations everybody wants to see me. So back then it was, it was said, but I got the braces on and it was, it was a long process. It just happened like this. I mean, come out like this. There's a whole process of roadshelting like that. You probably had the retainers, they were like, we're going to work on it. They're going to work on it. They're going to work on it. They're all that.

I have all that. I have a lot of stuff. I have a head here. I was like, I was for a top of your story. I was just head here. Just hold on. I said, got a good job. I'm hanging. And you were a chubby little dude. Yeah, I was a hefty critter.

You were eating your weight. I was eating. I was eating because I'm an happy.

Yeah, that was it for Mom. Worked so much so she was great. No, she knows how to cook. She can compare him, but she now times. She just be like, here's 20 bucks figured out. I mean, we go order some pizza

“and talk a bell and man, that's how I was doing. I didn't have good eating habits for so long. I didn't”

know I didn't have good eating. Just how I grew up, cut the noodles and top-riding everything. And yeah, it was because of house. And then, yeah, when I after my senior year, I was like, screw this. I'm still a virgin. I'm going to be fly. I'm going to fly. I'm going to fly. I'm going to fly. I'm going to fly. I'm going to fly. I'm going to fly. I'm going to fly. I put that snare drum down. It's definitely going to get me a drum. Work. Yeah. But your mom is sounds incredible. I mean, because it's like, you know,

she also was taking care of your step brothers and sisters like they were her own. Absolutely.

Even through all that she went through with your father, right? And never treated them differently. You know,

it's like you all were all one family and for her to be able to hold it together like that through all that she was dealing with. But she had some tough times. And I'm sure that had a lot to do. Well, let me not put words in your mouth, but talk about what your mom went through and how that affected. Because you guys were on the up swing with her business. She was into strawberries. Can you talk about that? Yeah, my mom has strawberry company in Oxnard. And, you know, we went from after my post went to prison. We were in,

you know, apartments. And every year, the business got better. And by the time I was in a senior high school, we were in a big mansion. And we were used to always like changing, you know, different houses and everything. But we were doing good. And, and, um, again, I didn't, my mom, she kept from a, you know, she, you know, she thought kids business was kids business. And she was going to work. And we didn't need to know everything. And, um, I remember just like having everything I had

on studio. My sister, my two older sisters, they were married, but she was taking care of them as well. And everything was on the ups. And, uh, I got called into the Prince was office one day. And my principal just slid the newspaper to me and was my mom on the front cover. She had been arrested. And my step-pops was in cuffs too. And they had been both in arrested. And I was just like, what the hell is going on? He's like, you know what's going on? I was like, no, then my,

my brother-in-law called me and he's like, yo, they got mom, they've, they've been building the case on them for years. And, um, they got her for like 75 counts, you know, security fraud and all these different things. Um, and I was just in shock. And the whole school was looking at me like,

“mm, that's how you got that house. And I was like, you know, it was like, again, only blackhead in”

the school. And, um, it was just like, damn, it was messed up. And, um, everything just turned upside down. And, you know, so, by my pops being in prison, my, my uncle, now my mom and the stats pops, was just like, nonstop. And, um, what did you guys go after? Because she had, she went to prison. And she was sentenced. Yeah. So, she was, she was actually in county for like a year and a half. We were trying to figure out how to get her a lawyer and see if we can fight it and all this stuff.

And she was like, I don't want to fight it. We couldn't get up. She was like, we're not, if we can't get a great lawyer, I just going to do my time. I know what I did. I know they're trying to put me under the prison. So, I'm just going to do a plea. Do what I, my time, and I'll be out. You should get a job brand in because your sister is going to come and watch a little sister. And as soon as you can work,

“you should figure out something. I know you want to do your music, but do that as well. But you should”

get out the house and be a man and go and um, lighten the load. How old were you? I was 17. Yeah. So, I, uh, what did that feel like? I mean, what did that feel like to your 17 year old soul to have your world turned upside down and then be told, you got to, you got to figure it out. Yeah.

like she was in prison and like, you know, she was not a violent person, the sweetest person. No

“criminal record. So, I was just always so worried like what's going on in there with her and I”

hope she's okay and um, and then on the other hand, she was just so positive and optimistic and strong that it made me want to get my stuff together and just keep going and um, she was very just like, yeah, man, I'm going to be all right. You know, um, I'm worried about you guys more so like you guys, you know, do what you guys have to do. Don't worry about me. And so, um, and at the same time, I thought I was going to be like sign by then. Like before that, I was making mixed taste. I was

DJing. I had my own like demo that I was selling that school. I couldn't know if I tell me I wasn't going to be right out of high school like sign of Jay-Z, you know, and, um, it was like that big record scratch. Yeah. So, there was still a part of me like, okay, I'm still going to try to do this, but my world's upside down and I had to move out and all this stuff. So, right after I graduated high school somehow. And I was like, I'm going to, I'm going to go to LA.

I'm going to make the move. I'm going to try to do my thing and I'm going to take some meetings. I had a manager at the time that was taking me around. And my two other sisters were taking care of my little sister. And I pretty much was off into the world after there. And I did a bunch of stuff. I went to Atlanta and, you know, it was trying to get a record deal. Got every door closed on me and got a rude awakening that, you know, yeah, this is cool, but can you do more

something like this? And we don't, we don't get it. Like, you want to wrap you for saying, what do you, you know, what were you doing then? I was doing a lot of everything. I had, I had a little demo that I was taking around and I was wrapping, I was singing, I made all the beats. I was playing drums. And back then it was, it was a lot of emulating. And so I was back in, in Oxnard and I was, my sister lived in Northridge and I was like, okay, well, let me try to live with you and that's kind of LA.

