Ross Mathews on 90 Day Fiancé, Catfishing and Hollywood

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for you today. I'm going to catch you up on some hot topics, and then I get into even more funny hot topics with one of your favorites. The infamous fabulous Roths Matthews, we get into 90 day fiancée in which he hits hosting the reunion, as well as many fun memories from our past

and Juicy things from the Drew Barrymore show to Insight scoop in Hollywood. So first, let me give you

some more scoop that came out just a couple days ago in the world of Bravo. So many people are speculating, will Vanderpump rules with the new cast? Are they coming back or not? It's still up in the air, and the reason people are questioning it is because they announced that Lisa Vanderpump has a brand new show about her life running her restaurants in Las Vegas, which I have said, would have been great. I'm not saying I'm a genius. I'm just saying I do think this is great. I love

Las Vegas as far as a genre of television and film. It is just such an interesting place. It's fun and exciting to pressing aspiring. I don't know what other people will be featured in it, but like I said in the past when I've manifested this, just manifesting mama. I said you could have an aspiring comedian. You could have an aspiring aerialist. You could have an aspiring magician actor, model, you know, just pretty girl looking to various sugar daddy. I don't know all

working at the restaurant, and I'm hoping they found those interesting characters. The name is great.

“Lisa Las Vegas, like the Las Vegas. So I think it's going to be great. I predict that”

unfortunately, I don't think Vanderpump will come back. The original one with the new cast. It just seemed to get very little buzz. I didn't even realize that they had a reunion. They did. So, there you go with that. There's also another new show called, let me read that, secret lies, Texas wives. It's kind of taking off the name of the hunting wives, which was such a hit, the scripted show from Netflix about gun-toting, bisexual, late-in-life lesbians that also have

husbands and are God-fearing women and wigs. There is a place called Boring Texas, and they're supposedly all from there, and they live a life while working on a ranch. I'm getting some insights scoop about this show that not everybody is exactly from born, or they don't live on ranches. That is

and remember Kim Richards didn't live in Beverly Hills either when the show started. So,

“of Real House is Beverly Hills. So, there you go. There's also going to be some short vertical”

shows. We've talked a lot about vertical shows lately in Hollywood, which is basically a shorter

episodic show that you watch, like you would vertically on your phone, like a TikTok, one Madison from Southern charm. It's going to have one where she's doing people's hairs, hair, and putting in their weave while they tell them some great confessional thing. I mean, I just want to say, do you imagine if, like, you spill your beans, okay, about having an affair on your husband, or something real juicy, or real confessional, that you would tell your hairdresser,

and you give it all for a free weave on a vertical show. Like, you're not even on a regular peacock show. You're not making the most of it like Risa Tisa, you know, that got 12 deals from telling her awful story about her husband on TikTok and the 10-minute long form. So, I'm guessing, though I love Madison, she's very pretty. I'm guessing the confessional are very produced, and they're not any life-changing juice in which someone's life would be ruined. So, but fun little idea,

“and I think there's a version of that too, a couple other ones. We know the Gen Z, the next Gen”

kids of children from real housewives are there going to be doing LA. I don't know when that's coming out, but so those are a little bit there, and they're doing like a one-day fan fest, mini-browicon in Charlotte. So, those are the big news out of that. Doreet and PK. My God, this is just continuing on and on. I don't know who to believe. People are wondering, how does Doreet make this

much money? He says she makes 3.3 million. He makes 3.2 million a year. She spends all the money on

the clothes. He spends his life living like a popper, but spending all the money on the kids, and you know, but nobody bothered to spend the money on the mortgage. And now their house is in for closure, and it's like a few days away. So, I want to know how much was the mortgage payment.

“How, you know, in her defense, she said, that was his job, and I kept in their text saying”

that she keeps asking about it. He's like ignore that letter. It doesn't mean anything, and he's saying he wants the world to know that she is a shopaholic of major desire things. She spent like a million dollars over a four-month period or something like that. So, you know, what it reminds me of? Betty Prouderick. Betty Prouderick, I'm not accusing anyone of going down the Betty Prouderick route, but when she was going through her divorce,

she was spending like crazy, um, desire clothes just to spend the money that was still theirs

together before it was separated. Now, it appears that Dorit always spent this way, and she just

was continuing to do it. Um, I don't know. I don't know if it's a hoarding situation or what. The next exciting news is so many of you have asked me, what was my Netflix as a joke, live juicy scoop, like you were sad, you couldn't get tickets, it sold out right away. The audience was absolutely fantastic. So many of you reached out and said it was one of your favorite shows you've attended of mine, and that means so much to me, and now I'm very excited to say

that I am doing what you guys have asked for, and I will be releasing the extremely edgy juicy episode of that live show that we recorded just last week on my Patreon this Friday. You go to patreon.com/juicy scoop to make sure that you are signed up, and you will get that on Friday, and it's so funny, and it's very edgy, you know. So if that is not for you, then you wouldn't be a juicy scoop or anyway. I know you're not going to say, let's do much for me. You're going to

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10 years, all commercial free. Thank you. Little more on Summer House, oh my God, they show a

talked about with this West character. There is the woman he's currently with, Amanda, who was

“married to Kyle. There's also a clip from this past episode where they're hugging and kissing,”

and they say I love you. Like a hug and like a kiss on a cheek, and it's a long embrace, it's tits against chest, it's boner against crotch, it's embracing, it's snuggling in the neck, with your platonic friend while you're married, who is also screwing or had been screwing your friends, Sierra, and the I love you just flows off the lips. They have claimed that nothing

was going on during the summer, sexually. Well, of course, people don't believe it. My first thought

when I saw this was, can someone check on Jen Fessler, the real housewives of New Jersey, woman who Sierra accused of also sleeping with West. She has denied it. She said that West

“called her and spoke to the family and said, I don't, I'm so sorry. I don't know how this crazy”

rumor got started, but then also they showed a preview at the up front, which is all the advertisers in which Kyle reveals that West has also had a full-on relationship with a whole other woman this past year. So we might even be cheating on Amanda with her, who the hell knows? And then we see next week, he makes out with Sierra again. I mean, this guy, it's a fascinating situation and I've talked a lot about it, and we even talked about it more at the live show, which you want to get.

