Episode 659: Jimmy Savile Part II - The Devil Behind the Curtain

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“Get it out now, right at the beginning. Young girl, get out of my mind, my love for you is away, I'm in a run girl. Jesus, what the hell's up from?”

Young girl, wow, that just in his house. He was for Silla Presley, what was it, 14 years old when he met her, welcome to the last podcast on the late ladies and gentlemen, my name is Marcus Parks, I'm here with the golden throat of podcasting Henry's of Rowsky. My name is Gary Puckett, and I sang the song Younger, and I died smiling, no one knew my cry. He was Gary Puckett, what was his band again? The union gap, that's right, union gap. Yeah, stand with that gap.

And we have the last podcast on the left, resident safety expert Ed Larson, how are you doing Ed? I feel it all right, you know, I'm feeling great now and bad later. I'm feeling bad now because I've been spending day after day and hour after hour with the story of Jimmy Savel, we're here part two of three and this is one of the longest scripts I have ever written. Yeah, I've been watching that Steve Cougan show and barely any jokes.

“Yeah, I Steve Cougan, Jimmy Savel, nothing.”

I sent him here waiting for the last one for the yucks. And it's true, yeah, he did all sorts of impressions. Yeah, he has done the Michael King thing once, no one. Michael King, Michael King, Michael King, Michael King.

Yeah, let's celebrate a little bit of nice British history for a second, Michael King.

Michael King, that's nice. You know, he's been like, I'm not, he brings it down. Yeah, I got the great bit. That's all over now. When we last left Jimmy Savel, the year was 1963 and 13 allegations of sexual assault and abuse

had been made against the most evil man in England to various police stations around the nation over the course of just a few months. Not a single one of those reports, however, had resulted in any sort of investigation.

“That's why we should give those cops guns.”

We can give them confidence to work harder. Partly, this is due to the fact that even though Jimmy was just starting to get famous, he had already formed numerous meaningful connections with law enforcement. Even worse, it's likely that the coppers were letting Jimmy know that people were making reports. But instead of stopping his increasingly monstrous behavior,

it seems like Jimmy Savel figured that he needed to do a bit of public relations. Something to bolster is public image. And convince the people of Britain that he was a good person, if a strange person. Now, as we said last episode, charity would become Jimmy Savel's most effective camouflage. But before Savel came to be known as the most successful philanthropist in England,

he had his mother, AKA the Duchess.

So I don't think it's a coincidence that Jimmy's first public appearances with the Duchess occurred in 1963,

which was the same year that the first wave of allegations began piling up against Jimmy Savel. Starting in 1963, the Duchess became Jimmy Savel's constant companion at film premieres and on holidays. His steady date, so to speak. And even though Jimmy Savel spent a lot of time on the road in his caravan,

he would live with his mother whenever he went back to his home base in Leeds. This, however, was not because the Duchess was pleasant company. The Duchess was cold and unpleasant to everyone, including Jimmy. And anyone who came in a Jimmy's orbit when the Duchess was around, got treated like a pimp who was just trying to squeeze money from her son.

You know, it's so hard with mommagers because they do ruin the whole crew. It ruins the set having them involved. But he says this in the psychiatrist chair interview. Like he specifically says, I started bringing my mother around with me because nobody doubts a guy that brings his mother around.

Is this idea of we're all like, we all are safe to assume he's kidding.

“Yeah, right, which is this thing that we're seeing right now with the president and all this kind of shit.”

But if there was one person that told you every single crime that he ever did, it's Jimmy Savel. Yep, not to be fair.

It seems like the Duchess never really had any real understanding of what Jimmy's career actually was.

She never watched nor listened to any of his shows and she never congratulated him for anything he did. Because she believed that show business was literally for to use a term for puffers and workers. She was one of those people that believed that it was like not real. Yeah. And from what I can tell, the Duchess still believed until the day she died that her son, like her husband,

made all of his money on the leads black market. And she was always waiting for the police to come arrest her son for theft. Because Jimmy Savel was making a lot of fucking money. But even though the Duchess was domineering, denigrating and rejecting, Savel was still embarrassingly devoted to her. Jimmy would get up every Sunday morning and take his mother to mass,

kissing her hand and deference, and draping his arm around her, like she was more girlfriend than mother. As record executive Tony Calder put it, it was obvious that Savel could not have a serious relationship with any woman, but his mother while she was still alive. But in the end, Jimmy's plan worked. He developed a reputation as a man who loved his mother, a good man.

And his close relationship with the Duchess certainly helped stave off any rumors that cropped up regarding Jimmy's sexual crimes. I bet you he even stole that whole fucking tack from Liberachi. Because Liberachi famously, you know, he was a bachelor and he lived in his homes. And he only ever talked about his mother, but that was viewed as, like, my mom.

Go bless her. Like she, my mom's fucking, like, because she just, she'd be a great Duchess. She wants this life. She wants this life.

“She kind of like, the way she viewed Barry Manlow, right?”

Like in her mind, homosexuals were, like, in not in, if she liked you, look much like Jimmy Savel. If she liked you as a man, you couldn't possibly be homosexual. Sure. Even though Barry Manlow got his start playing gay bathhouses in New York with bad men.

My mom was always holding on this.

No, I know what he's coming out. I don't think I can do it. I'm not coming out. I'm coming out. Yeah.

Unfortunately. Edgar, I'd listen to the divine mess and then come back and we'll talk. Billy suggests, no, the guy who wrote Copa Cabana is married to a man. And I am still alive, man. That is low.

Oh, my mom was always like, he's a bachelor. He's a bachelor. And then same thing with Liberachi. She always was like growing up. They did, there was no idea.

Like, he just like can't do this. Yes. He's covered in jewels and he's got it in a feminine way. And it's on slang nails. But because he loves his mother, like, it's this whole thing.

Like, I've chosen a character. And then it's been real.

“And I think at this time period, it really was like, okay, he's a mother guy.”

Yeah. And people believe what they want to believe. You know, your mother believed the Barry Manelow was straight because she had a crush on Barry Manelow. And she wanted to think that maybe one day she could be with Barry Manelow. She wanted to be Lola.

Yeah. And turns out, Lola. Big ol' hog on him. Yeah. It was so funny.

My mom got divorced. My father. She really thought that she was going to start dating Billy Joel. That is. That's like on my feet towards solution.

I'm going towards future grace. But it works the same way as Jimmy Savill. Is that people wanted to believe that Jimmy Savill was a good man. That there was a man in Britain who was charitable, who really only cared about helping other people. And was not an absolute monster.

And he was like a toy that would go back in its cupboard and then the cupboard reclosed. And he would start his penis to go away. Yeah. Now even though accusations of sexual misconduct had followed Jimmy Savill, wherever he went from the moment he entered the entertainment industry,

Savill was unfortunately incredibly good at his job. The British people found him entertaining. And he had an innate understanding of what teenagers like to see and what they like to hear. And so a BBC producer contacted Jimmy Savill in late 1963 about being a presenter

on the first episode of a music countdown show called "Top of the Pops" that was aimed directly at British teams.

Now, it really can't be overstated just how big of a cultural impact the top of the Pops had on not just the UK, but on the entire Western world. Performances made by both British and American artists on top of the Pops could be cultural watersheds. And the show itself remained relevant for decades. Well, into the 1990s and it started in 1964.

David Bowie brought glam rock to the masses when he performed "Starman" on top of the Pops in 1972. When he draped his arm around Mick Ronson, it changed the way people thought about male relationships in the UK.

And he never did anything wrong.

Not a single boy George. He just kept that one hand hostage in his basement. He pushed the boundaries of gender. When culture club made their debut on top of the Pops ten years after David Bowie.

“Hell, even the Spice Girls, who I will legitimately defend as an important pop group.”

They broke through on top of the Pops. That's where they got famous. Incredible artists, scaling glitter, Michael Jackson. So many crazy artists from the top of the Pops. Is he here in the Spice Girls back on tour?

They had a baby spice at a change in their name. Well, yeah. Old Spice. You can see it for the road ahead.

But lurking in the background of a hundred of incredible performances that influenced

Generation after Generation of British Musicians was Jimmy Savo. And Jimmy perverted one of mankind's greatest accomplishments. Musical expression to constantly feed his most coronal desires. I just can't believe Carson Daley wasn't the rapist. He was on the sea.

I feel like when it comes to why Carson Daley wasn't. The hair. He's attractive. From hair. Wrong hair.

Wrong hair. Now the first episode is top of the Pops aired on New Year's Day 1964 with Jimmy Savo as the host. The show was an immediate hit.

It ran for 42 years and had an average viewership of 15 million people a week.

It didn't lose cultural relevance until the 2000s. But in the process, Jimmy Savo made household names out of bands and he broke countless careers. All while he made himself perhaps the most well known household name of all, at least within the UK. In other words, Jimmy Savo was attaching himself to pleasure, to joy, ensuring that everyone who watched top of the Pops associated him with the incredible feelings we get when we hear something new and exciting.

Savo, however, was not the only host. Top of the Pops had a rotating team of four presenters, including Jimmy Savo. But while all four hosts were approaching their 40th birthday when the first episode aired in 1964, Jimmy Savo was the one who presented himself as much younger. While the other hosts dressed and groomed themselves appropriately for their age, according to the standards of the time, suits and well groomed hair,

Jimmy Savo, at 38 years old, did everything he could to attract attention and set himself apart as, quote, "the world's oldest teenager."

“That's how he liked to refer to himself.”

And the other hosts took note. Yes. Savo would appear on camera without explanation dressed as a Roman Legionnaire, or a Pharaoh. He liked to wear costumes. Sometimes he'd wear suit, adorned with real bananas, or a hat covered in flashing lights.

His hair was also longer, the most of the acts, male or female. And he bleached and straightened his hair to make himself look even more bizarre and even more clownish. It's almost like his job was boring, and he had to dress like that, so people would remember who he was. You know, I also think that he understood about creating a unique, iconic, classic image. Yeah.

