Are We Great Yet?

So we're supposed to start the podcast.

Ready, one, two, three. Patriots, Patriots, Patriots, Black Triads, Brown Triads, and all of the triple trumpers in anybody on the planet that actually still supports Trump can do what pumps. So go off.

Welcome to America's top DEI podcast. Trying to change the minds of voters one episode at a time. Palms, what have you had it with? Okay, what I've had it with are people that trap you with the text and then immediately call you so they know you have your phone in your hand.

So if you ignore it, you're just like the biggest dick on the planet. It's like the minute the bubbles start, then they call you. Or the minute it gets delivered, they call you. And I just, I don't, I'm sure it's my codependency, but I'm just like, I can't ignore it at this point because they know I have my phone in my hand

and I'm typing to the, hey yeah, yeah, that's a good one. I think I both hate this and do this.

“I think this is one of those where I've had it with it,”

but I also participate in the grievance because sometimes I have to tell somebody something and, you know, it's hard to get tone in text, like sometimes when I'm writing out of text, I notice I'm like using four exclamation points and then I'm like, backtrack, backtrack, backtrack, backtrack. Am I really that enthusiastic about this?

And then I just put the period and then I'm like, does that make me sound like a cunt? You know, is it one exclamation point? So sometimes if I text somebody something and then they respond and I have to tell them in person. Like, I want the voice of voice contact, but I too have been in this trap.

Where somebody has texted me and I just want to respond really quick to clear out my text, you know, text that need to be returned and then I get zapped with a call and depending on how much I like the person will answer. If it's a person, I absolutely 100% don't want to talk to you. I have no problem with saying, so sorry, can't chat right now, can only text.

I would say that's, I haven't thought of that. But I will say this about you because I thought about that. You and I kind of do that sometimes, but here's the difference.

“You can call and say, hey, do you know where the red lipstick is?”

Yes, start of that. Okay, bye. Like, it's not prolonged. The problem with these people is there's a prolonged nurse. They want to talk about superfluous shit. If it was just a question in and out, let's do this.

I don't care, but it's never the people that are efficient.

It's always the people that just prolong everything. Have you ever found yourself like, I'll be getting a lot of texts, like a Sunday. And I'm like, I'm going to pretend like I'm not using my phone today. And so I'm like not responding to the text, thinking I'll respond to them like much later in the evenings that I don't want to get involved in a belabored texting and it's stupid shit.

Somebody sending me something and then the conversation goes on and I don't really enjoy text conversations at all. I don't get any joy out of belabored text conversations. So I'm ignoring like five text messages, right? So then I get over to Instagram. And it's like, here's a video of Roth and Adal winning the 2022

Rell and Garros and I'm like double tap. Here's Punch the Monkey fighting back and I'm like double tap. And it's like, and here's the resistance and somebody making fun of Trump and I'm like double tap. And they've all been posted within an hour. And then I'm like, oh, shit. Everybody knows that I'm not returning the text that I'm over liking shit on Instagram.

And I'm so busted. And that's the thing about the smartphone and a nimony and avoidance is damn near impossible. That I agree. I don't do that because I when I'm doing all that tap like I sometimes I can't I just have to hit the heart like the double tap still escapes me. But yes, I do that while I'm trying to ignore people.

Here's what I hate. And this happens to me all the time with my assessment.

I will send a text. It will be ignored. But then there will be a text stream with one of my children and it's rapid response. So I know I'm being ignored. Why are you texting your access bin about like, okay, this is what I paid for tuition or whatever. Okay. Like the reimbursement. Oh, we're just talking about old times and love. But you know, no, that he like that particular person enjoys more than anything. Having some

“drama where there is no drama. Yes. So he's dying for you to say, why didn't you text me back?”

He's dying. I know. I just what's back in the day I would have. But now I'm just like, no, no, no,

Yeah, little. Yeah, I think I think that the final coup to grow in the growth would be to have

your children text and say, you a mom. Exactly. Hey, by the way, mom said to complete blackout of all communication. Like a total block. Yes. If anybody deserves a total block from you, it's not a matter. No, no question about it. But I think it would be a show up at my door. Oh, God. Can you imagine anything worse than that? I really can't. I really can't. We're in

“the middle of a Trump presidency. Listen, that's how bad. That's a situation is.”

It's so undesirable. It's sort of torture. I, ah, God. That's it's something. All right,

welcome. Oh, no, I need to take what I've had. All right, I've had it with my husband,

misgendering my French bulldogs. So for years, he misgendered my cat, Kitsky. The late Kitsky. She died ever as everybody knows after a long lifelong battle with asthma and diabetes. She lived to 18. So Kitsky is a girl, Josh, for the entirety of her life, referred to Kitsky as he him pronouns. And so my husband and I just went on vacation together and we took our dogs because our children are in college. And I just honestly dogs are fantastic to travel with. And he kept calling

Cha Cha who is female him and he. He him pronouns. And I'm just like, she's five. We've had her

“for five years. She is a girl. Like, you need to use the correct pronouns with our dogs and the same”

thing with Tabby. He'll be like, she needs to take her medicine. I'm like, we have had him for 10 years and the misgendering. And it's like this, I don't, I don't understand what it's about. I don't know why you would want to misgender a dog or a cat. It's just so bizarre to me. But he does it all the time. And I can tell that I, you know, I can tell that the dogs don't like it. They're very offended when I can tell. Tillie, I kept calling her him or he. And my daughter came on,

I mean, she was on me every second about the misgendering. And I've got really, I mean,

I don't, I don't do it anymore. I'm like, how are my boys and my girl? But if I said,

“come here, boys, no, you're not misgendering her and I'm like, okay, okay. So I was going to say with”

Josh, it was a new thing that the evidence suggests this goes on a long time. There's really just no excuse for it at this point. What's your excuse for misgendering? Because I had two boys select the first month that I had Tillie, I kept referring to her, like, as him. Like, I need to take him outside. And it was like, you know, just in the very beginning. I'm saying it. Yeah, I don't know what, I don't know what Josh still is.