Also, according to the New York Post, it's an exclusive. Meghan Markle is basically the bread

winner. Yeah, we know that. And the funds are tight, and she's focusing on growing her as ever lifestyle, a range after recently parting weeds with Netflix. Money is tight. How is she going to do it? Well, they were just at Disneyland. I don't know that they got free tickets. All the photos were taken hiding the children's identities, shooting them from the back. So obviously, she allowed people to come with her and was like, show these photos. Let's get it out that that we're just

acute, family. And they even had a moment where the little girl, little bit, gets to meet the

Disney princesses. And I'm like, what a shame. She even know that her mom at one time was a

princess. She's going to Disneyland waiting in a hot, sweaty line with a bunch of commoners. When she, in fact, is a princess or could have been, had they not left? I'm telling you guys, I predicted the Las Vegas Lisa Vanderpum show. Meghan Markle is going to be on something that features her kids and her husband sooner than we think, whether it's a ensemble type show reality something she's going to have to pin out those kids, which I think is crazy because the whole

thing was privacy privacy privacy privacy, the privacy tour, our kids need to stay private. We're not safe without 24 security yet you're going to Disneyland and we know what's coming because you don't have a deal with that. Looks anymore. So good luck to you. Jamie Foxe is going to be a dad again. He has a beautiful blonde girlfriend who I looked up the age of her anything from 22 or 30. He is 58. She is young and beautiful and she is having his baby. And I'm sure they're very happy

“together. All of that's so interesting. Remember when he dated Katie Holmes for like two years?”

That was a weird match. He has a 33 year old daughter and a 17 year old daughter from two different relationships and we wish them luck. He's he's got a bunch of pickleball courts on his property that I played out that are real fun and I'm sure his kid will get a free paddle out of it. All right you guys now I'm very excited to talk to my dear friend Ross Matthew. It's like two old gals laughing it up and remembering things and getting into some juicy scoop and here we are

with the television personality and everybody's best friend Ross Matthews. I have one of my favorite people on earth. He's really grown up. He's really become a huge star from intern to host to the star of the Drupary War Show, Drag Race and now host of TLC's 90-day single life. Is that the title of the

manifesting a dream come true. I know listen Heather it's like I would watch 90-day fiance I have since season one right and I would talk at the TV you know me I mean I'm an engaged viewer I'm invested and I just wouldn't shut up about this show and I talked about my social media and I talked about on the Drew show and I just kept talking about it because I love it and then cut to now and I'm hosting the tell-all it is like I'm crawled into my favorite show it's it's like

a dream and how did the offer come about? You want to know the nitty gritty? I do I kind of want to know like was it just like you know you've saw an email or was it something else? There was an email and then I was like you know I had a tiger I knew that this was the gig I knew that I wanted this

“you know and so I just convinced them I think and the truth is Heather you know like there”

are some things that I know I'm not meant for you know like I'm like I'm not I'm not gonna be good at that and this I just knew what I knew of my bones you know when I was a little kid I used to watch read just in Kathy Lee with my mom and I remember being I just was like I know I'm gonna do that I want to do that you just you know things I just knew it that this was gonna happen everyone's got that one friend who's always wearing the cutest outfits and you're like where did you get that can

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“explain the sizing and answer any question I think it's such a fun way to get something fun and”

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to work on a show like that I got it like and look at it and look at me now no but truthfully look at you know but seriously like you know what I mean you are doing like the 2026 version of that in your way you're doing we do feel things in our bones I also love when you said manifest because

I've never you know I guess I do put the man in manifest don't I yes you're married man still

“like I think one of the funnest destination weddings I ever had the pleasure of going to”

such fun people is so beautiful I love it right there in your yellow dress you look so pretty it was one of the best weddings in the history of time it just was so fun everyone was in a great mood the energy was the best you know and how many years are you guys celebrating now are you like for really four was our four anniversary like the last week still going strong it's the best mayor you know I'm so I really just think my husband is the shit you know and I think that that's

the key I he's like smarter than me in different ways I'm smarter in a couple maybe like one other way but you know we really like he keeps you on my toes he thinks I'm the shit too but he also like nudges me a little bit I just feel like a better version of myself than I've been you know I just think maybe that's growth that's getting older but I like it I like how I'm how I'm aging I did too now I remember when you told me how you met and you did meet in part of our art

of right on a vacation you're on a vacation you met there yeah we met like the pilgrims used to you know in person on vacation in part of our art like no apps just like no just like old school

so do you think in your fascination of 90 day fiancee because I always feel like 90 day fiancee

proves that I don't care where you stand politically but there are people all over this world that will fuck some of our ugliest citizens to become an American and we need to be grateful to be American you're such a pessimist you are such a pessimist but no I'm just saying like you see

thing of like they get to be on TV too so imagine you want to come to America and you think

when you think of America you think of Hollywood and then they meet somebody and then the opportunity comes to meet and to pursue this romance and beyond TV it's like a triple header and then we get to sit back and watch it sometimes it does work out you know but it's very it is so much fun and you know there's been so many seasons and so many variations of it but do you think had you not found the love of your life? Would you have ever sought out

you know someone from another country? Well that's a very interesting question okay so for starters you are a pessimist the way you view it because this is how I view 90 day I view that their love

“has no borders like you don't even have like no I totally think I think it's but I'm saying”

the an appeal has to be that this person from another country has a dream of possibly be living in America but then they do it the other way too which is fun I do like the other way too yeah here's the deal I don't know that it's all about getting to America but I do know that there are certain hurdles that that are just in place when you when you fall in love with somebody from another country do what would I have been open to it absolutely listen I love my my

wellington you know that I like my my my husband but I if I found somebody you know like say you know online or something like I was like dating you know it's like let me fly over there and meet them like I I would have been open to it I wouldn't have let a boundary keep me from somebody you know what do you think about sort of the cat fishing element of dating someone in another country that can happen to people unforgivable listen perfect example of this is

would be Jenny and submit if you watch 90 day fiance when when Jenny first started dating submit

and by the way they have been together and now happily married for I don't know eight years I mean like a long time I know what the couple you're talking about she is white right yes from Palm Springs yes and where was he from again India okay okay yes they went to the horse man when they first met they were talking and he was using a different picture right and then you know king clean and like

