Summer House Scandal, Zack Peter’s Take on Lively vs. Baldoni, and Taylor Frankie Paul’s Day in Court

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We have so much getting to, and I am very lucky to bring an expert in the field of everything. Zack Peter, of no filter with Zack Peter, is here. And Zack, I mean, I was on vacation. And this is how do to fall his life's work

has come to a climactic point. And I got a text from him.

“And he was like, oh my god, Heather, what did you write me?”

The Blake's case has been dismayed. Well, it's been gutted. Most of it has been dismissed at this point. Blake, suing Justin Beldoni for that she was sexually harassed.

Which we have always questioned the validity

and the facts of that element of her claims for so many reasons. And we covered it a lot here, but Zack was always like, ahead of the steps, reading all the stuff. Really, in the forefront, it is, I feel like, when they do the made for TV movie, which they don't do made

for TV movies. When they do the streamer movie, about your life, I think this is a pinnacle chapter. Well, I hope that if they do a movie about Blake and Beldoni, that there's like a caricature of me

that is the YouTuber, that's a talker, and there should be a parody character that is based on me. Because I was one of the only people that never joined the Blake Live's Matter Coalition and believed her story from day one.

I was the only one that questioned the New York Times article and I took my beatings from the internet accordingly. And I can now fully sit in my vindication. You feel like you're one of those people. Like, I was on the right side of history.

I was, I'm always on the right side of history.

And sometimes it takes a few years for the history to catch up to Zack.

“And is there anybody that you could see playing yourself?”

Because I want to warn you. I've only had one time a person play me in a reenactment. And it was Hollywood ghost stories. And I told a story of where I thought I was in a hotel with a ghost. And part of my story was when I traveled

and do stand up, so there was a girl playing me. And when I saw it, I was not thrilled with the choice of the, it just picked like what you would think would be a Brunette stand up. But it didn't look like me at all.

And so I just want to warn you who knows what will end up with the music. It's going to be a lifetime movie. So I'm going to get some like low budget, like, you know, real tick talker that's going to be grateful for five minutes

a camera time. OK, well, for the people putting it together, you know, you can easily just, you don't need to, there used to be a thing, print castings where they would say we're looking for a Kathy Griffin type.

We're looking for it. And there was a story of Tracy Ellis Ross, who said she saw the breakdown and said they're like, we're looking for a

“Tracy Ellis Ross type. And she's like, why can't it be me?”

No one's called me to do it. So you could actually get the real D. I hope so. I'm available. So let's, I mean, in this saga,

let's explain, OK, so 13 of the things 10 were thrown out. Correct. Those all had to do with her claiming he, she was sexually harassed onset during the filming of this and us. It ends with us, yes.

Sorry, it ends with us. Yes. So there were multiple claims that she was making, including sexual harassment, toxic work environment, defamation, retaliation, all of these things, and 10 of 13 have been dismissed, including the key ones being sexual harassment thrown out.

So that's because the judge really looked at all the evidence. And there was nothing that would would justify this going further or what? Yes and no. So it, because you'll hear a lot of the, the Blake supporters say, oh, well, it was dismissed on the technicality, which is sort of true, but also not because the judge

broke it down. And I think it's 150 to pages. His full ruling. And he goes into each of her different claims. And he makes it clear that, you know, or he at least gives his

wouldn't stand at trial. And so he

“dismissed it. I mean, the biggest piece of evidence that really”

came back to bite her is this PGA letter that she wrote, where she was requested. So she was killed. Correct. Yeah. A producer's killed association. And so she wanted the PGA credit on this film by saying, I did all of these things. And she broke it down and listed all 70 things that she did, including overseen HR on a daily basis.

Okay. That's one of the things that she wrote in the letter as to why she deserved that what is what combats her claims that she didn't have any power on set. And she wasn't a vulnerable employee. So he's like, well, no, she wasn't an employee. She wasn't independent. He wasn't underling. She wasn't. Yeah. She had a lot of power on the set. So she

wasn't classified as an employee. She was classified as an independent contractor who did yield some power on the set of evidence with us. And he even gets more specific like there was one allegation where she's like Justin Belldonny described his genitalia to me. And then you get into the context behind that conversation. And it was

before the movie even started, before she'd even agreed to be in the movie. And it was in regard she was pregnant with her son and Ryan Reynolds was there. The nannies were there. They were hanging out at their house, which she likes to refer to as Buckingham Palace,

“which we learned from the Taylor Swift text messages that that's what she”

calls her house. And they were talking about. Yeah. Just to like what she says because so on the queen. So many famous people come in and out of there that it's like Buckingham Palace. I believe is the message that she's. Okay. That's annoying. Come on. Yeah. So with the conversation, they were having was about her baby boy and whether and it was

her first boy and whether or not she was going to circumcise him. And so

in this conversation, we're just about doing it was not her boss at the time. I guess it came up that he is circumcised. And so in the context of talking about circumcision for a baby, the baby that she was about to give birth to. So the judge's like, well, that no, that doesn't that doesn't qualify a sexual harassment. And so all of these pieces, uh, all of these

different allegations just didn't didn't rise to the degree of sexual harassment. If you lump them all together, sure, but then you factor in she was not an employee. She had a lot of power on the set. So the sexual harassment piece was one of the biggest. That's really an in-study and two and going through this for last year and a half. It was like

every single thing really had a circumstantial reason and explanation to it. And really what was the most fascinating part was in myself and analyzing it was what she, who she is as a person, as an actress, married to Ryan Reynolds, as someone who's been married to someone for 10 years. Who's pushing 40? Who has four kids? Who is excited to have a little

crush at work? Yeah. Who then, you know, what I like about what I do on juicy scoop, whether it's housewives of this, is these stories are relatable. Yeah. They are relatable. And so it's like, she, what I believe happened. It was a rolling effect of where someone should stop the train. Yeah. And it was this whole thing happened. There was

arguments or whatever. And she let Ryan Reynolds know that he had come on to her that this was going on. And then that sparked. I don't want him even near me at the premiere. And because Ryan Reynolds is more famous and because she's the more famous face, they just wanted to like keep her happy. Let's go through this fucking thing. And when that

press came out and everything, it's the movie still did well. People were fine. Then there was like a little bit of like, no, she's kind of a bitch on other shows and stuff that popped up. And this is where you make a mistake, whether you're a small content creator or Blake lively. You start listening and reading and thinking the entire

world thinks you're something that you're not. And you start spiraling and then you have a husband that's like, let's spiral together. Yeah. And then fuck this guy. And now we're off to the races. We're going to destroy him. And whether he believed her or not, whether she believes herself, whether they exaggerated, whether someone put it in their head

that this is a real thing. And it's really happening. The fact that there was no one to just go. Stop. Yeah. Stop. Just chill a minute. You're all you're going to be fine. You're absolutely going to work again. Give it a fucking minute. Louis C. K is selling out

us in square garden. Give it a fucking second. Yep. People will forget

that there what that you have a little bit of a

“dismissive bitchy attitude with a makeup artist. Who cares?”