So, where she was like, you're sleeping on the couch, you want? But if you live here, you want to help one of these bills. And so, um, I tried to do stuff and it wasn't happening so then I had to

get a job and my, one of my first jobs was working at Ralph's grocery with my brother-in-law and

I was bagging groceries and pushing in carts. And I was writing songs still. I was still writing songs. What was your look then? My look? Yeah. Yeah. I was like, look, very regular, regular, regular, regular. I know what it was. I was very anti, after I got, um, two to spit out, a great anti hip hop, very anti. I'm like, I'm going, I'm going complete hipster. I don't listen to that, I listen to Beck, I listen to Radiohead, co-play. All I have specks, black frames,

“skinny jeans, buttonups with the, what'd you do with your hair? What were you done with it by then?”

It was a little part of my hair. No, you don't like the little face line up, netting, very just natural, natural, natural, natural. Did you have an accent? Did you play around with that a little bit? You did, you did it. Oh, you listen to them. Oh, it sounds like you were not from Wales. Like, where are you getting this from? Yeah. Was your crew? Who were the people that you were, were you working too much? That's a hairline crew. That's a crew. Shout out to Benji and

you Leo's my crew from my high school. And I had a few people that, you know, that were still, I was building still with it. Did you guys do some stuff together? They didn't want to you friends? That's a different one. This before actually met my crew that I am hanging out, because I eventually made my way to music school. But I had a few people that, that I knew from high school that were, you know, taking me on, letting me live in their garage and different stuff

when I was still kind of doing music, but I was working jobs because I couldn't make my need to know. So how did you get, how did you figure out, okay, this is going to be the lane I'm going to be in. Now, style-wise. Wow, it took a lot, man. It took a lot of just making a lot of different music.

I was playing for a lot of people when I finally got to LA. I did a lot of like,

you know, putting bands together for other artists. And I would see how they do stuff. And everybody was like, you're a great drummer. So I played behind a lot of different people coming up. And some of them were really talented and some of them were weren't. And I picked up a lot of different stuff from different people. And eventually, I got to a point where I met this guy and he told me he's like, you know, you're really talented, but you don't have any work ethic.

“And I think that because you're so multi-faceted, talented, it's kind of working against you.”

Because look at all the things you're doing. And this is, you know, I was getting close to 30 at this point. And I thought I was going to be young forever. And at this point, I have my little my son, work on you. You can probably do something. You get a whiteboard, start figuring out how you

draw from there and simplify your life. And he brought up your great husband's quote where he said, you know, I don't need a couple suits. And I simplify my life. I don't want to worry about

“what I'm going to wear a day. So I can make better decisions. And so that's what I have to do.”

Dude, say that. Showed it. He still does that. We need to get him that jacket. You're right. Right. It's like you can unciplify a little bit. I see him. I know you're flagged. Don't say that. He's just going and just impacts it as I'm

fly. I'm going to hear that for the rest of the year. It was those words. Finally, he said,

and if you do it, if you, I was like, I'm going to do it. I got to pay rent. I'm going to figure out how I'm going to do these. I'll pay rent. I'll about that. If you just sit in this room. And who was this? This was a man tried the time. His name is Brian Lee. Okay. Yeah, he's going to run with him. That's what I'm talking about. Hey, Lee. Take me. Take this little clip. You'll have a documentary. See you at the next week. See her with a bomb. I'm not saying that. Is that Brian Lee?

Brian Lee. Let's set me that room. He's out. I'll get the little computer. I was like, but I need all this. He's like, no, you're going to get just this little computer, Mac many. Get your little mini board. And you're going to figure out how to record yourself. You're going to, you're going to see here. You're going to make a bunch of songs. Figure out your sound and just do it. And it was in that room that I went from being breezy. Load joy to Anderson Pat. See,

“that's what I want you to say. You were breezy. Love joy. We're that joy. What does that mean?”

That means to be on that. You're not talking about it. I got you. I got the little computer. He's not the one. It's like you, too. See, I see. She's back because she knows that DJ college. Oh, yeah, great, great, great. Just like breezy. Love joy, great. Man, we would have been

killing back in a day. Tough life, scared to work. Dude, that's incredible. Yeah. Oh,

head and a young guy. That's right. There's still time. There's something to it. Still time to work. I wasn't getting a word. I wasn't. Yeah. Um, but really loved you. I mean, okay. Well, there's the story. I used to tell people there. There's a real story about how I got breezy. Well, I used to tell people because I'm a queer, you know, I'm an air sign. I'm going with the wind with wind blows. I'm breezy. I'm easy breezy. Yeah. And the love joy is like something you need more of.

But the real story is I was passing a lot as a kid. I was just a little child. I was just a little child. I became part and all around the room in my brother. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like a gust of wind with it. That's what we're going to go with. So that was that for you got your diet to get a good. That's right. Exactly. That's our new fast food. That's that. That's yeah. That's how it was in the green. Wasn't in the green. Yeah. So I switched it up and yeah, Brian was like, what's a

breezy love joy look like breezy love joy was Chevy. I mean, no, no, you know, you know, Reese loved joy went went through that transformation too. So he had like dread hoc.