“I would have been out outright away you should you give me a different picture I I don't care like”

I'm you don't have to be a 10 you know I mean I'm lucky that I married a 10 but like you don't have to be a 10 to get with this you know say there's been a few less than 10s along the way so I wouldn't have to but if you lie to me you're out immediately but look they they were able to get over that little that little bump but cat fishing I think is a red flag red total red like there are so many red flags I wish I could you know what I wish I could help people dating

I would love to be like a wingman for people I am really good at it I date it for a long time I liked dating I liked it yeah you know and I wish I could help people through it people should ask me a DM at hello Ross I will help you with your dating life for free yeah I think that you

“yeah I think that you do give great advice I do you know you've lived such a life”

you know you started out just a little boy washing region and it was Kathy Lee at the time and then you became Ross the intern which is really was an intern that you came on camera can you believe Heather that was 25 years ago that I started on Leno 25 years ago

that's amazing and then you know we met on Chelsea lately and you know had great chemistry though

I accept that a guy as fabulous as you has great chemistry with other women besides just me and it's hard when you realize that there's other women out there like I'm a gay woman I sir aren't I you are you but more than anybody else I think that you have I mean you and and all the girls that you have cheated on me with I also adore so I think as a serial gay womanizer you actually have a great picker so I appreciate it and a great great what picker oh picker you pick great women

I thought you said I okay I thought you said picker no I didn't bring that to picker yeah

hit it and quit it I didn't quit you Heather no you have long term you're like you're like

Cody from Sister-Wise you have maybe women I was gonna say like Warren Warren Jeff you know of Warren Jeff you're doing that guy that who had like multiple wives you know I'm definitely the him of gay womanizers without yeah without you know without the they're they're like the the child breaks I don't do that you don't you don't you don't do under age anything so that's nice no that is nice isn't that nice yeah you said you have such a great chemistry but really

“so perfect for drill thank you the show has been on now for how many years gosh you know honestly”

we just finished our six season and we just got picked up for season seven and eight and how do you know you know how difficult that is in daytime TV and this it has nothing to do with me honestly it has to do with with Drew it because she in those years when it wasn't easy when we were like on the bubble I think the powers that be said if anyone's gonna pop through it's going to be Drew because she's got a work ethic she's got an iconic you know she's iconic and she's that iconic

name recognition and I think they've just took a chance on her and I will tell you if you're gonna take a chance on someone take a chance on your Barrymore because she's real deal she you matter she's though real yeah she was your flower girl at the wedding and she is you know a total delight truly genuine and we know now that authenticity is where it's at whether you're

“an influencer or reality star or a talk show host and I think that you know it started when you”

guys started it was you were a covid show yeah do you know the whole story that do you know how it started let me tell you yeah tell so it was covid it was September 2020 my mom had just passed away remember back in May I had met Wellington right before the pandemic and then we were like okay bye I got like you know like six miles I was like on LA he was in New York and we were like zoom dating right and so eventually in that in September I was like I'm gonna go to New York I didn't know

you're anything and I knew her producer so I he was my friend Chris I had Chris Miller he he's now the tonight show EP show runner and I was like do you want to get a drink when I'm in New York you know and so he was he said oh my god Drew just started the show and she's alone in the studio there was no audience remember back then yeah it wasn't even mass audience no audience and she would like talk to celebrities on a computer right it was just was tough and she was lied and he said

would you come and do the news with her one day and I was like he said if I can get you cleared

“through all the covid things you have to do let me you know so I did he got me cleared and I went”

did the the her show once and it was like you know she was a little lost in that studio and I was lost in life because I was cracked open after my mom and it was like two people who needed somebody I can't explain anything else but right away it was like brother sister right away and

they asked me to come back the next day and the next day and I never went home until the end of

that season and then I've been there ever since it was one of those things that maybe my mom did it or something but there's there's something magical about about the connection and the timing and and I don't know what would have happened with Wellington and I if we would have been married so soon if if I hadn't moved to New York then and at all of this had happened you know right yeah everything always works out the way it's supposed to be now I think it's funny because

when you started out and it was covid and you couldn't touch anyone but then she really popped off because people the viral videos of how she likes to really get in the lap literally of her guess yes and you know she's a great sense of humor out of but that is her and she doesn't stop that but it's now it's continued ever it's just her her vibe was there ever it's like yeah yeah I know what you're gonna ask was there ever a time when like the notes came in the focus

groups don't do that or you thought or yeah was there ever any discussion about it or even a guest that was like I loved her but that would make me uncomfortable to talk that closer everyone just wants her her perfect little cute face at like you know that I can't speak to what everybody wants you know I think if like I don't know that there's ever been a guest who didn't want to be up close I think people are kind of like yeah I mean she's her you want to like you

I mean it's authentic and it's also like you don't get to see someone that famous that often you

know what I mean yes but I will say like it wasn't lost on everyone when like at first it was

being kind of made fun of that she was a person with everybody but two like the power of her

be who you are especially on daytime television that that is not about a set up punchline daytime

television is about opening your soul up I know that that sounds cheesy but really it's about like this is who I am warts and all and so they just like dug in and now it's become like what could have

“been a like cringy the thing is just an identifiable mark of how she does this job and I think that's”

another reason why it's working I that's a lesson for all of us just like just lean into who you the fuck you are just be you and like people don't like it they can change channel yes and obviously it's it's working out perfectly and you're working for you too look at you I can you know how proud I am of you I watch you know I love you and I'm your friend but like just as like somebody who like sees what you're doing I'm so proud of you because you have done that too you really are and I think

everybody listens to this and watches you knows that and I know how hard that is to do to make that choice just to be all in on yourself and I just wanted to your tutor and would thank you I love that and you know true Heather we did a talk show pilot together we did and I love that show by the way I feel like it could have been better but I was doing Chelsea late the same time it was kind of a it was fine it was called love it or hate it um love or hate love it or hate it it was one of those

