Episode 658: Jimmy Savile Part I - Clowns Get Away with Murder

This is the last talk. On the left.

Let's go to the cannon for some started.

“I think it's important to get the funny stuff out of the top, because today's episode is about”

a funny person. I think that's the term most for him, right? I'm using. I think that's the term most for him, right? I'm using.

He's amusing, and so maybe we can make, you know, give it a little light up top. Sure. Knock knock. Who's there? Jimmy Savel.

Jimmy Savel, who? I think you fucking know. What do you mean? What's going on here? Are you attacking me?

Yes. Are you afraid of dying? I don't know. I don't know.

“You knew I was going on the other time, and you in it, and I knew you fucking knew”

something, and I fucking can't believe that you were part of the fucking problem. I don't know. I don't know. I shouldn't do anything about it. Well, gonna last back as a love ladies and gentlemen, my name is Marcus Parks.

I'm here with the indignant rage field, Henry Zabrowski. This might be the most angry I've been. I think that I like Heinrich Himmler more. Wow. I could spend a longer lunch with Heinrich Himmler than today's subject.

I will say, all right, okay, here about this. Himmler tried to do stuff for other people. Interesting. Interesting concept. That's a good intro for any.

We have, according to Henry's bed, former employee at the BBC, Ed Larson. What's going on? It's going on. I'm just gonna, I'm just one of those. Oh, I don't see nothing.

I don't see anything. That's actually going to be a common catch phrase for the next eight hours of this series. Get you see nothing. Well, once he goes behind closed doors, what am I going to do? What you're more to do?

He's just a man.

“You have to trust a guy who's got ten flats in a rape band.”

That's always, yeah. At least he keeps a moving direction rape caravan today.

We are on to the second head on our Mount Rushmore of evil.

Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to find the reveal it. It's Jimmy Savel. No, you're going to immediately. I can hear people being like, oh my God, I can't believe you're doing this. But we had a really strong case as to why he's our British head.

Okay. Yeah. Well, let's get into it. Let's start making that case. The Sir, Jimmy Savel, was one of the most prolific sexual predators that England has ever

produced, a cunning, devious sociopath who used his fame as a broadcaster to rape, molest, and sexually abuse, hundreds if not thousands of children, teenagers, and adults. And he did all of this while he used charitable activities as a smoke screen for his crimes. I will say thousands might not be an exaggeration. No.

And also, if saying that he's one of the worst in England, ever is making him pretty high up for all time. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. He's got it. Yeah. He's got his father hanging out there. Yeah.

He got a lot of guys. Lots of kings ago. You got the guy who rewrote the Bible. Yeah. The Big Lebowski joke puts him in the run and for lazy used in the world.

But even though Jimmy Savel's reign of terror lasted throughout the second half of the 20th century, his crimes unfortunately came to light only after his death in 2011. Although rumors about Savel's proclivities had existed since the 1960s, but even with the rumors. Jimmy Savel was perhaps the most famous British citizen of the 20th century who was almost

entirely unknown outside of the United Kingdom. The Savel's stick as a working class British weirdo didn't really work anywhere else in the world because Savel's sinister machinations were so specifically tailored to the British. Lot of vinegar, lot of mayonnaise. But while his non-British cultural footprint was so small that we didn't even know how

to properly pronounce his name in America when his crimes came to light, we called them Jimmy Savel for years. Oh yeah, Jimmy Savel was an institution unto himself in the United Kingdom for nearly half a century. Jimmy Savel was in fact perceived as a hero.

He was an example of the best of Britain.

He raised over 40 million pounds for charities throughout his life.

And that's from the 1960s up until the 2000s, considering inflation, it's hundreds of millions.

But he lent most of his support to institutions, institutions like the Duncroft approved

school for girls, leads general and firmery, stoke Mandivell hospital, and the broad more mental hospital. Each of those institutions were filled with vulnerable people, and since Savel's contributions and his fame earned the trust of the administrators, he was often given unlimited access to patients in various states of vulnerability.

These institutions, of course, were where Jimmy Savel found a large portion of his victims. Now, I remember we had a long debate when we were choosing the heads because I will even give you clues to the other two heads after this is that they are way more in the traditional aspect of the most evil men in the world, right? Where our giant systemic changes massive like, you know, world changing like fucked up shit.

But with Jimmy Savel, what we wanted to do for me, this meant a lot to me to do.

“Because I think that what he did in his crimes show truly one of the most unabashed, evil”

behaviors that a human being can do, which is take the most sacred art form of entertaining people.

Like I literally do believe the idea of the the entertainer and you earn an audience's trust.

And then the idea of somebody taking that very, very, very pure relationship and using it solely for rape is a thing that we're just seeing a lot of. And I think that it's a truly 20th century issue and we have one for president. So I think that's kind of why this means a lot to me. Yeah.

And you're trying to take back the haircut. Yes. I do have a lot of opinion because unfortunately, Jimmy Savel of all of the evilest fox in a whole world, he looked good, right? And my mind, he had some funny looks drop, you're going to shake your head.

You don't understand. He looks up, shaking his head. No, no. I'm saying that you don't look good. Yeah.

That's fine. That's fine. It's not a joke. It's a joke. He looks like Timothy Chamley.

Yeah. Accidentally, but people all said, oh, he's this cookie thing, but the look was one of the most important aspects of his entire personality. It really was. Now, as far as why Jimmy Savel was famous in the UK, he got in on the ground floor when

pop music became important in the late 50s, and especially in the early 60s. His audience was there for permanently between the ages of 13 and 18 teenagers. And he had the advantage of already being in his 30s when the British music scene exploded. See, besides being a radio DJ and an established personality on the BBC, Savel was starting

in 1964, the first presenter of the legendary British countdown show Top of the Pops, which

was something like a cross between American band Stan and Total requests live around from 1964 until I think 2006. Damn. It went that long. Yeah.

If it helps our American audiences, you can think of Jimmy Savel as playing much the same role as like Dick Clark, Carson Daley, Orion C. Crest. But the power and the fame that those men had or still have in America, it pales in comparison to what Jimmy Savel enjoyed in the United Kingdom. He also got a little dusting of a Bill Cosby to him in terms of his love of children.

And more, who his involvement with children, I mean, more than a dusting of Bill Cosby.

“I mean, I think Bill Cosby is much, much, much funnier.”

Yeah. Bill Cosby is the reason why he inspired me as a little boy. Yeah. But the idea of like a beloved institution, like being, like proved to be an absolutely vile human being, yeah, Bill Cosby is the best one-to-one analog between American.

Because also his connection to the civil rights movement, what he meant to America, because he was supposed to showness has been like, look, he's this healthy example of an African-American father, raise it. His families are professional, he's an old, old, old, the ads and all the stuff. And then fantastic jazz musician.

Yeah. Like his taste and jazz man, we used to get in college. We anytime a new Bill Cosby thing came out. We lost our minds. Yeah.

Dude, I thought you just can't be a new Anthony or I'm like, "When I'm a sub-little, I went to a fucking C. Herbie Hancock, right when I moved to New York City, Carnegie Hall, the whole night was hosted by Fucking Bill Cosby. It was a cool thing in the world at the moment. Yeah.

And do you remember right before he was the ball to shit at the fan two, he was about to go back on tour, and he was doing shows. Oh, yeah. It was all right. It was doing two hours shows.

And what did it do to you when everything came out about Bill Cosby? It was a good destroyed. I was fucked up for like a year about it. You know, and then I'm going to obsessed with it and studying it.

“And everybody was and just like Jimmy Savel, that's how he got away with it.”

It's because nobody wanted the fucking believe that I was true. Nobody wanted to believe because of how much we put in on these guys.

To that point, Jimmy Savel was also the host of the wildly popular children show

Jimmel Fixet, in which Savel acted as a sort of fairy godmother with a harsh York shirt accent, children from across the UK would write letters asking Jimmy to make their wishes come true. No matter how silly or outlanders they might be, think of Jimmel Fixet like make a wish. But if it wasn't just open to kids who were sick or died.

“Yeah, if it wasn't just a bomber, I think that's a socks man.”

You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it.

You got it. You got it. You got it. But that is true. It is make a wish without the bomber.

You know, it's just making kids happy. They filmed. So the kids could say and do the darnedest things. Yeah. For example, one kid might ask to meet Donie and Marie Osmond and Jimmel Fixet, and he'll

make that happen. Another kid like actually a listener just wrote in with a picture of his father with Jimmy Savel. He said that his friend was a guest on Jimmel Fixet and his friend asked if he could be one of Santa's elves at the North Pole for an afternoon and Jimmy Savel made it happen.

My personal favorite is the little girl who wanted to be a rat. Oh.

“They just dressed her up as a rat and she awkwardly wandered around the studio dressed”

as a rat. Just gone. Rarely. Pretty kids have all the wrong dreams. Yeah.

They're like, he has slave-making toys. Oh, yeah. I have like you to maybe hold some cone on the one and what it's like to feed some heat. Oh, what is it not to be so odd to ask?

Maybe it's just because rat left teeth. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. But even though Jimmy Savel hated children and openly said so on multiple occasions, even

while Jimmel Fixet was still on the air, he said, "Aww, don't rock it." He knew it was good TV and the show ran for decades as one of the BBC's main states. I think it was on the air for 20 years. Yeah.

It's a row thing, he said he always said that he hated children to deflect from any

accusation. No, he's a piece of fucking shit. Yeah. Jimmy Savel literally said the term he was like, "Because he could say like, "Skids, "because then he'll get done up like Mike Jackson."

Right? Like, that was his whole thing. And then they'll come from like, "Because he's got all the Mike." Of course, he called the Mike. Yeah.

Yeah. And so they, yes, but we'll go, even, this is the story of this whole miserable evil life. And that was just something that he said that to Louie Thoreau years later, in an interview he did in 1991.

He just straight up said, "Yeah, I don't like kids. "I don't have to like kids to do this show." It was the way he said it because it was this ex, he openly said, because it's just a hard thing to even get in the weeds on of how he was saying openly what his crimes are and what he was doing.

So, but to comedic effect, so when he was saying stuff like, "Oh, I hate kids. "I can't, I use them for their opportunities. "These people are all smiling because they're like, "simple country man, saying it like it is like, he doesn't really mean it." Obviously, he loves kids.

Sounds like a fucking joke.

No, he was a, he never said a single joke in his life.

Yeah. But while you'd think that Jimmel fix it with Savel's one-way ticket, straight to pedophile town. You'd think. You'd think.

It was more his work in the music business and the world of charity that gave Savel most of his opportunities to commit criminal sexual acts. Where is pedophile town? I think it's in Ohio. No.

We all know it's in Florida. That's where they vacation. So, Jimmel Savel is primarily known as a pedophile or pedophile, as the British say. Yeah, it's a skier that way.

“I think just calling him a pedophile, that greatly narrows the scope of Jimmel's evil.”

He abused not only pubescent children of both sexes, but also infants, teenagers, adults, and infants. And at times, the elderly, his youngest victim was two, his oldest was 75. And that's what we know. Yes.

Through his charitable works, Jimmel Savel gained unsupervised access to patients with spinal injuries and mental illness, people who were being treated in England's hospitals. And it was in these hospitals that Savel would rape hundreds of helpless, disabled, and sick people of all ages. And there were even rumors of necrophilia, and that shit honestly, I do think there's

kernels. There is. And we're going to get to that. Yeah. So, that's all to say that if Jimmel Savel thought that he could get away with abusing someone

sexually, he did it. Because Jimmel Savel's most dangerous, supervillain power was an innate understanding of where the line was, what he could get away with. And he, therefore, constructed an entire life that was designed solely to fulfill those twisted carnal desires.

Yeah. Because he was very, unfortunately, kind of smart, and kind of he was a, he was fucking

He was wildly smart.

“They believe he had his IQ tested in the 30s at 151.”

He was a, he's wildly wildly smart, and has no emotional base.

He keeps saying stuff like I have no feelings. And I actually believe in many ways he does not have feelings, but they say with psychopathy and sociopathy is that it actually does sometimes fire up your emotional IQ in a different way where you don't understand your own emotions, but you can actually gain access to how other people feel a little bit easier when your own feelings are not in play.

So he actually has more clear, headed view of all times of how to manipulate people. Yeah. He understands people on a different level, and it's like one of those things when like, if every single person is your friend, then nobody's your friend. Exactly.

You know, everything's shallow. Yeah. There's nobody in the effect, except for a gym to pill. Yeah. I don't like gym to pill.

I don't know.

“Now, Savile had a carefully crafted public persona that was years in the making.”

He realized from a young age that there were, as he put it, opportunities in being different for those dazzled by his celebrity, the descriptors that came up again and again in relation to Jimmy Savile were oddball, eccentric, a bit weird. And all that is true. He was really fucking weird.