He was like, you know, after the transformation, I was working out a lot. So I was always in like a

cutoff tea and real rock image and still wrapping. What's the wrapping about what I was doing all the time. What was breezy about what was breezy about about, you know, being in the streets of Venice and all right, you know, I was like, I was going to park. I was going to that music college. So I have been exposed to a lot of different relationships and I was like a crueler too. I was playing piano. So I was making songs about Jim a girl's best friend and I don't want to be alone. I'm

all with you. I was like one of the breezy love joy breezy crazy. Oh my god, talk about it. You still have to go lucky, but he was really trying to find his, his sound. He didn't really

“have one sound or even one unique tone. And that's what breezy was at. And I remember Brian was like,”

you guys change that name. That's, that's the last thing we got to do now. You didn't did everything over. You know, we got to change that name. And I was like, what you talking about? I got 200 followers on my space. My name's name stays. I don't work for that. He was like, just like, this name stays. Yeah. Yeah. And he said, you really got to meet Dr. Dre one day and tell me your name is breezy love Jay. And I was like, you got to point. He got to point. So he was like,

you should go by your real name. Just go by Brandon Anderson. I was like, Brandon, brand kidding me. Well, Brandon is Brandon. I was like, okay. So we love Brandon. Brandon's a mother. My mom loves it. Brandon, Pock Anderson. So that's my full name. And so we did a little, you know, jigsaw, and we went with Anderson, Anderson pack. And I was like, well, it's pronounced Pock. And he said, not say Pock because they won't know if it's a group or a band. And people will argue if it's

Pock or Pock. And it'll make you the talk of the town. So that was intention. Yeah. Yeah.

I was, you know, down near 30 years old. And I felt like I had been overlooked for so many years. I was, I felt like, you know, I succumb myself the most underrated elevated. Like when we play in the band and everybody would be making it. And we just, I felt like, you know, we got ignored a lot. And I put the dot because I said, you know what, when I make it, I want to make people put that dot. They're going to have to pay attention because they didn't pay attention to me for so long. And now they

“got to remember to put that dot. So it's always a period. And period is a period. It's right.”

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What was the first break? The first real where you were like, "I'm in!"

“When I got the call to work with Dr. Dre, that was a big break. And how did he hear about you?”

What was precipitated that? So I had a couple songs that were circulating at the time that was big in the streets. This before I like Spotify was a really big thing. It was really just about sound cloud and reverberation and stuff like that. Can you come a few bars? What did it sound like? What was the song? Can I say the song? Oh yeah, oh yeah. It's his song. It was a song called Swade. And the song simply goes, "If I call you a bitch, it's 'cause you're my bitch."

And as long as no one else call you a bitch, then it won't be no problems. Now if I call you a treat, it's 'cause you paid rent. And as long as you don't call at the six, then it won't be no problems. Now rock with me now. Yeah. Oh, you make, could you say that? Yes. Oh, yes. No, absolutely. That can't. So that's all right. So that's all. That didn't happen to me. That did it. Yeah, well, it was, yeah, I recorded that song and it was moving around. People knew about it and, you know,

and so when they said Dre wanted to hit me up, I was low-ship because that's like the final boss. I grew up in the West Coast and nothing's been in the trade. Yeah. And so there was a little bit of shook and also a little bit like so savage, I was like, I ain't going to that session. Oh, yeah. That they're going to try to make me some mom not. And who knows, he ain't putting on no out of no time soon. I'm working on my stuff and this and that. And really you were afraid that

you might fail. Looking back on it, yeah. Yeah. I don't, you know, Dre's known for, you know, care who you are. What hype, you know, if you don't like it, you don't like it. And so they big my new manager at the time, he goes like, please go and, you know, Adrian Miller, shout out to Adrian Miller, say Brian Lee, shout out to Adrian Miller. Yeah. He was like, come on, man, show up.

This is do it. And I show up and first person I meet was Dr. Dre and him and the DLC and they

“it was like, hey man, we heard a lot about you, you know, that's what's up. Cool. And then they”

would go off. They was watching the playoffs and they ushered me into the studio and I met these two writers, King Mas and J.T. And they were like, we love your song sweet. Like, we love it. We've been playing it nonstop and we want you to help on this Dr. Dre album. It's top secret. No one knows about it. Don't tell anyone that. Cool. So they played me some music on my great. Let's start working and they say, hold up. Before we play this, we want to play your song sweet

for Dre. And I was like, oh, no, he hasn't heard it yet. Let's get some music. Let's just don't. I'm in here. We don't. We don't have to. It doesn't like it. It's like just leave it. Yeah, it's all good. That would be. Yeah, actually, you thought that's why you were here. Yeah, that's why you were here. Yeah, that's why you were here. Yeah, that's why you were here. Yeah,

“that's why you were here. Yeah, that's why you were here. Yeah, that's why you were here. Yeah,”

that's why you were here. Yeah, man. Yeah. And they were like, we want to play up a dress. So I was nervous and he came in there and they threw on the record and I was like, I didn't know where to look. I was just looking at the floor. I was looking at his feet. That's where I realized like, oh, Drake was the same shoes every day. My Air Force ones. All right. It's like chat. Got chat. No, it's simple fly your life. Okay. Got it. So you play in the music. I mean, he cranked it.

You know, he playing, cranked it up. They blasting it. And I look up and he's like, I played out again. I'm going to get a P. And what should I call you? A P. We're going to call you a P. Play to gay. You didn't. You didn't. You're going to play a period. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's an A period. That's a. That's a. Yeah. No. What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? Yeah. Yeah. He just grabbed that and kicked you. Yeah. Right. That was right. I played a gay. That's gay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's work. It's too much telling and building.

