61 - Make Money AND Change Lives | The Truth About Cause Capitalism

Create opportunities where others have failed and push you to build empires where once there was empty space. Let's embark on this journey together and make a difference in this world. Hey guys, welcome to the Impact Podcast with Eddie Wilson. I'm actually live in Guadalajara, Mexico. At one of our sites with our partner Sam Robleson. So I've got Sam as our partner on the podcast today and super excited to have Sam. Sam the podcast is really, it's thousands of people who have asked me to mentor them help them grow.

And I don't have the time to do it. So I built the podcast, you know, a little over a year ago, really to kind of give them information on how to grow and their relationships and their business and their personal and professional life. And so I was trying to bring some level of teaching to them. And so today, I'm going to talk about this concept of cause capitalism. I've done an episode on it before. But cause capitalism to me, and I know that you're actually from here, but you lived in the state you went to college on the state.

So you kind of understand this. Is that cause capitalism? Is this idea that the best product, the best worker, the best person to the market wins? It's where American society, American business wins. But cause capitalism states that if I do succeed in business, that's not the end. That's not the end. It doesn't stop there. That then I have a responsibility back to society back to people back to my belief system to give back.

“So that if I'm blessed, I'm blessed to bless, right? Like I'm blessed to bless others. And that's what this is all about. And so just so you guys know backstory.”

Three and a half years ago, I was convinced by Sam's brother in Iowa to come check this out. And you're actually sitting in one of the beautiful studio that was built here. But three and a half years ago, it was a small building, just a little bit outside of this area that you're seeing right now. And a lot of this was completely undone. This was actually the sky we were looking at.

So when we walked through, there was rebar sticking out of this wall right here. And Sam has just an incredible job building.

But the ecosystem that he's built is one that reflects what I talk about with cause capitalism. So Sam, he has a ministry here, right? So he's a pastor, he has a church, he cares for the people of Guadalajara. And then on top of that, orphanages, feeding centers, food ministries to the poor, children's ministries in the community. Just last night, you guys had four or five groups around the city passing out food baskets, doing community type, give out, give away type stuff. And but then it's the same sustainability side.

And that is is that he's built businesses here. So sewing centers, he has a sewing center, sewing business. He's got a coffee cart that's out in the community.

“He's got a construction company. You've got what else?”

We've got a laundry mat, laundry mat, spa, spa. He's evolving. We got, what else we got? I always, we got, we made shirts, the shirts that we were wearing on the trip.

Screen printing, all that. We have all eight different type of businesses. Eight businesses. And to me, that's the most exciting part is that he's now built a bunch of businesses with young people that have actually grown up right here. That he's helped. He's served. He's taught. And we've taught them everything from matters of faith, the business, the relationship, all the types of things that you, you are learning as well. And they grow here and then they get opportunity. And the opportunity is to excel, to grow.

And I, I oftentimes hear this way. I was at the gallon. This guy was interviewing me. And he said, oh, it's not like you're giving them a fish or teaching a fish. I was like, no, you missed the entire point. I was like, we came in. We dug a pond. I was like, we filled the pond with water. We filled the pond with fish. We taught them how to fill the pond with fish, how to stock the pond, how to fish the pond, how to sell the fish, and how to eat.

“And it's like, it's an entire ecosystem. And to me, that's what most business owners and entrepreneurs in America miss, right? Is that, that they think that success stops with, okay, have enough money in my pocket.”

I can take care of my family. I can pass some money on to my kids as I pass away or my employees, and they really never get the benefit of what we've been able to see here.

That's just way, by way of introduction. And I want you to know a little bit more. So Sam actually went to college in the United States. He actually excelled in sales and business came back to Guadalajara because his heart was here. So if you don't mind, just tell us, like, you know, a minute long kind of journey of like, why did you come back to Guadalajara? Yeah, I went to the United States with the sole purpose of training to be a pastor to come in back and helping my people.