He acted weird, and he looked weird. His hair was bleached and cut in the old school British Page Boy style, straight and

shoulder length, and he dressed mostly in track suits or in costumes, and he would never

explain the costumes purpose. He dressed up as a pharaoh, and not tell anyone why he was dressed as a pharaoh. In the words, Jimmy Savile lived his life as a clown, and his John Wayne Gacy so famously put it, clowns get away with murder. He is one of those accidental magical figures that is hard to describe, because when he talks

about the power of audience, he is literally channeling Alistair Crowley, he is talking the way of Anton Levet, he is talking about the very core of carny-like personal entrantment that you'll find in this satanic witch, all these other books, he is talking about it naturally. He understood naturally, this idea of I create an unbelievable silhouette, an iconic version of myself, you'll never believe I have a real life.

Yeah, any understood true opportunity. I become another worldly person, you treat me like an other worldly person, which means I don't have the same rules as you, true. For those who saw past the celebrity in their interactions with Jimmy Savile, he was clocked as creepy for decades, the descriptors that those people used going back to the fifties

were intimidating, combative, and most often, menacing. Jimmy Savile openly and proudly said in multiple interviews that he had no emotions towards others that he didn't have feelings, and what you saw was what he got. In other words, he was very much admitting to being a full psychopath without actually saying the word.

But for the British people, all that was waved away is him just being eccentric, refreshing, really, and Savile thrived at a time when it was not only accepted in England to say that you didn't really give a fuck about other people. But you could be applauded for it, admired for it, and emulate it. Thank you, Margaret Fucking Thatsher.

Yeah. And we're right back in it. Yep. And we are. We're right back in it, back in the sauce where it's okay, it's it's it's you're supposed

to say, I don't care about anybody else.

“I care about me, my family, and that's what I'm care about anybody else.”

That's why to pedophile government, like literally like, no, like before, look, one of those things, because you're watching this, and you're like, it's so, I mean, obviously hindsight, you know, but it's so obvious that he's such a fucking creep in a horrible human being. But again, that's the power, that's the magic. That is literally what you see what you mean by enchantment is that you are your thoughts

or bouncing off the shield that he has created. And it's thick. Yeah, it's truly, it's truly a bewitchment. Yes. You might as well have ran like a teen beauty petitions.

Yeah, we're right. I really is the one thing you didn't do. But speaking of the arts conservative British Prime Minister Margaret Thatsher, Jimmy Savall

was extremely close to this incredibly powerful villain.

Him and Margaret Thatsher were friends. And in the end, Savall would not have gotten away with his crimes without facing an ounce of consequence had it not been for the powerful connections he made throughout his career. Connections like Margaret Thatsher. Jimmy Savall had so much influence in the United Kingdom that he was able to test his luck

with the most powerful people in the country. At the time, he licked Princess Diana right around the time he received his nighthood from the Queen. And again, all of these is the fun and games. If you didn't turn out he was molesting.

No, it's a fun and game, you can't lick your prints. You can't lick a woman.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I couldn't look. I.

“You can't lick someone that you just need.”

You can't lick people.

Larry did it that one time in the video.

Oh. Oh. Where are you? You're right. You can't lick a dog.

You don't want to run here. You're going to be a lot of Harry Territory. But even though Jimmy Savall assaulted the princess of the realm, perhaps the most beloved person in all of England, his influence over the culture was so dominant that the licking was simply another indignity for Diana to endure after she joined the pit of vipers that

was the British royal family. Travel actually had an extensive and close relationship with all of the royals, specifically the man who is now King Charles. He was of course Prince Charles back then. And as we now know, the royal family is full of pedophiles and sexual monsters, monsters

like Prince Andrew or Lord Mount Baton who also has the nickname Lord Mount Bottom. And his heinous and incredibly under-reported crimes are going to be covered in episode 3. Marcus. Arthur.

Two words. Netflix UK. Yeah. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, we say if they don't like this, kind of, talk, get out of this.

It's too fun and like, do you stop by here or not, we're fucking going out, yeah, man. It's not just a because it's so hard to find the stuff that BBC put out about Jimmy Savall. Oh, they buried everything they could to bury it from America. We're fucking, I'm, I don't give a shit.

I'm torrenting it. We literally couldn't get ahold of the Louis-Throw episode and go find it, you could throw the other means. I had to throw them. There's one.

The first one. That's on Daily Motion.

And the second one's on what?

What is it? Yeah. It was on the fucking everyone. It's disgusting place. Yes.

Yeah. I'll find it. Let's begin at the BBC. This is not just the story of one man sociopathy. This is also the story of how that psychopath was protected by the powers that be at

every turn. So the reason why people refer to Savall mostly as a pedophile is because his main victim pool was young teenage girls.

“And this was an open secret at the BBC for decades.”

In fact, there is footage of Jimmy Savall gushing a teenage girl repeatedly during an episode of top of the pops, like they're coming back from a commercial and he's gooseish. He's going, ah, ah, ah. And he's just fucking staring at the camera delivering his lines. It is so obvious that it is insane that no one said anything publicly at the time.

But the fact that many of Savall's crimes happen on BBC property, ensured that Jimmy Savall

was always protected by the BBC.

Additionally, Jimmy Savall was such a sure fire moneymaker for the BBC that they did everything they could to protect his reputation even after his death. There were a lot of episodes of Jim will fix it that could run forever. The reason about his crimes that were held back while he was alive for fear of liable suits were still spiked by the BBC in the months after his passing.

And mostly the BBC did this to protect their fucking programming schedule because they had planned multiple tributes to Savall's life that were set to be aired during the 2011 Christmas season. Because there's nothing that the British love more than a Christmas special. You know I just found out, John Lythgal was talking about how the only movie he's really

known for in the UK is his Christmas movie, the Santa Claus movie, the British go nuts for Christmas special. I think it's the most British holiday in Christmas, and I've spent a Christmas in Britain. It is magical. Because there's something about it's little socks, there's something about everybody's

at the chimney. There's lots of chimneys. Lots of chimneys, there's about big fat man coming in the house at night, fucking meat in your food, big British thing, the hats, they like to cover hats, the crackers. They love all that stupid stuff.

Okay. Once we'll slice it, we'll suck it over shit. Oh, my question is, is it doesn't, but is it their main thing is because they're liable and slender laws are really serious in the UK. Very serious.

And that's kind of not to explain BBC's behavior at all, it's not like an America where people go back and forth on defamation all the time and nothing really happens. Like you can lose a fuck ton of money. Yeah, it can be pretty serious.

“Like you have to have a headshot if you're going to do something like that.”

But that can kind of sort of explain why the BBC didn't want to print any stories while he was still alive. No, they get it to protect their reputation, but it's only because they can be sued for the rest of their lives. Maybe, I think, I don't even, maybe, well, that and, you know, their studios were just playground.

Oh, I remember I'm Felicia Rashad showed me the, when I went to go do, I was shooting

a shot and she showed me his special nap room.

“I always remember that one of the most special memories of my life.”

Yeah, truly one of the nicest, happiest memories I'd ever had up until that point. Yeah. And still, John, love that, I miss I took it out. I just slapped there, I took my pants honestly, I just had to kind of celebrate Bill, I took my pants out of my ankles and I fell asleep right there.

But he didn't come. Oh, he didn't come.

No, I never, I thought that he would be like the tooth fair.

He thought he'd show up. I'm gonna say, come here. No, I'm gonna ask for the doers, go to the job, what, oh no, it's too late. I'm a coma man, sad to do that. That's the thing, is that you know what?

That's one of those, keep right up here. We'll keep moving. Keep an end here. Keep an end here. We're gonna couple of those this time.

Yeah. No, people's time. I mean, it's amazing how hard this hold on celebrity people can have. Because you know, I was telling you guys, like we had to use a notary to sign some documents the other day and this dude like openly told it like, yeah, we used to live in Brooklyn.

And he's like, oh, yeah, I'm a huge Cosby show fan, the show, the show, the Cosby show, I love Bill Cosby, but the show, and it's like dude, it is 2026. Dude, dude, you're a bunch of shows that have happened in Brooklyn.

“That's, I think it's show, and I had to get through it, so I was just like, yeah,”

I used to live in bed style. That's where they're at. Those brown stones. Because the told thing was he loved the brown stone. He's gone wrong.

Interesting. If you're asking, by Jimmy Savel is one of the heads on our Mount Rushmore of Evil

instead of say another notorious sexual monster with connections to multiple powerful institutions.

There are two reasons why Savel beats out the other obvious contender here, Jeffrey Epstein. For one, the story of Jeffrey Epstein is nowhere near over. His story changes and grows with every drop of information that comes out. And we can't tell his story because we simply still don't know what Jeffrey Epstein's story is.

And that's why he won legitimately. He is in heaven celebrating every day. No, you're talking about Savel? Jeffrey Jeffrey Epstein. No, you don't want Jeffrey Epstein.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. So you don't think Savel made it to have it? Oh, no, yeah, he's right there. Charlie Kirk.

Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson. I get to see each other again, it's one of the nicest places in the world because we know that Jimmy Savel died with a smile on his face. He did.

Yeah.

Secondly, Jeffrey Epstein never pretended to be good.

Savel, on the other hand, used the trust of the British people and the levers of charity as constant opportunities to fulfill his most deviant desires. Savel perverted good for the sake of committing pure evil. And he inflicted that psychic destruction across an entire country in the process. This is true evil.

This is the type of evil that makes people less trusting of each other. This is the type of evil that destroys people's faith in humanity and therefore makes the world a far worse place. And that shit spiders out in 2026, that shit spiders out across the globe. It's so much pain.

Yeah. So much pain he caused. And the thing about Epstein, too, I really believe in many ways of all of the things. He only existed because of the systemic needs for a guy like him. Yeah.

He filled a lot of purposes for a lot of guys. He was on Jeffrey Epstein's own team. He worked for the Russians, the Israelis, and us. He did all in one. He was contemplated.

But in the end, he was making money off of institutionalized businesses, like, you know, using finance and and using all this kind of shit. So it's like the to him, Jeffrey Epstein, unfortunately still was a pedophile second, right? He was a international man of mystery first. Yeah.

Then he was a pedophile. Pedophiles, what he did to relax, right, being a spy was what he was doing for work.

“So Jimmy Savel, though, the only thing he was concentrated on was rape.”

Yeah, it's just sexual predator threw in through that. He built his entire life around that. Yeah. And Savel, he was like, he didn't, did he do it for other people, too? Like, did he like, like, did he sell people?

I don't know. People, but he shared people. Yeah. It was all, but at the end of the day, it really was just all about Jamie Savel. And it wasn't about because, like, with Epstein, a lot of it was about gaining power,

getting leveraged, gaining connections with Savel. It was just about him all the time. I'm your friend. Now, we used a lot of sources for this series, but our main source is an incredible book called In Plain Sight by Dan Davies goes a little too deep on the BBC drama.

It's a bit of a, he took the plane to the train, but, you know, it's on so forth. But it is still a fascinating look into the life of Jamie Savel.

It's great. Yeah.

“And that book is supplemented by the Beast by John McChain and the Untouchable”

Jimmy Savel by Sean Atwood, as well as multiple articles and documentaries that exist about Jamie Savel. No, this all come out after, none of these came out before it does. Not a single one. Not a single story came out about, like an actual story, not a single one came out when

Jamie Savel still alive.

I definitely had never heard his existence before the Netflix series.

Yeah. Yeah. And so without further ado, let's get into the life of one of the UK's greatest monsters, the second head on our Mount Rushmore of Evil, Sir, Jimmy Savel. So James Wilson Vincent Savel was born on what other day, but Halloween 1926 in the industrial

northern English city of Leeds. Savel's family was Catholic, and as the youngest of seven children, five years younger than the Savel family's sixth child, Jimmy always referred to himself as the not-again child, unwanted and unexpected. His father was Vince Savel, a butcher's assistant in the straight world who had a knack

for numbers, this made him exceptional at his real money-making endeavor, managing bets on horse races. He was a black market-bookie. This was at a time when most gambling was still illegal in Britain. And normally you had a bet, it would be you'd get two wet old women, and guys would

stand with, they would stand with coins, and the goal is to throw coins at their wet clothes until it filled their clothes, their pants, like the pantaloons enough, that the hands would slowly slide down, and they'd bet on which one would hit the ground first. Oh, if your coin was the one that took the trousers down, you would get all the coins in the trousers.

It also raced hogs and boys. Oh, wait just a minute, I'd be that I'd pay to see. Of course.

“I mean, I hate gambling, but some money I'm a hawk, honestly, and then you're just”

supporting farms. From what we know from our coverage about Fred and Rose West and Peter Sutcliffe, Sutcliffe, by the way, he's going to make a couple of appearances later on in this story. Great. Northern England is indeed CD is fuck.

It's got some incredibly dark corners where horrific shit happens on a regular basis. It is very similar to the American South. Because it's also idolized, right? It's idealized. It's idealized.

You know, it's very, it's the working class part of England's where, you know, you get your factories. You get here, your farmers. That's a Yorkshire's farm in land. Your skim.