And he just threw on the mic. Oh. On the mic started doing stuff. And boom. Like he always back every day.

Every day he hit me up to work on stuff. And they told me his top secret. Don't tell anybody about this. I told everybody. I told my cousin. Man, I was on everybody. Man, I'm a. I'm a. I'm on. I'm a drink. Don't talk to me. Don't. I don't like your tone, bro. I'm. I'm working with drinking. I got time for that foolishness. Oh, no. Yeah. So I was like, oh, it's hype. That's when I was like, oh, man, this, this is good. Because before that, man, it was, it was, it was tough. I was making

And I was full of time artists. Yeah. And so it was tough. And I had a family. When that moment came,

“I was like, wow. And then he put out an album. He put, he, I woke up and he, he had dropped it.”

It surprised how I'm going to call Compton. And I was all over the album. It was like on six tracks. It was called me six track pack. Yeah. And then he had a movie straight out of Compton. Yeah. And then he did the beat still. And Dre was popping. And so I was like, wow. And I was like, well, shoot. Guess I should put out something now. And it was cool because he was so busy doing this thing that he didn't sign me right away. So I got, I was working on an album called Malibu.

And I had it like halfway done. But now like people were looking. So I was like hitting up producers. That, you know, this album was like, my dream album that I had been holding on to these songs

for a while. And I didn't want to, I was like, when this comes out, I want people to be able to hear it.

And now like I had a lot of like leverage. And people were, I had a lot of eyes on me. So I was hitting up people like knife wonder and Matt live and high tech. And these people were helping me complete the album now. And I was getting these features. And Dre was still doing this thing. So I got to put it out

“independently. And you know, now I own the master's album. That was probably the best thing that happened.”

It was like, how far to it is that he was too busy. Yeah. And I was trying to, you know, we're trying to break our next, everyone was knocking down my door now, trying to sign before I couldn't buy a deal. And everyone was like, yeah, we're going to sign you now. And I was like, if I do sign anything, I'm going to sign a Dre whenever it comes back around. And I was on tour after that for years. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't see it. How did you find anterior tour? So it was a lot of things

that happened. We started very, after Malibu came out, it started circulating. And I got a Grammy nom for best new artists, different things like that. And people were seeing that, oh, he's not like just a rapper like this, he could play. He has a band. So we started getting festival offers to play at festivals and stuff. And so, you know, money started, the rate started getting better. And then we got on a show called Empire Tiny Des. Oh, I love you on Tiny Desk. That was. And that really

opened it up. People started seeing wow. And I didn't know that like playing drums and being the front man was going to be a big thing. And it was really that kind of like opened everyone's eyes and men. Then we started getting booked for all kinds of gigs. And then our shows were starting

“to get lying around the corner. And so, how did you know how to line up your team?”

So that financially, you would, because they're the story of a lot of artists. Well, I went before that, I was going to be with anybody who could help pay my rent. I was signing anything. And I got out of the manager who made me change my name. He is like, hey, I don't know what's to do now. You're off. But if you ever do make it, you owe me this much. So I learned a little bit, like, oh, nothing to this stuff is free. Like he's all right. Partnership. So he was like,

like, that will make it with rent. Exactly. Like, I pay your rent. You know, you're not paying my rent. Exactly. This is an investment. I want to ROI eventually. I don't know what to do with you now, but you're going to figure out. And so he, he, I gave me a big overseas or how much I owed. And then I was, I had a bunch of music, but I just was in debt and no connections. And so I met another manager.

And he said, hello, young fella. Look, just look at me. Remember the first thing you said. He was like,

just look at me as your personal ATM. And I said, I got this debt. I got my rent. I got a wife. I got a kid. I want to do all this stuff. And he said, great. We're going to get you to deal. I hope you with all that stuff. Just we're going to sign a management agreement, though. And I signed him, new manager, and he put together a financial team in a lawyer, everything. Some of the people I still have to this day. He wasn't perfect, but he was a bridge over travel water. He was a guy that

gave him an opportunity. I didn't have an opportunity. And he was one of the people that got me in front of Dre. And he didn't have all the knowledge of it. But he did teach me certain simple stuff. Like, don't sign your publishing no matter what. And very first thing people want to do is sign their publishing because they don't have a lot of finances. And they need a big check up front. So they signed his publishing deals. And that's, that's your every money that you kids kids stuff.

And there you get locked in for years. So I didn't know what he was talking about. And people up until then, people were trying to get my permission 5,000 here and now I'm like, like, I'm broke. Like, that's my $1,000 we're walking away from that. That's integration. Well, he's like, boy, don't sign that. I'll give you that. He's right. He's just a nursery man. Yeah, he's here. It's like, calm now.

I was just hungry. But yeah, he would do so like that. And like, you know, to this day, I don't know, you know, I haven't, I'm holding onto that. And so yeah, he was, he was the person that got my initial team together. And then I started making money and didn't know where it was going

I never had it. It's like, oh, you knew about the collection. It was all like,

“I mean, I get a card, I'm maxed out and I'm like, all right, onto the next.”

Yeah, and I did a school day, I was crazy. Yeah, he was revismal. And yeah, it was like, I did, when I started making money, it was just like, I just, you know, here, I had a team that he put and in place, but I never was checking to see where it was going and all this stuff, they were just, you know, putting it in places and then God, you know, they were the, my first initial team did do really cool stuff that. So this day, I'm really happy about, you know,

I mean, you were lucky. Very lucky. Yeah. Very lucky. Nobody's sorry. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, I don't know, not that. And I gave everything to them.