Other than we did make it to Mexico on this trip. And, you know, he has just such prolonged type of country. Yeah, we didn't have any air issues. Had eggs, same to have subsided. He did get some rogue blood test recently. And there was some marker in the number of something, okay? Like, this seems a little a little low. So of course, he's on chat GPT, which by the way, listen, or Josh and I both canceled our chat GPT. And I filled out the survey as to why I

canceled it. And I put Sam Altman is a fascist collaborator. Because there was an other, good idea. Altman is a fascist collaborator. And I joined and threw up it, who's fighting with the Department of Defense. And I now a Claude user. But this was before we fired chat GPT and listen, everybody should boycott chat GPT because Sam Altman is a pussy and a fascist collaborator. But anyway, so it's something about kidneys or something. And he brought it up once.

And I kind of just sidelied him. And we went through eight days in Mexico without any hypocondrients, but something terrible happened. So Josh has been working out like crazy. Like he works out all the time, lifts weights all the time, drinks, creatine, protein, powders, all that shit, right? And he looks really good. I mean, he's just turned 57.

So we're walking down the beach one day. And this couple, rather older gentleman with a younger, we can't trust it. Look like on his arm. And he kind of says to Josh. And this guy had on like a swim top cover up. So he must not do super proud of his like a rash guard. He wasn't super proud of his upper body, I would say. I could because she was in like a skimpy little bikini.

“And he walks by Josh and he goes, god. I think maybe you ought to work out more, bro.”

Because Josh was so built. So it was a compliment, right? Did he take it there immediately? He took it that way. I immediately picked up what they put down. Okay. And since that incident, I've had to relive that story five times with five different people. And he starts it off by saying, why don't you ask Jennifer with the guy said to me on the beach? It's like, it's like, it's like passing the narcissism. Like he wants to be a narcissism. But he wants to be a

narcissist. But he wants to pass it to me for me to bring up. So I've had it with that, I've had it with the mischindering. We are doing better on the hyper-country of front. So that's growth. I'm really happy about that. And I just wish that nobody would give Josh

“a compliment anymore. And it's not that I'm a mean person, which people could make an argument.”

So that is that I have to live with the aftermath of that compliment. Right. He doesn't just say, oh my gosh, thank you so much. That's so nice. And that's it. That's it. It's over. That compliment lives on. I mean, just a two days ago he brought it up. He was in New York visiting me and he brought it up to a girl at the gym. My friend Jennifer told me, tell you what the guy said to me on the beach. And I was just like, why don't you shut the

fuck up? What? How about that? How about we? How about we shut the fuck up? It was two weeks ago. Let's move on from it. Here's the deal. The minute you said the guy said that, I knew exactly what you were thinking because it's true. Like, it really is true, really living it, bringing it up. That's kind of funny that he's now he's brought you in to be part of the narcissist instead of just saying, oh, yeah, this guy said I looked great and super built. Now you're a part of it. That's an

interesting twist. It's just a torture me. I mean, it's just, I mean, the because then he dies left because he knows he'd see he's doing it to be provocative of a reaction for me that it's just like, shut the fuck up and then he's dying laughing. All right, welcome. I've had it. I'm Jennifer. I'm Angie. Kylie, how's it going? It's going good. Okay, before we move forward, I would like to mention listener. Kylie today has on a fleece jacket with it looks like a little

doily lace style trim, very cute, super cute. Very lesbian cheek. The last two to three times

we were on this stream three times. We Kylie looks like a million bucks. She's in this like

silk chiffon blouse with this tie on. And each time we run out of time and we're unable to film I've had it. And she looks like a million bucks, right? So then the next day, she likes to put it on the same outfit because she wants all the gaitriets, the leshtriets, the black triets, the blancher, brown triets, the patriots, even fucking magas. She wants everyone to see how spectacularly cunty her outfit is. And each time we're unable to film the episode due to time restraints,

scheduling restrictions, et cetera. And so have you given up on the outfit? Yes, yeah, it I refused to put it on today, but only because I was worried it would mean something would go wrong.

It's like, hey, time I put that shirt on. The third time was pretty humiliating. I was putting it on.

Just was like the episode's not gonna happen. And I'm gonna look like a loser sitting in my outfit for the third time. And so I was like, I'm not fucking putting it on today. And look, we're filming. But it really is. It's so good. And it will make it to it. It's right out. But you look great in it. You look really fine. Great. You would break the lesternet. Lesternet. Well, I really would. It would break the lesternet. I mean,

“it would be like, I think it could be a really good positive thing for lesvians that outfit.”

And it on the worldwide web. The third time I had it on, I don't know about you, but when I

repeat an outfit, I like it a little bit less each time. Totally. First time I felt just

the hottest of ever looked, Seth even threw me a compliment. Second time I was like, okay,

I hate shirt. I hate it. Yeah. I really hate that about me too. I have that same

“affliction. And it's so stupid. Like if I wear something, then I'm like, well, I've already”

worn it before. And that's just so shallow and pretentious. And I just have to, I came to terms with the fact like 20 years ago, just like you're just shallow and pretentious, Jennifer. You just are both of those things. Like you just need to accept it. Like you are shallow, you're pretentious. You are fall prey to the worst pitfalls of capitalism. And I've been to a lot of therapy and on a lot of various different issues that's just not something I've been able to really

fully rectify yet as the shallow pretentious nature in my character. I really haven't. I've tried. But I really like things. I do. Like I like clothes. I like I really like those things. And I wish I could be one of these people. Like it doesn't matter what I wear. Pumps you used to be like that for years. She'd be like, I don't care what I wear.

She never cared. She took up in a robe in public. A robe in slippers. Never gave a fuck. And I was just

like, I just like close. I just love fashion. I love it. I love all different facets of fashion.