Had she just let this play out. Another simple favor with Anna Kendrick was coming out the next year. She had already filmed it. And I think

simple favor. Pete like the movie itself. Like it's very campy. And it's a little cheesy. But it wasn't bad. Another simple

“favor. Yeah. The sequel. It wasn't bad. And I think people, I mean,”

I think people are hating the movie because they dislike her. But I think had she just let that play out. And that movie came out. I think people would hit she would have won people over again. I actually was a huge fan of the first movie of some of the favor. I thought I loved it. I thought was funny. I thought she was really good. Yeah.

Whether she was playing herself or not. Who cares? Like that's kind of interesting. Yeah. She was great. I originally didn't think she was terrible in the town. I love that movie. Yeah. Now I die at how bad it is. I die at the parodies of people doing her. Like how she's like, oh, you're the crime stopper. You figure it out. God, you know, I'm a drug addict. Oh, I

Charlie's going to know what's going to happen. Like, now I'm like, oh my god, that was like really bad. And then people look further into it. And they're like, why was Ben Affleck driving around at 2 a.m. Well, I was married to Jennifer. Yeah. Affleck or whatever. And, you know, so then you're all those, but still people move on so quickly. Yeah. And

even women who hate on women and where they move on so quickly. There's a new story in a week and a half. In her case, God, learn from it. Like relax, put your phone down. Yeah. Go on vacation with your family. Like, just chill. I think to that same point, I think she thought, let's just do the New York Times article and we'll bury him there. I think she thought

that that's where it was going to end. And then he just he called up Steve Sarah with his, you know, his, um, what the executive from his production company, who's a billionaire. And he's just like we're fighting this. And they did. And they fought back. And they came back swinging and now, you know, here we are. But it's. So do you think that she and Ryan and

her team never thought again, in strategizing what you want to do. And then

“send the team wanting to please her. Yeah. Okay. That's what you want to do.”

You know, and being a sick a fan or not really saying or just being too dumb to not go, okay. So Justin Meldoni, he's best known for being the actor on what was a call. Jane the virgin. Jane the virgin. He's cute. He's done some directing. He's not, you know, Martin Scorskezy. So fuck him. We're going to bury him because you think he because really he

like wasn't into you. And you think he called you fat. Yeah. Okay, whatever. And so let's do that. So nobody said, but now wait a minute, honey, what if he doesn't crawl back into a hole and start doing, you know, a hallmark movie on the side and move to Canada. Yeah. What if his partner who is a billionaire is like, I'm a fucking billionaire dude. No, no, no, no. I know

you're a good guy. We're going to fight this. Do you think that's what happened? Using nobody said, there's someone behind him that might not

crawl into Canada's home. Well, they always knew that he would that

Sarah wits would step in because they name Sarah wits in the lawsuit as well. So they barked up that tree. They name Sarah wits. The name Jamie, he named Justin Baldoni. His publicist Jennifer Abon is crisis manager and Melissa Nathan. All of whom have now been completely dismissed. So the only defendants left in this lawsuit are way fair. The studio and it ends

with us the LLC that we're producing the film. So all of them have been dismissed personally. So just it's not even Blake's battle against Justin Baldoni anywhere because he's been dismissed. It's just his studio that stands as a defendant. But I do think they knew that that would be a

“possibility. But that's why they put so many of these legal protections”

in place. Like they were really, really smart about how they went about this lawsuit. I just don't think they expected. Because once you throw out allegations coming off of, you know, me too in times up and all of that, once you throw those allegations out there, there's kind of

always that stink on you regardless. And so I think they thought that

that would just be enough to, you know. And also do you think this will be like, you know, crisis crisis PR like 101 like case study like what to do, what not to do like going forward in a digital world when she said in her statement, like this is about digital violence. And I'm like, girl, then we're all victims of digital violence. Anybody that

someone who has two other followers in their best friend looked at their story, but didn't like it. They're they're a victim of digital violence. Like, I mean, come on. Well, that's the, so that's what's going forward to trial now is that retaliation piece. So there are two, there are sorry, three claims that are moving forward. It's the retaliation

in power. It's breach of contract and it's breach of implied covenant. So the last, the case has really been reduced to a contract dispute. And whether or not the studio violated their contract by retaliating against her. But so what she'll have to prove in court now is one, she has to prove that she doesn't have to prove sexual harassment, but she

has to prove that she did formally bring allegations against them,

evidence that she brought their no HR complaints. There's no, you know, emails or

“text messages to any of the Sony executives. We have one Sony executive”

Angie Genetti, who has already come out and say said that no,

there were never any formal complaints that were brought against

Belldoni or any of the parties. So she has to prove that there were legit claims that were brought. Then she has to prove that retaliation did take place. And this is where she's going to have to say the smear campaign was real. And she's going to have to prove that and not that he was just defending himself, but that they were intentionally trying to harm her

reputation. And then three, she's going to have to prove that they tried to heart, they did and tried to harm her reputation, specifically because she brought these allegations and they were retaliating against her for bringing forth those allegations. But even when it comes down to the contract dispute, and this is what the jury is going to have to

“determine, with the contract, it's really writing on this 17-point list of”

demands that she made. She halted production halfway through and she said these are 17 points that I want to make sure for the next phase of production are met. They said, okay fine, whatever, give her whatever she wants, we'll sign the agreement and say, yes, all 17 points of those, we'll agree to. One of them mean we won't retaliate against you. What that means

nobody really knows, which is what a jury is going to have to divine. But they say, okay, sure, we won't, we won't retaliate against you. But that specific contract, the terms of that are going to, are really going to be what the jury is going to have to look at because it was in relation to production. These things cannot happen during

production. And at the end of production, she signed an agreement

saying none of these things happened the second phase of production

went by smoothly. And the alleged retaliation happened after production. It happened during the promotional tour, so we don't even know if that retaliation even would apply in this case. I mean, and this is why people are like, maybe AI and Hollywood isn't such a bad idea. Like, seriously, like my god. I mean, the movie was so not good. Like, it made no sense that this like,

that she has this flower shop that, you know, is just all boarded up at somehow she manages to get the least to do dry, black, dry flower arrangements. And then the rich sister is like, I'm bored. I'm just walking around with my broken. And I just want to like work anywhere. I just would like to get a job. So I'm just knocking on a door that's all boarded up

in dusty. Do you want me to help you? And I don't want to come in once the place is clean. Let's not hire anyone to help clean us clean it up. Let me just let's turn on the music. And so I have to say, like, it was lame. There were so many lame things about the movie. So it's just like, it wasn't even good.