Oh, be like Trump. Yeah. Be like Trump. Oh, that's all. Old York sucked.

Yeah. Old York sucked. New York. Great. All right.

Much better. Probably. Probably. Even before Jimmy Savo was born, his father Vince was involved in the black market that thrived in leads.

Later, Jimmy Savo described leads as a city of sin with illegal gambling and sex workers galore. While Jimmy Savo exaggerated and lied a lot, he was not lying about that leads was fucking rough. Now, Jimmy Savo would often describe his father as almost a non-intity in his life.

Savo said he demanded nothing from his father and his father demanded nothing from him. Likewise, Jimmy's six siblings barely rate a mention when Jimmy would spin his own myth. And he would say, I had an incredibly close relationship with my father. That was like the whole thing, right, which is he was his perfect example of a relationship in which two people sit in a room and say nothing in the future.

Like, I'm not even exaggerating.

He says that the reason why they were so close is because they had never had a conversation.

“And what about, or any of his siblings still alive?”

Yeah. Think so. And do they, well, maybe. I don't know. Because he's probably not.

Probably not actually. No. They can't be. They're still doing the numbers on my head. He paid them off as well.

Yeah. You think so? Yes. Because they said nothing. But they didn't know necessarily.

They were not a part of his life. They became satellites that he would pay off. Yeah. But the person that loomed incredibly large over Jimmy's life, which is mother Agnes.

And Jimmy always called the Duchess.

She was the only person in Jimmy's life that he spoke about on a regular basis. And it has been suggested that Jimmy was exceedingly close to the Duchess in ways that were unhealthy to say the least. It was the upper old school British. Yeah.

Yeah. Because they invented incest, right? Yeah. The British definitely invented incest. At least, you know, a mother son incest.

Thank you. Yeah. Well, it's author John McShane put it. Sure. Wasn't the Greeks?

No. Actually, they found upon incest. There was one of the things that they would punish an ancient cultures. Well, it's author John McShane put it. We'll never know, just how strong the bond was between Jimmy's and the Duchess.

Nor will we know just how far the relationship went. Which is a really gross thing considering the role considering how close a mother and son can be.

Yeah. And be in trouble about it. Good to meet you. Get out. Some of them be in trouble.

Yeah.

“So we have to take it for a little bit later.”

Well, all we know is that whatever went on between the two of them was intense and secretive.

And Savile always maintained that his mother was the only true love of his life.

Other people, however, described the Duchess as denigrating and rejecting. And it's been said that Savile's relationship with his mother led him to believe that all women were controlling and castrating. Jimmy Savile, therefore, never formed a meaningful bond with any woman throughout his life. A side, of course, from the unhealthy bond he had with the woman that he always referred to as

the Duchess. Yeah. The haunted me that I heard him say multiple times was that he didn't like being with women for more than two hours because it would give him brain damage. The brain damage thing was his cute, his cute thing about women needing the idea of having

another human need things for me. And his idea, which makes me realize that his idea of brain damage would be, I guess, a conscience? Yeah. Yeah, feeling an emotion.

Yeah. Yeah. It's brain damage. Yeah. And actually, that is exactly what it is because he used it.

He also used his brain damage to talk about women that would get attached to him. He's like, oh, they get the brain, they get the brain damage.

“And that's what brain damage is to him is attachment.”

It almost means like the idea of having personal responsibility for the emotions of another human. Yeah. Now, as I said earlier, Jimmy Savile had a meticulously crafted personality. And with that personality came a mythology.

So even though his father made good money as a black market bookie, Savile maintained that he grew up penniless and a time in place where opportunity didn't exist. It wasn't really true. It was kind of true. He said he scraped for attention, trying to survive as the youngest of seven in a working

class family living on the breadline in a northern city. Of course, he wasn't on the breadline. His family was not on the breadline. His father did just fine. But this worked wonders for the working class cred that Jimmy Savile spent his entire

life cultivating. That was partly why the Margaret Patrick loved him so much. It's like, oh, he's a small town boy, done good, you know, he brought himself up from nothing. And if he can do it, why can't everyone else?

“Just like other wonderful stars, like when people had this fucking, this made it from”

the bottom up, the kid rock, the guys that are just like, you know, guys that are just true. Yeah, he started from the bottom of the middle, higher, the income bracket and the kid. They're really tough.

Yes. You know, they're working class hero Chris Brown, I can't say nothing. I can't say nothing. I can't say nothing. Donald Trump is the guy made good.

No. See what Savile's up bringing.

He always liked to make it as tragic and dire responsible while also making himself miraculous.

He claimed that he almost died of an unknown illness when he was a child. But he would refuse to elaborate on what that illness was. He would deflect. He was just saying that when you were poor, you got ill and generally died. He would then claim that the Duchess brought him back to life by praying to a recently deceased

Scottish nun. Savile said he was on the verge of death, but when his grandmother put a mirror under his nose to see if he was still breathing, the power of the nun coarse through him and he pissed in his grandmother's eye instead of dying. And this story is a great example of Jimmy Savile's usual pattern.

It's stuff that he thought was hilarious and cute, but it's actually just kind of gross and awful. Something you'd fake laugh at if someone told it to you in a bar because the story is just so uncomfortable. Then it sort of is an entire fucking gig.

It is. And I will say that kind of, that happened to me last night. I've touched the piston, the bed instead of dying. She'll just get me with that if you love it. Yeah.

That's right. You got to plug it up. Maybe you got to plug it up. Maybe she had to stop this if we do have a waterproof blanket for her. I'm going to beg to touch you to die next time I come to your house.

I'm going to beg her to finally let go.

I'm just going to say, let these people go like, let and Julie go on a vacation. She'll just get another one. Yeah, just like, she's going to get one of the, you know, she's been like, the doctor said it. She was split into and we've just been sort of, we're going to have to keep applying this

glue to sort of keep the two sides of her together. Yes, she has noses where her eyes should be. But I do want to say is like congratulations to Frankie for finally getting her bandage off. Yeah.

She had to have another surgery and get a broken toe amputated, but now that the bandage is off and she's just running around like a good little dog. So did you keep the toe? They, we actually were so mad that we forgot to ask. Yeah.

I know. But we were on our way.

“It's like, don't forget to ask about the toe.”

Don't forget to put both me and Careley and have ADHD.

So we forgot. It's also hard in the moment and you know they're just getting an angry man. Yeah. Maybe they still got it. They probably haven't turned it in the soap yet.

Honestly. I just get a doctor. You won't tell the difference. But interestingly, back to Jimmy Savo. I'm a little bit afraid of him.

I'm afraid of him. I'm afraid of him. I'm afraid of him. I'm afraid of him. I'm afraid of him.

I'm afraid of him. I'm afraid of him. Yeah. The real story about Jimmy's childhood element might have had a bearing on Jimmy Savo's future psychopathy.

According to the Duchess, Jimmy jumped about so much as a baby that one day he finally

fell out of his pram in the hood of the pram caught the back of his neck and severed one of his muscles. Because apparently in 1920s, the prams and the strollers not very safe. No, they're all like, I saw what Oswald couple pot was in and that man returned. That's like it's mad dude, but I actually kind of believe this.

The Duchess says that he was a fucking very wildly active, literal, like an infant, like literally full of energy. He was like, there's an old man. Yes. Well, the infant Savo after the injury was unable to sit up, sleep, or close his eyes.

And he had intermittent spasms that would cause his head to twist around until he was effectively staring behind him. The ailment continued for three months, but after the Duchess prayed to the nun, she said Jimmy went to sleep, then woke up miraculously cured. This, as both Jimmy and the Duchess maintained, was evidence that Jimmy had been spared

for a special purpose. He was the miracle child, the chosen one, a man who was saved, so he could entertain the

good people of great Britain and spend every spare moment raising money for the less fortunate.

The story, however, reminds me of another infamous villain. It sounds fairly similar to the extreme physical trauma that Jeffrey Dahmer went through as a small child with his botched hernious surgery. That's fascinating. Because these sorts of traumas, if they're not taken care of correctly, they can greatly

affect a child's emotional development. And it's possible that Jimmy's the accident could have greatly contributed to a sociopathy. Jeffrey Dahmer is another person I like better than Jimmy's self.

“Like, at least Jeffrey Dahmer did it because he was in love, right?”

He was in love. And then he did say, at least, I'm sorry. He at least felt bad about it. Yes. He said, I'm sorry.

Also, Jimmy Savel couldn't cook, not all that couldn't cook, not all that fucking life. And he was a teetotler, which made you know that every one of his crimes was done with the absolute peering sober qualities of a true predator where Jeffrey Dahmer had to get a fucking blackout to do it all. Yeah.

Now, Jimmy Savel did indeed go to a Catholic school in Leeds where the nuns were known to beat children. But corporal punishment was the norm across British schools until the Education Act of 1986. So there's no secrets to be found there. Yeah.

He's got probably normal couples. Yeah. Catholic schools, however, were known especially for flogging the bare buttocks of their children, which was done by school masters, nuns, and priests. This, of course, is where the other half of Jimmy's evil may have been created.

Yeah.

“'Cause that's like a sexy scenario to be doin' out here, aren't you?”

He never knew. Actually, I want to let you know that Sister Dolores hit me in 1986, honestly, and she wasn't very sexy. But if you get Sister Dolores, Sister Kathleen on the other hand. But think about the fact that Sister Kathleen was stuck in a well or something like that.

Yeah. That would be a fun scenario for some people. My mom often accused Sister Kathleen of being a lesbian, and I don't know who was wrong in that situation. My mom was Sister Kathleen probably both.

Yeah. What else? Yeah. The woman that spanked me repeatedly when I was a child, they were like Mrs. Hastie wasn't sexy. No.

Yeah. She could put some makeup on. You never know. Catch her on the weekend? Yeah.

Maybe she took her time. She would have been more sexy. Yeah. A lot of candle. Hey, Steve.

Yes. Well, it's a well-known fact that the vast majority of sexual abusers, specifically those who abuse young children, were themselves abused. And it's speculated that Jimmy Savill might have been the victim of a Catholic priest sexual abuse.

There's no evidence. But I think it's a safe bet. Flip a coin. Is it really disgusting to say that I can genuinely see a world where he is molested. And when he is molested, he legitimately, because one of the main issues with it is that

you do believe in some level. Like, if you're getting groomed, you're believing that this is an expression of love.

That this is happening to you to quote unquote make you feel good. Right. That's a part of the fucked up religion that they use on you to groom you. One day, I'll grow up and fuck a boy.

“But I think that legitimately, that goes right into the old brain bank, which is why he'd”

go on to say I didn't hurt anybody's feelings later on. Mm-hmm. Likewise, Jimmy Savill also said that he was mostly left alone as a young child being the youngest of seven. And hell, I was the youngest of three.

And I was left alone to figure things out in the world of adults as well. So I can't even fucking imagine what it was like with seven. But I also know how close I came to being molested many, many, many, many times. And since Jimmy Savill's father was involved with shady figures in the black market, it's possible that Savill might have experienced sustained abuse by adults in his life.

The criminals, his father associated with. And that's in addition to what he may have suffered in school. The St. Savill was left alone so much. He spent a lot of time during his childhood at the St. Joseph's home for the age, which was just across the street from his house.

Their Savill helped the nuns care for the elderly in the infirm. Now, this sounds nice. But this was also where Savill developed his lifelong obsession with death. So the young Jimmy Savill was allowed to ride in the hers as a treat when an elderly resident died and the body had to be transported to the funeral.

However, even from a young age was completely detached from the deaths of these people that he'd gotten no personally. All right. And the hers was what he got when he was a good boy. Yeah.

Well, he probably didn't have to go to school that day. Yeah. As someone who was an altar boy who would get at a school to work the funerals, I kind of see this.

“But did you have your, you cover in the story when the nuns had to him?”

Like he was, there was a lady that he was got really close with.

Like with it was like one of the first times that he had kind of really showed his obsession

with dead bodies when the nun basically, like, it was like Mrs. Gracie or whatever. He's like, oh, Ms. Gracie passed and he was like, oh, I liked Ms. Gracie, but I'm maybe like, you can go kiss her goodbye. And so he'd go down into the morgue to her dead body and he'd like hang out with her dead body.

Yeah. And kind of wear it up. You see him start then should have been just a peck, you know, but also like, let's not kiss corpses. My whole thing is you could see you wave at the funeral.

Yeah. I've kissed a corpse. I've kissed one. I was forced to, I didn't want to. By whom?

I chose to kiss both. Oh, yeah. I won't kiss a corpse. I don't care what you say to me. I'm not kissing a corpse.

I don't care how hot that corpse is. I'll kiss your dead body. You can't. I'll be dead. I'll be dead.

I'll never kiss in a corpse.