I mean, it is hard to come back. So I excelled in business in sales. We had a great home. We had a great, you know, great cars living great life. And I remember I served at my church in a Mexican and a little Mexican kid came back and I used to pick him up every morning, take him to church. And he just hugged me and told me, thank you for helping me. And that filled my heart, like no business, like nothing in this world can do. And that was God telling me back, get back to purpose. Sure.

And so I went to my pastor and I told him, hey, this is what is going on. What should I do? And he asked me two simple questions, Sam, why did you come to the US to go back and help my people? And then he told me, what are you doing now? I am not doing that. Hey, Tommy, quit your job tomorrow and go to Mexico. That's my advice. Wow.

“And that's what I did. I quit my job the next day, came to Mexico.”

Wow. And you were married at the time? Was married with one child, a one child. Yes. And so that's a big deal.

I mean, obviously, getting married in the United States, your wife is actually from my wife. I was sitting right next to me. Oh, wow. And that when we walk out of the office, she tells me, what are you going to do? And I'm going to quit tomorrow and we're going to go to Mexico.

She was like, OK, I guess we're doing it. His wife is awesome.

And behind anybody that has what Sam has, there's always a strong relationship and support and stuff like that and your wife is awesome and amazing.

So you come to Mexico, tell us kind of the next phase. So like, you know, there's this period of time before I even knew about you got involved with you. Kind of tell us like what that journey was like. Yeah, we, we started checking out so many cities in Mexico. And I prayed God, where would you want me to go?

And it's so hard to pick a place. And in Mexico City, biggest, you know, city in Mexico, there's a lot of need. But I know a lot of pass reference of mine who are there doing great things. Moderate the same thing. But then I came to with a lot of heart.

And I didn't see anything being held. It's number, whether the heart is number one in suicides. Whether the heart is number one in early in the pregnancies. So there is so many things I started driving around. And so girls were 14, 15 already having babies.

Yeah. And their mothers and and I just knew it was here. So we came here. I looked through a piece of property.

I remember we bought our first property, 25,000 dollars.

And it took us almost a year to raise that. And so the first year was just grinding. We bought this piece of property with nothing built on it. And we just put like a little tent and we would have church there. The church started to grow.

And little by little we built that little small building when you came. You know, probably fit 100 people.

“And I thought that's what I was going to do for 10 years.”

The average church hearing with a heart is not big. So I figured I'm going to do that for 10 years. And that was I was just happy to do that. And then I met you. And I tell people, there's a pretty Eddie Wilson and a post Eddie Wilson.

Anything with a heart and I think everybody can see it. And then as soon as you came, we built the studio. And that's when things really explode. This is the actual studio that we're sitting in now. And he kind of had this building kind of half built ready for expansion.

And that was the first thing we built was the studio and girls dorms. Girls dorms which are right behind here. So he already had a church. He already had kind of like a school for the kids. So it would be like more in the US.

It's different. Right. So like a lot of kids here, you know, kind of 15, 16 years old. They're kind of done with school. Yeah. And so the college here, which we would call a college,

really could start at 15, 16, right? Like up to 22 or whatever it is. Yeah. But just try to continue somewhat education. Right.

Just don't get into it. Right. You know. It's just so different. So I show up three and a half years ago or so.

We walked this property. And we began to start having conversations about business.

“Because, you know, I had, I believe that got to put on my heart to get behind”

ministries and get behind people that are making impact in the world and create sustainability, right? Like I don't believe, I believe my gift is not from zero to three. My gift is from three to ten.

And so when I find amazing operators, I find people that have been

good stewards of what they have. It's like that's when I really want to, you know, poor gas on that fire. And that's a lot of what we talked about was, you know, we said, I said, you know, I, what I don't want to do is to give and have the fun things for life.

Yeah. What I want to do is give a seed and then based on its growth, it sustains the growth. And if you don't mind kind of like just talk about that journey. Like, what was that like?