That would make people believe that when you're meeting him, you're meaning Ronald McDonald. Yeah. And he liked being recognized in public. Okay. It's the only, it's a way the whole fucking gig worked.

He was so addicted to being recognized in public that they said he was, any time he was outside of the UK, he was like a scared little boy. He was afraid because nobody knew who he was, and he needed people to know who he was. Yeah. If he came to America, he's just a creepy fucking old man.

Yeah.

“That's what he was when he came to America.”

I knew who he was with the Vatican. There were a lot of guys over there. It's a real boy's club over there. No, both the British audiences and the people at the BBC agreed that Jimmy Savile looked odd. But when it came to his bosses at the bead, Savile was also, even though he looked incredibly strange,

he was also the most professional of all the presenters. He was the one that the producers didn't have to watch or tell what to do, where every other host had to be briefed by a producer before every taping, Savile could go on air without so much as a word. And the man and charge top of the pop to the BBC came to as he put it,

believe in Jimmy Savile. Savile was trusted. And the freedom earned by his competence was twisted into something evil almost immediately. I'm going to say this has an executive producer. We don't work.

There is work here. And there's work to do, obviously.

That's the person who works quite a bit of work.

All right. This is hard as the co-producer. Yes.

“And I think that they look at Jimmy Savile.”

And when they could see somebody, they don't have to lead by the hand. It's very easy to do. He was a natural. Yeah.

He was. Did he host it all the way to the show's end? No. He was one of the fourth. I can't remember what year he stopped presenting on it.

I mean, because at one point he just looked too old. Yeah. He's like already, you know, he's already in his late 30s when the show starts. You can't have a show like that. It's aimed at teenagers.

You can't have a 50 60 year old man come on stage. You know, he appeared in the very last episode at top of the pops. I do know that. Yes. He hosted the very last episode.

He came back.

“Now, Jimmy Savile's reputation is a professional followed him to top of the pops.”

So too did his reputation for having an insatiable desire to have sex with as many young girls as possible. Making Savile the host of a show with a live teenage audience was putting the proverbial cat amongst the pigeons. Because considering how many massively popular bands and artists were constantly performing on top of the pops, I mean, the Beatles were there all the time.

The Rolling Stones were there. There was no shortage of prey for Jimmy Savile. Reportedly, from nearly the beginning, Savile would find a teenage girl from the live studio audience and disappear from the set for 20 minutes into a private room. That aside, Savile acting often almost automatic compulsion would pull down his pants and rape

the girl who was often too shocked or frightened to react. And our later, Savile would be ready to go again. And another girl would disappear. Don't get that out. You're right.

This is crazy. This is why. And another girl would disappear for another 20 minutes. And then when the taping was done for the day, they would still be a steady stream of teenage girls in and out of the 38 year old Jimmy Savile's apartment.

Because his sexual needs were truly bottomless. But when pressed as to what happened when these girls would be alone with Savile by author Dan Davies, Savile would say he was engaged in, quote, "Nice, friendly things. Tea and friendliness."

He also said that he only liked girly girls. And didn't have time for girls who were too smart. Again, this was Savile knowing what he could get away with. And this was also Savile openly telling people how he did it every step of the way without actually telling them.

"You see, I tried to tell you to me what you got to do. Where's weight?

Do the first snore in the end.

Obviously big cap. I'm not as high. You don't already for penetration from the communion." "No health sex was Jimmy Savile's number one impulse. He could also be incredibly violent.

A young man who became friendly with Jimmy Savile said that he was walking to visit the famous TV presenter one day in 1964 when a gang of British streettops appeared and started giving the kid a hard time. "We've ever been to England to regular occurants." "Guy remember."

"Yanky, yanky." "The amorcus and I were threatened by my little boys." "Yeah, there was a ten. I know, I still owe them money for that. Absolutely, definitely."

"And I'm going to get an every little boys of man." Well, seemingly out of nowhere, Jimmy Savile appeared like a pedophile Batman and grabbed one of the troublemakers. Savile plunged his thumb into the troublemakers eye socket, causing blood and viscera to spur out Savile took this boy's eye and thought nothing of it, simply went on with his day.

Savile could also get threatening and violent with the musicians on top of the pops.

In July of 1964, the Rolling Stones were set to perform their first number one hit.

It's all over now, but they had decided to be difficult once they arrived at the BBC studios. When they refused to go on stage for the taping, Jimmy Savile personally threatened the Rolling Stones, telling them that if they weren't going to play, they could choose to be unconscious instead. Because Jimmy's so-called "minders" were going to beat them half to death if they didn't make the recording. Stones, of course, played and returned to top of the pops numerous times over the years for many more performances.

I have to see them try that with motorhead. Seriously.

“God, how satisfying would it be to watch Jimmy Savile to death?”

No, I would have got nothing would have made me die of happiness. Just put a cigarette out of his eye. To me, they talked about this scene and they talked about how he switched and how he came in the room. And he's Jimmy Savile, clown man, and then all of a sudden his voice drops like three octaves. And then he's growling at you and you're actually scared of this man.

Well, they're also Keith Richards was 17, 18 at the time.

“But still, if I was an 18 year old like rock star and some old weird man came back here to tell me what to do.”

Like how many times rock stars are going to go like fuck you. There's something about him. Well, that scared the fucking shit out of him. Because he had fucking henchmen behind him. Yeah.

You fuck around with the BBC back then. Rock and roll also is like 10 days old at this point. Yeah. You know. Savile, however, was not content to keep his sexual crimes to just the BBC Studios.

His sexual appetite. I mean, you can get as many synonyms as you want. It's truly ravenous. In BBC, they used to term he was an extravagant sexual offender. Yeah.

Which to me kind of affects those the guardian that call them an extravagant sexual offender. Yeah.

Which to me, you know, means like a lot of like wigs.

You know, I give you an extravagant sexual offender. I'm thinking there you have a your own semi with all the gear. Yeah. It was roasted nerds. It's been in too much money.

Not even looking at price tag. Not even looking. Well, when Jimmy Savile wasn't filming episodes at the top of the pops. He was roaming England in his caravan with a Jaguar sports car, hitched to the back in search of more victims.

One of his favorite hunting spots was Scarborough Beach on the eastern coast of northern England. Because as we'll get into later, Scarborough's mayor was also a sexual predator who terrorized the youth of this seaside town for three decades. But when Savile was solo in Scarborough, he would park his caravan on the cliff tops than unhitched the Jaguar so he could roam in the area.

Once he found a girl or multiple girls, he'd take them back to his secluded caravan where I'm sure the implication was quite strong. But even when Savile was confronted by reporters with the fact that maybe this was a bad thing to do, he would maintain that these girls they threw themselves at him. They fell in love with him.

And then they broke up with him. And it all happened in a matter of days. No harm, no foul. In fact, Savile fancied himself as such a coxman that he claimed many of these girls would mail him Christmas cards for years after the sexual encounters they had

in his souped up caravan on the cliffs of Scarborough. This of course was another of Jimmy Savile's mini-lies. He can't mail a Christmas card to a fan. You need to do about art. You need to use blitz in himself.

You mean, I feel like that takes a little bit of Christmas magic.

“Maybe Santa is involved because I think that if there is somebody that Jimmy Savile knew”

it might have been Santa. Also, this isn't helping the reputation of fans. It's not. No, I mean, this is an RV. It's not a van. It's just an England they call caravise caravan.

A rape vehicle. Yes. They also call undershirts fests. Really? I've got a fucked up dumb stuff over there.

You're acting like a real cigarette. The Jimmy Savile continued to show up on the radar of the police throughout the 1960s. But again, nothing was ever done. According to a report from the London Metro Police's pedophile unit in 1964. Pedophile.

Pedophile. They did is compete a file. You're a pedophile. He's doing the Irish one. Have a seat of no.

Well, we'll get into that on the next episode when we talk about Lord Mountbatten. Oh, can't wait for him.

“What do they all have like rape buildings in their name?”

Jimmy Savile. Yeah. Bounce. According to this report, an investigation occurred in which police discovered that there was a house in Battersea, where several girls and the young boy were being pimped out by three men.

Jimmy Savile was recorded as a regular visitor to this house. And it isn't a coincidence that the girls in question had escaped from an institution called the Duncroft Approved School for Girls. This institution, which will get into in great detail later, looms large in Jimmy Savile's later charity work.

And it's possible that this underage brothel is where Jimmy first heard of the Duncroft Approved School for Girls.

Yeah. Instead of where the boys aren't, it should be where the boys shouldn't be. That doesn't make any sense. We're trying men. We're trying men.

We're trying men. We're trying men. I'm not going to be a man. Yeah. It's hard.

It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. I'm not. It's hard.

When the boys aren't seriously not as popular as it used to be. I don't know what that is. Oh, you fucking. I think you do. I don't.

Where the boys aren't? Well, there was one boy there. Look there. Yeah. Now we're out talking about it.

Put on your free markets. Oh, it's fucking pornography. I got it. I get it. I get it.

But before Jimmy Savile truly dove into his so-called charity work,

Because Jimmy Savile's relations with law enforcement were probably the largest thing that kept him out of jail for so many years.

“In 1966, a police officer from Manchester said that he was one of many law enforcement officials”

who paid social visits to Jimmy Savile's Manchester apartment. This officer said that several teenage girls and several police were a near-constant presence at Savile's flat. And that his fellow police officers would often disappear into the back rooms with Jimmy's teenage visitors.

This officer, however, insisted as everyone always did that all the girls were at or above the age of consent.

60. You can tell it's easy to do. Okay? Like, listen, all you got to do is check their ID's funny. I'm just joking.

I do it with my pinky. That's the thing about that you don't know. In the UK at the age of 16, everyone actually gets a what's called a fuck card in the mail. And then you just show that fuck card. Actually, it's called like a shag pass.

Yeah. Yeah.

“Well, this officer also weekly added that in 1966,”

quote, "Nobody had to really add a pedophiles."

Yeah. Nobody had heard of pedophiles in 1966. No. No. Except for, you know, kids.