But that's true. And I still have it. That's like, I lost the lot. And I had to go through the

growing pain that fire everybody. It was a whole bunch of stuff. But, you know, people artists, I see a lot of these things where it's like, they took me for this and that and all this stuff. But,

“you only, you only do what you love people to do. And there's no reason why I couldn't pick up”

one of these contracts and looked it through and figured it out. And maybe weighted and stuff. But it's not, it's not that I didn't know better. It's just like, I was just trusting and doing what I can. And these people were helping me out of time. And I didn't have anything. And so I needed to help. And they saw something in me when no one saw it. And I think, you know, you get to take the good with the bad time. So, man, do. Then I made Bruno talk about that. How did you meet Bruno? How did you

guys come together? We made, I opened up for him at the 24 Kirit Magic. It was one of my first big, opening tour offers when Malbu had came out. And he took me all over Europe, big arena shows. Your first big arena show. Yeah. Yeah. What was that? What was that like?

It was incredible. Breezy love joy. Yeah. It was crazy. I remember, you know, like,

after one of the shows, because our whole thing was like, yeah, we got to make it so that, you know, he messed up, we have an us open. We've got to steal some fans. We're going to kill any. Now, that was our whole mentality and Bruno has that mentality too. But when you come from like,

“you don't want to come on the stage after we go. You know, like, that's what we want to kill”

the stage and give people the best show possible. We don't care who's coming after. And that's how we went and I remember when they we played and like, we had a stand in novations and I was like, yeah, we killed that. The next day they said, Bruno wants to talk to you. That's our whole shape. I was like, you know, see the letter he's like, meet me for dinner tonight. We're going to talk. And I'm like, oh, damn, I'm talking to my band. I'm like, shit, I hope we didn't kill it too hard.

Bruno wants to be my beat. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. And um, we go to this restaurant. It's like at the top floor. He and Eric smoking the cigarette inside the restaurant. That's why I knew. I was like, oh, there's different levels of famous. It's like, are you not? It's not smoking. It's not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he's like, I like you. You did great. You know, that was real cute. You say, see, to this, I want you to come on the rest of the tour with me.

You know, I'm going to do, we got San Antonio. We got, we got New York going to come on the American League. And then, you know, my crazy self, I'm like, well, okay, but I need a little more money. You know, because I got the band. And this is not, he's like, you know, the tour sold out. And I said, okay. So I mean, I don't need you to do this. So you don't take it or leave it, buddy. I'm going to do the light because I need you.

I'm right. It's actually a day. Oh, you've got a point. You got a point there. You're going to learn business quit. Yeah. All right. I'll be back over here now. And that was a big decision because, you know, at that point, I had Malibu and then Dre was like, hey, man, when you're going to come back and make your next album. And I was like, oh, wow, that's right. I did just make another album this week. And you know, and I had been on the road, nonstop.

And I, and if I would have kept going with him, I would have him. He's just coming off that 24 carry. And I just, yeah. Yeah. So it's like, it's easy to, to, you know, get caught up in that where you can be on the road for a long time. And you forget or doing different things because it's like, it's fun or because it's like lucrative and stuff. And then you forget like, okay, well, I got a still got stuff over here. Also had a family. And also had different things going on. So I had to

make a decision. It was tough one to be like, okay, this, I'm going to leave the tour. I'm going to go work on my album, work on my stuff. Go back, be with the family. And, and, you know, tapping on my own artistry as, as fun as it is to open up. I don't want, I didn't want to get stuck in

Good luck. It's like, tour still so now. Still so now. Yeah. You know, I come to see those first things. And so they, we kept in touch. And we made some music. And it was just like, right away, we hit it off. I didn't, I hadn't met anybody that was that talented. It was my age. And that could make hits and was a mega star. You know, like, it was, it was, I worked with

a lot of people that were older or maybe younger. And I was always like, felt like the lone

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Eight years old and had a little baby. You've been on the road since 16th or 16th before that. That was my life, bread and butter was put some out going to road from months. You come home and life still goes on without you. Daddy's home. They can't run into you and they come at it. Not long time no see. Nobody's saving chicken in the market. The big piece of chicken more. Everyone's like on iPad. If I wasn't going to have a lot of time, it was very important

about what you do with the time and being present. I know Daddy's working and all these things cost. I'll do all of a sudden while I'm here, I want to be present. I was really what quarantine did for me. I got to be present. I created a bond with my son. I forgot what he was into. He's like, "I like YouTube. I won't be YouTuber. I'm like, okay, what's that?" I'm like Kpop. I'm like Kpop.

“Would you know about two pop? Boy? BTS was not about BTS. How long I've been away?”

What thing is going on? I've got to rectify some things. Yeah, so then I have to tap

when I was a kid and making funny skits with my sisters and I used the love, editing and filming

and making home videos. It brought me back to doing that. I became one of it to be a YouTuber more than him by the end of it. Come on, son. Let's do this. He realized how funny he was and he had been in dance classes forever. So he was like a little dance machine and I'm like, "Wow,

“this is 2.0. That's more handsome than he has by the way." Is he kind of energy?”