I mean, was that the first time you'd ever heard that? I mean, like, what was that process? I've always been taught.

Sure.

Do you do ministry or you do business?

Yeah. And any in fact, I think that the thought is, if you do business, then you're not in, you're not in to ministry for, with a good heart. Sure. So I remember you talking to me.

And number one, you said something that I will,

“you have to give me a few good lessons that I will never forget.”

One of them was, I told them, how do you know how to invest? You don't know me. You don't like, we just met. Right. And you said, Sam, you got my money after like a few hours we spoke.

Yeah. Why would you help us? And you told me, I don't invest in the horse. I invest in the jockey. And that's finding that operative.

By the way, he's the size of a normal jockey. Yeah, I think he was a short joke. Now that I think about it. But, um, and then you told me that that's it. Okay.

And then you told me, Sam, have you ever thought about making a bigger impact? Or I'm multiplying impact? And I said, what, what do you mean? How could I do that? And you told me, what if money was for expansion, money from the U.S.

was for expansion and not for sustainability? Mm-hmm.

“What if we could build something that I can expand?”

And then you build something that can sustain it. Sure. And I was like, what do you mean? And he says, yeah, like a business. Let's start a business that I can fund.

And then all the funds that come out of that business. Mm-hmm. Feed the kids and train the kids and educate the kids. Then really, we could, you could take off the pressure. Sure.

Of trying to survive every single week. Mm-hmm. You don't have to rely on American help.

If anything ever happens to me, then your kids would always have hope.

And then at the same time you told me, I have a heart for the world. Mm-hmm. I want to help you in Egypt. I want to help in Pakistan. I want to help in India.

And I can do that if I don't find people who think and multiplication. Sure. And I, and I told you, I don't know what, I don't even know where I would start. Mm-hmm. And you said, Sam, if you do it, I'll help you.

Mm-hmm. But I, there was something that just, you know, God connected us to try to, is just trust. And I asked you, have you ever had that feeling when you just like met somebody just known for years? Sure. And you taught me the second biggest lesson on my life.

You said, uh, when you have that, it's because you are lining values. Mm-hmm. And I realized now even more than then, we are lining values so much. Right. Which is, we want to create impact in multiplication.

Mm-hmm. And that is what business is. All right. What's interesting to me, and, you know, for most of people listening to the podcast, they're business people. And most of them are not ministry people, you know?

But it's interesting to me, as I, as I traveled the world, I found that the greatest Ministry leaders had a business mind, right? They thought in multiplication. They thought and sustainability. They thought about building the right foundation so that if their ministry did grow, that they could sustain it.

And it was interesting to me, like, I looked back on and thought, oh, these great ministry leaders are just business men. Yeah. But they're, you know, doing ministry. And, you know, and I definitely, you know, it still resonates today as is that, you know,

how you run your church and your ministry is how a good business owner should run their business. And a good business owner should run their church. You know, every ministry leader should run their church, you know, as a good steward, just like, I should run my business. You know, like, I feel like they're synonymous. And for some reason, there's just like weird fracture, you know?

But watching you do that navigate, that's been awesome. And so one of the other big things is I very much believe in media. And believe that media shapes culture. Yes. And one of the big things we did here is we started a TV broadcast.

I think it was the first thing we did. Yeah, the first thing. Yeah. So in this studio, we started a TV broadcast with Sam. And you broadcasted one of the biggest TV in Mexico. Yeah. And God gave you favor there. And it blessed.

And while it brought people to the church, what it did was it expanded. You know, it's like, when you begin to not control media, but you are there, it now it sets a tone and it allows people to follow and see the vision.

And it's like, it's just, I don't know what it is, but media is always there to shape culture.

I think it's a tool that we oftentimes miss. Yes. We started a TV broadcast and then talked to me about the very first business you started. So the very first person that was started was the sewing center. Yeah.