“Yeah, one of my things is when you were saying that, like, I don't remember what I wear. I'm afraid”

I'm on the opposite spectrum. I feel like I wear the same thing over and over and over and over again, because I just don't remember. So just call me out on that if you notice it because I kind of start to think, I wear the same thing over and over. I've started to, because I'm my junior work at it and move all my clothes. And so I've been trying to embrace the, like, this, I probably weren't 10 times. And I'm just like embracing it. Like, I'm going to wear the sweater a bunch of

season. And that's just the end of it. But I do feel better. And I do feel like a better person when I wear something new each day. And that's a fucking terrible admission to make. It's really terrible. But I'm just going to own it. Like, I'm 51 years old. Trying to do what I can do. But if every day I put on a brand new outfit, I'd be fucking invincible. I just, I don't know what I could tackle. I really don't. Like, if I could have somebody kind of like, here's a new outfit of the day.

And then I can take it after that. I'd be like, good riddance. See you later. And that's just a horrible shout. I mean, I'm telling you, I'm really shallow and prodigious. I really am. It's horrible character defect horrible. Genu fixed so much. I just think like, let's let you have this one.

“Yeah, I just, I think of all the character defects. I'd rather have that than a lot of the ones I have.”

I mean, oh, I have a lot of others too. This is just one that's been consistent my whole life. There's this that movie. We watch it every Christmas. I think it's called The Family Man and it has Nicholas Cajun. Yes. Yeah. And Taleyoni. And so it's kind of like a Charles Dickens thing where he goes and he gets a glimpse of what his life would be like if he wasn't this rich, hedge fun prick blah, blah, blah. And so he goes to the mall and he tries on like a Zenia suit.

And he puts it on. He goes, it's amazing how much better of a person I feel like I am wearing this suit. Just like a, it's like horrible. And I completely related to his character. Like I totally get that. Like I feel like a better person and a great fucking outfit. I feel better. No, only

do I look at a terrible. It's never. So fucking awful, but I totally have it.

I would argue that I, I'm a better employee. Like I work harder. My brain is sharper. I feel smarter. I feel better. Yeah. That's true. I, I, I understand. I totally get it. Okay, in lieu of a review, I have an email that a distraught listener has sent us. They have a grievance. And it says Dear Jennifer and Pumps a month ago, all my office colleagues had to do a color personality test. And then discuss why we are the way we are. No surprise to me. I'm a

thinker and not a cheerleader. Last week, we all had to do a team building activity where we took a personality test. And guess where I ended up? Same result. Today, I just got an email invite to another team building event that is an escape room. Not two weeks ago, I said to my co-workers that I'd rather shoot myself in the head than doing a escape room. I'm 65. I'm looking to retire in a couple of years. In the 43 years that I've been working professional, I've done every color test,

personality test, ropes course, icebreaker team building, morale building, how to manage a team, two truths in a lie, pop luck, lunch and learn, and trust exercise. Not to mention office, door decorating contest, pumpkin carvings, chili cook offs and birthday parties. Can I just work?

people's personality color because clearly they don't care about mine. Please, I've had it.

That's a nightmare. I have so many questions about that. That is just such a nightmare. You hear these stories about all these just exhausting, team building bullshit things and then what your color is and it's just like, go to work, do your job. Sometimes you like people at work. Sometimes you don't like people at work. You know who the superficial people at work are, you know who the real ones are, and you just navigate through it. That's just is what it is. There's no need to have all of these

circle jerks. It's just such a miserable experience. And I would say in a work environment,

I'm far more a thinker than I am a cheerleader, far more. I'm always more thinking than I am cheerleading,

because I find a lot of cheerleading so superficial. I find it just like this fained bullshit support instead of especially in a work environment. Everything just needs to be business. You just have to cut through all of the superficiality of feelings and get to what are we doing here? What are objectives? Let's get them done and then go live our real lives outside from this job.

“That's what my whole question is. Like, if why would they want to spend all this time on that”

kind of shit? Because it seems like a thinker would just be exactly what you want it. We're not

fucking around. We're going to do our job. We're going to leave all these activities. I think it's like

makes it harder to work. I just don't understand why anybody would do this. Well, I think in her and the e-mailers form, she has no choice. No idea that I'm a person queer. Why would you want all this? Because you get these focus groups that come in and do all this bullshit stuff. And I think this comes from, I'm telling you, this all starts with gender reveal parties. Whenever they started the gender reveal parties and we started celebrating humans and you

do row, then we started inventing a lot more activities to do. We started inventing kindergarten graduation, preschool graduation, lower school graduation. I mean, like all of this

“shit to where it just it builds and builds and builds to where the whole life is just a superficial”

house of cards. And you're doing trust falls and color stuff at work. Nothing means nothing. For color, what a completely different color. She still has the same fucking job with the same set of employees. All of this has to do with over-celebrating, overthinking, over-analyzing, not being efficient. This is an inefficient society. Yeah, I agree. Okay, and I'm going to news story for you. Jen, you just came back from Mexico. You were talking about your dogs.

There's a lot of new paperwork you have to have. And so there's this story going viral this woman that went to an airport with her dog. And then I'll let the video play. It'll explain it. Good news update before you respond. The dog was adopted by the officer that rescued him. So I saw this online. And I just can't imagine that you would leave your dog at the airport. And I watched the video multiple times. And the woman has a stainless-esque styled

“opener hands. That's a ticket counter. And I think that if you go back to our first episodes and”

look at the case that we're making for what is a precursor to fuckery? What is a precursor to making horrible life choices? What is a slippery slope to maga? What is a slippery slope to being a dog abuser? You can go back to doing trust falls at the office. You can go back to the inception of this podcast. And it is gender-reveal parties, staying like cats. And there's this through line to all of these things that I oppose fundamentally. And so I just felt so bad for JetBlue.

And I'm so glad that JetBlue, number one, I'm glad that JetBlue was left because yeah, JetBlue needed a new owner. But I just think about how her feelings must have been hurt at the airport. And I'm so glad that that officer found her and adopted her. And I saw a picture of the officer with his family and he has like kids and you know, doodles are like so family oriented. But if you if you look at that video, she clearly has a thermostangely cup-style beverage in her hands.