Masala claimed that helping out the nuns at St. Josephs taught him that doing nice things for people isn't a bad idea that they would pat you on the head and be pleased to see you if you made their lives a little easier. But I think the real lesson Jimmy Saval learned here is that doing charitable activities can be an incredible smoke screen for getting away with anything and he learned that lesson

at quite a young age. And all these tidbits, these are gold mines for armchair psychologists like ourselves, or for authors or maybe a botcasters, whoever. But anytime Jimmy Saval was pressed to talk about any of these things and interviews beyond the surface level, he would get defensive, annoyed, and most of the time quite combative.

When Saval was interviewed for a radio foreshow called In the Psychiatrist chair in 1991, for example, the interviewer noticed that Jimmy was exceedingly edgy the entire time, like a prize fighter. He said on his toes and dissipating a punch throughout the interview, which is both fascinating and fucking chilling, Saval spent most of his mental energy talking about money.

This was the interview where Saval came straight out and said, but he didn't have emotions.

He said he had no feelings for other people, and he had never had feelings for other people.

He's all but admitting he was a sociopath and he said this in 1991 on the BBC. It's 20 years before it's crimes came to life.

“I do believe if you want to understand a villain's mind, that interview is one of the most”

interesting, incredible fucking, it is literally just talking to one of the most legendary monsters explain his own personal philosophy over and over again. Well because the reason why the guy even had him on the show was because Jimmy Saval said it was like hiatus, we're all full of shit, like he was obviously he was one of those. So he says, so would he remember the whole thing when he invited a man, and he says,

why are you even doing this show and he's just like, because you invited me, I don't go places when I'm not invited and you invited me and I always say yes, yes, I say yes to everything. And whenever you got to ask a question, I didn't see this interview, but whenever I noticed

next, they just say that every single time until they would just keep going. It's supposed to be a funny affectation and it's just like, no, we're asking for your answers. Yeah, but he would be he would be very menacing and intimidating. Yes, he was and that I feel like that was the first time when I saw that, when I saw when I listened to it in the, in this like hiatus chair, I was like, he might be the

most evil person to ever live, like literally, like literally, literally. Also, I've been, I've seen a lot of old British interviews because like, you know,

I like rock and roll shit and they're always combatant.

Oh, yeah, that's the shit.

“Oh, they're like, now I seem to remember a time and perhaps you had done something that was, but some”

my cartilage, I wouldn't call it legally, but he's my cartilage. It's always the same side, like it's like they just know British journalists got damn their fucking vicious. Then nothing scarier than a pretty sure one. That never, if you're in the room talking with Louie Thoreau, you fucked up, like if you're

in the room being interviewed by Louie Thoreau, you're bad guy, yeah, it's bad news. The Bimborn in 1926, Jimmy Savel was a part of the World War II generation. But while many English families struggled during the war, the Savel's did just fine as the Nazis did their best to bring England to its knees, because Vince Savel was deeply connected to the lead's black market.

Jimmy was also involved in that black market, and he claimed that when he was 14 years old,

he began hanging out at a dangerous leads dance hall called the Mecca La Carnau. Now, the Mecca dance halls were a chain that had locations all over England. They were very popular. And as the war dragged on, the Mecca dance halls in each English city became focal points for the communities.

The place where everyone could go and relax and maybe forget about the blitz for a second. But it just so happened that the community in leads, it was as sleazy as they came. And as Savel put it, while hanging out at the Mecca La Carnau, he became the confidant of murderers, horrors, black marketers, and crooks of every trade, as well as the innocent people they prayed upon.

In fact, Savel claimed that he once saw a dismembered corpse stuffed in luggage, and left out behind the Mecca La Carnau dance hall. But we unfortunately couldn't find any details to confirm this claim.

“It would be true, most likely I think it is true.”

Could be a lie or fucking confession. The thing is that there's so many lies and so many confessions. And what he says, it is impossible to tell.

Yeah, but regardless of whether or not this is a tall tale, Jimmy Savel was always proud

of his grimy beginnings. And if any of it is true, then it means that Savel experienced all this, and he chose to stick around, because the Mecca La Carnau looms large in Savel's history. That's the big thing you say in that that makes like a sense of that's the thing, right? Is that if it's true, he stands at and he's like, I'm fine with this.

I like this. Yeah. Yes. It's where he was born. Yeah.

Now, part of the reason why Savel was able to tolerate all the bad shit happening around the dance hall was because Jimmy had always been a sociopath. He openly said that he often, and this is something that he wrote in his book, he often wondered why people wet during the war. When one of their relatives were killed, he couldn't understand why people were sad when

other people died. He said that he was more quote inquiring than affected. For example, when Leeds was bombed by the Nazis in March of 1941, Jimmy and his mother were forced to very suddenly take shelter in a doorway. And when the raid ended, Savel walked out into the street to find a black leather glove

still containing the severed hand of a bombing victim. Now, that's a harrowing tale, but when Savel told it, he savored this memory. We might savor a cherished childhood recollection about a vacation that somewhere we might consider magical. For me, mine's a hike that my family took to a beautiful crater lake in Colorado when

I was like, five. Mine was what I found ten breasts instead of a bowling bag outside of Miramax, Colorado. I can't believe how many tits gave you that bowling bag. He could have been confused, you know, it is Leeds, you know, he could have found that hand in a glove any day.

Yeah. Seriously. Well, I mean, for Jimmy Savel, his magical childhood memory was a woman being blown to bits by Nazi bombs.

“You know, that's what put a glimmer and a twinkle and Jimmy Savel's eye.”

And he said, again, it's, this is what we're up against 24/7 now. It's this hole, but it was a joke. It was an exaggeration, but it telling you something very indicative about this person that he thinks that during the book, that this is a section from a movie from Come and See.

Yeah. That's a scene from a brutally depressing war film.

And he was like, I'll look hadn't enough.

Yeah.

“Like, that's, you have to remember that it's, he's a fucking psychopath.”

Yeah. Now, Jimmy Savel turned 18 in 1944 and received his papers to report for duty to King and country. Jimmy Savel, however, didn't fight in the war. Instead, the number on Savel's national service papers assigned him to work the coal mines

of the British Isles. See England couldn't import coal during World War II, so coal production from mines with an England itself had to be increased. So from 1943 until 1948, the wartime minister of labor and national service, Ernest

Bevan, conscripted some 50,000 young men to work England's coal mines.

There were no exceptions for men given this assignment. If you got assigned to the mines, you had to go down into the mines. And a citizen could be fined or imprisoned if they refused. These conscripted workers who spent 18 months in the mines on each stretch came to be known as the Bevan boys, named after Ernest Bevan.

Jimmy Savel, of course, was by far the most famous Bevan boy to ever go down the shaft. I just die in there. Like if you told me I had to legally go coal mine for 18 months. Yeah, I rest me. Just put me in jail.

What do I care? Fives will be.

“Honestly, I'd rather be in jail than a coal miner.”

Yeah, I guess I'm not made for that kind of work. Yeah, you know. I'm going to die in there. It's true. I'm going to get crushed.

I could take an app. I could read. I could work out. I could suck. I could have so much fun.

I could cook food for my guys. Yeah. And then when I cut the garlics. Yeah. And then when I'm going to go in this sausage, just a little bit, this is the raiser.

Yeah. I can have so much fun in prison. You make toilet wine. I'd love to make toilet wine anything but be a coal miner. Yeah.

And the experience of being a Bevan boy sounds fucking awful. Yeah. And every way, after four weeks of training, these conscripted brits would be sent down into the mines. That were sometimes miles deep and they'd be sent down in a cage that descended at anywhere

between 30 and 70 feet per second.

It felt so fast that some of the Bevan boys got nosebleeds when they went down.

“Man, be an aboy in England is the worst thing in the world.”

Yeah. Every couple of bugs were just like, all right, here's our boys in England. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Do you know what I mean? Are they covered in sweat? Yes. Yes. And how many sores, many, many. And you see their ribs all of them. How are their lungs? Oh, black, black, black. Very, very black. Jimmy Savils job under ground was a solitary one. He was two miles into the mine. He levered cold trucks back on the track when they derailed on a sharp corner. And most beven boys hated this job because it was spooky. He were in the dark by yourself. All day long. But Jimmy Savils loved the job. He claimed to be king of the corner for three years.

I'm just fucking scared me. You know, you did more hardcore labor work. Yeah. Do the guys in her are as it's scarier for the guys that are super into it or the guys that lazily do it. Like who the, who do you would rather be around? Oh, he's a lazy guys. Yeah, I guess that you loved the beloved roofen. I mean, nobody really, the only time that anyone loved that work was when the drywall guys would smoke a bunch of meth. And they loved their job for about two days. Yeah, and we're not asleep. But that drywall got put up. It really does. Whatever gets in the night. I've been bringing a meth to get it done. I've been like, oh, you guys won. Oh, meth.

I feel like Savils would say he liked this just because he knew that was weird. Oh, yeah. It's the whole thing is whole personality's deeply antagonistic, which is also partially why I'm so affected by the story. Well, I mean, that was my exact next point is that the other miners they all thought it was weird that Savils would like this job. This job that everybody else hated. But it was during Jimmy's time as a bevel boy that he realized that they were opportunities in being different. It was, as he put it again and again, the power of oddness.

People were always telling Jimmy Savils that he was a funny one and Savils got a charge out of making people uncomfortable. His favorite story from his bevel boys days was when he showed up at the mines and his Sunday best because he'd been out all night partying and he hadn't had time to go home and change. But Savils still went down to the cage anyway. And when he got to his corner, he stripped folded his nice clothes and newspaper and worked his entire shift naked. He saved enough water to clean off his face and hands, the end of his shift, then went back up in the cage as a maculately dressed as he went down.

And that's not a very good story. And in fact, all of Savils stories are quite bad. None of them are good. They're all awful. But Savils said that the other miners were weirded out by his antics and he immediately saw the being odd had an effect on people. It didn't necessarily disarm them. In fact, sometimes it put them more on their guard.

You know, he would have gotten the same effect by keeping his underwear up.

“Well, I think you want to know what we know about his underwear activities are I imagine he either was not wearing them or he does not really care about his underwear.”

He's not wearing underwear. He doesn't really wear underwear or didn't wear it. Well, then he will, well, I want to save it for later. Sure. Yeah, can't wait. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter]

Part two, our two savils underwear. [laughter] I'll be ready then. But as it went with almost everything and Jimmy Savils' life, his time as a beven boy is full of lies and half truths.

Tellingly, Jimmy was always KG when journalists were trying to establish a timeline about his stint in the mind.

He wouldn't allow them anything. Anything. When he asked to be specific about years, Savils would get defensive and menacing. He would say, "How do I fuck what I know?" 1642.

Yeah. But you know, it's something and it would be always be every time he just like, it was always how the fuck when I know. 1642. Like, and it's so the way he talked was like, he was shooting bullets at you. And it was scary to even fucking watch. He's scary.

Yeah. He's legitimately of all of the characters we've covered. Like, I'm not even joking. He frightens me. Yeah.

Well, also, if you're lying constantly, you probably can't keep him straight. You can't.

So it's a better way to just answer like that than just tell another fucking lie and have him blow up in your face.

You're from that event, eventually. He also understands being entirely otherworldly. Like, creating your own fake Anton Levay did this expertly as well. Where he created a fake version of his life on purpose. In order to fill out the iconography of like,

Poop of the Church of Satan, right? He created a whole fake life. He did all this kind of shit. Jimmy Savils understood that very same concept of like, I'm not a real person. And you understood it 20 years before Anton Levay even thought about it.

Like, I'm not a real person, can't you see? I'm a cartoon. Don't look at me. I'm just a cartoon. I'm a cutout. I'm a 2D cutout.

Like, you can't. You don't even want to talk with me. I'm just silly guy.

“Same as we shouldn't have a Pope, but you should have a nope.”

But we'll get into why you're wrong theologically. Pretty soon. Okay. Great news. Can't wait.

Can't wait. Yeah. You little fucking wall. Yeah, that's what you see logically. When you're a kid, like, want to like, man, I really want to be a comedian when I grow up.

I can't wait to be proved wrong. Theologically. See? [laughter] You.

Like, I'm your friend. Jimmy also claimed to have worked at three different coal mines in Yorkshire. But a former Bevin boy and Bevin boy advocate named Warwick Taylor, who hated Jimmy Savils. He said that Savils claim was preposterous, because very few, if any Bevin boys were worked multiple mines during their service.

Savils service, if he did indeed finish it, likely ended after the standard 18 months. But Savils greatly exaggerated his time and constantly changed how long he spent in the mines.

“And I think to your point Ed, I think he eventually did realize that giving an aggressive answer was better than lying.”

Because sometimes he would say that he worked in the mines for four years. Sometimes he would say that he worked there for seven. He'd also say he'd go back. Yeah, this is whole thing. You'd be right back in there if I could. And some like Bevin boy advocate Warwick Taylor, he speculated that Savils actually spent very little time in the mine.

What? Yeah, and that Savils probably used his dead cousin's name, which was very similar to Jimmy. Jimmy Savils really was like James Wilson Vincent Savils, and his cousin's name was James Wilson. And it's speculated that Jimmy Savils may have used his dead cousin's paperwork to get himself out of spending too much time underground.