And that we were talking in a table and you're saying, like, okay, Sam, let's figure out what, what do you have? Yeah. And it's funny because now churches ask me, how do you pick a business? How do you find the business?

“And I remember sitting there and you tell me, what do you got?”

And I remember of Jesus with the five fish and the five loaves to those. You know, and saying, what do you got? And I totally, well, I have girls that, you know, that are here mostly our girls and this and that. And I have a lady in our church that knows how to sew and we're just kind of doing some classes. Then we will, why don't we start a sewing center and you can make some dresses.

Right. And we came here and we started like, you know, processing like this stuff. And then you tell me, I'll give you the money by the machines and we'll go from there.

And you send us, I think, $6,000 or something like that. We bought six machines or something like that to start.

“I think it was like three that cut and then three that sew.”

Right. And we just started teaching the girls and that we started making Mexican traditional dresses. The lady that was here was making all these Mexican traditional dresses. And it provided help to all these girls that were in bad situations. And you know, you know, all these girls that were not only trying to provide for them, but sometimes for their, for their family.

Sure. Things like that. And I start to see that businesses do way more than I ever expected. Right. Because it helped them in a way that nothing else can help them.

And I understand now why God allows us to work and and what have got created work. Because I started to see a light in their eyes. Because they could see I'm not only getting fed. Sure. I'm actually going to be able to learn how to feed myself.

And then even more than that, I'm not only going to be able to to, you know, we don't just give them live, but I'm going to have a purpose in my show. And someday I'm going to have even the ability to give. Right.

And you just switched everything, but that's the first business I would start it.

There was so much fun, you know, we were talking a lot about it in the beginning, and you had a bunch of ideas. And I didn't understand next to culture. Also, like one thing that Sam told me, he's like, we could sell water. And I'm like, water. Like, why would we sell water?

And he was like, water businesses are big here. And I was like, what should be free? Yeah. Don't you get water for free? And he was like, not good water.

Yeah. And I was like, all right.

“But anyways, and a lot of the conversation we had was, is I believe very much that we are not just stewards of.”

The money and the resources we have are stewards of the people that God put in it puts in our life. Yes. And, you know, in the conversation we had was like about the people that you were stewarding. You know, like, who is he put in? And then that's when we talked about the lady that, you know, was sewing and she had a gift.

And, but not only that, she loved the girls and she was already doing it. Like, the business wasn't like some crazy idea that we had in the middle of the night. It was like, no, this, this work was already happening. Yeah. She was already helped trying to help these girls.

God was already moving. God was already there moving. And that's where I think that most people miss it. They think, like, oh, I have to come up with it. And I think oftentimes we're a conduit.

You know, like, we're a conduit of grace and mercy and the gifts and talents that got us given us. We don't have to do it outside of, you know, what he's given us. Yeah.

And so when we started the first sewing business, it was already happening.

All we did was just gave it resources and put a structure. Yeah. And put a structure around it. And then watching them do that. And then they're selling their dresses in the marketplace.

And now these girls, their, some of them came from some of the most horrific situations. Yes. You know, you helped them. You fed them. You clothe them.

But then you gave them purpose. Yes. And then not only that, they're now seeing the work of their hands being sold in the marketplace here in Guadalajara. And they see the beauty and what they've created.

It's now they're creating, right? And I think that oftentimes business is just that. It's creation. And I think that when we are called to be co-creators with God, what it is is it's like, he's giving us purpose in his purpose.

And that's where we find true fulfillment. And so we, you know, see these girls and they're finding massive fulfillment here. But then it starts turning a profit. And the profit now is going back to help kids that were in the same situation that they came from.

Yeah. And there is no greater purpose. You know, like I told you about the five phases of business. But that's the five phases of life, too. When you get to, when you get past sustainability, sustainability or

viability, I can take care of myself. And I'm not in jeopardy of loss. Expansion or scale is when now I had the opportunity to impact everybody else. Yes. And then succession is about passing in that same thought on to someone else that gives

them the same ability to scale. That's where they, it's like, they went from persevere. And it's like, I don't know how to feed myself. I don't know how to take care of myself. And now I can take care of myself.