I thought it was love yeah it was love or hate yeah and it was like hot topics to you love it you hate it let's debate it but if you think about that really can't go on forever will it could

of it could have always like I guess you could always love or hate it I can have like a

segment just go call over hate but then after that I want to do it with you and we just do it here instead of on e because we would get more um people would be it all right let's just do a love

“it or hate it right out okay let's do it secret lives of Mormon wives love it and now they're doing”

ones in like the O.C. do you like these girls dancing around and they're messing us or do you never seen it so clearly I hate it not making it's way to me in my algorithm I don't know is it worth there there's so much out there and I'm a little busy with 90 day I have to tell you there's a lot of episodes and I'm not cheating on 90 day is it worth it right you really have so much time your life exactly I'm a human right when it comes to wanting to re-fresh your wardrobe

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full disclosures met ball have you ever gone to the met ball or been invited I have been outside the met ball I covered it two years ago and I used the port of potty and

no but I've never been inside but I will say Anna winter in the middle of a sentence she was talking

“she stopped what she was saying and looked at me and said I love your jacket”

come on that's pretty good it was pretty great yeah no cameras were late the time all right I want to ask you also you've had quite the relationship with your body changing so you when we first saw you you were a jolly kind of heavy set heavy set type young guy and then you lost weight and then you maybe gained a little bit back but you've now been a slim gym stylish dude for I don't know probably like what like seven years where you've been

besides and maintained it and and so great with your recipes and using you know the healthy ways of you know healthier food and exercise and everything how do you feel about now you know there are so many people now are having such great success with getting the jump start with the GLP ones and all of that I just wanted to kind of hear your opinion of it and what you think going on with with that and Hollywood and are some people taking it too far okay well okay I have

so many thoughts and I've never ever really talked about it it was a very ask me about this this

was great about you Heather is you go there all right let's go there so my health journey started in 2020 after my mom died and I was like the biggest gift I could give her is to get my own shit together so I can stick around on this planet for as long as possible so that was my my why and

“I think you have to find your why and then you figure out the how so my why was that my how was like”

I got to start cooking for myself that was my recipes now listen this is back in 2020 you would hurt maybe of those epic but it wasn't something that was available right I wish I would have done no zampic and people use it as a shame like whenever I'll post a picture and people will be like ozampic queen ozampic like you're trying to shame what I did it but like to had I would be seeing it from the rooftops like there should be absolutely no shame in this listen it is hardy enough

to figure out how to be a healthy grown up you know what I'm saying I'm not alone in that it is difficult especially when you have an unhealthy relationship with food and something that helps you with that that they say with the studies doesn't hurt you knock knock knock hopefully that's true that there's no terrible side effects 20 years down the line but we should not be shaming people if there's if you have a headache you take a Tylenol like there are things make things easier

if you have cancer you to chemo for a reason this is an issue that people have I know I had it and so I hate that people shame people that use it and I especially hate that people try to use it to shame me when I don't even do it do you feel that you know that once you changed to be fit and then gorgeous model that you are yes no longer a plus size model

did anybody be like you're not as funny now you know that always happens with someone who

is funny and a little bit fuller people seem to think that is what is one of the things that makes

people thought that I don't know I don't know people thought that maybe they did but I'll tell you it

does take away your own punchline you know I always there are certain things I could always like

if I didn't have an observational punchline there was always like oh through the gallens or through the fat lens right and they're you know self-deprecating thing so when you take that away you are taking away a weapon you know in just like a comedic weapon and so it was funny it's like your body changes but your mind there's a delay before your mind catches up with where your body is and I would be like you know writing jokes or even in the moment saying jokes from that point of

“view and the audience was not laughing or responding I was like oh my god Ross you need to catch”

up with with who you are now and so so that was the bigger shift that I felt whether people think I'm funny or not I don't one I can't control and two what do you do yeah and then how do you

feel about you know now being a silver fox like going full natural gray I never did anything other

than let it just be what it was you know and so I don't know I always thought it was kind of great is it jarringly gray now should I die I just feel I know I feel it looks good and I think we should start that I think it's really hard for guys with short hair to die it and I don't think you should I mean here's going for me a hero no I mean here's gone full white and there was a time where you know there was a little whatever the gray men and a box or whatever it's called or does that

call just for men great men and a box yeah and then one day it was just like oh fuck it and it's like it is great and then I saw the episode where they brought in the famous hairdresser and Valor Burton Ellie and Drew yeah so they put gray wigs on them and I mean I think when the hair is great hair and your makeup is done you it is a cool look the natural gray for some people I think

“it could be real listen yes I think you should do whatever you want to do period blanket statement okay”

I will tell you going gray wasn't like a decision that I made I just am kind of too lazy and I guess I didn't realize until recently that it's this gray because people start whenever I would see someone like you who I didn't see in a while people go like love your hair and for a while like and tell I mean like really recently like weeks ago I thought like oh they noticed that I kind of grew it out a little because it's longer on the top yeah I didn't realize they were saying that because

it has gotten Santa white like you just don't see your own Santa coming out it never I didn't see it

and then when you say it and I look I'm like oh I guess so but um anyway that's my point of view now Drew looks great deval looked great with gray hair they it'd be hard to look bad but I will say like it is much harder for women because like let's say for example you are Jennifer Aniston all of a sudden were like I'm gonna do it I'm gonna go like when does Jennifer Aniston go great does she just like ever or does she just come out one day or she'd start you know that when you

know they have like the skunk stripe and they just let it grow it's like a half so then a half and you just do it and figure it out will she ever go great will you ever go great I don't know because you know you're really good friend Nicky Boyer yeah she rocked it you know creator of dying for sex he body award winner for dying for sex I mean I'm genuinely played her in them I am so proud of

“Nicky Boyer I think she's an Italy right now in vacation a well deserved vacation um she's amazing”

and yes she did decide to go gray and it was a whole process and even some of our close friends gave her shit for going gray really yes I I see I think I can see it it looks yeah for me not there yet I don't know when I'll be there but I say anyway I think it's a cool thing that's really working for for people and so much harder for women than men it's same thing about with weight I know yeah no one in ever in Hollywood ever gave me an issue for my weight ever ever ever and

meanwhile like I know these women who I was standing within the red carpet were getting pressure I know it the gray hair was the same thing so that's unfair yeah now it's and now it's the the criticism of oh now everyone's tooth in you know it used to be you're heavy then okay you know then there's some bitterness of when someone that they admire that was a little fuller figure they get to a

just like let me just do what's right for me you know like again let me just do what's right for me