Well, that's calling Hoover's problem. It's good. Yeah, it's true. But it was lame. So so yeah, now it moves forward to trial. May 18th. And then the sequence, the sequel, what happens to that? There is no sequel. I don't think, I mean, he's still technically owns the second book. There's a second book. It's called, it starts with us. He owns the rights to the second book to make it into a film. If he wants to, I doubt that he will.

Oh, my God. His character isn't even in it. Or is not really in it. I wonder if he will, though, just to like, be like, you know what? This meat, this is the full circle moment. And this, and what if it was really fucking good? Like, what if he got someone to rewrite it? I guess it turns out to be great. And he's like five years later here is the, you know, the cherry on the shits Sunday, but it actually tastes good. I don't know.

I think he would get support. I think people would show up in theaters for him. Amazing. I know

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since your mother was taken for her home. I remember like thinking if and when would she come back

people speculated I would never want to be in the public eye again. This was obviously related to her

or not other people saying yeah but when you lose someone in your life whether it's a parent or a child

“you need to get back into a routine and why wouldn't you? It's an easy job. It's a fun job that you”

liked. And I thought my prediction was like that she would go back in September because I thought she'll take the rest of the school year off and the kids at her will like go on vacation and then once they go back to school she'll be like okay but it also could be contractual and mentally yes sometimes you just need to move on you know and just go back to your job no matter what the tragedy is. I think September probably would have been this smarter decision

and she didn't even need to go back to the today show. She could have written a book you know she would have gotten a good deal about healing from grief and like she could have really turned this into you know her her next chapter in life. I predicted that she was going to do a sit down with hoda copy before it was announced that that was going to be the one-on-one and I predicted that by the end of that interview that we would have a date for her return which we got a

brosix which has now happened she came back and joy is her protest that's the tagline that they're going with joy is her protest. What do you mean be so means be happy like don't. You're not going to write you yeah you're not going to rob her for mom but you're not going to rob her for joy. Okay okay all right. It's just not that I'm trying to judge her but it is very soon to be embracing the joy of life considering you still haven't found your mother and you don't seem very upset about

the investigation into finding your mother um but yeah listen she's back it is a little soon but I think hoda copy was gunning for that spot um so I still think now I do think it was not something as like calculating and weird and conspiracy and about her and what she's reported on and all

that's I do think it was just a crime that happened like a John Bene that we might never know what

happened but it happened it happened and she's no longer with us and it was then they took her and then

kill her but they took her and they left the house and in a panic and whoever that is whether it's a deviant essay or they didn't mean to kill her and they were just trying to rob the house or they're just some weird dude that knew that a rich lady lived down the street whose grandparents would watch her daughter Savannah on the news every day and he was like that house must be rich and he was like dumb and did this I don't know I don't think that's I thought I don't think

well the the latest reports have come out that the house was pretty clean um so whoever did this I think cleaned up after themselves which makes the blood on the porch a little more suspicious and then the back door is being wide open also suspicious I think the family knows what happened I do at this point you think happened I think something happened to her I mean I've played around with a few different theories but I think it all goes back to the sister Annie and the brother-in-law Tomasso they

were the last ones to see her live I mean you do juicy crimes you know that statistically and with the pattern of crime it's usually somebody close to the subject number one and number two

“you have to look at what could the motivations be and then when you look at the traditional”

motivations it probably wasn't a crime of passion nobody was having an affair with Nancy Guthrie you know so it's probably financial will who had the financial motivation well Annie is a poet and Tomasso is a substitute teacher and they just bought a house last summer so how are they funding their life if it wasn't motivated or if it wasn't linked back to possibly Nancy who was also they were also her case I think that Savannah because it is her sister she just doesn't want to

believe it just want more pain to the family like because I that's what I originally thought it's a two I thought I thought the mother is helping them or even she secretly was helping her son-in-law he was convincing her that he was going to do this great business and bit

quote who knows and she gave money or was giving money and finally they had that last meal

and she either told them both or told him privately I'm not going to help you anymore and then something happened whether it was intentional or not but well if she's gone then we will get the money and there was something that happened with the house recently where they're like they are able to it doesn't have to just stay it could go in the trust in meaning now they could sell it and stage it and then and then use the money or or they could clean it up

and they could move into it the brother and lawn the sister and then they could sell their house and they could live on that and then that way if the mother ever came back her house is still there yeah and not sold yeah no I agree I mean it's just there are too many unanswered questions and

“there's not enough outrage I think from the family and not enough utilization of all of these”

resources like the today show and NBC that could have been used in the first two three four five six seven weeks of this case and the whole the rest of the world was more invested in finding Nancy got three so I think Savannah came because she believed her mother was missing and then listen if your sister comes to you and is like holy shit we accidentally killed her we needed to get rid of her like if you if it was an accident it was unintentional something would you

would you cover up for your sister will look at the theory with jumping maybe i think there would jump in a race right the theory is covered up for the brother for the son for the pineapple but then you you take a step further right could she be covering up for any maybe but then you go a step further and you're like well what other motivations would Savannah have outside of protecting her family you also have her job and her reputation if she's known as the woman

whose sister murdered the mom you're forever gonna live with that scandal but if you're the woman

whose mom never was found then everybody can watch you come back to the today show and you're

bright yellow dress and joy come within the morning you know joy is your protest like you get to then just be the lady who lost her mom rather than the lady who sister killed the mom yeah and when

“you think about because she's so aware of these cases i think about it too i was like watching”

you know these crime documentaries and things and i'm like people don't realize that every time there's an appeal of the time that like then the the poor victims of victims of the family have to go to the court have to live through it again have to go through so that's always like oh you know they they're just about to catch the guy and you ran into the woods and killed himself thank god thank god we don't have to live through the trial and this you know it's

because it's just and then you know and then people write about you and then people talk about you and and forever and they do movies about it and you don't like the person that played you and like

it does it's like when you're and people don't realize like you know there's always you always think of

needs to know the person that had to live through it and it changed the trajectory of their life because someone close to them was a victim yeah very juicy a very juicy because we don't know

“and that's why it is interesting and all these factors are something that we can never”

there's never been something like this before where a regular uh you know one of the most famous

faces in the world because she does a national morning show not her child but her mother you know it's like the Lindberg baby from a long time we're like these things are yeah and and John Manay wasn't they weren't famous but they because she did the pageants because of all that and then what happens is they know that these magazines anytime for the last 30 years well there's somewhere guy in prison who says that he shared a cell with some guy who talked about John Manay okay at least you're bored

you're at that you know all right I'll buy that magazine back in magazines or I'll click on that so they know that there's certain stories that no matter how many years go by OJ whatever yeah for 30 years finally the OJ articles have stopped because he's dead yeah but like it literally anytime there was a slow period it would like the story would come up again or a new movie would be done yeah because everyone's like oh I know that one and it's juicy and that that'll be this it's just

oh I don't think whatever you don't think it will be though because it isn't a beautiful blonde with who is married to a famous football player who maybe he was selling drugs or had a lover like the whole OJ was so you know what I mean it's like those factors it wasn't a beautiful little