That sounds like the Jimmy Savils. I know. Yeah. His worst crime. Both. Yeah.

Just lying. His worst crime. Paperwork fraud. Can't believe that somebody would do that. Lie in the mines.

I would never lie to the mines.

Well, Savils also claimed that he was gravely injured in the mines. But this claim is also suspect. Supposedly, Jimmy Savils was caught in a cave in when another worker detonated a charge without knowing Jimmy was there because Jimmy didn't have the light on and a safety hat. From the nurse, the leads and firmery supposedly told Savils that he was unlikely to ever walk again without sticks.

Crutches, but Jimmy Savils always called him sticks. And this injury is what released him from service. Other times actually he said that he was released from service because he had a really bad cold. But while there's no record of Jimmy's accident that doesn't necessarily mean it didn't happen. Yeah, because it was dangerous.

And accident happened in the wartime mines and Britain on average every six minutes. And a minor was killed every six hours.

Just get me out of here, don't want me to the mines. You say you get the travel? No, I got it.

I always wanted to go to France.

Oh, man. Many of the right. Africa. Many of the records of the Bevin boys were also unfortunately destroyed in a fire. But the very least, we do know that Jimmy Savils' timeline does not make any sense.

If Jimmy Savils was hurt when he said he was hurt, then it would have been impossible for him to appear at the age of 21 as an extra in the 1948 film. A boy, a girl, and a bike. In which Savils appears for a few seconds in the film's climax writing in a Yorkshire bike race. One thing I've learned from being on the show in the last couple of years is the thing that I see or notice is that these fucking predators, these evil people, they always like to paint themselves as a victim.

Yeah, always. Yeah, because also it's the true understanding of like villains across the world. They a lot of villains don't think they're a villain. They think that they're completely justified in what they do.

Jimmy Savils believed that everything was transactional.

And that that's all yet to do was fulfill the other half of the transaction sheet. And then he could do whatever he wants on the other side. It was more like a balance thing. That's what he said. His philosophy was that if he goes up to see St. Peter at the publicates and they look at the ledger, they'll see more back than that.

Because his charitable work, he said, outweighed any of the things that he may have done in his life. And it wasn't like because Epstein used money to sort of ingratiate himself into certain scenes. But he was doing that literally to make his dick work again. And to make all do all the weird like make himself live forever. In the genetic stuff.

Yeah, I like hiding in plain sight. Harvey Weinstein loved being a big donor to the Clint.

“Well, Harvey Weinstein, I believe he did that.”

Again, that was also on purpose. Yeah, of course. He was aligning himself with the Democratic party being like, I can't right. I don't do that. I'm doing it, Democrats, all right.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying, ladies. [laughter] The Jimmy Sister Joan did confirm that her brother was indeed an abdire accident in the minds. But Savile used this accident as another way to make himself miraculous.

He said he dedicated himself and that point forward to becoming physically fit. And he became well known for constantly writing his bicycle around leads. This is also around the time that Jimmy Savile developed an all-consuming obsession with money. And he was constantly on the lookout for the best ways to exploit people while distracting them with his increasingly odd mannerisms. Now, Jimmy's main black market business was selling scrap metal.

This, as we all know, is just about the lowest wrong on the criminal ladder. A lot of shit can be stolen and sold for scrap. I'm sure you guys have sold stolen stuff and sold to scrap metal, like, all right?

No, I've never done scrap metaling, no.

No, that was not how you had a different growing up. Yeah. Yeah.

“I think I got a big scar from a piece of scrap metal.”

I sold drugs. Yeah. I spent the metal on one straight to the drug. Yeah, because you're drugged out of the next step. They only actually, the only got experience I had with scrap metal was one time.

I was in New Orleans shooting a movie alone. I was in there for Marty Grove, right? I, I, I was shooting a loan. Who filmed? I was a fucking jerk off instructional. I went to, but I met these guys right.

They spigged suck me into their bachelor party. It goes hanging out with these guys all night. And they were all in scrap metal business. And they were all being in like, you have no idea how much money is out there. That's all you got to do.

Scrap. That's all for guys, lack of stuff. It's like, that's all they were talking about. Scrap was what poured out. They were like, show me their houses and their cars.

“And they're like, that's what scrap metal looks like.”

And I remember just being like hammered with these guys. Like, I should join the scrap metal industry. Yeah. You're going to keep those cams? Yeah.

Yeah, that's how you get a girl. I'm right there. But at the same time, Jimmy was doing scrap metal. He was also helping out his father vents with Vince's phrase into the black market. Like gambling or selling bootlegs.

Cigarettes. Sable would fur over the years to having a few quote-unquote business partners during this period of time who helped him earn the modern equivalent of 2,500 bucks a week on the black market. But Sable was on the lookout for a career outside of scrap metal and gambling. So he asked himself, what do I like?

And after spending so much time at the Mecca Locarno dance hall, the answer, Jimmy came up with was he liked girls, music, and dancing. So Sable got himself into the entertainment business by hosting dances as a DJ starting in the late 1940s.

It's fascinating. Yeah. Well, every other dance had live bands.

“Sable got the idea of just playing records through a Jerry rig sound system starting somewhere”

in the mid to late 1940s and people immediately went mad for it. You know, people say I turn our invented rock and roll. Yeah. What are you going to do? Yeah.

Bad guys are unfortunately. I feel like one of the worst parts of this whole world is that some of the these bad guys are literally the most talented people you've ever met in your old film. And they're all like that. It's the issue. It's like you meet all of these extremely talented evil fox that made all of our favorite stuff.

And we can't do anything because the problem is is that then we replace them with good people and they're making garbage.

Yeah. And that's the worst part is that we're placing people, we're placing the old bad guys with new people that are good and nice. But there's no win here. Yeah. Kevin's face is a phenomenal bad guy.

He was an amazing man. I don't know what he's talking about. Champen's not a good guy. He tried. He's amazing in one battle.

I don't know. I mean, we're getting some gray area guys again. I mean, sure. The reach your guy beating that guy up. Oh, I don't know.

He's excited. I know. He was very justified. But no, no. No, no.

No, I agree.

“The Allen is fully justified beating his shit out of that guy.”

But a little bit of a gray area there.

Yeah. It's nice to have a guy out there. He's a rough and tumble kind of guy. I like him too. I like him too.

I'll watch the show. It's good. Now I'll watch the show. Yeah, the show's fun. Reach is really fun.

Yeah, now I'm like. He really kicks people, spunk and asses. Yeah. Watch the spunk and show. That's literally the best marketing.

I couldn't care less about that show. No, no, I'm obsessed. Yeah, because not he is richer. Yeah. But his wife must be happy.

Well, he's very also very open about his mental health. It's very nice. I like him. Man. Yeah.

I fucking hate mental health. I love that. I'm super open. I fucking hate mental health. I like fucking like grape and murder.

Yeah, but also I act on the side. Yeah. Well, as irritating as it is to admit it here, SAVAL was as brilliant as he was evil. He figured out two turntables in a microphone in a live setting before even rock and roll came on to the scene.

When SAVAL started out, he was playing fucking fucks trots on 78s. These were records that people were bringing to the events themselves. Like he was the guy who fucking figured it out. But for SAVAL, DJing opened up yet another dark impulse. He immediately saw the power and the effect that music had on people.

And this is another reason why he is fucking evil. He took something that is meant for joy and he turned it into something horrible. And he's not even a fucking musician. No. You know what I mean?

He became a middle man and used it. Yeah. He said that he could make people dance quick. He could make them dance slow or he could make them stop. He said he became transfixed on this new found ability to get people to do as he

pleased. That is a direct fucking quote. And it certainly didn't hurt that he was immediately making good money doing it. So SAVAL got hired to play music, dances and parties for two and a half pounds of session. And he was so successful that he was soon hired as an assistant manager at the Mecca

Lecarno dance hall in Leeds. The same place where he said he met with murderers and horrors and rapists and thieves where he found a dead body. Now he's taken a fucking assistant manager out. Now I work in.

I will just a quick British question. Sure. Lecarno.

“Is that like the name of the place or is that like the kind of establishment of this?”

Okay. Mecca is the name of the company that was Mecca limited that ran a bunch of dance halls. Not all of them were called like Mecca Lecarno, like the Lecarno is the name of the dance hall. Mecca.

But not all Mecca dance halls were called like the Mecca this, the Mecca that someone was like the Plaza Ballroom and Manchester was also a Mecca ballroom. But Mecca is just a corporation that owns a bunch of clubs. I've also found that the UK has some of the weirdest, most idiosyncratic way of naming like venues and places.

Yeah. Like they're very, I mean I get just for us.

It's like for for as Americans it's very, it's always like, you know, the whistle and

and whistle and and and and muggers and tuggers. That was like all just like that. As far as Jimmy Savile got in a broadcasting, that path ran through of all things competitive British cycling, which was massive in the 50s and 60s. As I said before, Jimmy Savile loved cycling, but he figured out soon into his competitive

So Jimmy Savile's trademark accessory throughout his life was his big stupid disgusting cigar.

“And this is a habit that Jimmy said that he was introduced to by his father when Jimmy was”

just seven years old and said, same tired hack to do the my father thought he and he thought I would throw up and I ended up loving it and smoking cigars as I was seven. Oh yeah, it's like people who brag about getting hammered a 12. Yeah. Yeah.

Jimmy would therefore be seen cycling and races hundreds of miles long while jumping on said cigars wearing his best suits and preening for the crowds. Savile was such a character that he earned a nickname, the Duke, which seems to be where you got his nickname for his mother, the Duchess. That tells you that's a you want to do a little bit more detective work.

You're a bit like him. Are you trying to, but that fucking, yeah, you best believe you are super cool. Yeah, eventually Jimmy Savile became a favorite of the daily express journalists who covered these races. And when Savile got chatting with him one day after he dropped out of a race, they loved

his banter so much that they offered him a job as a live race commentator, the color guy. As it turned out, Savile was a natural broadcaster in his clipped gruff Yorkshire accent stood out against the posh voices normally heard on British broadcast. Savile soon earned his first connections to the BBC through this gig.

The BBC of course was and still is the ultimate seat of media power in Great Britain. You get into the BBC, you can do anything you want. So if I'm listening to the BBC sessions of the Pretty Things, is that Jimmy Savile's voice like announcing the song? No, you're not on top of the box.

Yeah, he was a DJ on radio Luxembourg and mostly on BBC, he was a presenter, like a TV presenter. Okay. But no, you would recognize it because his voice is so incredibly original, nobody in the world sounds like Jimmy Savile, he's actually very hard voice to replicate.

Oh, that's the reason why I'm not even trying because the Yorkshire accent is one of those

things I've never been able to properly master and also I didn't really want to make him

funny. Yeah, I lived with a woman from Yorkshire for two years and I still don't know how to do with Yorkshire. Yorkshire. Yorkshire.

Yorkshire. Yorkshire. That's cool. That's pretty close. But before Jimmy Savile was to make his jump to the BBC, he's been about a decade working

the dance halls of England where he very quickly discovered that he could build a life that was tailored to feed his own worst impulses. After two years of being assistant manager at the Mecca in Leeds, Savile was promoted to a location in London's East End in 1953.

And it's here that we get the first accounts of Jimmy Savile's sexual crimes.

I think the key here is also too.

“Remember, that's kind of where we're going to say it's like they've been talking about”

this since the fucking beginning of this career. Yeah. Like this shit is not like it didn't go under reported. It was reported. Yeah.

And this is also just the first that we know of, this is just the first reporting of it. Half a century. Yeah. More. See, by the time Jimmy Savile started working in dance halls, he was already in his early

30s.

And even though the age of consent in the UK was 16, Savile always preferred them even

younger. A bouncer named Dennis Liman said that Savile would make a point of talking to all the girls on the younger end, the ones who were 13, 14, 15. himself said in a 1978 collection of interviews, grossly collected as a book called God will fix it or God will fix it.

God will fix it. He said that he was in the business, quote, fraught with temptations. He said he was an abuser of things, bodies, and people, but maintain that those days were behind him. And this was actually when a Jimmy's greatest tricks.

He did mit to something bad while showing contrition to deflect any questions people might have had about the full scope of his crimes or maybe something that he did, I don't know, last week.

“Because what does that mean to be an abuser of things, bodies, and people?”

Do you know what I mean? That's a, that's a horrendous thing to say. It's a horrible thing to say. Yeah.

Like it was a thing that you, that everybody would understand.

“He's also, he's saying it like a well-known fact.”

He's saying these things being like, we're all like this. You know how goes. How it is with how it is when you're younger? People love fucking redemption stories, too. Yeah.

They do. And the thing was, people knew about Jimmy's apple, even back then. One of the other bouncer's remembered a day in the 1950s mine, too. When Jimmy showed up to the dance hall worried, because he was due in court the next day for interfering with young girls.