Oh yeah, it's orange, right? Yeah, it's got a big, yep. First thing I noticed right out of the gates,

I knew that I mean, right when I saw it, it's like, she got a cap in her hand at the airport, not supposed to have caps at the airport. And if you're traveling with your cup and you're pouring your water out in the trash can, then you're filling up your cup on the plane. It's just too much stop with the performative hydration. I knew that dog was fucked. The moment I saw that cup and a dog on a leash, I fucking knew it. I knew it. Also, if I'm on an airport and something

drawn in my dog can't come with me, I don't, I can't go on the trip. That's it, that's it. That's just, think about this. She took her cup and left her dog. She took the cup and left

the dogs and everybody thinks I'm a raving lunatic, calling out the Stanley Cupbers in the

performative hydrateers. But think about that. She had a choice. Leave the cap, leave the dog. She left the dog. She took the cup. I bet you, and you went, I bet you that bitch is still dehydrated.

“You know who I think also probably started out with the cup?”

Christy, no, I bet it's just gonna say that. Yeah, look where that ended up. Look, that dog got off easy, JetBlue. Yeah, you're the right question. There's no question. Oh my God. So I've read this story. We need to dive into this for eyepnose. Okay, you know, there was the story about Christy Nome and the Jet, and the blanket left on the jet. Yes. Well, some loose lips, sink ships, or leaking a story that something far more embarrassing

was left on the plane than the blanket. So I'm thinking, since she, Christy Nome, the Department of Homeland Security Cosplayer, she's screwing Corey Lewandowski, even though they're both married and Bible numbers and all this shit, right? I bet it's a bit, I bet it's a bag full of sex toys or something.

“That's what I thought. When you said, I was like, but plugs, but balls,”

dildo, mine. Yeah, all of it. You know what, I bet she, I mean, this is pretty graphic. I'm just going to go ahead and say it because fuck it. We're in Trump's second term. I bet she pegs Corey. One. You think she's the beggar? Yeah. Yeah. I bet that's for, I bet that she shot a dog so I bet then when it gets to. I'm a big, key woman all that. Wow. All the late things. She's a beggar. Yeah. So I'll take her for sure.

But you know, here's the thing, there's a new book coming out about their affair.

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“to make sure I say hello to him. You've seen as videos all over TikTok and Instagram are”

massing billions of views and building one of the most engaged audiences in country music with

3.6 million TikTok followers and 1.3 million on Instagram, which is more than us, which really

pisses me off because we're old and competitive. Brian has captured the attention of major media from Rolling Stone to Don Lemon to another than I've had it and we would like to welcome Brian Andrews to I've had it. Brian, how are you? Good, how are you guys? Good. I love how excited to be here. We're happy to have you. So excited to have you. You know, you're really kicking ass on social media. Yeah, try and try and. Let me ask you that. So you're you're a country singer. Yeah.

There was a country song that they they sang at the other the Maga Super Bowl. Yeah. That it was like I got it. Can't smile face. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. I've had it with that fucking bullshit too. Yeah, absolutely. It's like I want to mount my yard. Yeah, drink my beer. Yeah, the whole premise of the song really is not like that crazy.

It's basically just saying, you know, I want to be left alone. But my problem with that is like, you know, you don't get to say I just want to be left alone and wipe my hands clean when you see all this shit is going to shit, finding, you know what I mean? Like if, you know, the premise of I just want to be left alone is whatever buddy wants. But you don't get to say I just want to be left alone when you see and support the people who are now intruding on other people's lives. So when you

see them not being left alone, you ought to be able to stand up and say, hey, that's bullshit. Well, and I would argue before I kick this interview to pop sprang because I've got a bounce. But they say they want to be left alone, but they want to jump all up in trans people's live gay people's lives, queer people's live, drag queens people's lives, what books people can check out from the library. So they actually don't want to be left alone. They just want to be

“all up in other people's shit. And that's what pisses me off about the hypocrisy of that type of”

white person. Yeah, exactly. It's the, you know, like I said, you don't get to just wipe your hands clean and be like, oh shit, they're really messing with other marginalized communities and everything. I didn't really want that. But this looks a lot worse than I thought it was. So I'm just going to pretend like I didn't have nothing to fucking do with it and stay over here in my land. And that's bullshit. You don't get to do that when you ask for this. Right, because we're

okay, Brian, you and I, I feel like we're separated at birth. Mark's story is so similar in our journeys growing up. Yeah. And I'm an Oklahoma, you were raised in Missouri. Both my folks are from real small towns. And my grandpa, my mom's sideward for dinner motors for 30 years. So he was a union Democrat. And my dad grew up in a household where they were farmers and worked and stuff.

And a lot of farmers back in the day were always Democrats because they, you know, Democrats helped

out the farm. So they, I, I come from Democratic family, but I just grew up in the town where pretty much nobody is a Democrat. You know, I mean, like, especially in the last 16 years, I mean, it's like, I know, I know people that agree with me on a lot of things and like, pretty much everything really. And when, if you were to ask them point-blowing, like, hey, was you can consider yourself a liberal or a Democrat, they'd say, oh, no, I'm an independent,

they will still say I'm an independent because they just do not want to be associated with being a

liberal or a leftist or a Democrat in a small town, but, you know, they just won't say I'm a Democrat. Well, people, I feel like on the coast don't understand how much religion is tied in with being a Republican in a place like Oklahoma or Missouri, like Bible Belt area, you, it would be like a sin on most to be Democrat. I mean, I was wearing super conservative, super Republican, super super churchy. And what I have found out is all the teachings that I was taught about

Jesus and how he handled people and how he accepted people and did for everyone. What I grew up with was that was the message, but we do the opposite and we're able to sit