“dot so I kind of think I think the story is gonna die and I think it's done already like it's dead”

the sheriff keeps telling us this could take years to solve but she's probably still alive out there which makes no fucking sense and then you have Savannah who's just like moving on I mean her sit down with Hoda gave us absolutely nothing other than remember I'm sad and so that when I go back to the today show don't judge me like that was the whole premise of that I just want to go work and three parts yeah we did three parts over two days they milked the hell out of that interview

and gave us absolutely nothing. There aren't any clips or anything because there was nothing to clip from it and even you know and Hoda was a tear it was a terrible interview from Hoda's and because she asked no file even easy follow-ups like when Savannah's like we believe at least two of the ransom notes were real okay why what made you believe that two of them are real and also even the bigger fucking question is why didn't you pay them yeah the initial offering for the mom was

$2,500 before the FBI stepped in and then up to to 50 and then the FBI up to to a hundred and it would took what over a month before Savannah's like you know okay I guess now I'll put in a million dollars and go home to New York and it's like but didn't she also say I did want to offer a million like the first couple days and the and the detectives or whatever said don't she hasn't said that but that is the speculation is that it was likely the sheriff or the FBI

“that encouraged her not to do that but that's what we've seen to it I mean the rainbow right”

that out there really on every time there's a you know a kidnapped ransom movie type of thing

it's always like go meet us at this you know phone booth with a million dollars and you're like

well if I do this there's no how do I and then what if you call a police we're gonna kill your kid and you're always like what do I do so it's always like what do you do you know like you never is gonna play it out on TMZ like yeah just it didn't make Eddie it didn't make any sense I mean and also like you there was no search party there were no cadaver dogs there was no family with her face on the shirts going out digging into the desert like you traditionally see

with high profile kidnappings even to this day the sheriff is not even considering that this could be a homicide they still believe that there's this crazy old lady snatcher that just took her in the middle of the night and poof she disappeared it's like you don't just lose a whole ass lady in 2026 with zero documentation evidence footage GPS anything she had a pacemaker that was connected to bluetooth and poof this lady disappeared aliens had a webcam and taken Nancy got

three at this point all we have are little drops of blood which also mind you the drops of blood there was no splatter of blood there was no footprint stepping the blood in it's just convenient little drops that are going right out to the driveway that Brian and Tin was able to come in in less than 48 hours to come and film with his phone and post that on the internet I'm not using Brian of anything but I'm just saying who is Brian Brian and oh he's one of the the new

nation he's the lead reporter that's kind of been in Arizona covering this from the beginning

but the crazy part is he was just able to within the first couple of days walk right up to the

that's not closed off to the public like reporters are walking up to her porch it was just yet the

pool guy in the first week going and cleaning her pool and it was it was so strange and so bizarre

and it just felt like yeah the whole thing was so weird and it's like yeah you wonder like is it's just the shortest police work ever is it they actually do have major scoop that they're keeping under wraps so that they actually have a case so they're acting like we're not looking at the brother-in-law yeah because I mean that happens a lot when like the husband kills a wife they act like everything's fine and it can be like two years later and they were looking you know so

it's like and they but they really make the person relax they don't even call them anymore for interviews they're just like we we're getting our ducks in a row so we'll see we'll see I

“maybe it will be maybe we'll never hear it about again or maybe we will that's the only thing I'm”

thinking that yeah everyone's criticizing our stupid county but we actually just you wait you know

like I'm hoping bring the lady home so summer house which is the hottest show to talk me talked about since Vanderpump's scandal this is where these kids all go in this in the summer they rent a house it's been going on for 10 years and many of them date each other and they have these parties and they go every weekend in the summer and Kyle and Amanda met on the show they got married every summer they fight they don't have kids and you know some people have

been a little while other people come in and then a couple years ago this guy named West came in those some people come West that's the biggest country for some people say his name West or West he comes in not my type he's kind of cute he's kind of funny and so he's a good reality show person and then this beautiful girl Sierra comes in and she's a black and gorgeous and just one of the most attractive people and they have a flirty situation on and off this summer

debt it up Amanda and Kyle Kyle creates this liquor company called lover boy which is like

“self-serdrinks and he's like you need to help me more and she's like I hate working but I have a good”

body I want to have bikinis and then he's just like you know it support me and then he's like you wanted to be a bikini designer will I want to be a DJ and then she's like what and then he becomes a DJ which he was good we saw him at the I had a good fucking tie with him and he was very nice afterwards and he DM me and he said thank you for your support you had a good time and blah blah blah everyone's like I can't believe he's a DJ he needs to be staying home with

his wife and being a better husband he shouldn't be at night clubs they got to became a DJ because then Amanda was fucking west and they're going to get divorced and so think out he has a DJ company because the lover boy company is suffering financially and then some people you know then there's more speculation where people were too harsh on Amanda that she's walking around the Hampton's with the Scarlet letter A not for Amanda but adultry

and then you know she didn't see her was such a good friend to her and when she knows that Sierra was still pining for her ex west and then west did he deceive his friend Kyle and why you know so what are your thoughts and then we're going to into some more elements is this scan of all or no it's not the level of scan of all and it's certainly not like these players aren't important enough like we watched Vanderpump rolls for 10 years and like

Vanderpump rolls had Lisa Vanderpump attached to it had real house was it Beverly Hills attached

“to it so it had this cultural pop culture relevance that I think summer house has ever peaked”

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remembers that like she's been very forgettable when it comes to anything outside of summer house

“I think that this was like a Lindsay Hubbard or a page disorderbo who are I think the breakout”

stars of the show or I mean Kyle Cook I guess Kyle is the star of the show but I think Sierra just you know she wasn't the star and Amanda's also not that interesting and west is so new to the franchise that he's not that interesting no I mean west is just a typical he's a triple a triple a thirst bucket yeah he wants to be he wanted to be a reality star and so he was he is a player he's alerts with women you know he's flooded with other

women in the bravo world that I know for a fact in which he like was writing them saying like we could have a PR moment like when a younger yeah person goes for an older real-house wife let's go so yeah let's fuck but also like we could also play this out so he's very publicity hungry and he's a player and he's been DMing other women so she left who everyone thought was an annoying child Kyle to be with the one you know she's just that girl that a guy shows

and then they came out with a statement it is wild and everybody was like oh my god and then Sierra there was something being that she is a black woman some people felt that this made it extra