And now I can actually make impact and give. And that's where I love what we're doing here. And so let me just kind of like wrap up this kind of thought. Because I feel like I want to give every person is listening. This idea that they have the ability.

It's already exist in their world. If they just would consider it.

“Talk to me just for a second about what life is like.”

What you feel like, what you experience. Now that you've taken this step versus maybe before a lot of these steps were taken. Like what's life like for Sam for your wife or your kids?

So the first thing that that ever happened is we were first talking about helping people.

I don't see them as as kids. I see them as my kids. And we were talking about it.

“You asked me a question, wouldn't you do that for your kid?”

And that just keeps, you know, drilling in my head. I would, what do we do for our kids? We give them education to feed them. But we don't want them just just no math. We want them to succeed in life.

And we want to help them how to get a good relationship.

And ultimately how to succeed in life.

So when we started the businesses, it shifted from taking care of them until they are 18. To saying, now they are my responsibility for life. And I need to prepare them for life. Now the question was, how do I do that? And I realized that when we did businesses, number one,

it helps them to create that work ethic and to grow to be educated. They learn a skill, a trade that is going to take care of them for the rest of their life. But then they get purpose. And they say, now I can help others. And then finally, they give back into the place where we are not stressing every day.

What are we going to eat? Right. And so it really, for my family personally, he has lifted a big, a big stress from my personal family because I paid for everything. He was if Sam doesn't make money, nobody eats.

Right. And it's a burden. It's a heavy burden to bear. I mean, business owners will understand what I'm saying. If you're a business owner, you completely understand this.

You have filled the weight of the world for every person that works for you. Right. Now imagine that for people who can't work. And then I was digging a hole instead of building a ladder, because I am making them dependent on me.

Sure. It's funny. I interviewed a few people when we started the orphanage that have an orphanage. And I asked him, what do you see? What are the results?

And funny enough, two or three people told me, Sam, I wouldn't recommend for you to start an orphanage because instead of helping them get better and they get angry and they hate you.

“And I said, why would they hate you if you helped them?”

They said because when they turn 18, they kind of feel like when they were cute and nice, you know, you got money off of them, even though you took care of them. But then at 18, you're no longer family, just let them go. And then in my mind, I was thinking, if my dad did that to me when I was 18.

Sure. I would be, where did my dad go? Right. And that's that for them. So I said, you know what?

We're not only going to help them. We're going to empower them. We're going to give them purpose. And we're going to see them succeed. Now, three and a half years later,

we have eight different businesses. Last year alone, we made over a few. We donated it on top of profit. We donated over $50,000. This year, we're going to do a lot more.

And, you know, 40 plus kids are in school. We take it over 100 orphans. We are able to provide food baskets and do several things in the community out of those businesses. And then on top of that, I'm not built. I'm not digging a hole.

Now, we have kids that I perform three weddings last year for them. They're getting married. They have children. And they have a business. They have a skill. But they can provide for their family.

And they don't only do that. They donate their time, their talents, and their treasure. Back into the business. So when people have come, if you came here three years ago,

you never see the same thing.

One thing that I get told all the time. And I don't see it because I'm here in the trenches all every day. It's like I can recognize this place. Because now we're what we dream three or half years ago. I was here eight months ago and it's completely different.

There's so much new. There's so many more people, you know. And that is what we're dreaming three or half years ago. Multiple occasions. You also told me something Sam,

you need to develop leaders. And leaders need responsibility. And they need experience. And they need a way, you know, leaders will always find a way to go. Where to go?

What to do something. So you gotta provide that for them. And now we have a bunch of leaders here. And it's just amazing. We're able to do so much from that.