Why are we asking kids all these points? We're asking them that. But this is bullshit. I mean, there were multiple police departments in England that had established pedophile units. Yeah.

He has a few years earlier. Yeah. Now pedophile unit isn't just them hanging out. I mean, no. They're looking for him.

Yeah. Savile had his own pedophile unit. His pain is pain. Yeah. He also had his own group.

We'll get to that next episode. But it was balls. [LAUGHTER] Where the boys should have been.

“But it wasn't just the cops who were ignoring and are participating in Savile's crimes.”

In the mid-60s, a young reporter named Alan Leak spent time with the four presenters from top of the pops. But the time he spent with Jimmy Savile had a far more sinister tenor than all the rest. Now to show you just how confident Jimmy Savile was, how he hid in plain sight, and how people simply ignored his evil behavior. Savile on several occasions brought an underage girl into the presence of this reporter to show her off before Savile disappeared with her into another room.

After the standard Jimmy Savile 20 minutes, Savile would reappear and wash his gross little penis off in the kitchen sink in front of the reporter, which gave the reporter a sense that he had been fully complicit in what Jimmy Savile had just done. The reporter also confirmed that several police officers were regular visitors to Jimmy's flat. The reporter even talked to some of the girls who all said that Savile engaged in quote "quick sex" in either his car or in his flat. And these girls were also openly offered by Jimmy Savile to the reporter for sexual favors.

But again, when the reporter was asked why he didn't expose Jimmy Savile in 1966, he could only offer the weak excuse that he quote "hadnt got a story" from his time with Savile.

Perhaps the reporter bought in Savile's claims that the girls were always making up lies about Savile to get attention.

That they were always lying that he'd gotten them pregnant, even though he claimed to be sterile, which he wasn't. It could also be that the reporter knew that if he took a shot at Jimmy Savile and missed, his entire life was over it was ruined. There it is. Because who would believe that Jimmy Savile, a man who helped people and loved his mother, so much could be such a brazen monster. Just decided that's but my pay grade. Yes, literally what he decided. He watched all this and he was like, this is so institutionalized.

I'm fucked. Yeah, that's not what I can do about it. There's all these police officers here. He's openly washing his dick in front of me. Yeah, this is, I'm now a criminal. Yeah, I'm one now. Now reporters and cops weren't Savile's only enablers in his crimes.

Savile would actually employ people to assist him in his sexual misdeeds, men like Dave Eager. Another bad name, man named. My name is Rodney Kidfucker. Yeah, you wouldn't get excited. The name comes from a long line of Swedish Kidfucker.

You would just say cold, we would have 12 children. We'd murder them through the window. We'd kill them. We'd fuck them and kill them throughout the winter in order to stay warm. I'm a kid fucker. I'm a kid fucker.

I'm a lady. I do, and I'm the, I'm a hurtman in the hermit's manager.

Dave Eager was groomed as a DJ and an assistant to Jimmy Savile in the mid-1960s.

Eager was paid 10 pounds a week to go through Jimmy's fan mail to find teenage girls for Jimmy to contact and rape. Additionally, Eager would make sure that the newspapers knew that all of the girls, a Jimmy was having sex with were of legal age. That was part of his job.

And that's of course when many of these girls were not of legal age. With men like Dave Eager on his side, men who still insisted after Savile's death that they knew nothing, even though they themselves were procuring victims, Savile entered the peak of his crimes in 1966. And he destroyed lives across Britain at an unimaginable rate for the next 10 years.

You know, it's like, it's that whole hidden plain sight thing that we've been talking about. You know, it's like if he, people see him take a young girl and he like waves and all of them and walks into the room with her, this, he got to think there's no ways doing anything bad. Now he just showed all of us that he's going in the room with her.

No, he is exactly doing, he's doing his crimes out loud. Yeah, he's unashamed. Yeah.

And he believes he's entirely above any form of reproach.

And he, because he is. Yeah. Can't get him. Kevin got him yet? They never did.

They never got him. But you know who got him? Poor St. Peter. No, by the mid-1960s, Savel was incredibly wealthy from all the various gigs in which he was becoming one of the most famous men in Britain.

Radio Luxembourg was still going strong. Top of the pops was a massive hit. And he was still DJing at dance halls across England. With these huge paychecks, Jimmy Savel bought a Rolls Royce, something that he dreamed of since his days as a bevin' boy.

But Rolls Royce would become one of his trademark accessories along with his cigar.

“He was, because they remember he had a fake Rolls Royce.”

Yeah, he had actually, he had turned a junker into a, like, as sort of like Frankenstein Rolls Royce. Yes. Now he, he actually, but he, and he also talked in that interview about how he would always constantly buy a new one, because he said, if something happened to me tomorrow,

if something came out about me tomorrow, if it was all over tomorrow, I'd rather have a new Rolls Royce than an old one. And honestly, four predators. It's great advice. If you've got the money now, I get all right now.

If you're just about to be canceled, you know it's coming. By that car right now. I want to know that. This is the time. Because you're going to have a lot more fun talking to your lawyer on a cell phone

in the Rolls Royce. Because you're not going to have a home anymore. You're not going to have a wife anymore. And kids anymore, you're going to have a lot of time in that car.

Yeah, but remember, there's always going to, it's going to be eventually the third

act of Boogie Nights, where you're in that really nice car that Corvette, but it's broken down now. Eventually, that's going to be your life. Yeah, it can't afford to fix it. Yes, because that point, then, that's when you finally get all the good will that we've been begging you for and you blow your fucking brains out.

And that's how you turn it all around. That's the kind of apology I want to see. Well, because Jimmy Savo was now publicly rich, he started doing publicity stunts for charity, making huge shows of donating to the poor, and donating to organizations that help the sick.

These stunts, of course, also did a great job of hiding who Jimmy Savo really was. In one stunt, Jimmy worked in a Welsh coal mine to raise money to buy a guy dog for a minor who'd been blinded on the job. That's just an example of like the small things that Jimmy Savo would show up for.

But it's a kind of thing that makes the juices up every fucking local idiot. They're all just like, "Oh, look what he did. How would they've opted to tow more? "It's not sticky, you're going to blow in me any bit out." Oh, fuck, Jimmy Savo were ever had his shit with the job,

“but remember when he helped all Braun Belly with his dog?”

Liffin, if he was going to do anything, he would have right to that minor in front of all of us. Because I'm sure I know it because it's nothing worse. Then a blind lost minor. Make all that open for the open to be full.

Open for cock and ass. So he was like, "Nice to those minors." To those minors. Yeah. Well, using his supposed time in the Beben Boys,

Savo actually managed to insert himself into every coal mining kerffluffle of the decade. And there were many. The most tragic of which, of course, was the Avavan disaster of 1966.

That October, a huge pile of waste material from a local mine collapsed in the town of Avavan after heavy rains. Now this wouldn't have been an issue. Had the pile not been located on a mountain above the town against every safety regulation in existence.

Oh, no, we shouldn't have put that mountainous shed there. Oh, no, no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're going to be being a problem, man.

“I think I put it on top of the town and don't pop them down.”

Oh, no.

And when it collapsed in the rain, it transformed into a raging flood of coal slurry,

“a godly fist of industrial waste, 140,000 tons of this shed,”

crushed down the mountain and smashed into a local school,

killing 116 children and 28 adults.

They died horrible deaths involving either crushing or suffocation. No, no, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no.

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“of an his primary residence, he became more elusive than ever.”

Now, considering what Jimmy Savall was known to get up to with the BBC Studios, they were obvious implications as to what it meant to have him roaming around England unsupervised. Nobody at the BBC, however, even tried keeping tabs on Jimmy Savall. As long as he showed up where he was supposed to and kept delivering ratings,

the BBC was criminally hands off when it came to their top presenter.

In the TV show, the Steve Cooge and show that I'm washing on all this, they would do highlight Savall travels, but it would be like, I don't know how if this is true, they dramatized this, but he would like rape somebody and then interview them and put it on the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be like, oh, she sounds nervous. It's so cute, you know, but he truth is he just assaulted that person.

Yeah, and then put it their voice all across the fucking country. They legitimately just didn't want to get, we're going to see too, which I'll bring up later on. There's a sense of, which I'm finding, indeed, you know, we've seen it before, but it's it's specifically noticeable here of the British police a little bit being like you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a little bit of, there's not a little bit of that. There's a lot of that.

“And there's our hats, make them look like little penis. You think?”

Right, you think? You think? You think? You think? You think? You think? There is something about we're going to see this with necrophilia. We're going to see this with pedophilia. There's a whole, there's a whole, like, all the feelings. People don't do this vibe that they are trying to say that it's embarrassing to talk about. These are crimes that are embarrassing and that you can't just, like, kind of bandy all these things about and they just don't want to

get involved. There's a paradox with the British people where they're at the same time. They're both disgusting and just a fucking filthy people. Yeah, which I like that. I like that about. I love that. Makes me proud to be a, yeah, British descent. But they're also, they don't like to talk about it. No. You know, like they, they're totally embarrassing. And yeah, ending to talk about their, their sexual peccadillos. But they still do it. Yeah, Fred and Rose West.

Now when it comes to how to give it a portion, I'll give it a�, break it all for portion. Well, speaking to be in British, when it comes to how Salvo got away with all this for so long, it's my personal opinion that the British concept of cheekiness plays a massive role here. That's also across the fucking board dude. Just be in fucking, we see America also critique. We really define that. It's just a joke. Oh, yes, funny. People can wave off

all manner of horrible things by calling it cheeky. Lock a room talk. As it's been said here in America. Yeah. And Jimmy Savo figured out in the late 60s, just how effective cheek could be in obfuscating his true goals. For example, in 1967, Jimmy Savo was invited to be the guest of honor at an event in the civil parish of Otley in Leeds. Savo was invited by the mayor himself, Ronnie Duncan, but Ronnie Duncan. You know what he's Duncan. But Jimmy Savo agreed to this event

under six conditions. But these conditions eventually became standard for most Jimmy Savo appearances.