Yeah, you do? Oh, my god. What's that? He's like in the house with YouTube? Well, he's, you know, he's a satch and I'm a queries. So I don't know. You all can do the research on that. That's not really a joke. We already know this. We're already talking about this. But it's a lot of just a staring at you. You're like, "All right." Go ahead, what's your bad self? All right. I see you over there. You know, I used to do a little,

so he's really much like, "I see you doing that. I'm going to have my own thing." And so I kind of like you. Yeah. Yeah, very much so. And his mom. And, you know, and he's got the Korean side too. His mom is full Korean and he's got a different she musical. She's musical. She sings, plays keys, and everything. All right. So the K-pops, it's in your story. Yeah. Not fully, fully, fully, fully, fully, fully. Yeah. Yeah. That was,

while I was like, "Son, I'm going to write a script." Like, this could be something. What if I didn't know

“how to say that in COVID? Yeah. Yeah, I was. But we're talking about K-pops. Yeah, my mom and your”

the movie. Yeah. I'm a feature film. And I knew I wanted to, because at that point, I saw that,

okay, two-arrange stop. I love music. It's always been be there. But that's when I realized like,

"Oh, man, you know, different, I could tell different stories and different different mediums." And it might take a while for me to learn a new medium. But that's the joy of the whole process. You know, I love that. This was your first script. Yeah. Yep. So you taught yourself how to do it. Yeah. So I had a co-writer. Okay. I had to come with the idea first and, you know, what if I didn't know how to say? And that son could be the next K-pop star. And I come into his life.

And I'm teaching him about his black culture. And he's teaching me about the Korean side. Because I didn't know anything about my Korean side. So I met his mom and then I was reintroduced. So I had all these unique experiences that I could pull from and put him in this movie that I didn't think anybody had really done before. Like, especially Asians and black people were like,

"That was real. Like, we got rush hour, you know, and that's about it." So I was like, "It could be cool."

And then I didn't want it to be, I know I had a lot of different things that I could pull from and trauma and different things, racism things that we all been through. But I wanted to kind of pull from the things that helped me cope with all those things, like the love, the music, the fun, the comedy. And I felt like there wasn't a lot of movies that were bringing families together where you saw families on the screen. It was family comedy. No one dies. No it was like different things.

Mike kind of. Right. Very uplifting. Yes. Yes. I mean, yeah. And my mom too. She's like, "Brandy, you know what? This is like a hallmark movie." I was like, "Mom. Oh, don't say bad. You mean the sun down? No, it's hallmark. This is ready for hallmark." I was like, "All right. But I understood what she's saying. It's like, you know, sometimes you want to escapeism of knowing that everything's going to be all right. And you know, that doesn't mean you can't put

different things in there. But it's beautiful when you come. It's really hard to do those kind of movies." So, yeah, that was the genesis of it. And I started doing the process. And I met with my buddy, don't found it. Because once I knew I wanted to direct everything, people didn't want me to do it. And I wanted to be in it. And I wanted my son to be in it. And they were like, "Okay. That's a lot. It's very ambitious." Like, why don't we give it to somebody, give it to this one.

I don't want nobody around my son. Don't you know who I am? Come on now. Formerly breezy love joy and really. I do hard. Exactly. Yeah, so I eventually got my boy, don't found it. Who was one of my best friends that I met coming up in LA, who started music, but was making the venture into movies, was working with this company, stampede, and the ST. And he said, "Bring it to them. They're taking chances on, you know,

different stories." And I pitched them the idea and they said, "Yeah, cool. We'll give you some money to do it." And I was shocked. I was like, "Whoa, all right. Cool." And they were like, "You want to direct it, right?" I was like, "Yeah." And you want to write it. And I didn't know how to write a script. And so I was like, "Maybe I need a, I would love to have a co-writer, actually, because I need, just to show me structure or whatever. And they bless me with this really young co-writer,

K-lamazon, this young black writer, who was a military brat, and who also happened to be a K-pop fanatic. So she was like, right when God in there and was just in here just like this and like so she's like, "All right. This is K-pop 101. This is movie structure 101." She graduated from,

“you know, film school and everything. And I think it worked out because it was those two worlds”

and she taught me structure and she taught me the idea that I had gained all these layers. Because it wasn't as deep as him being on a show and all these different things. And I learned

this whole thing about this person, is this person and all this thing. And again, it was making me think of groups that I came up with. And so I was like, this is going to be cool opportunity to show like how things relate and how much in common things have and how yes, people will take and pull from different things and have their own interpretation. But that's been going on for years. My favorite scene in the movie is when you're out with, I shouldn't say, when pop's is out

with his son and they go by the record store. And he starts pulling out the albums. It's explaining this is what, you know, trying to teach his son some soul and understand what it means.

That was a bit of a beautifully done thing. You know, and it was that the first time you acted?

Yeah, I mean, I've done different things, but this is the first, I mean, you were really good in it. I mean, funny and, you know, lit up the screen. Really, truly, you know, I mean, I was laughing out loud watching the movie really sweet and your son. I mean, so now your son is, you said his man. Yeah, I really took forever. He was like eight years old. He was obsessed with K-pop. And then by the time we got to shoot, I got all the money and stuff. He was like 11 years old.

And he's like, man, oh, my K-pop no more. I was slipping out. I'm like, oh, contractually son,

“here's the thing, I need this to work. We're doing it. Oh, a lot of money. So he was like, all right,”

I guess, you know, he's going into his teens and I had to adjust things for him, but he was like,

I'm going to do your solid dad. You seem really into it. I'm like, thank you to that son. Let's do this.