“and judge other people and the dissonance that I had. And I think it's so important to have a”

magicoded person like you, like I'm magicoded, it's, I mean, no, but a person like you that comes in

and talks about that. So openly and with such conviction. So I've seen several interviews with you and I was just blown away. So if you kind of address that for me. Yeah, I think, I mean, you it, like even in a small town now, you've earned across people, especially in my hometown. I'm sure that if you ask them like, you know, why do you vote Republican? You know, one of their deeper issues is like, I vote Republican because I'm supposed to because I'm a Christian, right? So like

Christianity is very closely correlated with the conservative party which for me is weird because it seems like the further it's true for both ways. The further I get into my faith, the further left I get and the further I get into like my values, the more religious I get, right? So I mean,

“because I think to me Christ was a Brown skin socialist who loved immigrants and, you know,”

was feeding the poor, healing the sick. You know, I mean, like the whole, the whole premise of Jesus was that like everybody's supposed to be taken care of, right? But you see in the Republican party specifically, I think in the United States is that like, it's very individualistic. So in their mind it's like, well, why should I have to pay more in taxes if, you know, somebody else that's lazy and doesn't want to get a job just needs health insurance or, you know, snap benefits or whatever,

why should I have to pay for that out of my check when I get up and go to work for 60 hours a week. And on the paper, that seems like logical, but it's not. I mean, like these people are willingly paying more for privatized health care and private health insurance and things like that so that people can't get access, right, to health care. So that's what I'm saying. Like they're willing to pay more out of pocket. So only they can have health insurance when if they just would pay for,

or if we just had a program like single payer health care, they would end up paying less for insurance or in taxes for insurance. You know, like for health care and everybody else would be able to have access to health care too. So the mindset is really backwards to me because it's like, I just don't understand how you're willing to actually pay more. So people will be able to die versus paying left or less and have the same access to all the health care you need.

And people will still be able to go to the emergency room and not have to fall for bankruptcy.

“Yeah, here's the thing, the person that you describe like lazy, why should I have to pay for it?”

That was how I grew up, but in a very, very religious household. And that screws with your mind,

all the mixed justice. Okay. I have to ask you. I forgot because Jennifer always does it.

Brian Andrews, phenom, what if you had it? I have had it. Oh, I sent these. I can't remember. I've got them here. Yeah, let me Christians and country music. Yeah, that's that's a big thing for me because like I feel like, you know, I'm a Christian myself and I feel like as a Christian, it's my responsibility to call things out when I see them. You know, so like especially in country music, it's like this so close correlation and you see it all the time,

like a vote against Donald Trump as a vote against God. And shit like that to me is just it's blasphemous. Right. I mean, like you're not, first of all, like the conservative party is ultra good at being like, oh, a vote against or a voting against Donald Trump as a vote against God. And then they'll come out and say, well, Jesus doesn't have a political party. Right. And it's like, yeah, but you just used him as a weapon to prop your political party up.

you're using Jesus for your side, too. And I'm like, no, dude, I'm just using Jesus as a defense

“because you used him as a weapon first. So I'm just using him as a way to say, hey,”

if you're going to use Jesus as a weapon, Jesus wouldn't do this. You know, I'm saying so. I mean, for me, like, that's where especially like in country music, it's ultra conservative and ultra like the, not just the audience, but even some people in the industry and everything are very, very religious. And that's okay. I don't have a problem with people being Christian. I have a problem with people like using Christianity to shield them from

accountability or to bury their head in the sand when it comes to like what's happening in the world and things like that. I think that's the big thing right there. Like you see, not just in

country music, but everywhere, like in the Pam Bondi, or the congressional hearing, she just did,

right? Jared Masco has asked her, you know, like, you know, what are you doing with the Epstein files and all this stuff, but then he goes on a tangent of, or he goes on to describe like the Trump Bible and holds up the Trump Bible and it gets laughed and stuff like that. And so what she does is she doesn't, well, all while wearing a big cross around her neck, she says, well, I'm not even going to dignify that with a response because you just made fun of the Bible.

“And so in that moment, that's why people don't like Christians, right? That's why they have a”

bad view of Christians because she used her Christianity right there as a shield to to hide herself from accountability. Now, I completely agree. And I also, like, for me, having grown at that way lived that way as an adult for a long time. I was able to take the entitlement of I'm special, I'm judgemental, wrapped in being white, wrapped in being upper middle class and say, well, that doesn't apply to me. I don't have to think about those things. I get to bury my head

in the sand. Yes. I get to claim no responsibility because I have a personal relationship. It's kind of like Christian narcissism. Yeah. And so do you see that a lot because I was that person Brian. Yes. Yeah. It's absolutely, you see it all the time. And like, that's the, that's a thing. Like, a lot of people, even if they're just like voting for Donald Trump or like, propping up some of the ideologies or policy or whatever like that, but they don't really,

they don't really like support that guy or they're not really that in tune with politics or anything like that or they don't pay attention to politics that much. They'll, they'll literally say that. You know, like, well, all I know is Jesus is the way, right? And I have a problem with that because it's like, yet, okay, you can say Jesus is the way all you want, but Jesus calls you to be interactive with the world around you, right? You know? So like, he calls you to like, call other people out when they're

using certain things to be weapons against people. You're an act bad policy or, you know, like to feed the poor and heal the sick and things like that. So Jesus literally doesn't want you to bury your head in the sand and say, oh, well, he's the way, you know, and I know so many people that are like, well, if people would just accept Christ into their heart, this world will be so much better off. And I'm like, if everybody buried their head in the sand the way that you do, this,

it would be a lot more of a shit store because they'd be able to do what that's the problem we're in now is that people don't care about politics enough that they're able to just enact whatever policy they want and people are not paying attention, right? So like marginalized communities are being hurt first and then eventually it comes for everybody and it's too late to speak out because there's no one left to tell. Okay, so I have to ask you, okay, here's your

brine injuries, your, your, your country music singer, your views lot different than what the stereo type is for country music. You come out and say, this is how I feel you write songs about it, you had to be scared that you were putting your career risk, my guess. Yeah, yeah, I definitely was, I mean, especially being like, I mean, even now, but especially when I first started talking

about it, you know, three months before months ago, like I had never really talked about politics

before, I mean, I had touched on it really, but nothing crazy. And so when I, when I really started diving deep into it, I was very, I guess just, I knew it was a risk, right? So I knew that, like, but I also knew that I felt this way and, you know, like, I didn't want to alienate anybody that I already had my audience, but at the same time, like, who am I going to alienate? People that already don't listen to my music? You know, I mean, I was a small enough order said it was like,