You might call it Jimmy Savo's writer. Yeah. First, Jimmy Savo's fee of 200 pounds should be donated

to a local charity. Great. Nice. Second, Savo was to be given a tint in the local park where he would sleep every night. Okay. Third, Savo demanded a so-called honor guard of 16 age girls

“to quote keep him safe at the campsite overnight. Can I just say, can I just put my head in here?”

I do believe that that's not obvious. No. I just feel like that might be a bit of,

Yeah. And he put it. I think he purposefully put that as the third condition. Right in the middle.

Fourth, Savo demanded a special tour of oddly hospital and a painting of the hospital had to be made and honorably presented to Jimmy Savo. And finally, Savo requested all the cigars and matches he desired along with an astray. He's also quite a lover of fake awards and fake honoraries. That is one of his favorite things in the world is for people to give him things. Now, the obvious standout on his writer is of course the six girls. But while some of the council

members in Otley were apprehensive when they heard this, we only have four extra girls. It's the sound of every British person covering up crimes in its entire circle. Well, Mayor Ronnie Duncan readily agreed to all of the conditions.

"You bet Jimmy. Not that I like better. I can find you a couple extra girls."

Because, you know, of the appearance of Jimmy Savo at a civic event, guaranteed record numbers. In fact, the six girls provided to Jimmy Savo as his honor guard were all daughters of local counselors in businessmen. And they're these fat foxes that all do the same. They're all like, "Hey, can I have multiple?" Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, they're all there. Now go kiss him. Yeah. Don't kiss me to Savo. Yeah, that's all much of that is shit. How many times? Oh, yeah. Disney.

I was forced to kiss a laden. Do you rip? Well, I'd go give that laden a kiss.

“So give a laden a kiss? Yeah. Why did you have to go give a laden a kiss?”

And everybody. Don't give a lad, go tell, go tell a laden you love him.

I was always, he, I was, I kissed me.

He's amazing. Well, that's, that, that's me needs a kiss. A playful kisser. I love you. No, no, a generous lover. It's the same. Me and no, no, no. That gets later. One of those girls from Otley told her story. And it was just as harrying as you could imagine. That night, Jimmy applied the girls with Vaca, but stayed sober himself as he always did.

Then he quote unquote, "try it on with each girl in the tent." Now, this woman refused to elaborate as to what tried it on, man. But she did call Savo a disgusting old man and a pervert. In addition, a group of boys from the local rugby club shot out Savo's lamps at the campsite with air rifles. So Jimmy lost it and got into an actual physical altercation with the bunch of teenagers. He's about 39-40 at this point. As the witness put it, Savo was violent that night,

really nasty when he turned scary. And this amongst all the other stories we told is why we're pretty sure that Jimmy Savo probably killed someone at some point in his life. And his defense, a bunch of rugby teenagers, I mean, you just want a fight up. I mean, yeah, I'm a rugby club just doesn't spy or violent. Yeah, we need a four-year-old man. Trying to attack me, well, I'm trying to have sex with these little girls in my van.

“And you interrupt me? Getting a fucking show at you. That's what that's hurting.”

It's a scruffy thing to do. I don't know where I'm going on. Are the ones who groom these children? Not concerning murder. Jimmy Savo may have simply gone too far on occasion in an accidentally killed someone. He may have ordered one of his many guns to kill someone who is inconvenient. Or he may have just tried it on once or twice just to see what it felt like. At the very least,

we do know that he is responsible for many deaths by suicide that came as a result of his actions. But as far as why he didn't cross the line into serial killing, I think it's because disposing of a body was far too much of a hassle. It's a guaranteed investigation. And Savo's guiding principle, remember, was to only do what he knew he could get away with.

“But more than anything, I think Savo was sort of like David Parker Ray, the toy box killer.”

While Ray certainly committed a lot of murders, he also let a lot of women go. Because he, like Jimmy Savo, got a charge out of knowing that his victims had to live with what he had done. I think Jimmy Savo reveled in the trauma he caused, just like he relished the memory of finding the severed hand after the Nazi bombing raid he survived when he was a young boy. Well, you know, he was main concern was rape. And I think that he got enough of it to not have to

worry about covering up his crimes, like in a way. I think that he, I think if he killed somebody he killed another man, I think he probably killed another man or child or child accidentally. Because I actually think that weirdly he's, he's too much of, um, and this is horrific statement.

I think he's legitimately, uh, he would want his goons to do it.

Yeah, he had people to do it for. I would like to do it. Old Jim the pill, whatever the fuck Jim the

“pill did. Yeah. Bad. Yeah. I think that it's likely he murdered a child and during one of those,”

you know, those, you know, the rings that he was in in the 90s and the 60s like, yeah, they didn't just let those kids go. No, they did not know. Now, Jimmy Savile had learned by this point. The people would let him do whatever he wanted just so long as he was able to claim that it was all for charity. And so, Jimmy Savile began demanding tours of local hospitals when he attended an event, or when he was taking a segment for his BBC radio one show, Savile's travels. See Jimmy Savile had

discovered during his work at the lead's general infirmary that hospitals could provide him with a captive audience and a vulnerable victim pool. But this wasn't the only reason behind his tactical evolution. See by the mid to late 60s, Jimmy's age was starting to show. Savile hit 40 years old in 1966 and his act wasn't quite as cute as it had once been in the eyes of many teenage girls. Yeah, because he's a fucking ghoul. Yeah. So to continue fulfilling his twisted desires,

he pivoted to environments where his victims were confined to a bed, completely captive, or easily manipulated. And so by the end of the 60s, Jimmy Savile had crafted an image of himself as a champion for the second disabled, the consummate volunteer. Savile, the social worker they called him. He was a role model for Brits, young and old. But in reality, Jimmy Savile was as one former victim put it simply positioning himself to use the UK's national health service,

hospitals and facilities as his own personal pedophile sweet chops. Gross Marcus. I didn't say it. I didn't say it. I didn't say it. I didn't. I didn't

originate. I never heard pedophile sweet chops before. One of his former victims said it.

Oh, okay. I just said that. Honestly, one former victim put it that way. Coming at sweet chops hard. Okay. And let's say it's not just pedophile. Sometimes it's big fat guys. Yeah. We like sweet chops. I love sweet chops. Is this getting you guys loves sweet chops? I know you do. I know you do. This puts like a whole new meaning to you can't have your pudding until you have your meat. Yeah. I have your pudding to have your mate. That's fucking

“now I'm like turned. I'm very upset. Yeah. Hey, did you yourself? Do you think that that's what”

they were talking about? No. Um, maybe, you know, putting being, putting is a different in um, putting is different in UK. Yeah. Putting is a steam dessert. Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot who I was with. It's not a com allegory in UK. It's a it's more cakeish. It's a cake. It's a steamed bun. Yeah. Well, now I want some. Yeah, that's what I turned right back on. Next time, next time we go to England if they allow us in, we'll take you out for a great pudding. Oh, wow.

Toffee. We'll get you some toffee, a toffee pudding. Toffee pudding? You're doing a love it. You'll like it. Now while great Britain's NHS is largely funded from taxation and gives universal healthcare to every citizen charitable fundraising to support the health services is a long and treasured British tradition. NHS fundraising covers things like amenities for patients and staff, medical research and the renovation and improvement of facilities. Jimmy Savald became a master

at all three categories and his fundraising ranged from prizes for NHS staff at social events to the construction of entire buildings. So once the hospital saw Jimmy Savald's value, he quickly built up goodwill. He'd start by pushing old ladies around in wheelchairs, making jokes and being cheeky. But before long, Jimmy Savald would find himself in operating theaters, witnessing open heart surgeries as a guest of honor. But Jimmy's real purpose was to

establish himself as such a constant presence that people would forget he was even there. And once he made himself a regular, he found that he could get away with damn near anything. Such it was determined that while Savald was supposedly devoting his time and energy to helping people at NHS facilities, he sexually abused patients and staff at 34 hospitals, five mental health units, two children's hospitals, one ambulance service, one children's convalescent home,

and even a fucking hospice. Savald's a horny guy. Now this is what I find interesting too is that

“of all of the places that you'd want because I think that's kind of a lot of what the sentiment”

was about Jimmy Savald when he first started being like literally openly obsessed with coming to

the hospital where they were all like, this is not like while we do where best to make this a nice

dealing with sick kids, we're dealing with really sad stuff, we're dealing with something that's not cute, right? We're dealing with all these things and his insistence on showing up again and again, made them all be like, it was more like a, it was like, oh, thanks, Jimmy, it was like a, oh, okay,

“Jimmy, if that's what you want, yeah, we can get you a room. But that was the people at the hospital.”

Yeah, outside of the hospital, when people saw that, the people thought, oh my God,

this place that I would never in a million years go, he likes it. He loves going there.

That's the same as thinking, Bill, but Barry Manlow's not gay. They're a man like nobody wants to go, like, yes, it's wonderful what he's doing. Nobody wants to go to a children's hospital. Yeah, and to be there constantly all the time. And I think that was also a little bit of transfer with the British people where it's like, well, I don't have to feel guilty about not helping these people out because Jimmy savils doing it for me. He's doing it for me. So it makes me feel good.

Man, I can't believe we want the hospices. That's fucking crazy. Yeah, man, those chicks are gross. The bands, that was in there. Yeah, I don't know. That's what you're talking. I heard at the end of

this tour, Baby Spice is going to have to change your name to hospice by leaving the game.

Save it in the room. Hospice. Hospice. Hospice. Hospice. Hospice.