This is a court. It's not just rumors. It is a court case. But apparently everything was cleared up because it was business as usual for survival less than a week later, reportedly Jimmy's apple paid off the police to make the

charges go away. And the bouncer said that it wasn't the first time that Savile had done this. Well, yeah, they're hanging out the drinkin' for free. Yeah. Jimmy's apple actually found a way to turn the situation into a running joke.

“He said it dozens upon dozens of times throughout the years.”

There's actually a couple of, there's a super cut on the Netflix documentary of him saying this.

Anytime someone brought up his proclivities for young girls, he'd always say, my case comes

up next Thursday. Always. And would always get a big laugh from whatever audience was lapping up his bullshit. Now after proving himself to the mecca brass and London, Savile moved to the great city of Manchester.

Oh, big old man. A lot of Manchester to manage a mecca dance hall called the Plaza Ballroom. Jimmy's father had died a few years before. And since Jimmy had filled the emotional void left by his father, he'd become far, far closer to his mother.

He wanted to come back and join her and he wanted to return to the comfort of Northern England. How close was he? He lost four inches inside of him. Please, three and a half.

Now in Manchester, Jimmy Savile continued to refine his flamboyant look, his clown suit as it were. He would wear C through shirts with fake 20 pound notes in the breast pocket.

He would always do his level best to be the most outrageous looking person in any room.

Marvel also started opening the dance hall at lunchtime during the week, which made the Plaza Ballroom a magnet for teenagers who were going nuts for the new American sounds. This is Elvis, Buddy Holly, Bobby Dern, Jimmy Savile's one who has those records and the Plaza Ballroom is where kids can go to hear those records. You know what that immediately reminds me of?

Dean Corals, candy store, sure. But besides the up tempos stuff, Savile began playing with these teenagers by announcing "Smooch Time" at regular intervals. He'd get on the mic and tell the kids that it was time for belly dancing, which meant that they had to put their belly against someone else's or a slow dance.

And this was coming from a 34-year-old man. I do this with the staff, but that's just because we're going to get in with each other and think I'm part of a corporate company, and we're trying to get your cool wood. It's a fun manual that we're working off of. That's corporate.

When I was working in "Smooch Time" it's getting long. I will say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to add the amendment leave room for Christ. You're right. On the back half of you.

Right? So, Gabe? Yeah. Christ. Where is the Holy Ghost going to go?

My fucking cock and bones! Yeah! I haven't thought of the day at all. Then I'll call him the Holy Ghost for nothing, because he likes the whole. Yes indeed.

That was the least Holy Ghost of all, because I started in the film "Ghost Father." But at the end of the day, even though the plausible room is getting complaints from schools, the kids were missing class to go to the lunchtime dances, Jimmy Savo was making a lot of fucking money, and he continued developing a name for himself as an entertainer who knew what the kids wanted.

Because that's the thing. Jimmy Savo is not really... He's not a comedian. He is an entertainer. Yeah, broadcaster.

Not presenter, as they call it, in the UK.

“And it's not a secret that Manchester can be a violent place.”

And Jimmy Savo was no stranger to violence at the plaza. I mean, God, every time I go fucking Manchester, I see someone get beat half to death on the streets, having three times now. Here's a beautiful city. I love it.

I fucking love it. I adore Manchester, but Jesus Christ. But Jimmy Savo was no stranger to violence at the plaza. He claimed to tie up and gag trouble makers in the basement of his club. He'd keep them there until the end of the night.

And then, at the end of the night, the bouncer's would haul the trouble makers out and beat them half to death in the street. Savo claimed that his main crew and Manchester was a trio of what he called Hungarian heavies. These were men who had worked in the concentration camps in Europe, disposing of bodies for the Nazis during the Holocaust, or so Savo said.

Savo proudly used the same name for these guys that the Nazis did. He called these men his son their commandos. And they were supposedly used any time Savo needed to get his hands dirty with straight-up violence. Savo also around this time made friends with the local wrestler named Bill Bending, known

man-mountain, man-mountain, man-mountain, man-mountain, man-mountain, man-mountain, man-mountain, he is certainly a man-mountain. Man-mountain had invested in a few dance halls around Manchester, so he and Savo grew close.

Allegedly, man-mountain was also involved in organized crime, and he always made sure

that Jimmy Savo was protected. So at this point, it's the 50s, he's in his 30s, he's still just started, he's still kind of just starting out, but he already has control over both lovers of the law. He is the cops on the side and organized crime on the side. And he knows to keep it small.

Yeah. Yeah.

“Keep the operation small, because that's how you make sure not a lot of crying eyes”

are in there. And he kept bragging about this kind of thing. Even later in the years, he would say, like, he'd send us Italian guys over to you and stuff like that. And I did not believe it until the book, until I saw that thing, when they'd author, when

to go meet Jimmy Savo, and the first thing Jimmy Savo, like he goes into Jimmy Savo's flat and he hears Jimmy Savo go, "Friskin boys!" And these two large men walk in, show him police badges, push him against the wall, friscim,

go through all of his shit, and then afterwards they'll have a big fucking laugh, they're

like, "Ah-ha-ha." And they were two police officers. Well, it was a police officer and a man by Jim the Bill, and I don't like Jim the Bill. I don't know what he does.

No. Now, I didn't take long before Jimmy Savo figured out that the Plaza Ballroom could essentially work as a constant pipeline for victims of sexual abuse. According to a former employee, there were lines of teenage girls waiting to "chat" with Jim in his office at the back of the Plaza.

As to why this former employee didn't do or say anything, they begged off, like, so many others tangentially involved with Jimmy Savo throughout his career. This former employee said they didn't know what went on behind the doors of Jimmy's office, but they didn't know that Jimmy Savo was a man.

“You know, Wayne Quink, no, I mean, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean?”

You know what I mean? Do you know what he was doing back there? Do you ready? What? Doesn't he's a man?

Yeah, what do you think about that? But I don't know what he was doing back there, but I know what he was doing back there. Yeah, of course. No, it's the kind of bullshit you hear all the time work out of the fucking registrar. He asked you as a detective.

What? What this means? What the statement meant? Oh, it means that him and the girls were playing checkers. Alright.

What an innocent boy. The rumors about Jimmy's crimes were so prevalent that the police would stop by the Plaza on occasion with questions about why there were so many young girls there at all times.

But Jimmy always had a way to deflect.

His go-to was to ask the cops if they had daughters who came to the Plaza, which is a big fucking move. Yeah. But if the cops said, yes, Savo would ask the cops, hey, would you rather your daughters

“were here safe with me or being out there prayed on all the scumbags of Manchester?”

The cops would look at him and they'd see how odd he was. You know, strange he was and they'd say, I guess you will go away. I also think that there's just a straight up guy on the level. They've seemed to meet and they're like, okay, I kind of see where you're coming from in that way.

You're saying that, oh, we'll put it, you know, you're going to be in charge of all the the kids and shit and I think, Los, mostly they just didn't want to involved. Yep. Every guy I knew that ranch rugs up and down Florida back in the day had a little police benevolent sticker on their car.

Oh, of course. You know, to make, you know, you'd say, hey, Betty, don't end it so much money to them. Dude, it's the new thin blue line sticker on your fucking car. But guess what? It doesn't help.

No. They don't do cops. Actually don't care. Now, Jimmy continued abusing young girls on mass, even after the police had to question him after it was reported that Saval had been hanging around the public toilets.

This was also waived off and again, and again, the cops did nothing. In 1956, Jimmy Saval returned to leads and there, he entered his final odd ball form. He began dressing in her red, white and blue track suit with a big hat, paint glasses, and gold shoes, and he began bleaching his straight shoulder-length hair blonde, fashioning the cut into an almost helmet-like shape.

He looked objectively creepy even if you managed to remove all the things we know about him today. But the people of England loved Jimmy's act, and his star only grew in the British music scene. He was becoming a true original.

Yes. I think that's reason. That was what people were responding to. And this is also a time when everything is changing. You know, there's the late '50s, early '60s.

Everything is changing. They're coming out of the world, more like everything is kind of weird. The beatle, everything is kind of off. Everything is constantly things are different this week, and they were last week. When you listen, it's insane to sometimes like read the way these people talk about.

They talk about the difference between 1959 and 1962 is if they're 40 years apart.

Skiffle is a massive in England never made it to America, but without Skiffle, you don't have

the Beatles. You don't have the wrong stones. Yeah.

“And Jimmy Savel was on top of every trend as it came on.”

He was on top of Skiffle. He was on top of rock and roll. All of this stuff, Jimmy Savel knew exactly how to package it and how to deliver it to teenagers. By 1959, Savel was invited onto the BBC for the first time as a judge on a show called "Jupbox Jerry," in which four panelists would judge new music as a hit or a miss.

Savel was well received as a personality. So the next year, he was offered a test spot through Deca Records. One of the biggest record labels in England, you know, was the Stone's label offered a test spot as a DJ on Radio Luxembourg. Just use to be easier to get jobs at entertainment.

Yeah. Now, this is a big get for Jimmy Savel, because Radio Luxembourg was the only station that continuously played the pop music beloved by British teenagers at the time. This was 1960. So we're talking Elvis, Chubby Checker, Beverly Brothers, Lank Ray, Joane Eddie, all the

cool shit that the kid's lot. All right. Don't get lost, no dogs. Yeah. I don't have to pull that back.

So much. Oh, yeah. Good.

“No idea how hard I had to pull back on the section.”

So after Jimmy Savel was given a permanent spot as a DJ on Radio Luxembourg, he was prime to be the voice that brought bands like the Rolling Stones and the Beatles to the ears of young people across the United Kingdom when those bands started releasing hits a couple years later. And really think about the power of that.

That is incredible power.

You were the man who is introducing England to the Beatles, the man who is introducing England to the Rolling Stones. It also meant that Savel was primed to exploit the so-called groupy scene that would coalesce around Britain's pop stars. And of course, their sexual transgressions throughout the 1960s are many varied and well-documented.

But at least they made the music that brought the sex to the bed. Like this is these guys just fucking Jimmy Savel just fucking is there. Yeah. Well, I mean, to be fair to the pop stars, a lot of them were in their late teens early 20s. And like I said, the age of consent and Britain, whether it was right or wrong,

was indeed 16 years of age at this period in time. And as I've said, on no dogs in space, many, many, many, many times you would be hard press to find a single male pop star in the 60s and 70s who didn't have sex with teenage girls. Especially the British.

Yeah. I mean, if they weren't, they were having sex guys, they were having sex with the guys or they were married. Yeah. Very rarely.

Yeah, he's innocent. Maybe. Yeah. And maybe. I doubt it.

I'm talking to the 60s and 70s. Padblins were 50s. You're right. But Jimmy Savel was not in his late teens nor his early 20s. When the British invasion bands started getting famous, early as we call them the

British invasion bands, they're just British. Jimmy Savel.

Jimmy Savel was 36 years old when the first Beatles single hit the charts.

And his taste were decidedly for girls below the age of consent. This is where you really hit me for the first time that when we were talking about this and it hit me, I was like, oh, he was too old even being the scene. Yeah. He was even being the room.

He was already too old and he was noticeably too old. And because I'm sorry, guys, I know now I'm almost 42 years old. I didn't see the difference before. You know, or I didn't see how to think now, it's hard for me to determine ages and stuff. Back in the day, when you're 20 and a 35 year old in the room, it's like you feel it.

Like you feel like there's an authority in the room, even though you have no idea what's going on. And that's also part of why he was so clownish and why he dressed it the way that he did. Well, no, it was so he could fit in. So he could he was the clown in the room.

You know, if he dressed like an adult, if he dressed like these people's parents or their uncles or whoever, then he would be suspect, but dressed as some wacky guy. He's got to be counterculture. He's got to be cool. Yeah.

“That's why whenever I go to these like younger shows, I always pretend like I own the”

joint. Yeah. Yeah. I think the bartender wants to want to go two, two. Do you understand that I feel like I get treated that way no matter what?

Like a feeling when I go into a place where everyone's 20 years younger than me. It's like people are like, are you my dad? No. It's important to note that while there was a natural taboo involving sex with prepubescent girls and boys during this time, public attitudes in Britain were remarkably tolerant

of the occasional or rumored liaison with the girl who was post-pubescent, but below the age of consent. Help. We see it here today in America, what was it a month ago when Megan Kelly was defending Jeffrey Epstein, she was like, it's not like he was an eight-year-old, they were like

Can we all just relax here for a second? It's the same shit. There were, however, some people who thought that it was wrong for a man in his 30s to have sex with a 14-year-old girl. And Jimmy Savo wasn't yet investigated for sexual abuse allegations involving underage

girls in the early 1960s. Several journalists at a weekly newspaper called Sunday, people came out on Sundays. They spent years. Sunday, people, are you here on a Monday? It's Sunday, people.

Well, they spent years investigating Jimmy Savo.

But for reasons that are still unknown for sure, those findings were never released.