“I can, I can pave the road that I'm building right now. And so for me, I think it was a little bit”

easier than maybe, you know, like, some of the bigger artists, if they feel this way and stuff like that,

people. But I knew that if I felt this way, I wasn't alone, right, from a small town and things like that, and, you know, you see the blue dots in, or blue dots in red states and stuff, right, that everywhere, and, you know, even in my small town, there's a lot more Democrats than you think there are. So,

you know, I mean, it's, it was weird, but at first, but as soon as I got into it, I was like,

you know what? Fuck it. I don't care no more, because I mean, I can't, it was too late for me to start speaking up anyways. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I can't, you know, if I would cared, or if I'd have spoke up, like, I do now before the election, maybe we would have had a different result. And so, like, that's a guilt that I've been here, you know what I mean? And I'm not going to make that fucking same mistake twice in a lifetime. Well, so what's interesting to me,

it's quite the contrary. You have blown up, like, every corner of the internet. You is your face with your views. So, when you, I'm sure you have trolls and haters, of course you know.

“Yeah. But, how, when you found out that, that now, you have, I think you're song with, like,”

number one on every platform. Yeah. It was an, I can't destroy my, by the reaction.

Yeah, I was, I mean, it was a, it's a pleasant surprise, right? And there was like the first

summer I'd ever made billboard. So, I mean, it was, it was pretty insane, but I mean, with every, that was a very weird moment because I hadn't experienced, like, like, mass scale, like, cheers, but I also hadn't experienced mass scale, like, hate, right? So, like, at the, like, for all the, you know, I hadn't NBC article and Huff Post didn't article in, like, you know, billboard and everything like that. It was all good. And then I turned my face and it was, you know,

Fox News doing an article and, you know, some of these huge talking, talking heads on Twitter and stuff like ErX or whatever. And so, seeing that, it was like, it was just very, eye-opening because I also started getting the DMs and everything like that. And it's hard to not look at the, not look at that stuff, right? And, but now that we're getting into it more, like, I'm about to drop the song on Friday, called, "I'll re-great you." So, I don't give a

fucking no more. You know, I mean, if they're going to talk to their shit, they're going to talk to you.

Because here's the thing. I, you know, I used to think, like, damn, these people really are,

some of these people really are coming for me. You know, I mean, and, like, it sucks because, like, I want music to feel like an inclusive thing, but for so long, country music hasn't been inclusive, right? So, that, that was my main goal. You know, anyways, like, if they're going to fucking cut the gate off, fuck you, I'll be able to fucking gate right next to it. You know, I mean, so, for me, it was a, you know, I just had, this is something I had to do. And like,

I don't give a shit, like I said, when I come out with this song, I'll re-great you. I've been in Nashville for the last week and I have writing protests song. So, I don't give a fuck. You know, I mean, it's, it is what it is. And, and I think, like I said, it's too loud for me to ignore. And, this is my road in country music. I'm going to build this brick, brick, brick,

“because country music used to stand up to injustice. And, like, I think that's why you've seen”

such a positive reaction to, like, this whole movement. Anyways, is that, you know, there's, there's people that have stopped listening to country music as a whole, because, right, that, you know, the order sent in or whatever, like the ideology behind it, and everything like that, that are now coming back to it. And, you know, because they're like, oh shit, not everybody's like that in country music. You know what I mean? So, I don't know. For me, it was a,

a cool experience, because I was like, well, fuck them. You know what I mean? And it was just, like, finally, like, cuffs off, like, who gives it shit? We're just going to fucking say how we feel, and it worked. And, like, that's what I'm most proud of to be honest is that, you know, I was able to take a chance on something, and it worked. You know, and it was able, I was able to just authentically be who I am, you know, and how I was raised and everything like that. And, you know, the parents,

“I had, you know, were just great. And, they've been there 100% of the way. Like, I think,”

when I was first putting out the older I did, I was like talking to my dad, and he was, I was like, I don't know if I should put this out. And he was like, well, would you rather not make it, because you just weren't good enough, and people just didn't like your music or whatever, or would you rather not make it, because you said something like you spoke the truth, and people just weren't ready to hear it yet, and I chose the latter and it worked out,

because people weren't ready to hear it. And they've been begging for it to be honest. Okay, I have had it. I've had it with people using religion as a hall pass to control everyone else's lives. I've had it with politicians pretending that constitution is optional when it comes to church and state. The first amendment is actually very clear. The government

Nationalists are trying to shove their beliefs into public schools, into laws, into courts, and we are not doing this. The freedom from religion foundation is one of the few groups actually fighting back. They take these cases on, they enforce the constitution, and they protect everyone's freedom of conscious, not just one group. This isn't anti-religion. It's anti-forced religion. If you're also done with this nonsense, join them. Visit ffrf.us/fight or text the word fight

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data rates may apply. Okay, we're going to play our world famous game. How did it prohibit? Oh my god, welcome to how did it prohibit? I would hit it. I hit it. I hit it. I hit it. Every day sometimes twice a day.

So the first thing I'm going to ask you about is, this is, I know the answer to this, but ice.