“Hospice. Hospice. So that's a different spice. But again, I think it's nice when everyone's”

consentual and you have big-titted nurses that are trained and you and a handsome nurses that are trained for people that are consenting to be around handsome and big-titted nurses at the end of their life. And I think that my host, Pice, is going to change the whole end of life. What is the minimum exercise to be employed by host Pice? See, five inches as a man. Really? Yeah, five with a C. I would get say, well, like a five and a half, six,

trying to kind of open it up to try to make you more guys in there. Okay, really. All right. Yeah. Now, what Savel gained the trust of a hospital or a facility, he was often given keys. So he could

come and go as he please, because Jimmy Savel is a busy man. You never know when Jimmy Savel is

going to show up. And in some cases, he was even given private quarters on the site, quarters, rooms that he kept for decades. I don't know, they had quarters in England. It's private rooms. Okay. He's over there in the call of the boot. He's on 50 P, 25 P, they call it P. Hi, too. Thank you. But all NHS institutions that Savel be fouled, there were three that could be considered his favorites. And interviews Savel often said that he

got so much enjoyment from these institutes that he should actually be paying them to allow him in. He did. These institutes. Yeah. Yeah. These institutes were the donecroft approved school for girls. The Stoke Mandiveville National Center for spinal injuries in the infamous high security mental facility known as broadmore hospital. Oh, all these destination. These vacation destinations. Yeah. And the halls of these institutions.

Jimmy Savel found the most vulnerable, thosile, and malleable people in England. And he abused them for decades. I feel like this is really where we're going to see the heart of why he made it to the Mount Rushmore of evil. This is it. Yeah. Now to get the full scope of Jimmy Savel's crimes. Let's go through these institutions one by one.

“Starting with a frequent subject here on last podcast. I think it's the facility we've”

spoken about the most, broadmore hospital. It's like Arkham Asylum, but with Mashi P. The built in 1868 as a criminal lunatic asylum, broadmore is a 53 acre facility built on a ridge overlooking the countryside in Berkshire. In 1949, it's control was transferred to the Department of Health, who redesigned it as a special hospital that treated patients with mental illness and/or dangerous violent or criminal behavior. In other words, not everyone in broadmore's

dangerous, but many patients were and are. The facility was overcrowded, understood, and run like a prison until 1957, when a doctor came in to modernize broadmore, a little over 10 years later, Jimmy Savel showed up on broadmore's doorstep, offering to help improve conditions and improve the facility's image. Now, Savel was drawn to broadmore by a patient in 1968. A guy sent Jimmy Savel a fan letter containing a Brazil nut set on a wooden plaque, inscribed with the words,

from the patient asking Savel if he'd hold an event at broadmore hospital. If he did, the patient said

“he would make Savel an honorary member of the broadmore nutters club. This is actually a real club,”

organized by broadmore patients. So, Savel wrote back saying, "He'd be happy too." Is it broadmore's nutters club a bunch of like serial rapists murderers? Not all of them, no. Oh, good. No, there's a part of the hospital. Yes, is serial murders rapists in a pedophile. All could just matter of the worst-worse villain. The worst-villains history. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like, you know, the West, you know, your Rose West, I believe was a broadmore, oh yeah. Myra Henley,

Peter, Peter, Sutcliffe will talk about Henley episode definitely. But yeah, I thought they got to be friends. Yes. We'll talk about that next episode when we get into Jimmy Savel's adventures in the 80s. They were friends. Yes. I don't know who this is. The Yorkshire River. Yeah. Oh, sounds like you. Yeah, you. Yeah, because he's a fan of you. You repanced? Yeah. I think he was here big farther. Yeah. He was here for two years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, he killed girls. Yeah, about 14 or so. 14 year old girls are 14 girls.

14 year old. I believe one of them was pretty young. Yeah, interesting fact. The drummer from Georgia vision was actually a question as a possible suspect in the Yorkshire River case,

“because he drove a van that was very similar to Peter Sutcliffe's. That's why they're so sad.”

He was because that one guy couldn't stop dancing. Well, the event at broadmore.

Jimmy Savel's first event at broadmore. It was a huge success. Oh, and because Jimmy always had an

instinct for opportunity, he immediately asked if he could stay later on in the evening to entertain the staff. And Jimmy Savel ended up sleeping on the premises. Which is just like just, it's just like, you're going to go and you like broadmore. Yeah, you know, the mental hospital and Jimmy. Well, I mean, there are some people who truly do enjoy this type of work. But it's work, but to like, be like, oh, I'm staying overnight. Yeah, I mean, like, oh, we're having a sleep over y'all. Like, yeah,

it's a lot. Well, Jimmy established himself in broadmore, literally overnight. And he quickly got to the business of turning broadmore into one of his many sexual playgrounds where he would

abuse the mentally ill for his own pleasure. Masavo was soon bestowed the title of honorary

assistant entertainments officer at broadmore. And he was given unrestricted access to ward areas, even within the secure perimeter. He had all the same access as the head of the facility. Savel established a regular presence at broadmore by putting on concerts or disco nights, every Thursday evening. And he was allowed unrestricted and unsupervised access to chat with whatever patient he wanted anytime he wanted to do so. On the days that he would film an episode

of Top of the Pops, Savel would immediately drive to broadmore after the taping. And in broadmore in the TV room, he would watch the episode with broadmore psychiatric patients. Sometimes he'd even bring guests from Top of the Pops with them or dancers from the show. It's one time the popular go-go group pans people. He brought them to broadmore once. Pans people extraordinarily popular their Wikipedia page is so incredibly long. It's insane. How much information there is about

pans people out there. All female dance true. Famous for their residency on the Pops, they were just, oh they were hot chicks. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like taking the Dallas Cowboys

“Chile to the mental hospital. Yeah, it's extremely long Wikipedia page. Why? Why is this so long?”

Because probably they have so many credits. Pretty people love them. Yeah, British people get really obsessed about things like this. I get it. Well once Savel established himself completely at broadmore, he began taking patients out for rides in his roles, Royce, where he would of course sexually assault them. Despite the fact that broadmore was a high security facility, Savel even snuck some of the younger patients out to see tapings of his TV shows. Those patients would of course

be assaulted at BBC Studios. He also had a specific ability, which I think goes with a lot of predators. Where they couldn't sniff out people that have been predated before. And that, that he, I think that's a lot of this too is the reason why he would also go into these spaces of people that have also either come from either have problems, come from institutionalized problems, come from family problems that he can do the thing where he can do the thing that pedophiles

and predators do and say, this is me loving you. Yes. Yeah, he knew how to do it. Yes. And also, he knew that he could just tell these patients like, we're not supposed to be doing this right now. We're not, you're not supposed to be outside of the facility. You're not supposed to,

they would also be telling on themselves. Not just that when they get back, the other patients

“there are be like, oh, you're so lucky for going. Perhaps. I got to say, I do wish I could have been”

driving when I was doing it, not not test the cars that didn't come out yet with the self-driving option. The travel had total access to broad more from 1968 until 2004. And while the Department of Health found only 11 allegations of sexual abuse reported by patients. Only 11. Only 11. But between 1968 and 2004, I mean, the real number is certainly triple, quadruple hundreds of times. Yeah. Sometimes it is like literally he was doing it for decades

with impunity as a group. Yeah. They wouldn't write it down when people would complain. Yeah. But for Saval, broad more wasn't just about his own physical gratification. He was also learning, teaching and commiserating with other men who shared his predilections. According to a psychiatric nurse who worked at broad more for 30 years, the pedophile patients gravitated towards Jimmy Saval

“whenever he was there. And they often had long private conversations. It's almost like they had”

workshops. Yeah. He like could begin. This is a thing that happens with pedophiles. Yes, happen. They just they sense it. And they get together. And they they strategize. And then this is a thing that like they all said this is that they would find him. They'd be a Jimmy Saval with go missing. Famous coming. Famous man in the world. And he's hanging out with a bunch of pedophiles around and in a circle, holding court and talking to all them seriously. Like talking to them

closer than he would talk to the the patients and close to the staff. Yeah. And they're all like like, but they don't go like, no, actually, nothing. Wouldn't like the staff knew there was something wrong with them. Yeah. I mean, how could you not? Yeah. Like the the nurse that told that story, they said that they long considered Jimmy Saval as did many of his colleagues to be a man with a severe personality disorder and a man who had an obvious liking for children. But because

Saval had charmed the administration and because he was good press, no restrictions were ever put on Saval's visits. Because that's the thing. Saval's, he wasn't just assaulting patients. He was assaulting staff in these hospitals as well. Whenever whatever he could get away with and the

administration was always turning a blind eye. He's raising millions of the 60s and 70s for

these places. Well, the thing is is that once he's in, right, then he can do really whatever the fuck he wants because if they start coming sniffing around and investigating, guess you get on the hook. Yeah, Jimmy Saval, the fucking hospital. Yeah. So it's like the hospital goes on the hook, which is the thing that they do like you gave him keys. Yeah. Everybody's fucked. Yeah. He is now coming. He is put polluted his place like a fucking cancer and now you can't get him out.

It's all about the complicity. Yeah. He implicates everyone there. Yeah. And because of that, his access was truly unlimited at broad more. Until the 1980s at this hospital, all female patients had to strip naked for their baths under staff supervision. Saval was not only invited to attend bath time, but he often did so while making inappropriate remarks about the patient's bodies. I guess he was allowed to be in there as long as he was in Rose mode. Yeah. Yeah. They're like,

"Well, why am I supposed to make it full with a picture of you?" That's fine. It's the ultrasonic. So did they bathe them close? No. No, they just don't make them undress in front of staff. Yeah. They don't wash them like a bunch of burn animals in front of them. Yeah. They just die. They cut,

“you know, they're trying. They're trying. No, Eddie. What did they do with all the hoses?”

Don't eat him to the local car wash. Yeah, dude. I hope they did. No. I hope they did. But perhaps even worse than Jimmy's exploits at broad more, which will explore further in the last episode. Yay! Was what Jimmy Saval got up to at broad more sister facility, Rampton psychiatric hospital. Patients at Rampton were all mentally disabled or in Jimmy Saval's parlance subnormal. These patients were naturally drawn to Saval's clownish appearance and demeanor.

And while none of these patients reported abuse, I mean, most of them didn't even have the ability to express that they had suffered abuse. Several of the staff at Rampton confirmed that Saval had unlimited unsupervised access to Rampton patients four decades. Now, as it praying

on the mentally ill and the mentally disabled wasn't bad enough, it's not the second. I'm still

on Jimmy's side. Yeah, this is not going to be what we're going to be. Well, we're going to need to ramp the second of Jimmy's three favorite facilities was the National Spinal injury center

In investigations found that Saval abused at least 63 people connected to Stoke Mandeville

“over the decades he spent there, although the real number again is certainly far, far, far higher.”