I understand when people get tooth in though I do because um and by tooth and I want to do air quotes right um because it also it is a weird game you know like you feel like in control when you're at a certain number you know I remember I got to like 165 and I was like this is probably five pounds tooth in and this is perfect right and then now I'm at like 173 because it's like the neighborhood and I feel like oh's it grows so my grows so my grows because I'm not like 165 so

it's like I understand where you if you get that low you think if you get above that at all you feel like

“it's more about the scale as opposed to your body you know and like I think that's the struggle”

sometimes it's this this like self imposed thing what was that what was the reality show that you did

about weight loss that was a nightmare this was back in what 2004 or five it was called Celebrity Fit Club and they asked me to do it a bunch oh it was like on Leno a couple years I had no contract I was making like $500 every couple months like nothing and um they called me like do you want to be on the show where you lose weight and I was like absolutely not like and they said it pays whatever it paid and I said what time should I be there and so I did it and when I showed

up it was like me and screech um Tiffany this thing I think we're alone now right all these things and when I got there nobody knew who I was and Tiffany asked me to get her a water because she thought you're a PA and you know what I did got her water I got her water and then she's like wait why are you getting makeup to go do a jump jump jump jackers of me yes why are you getting jumped up to kayak against a brat well Tiffany because they're paying me to anyway so I like it was

the first time I ever lost weight and I just starved myself because they would you know what a great

diet is weighing in every week on national television that's a great diet um so I just didn't need anything and I lost 40 pounds and the second it was older over I ordered two a large dominoes thin crust because I was on a diet pizza and I finished them because I was starving and then the weight came weight plus came on you know like there was no um conversation about my health at all it was about can you lose more weight than more in McCormick oh my god wait so when you want it right

“you want it of course uh Heather of course how much was it that you lost total do you remember”

41 pounds I know exactly 41 and how many days uh six weeks or something I mean really not good Heather like too fast unhealthy I just was like I got that was and that was before the controversial show that they just did the doc on where they weigh the people what was that called the best loses or yes that was before biggest the same time same time right I mean what 2004 yeah seven five I something like that and awful awful awful awful awful but the check cleared

and it wasn't even like life changing money but at the time it was like what my mother made in a year I remember yeah because you're and you're young and oh my god I was 24 and like just figuring it out and you know this business like you know you figure you meant I was gonna be on TV for a couple months you know and like when you got your own talk show yes hello Ross hello Ross it was was once a week once a week Friday nights Friday nights and it was under the Chelsea umbrella you were

on like the floor above or below us yeah and you know I mean that must have just been like a major pinch remomen yeah but when you when you find out it's not gonna continue yeah what was like the how what was your thought process was it was like bigger than bigger and better or what was

“that for you don't completely devastated because one like you know readjust remember yeah that was the”

goal the north star yeah so in a way I thought like oh I did it you know and we were on for two seasons and then it went away for multiple reasons you know they're like Chelsea was leaving the network for a bunch of reasons and whatever and I remember thinking like like I'm over this is it I went to Palm Springs and I painted the cabinets in my kitchen and I painted like all the walls in the house I just was like what color white black you're just gonna go black no white like white

to bright white and I just my friend Tay I came over and she's like what are you okay and I just

she was my best friend Tay I still my best friend from elementary school high school we wrote

Chelsea lately my book together so it was just just a brilliant ride to produce her she's just brilliant and so that's hard too that you like have you hired some friends oh all the final college roommate was a producer on it tonight show people came over on staff because that was ending and and stuff and there were just you know that's the burden you feel too when you lead a team like that is like not only is your dream dying but like all these people are now out of work yeah yeah and so

I I worried and I put a bunch of weight on and I just worried like what I ever work again or did I ever did I want to did I want to ever have something like that again that I could lose again it's almost

like when you win someone breaks your heart yeah do I want to get in a relationship again and I

“took a long time and it wasn't to Hollywood today live you remember there was this show that I”

did that you were on yeah it wasn't tell that that I thought oh I I can still do this yeah but it was it was a real I should have gone to therapy I didn't but I should have yes yeah and I remember like yeah that is really hard and then we had fun on that Hollywood's day alive and uh Garsell was on it yeah it was me and Garsell buffet and uh Ali Landry Tanner Thomas and Amanda Salas who's on good day LA Kristen Brockman yeah it was a great show anyway I love doing that

and then you know and then that I do that for a couple years and then you know but the thing is Heather you know you kind of have to count on like bank on yourself that you'll figure it out so now getting to your latest venture with the 90 day single life reunion on the tell all the

“tell all and so tell us so these people that are the favorites over the seasons that are no longer”

with their love they go explore single life yeah so what happens is you know we watch a lot of people on 90 day fiancee whether it's the the OG show or the other way we see people fall in love and try to make a relationship work now what happens is we really care for these people like you

get and I get invested in them now the relationship doesn't always or usually work out we're the

long run okay but some of the people who become fan favorites that we really root for they get put on if they choose to they get put on the single life where we can see them afterwards what happens when they're back out they're dating and so there are major fan favorites on there's Pedro there's Sophie there's um cult cult is my favorite cult is oh what happened is what happened to his