Yeah, had it. Had it. Had it. Up to fucking here. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Like we're breaking our own laws. Yeah, no, it's insane. I mean, to see even people condoning it, this is what ffrf and rubs me so raw. Is that I'm from a small town, and I see like all these like, oh, don't ffrf in touch my guns, like don't trade on me guys all the ffrf in time, but when they see the federal government shooting people in the ffrf streets of their own ffrf in cities, they ain't got a ffrf

in thing to say. Again, it's the hypocrisy. So it basically boils down to as long as it's our guns and we're shooting the people that we hate and then we're for it. But if it's your guns and you're one of the people we hate, you don't get to have the same rise. I mean, that's at the end of the day. And here's the deal. Brian, I believe for me, and I, as a Christian, I was able to, you know, growing up until I deconstructed my faith, I was able to do that to people.

It doesn't look pretty on you, but it looks pretty on me. And I'm entitled to have more. And I look back on that and I am so ashamed of that behavior and the lack of empathy. But it just, it's jarring to see so many people that support an agency that let's take out the murdering of U.S. citizens. They're piling people up. They're taking them to concentration camps. You hear story after story. They're not getting medical care. They have kids shooting in the

buckets. Shooting in buckets. They're on alligator alcatraz. They're selling merch. So it's like this movement is feeding cruelty in hatred in people. Yeah, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the

“point. Like that's what I'm saying. We call these people bootlookers all the time, right? But they”

don't feel like bootlookers. They feel like they're the fucking boot, and they like it. Right. Yeah, I'm trying so hard to get people in small towns to be like, dude, this is your fucking moment. Like this is what you've been saying. Don't tread on me for you know, I'm saying your grandparents didn't go run shine in these hills to say, you know, fuck the law. So you could get down on your fucking knees and fucking kiss their boots. You know what I mean? Like it's insane to

mean that these people are like condoning all this bullshit. But like I said, they feel like

since they voted for it, they feel the power. And they finally like being able to feel like they're

hiring up on the fucking totem pool than somebody. But what I'm trying to drill into their head is that they ain't gonna write, don't kill Trump voters on the bullets they used to shoot us with. Right. Yeah. So you're right on that. Okay. How did you hit it? The magatek over of mainstream media.

“Fucking had it. Yeah. I mean, like that's that's how I feel like how it feels watching magatek over”

media and like spaces like the manosphere and things like that is how I felt watching like this ultra conservative movement and Christian nationalism take over country music for the last 20 years. You know what I'm saying? So I mean like watching it happen everywhere now is like okay,

everybody's kind of finally seeing it with the fuck I'm seeing. Right. You know, because I mean in

very ultra patriotic songs after you're 9/11 and things like that. You know, we'll stick a boot up your ass to see American way touch it and I love those songs. And not because I mean after 9/11, everybody was so unified and everything like that. And it was just this moment where everybody could be like we're strong. You know, I mean, they might have got us that day. But we're going to come back and beat their ass, right? You know, but like the whole premise of like that movement has just

been feeding this like and stoking the flames of this movement. That's like, now we can control everything we can have it all and we can make everybody do what the fuck we want. You know, I'm saying.

“So like with with country music, I think it's gotten really like that's why you see the”

you know the aldeens of the world waving that American flag at these shows and saying if you don't like the way this country is get the fuck out of here, you know, or just leave and shit like that. When in reality, the reason I speak out about it, like the most American thing you can do is use your first amendment right to speak out against the injustices and things like that that you see in America. Yeah, right. So I mean, I'm right. Like I'm I feel like a patriot because I'm speaking out.

I feel like a patriot because it's my responsibility as an American to hold up

the idea of a land that was free for everybody in it. That's why I always say American

250 years ago, made it deal with us that this land would be the freest place on the earth and I'm here to make sure she holds up her end of the fucking bargain. I love it. I love it. Okay. How did her hit it? Billionaires. Fucking had it. That's that's my number one fucking public enemy. Eat the fucking rich. Is it amazing to you when you get an Epstein files and then you hear shit like Peter Tiel says and Elon mass the shit he posts? I'm like, what is it with being a billionaire

that just makes you fucking sociopathic? They're they're the worst fucking people on planet to have that much money and power and to fucking not help anybody with it is fucking insane and they'll go on these fucking tent like Elon Musk be like, oh yeah, since startling to Ukraine or whatever to help people. It's like great. You did one fucking thing. You could end world hunger right now.

“Yeah. You know what I mean like that that's that's the like people don't understand that's what I mean”

like people like conservatives like even in my hometowns and stuff like that they'll be like, well, you know they do work for their money. You don't think they should be fucking compensated for their money and I'm like maybe they should just work be worth like two or three billion dollars. Not fucking 700. Like do you understand how much like that's what I'm saying to these people? Do you understand how much a trillion fucking dollars is you can buy every NFL team NHL team MOB team and NBA team twice

and still have two hundred billion dollars left over. Yeah, it's crazy. It's like at first I just

thought it was you know like the submersible guys I was just like billionaires just get bored. But then they just get into this thing where they think they're smarter than everyone. Yeah. And they think everybody should be subservient to them and their ideas and Jennifer makes a great

“point all the time is that in the United States we equate like smart and all the positive attributes”

to a billionaire. And you know I was guilty of that with Elon Musk like before he'd I like 15 years ago I would have said he's really smart because I didn't know I knew we had a you know a green car company so it was like okay great and now I'm like this is one of the most diabolical fuckers on the planet. Yeah literally all he does is fucking hoard his money fucking he's a white supremacist and how to lay his sick house on a fucking inauguration stage and then tells you it's a

fucking room and saluter autistic sim. It's crazy. What do you think about him showing up with it with the black eye and the oval office? I mean I didn't even see that to be honest with you I've prepared just tried to tune out Elon Musk as soon as I saw the the first post he made it not too long ago about he re he re-shared somebody's tweet that said something about like when minorities become the majority white people will be like enslaved or some shit like that. I was like this fucking

idiot is literally out here just fucking pedaling shit so that white people feel empowered to hate people of color even more. Totally here's my thing what I want to scream about is when Donald Trump calls people of color racists and this whole regime is the most racist like you know the judge saying you cannot pull historical facts from federal buildings and parks because you don't like

them. Yes. It's the white washing of history that definition has never made more sense to me now

it just it empresses me that people actually defend it. Yeah I mean here's it let's just go through the

in his department buildings before he was in prison then while he becomes president says that

the civil rights act in 1964 is bad for white people shares a meme of the first African American

president and his wife on monkeys that is AI generated and then tries to remove history from Philadelphia parks and museums talking about slavery and you're trying to tell me this mother fucking racist this is what I mean people are like oh well racism doesn't exist anymore it's