Thank you. This is about your tuition and your life. This was going to mean more than your later. And so yeah, and it was cool because like the whole thing was like, I really loved being on set with him and being able to kick with you son and like see him grow and we're working together. And we're creating a bond, but we also have Beyonce really early and I'm seeing him learn about how to be learned the language of being on set, you know, being on his mark. And he's taking

his acting class of serious and learning his lines and getting me on my game. And it was just so much fun. And you know, at the end of it, I was like, it was really surprising because like, I didn't know how he was going to take it. And I could see him having a lot of fun. Mind you before this, he was in homeschool all his life. And now he's like around the other kids and adults. And I've seen him blossom socially and everything. And I'm like, okay, I have a little

acting bud. I can't pop the tune. And I'm like, what you think son, what you do to get in

“how you feel he's like, it was great. I think we had a lot of core memories. I think you know,”

you have a lot of fun. But I would just like to be a kid. It's not my passion. And yeah, that's pretty much true. Leave it there. That's pretty much true. Dang. He's like, but it does depend on the script. Yeah. So. And that's cool. I was fine with that. And now he's going to school. He's now he's like, it's funny when you're like back off. And I'm thinking to do a thing the wrong way. And now he's playing guitar. He's playing bass, making beats. And I'm

right back in his face. Like, all right. Yeah, you're wrong now. It's got to do the next album. It's got to be their idea. It does. Yeah. How's your mom doing? My mom is doing great. Yeah. His narrowed it down to one boyfriend now. Okay. She got she's vegan. Okay. And off every restaurant we go to she is a Dodger fanatic. Oh, my god. She got me into the Dodgers. So now we be all obsessed with the Dodgers. Congratulations. Everyone exactly shout out to Dodgers. She's F1. He's F1 fanatic. He's a

guy for F1 fanatic. Oh, my god. All of it. So I'm broke. Having to get all these passes. Take it. She got to be front row at everything. She's going to be able to go out. She went to yep. The biggest way she went to last fight. She got to feel the sweat. Come on, Bob. Dang. Yeah. So she's loving life. And you know, she's she's out in Atlanta. And you know, sometimes she'll tap in, be a grandma. He'll watch kids. And then she'll be dipping out. She's jet set now. I'm like,

my mom for some reason. She's like, I don't want to go anywhere brand. And I'm just, I don't trust it. The things that people eat. I don't know. I'm like, Mom, why that's stopping you? I'm going anywhere. Really go travel. No, they're doing some foolishness over there with how they do the chicken. You see that for people. You seen that? I'm trusting. I'm scared of that. But now she's traveling. She's going to, she was in. She's just she's

“back in her own boat. No, yeah, yeah, she will. That's what I'm going to piss her clean off to hell with”

the whole country. Yeah, so she's been in a food. She's going to travel. London. Now,

finally go get her to go over across the pond. And yeah, she's dude. She's great. That's my, that's

my dog. That's my best friend. And um, but she did a great job in raising you dude. She really has. And been through a lot of stage strong, you know. And I like to think that that's also, you know,

has taught you a lot of it. And you can see it. It's spilling out on this table.

Thank you. Shout out to Mama. Yeah, shout out to my forget Brian Lee. Yeah, Mama. Mama. You got out from the Obama's in the Robinson. That one. Yeah. Yeah. We see you. Mama. Yeah. Yeah. Um, you want to do the listener question. Yeah, let's let's hear from Amanda in Boston. Hi, my name is Amanda and I'm from Massachusetts. My husband and I has started to discuss growing our family. As a teacher in future parent, I often grapple with the idea

of building resilience in young people. I had a fairly unstable childhood. My father battled alcoholism and actively worked on his recovery while my mother worked long hours trying to make ends me. Because of this environment, I was forced to develop resilience and grit. I had to learn to guide myself and power through uncomfortable feelings without the guidance of my parents. I find myself being able to handle adversity in adulthood because of this learned resilience.

“I truly believe that I have my child put in struggles to think for this. As I think about”

raising independent and resilient future adults, I worry that I won't be able to provide my children with opportunities to naturally build this resilience. How do we balance this idea of giving children a predictable and loving home? Well, also allowing them to naturally build resilience. I want to give my future children everything I did not have, but this can become a slippery slope. Thank you so much for your time. Okay. My man to ask, it's getting an answer from Mr.

Resilience himself. Slowly and freely. Yeah. You got, can't be afraid to let them go through their own struggles. Sometimes like, you know, especially, my kid, you remember, oh, this one, you remember, it's like the little apartment, you know,

and me going for us, taking the blessing. When we first got our place, we first got a car,

and he still remembers I'm a little one. He just born in first class. He's like, he's born, you know, after we had this vessel, you know, sometimes I take him through coach. So I'm going, like, you're going to sit back there and stop seeing that front, y'all figure it out. Hey, you know, work it way up like, I'm taking down Skirro, let him see, like, this could be you now,

“that car. But what, but you want to be tough, right? Go ahead. That's what's going to get you.”

Get your ass in the car. Let's get out of here. Let's see. Yeah. That's good. That's good stuff. He's got to do it. And now I wanted to protect him so much. I want to give him the life I didn't have all this stuff. And I realized like all this stuff that I went through, made me mean. And it wasn't like, it wasn't, I don't know how it would have been. If, you know, the tables are turning and I got to live in the lap of luxury and my mom and everything worked out. I might have

been still a chubby little spoiled brat, you know, and I know how to treat people and all this stuff. Right. And so, you know, the kids have to go through their own trauma, their own set of different things in order, and you have to trust that the things that you install, install to them, it's going to stay with them when they go out into the world. And how my son is going to school now, he's made his debut and he was homeschool forever. I didn't want to put him in school. I didn't

trust nobody. And when it's, I was like, not, we're going to keep him here. And, you know, he was like, please dad, I want to go to school. It's like, I want to get out of my cousin. It's like, you know, it was going to watch a little brother in the break. It's like, not my job. Yeah, it's not my job. So now he's out. And, you know, I trust that, you know, I worry sometimes by a trust that the things that he learned in the house and the way we raise them, he's out there being a good representation.