What I saw, not right off the bat, because I didn't know a lot of the kids that you're serving and the people. I met them, but I didn't know them. Was that when you come from a very difficult place. And you're given an opportunity.

You realize how valuable that opportunity is.

And you never want to go back to what you have.

And so when a child ages out of an orphanage. And all they know is to go back to what they had.

“And that's what it feels like massive separation.”

But it's like to give them an opportunity. And, you know, we're actually doing a shark tank deal here this afternoon. We're going to fund five of the businesses. And we're going to, you know, it's, I think you're probably end up with, you know, 12, 13 businesses, you know, what this was all said and done.

And, and it's just, it's just growing and growing. So when you foster this environment of growth, excitement, and, and the leaders, just, it's like, they just, when there is opportunity when the vision is that big,

And it's awesome because the leaders here are not 30 year old men or women. They're, they're 21, 22. I mean, it's like, you've got brilliant young men and women that are now here, seeing the opportunity. And, and if you would have seen these young people two or three years ago,

you would not have, believe this was possible. And all they need is a chance.

“And to me, that's what, that's what life is, right?”

Is taking the chance that God gave me and doing the best with it, providing for somebody else to give them a chance to become, you know, what, what they, they're capable of becoming. But anyways, thank you so much for all that you've done. You know, to me, we have a lot of partners around the world.

And you've set a very, very high bar here because of the growth and the expansion. And you know, I tell a lot of our leaders around the world, you know, like, they got to come see Guadalajara because, you know, you set a very high bar.

And it is always changing.

And you've, you've done a very, very good job. So I appreciate that. Thank you for the partnership. And thank you for all the work you put in. No, thank you.

And thank you for giving us a chance. I texted this often. And I don't think you believe it enough. But I, if you wasn't for the change of tables, we wouldn't be where we are. Sure.

It's never about the dream, it's really about the team. And I think God has placed a specific team with us that is able to make it possible. Even every trip that people that come, we create a much better team. And even if we wanted to stop it, we can't now. Yeah.

We have enough people out there that they're just going to continue to do it. Continue to push us. And I can't wait to see where we're going to be in the next 10 years. It's awesome. Well, that is the impact podcast today.

If you want to check out more, go to impactgoothers.com. And appreciate as always, you're listening. Thanks so much for joining the impact podcast. Now, if you're still on. I told Sam, I would give him a chance to ask me some questions.

So we're going to transition a little bit here. So this is what the extra part of the podcast is. Yeah, if you don't want to see it. And he wasn't embarrassed. You can leave right now.

But if you want to ask me. I told him the shot. I said, Eddie, you know a lot about business. But how much do you really know about Mexico? Let's go from there.

You're going to start with. By the way, we're at 103 countries. So I don't feel like it's there. Like that he's going to put me on the spot on Mexico. We'll see what we're going to do.

Let's see. Let's see. Yeah. We're going to start with something. Let's see where you're, where you're, where you're sight.

“The first question is, is Eddie, between pick this, burgers or tacos?”

The tacos. You know, so the one thing that people don't know is when they come here. Yeah. It's probably the best tacos. Yes.

I mean, my 12 year olds with me. I literally said, these tacos are going to change the life. You're every taco in life. You're going to judge against these tacos. Yeah.

I overhyped. I overhyped it.

But in the end, it always delivers.

It overhyped tacos last night at nine, 10 o'clock in the night. Yeah. I remember the first time we went to eat tacos. And I said, this is the best tacos ever. Yeah.

And you said, Sam, I've been in a lot of places in Mexico. Yeah. Don't say something. And they're going to deliver. Right.

I said, just before this. And if you travel through Mexico, you'll understand what I'm saying. Street tacos in Mexico City is really, really hard to beat. And so when he said, I'm going to take you the best tacos you've ever had. I was like, I've been around the world.

I've eaten some tacos. Like, that's a very, very tall. I'm going to tell you something. We ate their last night. And if we ate their again tonight, I'd be totally happy.