Saval warmed his way into Stoke Mandeville in 1968 while making an episode of Saval's travels. And even before he began taping the episode, he digitally penetrated a young patients vagina after asking her to come sit in his lap. He got away with it, so Saval knew that he had found another playground. Stoke Mandeville is where Saval infamously volunteered as an overnight porter transporting both the living and the dead in the middle of the night when no one else was

watching. According to Saval's staff, Saval was creepy and particularly loved taking bodies to the

mortuary. Here, of course, is where we get into the Necrophilia. Oh, yeah, we do. Now, Jimmy Saval

gave an interview in the early 70s in which he revealed why he loved working at hospitals and specifically why he loved working at the morgue. He said that he had an aptitude for dead people that when he was holding somebody that just died, he was filled with tremendous love. Apparently, the person doing the interview didn't ask him why the fuck he was holding dead bodies.

“Yeah, how often are we holding this dead body? Like, how often is this happening with the scenario?”

When he's happening, does that do the families know that you're holding these dead bodies? Not usually just grab out of them.

When I'm dealing with bodies, normally it's with pitchforks and normally I'm kind of in the middle

of like a cleaning up a war like situation. So normally when I'm handling dead bodies, I'm like, when is it going to be 5 p.m.? Yeah, I just like the lift and drop. You know, yes, lift up the hand, let it pop down, lift up the hand, let it pop down again. Do you know that the BBC, they only have, they have, this is the official count of victims from the BBC. It is 2014, 2014 and that the official count, the official count and that's across every,

that's at the BBC, that's all the hospital. The court, that is, that is mentioned accusations. Wow, that is reported accusations. Damn. Well, Saval said that he was filled with envy when he was around a dead body because the dead had left behind all the problems. If somebody were to tell him tonight that he wouldn't wake up the next morning, he said, it would fill him with tremendous joy. At times he claimed that he couldn't wait to die. And that's, for me,

that's it's such an interesting, it's such an interesting statement because it almost says that it's on some level he knew that he was a monster. He knew that like the world is going to be a better place when I'm not hearing more. But he also believed that in a way, he was better than the rest of society. But you're seeing here as a true narcissist. And he also died with a smile on his face. Yes. And he, because I think that this is the same connect. I feel that these are all the same

as a multimillionaire living in an RV on purpose. He has no physical possessions. He's clothing is one thing, right? They would say he had clothing and he would get these types of apartments throughout life. But he was obsessed with appearing as this sort of like, I'm just a humdrum, man of the people that just washes his underwear in the sink each night and don't bring multiple pieces of underwear. He would wash his underwear each night when he would go away when he

travel. He wouldn't bring any clothes. He would stink. He would do this whole thing fun and disgusting. And these things are all things I think that are connected. Yeah, weirdly enough because it's fake. It's this fake because in his mind, my call here is that when he's in the RV,

“he's like, I know life so much better than everybody else. And I know that all life is about”

his rape and money. And that's what I do. Yeah. And these guys are all losers for having families and lives and thoughts and emotion. Everybody else is a fucking loser. Yeah. We all know that no British people ever thought like that. No, no. Except for deer, deer, deer, sweet intro, deer, sweet, sweet, princess. But as far as what Salville really did with the dead, a fellow BBC radio 1 DJ named Paul Gambitini claimed that Salville regularly visited

hospital mortuary to satiate his necrophilic urges in addition to the abuse he was committing on the disabled and the sick. Because remember, like Salville is an overnight porter. He's transporting paralyzed people from room to room and he's alone with them much of a time. And he would get he would run to go get the to take the bodies down to the morgue and eventually they were like,

you can do it. Yeah. He was insisting and doing it. And then he also said that there was nothing

like, like, he would go, he would joke about playing with the bodies as soon as they were like, well, they were still warm. Yeah. And I think that that is exactly what he did. Yeah. I think that he brought him down there and I think he'd get like, say, he gave a couple, couple of hogs and licks. Like literally he put grandma down and he went, huh, huh, huh, huh. Like, look, it's supposed to

“be a little bit. And then was like, ah, you know, that's how they start the entire show. Really?”

Yeah, it's just like him, like hanging around the morgue too often. Yeah. That's how they start. That's how they kick off the entire thing. That's great. There's a lot of things we've covered on last podcast on the left. We're like, oh, there's some exaggerations here. Oh, you know, we don't want, you can take this with a grain of salt. I think that Jimmy Savel, like what we've saying before, he's guilty of way more crimes than what's on the fucking paper. Yeah. Yeah. We have no

idea. And I think that he absolutely was a necrophilia. Necrophilia was not illegal in the UK until 2003, specifically as a crime. They viewed. They said that to necrophilia was like,

it had never been prosecuted ever in the UK before. So when this stuff was coming up,

with Jimmy Savel, after the fact that every died, and they were talking about necrophilia,

“they legitimately were like, yeah, sure we have it on the docs and stuff. But necrophilia,”

essentially, doesn't happen in the UK. And I would argue, it happens they're the most. Yeah. It was there in the fucking moment because they're also pale. They look dead when they're different. I mean, I'm not going to start looking dead for like four days. Yeah, yeah. I feel like these guys are like, they just, it's itky. It was an itky crime. And they didn't want to think another example of like, there is no way Jimmy Savel also was a necrophilia.

What's the thing? Is it this BBC radio 1 DJ? He said that he convinced himself at the time that none of this was actually happening. The necrophilia wasn't actually happening, because he just he truly said he didn't want to think about how gross it was. Why are the living fuck would he be in the morgue? Yeah. Why would he be going to the morgue? Every single thing he did was about fucking something. Yes. So Savel continued satisfying his urges in increasingly disturbing ways

by taking full advantage of good old fashioned British squeamishness. A concerning the living, one of Savel's victims at Stokeman developed was a 13-year-old girl named Caroline from Glasgow, who was a costed in the middle of one of Jimmy's many fundraising drives at the hospital. And I think this incident tells you so much about Jimmy Savel. Tragedically, Caroline had been paralyzed from the nec down after a car accident that occurred

which she was very young. So Stokeman developed handled her care. This also is unfortunately what made her a target for Jimmy Savel's almost casual abuse. Caroline said that she was lying in her bed when Savel suddenly took her face in his hands, rammed his tongue down her throat, then walked away as if nothing happened. Caroline did indeed tell her family, "Hey, Jimmy Savel stuck his tongue down my throat, but nobody believed her because nobody could

accept that Jimmy Savel of all people had done something so horrible." But that's how casual it's because I know him. That's casual. That's uncensored. It's so casual. I thought he thought it was a joke.

“Not even. It's just, that's what he does to people. It's like, "Oh, you're lady there, right?”

You're laying in here. You lay in it. It's a 13-year-old girl." That's in his head, right? The Jimmy's brain. You want to, you want to fuck me. Oh, you guys want to fuck me, even though he's talking to Invalid's in 13-year-old. He's walking around like he's Justin Bieber acting like this is all like, "You guys are all my fans and not people that are legitimately like bad dead, but bound." That's their example, Justin Bieber.

"I feel a house. I guess you got a house. Who else? Who's the new guy, Paul Enka?" "I feel like he thought that when he was abusing these people, like in his fucked up mind, that he was like doing them a favor." Well, yeah, he will know it's that day where they should

be so lucky that he's there in the first place. You're lucky because I'm setting all this up.

I'm going to do whatever I want to you because you're as good as dead anyway." Now, I'll stoke Man DeVille and Broadway more, certainly provided Savile with a lot of victims. There was no institution more plentiful, nor more willing to give Savile access than the done-croft approved school for girls. And again, it's insane that people let a man,

Yeah, but Savile was considered for years to be a friend, an important patron to this institute.

“All while he abused countless girls inside and outside its walls.”

Well, this was a very specific facility too because this is like, this isn't the other, like the other ones were obviously between the invulids and the fucking people at Ospets and dead man. People spinal injuries facilities. Yes, but those were like legitimately bedbound patients. These are girls that have been sent here by moneyed people. Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm founded in 1948 as an experiment in which psychotherapy was used to

correct behavioral defects and girls placed in its care, which means cigarette smoking, kissing other girls, kissing a boy before they're married. And anything you just want to

ship a girl away for because you don't like what she's doing in front of you. Yeah, on stuff.

Yeah, done-croft started as something of a mix between a halfway house and a state prison for teenage girls, owing to the British style of parenting that often left childrearing to institutions like boarding schools. It was thought that it would be better if vulnerable damaged girls were looked after by the state. And Dunkroft was considered to be the cutting edge of these types of so-called approved schools. There was not, however, any indication that Dunkroft

was anything but a punishment because the facility was surrounded by eight foot tall walls, which gave the whole facility a minimum security prison vibe. Now, Dunkroft was a relatively small institution out of the 300-girls sent to special schools in England each year, only 12 went to Dunkroft because Dunkroft was reserved for the upper crust. These were the daughters of ambassadors, surgeons, BBC executives. But none of these girls were sent to Dunkroft

for anything violent. Most were merely inconvenient, or troublesome. Most were so-called bad girls. Were the boys aren't? Yeah, who said- They were sent to Dunkroft for running away from home, using drugs, having eating disorders, engaging in underage sex. In other words, these were girls who wanted to act older than their age. And that made them prime targets for a master

“manipulator like Jimmy Savall. Because that's what Jimmy Savall's game is at Dunkroft.”