“bad because sometimes white guys just want to experience a beautiful black woman I think it was a”

typical fling in which he was a player she wanted more he's just a fuck boy I don't think that meant anything but as her friend and Sierra was such a good friend to a man or when when a man is crying every day about being being with Kyle and not knowing if she's going to owe two million dollars in lover boy or not because they don't have a pre-nip and they kind of want to get divorced and everyone's tired of hearing them fight that's where it was like it was

deceptive yes I think the deception is Amanda and Sierra I mean but people are really putting a lot of pressure on this relationship between Sierra and West Sierra and West dated for a summer in 2023 it's been three years yeah and they dated for a little bit and since then we have seen West be a poor and and you know be a whore and sleep with all these women and he's a he's a

“douchebag player he's not the prize that either of them should be fighting over but I do agree I think”

Amanda's betrayal of Sierra is the worst part of it all but I also think Amanda's been in a

loveless marriage for a long time where she's never been emotionally fulfilled call Allison

Dubois he'll never emotionally fulfill you and Kyle never did and so now she's technically single and West is also single even though he was still kind of keeping Sierra on the burner they were you know she'd Sierra hated him after they dated and then she blasted him at the I think season eight reunion and they weren't friends throughout season nine and then season 10 comes in and now she's kind of giving him a second chance and you know and he's not committing to her because he's not the

commitment type of guy and I think Amanda got I think he likes to go after the girls that are unavailable Amanda was unavailable because she was married to Kyle and that's where we see her and West be kind of flirty and have this really flirty relationship throughout season 10 and then now Amanda's

“out of her relationship is looking for some sort of emotional connection which I think West being a”

love bomber was giving her and he also knew like I probably shouldn't go for her because she's you know she's friends and she just came from my friend Kyle's marriage and like now she's technically single so I think it was just forbidden for they fell they fell for each other and it's more infatuation than anything and now they have to commit because they blew everything up and then the

lemonade of it is that they have this been off called the city and Kyle who's now was always the

villain everyone hated them now women are feeling sore for him they're saying how can we support lover boy or you know alcohol can company what can we do can I have it at my baby shower can we support the the scorned woman of Kyle I was I saw somebody did a little funny photo shop of him being the next proxy heart and I in Chicago and I thought that was brilliant I'm sorry who was over chocolate was not mine I thought it was really funny anyway I it's good I'm glad that

you have RDA make it 20,000 year lover boy my make it or not and now everyone's gonna watch your spin off yeah so and you guys had a horrible marriage anyway he doesn't even seem that bad about it I think he's like well you know and then they go meet to walk the dogs and the this is the thirty a f club put this together and Amanda's wearing his hat that West used to wear a shirt that West has the same headphones she's got all his clothes on to go meet Kyle to walk the dogs and

he's telling you know reporters like leave her alone you know she's mentally she's mental health issues you cannot be on a reality show if you can't take the mean bitches on the internet you know did you know my lovely like but now you've run on the show for 10 years what else are you gonna do get a job at you know even markets which is closing what are you going to do so I get it stay on the show who knows those sometimes listen sometimes affairs happen or whatever where someone

very close to you this is why in the Bible it says thou shall not covet covet thy neighbor's wife it's oftentimes someone you know that's in your circle that you know you're gonna swing with that you're gonna do whatever that lives next door that's the the mom that you act like you're

best friends I'm always fascinated by the woman who goes after her best friends dude I that's why

now the other thing that came up is um my hold on let me just okay so first of all I want to ask

about these parties so they always have these parties every weekend and this always the theme

and this one was let's be old people or whatever theme but they had like prosthetics and all that stuff so clearly right the producers have to come in and give them all this costume I mean it was like it was like complete makeup and yeah awful theme for a party yeah what do you think of somebody's birthday and so they're like oh you're getting old so it's all dressed up as old people but then everybody else at the party nobody dressed up as old so it's all just the stars of it doing

that what the walkers and the tits and yeah I mean I get it like Vanderpum started to do everything was a theme let's be in drag and whatever I it was just lame okay so then and I call you know is looking older and but he launched his non-alcoholic um restaurant drink place and maybe okay but I wanted to wait I wanted to say that this was interesting so then this girl Toronto Popson people think that it was interesting when Paige was dating um Craig and she was on the show

and Craig and Amanda were very huggy, very supportive and at one moment someone also caught in old episode we're pages sitting across from Craig, her boyfriend and Amanda is sitting next to Craig

at a dinner and they're holding hands I have never in my life called a man like this that's not my

husband or son or gay best friend or whatever I have never hugged someone else's man like that or or held another man's hand like that in my life that's not Mauricio after her burglary

“right she kisses his his head right you know his like shoulders that thing um so it's weird I think”

Amanda's just that kind of girl that is very like she doesn't know boundaries with guys and she just does realize yeah she's like girl that gets does the piggyback right oh you're carrying me on your shoulders like my brother shut up well then your brother fucker yeah that was from simply like life yeah that was from simple favor that was such a good that was so good okay this guy came across Kurt Walker and I loved this little video he did he said I have some

scoop on West and I wouldn't say scoop but I thought it's okay if you did I want to tell you about it and I do think this says anything it says something about a person and what I tell you I think everyone will agree that this says a lot he said they were at the summer house party at the house he goes which are not fun and lame and I think we can tell and the party ended and he couple of them including West said yeah we want to go out with you guys at the local bar so lucky

for him I can imagine how hard it is he got the table he knew somebody that had they got on the VIP table behind the DJ booth and they give them wristbands and everybody when you go to stage coaches to you know anything like that or could shella coming up this weekend everyone knows not to do it super tight in case you want to skip out on the third day whatever they make it

“really really hard you have to have a very tiny rest or whatever but this was just he gives”

them there's a span and is like don't tighten it so that you know we can go back and forth or bring someone into the thing he said you gave it to us who immediately tighten the shit out of it on his own wrist of course and I think that says everything yeah it wasn't your night you didn't get the table you didn't buy the wristbands but you're so entitled because you're this big star that you think that you're allowed to do that and so then this cat couldn't leave

the booth couldn't get a kiss couldn't go say how to a friend and he was the one that hooked up the whole fucking thing so I think that says it all and I West is that guy you know he's not and he also like you know he he knows how to pander to the bravo audience he knows how to say like when before all this candle like the girls did like him because if his personality or

he was funny I just always saw him as a hack and he just always knew what to say and like how to

you know get them to like him which to me just always came across very disingenuous but I mean he

“is cute I think he's a cuteie I like his little belly all right good for you I also love Austin”

Coral I love all the bad ones yeah he's fun Madison that was my favorite era of the southern