Most likely, the reason why the story was buried was because Jimmy Savo had been hired by that very same paper to write a column, to attract a younger readership at the same time that he was being investigated. He was hired because the editors, teenage daughter, listened to Jimmy Savo on Radio Luxembourg. And talking about back in the day and what this shit was like, they, the way my aunt

talks about child molestation and stuff like that from when they were kids. It was just that people who would warn the children, but they didn't want to deal with it. Yeah. They would still assume away from that guy, but they would never actually fucking do anything

about it. Well, because in their heart of hearts, and I feel like this is one of the big issues we're seeing with the boomer generation, like I said, this next thing is that they kind of felt they got molested. Yeah.

So they really go out of their way to stop it from happening to you, like why go so far out of our way when you're fine, you know, my mom was molested by every single priest

“that she was ever involved with in the way, and she's fine, you know, like that's what”

he thinks in her head. She had to do all this kind of stuff. So in her mind, it's just, it was a part of life. Yeah. It was one of those things I learned recently when talking to one of my friends with

kids. They were asking me like, what comics should they introduce their kid to? You know, and I was like, oh, no, I mean, when I was your kid's age, I was listening to the fucking dice and George Carlin, you know, that stuff, and then I'm like, I'm fine. And then for two seconds, I thought, oh, maybe I shouldn't have.

I think Carlin's good for any age. Oh, you're calling me that dice. Yeah. No, I mean, you don't get to introduce them to great, like stand up guys, you know, like Bill Cosby, crystaly, like there's some great comedians out there that are really good

for kids to listen to. Well, I think it's also, it's not just the, you know, the super cynical like you don't, I had to deal with it. So now you have to deal with it. I'm going to say an outwardly, I'm saying it's subconsciously.

I think it's also subconsciously. It's like, if I deal with what, if I deal with you, I'm going to have to deal with what I went through. Sure. I'm going to have to process it.

I'm going to have to face it and actually think about it for a second, instead of just

shove it down and let it come out as a freak out of the grocery store. I think that, you know, this isn't fucking hears another email statement, but I don't think people really gave a shit about sticking up for kids until like a couple of years ago. Dude, you're not even, they still haven't. Look at the Epstein files.

No one gives a fuck. So it's this, it's the, I don't know if the people that could charge anybody give a fuck. It's been like this. You talk about this in spawn a lot. He did.

True. It is true. They did not give a fuck about what happened to kids because they genuinely believed in many ways they'll get over it or like, how do you believe you can't believe a kid? He's a kid.

You can't believe the fucking kid. Fuck that kid. Yeah. The check Catholic Church got away with it for so long.

“That's why we never fucking put any regulations on guns after all these school”

shootings. People just fucking rather than do it with it. Yes. School shootings. I really think that's just about training our kids to go to war.

That's a long story. From accounts, Jimmy Savill had already set up his life to feed his monstrous sexual urges by the time he started getting big on radio Luxembourg. The most graphic account comes from a man named Tony Calder, who was just 18 in 1961, but Calder would eventually become one of the most successful promoters in the UK in the

1960s.

Calder was actually the guy who got the first Beatles single, Love Me Do, played in dance

halls across England. By 1963, Calder would be a business partner to Andrew Lug Holdham, who was, of course, the manager of the Rolling Stones for much of that decade. In other words, this guy was legit. He was a legend in the industry.

So according to Calder, Jimmy Savill offered to get him laid when Calder was 18 and just starting in the music business.

“He had, I think, just gotten a job with DACA.”

Savill took Calder to an apartment funded by the Macadantal and apartment in leads. They called it the Shag Pad. Had three or four bedrooms where people would quote, "Shag all night long." He called her baby, right that, like, "Yeah, baby, you honey, baby, shag." Savill, however, got it.

But, like, if you, I could say, "I use super-consensual."

“I remember in the parties, he was like, "No, darling, I can't.”

You're too strong." Influenced comes from Savill. The way he acts, it presents himself, also, like, Bill Nye and Love actually, like, "I see it, you know, Richard Dawson kissed people specifically on camera." Yeah.

You remember? Yeah, but he was also a piece of shit in her life. Yes, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Savill, however, you would exclusively go for teenage girls at this Shag Pad and

he had a rule, the younger the better.

Calder, however, maintains that Savill told him to never have sex with anyone under the age

of 16, but this is likely Calder covering his own ass. Now, I mean, Jimmy also might have said this, but either way, Jimmy was not following his own rules. According to Calder, the young girls who hung out at the Shag Pad did anything Jimmy Savill said, and they would act as his little slaves, as Calder put it.

Calder said that Jimmy would have sex with the girl, then passed her off to one of his younger DJ accolites, chatting them up only for as long as it took for them to have sex with them or blowing. Calder's other rule was never make love to anyone if it causes them distress, which makes it sound like Savill had somewhat of a heart, you know, everyone's consending.

So what's the harm? She's not in distress. So what real harm am I doing here?

“But I think that there is a far more sinister reason for this rule.”

I think what Jimmy Savill really meant was don't have sex with the young girl if you can't manipulate her into thinking it was her idea.

Never take advantage of someone who's going to be upset enough to make a stink about

it. In other words, only do what you can get away with because the Savill was proving every single day you could get away with a lot. And in his mind too, when he says never make love to anybody causes them distress. Jimmy Savill has never been wrong to himself.

So in a way, I think in his own, Jimmy Savill arithmetic, if I'm having sex with you, you can't possibly be in distress because I have made the decision that you are ready for it. Yes. Now as you can see from that story, Jimmy Savill's partners in crime and the entertainment

business were not usually musicians. That's of course aside from Gary Glitter, who we'll talk about later. Oh, he shows up. Yeah. Yeah.

Instead, Savill's closest associates were music industry executives and promoters because as far as Savill's game was concerned, musicians were far more valuable as props. And most musicians were also nowhere near as clever as the executives who manipulated them. Just listen to Jimmy Hendrick's talk once.

Yeah. And you understand that he just needed to have a guitar. Yeah. Yeah. And he could communicate with that guitar.

Beautiful. Yeah. I really wish, Jan, a shoplom was a better interview, but she's just not us at the time. That's not what she was. The musicians are not, unfortunately, I know a lot of you listen, many of them are just

not that clever. They have, they're, you know, they say you can't judge a fish by how well they claim a treat. Yeah. Yeah.

That's not their job. But the thing is that Jimmy Savill, if he was going to bring someone into this world, they needed to be almost or just as clever as he was.

And as far as how he used musicians as props, Jimmy Savill finally broke through into full

celebrity status in the UK in 1961 by borrowing the fame of Elvis Presley. In January of that year, Savill convinced Deca Records to let him deliver a gold record to Elvis in Los Angeles, where Elvis was filming his new movie, while in the country. Once Savill arrived here in Los Angeles, he talked his way in the meeting Elvis, and he got a photo of himself with the world's most famous singer.

No, I'm totally both. I'm looking at you right now.

“I thought you're kind of a weirdo, but honestly, I think we can get along.”

Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Let me tell you about this. Yeah, you're a gold man, but you're a gold man, but you're a gold man, but you're

a gold man, but you're a gold man, but you're a gold man, but you're a gold man, but you're a gold man, but you're a gold man, but you're a gold man, but you're a gold man. After getting this photo, Jimmy blew it up and he put it on billboards all over England. He wanted to show everyone that he was the first radio DJ to be photographed with Elvis. This photo went the 60s version of viral, and everyone was talking about the photo of

Jimmy's to Apple with Elvis and Jimmy's to Apple became famous from that point until the moment of his death 50 years later. It's like he's the first influencer dude. I am not even. It is very similar.

He really understands PR in a way that it is not feel like he understands just sort of like create this version of himself outside of himself so that that's all people get. And so by the time you're meeting you, you're meeting the legend Jimmy Savel, you're meeting the outside person, Jimmy Savel, and I do believe that's kind of one of the responsibilities of having that level of innate charm and charisma is that you have to stop.

You actually have to stop them falling for you. But legitimately, it is the responsibility of the super powerful pop figure to not manipulate everybody that is extremely vulnerable in their presence. Very much so. Yeah.

And I think Jimmy Savel, what he understood better than anything with social systems.

And that's also I think why he never really left the UK wasn't just because I think

of that. It wasn't just because people didn't know who he was outside of the UK. We couldn't get away with it if they didn't. He just knew how everything worked in the UK. He knew British people and new British institutions and he knew how to manipulate every

single one of them. So he was way ahead of it.

“The only thing Jimmy Savel ever did was when he started wearing those oakly glasses”

and shit. I know it was later on. That's episode three, but it's kind of cool. Technically it was a cool. Hey man, you're taking back the scumbag look from scumbag.

Yeah, why the scumbags get all the fucking cool. That is right. And you know, I legitimately am choosing to look this way because of that because I feel

like it'd be fun to look crazy, like a crazy person as I'm getting older.

It does have a fun disarming effect and also just trying to do something. It doesn't involve me. I don't know what other fucking horrific midlife crisis I could have. I do it also because it is a thing. You wear a big, loud thing.

It's like I'm not as scary as a person to you. You know. It's like as a big man, it's like I do it to disarm people. Even just as a man, I'm trying not to BS frightening to people all the time. Yeah.

It's not a car hard, but women run for me in it. Sometimes. If you do look like the murderer for my know what you did last up to. You just walk in the same way. But you do look like a director is looking to turn or do a fucking piece of furniture.

And so now that Jimmy Savo was famous, he was invited to participate in charity work. And Savo soon discovered that he could get away with even more dastardly deeds by volunteering and he started all of this at Leeds General and Firmary and it gave him an incredible amount of credibility. This began a decades-long association with hospitals across Britain and Jimmy began building

an inner circle of establishment figures that also included several high-ranking police officers who would all protect Jimmy whenever he needed it. He knew many people in Scotland yard. What did they go after these motherfuckers? Oh, because you know what, that's a good question.

They don't have that many jails that he had in this kind of the problem is that once

“you start arresting all of the people, when do you stop?”

Yeah. No, that's that's it. Yeah. What? We tell you about a little something called denonzification.

And Jimmy Savo also discovered it was a lot easier to have sex with young teenagers if he had his own caravan. Or as we call them in America, his own RV. Okay, caravan is a romantic word for an RV. Yeah.

The England went through a bit of a caravan craze in the sixties. And by the end of the decade, there were well over 60,000 caravans on the road. So it wasn't all that weird when Jimmy Savo began living much of his life in his caravan. And he was suddenly afforded a private mobile location for his illicit activities wherever he went in England and a place that he had complete in total control over.

Travel star continued to rise so much in the early sixties that he even started releasing his own god awful music. Like his cover of the race, Steven's novelty hit A, have the A-Rab. Or this massive piece of shit, the Bossa Nova. And yeah, I definitely, yeah, we're going to play this because yeah, if you play this.

Yeah, if anyone want, if Deca wants to claim this, come on. Come on, let's do the Bossa Nova. You kind of swear. Do you have a play all of that? No.

No. No. No. Too high and try it. Don't know.

What, any best? It's a mess or not. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, it's just that.

Yeah. That's a typo. You know what it is funny? Because it's another thing, my main problem is that anything that is filled with what I feel as fake joy, I ascribe immediately as menacing.

Yeah. Like that's my problem is that I am not into, like I know you guys are hard on me about

“like talking about Ted Lasso and those other shows, right?”

But there's like a thing about like, you're lying to me, but you're all lying to whatever you want about Ted Lasso. You know, it's like, I look at you and I know you're all multimillionaire actors, you're all fucking liars. There's whole thing.

Some fucking, I know whatever. Yeah, Henry, they're actors. I know. I know. But that's just like I'm like, I'm not inspired by you.

I don't care.

Do you think David Despoxian actually hosted a talk show? I wish that he did. He did. He does. He does.

Okay. But you think he's actually poke, poke it up, man. I'm just saying. I don't, it's just, I mean, I don't like fake happiness and that this is one of

“those things where he's all of that, like it's just this constant, I think he's just”

fake. Also, it just sucks. It just, yeah. On an artistic level, these palesides park is fucking catchy. Sure.

There's also something about the novelty song artists, they're like, weird ally, yeah, we all agree that weird ally is like, you know, the best man in music is the only one that

has never done anything bad.

But the novelty song world is filled with pieces of shit. Race Stevens is a fucking psychopath. You know what I mean? The dude that, like the timey down Kangaroo, the Australian novelty song, that guy is like Australia's Jimmy Savvall.

That's amazing. Yeah. It's because you know what it is, is there's something about like, you game the system. If you somehow have a hit novelty song, it's like, you've calmed everybody for a very small period of time almost.

Yeah. You know who's at fine though, even if he does have weird libertarian views. He was all about, he just didn't like the avali tax. Yeah. He's just stupid.

That's fine. He was a nerd. He was a fucking nerd and then he was coming like, actually we have to think about different tax reigns. That's the kind of libertarian he was.

Martin's fine. King Tut. Yeah. Yeah. He was fine.

Yeah.

I'm not he's not a super friendly man.