It's manipulation. Well, now it's almost the, well, these girls, they kind of deserve it. No, no, this is Jimmy Savall. That is his thinking. Yeah. Now, the headmistress at Dunkroft was a woman named Margaret Jones, who often threw garden parties at the Institute and liked to use the upper class connections of the Dunkroft girls to bring her closer to celebrity in fame. Yeah, this was a star fucker. She was a star fucker. Defined. A string of minor royals and

British actors none of us have ever heard of. Oh, what do you mean, like, Dundal B. Bubblebutt? No, no, no, I love Harry Potter and Gendalman. I love these guys. He played the T-pop, the T-pop goes to the Big Ben. Comedy and love British people. Yeah. It's like Brian Broncroft. And it's such a no idea. Another dead guy. Yeah. But these people were paraded through Dunkroft during the years,

Margaret Jones ran the place. So when Jimmy Savall rolled up in his trademark Rolls Royce, he was simply another celebrity from Margaret to add to her collection. Later, Jones would claim that she was hoodwinked by Jimmy Savall, defending herself by saying, "Nobody ever complained about Jimmy Savall? Why would I even ask questions?" He was letting so many other places. It's Jimmy Savall. But from what it seems like, no, the guy's a fucking creep and he looks like it. Yeah. He's not

literally the creep, he's a fucker on the face, the fucking programming. From what it seems like, Savall simply slaughtered himself into Dunkroft's established systems. In Margaret Jones, either wasn't paying attention or she was too dazzled by Jimmy's celebrity status to care about

what he was doing. So the girls at Dunkroft were basically controlled by cigarettes and records,

which doesn't sound like it would work, but I will admit that it's certain times in my life the only things that mattered to me in this entire world were cigarettes and records. And I would have done almost anything to get more of both. Now it's Nick and Jean-Gam and Records. Well, Monopatch now. He's got three patches. He's got someone to speak. It's only been like six years. Yeah. No, he's cleared. You know what it is, too. There's

nothing to do all day. It's prison rules. It's prison rules because that's like, you know, when you're in prison, that's the stuff you play for. You play for cigarettes, you play for

“sweet low packets and shit that's what you're doing. Well, it's not just, but it's addiction.”

But they use the addiction to control these. It's using addiction and joy. You know, as far as

their days revolved around cleaning the facility and working in the kitchen. And if they were well

behaved into all their assignments, they got 40 cigarettes a week that they could smoke in the common's room while listening to records. That's fun. But if the girls were ill-tempered or didn't do their work, their cigarettes were taken away and they would be sentenced to solitary confinement in a silent padded room for an indeterminate amount of time. You know, it's like that shit that you hear all the time, like people are like wrongly imprisoned. They start to like become like what

people assume they are. Oh, sure. You know, and it's like that. Oh, yeah, of course. You know,

“oh, no, they're being told. They're bad kids. Yeah, bad teenagers. So now like that's why I think they're”

unfortunately like the perfect victims for Jimmy's apple. Yeah. When Jimmy's apples showed up at Dungcroft in 1974, he immediately saw how to take advantage of this situation. He would arrive with arm loads of candy, records, and cigarettes. The currency of Dungcroft. And he would be greeted by a posse of girls every time he showed up in his roles' voice. Like the patients that brought more, Savo would take these girls out for rides in his roles' voice for sexual abuse and rape.

But it was actually a former Dungcroft girl who became the first person to come forward

about Jimmy Savo's crimes, although this girl did so in a clandestine way. Her name was Cat Ward, and it was the online memoir that she wrote prior to Jimmy Savo's death that set reporters on the trail that led them to discover Savo's massive web of evil, although Cat only referred to Savo as J. S. Now Ward said that when Savo took her out on drives in his roles' voice, just like he did with dozens of other girls, Savo would grow per. He would then promise cigarettes,

records, and trips to the BBC. In an exchange, he demanded oral sex. When Cat finally did it, she gagged on his ejaculate, and as she was gagging, Savo leaned over to open her corridor as if it was a routine he was well used to, saying, "Not in the cod, not in the cod, almost impatiently." This treatment, favors like cigarettes or trips to tapings and exchange for oral sex, came to be known as Jimmy Specials, and they were so common that Jimmy Specials

came to be a known phrase around the BBC. But if a girl didn't care about cigarettes or records, Jimmy had a far more insidious tactic. He'd tell the girl that if she didn't give a Jimmy Special, he'd tell all the other girls that the one who'd refused had quote ruined it for everyone, thus threatening total social exclusion. So he knew how to get him no matter what, like he knew how to manipulate him. Oh, yeah, very much so. No matter what.

And Cat Ward, and to your point earlier, Cat Ward said that Jimmy Savo was the third man who

abused her before she was 18 years old. Yes, and I also think that the reason why she even had the agency to even speak about it is because she actually came from some form of money,

“had some kind of like social backing. That's how she could even kind of even talk about it.”

Yeah. Well, they talk about it in the, I think it was in the book in plain sight. You know, they talk about how, at the time, it would have sounded ridiculous. And so that it was, she would have sounded absolutely insane to say that Jimmy Savo had done this. But it was when, and even like online, when someone like when a reporter would read it, they'd like, would read it and be like, this doesn't make any sense. Like, what did like Jimmy Savo,

what are you talking about? And they would make him the biggest villain in UK history, you know, like, but then they started putting things together. You know, they started putting these little that, like, all of these things together and realize, like, oh, no, the story is fucking true. Also, with his full access to these places, he's going around. He's talking to the staffers that like, what's wrong with this girl? What's her past life? Oh, yeah. Oh, no, no, no,

she was fucked by four dudes and be like, oh, okay, that's a good target for me. I mean, I don't think the nurse should be that Cavalier. I'm sorry. All right. Well, while Savo was obviously a monster, he did have somewhat of a girlfriend that he picked up, Lee's general infirmary in 1968. He had to eventually. Yeah. Well, I mean, but she was also a

“complete and total secret. It was always a secret. Her name was Sue Hems, and she was 17 when the”

middle-aged Jimmy Savo began the closest thing he ever had to a relationship. According to Hems, over the course of a few months, Savo would take her to cheap hotels for sex or various events with celebrities, like when he took her to a photo shoot where Prince Charles was in attendance. Savo had his hand up the teenage girl skirt the whole time. And apparently, the man who is now King of England thought that Savo's antics were hilarious. But strangely, the friendship

season of the crown, now available on Netflix. Wow. Well, I also think that she was just,

“let's say he was experimenting with, like, maybe I could have, uh, somebody. Maybe,”

yeah, and could have somebody. Maybe there's like maybe there's a thing here where Jimmy Savo has a wife. And they had a, ham and Sue Hems had a weird relationship. She, like, moved to Munich and, like, 1970, uh, she got married in, like, 73, 74. Yeah, they, like, she, he, like, like, like, the lesser, right? Like, as a kid. And then they got back together. Well, uh, she got married and then she got divorced and, like, 1991. And then they started dating again.

But of course, he treated her, like, shit the whole time. He would tell people, like, oh, she's a homeless woman that I found. I found her at a shelter. Uh, and they just, but they would continue to see each other. Uh, but she was one of those people, like, that was just Jimmy's way. Yeah, if she's the different type of beard. Well, she's a, she's an enabler. And, uh, I probably go as far as to stay. I wouldn't call her in an enabler. No, I wouldn't say because it, she's just also a victim.

Yes, she's also both, but then I think the, unfortunately, sometimes victims become enablers. Unfortunately, it's one of the worst parts about this type of shit is that you can convince somebody. You can rape them. Then convince them. Oh, that was back in the day. It's over.

Now I'm having you here. You then help me. Always having you in the room helps me every time.

That's why just laying was there. Yeah. But he was in the same position. They didn't go like, sue him. He was just like, he never told anyone. This is my girlfriend. No, he would just have her around and he would insult her anytime someone asked who is this person.

“I think that's what he liked to do. Yeah. Also, I think just laying was there because”

was also good with spreadsheets. Yes, you're right. He was, as I've seen, wasn't that organized. So we saw those emails. Now, since Jimmy Savl had developed such a stellar reputation as a philanthropist and a broadcaster by the end of the 1970s, the BBC gave him yet another show,

Speakeasy, which was the first chat show ever aired on BBC Radio 1. Over the course of this

hour-long program, Savl would talk about what he thought really mattered to the teenagers of the day, which was his area of expertise since he was indeed England's oldest teenager. You. But according to a researcher that worked on the show, a stream of underage girls flowed into Savl's caravan, which was parked just outside a BBC reception during Speakeasy Tafings. Additionally, the co-producer of religious broadcasting at the BBC, Reverend John Lang,

“fully supported Jimmy Savl's access to kids. Marcus, please. Because Jimmy Savl had also”

done a lot of work with the Catholic Church. I will not say you want to talk about the BBC Tafings. You want to talk about Brad Morse School 5. You got for the cap. You got for my church. It's a greatest church in all the life of a man. And don't forget, everyone is only four or five more J.K. Ultra Shows the left. And as far as I want to, that Tulsa's.

Now, since Jimmy Savl seemingly couldn't miss when it came to entertainment, the government hired him to be a spokesperson for a massive campaign in the early 1970s, encouraging Brits to wear seatbelts and cars. This resulted in a BBC series called "Clunk Click," which ran for eight weeks and became a surprise smash hit. We just started doing stuff in the wrong time period. I got a whole show about seatbelts.

Well, "Clunk Click" was so successful that Jimmy Savl's name became synonymous with the phrase, "Clunk Click," and "Clunk Click," every trip. The clunk is closing the clunk. "Clunk Click" is put in the seatbelth. And PSA's on the clunk was punched in your wife. "Clunk Click" was "Clunk Click." Loading the glass of the American. That replaced "Click it and tick it."

PSA's featuring Savl were just as insane and violent as what we've come to expect from all PSA's outside of America. I don't know what it is about the British and the Australians and the New Zealanders, but man, you guys do PSA's right. "Clunk Click" is a good brutal. "Clunk Click" is just watch where the guy gets his face sprayed by the steam and then he cuts back and it's like, "Ah, it's like faces melting." "Oh yeah, oh yeah, steam y'all." "Stay games not just football balls."

But the reason why we bring up "Clunk Click," it's not just because it's really fucking stupid.

room. "Clunk Click" was a cool click. "Oh no, we're the clunk Click." "Dude, you're not hot dog!"