Doreet which by the way I've noticed she does this thing that's kind of annoying where she's

always like she's always like whenever she's talking she's like well I'll tell you

like it was like like she's always like parched a little bit and trying to get it out and she's always like why is it that Kyle was so determined to make everyone realize that I was an issue and let me know that everybody is against me that is what Kyle did and to me that is inexcusable and then for Erica to get so upset because both has like I don't know so everyone is like bitch you've been late a lot and it's been really fucking annoying and then she's like I'm going through

a very hard time Erica and Erica's like so that why what's been going up with you what's gonna help me I still live at it I still live at a rental I am still being sued for like a billion

dollars my husband is imprisoned everybody over including me and it is in prisons with all

timers I don't know like I don't know like it was when she said that I was like oh my god well you don't talk about it Erica don't talk about it because I had to talk about it for the last three years but you would still check in with me you don't think it's fucking stressful yeah like oh my god and so then she they've just had it with her and she is a smoker and she's been smoking the whole time she's been on and that's another thing that they couldn't reveal but now that

smoking's and they can but that a lot's of times she'd be off not checking on her kids but

“having a cigarette break and I remember that back in the old days of working at Robinsons May”

that I thought wow the smokers get to leave the building they get to leave the building and have a break and I was like at one point do I develop smoking do I say I have an elderly mother that I have to get home to because I don't have a kid like when I was single as a non-smoker you got no fucking breaks at a regular job and I've said it over and over again this is a job yeah and the longer they're on it the more they're like I was at that boring fucking dinner

for four hours and thirty two minutes and you left at three hours and fifty one minutes therefore I'm fucking mad yeah I went to the I couldn't be in my bed scrolling TikTok forty minutes earlier that this is why these shows and they had to go to all the homeless not toothless dinners yeah all that stuff yeah they did all that for drink they did all those things for Doreen and you know so that's her deal what do you think I enjoyed Erica Lane and to Doreen

“I loved it was because I think there's just like it was a fatigue that I think the audience has”

felt like Doreen like we get it you're going through a hard time but also like Kyle's going through a divorce Rachel's those going through a divorce both is having fertility issues Sutton's going through this identity crisis where kids are growing up and she's wanted to change the Northwich and her friends dating him yeah old friend Mike barrier husband and the Catholic Church I wish we were able I know that like legally she has trouble getting into that

time but that doesn't hurt that's interesting that's still so much that she's like everybody's going through something but Doreen just sucks up all of the oxygen in the room and then when we had him watch why should we feel sorry for you that P.K. wasn't paying your bills and then you go buy four Gucci bags yeah what come on like you don't need four Gucci bags you don't need the Kelly isn't like this was the one thing they make in Italy and I've been wanting

of my whole life and it's going to go up in value so yes I did spend $30,000 on this thing because I see it as a little bit of a nesty no it was just like no I'm going to show you that I can buy four Gucci bags and I was just like ew yeah I don't want to hear you bitch about your money it's like when you lend somebody money and then they're like I'm going to actually could you add lobster to that Caesar and you're like yeah okay I thought you were broke yeah

because I'm just having the regular Caesar so like why anyway it was for it's frustrating and I

“like yeah I think that and then when Andy brought up like when she's over to him to lie”

about the being late being late on the plane um it's you were never late I'm not a late person

I believe there's three types of people in this earth okay there's the people who are 10 minutes early or always on time there's the people that are always 15 minutes late and then they're the people that are an hour plus late who never feel bad about it no who don't it's like I'm here it's such it's the most arrogant thing and the fact that she left them on the plane walked in and was like where do I sit I mean if that was me and I found myself in that position

cannot believe I made you guys wait I'm fucking a shell of my human self like I I tried to tell

“the producers they told me to wait like I would have just said it all I would have been like I”

can't imagine her just being like well no now I do feel badly now you feel badly it's a job it's a job yeah even her apology again a job that she needs right she needs the job because pk's not paying rent you know and and also now not that I'm team pk but not that I'm not team pk but like I I understand have not paying rent on the house because he's like you're literally you just got your book it like you know where her thing is like well the arrangement was

you were supposed to always pay for the house and you were supposed to always pay for the bills

and after a while of her just draining all of the money like I would be no better how good a divorce is and how rich you are the spending that you had when you were a love yeah if that's your transactional marriage that you can shop and he you know levy I want to that's going to change

“you you know what's fucking you know all of you together he's an apartment if you're going to keep”

the house like curtail the glam curtail the shopping I am look at I get it I get it um Mauricio is in this family drama he is father who I guess he and his mother she's the father and the mother a divorce a long time ago he's had this what girl from the father for 18 years 18 years

and my understanding is they he and a sister are now suing this girlfriend of 18 years for um you know

like they don't think she's taking care of the elderly father who has Alzheimer's well enough and they're suing her for $400,000 which were gifts over the years that the father gave her and also that she spent the money on a facelift I don't have all the details okay I'm telling you what I think fuck you if I was the girlfriend yeah fuck you 18 years is not 18 months no 18 years is significant you're not for $400,000 I would hope that if someone to use your going after some

fucking jewels that he gave her and then she got a facelift most women in Beverly Hills get a facelift after a certain age your own wife has gotten one so is your sister in law your daughters have had worked done what does it matter so the woman that took care of your dad for 18 years and then all and if he has Alzheimer's whatever oh it's not up to the get so now she's not a good enough care you go visit your dad who doesn't know who I am anymore yeah

who she's took care of him for 18 years I'm sure he wasn't in pristine health 18 years ago

“I'm sure he's slowly been deteriorating but never married guess what asshole that's why”

you married the girlfriend because one day you might need her to actually really take care of you if you don't marry her yeah she's free to go she's free to say hey uh your dad needs you guys to visit him and you need to put him in a home because I'm not in the will yeah I only got a few pieces of jewelry over the last four if 18 years yeah isn't there a long California though we're if you're together for 10 years there's like common no that change would game marriage past

that's mine the gaze ruined the the pal it was called palmony doesn't exist how many does it we may need to we we've done a we may need to reverse it sometime I think that's my understanding is there was a time where palmony when you're with someone for seven years yeah you could sue for palmony saying I've become accustomed to the slifes yeah then I bought and then a lot of gays would use that because it couldn't get married and then my

origin is once they got married that kind of went away and so if you are in a non marriage and you're in a transactional thing where one of you makes the bunny and maybe one takes care of the home or the kids or the pets you've got to make sure that there is a if you're not married some type of agreement where you're like for a year we're together I get a million dollars or buy me this piece property it's called real estate from a real reason it's real property it

can't be jewelry that can be stolen it can't you be lost on a trip on the sea it can't be revoked you know like put my name on a real piece of property and then your nasty kids can't take

it from me when you die and they act like I never I never was there for 12 Christmas is yeah

then you was seen with he's got a girlfriend some girl from love island I'm tired of him and all his little 23 year old girlfriends well she was she has a house in Kyle has a house in Nashville and she's been spotted by many people enjoying a cute lunch with Morgan Wade I'm going to make

we're just friends but good for her good for her she's chasing she's a fun town she's a Sierra chasing west or they or they just have a good time together um I could see her moving on from the house was I'm very curious to know yeah who will be in the cast next season I