“ex well there were a few there's been a bunch the brunette girl that got a lot of plastic surgery”

you're gonna have to be more specific okay um so anyway he when we find him we had just seen him in hunt for love which is this other's been off um he and Courtney have this connection so when we see them at the beginning of the season he and Courtney are dating the Courtney's another fan favorite and they're an odd match and he had a major injuries been living in her house and taking care when they can't have sex um and then it turns out he's been cheating on her this is what played out

uh over the season with this woman from Brazil named Diana on text so they sort of break up and he she kicks him out of she's living with her parents in retirement center kicks him out and then he has to get surgery and so in a fast forward a couple months you see him living all of the she lives with her parents and had cult living with them in a retirement community or is that even allowed? Heather what am I on the HOA I don't know

speak to your local representative I can't be bothered with that so okay he's living with her and her parents in a retirement home oh right now he's been doing there's more he this is what this is what the played out during the season or she kicks him out because you cheat on me like you don't have like anyway he goes apart to pissing yes yeah he goes and lives with the girl that he was cheating on her with in Brazil for a bit but then he has to come back to the states

to get a surgery so we fast forward a couple months we see him in a house and he walks out and like greets his roommate who is the 66 year old man named Phil now it turns out that Phil is Courtney's new boyfriend he lives in the same retirement center as her parents okay and Phil and a cult is now living with them we just saw recently that well I don't know that I can ruin anything but they are all gonna be on the teller okay I don't have to tell you it's so good

these other connections with all the other people that are gonna be there I really did my research

I really took this seriously Heather because you know I love this show and I wanted to do a good job for the fans I wanted to give them a teller that delivered you know accountability and answers and drama and twist and turns and surprises and I have to tell you as a fan I got everything

“I wanted including a walkoff you know I mean you have to have a walkoff so I got so upset”

and the reason they got so upset is something that I didn't even know was coming it's a real shocker oh good well I mean I can I can see it now you did you have a hard time deciding what snazzy suit to wear there are lots of opinions lots of it it's I knew what I was gonna wear I knew it

and it just took a second for everyone to arrive there but I would have worn I didn't care what I wore

I truly Heather they said wear Mrs. Roper's MoMo I would have been like great let's go I just put me in there I really didn't care but I loved this final suit it's a Brooks Brothers rich almost cold ball blue with the blue and white syrup tie it's the perfect thing to wear and the teller and I really hope you watch is teller because I think definitely I'm watching you did a really good job I really had a lot of fun with it there's May 18th and May 25th on TLC and it's like I don't know

“you feel free to watch every episode leading up if you want to but I also recap a ton so if you haven't”

watched every episode you can still watch the teller and get everything the living at the retirement community is so fascinating to me because I remember years ago you said you identified as an active senior citizen to this day I have a book treatment that I want to turn in and called active senior citizen how to guide I think it is a great idea because I have lived my life that way I wear a sensible slip on shoe I don't have time for laces plus it's dangerous and hip injury is

the for anyway so I do that I love a happy hour that's a little bed time what time do you like to it dinner oh it's a 545 would be the kind of the latest we've been to the restaurant I've been you know those those commercials like open open open for merverses or marshals that yeah that's me at the restaurant at 445 when I know they can serve me a martini I'm there you may not be open but it's the bottle's right there I love an early dinner I love pre sunset golden hour we've had dinner at five

I know we have no I always always love the the there's a five now I am sad that you're no longer

a resident in the Palm Springs area but I get why it doesn't make sense I give a beautiful home on the east coast and the dream home on the east coast I have to say I love my house here I never want to leave it we have an apartment in the city I don't even go to the city I just for work but you know I love I love where I live now but I would spend the night at the city apartment during the the week with through I'm supposed to yes what do you mean you're supposed to I'm supposed to that was the intention

when purchased but I don't and so how long does it take you to get from the Drew Studio to the regular house a 51 minutes oh that's so I just do that exactly and so we're selling the apartment is the point I love the house but when I had the house you know I was in Palm Springs forever ever and I kept it for three years when I moved here and then I had been back maybe twice because I just couldn't and I was like this is such a waste of money I I can't so luckily it appreciated and I I I earned

that money back that I had wasted you know not living and I whatever but I I haven't been back to Palm Springs since I drove away after we sold the house because it is my home and it would just hurt my feelings it would just hurt me too much to be there and not live there what that's so stupid

“I know what this is what you guys need to do you need to come and stay at one of your favorite hotels”

okay and I don't know I feel like it's running into an X that that I know I'm gonna end up with you know what I mean that's that's how I feel about Palm Springs like it hurts too bad to see them right you're afraid you're like one one screw will will be too much and you won't be able to give it up and you're dating on your work what I what I know about Palm Springs is that we're meant to be and board just in different places right now you know what I mean and I'm afraid of I see Palm

Springs I won't be able to resist Palm Springs you know I just had did her with Martin

pictures and everybody dressed up like from that era right now and none of that shit is happening

where I live now you know where I live now you know who I oh my god Heather I live like minutes from Martha Stewart and I see her all the time and we do dinners I had New Year's Eve dinner with Martha Stewart what did she serve did she cool no we went to a restaurant they're just five of us around the table it was it was it was it's wild it's wild and magical and she's the other reason I'm like hesitating out because I'm looking up at the you can see me right now I'm looking

up and thinking of myself like should I shut up because I don't want her to find out that I talked

“about this and have it end you know I'm like should I just shut up right now I think it's just saying”

you had dinner at a restaurant where witnesses were like it's okay acting like you slept with her or something I'm not oh my god she's another woman that I have woman eyes now okay woman eyes because it's just you just have like you just have a gift and it's okay and you know it's it is what it is your your loyal to one man you're not loyal to anyone and it's it's what you are it's a version of being polyamorous in a gay land it's very complicated it's you know what how much sense you make it's

like yeah it's really weird from Martha Stewart to be yeah it's amazing wait okay now I think we need to

plan for I want to be your house guest up here yeah would you like to see what's for real yeah like come to New York and like what give me a day in the life if I come and we have like a Saturday like fabulous I'm an early riser too early riser so our house is so it's like super private it just trees all around we're up like on a hill we have a phenomenal pool like in the rocks where like there's a struggling that goes down into the from like into the hot tub that into the

pool like beautiful do you hate your pool of what am I what a meanderthal my god Heather are you okay that I'm being all day if it's warm okay yeah it's what trust me it's warm

so um we so we would we would we would do that we probably wake up I would make you a frittata

“okay we're not doing crust is not a key okay it's a frittata love or frittata okay”

and then we would probably do a dip we just have to like pre-shower let's just get in like it's nice out let's get in the pool right quickly and then while we're floating I would like be like what do you want to do today okay we're gone I feel like we then get cute yeah and then we do we do lunch off campus of course we don't even need lunch we just get to like a snacky poo and walk around whatever the cute area is that has some shops does that exist we would do lunch