Yeah. That's amazing. All right. Let's get a little bit more tacos, only because of that. Because of that.

Yeah. And I don't even have a name of this. It's a, it's a roadside stand that has about 500 people out of it all time. Yeah, every night. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. We're going to change gears. This is a little more difficult. Okay.

So independence. I'm going to give you two dates. Okay. And you tell me when it's Mexico's independence. Okay.

16th of September. Okay. We're seeing quite a mile. So I feel like this is a trip. A trip.

Trap here because I would say most Americans think that the link of the mile is Mexican independence day. But I don't think you would ask me that if it was actually independence day. So I want to go to September day.

“Because by reason, by deductive reasoning, I think.”

And by the way, we're right here in the middle of Sink of the mile here, which I didn't realize. But I'm going to go to September. Yeah. It is.

So what does Sink of the mile? I have no clue. I have no clue. I have no clue. I have no clue.

Mexicans don't ask me back. My dad sent me an article. He said, Sink of the Mayo. Yeah. Like it was Mexico fighting for mayonnaise.

Okay. It's not even a thing. It's an American thing. It's an American thing. It was some small war.

I think against the French. Okay. And I think we ended up winning. I really don't know.

I never heard of Sink of the mile or celebrating it.

Which I'm probably a bad Mexican. Until I went to the U.S. Do they celebrate it here? Not real. I mean, we celebrate more children's day.

Yeah. You have children's day this week. What? And so do you celebrate your independence day like America does? Yes.

And we do a soccer game. Got it. You know, big fireworks.

So do you fireworks and everything?

Yeah. Everything. Very cool. We do a more dynamite, I think. More than the big ones.

But still, you know. Just below. Yeah. All right. Capital of the country of Mexico.

I would assume it's Mexico City. Okay. Good. Okay. All right.

You got those. Yeah. How many states do we have in Mexico? So it's not a lot of states. It's not like the US where we have 50.

How would say? 14? 14. We are a 31. The Mexico City.

We have quite a bit. We, Mexico City used to be district. They could district. And then now we made it another state. Another state.

But yeah, 30 plus. How many people live in Mexico? So I didn't know this one until last week when I studied for this. I would best. My best guess.

I mean, the hardest part is it's hard to judge because like when you go into like Mexico City. Yeah.

“It's like I would say that I think Mexico City is the most populated place in the planet.”

Like I've been a Tokyo. And people are like, no Tokyo. I'm like, no, if you've ever been in Mexico City, like it is pretty. Like they're on top of each other. Like there are five people living in a one bedroom.

You know, it's like wild.

So Mexico City is the hard one because it's got to be like 25 or 30 million.

I don't even know it's huge. That's really close. So then, while the heart is somewhere between 6 and 10 million. Yeah. I'm going to go 120 million.

That's very close. We're 130 million. 130 million. I asked this question to have a different American. He said 10 million.

I'm like, what do you think will be like? It's like just what the heart is. Yeah. 130 million. Yeah.

Okay. I was close. And then finally. Okay. Where was the Caesar salad invented?

Where was Caesar salad invented?

“So I would have originally thought Italy because it's the Caesar salad, you know.”

And Rome, right? But since you're asking me that, I'm going to go. I'm going to go like a higher end area of Mexico. Let's go Monterey. Monterey.

That's close. I was in Tejwana. I met Tejwana. I didn't know this. It was Italy.

Yeah. But I wasn't an airplane. And I was looking into it. And he said Tejwana. And then I read a whole article.

Do they even consider Tejwana part of Mexico? Are you going to claim Tejwana?

I mean, that's like basically.

Tejwana. Tejwana. Oh, that's hilarious. But those are great. You think pretty good.

You think that was very good. That was very good. Next time.

“Next time that's somebody calls me, too.”

Well, we'll interview a few others. All right. So what happens? Thank you so much for being here. Yeah.

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