“think they'll be a big shake up and Beverly Hills I think they're has to be at this point”

and they're moving towards such younger cast now like Rhode Island just premiered very uncast besides I think this one woman who looks like Dolores who from New Jersey pops over to like bring it together but they had one episode and the juiciest part of it is there's this really pretty girl who's like 30 who is a um lives in an enormous gorgeous home and she's had this boyfriend for like 10 years or something and they're not married and she doesn't

have kids and he just goes lives in Miami for six months when it's better to be in Miami than Rhode Island and then when it's nice and Rhode Island then he's her boyfriend and she just waits around for six months but she doesn't have to work so it pays off and she comes out with story right away because she's like this is probably where they picked me yeah and I think because they're not married either he doesn't even know she's doing this and she's like well if you break up with me

at least I've got a job yeah or he or she's like well you're gonna realize how great I am and you're gonna get rid of miss Miami but I mean now everybody knows who he is who probably they've figured out who the woman he spends with in Miami I mean you know and his dad was some famous judge or something and so he's their very very wealthy and he's so that I think is pretty juicy yeah I mean I think shows look I mean it's at this point the

playbook has become so transparent right like Bronwyn you you're in a weird situation so you

go on the show to give you your second leg and then you can leave the relationship and

you know you either get your real estate license or you get on the real housewives and then

“sometimes you have to do both yeah sometimes you have to do both I mean I don't I honestly”

don't know if Rhode Island has legs that's my hot take I wasn't I kind of like look I'm I'm curious I think it's interesting groups of people I think that people have said you're gonna die there's so much like juice behind it so they said about Dubai it's what they said about the Rooney reboot well we'll see it's what they said about the baby like the Ashley eyes interesting she's from the bachelor I was a fan of her because she was like an old virgin and she then falls along with

the other guy she went on that was in the bachelor franchise they have two of the most beautiful

boys they kind of both they kind of look like brother and sister first of all and then they made like

these beautiful like eyes are like I don't know they're just really cute and so she's in the thick of it now she's too little boys they run this coffee shop but he was from Rhode Island so like she gets in it and I think that's interesting but it's a lot it's like they're screwing it all so young now that it's just a lot of childrearing and I'm like I don't know I mean I think the sweet spot of housewives is you are married and you have some kids but they're kind of older

and they're not really part of it like maybe they're like 12 and above yeah and so you have time to go out and go on things and you're not looking like a bad mom if you go spend a week in Ireland or whatever like they're and I just feel like right now there's a lot of shows that are a lot about little babies and little kids but whatever might be good I don't think it has legs all right I think it needs a scandal to keep it around otherwise it's gonna die like Dubai

all right the rally came back on the poster there's 13 people that doesn't include Jesse's

girlfriend that's come to the play let's see the juiciest part was Lala who her second daughter so

so she went and you know they part they shared it on Vanderpump rules and everything that she after having the breakup of her relationship with her ex who produced her daughter ocean then she wanted to have another baby so she got one to a sperm bank and when I was talking to Lala back then and she was telling me about it I go are you gonna buy the whole lot and she goes what do you mean

“and I said if you can afford to or if they can give you a deal you should buy the whole lot”

because I have friends who have done this and then they find out you know that oh well maybe it's nice but maybe it's not my kid actually there's 13 other people but you could also not know and possibly those two people could fall in love whatever it's just so if you can

fiancee and they have a baby together that so so looks like him and then he goes I actually

did don't eat sperm and she's like haha but not to my sperm bank and he goes no I did and then they go back and they're like she's like he's he's this he has a business to create and he's like I do have a business to create like but I think did did it follow up that they actually did a test eventually and it's not his kid right well it's definitely not his kid because

“she saw what the guy's looked like you have to see if he didn't this is what you don't know”

really they give you only baby photos they give you baby photos or childhood photo photos he's you could kind of see like I told her my friend who did it okay but she did it

22 years 20 something years ago as a single woman she was 40 and she I go how did you choose

and she said I chose a sperm that I mean I chose a man which I only saw baby photos that looked like me because she was blonde and and fair and she's just like I want the baby to look like me if I'm gonna have a baby yeah and so I said that to Lola too I'm like you aren't want to like you know choose somebody that really kind of looks like you and I said and she said they only show you the like childhood photos so you could kind of go all of this sort of

looks or I whatever because you could run into them you could find them you might recognize them from Tinder like it's to protect the the donor interesting so I don't know if that works

“the same with eggs it doesn't but at least and I think baby any place could have their own rules”

yeah you know what I mean I think if if it's like hey if you're willing to show your you at every stage of your life then your egg will go more because go for more because people kind of really want to see how you grow up to be me I think anything can be negotiable it's just up to your thing yeah I guess so yeah and like so anyway I think we I think I read somewhere that eventually they're spoiler alert they do do a DNA test or saying but the reality of them springing on her in that moment was

beautiful reality like and then when they reveal it like on the after show and the guys didn't know like that is that is not acting no and that was really and they put them side by side and it's like and he looks exactly like the little girl yeah like sparkling blue eyes and like fair and who knows but you know it's good they're right now Christian and she are getting along and Christian is not getting along with um what's her name what's the girl's name

Michelle Janice Janet Janet and I thought this was it they have a pool party off camera and Brittany invites everybody it's hottest shed its summer okay I really felt for Janet in the story so she invites Janet and she invites Kristen and Kristen's like Janet better than

not becoming and Brittany's like oh she's thought I'm not gonna come she always flakes don't worry

about she won't come she won't come just come she won't come Janet it's fucking hot a shit yeah it's the valley Brittany has a nice pool she's a toddler all kids want to do is go swimming okay okay that's the scary part because many of them can't swim so it's like not a good time for you until they're like dead but they want to go swimming and she goes I went there and the Kristen's immediately like what's she doing here so she used to get her kid and leave

and when Janet said much and right wrote Brittany and was like why did you invite me now my baby is crying and like yeah I just thought Brittany I know you have a heart the heart the size of Kentucky but like you don't fucking do that one involves kids and a pool I don't like that was