And he's going to learn, you know, on his own. And you have to, you have to let him do that. And, you know, he's around other people and getting influenced in learning different things. And I'm

“excited for him. But I think that that's what you have to do. You have to trust that you raise them”

right and that you install a lot of those things, but it can't be afraid to let them go out and adventure. And bump they head sometimes and get back up and it's a part of it. Yeah, that's good. That's a good point. You know, I think that sometimes parents, they have to get out of the way. You know, and I would say, man, to make sure that you aren't parenting out of fear or out of

your own motives, right? Our mom was really good at that. She always used to say, I can't let my

own fears get in the way of your growth. And when, uh, and the perfect example was when I've got to chance to go out of town for the first time to a tournament. That's about a basketball tournament. My mom was scared to death. And I was going to Kansas City in a van with a bunch of guys and some coaches. And I didn't realize it until I was she'd never told me this until I was grown. But she was absolutely afraid the whole time I was gone. And she just ate that fear and let

me experience it. And I tell you it's just like what you're saying. It's it's not doing the homework,

So you see it in coaching online. I see it so much now in coaching kids that these parents are

trying to curate the perfect childhood for them. And that's not sports. It's not going to be perfect. You're not going to go undefeated. You're not going to ever not miss a shot. You're not going to ever run into a kid who's better than you are. And you're going to lose a lot. You are going to lose. You are going to at some point in life. Somebody is going to be mean to you. Yeah. You're going to, you know, you're going to be disappointed. Something's not going to work out.

“That we've all experienced that. Yes. So we got to prepare kids for that. That's what”

resilience is. And you don't have to be flat broke to do it. You know, you don't have to have extinuating circumstances to do it. But you do have to let go throughout their childhood. And Amanda, your kids will still love you. That's the thing. They'll still love you. That is the crazy thing about it. And for a minute, you have to not care whether they like you or not. I mean, that's kind of, that's kind of the secret to parenting. You know, you got to be able to be like,

you got to outlast. I don't really care. You got to outlast. If you like me, that's not my role in your life. You know, my favorite saying that my daughter say, I say, I say this all the time. I'm

not wanting your little friends. I was just not, and I never felt like I needed to be. Oh,

you met, oh, you met, you got rid. Exactly. Oh, oh, so who's going to be mad or longer? It's like, who's not? Oh, you're not speaking to me. Right. It's like great. I won't speak to you. Right. And guess who always wants. It's like, you go need to speak to me before I could not speak to you for years. Wow. And my life wouldn't stay rough, man. She wrote, she wrote, she wrote, that's right. She stays high. It's not what our kids. It's like, oh, I was going,

let me show you love. Wow. And that would build resilience. It's a little resilient thing. They're never coming on. Never. Oh, my god. Not of our kids.

“They're doing with us. Actually, no. That's why I'm telling you. He's the young girl, but that's what”

you're saying. You're son now. He's like, please. Yeah. No. No. It don't, I don't know. It may

change, but, you know, especially when your parents are, you know, he's going to try to create as much distance between you and him. Yeah. What are the opposite of the drums? Well, he's, yeah, he's doing guitar. And I can't play it. And I can't play it. I just be like, I'm not playing it. So, you know, that's what I'm doing. He's just killing it. So, yeah. Well, hopefully that helps. Amanda, you know, bigger stuff out. Anything on the music front

coming coming our way? Yeah. I got some, I have a soundtrack that's going to accompany the movie where I'm doing some cool K-pop collabs and also like R&B and reaching back to different groups that I came up with, like, her phone and fire and different stuff. I'm excited about this, the soundtrack. Like Anderson Pack plays real music, break a news, bringing real music back. Please keep doing it. Thank you. Don't keep doing what y'all did. Yeah.

And tell us about Andy's. Yes. Actually, can I bring in a, can I give you a gift? Yes. I got this. Yes. Please. Speaking of real music, it's become a hard and harder to find places where you can perform real music where you see people playing instruments. Yeah. Right. Here people, people, you know, having a good time and seeing people dance. And I'm trying to bring that

“back. And that's how I came up in LA. And that was a big part of how we, we made it and made it,”

got our buzz. And I think it's important to have a place where bands can cut their teeth and practice and they can be like an incubation place where that happens. And so I started a club called Andy's. Well, we, yeah. Yes. This is a little, so I got this. I got this. I got the supper club because I got food there. I got an excellent menu. Coming. I love it. Like music every night. Andy's. And I got y'all some Andy Schwag. Let's check it out. This is worth it. That's my, not this is my other venture.

Well, I know you're doing a lot of talking. Okay. You'll be up here. And so Andy's, I started, I started my own mitt with my doctor. He's Harvard graded it. You know what? You look like you need. You could have it. Well, you know, you've been, you've been, you know. You've been, you know, fresh, fresh, fresh.

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>> Thank you for bringing real music back into our lives. Congratulations on the film. Everybody's got to see it. Congratulations on everything.

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