I'm sorry but I get low blood sugar we would do lunch okay good but we would have a cocktail lunch and I would tell you you know where I'm going to bring you Heather I'm going to bring you to my favorite antique mall done okay where Lera Spencer has a booth okay love it yeah

“and we will and we'll buy a little something for you okay just a little something like something”

not big that you can bring home but like something like soon whenever you look at you were like oh my god this is from when I visited Ross and Wellie and yeah so let's get you something and then I go like now let's go back to the pool great and I would tell you in the pool I'd be like wanting in the mood for do you want to like invite a couple of people in barbecue do you want to go somewhere fabulous no I at that point I want to have fun dinner party exciting people

yeah start boozing great in the pool late afternoon keep the party rolling and the party by eight forty five great so I would pick up the red gay phone that calls all the gays and I would be like Heather McDonald's here I need you to come over I have friends who like work in the restaurant industry who seem like some stakes maybe I'm reading red meat right now but they don't down down we would go to the bakery that Blake lively goes to and we would pick up something great

right something something fun love it and we would then we would barbecue and I'd bring we would have the music out you know maybe some edibles if they were there and people wanted to they could partake yeah and then we probably would like take a nap at some point okay just like 45 minutes like just in your car if you want but like now and then like let's go a little alone time okay yeah if you need it yeah and then we probably watch something great after everyone went home

you know what I'd like to do also is watch and just like that back would you like to watch my episode the scene I was in oh that's right what seed we would season five episode our season three episode no I was in the scene where the one with episode would aid in came back so season two episode four

“I think it is yes when Mario can tone comes on the drew show yes and then I play myself in the”

hallway and you know do you have a tell you the story of how that happened no tell me okay that this true story um I heard that they were going to come and shoot with Drew at the show and I was like what day and it was like a Friday and I not there on Fridays that I went in and I emailed Michael Patrick King and I said I actually had my my realtor Arlene Cohen Keller Williams is friends with Michael Patrick King so I said can you let him know and she said oh email him so I did

and said hey I'm just gonna be there like come say hi and he came in and he was like Ross and I'm like you know I'm gonna write you a seed okay I was like you don't have to do that he was like I know why you're here and he did and I got to be at it but it's because I showed up and I was like hello hi member me hi I sometimes wake up with the moonlight and curse myself because I covered and just like that in a heat watching vein it's your it's your responsibility that it's gone it is

“I think that um Michael Patrick King Sarah just Parker they were just like screw these assholes”

we're not gonna do it anymore and I wish they didn't listen to me because it was getting better and I love I loved every second of it I loved if it was bad I loved if it was boring I loved if it was weird I loved if it didn't make sense I mean every Thursday we'd watch it I made my son my straight son Drake watch it and my other son Brad and we all loved it we loved

Chateeus getting a sitcom we it was so weird and bizarre yeah it's my fault and I will never

forgive myself if if I would have known that ripping on it in a hate watching way and having other people do the same would have ever contributed to them quitting I wouldn't have done it

“I want to be a friend to you in times like this but I'm also not going to lie to you”

well it's not not your fault I do think that and you're not it's not you alone no it's not me alone but I I feel that I feel like I was like a top 10 person that oh for sure did it yeah I would just like to I wish I could go back in the time machine because I didn't know it was going to come to an end either yeah I wish I could go on a time machine and say hey guys it's like pizza like even bad pizza is good it's good okay

and we didn't even know what we had when we had it and I'd like to go roll the tape

I never once publicly said anything bad about it publicly okay and maybe

maybe the history books will call me a hero and let them I read the day the news broke that this is it you knew you did it you knew it was your fault right away right I just was like you know I felt like that saying like and this is why we can't have nice things like I felt like the person that like broke the base in the living room for like playing around it too closely so do you want to make it like a public statement now my public statement is I loved and just

like that maybe more than sex in the city I loved the changes I loved the weirdness I loved the goofiness every every episode surprised me my predictions about where the show was go was wrong okay I didn't I I mean I predicted some things when I thought there's gonna be a sex in the city three but instead it was a series like that Miranda would be gay or have a gay relationship but not everything and then I kept wanting to you know rewrite it and be part of it and then

never did I think that it re-written me I thought for sure I'd get two more seasons out of it

I'm glad you finally said something I feel like it was causing a rift between us

“it's it's all full all right that's why I'm saying like would this that's why would we”

have our sleepover so we just like do I want to watch it I want to watch it I want to watch it I want to watch the chain tears episode when she was doing the stand-up concert and all of that and what do you for over the episode where she had to do the cameos? no I got Miranda spends the night that's the night actually wakes up to her like under the bed being like hey it's chain tears

I know it's your birthday tonight and she's like and we we're just dying like this stuff that they would do was so funny and perfect oh shit it was it was funny and perfect and hilarious and you said something earlier and you were right it was getting better it was right and then it's even better and that got the neck downstairs neighbor that was interesting the writer like they the right there was just places for it to go yeah I know um you

“know but that's what happens you can't expect something to come back with some people that are”

that rich that successful they don't need the show there is a risk that they will open their phone read the hate and quit yeah yes and well we learned that lesson didn't we Heather yeah so what happens what if it comes back again 10 years and it comes back are we just going to be grateful for what oh my god I will I will be I will only praise it I will go to anything the premiere I will treat it differently if I want to rip on it I'll call my sister or you

I won't publicly do anything because I need it to stay can I say something slightly connected but different I just went to the movie theater yesterday yesterday and saw Deborah was prodded too how was I haven't seen it so in the same vein of like a beloved thing like okay I and maybe because of what happened with sex in the city I was prepared to just be grateful just grateful I loved it so much oh I thought it was sensational but good a perfect movie like good on its own

and a great great great great addition to that except for one thing there's a scene where they cut the I'm not going to ruin anything everyone but they cut the budget at the magazine and Miranda has to fly to Italy for a fashion thing and they show her walking through first business and sitting in coach and I'm telling you right now even if they cut the budget she would have paid for her own first plastic it hello right that was the one thing that took me out of it