“sorry but you don't invite to people and then I know like you need to go like I we've all had”

that situation where you either invite one or you go are you guys cool to be together and once as yes once as no one goes you know what invite them I'm gonna bow out you don't and then say bring your kids where a toddler is like all with his like little wings on it's like come on that's awful anybody Janet you have a pool Janet I wanted my beautiful part of I feel so bad like I really feel badly and then and then Brittany goes and she has fun with

the guy that she's no longer with but they went to college like I got my sparkle back and I mean but I do what I what I now what I actually really like about featuring crews is I'm thinking

think in his case it will be interesting if having the camera went around maybe that's beneficial

“I think some people might have been like this maybe isn't I don't know no we've never really tried it”

before like having other people around and he seems to like them like he seems to be like going up to Jackland the Rita with her son on jersey housewives remember we didn't I feel like we didn't see him that much I don't know because your brother has autism I kind of want to ask you like I don't know I thought it when she did the sensory room I thought that was really cool yeah that's coming up I think yeah I don't know if she does as she goes I did I put everything in his playroom the way they do it at the

therapy yeah and I thought that is really cool because there's people at home that might really get some great ideas from her I think that's the the biggest beneficial piece and I think even with Jacqueline you know I remember when she was going through that and I'm still really good friends with Jacqueline to this day when you see someone going through you just you feel seeing like you get it you understand and then you see things that they're doing and you know you're

able to to kind of support each other even though it is kind of through the TV and Brittany and I have DM to about it a bit and you know I just told us like listen I have every resource you could ever want just you know let me know what you need and I'm here to help you at any point because I mean it's tough and it's nice to see crews at least reacting in a positive way and not being not being overwhelmed by the cameras because it can go either way but it seems like you know

he's enjoying himself and and I would imagine that also you know it makes things easier for her too

“yeah I mean she's just positive and doing it her own I mean do we know where Jacqueline is?”

Last week heard he was what living in Tom Schwartz is the apartment built in remember he moved in and I just wonder like I mean it sounds like she's not getting support from him no and and it sounds like he doesn't have an income yeah I don't know what his podcast is gone his tour got canceled his I don't know what he's doing I mean he's probably I could see him doing

like a cam soda deal you know cam soda is always reaching out to the reality stars to have cam soda

is this a joke what is cam soda but it's a streaming like adult streaming oh I thought you been like a soda no I was like like a soda drink and I'm like you know like pop beer something I was like what are you talking about oh well I could see him going what who is that I hope Chad bad Chad from the bachelor I he did need pivoted to only fans I could see Jackson going in that direction Jen Shaw oh god she did her people magazine which by the way

I predict that I think I only set it up my live show and Salt Lake but she was on the cover of people or did a people interview which they filmed and the little bit that I saw you know what don't miss yeah no don't miss you at all don't wander back on the show don't meet her back she still it felt very little still no accountability like not until I was you know walking to the courthouse did I realize that they're actual real victim she still not saying like

we were scamming people but I didn't think it would bleed to you know then ending their life or being destitute I just thought we were scraping from the top from a lot of people just be honest yeah like you're not being honest so I don't want to see you ever again yeah well that's she's just like you know I didn't realize that what I was doing was wrong and then I had to take accountability once I did realize it was wrong it's like no you knew it was wrong because the

feds were investigating you for years and we saw the messages where you're instructing your team to get rid of the servers yeah you moved your operations over to coast of Oak I mean they were they they don't bring you they don't put get put together a federal case because you know they were like oh she's on the housewives and has a Gucci bag like there's a lot so yeah they investigated and she knew that they were gonna come to her because all the other all the other people

that were part of this part of the other pieces of this fraud scheme they were all going down and they were all flipping on each other so she was inevitably going to get pulled into it

“and that's why she's like I'm innocent and I'm fighting for people that don't have the means and”

it was just it was such a bad idea I don't think anyone one is bad this is my prediction and

they're not always right I don't think she's gonna be picked up for other shit no I don't think

there's anything funny juicy compelling Theresa like one of our hearts over she was interesting like when her case was different yeah and Theresa it was been puzzled and it wasn't a malicious thing that she was actively doing like this that was your whole business and you're walking around

performance so I never liked her and I'm just like I don't care about you and coacha and the

Polynesian cultural center I don't care what your life I don't care about you please I watch please don't come back to Salt Lake I watched the full interview and there were moments where she would she's charismatic and there were moments where I was like oh you know and then I was like no that she's a con one like this is what she thought turned you on no I don't think about just like about the hemorrhide pads that she put her face she's like she's like the ultra of prison

I learned how to get hemorrhide pads and use them to as an astringent for your face

“like there were just moments where I believe that she you know she's literally pretty”

she does look good um where she's like you know the restitution it's more pain everybody like there were just little moments where she would just come across soft and then I was like no that's literally her whole thing she's a con woman yeah she knows exactly what to say and how to you know how to lower her voice and like how to do all of these things

to make you you know like her Taylor Freaker Paul the latest is she says she's moved away

from the Mormon church but she does believe in Jesus and she did a whole thing that got you know a hundred thousand likes she went away with her older kids and thanked some company that I guess sponsored her and many people have been subpoenaed for the temporary restraining order that Dakota has tried to put on her so that you're going forward with that Dakota's also been cut out of the villa footage of where the dad talks went to the villa which is coming out

that happened and also Jesse who does hair who had enough who had a affair with Marcyana from the villa they're posting that they're a couple now and everyone's just like exactly

“everyone is like I think I'm tired yeah I'm exhausted when I saw Jesse and Marcyano at Sologave”

in Salt Lake City and I and then Harry Jowsey's jumping in and he's like commenting and posting like his text thread with them being like what's going on I was just like I'm tired like you guys are doing too much and it's just like it's it's fatigue like the only one I like is Whitney because she's just like I'm out of this drama I'm doing Broadway I'm with Marc Ballas and we're doing Broxy Har and like we want no part of that drama and I'm like you're the only one that I

actually like even like right now the rest of them are doing TikToks and doing videos and like trying to like Jesse stuff just looks so bad like we had like Jordan stuff I think is she's like scared that's a show's gonna go away completely from Salt Lake City and only film in Orange County with the other girls that have moved in their new cast and she can't even a real show yet

“okay well I think she's striving and I understand why she's got kids she has you know a couple”

baby daddies I think her maybe she only has one but I wish a couple kids she has a huge business she could not go pick up and go to LA for a hundred thousand dollars a year to be on a show yeah so she's got to keep the she's got to keep the filming in Salt Lake City yeah so I think she's doing whatever it is and in the meantime she was attracted to Marcia to let them walk around and party who cares yeah um I want to thank you so much for coming Zach tell everybody

where they can follow you you do great work yeah great work taking down Blake lightly this is Mary campaign now just gonna be uh Zach Peter all over the internet my podcast called no-filts with Zach Peter it streams five days a week YouTube Spotify Apple all the places and everything for me isn't how the McDonald dot net thank you so much love you bye