No. Treatment president. Yeah. Yeah. Not I mean, but the novelty song world is filled with horrible men.

I know. And so it is overwhelmingly male. Yeah. Like name one single female novelty song artist. Mickey.

Mickey. Mickey and Tony. What's your name? That's a song. You don't think Mickey's a novelty song.

Absolutely not. Just like a heart. Yeah. I think they really. Oh, Mickey, you saw fine.

You saw fine your bum on my hand Mickey.

“I think they thought they're making a really genuine great song.”

Well, I think it was a genuine great song. I'm talking novelty song. Like I'm talking like A had the A rap, like or something like or, you know, guitars and. Yeah.

Pussies all filled with dirt. Yeah. When some Maddie come in. Yeah. Yeah.

I guess yeah. Purple people leader. That's a dude. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, run. Oh, what's a. I like short shorts. Yeah. There you go.

Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. That's a guy.

Oh, yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, man would write that song. Yeah. But a bikini on a 14 year old. Yeah.

Probably believe me. There were so many songs I was sitting with Natalie and I was just like going through. I was like. Young blood.

She was only 17. Yeah. Just all every song. Yeah. The second half of that verse of a teeny tiny polka dot bikini is she wore it for the

first time today. I want to blow my brains out. Yeah. Yeah. There.

Well, by the early to mid-1960s Jimmy Savo was making the modern equivalent of half a million

pounds a year. And he used that money to rent a one bedroom apartment in Manchester specifically for raping and abusing teenagers. And don't worry. Savo did everything he could to make this apartment as evil as possible.

He was painted black wall to wall. It only had one red light bulb swing for illumination. This den of horror was dubbed by Jimmy Savo as the black pad. But even though Jimmy Savo was obviously feeling a bit invincible police reports were being made concerning the crime.

Savo was committed. In the later months of 1963, 13 separate allegations of sexual abuse were made against Jimmy Savo, but not a single one of them led to anything resembling an investigation. 13.

“13 in a few months between October and December, I think.”

So would they kept it on record? Obviously. They just quietly followed it away. That is just like, oh, yeah, a report was made, but you just followed a report away. Ports made all the time.

Well, that fall, a man went to a police station in Westminster to report that Jimmy Savo had sexually abused his girlfriend at a BBC studio, but the man who made the report was threatened with arrest himself and told to go away. Salas crimes, however, were not limited to teenage girls. Seems like the more famous Jimmy Savo got, the wider his pool of victims grew.

And Savo was truly giving in to sexual predation at every level. In October, two boys aged 11 and 14 appeared in juvenile court for stealing a watch from Jimmy Savo's apartment, but no one thought to ask, why were these boys even in Jimmy Savo's

And, you know, that's kind of sideways.

“He was not a material, not a direct allegations, but more concretely, Savo allegedly raped”

a 10-year-old boy in 1963. This boy had asked Jimmy for an autograph after recognizing him outside of a hotel. Jimmy took the boy into the hotel and, quote, assaulted him by penetration. But again, no action was taken. - This is a form of autograph.

(laughing) - I guess you were getting rid of that. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's saying it. That's saying it. - I want you to be that popular. I want you to be the prider, son. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

- He even wanted to save the child, since it's funny. - No, no, people really like it. They really did really love you. Forget about it and move on. And so the man did move on, best as he could, and all of the 1963 allegations were quietly filed away and hidden. None of the reports were shared with Savel's home force, the West Yorkshire police, but it really wouldn't have mattered if they had

been shared because Savel could already count on the cops in Northern England to always take

his side no matter what by this point in time, by the 1963 he already had it under control.

“- Also, it's like important to remember, he is like a regular criminal also.”

- Yeah, you know, like he's not just a rapist. He like steals for people. He does like all these weird shady deals and these clubs with the mob, but they're version of the mob. - Oh yeah, but it's like so he has the cops in his pocket. It's just like we are now just talking about his most horrible crimes. - You're right. - And so there was nothing but constant rumor and accusation concerning what Jimmy Savel was

getting up to both at the clubs and at the BBC, but the organizations he worked for only increased Savel's exposure to young teenage girls. This was chiefly because teenagers have become a massively profitable business due in no small part to the meteoric rise of the beetles, which very unfortunately does involve Jimmy Savel. Thankfully, the beetles are not involved in any sexual crimes whatsoever. - No, they just didn't fit in.

“- Yeah, I mean, at the very least, they all said they were very sorry. But since they and Jimmy Savel”

rose in fame at the same time, they worked on a lot of shows together in the early days of the beetles fame. I only mentioned it because Jimmy Savel used that cultural cachet to his advantage throughout his life. See, while the beetles were in their early 20s, Savel was nearing his late 30s. Into the beetles, Jimmy Savel was just sort of an old hustler who kept his distance whenever the beetles wanted to hang out, which was kind of fiber. Like, they were actually a little

fibergast, and they were like, "Where are the beetles? Don't you want to hang out with us?" And he's like, "Nope, nope, boy, going to bed, going to bed, they're like smart." - Yeah, he just wanted the picture. - Yeah, he's very smart. - He was actually much more of a Rolling Stones guy, because if you know anything about the history of the Rolling Stones, we'd a little bit about the making of exile on Main Street. That was

quite dark in that French Vila. And if you know that Mick Jagger was a part of Jeffrey Epstein's social circle, it's pretty easy to figure out why Jimmy Savel was more attracted to the stones than the beetles. - Yeah, the stones personally made two documentaries of talking about fucking people. It shouldn't have been fucking good. - Oh, yeah, definitely. - Yeah, it was called coxucker blues. - Yeah, and the other one was stones in exile, yes.

But as I said, Jimmy Savel mostly used musicians for props and opportunities. In this last story that we're going to tell today, this is going to tell you how far in advance Savel would set up an assault and just how much thought he put into each one. In a way, he almost reminds me of BTK and the so-called projects that BTK would embark upon that would often in murder. So Jimmy Savel had kept in contact with Elvis Presley. There are many photos of Jimmy and Elvis.

But that first famous photo with the king had given Savel a permanent connection to Elvis

in the UK. So when the 16-year-old president of the Elvis Presley fan club came on Radio Luxembourg in 1963, Jimmy Savel was the one to interview the teenage girl. Jimmy asked her for a picture of herself so he could show it to Elvis next time he saw him. And indeed, after Jimmy went to America

so he could give her a gift from Elvis. Now this girl was ecstatic because she thought

“that she was going to meet someone who had talked about her to Elvis himself and Elvis had a gift”

what's not to love. But when she got to Jimmy's room, he answered the door in his pajamas. He then immediately penned her to a wall where he aggressively kissed her and called her an angel.

Finally, he forced her to the bed and raped her and acted afterwards as if he had done her a favor.

After he got dressed, one of Jimmy's friends knocked on the door for a dinner date and Savel casually asked the girl if she wanted to join them. She said no. So Savel left her in the room after pointing out that he'd brought back three pins from America for her. They all said, "I'm a kiss and cousin," which was a reference to Elvis's latest film, Kiss and Cousins. Worst of all though, Jimmy Savel had gotten the girl pregnant and when Savel had the nerve to call

the girl's house afterward, the girl's mother told Savel about the child. Savel simply said, "That wasn't possible," and he hung up. The girl had to get an illegal abortion, performed without pagan killers for 150 pounds. About the equivalent of $4,000 today. It was paid for by her

“grandmother and I think they said it took her two years to pay off the debt. She's fucking Christ.”

And that was Jimmy's anytime, anyone ever said that Jimmy said, Jimmy had it in his head that he was sterile.

He truly believed that he was sterile. He wasn't. He absolutely wasn't. No, he didn't. There were a lot of abortions. Do you think there's kids? There are a couple of people who claim to be Jimmy Savel's children, but they were a few that came up right after he died, but after everything started coming out, everyone's like, "You know, maybe he's not my dad." Maybe I shouldn't. And also after it was discovered that

most of his money went to charity, there were very few people who actually got a part of his for considerable fortune. He gave it all away. He also lived like, again, we'll get to say, he lived like a total fucking popper. He did this. He does that thing. He's weird. By the end of 1963, it was obvious that pop music was going to be one of the biggest moneymakers in post-war England. In Jimmy Savel, despite his reputation as a sexual monster,

with scene as a sort of teenage whisper, who knew exactly what the kids like to hear. In other words, Jimmy Savel's reputation as a taste maker outweighed his reputation as a sexual predator. So when the BBC came up with a new music countdown show, they tapped Jimmy Savel as the host. That show was, of course, top of the pops. And that is where we will pick back up next week for part two of this sickening saga. And by the way, it only gets worse from here.

It really does. It looks like you haven't even, we haven't even scratched the surface. Unfortunately, we have not. Like that is really kind of, again, why he's ahead on the Mount Rushmore revival. Because right now, he's just a DJ a club owner and a promoter. Yeah, like there's a half, there's probably, at this point, a few dozen guys in England, just like Jimmy Savel at this point. Yeah, more. Yeah, right now the people that he's assaulting

still are like sound of mind. Yes. And it is going to get much, much worse. But we're just going to get funnier. Yeah. And that's all we promised to do here. Right, Eddie? Sure. You know, you just have a good time here. So go to bedjurin.com/slastbodyguests and let them pay for ad free episodes. Also to see us live every Tuesday, 5 p.m. P.S.T. for lash stream on the left. And don't forget to watch us on Netflix. If you want to see us do this whole thing, you can see us

over there. If you have a Netflix con, if you have a Netflix subscription, you can watch us. We're out there. Netflix, you can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Netflix, I'll Australia. Let us know if you have a great molester that you would like us to do. I mentioned him. He is like a timey kangaroo down. Yeah. You guys know who he is. You guys like him. Yeah. There is a roll ferris. Roll ferris. Yeah. I'm pretty sure we spent like a good 30 minutes on an episode around

table talking about this. Oh, sure. It's a great dinghy doosler. Yeah, very, very fantastic. Time to kangaroo down. Spont time to kangaroo down. Literally was there for that episode. Yeah.

“Yeah, I just remember that now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Welcome. Was did he work in spookers?”

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watch Bloodbath because we're going to be shooting second season very soon. Yeah. So go watch

that before we play that second season. Also, come see us on the road. Dude, we're going to be

out. I want Julie's family to see him. Not a fucking piece of shit. They got to see him. They got to see

“him right now. I'm not doing great. Yeah. I'm not doing great. Yeah. I'm not doing great. What”

I want that they got to know that I'm a good guy. Yeah. So come on out to the taff theater and let them know. Also, that's going to be on April 25th. The day after Henry and I are going to be in Lexington doing a side stories. But last podcast is on the road. And we're only doing the

show that we've been doing five more times. Yeah. So that is the first time we're saying this.

But we will say this is to do a microphone. This is that we are coming to the end of J. K. Ultra at the end of this current book. Okay. This these current book dates. But that doesn't mean we're stopping. That's right. Because we're going to be immediately announcing our next door. Yeah. So that is a where it is happening. We're so excited. We're going to be coming up with the new show. But up until

“I believe Oklahoma City Oklahoma City. That's where we're ending this door. Okay. Okay. Ultra dies”

in Oklahoma City. You ready here first. Yes. So we're at April 25th. Cincinnati, Ohio, May 29th,

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, June 27th, Grand Rapids, Michigan, July 17th, Tulsa, Oklahoma, July 18th, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, come and see J. K. Ultra live. I'm a fucking road. Oklahoma. A lot of stuff dies in Oklahoma. Yeah. Yeah. So I think this is appropriate. Many of my ancestors came very close to dying in Oklahoma during the dust ball. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. That dust didn't kill us.

“Just can't kill me. That's right. Yep. Takes bullet to his head. He'll sweetstate and everyone.”

Hell, again. There are many things they can kill me. Oh, hell. Mother Teresa because fuck her. She was a fucking liar. Yeah. She was a liar. She was a devil. Yeah. She was a devil. It was a devil episode. You know, I don't want to hail someone. I like. Okay. Okay. How's it about it? Why don't we help Paul McCartney? Because he has this good one. Yeah. Well, because it's like Paul McCart, it's so funny to read and hear him talk about Jimmy Savoys.

Like, goes a bit of a time. We just saw him. It's a bit of a Tesla man. But you know, we always had

we always made sure that the goes were okay. I'm just gonna talk about this. But yeah. Yeah. Paul McCartney's fine. Yeah. All the Beatles in the beat limit. John Leonard beat. Yeah. And Ringo stars. Well, really? Yeah. Yeah. Bad alcoholic in the in the 80s or 90s. He was just fine. He's in love. No. He's in love. But he came out and he did admit to it and greatly like apologize for it. But he's working on it. Yeah. No song. Yeah. I know. Yeah, man. And John Leonard and also did address the domestic stuff.

And he did also apologize for it as well. He said I'm sorry. He tried. And then he got shot and he got back. And then he got shot. Yeah. I'm gonna shot the face. That's the back. Cool. Yep. In the back by the CIA.