“but I don't that's why I give it an I get an A not an A plus because of that it was so sensational I”

thought so one snafu with the rest okay I totally agree with that I don't like and I get hung up on

things like that which is what got me critical I'm definitely going to go see that did you see the

Michael Jackson movie no no they cut my part you were in it no okay I can't imagine no I was liberati no it was I haven't seen it I don't know I don't know it seems a little I'm speaking about some I'll tell you why don't I have no interest in seeing it now I may see it in love it because I have no principles okay so let me just put that out there that I may change my mind here it just seems a little controlled by the family for me so it kind of seems like

not real life version of a biopic about the real human being it seems like a sanitized well I guess there's no mention of anything of any accusations of him with the young children which I can understand not to do that but I thought you could do it and you could have made it part of his life but you also could have just shown the perspective of what he said the whole time that he was innocent and that it was these parents that were doing this and there was a

connection whatever but I think they just wanted to be about the music and the fun and all that

because the goal of the family is that the music always remains popular and therefore the

musicals and things like that could continue did you know that they never mentioned Janet Jackson at all in the movie yeah apparently she declined to sign off or to sign off on it apparently

you're a public figure you know if someone was going to do the movie of Chelsea lately which they

“will have a few years yeah I was gonna say when they do and some young guy plays Ross Matthews sure”

you're not going to have to sign off on that you're going to wake up one day and see that they cast someone that is either better looking than you ever were or not is cute as you they would go so not cute that right you know it'd be like he has no paths you know what I mean like they would just get some pills very doughboy with no personality to play me I would need to sign off I would need to see I would hold additions but that's only if you can do that that's only if you can be

allowed to do that you don't have to be part of it I'm just saying they don't have to tell you when

there's movies done about you know things that happen in history or movies or crimes or whatever

they don't have to but I guess something with this because the family they were like she was like now doing fan fiction but she's probably like I don't even want my name and it or something you know because when they did the jacks and five like when they did that movie where Angela Bassett played the mother and it was like a made for tea movie movie series you know and it was about what all the kids were little and stuff they had and the kid represented yeah they did and it was

not good it was about the dad being abusive cheater yeah when they make the Chelsea lately movie

“who do you want to play you I need two options oh my god honestly like she doesn't look like me”

but Megan stalker from hacks oh yeah she's so funny that she's so funny and she's like you know in five years it would be like the right age of me back then or so I'm just saying if someone who's funny I mean I don't also go with like a no name that that just it would just have to it doesn't have to be the look so much as the personality someone that could play it off well yeah but she's got to be like um and this is a compliment she's got to be ambitious too you know

what I mean she's got to be like smart and not just not just funny she's got to like be it like you know like a boss a little bit right I mean you could be god you know what you could probably just

sadly have a I do the whole thing first right now oh my god give me five minutes and I'll make the movie

I hate because I pay for premium give me one second give me one second to younger have the retottle younger Ross Matthew put him on a panel oh with Chelsea um no it's um I saw Chelsea last night at the after party for Kevin Hart uh how was it it was fun she was great well I've just seen her a few times she looks in the last couple years yeah her outfit was really good um and she did a great job so you know it was we had a few minutes a hug and like I how's everything going I told

her you know I thought it was good I said did you get mad where you would do where anything upsetting that they were saying to you or were you just able to play that off perfectly because it's just so harsh on everyone and she was like no I don't fucking care I'm drunk and having fun like

“she was just great yeah so it was all it was all uh good but I think yeah I thought it was really good”

yeah so that would be I like that you guys um are good oh yeah you know yeah yeah I saw a couple years ago at a restaurant when I was celebrating my birthday and so that we were good then and it's like yeah it was it was great I know you guys had like a fun dinner yeah we've we actually seen each other more since I lived in New York than when I lived in LA oh good so she makes a stop there she reaches out she's good at that you know yeah like I'm gonna be here I'm gonna be in town and

do this and and I really yeah yeah I'm really grateful to have that kind of relationship but I have don't you feel like I have that with everybody that was on the round table yeah there were a few writers that wrote with her that I worked with that Chelsea that we're at the party too oh good and lovely to see them and you know I mean the show's been offered almost 12 years that's wild wild it's really wild when like you know like I I did my live show for the Netflix as a joke

and live juicy scoop on Saturday night and it was at the Ablog theater and these two young girls were setting up the stage and everything and I um and I just was like talking to them you know and the girls like no I know who you are I read your book she's like it was like a stage person stage hand and I'm like she's like yeah you still watch it when I was younger and I read

like how long ago that was and so um but it's really fun and that's why it was fun that you know

“that Chelsea and Kevin Hart have remained friends at whole time and as she has with you and um so”

it was all it was all it was great it was really is a fun I'm glad I went to the party I'm glad you went to you know and I am glad that we're all still so close I just talked to Joshua Wolff

on the phone two days ago yeah I when I was in Vegas I was like any chance you guys can get

“dinner but he was out of town so when he comes to LA he does juicy scoop and I love that his”

son works with him on the road and yeah it's like so it's so good I'm really proud of his we're growing up Heather we are growing up you know isn't that weird I look at your shoes

I'm like what what what what what what is happening but I also am like just so really grateful

“to like you know it's like I told you about my mom I wanted to stick around for as long as possible”

I feel like I'm holding up my end of the bargain or at least trying to you know and I'm so excited so tell everybody when they can watch oh you're debut as the reunion host tell off of the tell all of 90 day single life it's May 18th and May 25th so this coming Monday and it's a two partner it's a two partner and I really you know I don't make it about myself I really make it about them I try to do it with heart but firm you know how I am and as a lover and I really I really

think the fan's gonna be excited about this because I took it seriously and I had so much fun doing it so there are a lot of 90 day fiance viewers out there hello I'm Ross I'm one of you and this is really sort of a culmination of a dream come true you know I get infatuated with things and then I like to like I say crawl into the TV and get into the thing that I'm really obsessed with this is my favorite example of doing that so I hope everybody loves it well thank you so much as this is

so much fun we covered a lot and I love the catch up and and I will be in touch about planning our weekend for me I love you for real you know I do I love you for real okay love it love you thanks thank you bye everybody bye