“2026 both fucking shit I think it's worse yeah and like people that's why I'm saying people”

people don't want like people of color don't want you to be like a white apologists they don't want you to come out here and like when JD events has had dumb shit like oh you don't have to apologize for being white anymore nobody has fucking asked you to apologize for being white

they just want you to acknowledge that you are and that they might have a different experience

in America than you have based on one thing their skin color yeah no I and I'm super guilty of being raised and like I'm sure Missouri is the same way it's very homogeneous where I live it's segregated growing up I didn't realize how the difference in the treatment like police lawful you know like police stuff like over resting over charging all of those things of the black community because I was surrounded by the privilege of being white yeah again I'm ashamed of that I'm ashamed

that when those those things came to my attention as an adult that I didn't stand up immediately because I just let it slide or didn't want to offend anybody that kind of stuff you know and it's like

we are never ever going to fulfill our goals as a nation if we don't acknowledge and attempt to repair

the kind of racism that the black community has faced forever yeah exactly and it's a really just like this is why I have an extreme problem with people who are willing to ignore history like or just like be like oh it's not like it was back then or whatever like the similarities aren't really there well well and it's like yeah they fucking are in the problem with you not it acknowledging that they are is that you're leading us right down the fucking path that led them there back then you know what I'm saying

and so like for me you know I was one of my creator friends um his name is Judah on TikTok all the time uh his handle is both of these but he is a great he's an African American creator and he said something right after the Alex pretty shooting that really resonated with me because it's true and I'm guilty of this as well he said you know I just can't help but think that because there was mass outrage obviously after the the pretty shooting and the renegade shootings and stuff like that

as there should have been but he's like I can't help but think that if we just would have cared this much when the victims were only black and brown and none of this what had happened and he he's 100% right about that and I think about that quite a bit because I'm like dude that's so

“fucking true and like for me that's why I speak out on like especially during like black history”

month and things like that because the current president obviously doesn't think that we even need a black history month right on I'm saying so what I'm like when I'm trying to educate myself about those things I have to be able to speak out about the injustice that I see now because I have to believe before I go to sleep at night or I won't sleep at night that I would have stood up back then during the Jim Crow era or you know when I watched if I was alive during Rosa Parks or things like that

I have to believe that I would have stood up then too and stood in solidarity with those people so that they could have the freedoms that they wanted and needed and we're we're they should have been given right from the inception of this country right you know and so that's what I'm saying like when I when I think of things I have to be able to reconcile it with myself

“that I would have stood up back then because the truth is if I don't say nothing now when they're”

like trying to find a legal way to sit around these things and like trying to fool the public and stuff like that if I don't speak up now then I don't think I would have been you know so I'm like God yeah I agree with you how old are you 29 see I was not near a smart or wise or insightful I'm 56 and I came to all of these things like so late in my adulthood and I'm listening to you thinking how much better of a person would I've been if I would have pulled my head out of my

ass at 29 but no it was just shoved right up in that ass okay last time Brian Adams and then I want you to talk about your new song how did we hit it the United States of America

I've hit it because I think I think we're gonna start seeing real patriots sand up

“and I think we're gonna start seeing people fight for the idea like I said I've a land that is free”

for everybody and I think that you know as bad as this movement is I think that we our story doesn't stop here you know I mean and like it certainly doesn't stop for me you know so I think that when I think about if people are gonna start rising up and voting we've already seen that in some special elections you know and things like that so I think the pendulum is obviously

gonna swing regardless because it always does but I think you're gonna see one of the massive

most massive swings you we've seen in the last you know 40 50 years because this shit is so crazy right I mean we just we just bombed Iran to you know less than a week ago and I know people in my hometown that were like we don't need wars you know saying we don't need

“endless orders we need to fix ourselves and stuff like that so I think you're starting to see”

even like Republicans in small towns that are starting to go yeah maybe this isn't the vibe and you know not only that but doing other countries bidding for them right so I mean like I think that's a big problem yeah so I mean stuff like that I think that I've I've hit it with America because I think or the United States because I think we're going to come back from this and I think it'll take a lot of work but for me like the way that I've been feeling shut out and

things like that and and also in country music is that it's our time and I feel pride in the fact that I'm going to be able to use my platforms and you know try to organize people and get people together and unite together around but one common goal of a land that should be free for everybody in it. I love it okay tell us where we can find you people that are new you how do we find you. Yeah you can find me anywhere you listen music at Brian Andrews like Spotify,

Apple music all the stuff but on social media all my handles or at Brian Andrews music so just anywhere anywhere you get all your information or do your social media you know I know that TikTok is kind of you know yeah yeah yeah yeah so which is so heartbreaking to be honest with you because I mean TikTok used to be like the video town square I guess you know like where people could just come on and like just literally just put a camera to your face and and you're you're making content that

somebody hasn't seen before you know and you can find your niche audiences and really build a community and stuff like that but it feels like now it's so mega adjacent that it's hard you know especially

“as a liberal country or see now it's hard to make content on there but I mean Instagram I think is”

is doing a lot better it's all the the problem is all these companies are run by billionaires who

have given money or sport downtown so yeah now it's really scary when you see the list of it it kind of takes your breath away yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah what you're like with your new song release yeah yeah what you're nothing but the best in the future I think your voice is so important thank you for coming on we appreciate it and I just best of luck on everything and listener we will see you next Tuesday and Thursday okay listen up Patriots Patriots Patriots

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