"You're the clunk click, man." "Oh, you can eat buffet?" "Yeah, man." Sadly, I think they would be completely safe from showing me something. "Want done, you want to take Austin and Rolls Rose?" "I just love it. You know, all you can eat is easily my favorite song from Crash Grove. "Oh wow, oh you can eat." "Oh song by the fat boys about them going to Sparrow." "Yeah." "And we just wrap about how much they love to eat and how much they're in a great it is to Sparrow as all you can eat buffet." "We used to be a country."

But the reason why we bring up "Clunk Click" is because one episode featured the great beast of glam, the terror of Vietnam, the man who soundtrack almost every sporting event in the western

world for decades on in, I'm speaking, of course, about Gary Glitter. Now, while Gary Glitter is

known in America for just one song, it's unfortunately great. "Yeah, it really is." "It makes me want to

“have sex with a child." "I love that song." Actually, that's how I got into my first band”

as being my cousin, we're really high and just one night, you know, go, it started going, "Dop on our coffee, hey." "Dop on our coffee, hey." And then we had such fun, they were like, "We should start writing songs." And then we ended up being, and we started out as a bunch of free loaders. "You don't forget Gary Glitter's other big hit, do you want to touch?" "Yeah, do you want to touch?" "Yeah, do you want to touch?" "Yeah, do you want to touch?" And now, he was a massively

popular artist in the UK, during the 1970s. He was fucking huge. And he was also, as far as we know, the only musician that Jimmy Savel fully brought into his circle of evil. "Oh, good for Gary!" "Yeah." See, while Gary Glitter is better known for his 1997 arrest for child pornography, and the years long Odyssey of perversion across Southeast Asia that came afterward,

“he'd been abusing girls in the UK since at least the 1970s, often with Jimmy Savel,”

and often in plain sight. In one episode of "Clunk Click" for example, Gary Glitter was invited by Jimmy Savel to sit down between two teenage girls sitting on beambag chairs. Glitter settled between them and said, "Oh, get to!" And to this, Savel replied, "Yes, you get to, should be giving girls away." Savel and Glitter then proceeded to grip and embrace these girls on camera. All while the girls looked

obviously and incredibly uncomfortable. As it turned out, these girls were actually taken from donecroft, and they were there on the permission of the headmistress. Each girl had been offered cash to sit on the beambags with Gary and Jimmy, and that's a fucking pedophile duo if I ever heard one. Gary and Jimmy, you don't want to be tuned with that, too? If I was a pedophile,

“like, I'd be so nervous meeting them. You know, like, it's like one of those, or I'd be like,”

"Oh my god, they say never meet your heroes. I wonder what's going to be like meeting Gary and

fucking Jimmy. I wonder what they're going to be like. I hope that they like me." Well, a pair of Gary Glitter is about to die, finally in prison. Yeah, yeah, he's on his deathbed right now. Actually, is he in broad more? No, he's in now. He's just in one of the prisons. Yeah. Reportedly, Jimmy Savel gave the girls cash to be on camera with him and Gary, but he took the

cash back after the show's taping. And what was far worse, after Savel took back the cash, the girls were taken to Savel's dressing room where they were given alcohol and passed between Gary and Jimmy all on BBC property. Now, things were obviously getting, but just say, is it wrong that I'm like mad about the cash? Yeah. I was like, I was just like, it's really all the thing. Yeah, that's just the entertainer in you. Yeah, that's that is, you know, you just

know how, you know what that feels like. Yeah, man. Yeah. And the things were obviously getting, let's say, out of hand at the BBC. And while investigators got close to Jimmy Savel, they still miss the mark time after time. And that was often because the BBC would not let investigators get close to Jimmy Savel. When a 15-year-old dancer on top of the pops died by suicide for example, her diary revealed that she had not only been groomed by multiple BBC employees,

but it also been applied with drugs before having horrific sexual encounters with a certain BBC radio 1 DJ. What she wrote was so bad that people refused to print it. The suicide in the diary

the victims half-brother indeed confirmed that Savel was their man. Savel, of course, refused to cooperate in the investigation in any way whatsoever, because Jimmy Savel was also learning that when shit got serious, stonewalling was an extremely effective last line of defense. If you listen to any of it, like cops did eventually at one time talking to him,

did Trump do? No, no, no, no. That was always it and get mad about it. Never back down.

Never admit a fucking fault. No, never say I'm sorry. One time, if you say I'm sorry,

“once the whole thing comes down, that's how women get to brain damage. That's what he would”

do. Yeah. But while the investigation did reveal that exploitation of underage girls was happening at the BBC, no one was arrested and no changes were made to policy. In fact, the BBC invented stories to discredit the victim instead, making her seem unstable and willing to do anything to be famous. I think that was the diary where she talked about how he smelled. Yeah. That was the one thing about how this smell of him made her gag. That when he took

off his pants, the smell of his crotch was so overwhelming. Yeah. Well, and that was also a part of his

game. He wanted to make it as bad as possible. He knew that it was even more of a punishment. You know, it's so hard to be like, I wish you would have fucking just written his name, but that's also just an awful thing. It's a whole thing. It's hard. It's extremely fucking hard. You don't want your life destroyed. As a victim, you get your life destroyed. She committed suicide. Yes. And that's what happened. Yeah.

Now, Savile did make a statement in the wake of the dancer suicide, but it was only to say that the halls of the BBC were free of seductions, free of drug taking. Savile, however, also took the opportunity. And this was another one of Savile's big tricks to admit to a little wrong doing to distract from his far larger crime. Yeah, limited hangout. He would say, sure, he had sex with

lots of teenage girls, but he always made sure that they were above the age of 16. And he always

made sure he was checking ID. Oh, yeah. Well, the cops that are in the room at the time are checked in the room. Yeah. And he always made sure to visit the homes of these girls and become friends

“with the parents of the girls he had sex with. Like, you know, how that you guys remember that, right?”

Yes. Like, you know, when every time I hooked up with the girl, I would go and look for her family on social media. And I said a message to her mother or father and say, oh my god, I was just inside your daughter. Uh-huh. I wonder what you're like. Yeah. You know what? What's your deal? Yeah, what do you like Scotch? I don't know. Like anything like that. Like what's your like, what's your dream blonde rotation? Listen, I was just inside your daughter. My main question is,

what's your desert island album? And he was our age when he was doing this. Oh, I know. He was openly justifying this behavior to the press as a 43 44 year old man. And they just sat and chuckled. But in some cases, Savo was at least telling something of a half truth. According to one of Savo's drivers, Jimmy once took 16 age girls into his caravan and all six stayed the night. The next morning, one of the girl's parents were out waiting

outside the caravan for Jimmy. But Savo was able to charm the parents so easily with his fame and his oddly disarming manner that they invited him back to their home for breakfast. This is where good old fashioned American fucking real, like this is the only time I missed this. It would be like, you do this now, Obama. And you just getting the guy rolls up to get you out of the caravan. I can see something. I can see going another way. Actually, in Alabama, it's far more likely to go

“the house way. Yeah. Absolutely. And remember the whole the River Jeff Sessions. Remember that guy. He was the attorney general in Alabama.”

I'm in Texas growing up. Most of the girls that I went to high school with dated men in their 20s, 30. Sometimes they're 40s and it was seen as normal. Some of them married. I have those times. Desperate, Desperate, Desperate, Desperate, Desperate, Desperate, Desperate, Desperate, Desperate, Desperate. I won't say this. If happiness is what you want, the American South ain't the place to look for. You're right. Honestly, I forgot to tell you that. Well, this obfuscation, however,

was what Savo was best at. He would change the context of anything, saying that the girls were of legal age and that the parents knew and approved. And if he had done something truly awful, then surely the media would have reported it and ended his career by this point. He's literally doing the narcissist prayer. Yeah. By the 1970s, people felt like they knew Jimmy. He'd been such a presence on their TV and their radios that they couldn't bring themselves to suspect him

How would it sound like? Yeah. They were some sort of modern,

“comparison, seeking the subject, modern comparison could end in the deaths of all of us.”

Oh, I don't know. It's like a guy with crazy hair. Yeah. That was around younger. Oh, yeah. It's about he brags about how much he's raped. Yeah. Yeah. Really put himself in the positions where young girls were around. He's been a part of the fabric of media for 50 years and it's literally been named in almost like an every single piece of media for the last 30 years. We'll think of it. We'll think about it. Well, when you added all of that to his ever-present charity work that was

constantly being reported on the news, you know, Jimmy Savals added again. It was more than enough

for the British people to give free reign to the most dangerous sexual monster of the island ever produced. Now, Jimmy Saval was not the only person in a position of power who was getting away

“with crimes simply because the British people couldn't bear to face what was obviously happening”

right in front of them. See, during one of Jimmy's mini trips to rampant psychiatric hospitals, that's the one that treated them mentally disabled. Saval took 10 patients for a tour of the beaches and more importantly, the ice cream shops of Scarborough. Saval and his guests were welcomed by the Lord Mayor of Scarborough, Peter Jacanelli, who was another one of the United Kingdom's great sexual monsters. Now, Peter Jacanelli had lived in Yorkshire since the age of seven,

but while it was his dream to become an opera singer, he eventually became the 300-pound owner of a successful chain of ice cream shops and restaurants. That's the fucking dream, y'all. Yeah. Powerlight that new powerlight that new a mayor ship. Big fat guy, run a bunch of ice cream stores in your mayor? Yeah, it's fucking, I'm done. Such was to Anne, that's the thing. He also trained as an opera singer for a long time, so he has a party trick.

Well, such was Jacanelli's girth, that he actually earned a Guinness record for eating 512 oysters in 48 minutes. Stop making me like this guy. He literally is the wall or his mouth. He was just as massive and gross as he was dangerous, and he and Saval were close friends. This is where we're starting to see pedophile nodes meet. Like that's kind of like what I start to understand is that he's starting to meet other big fish that are in his game,

and because he's constantly traveling like he's not connected directly to any of them. Jimmy Savals, he's like the guy that shows up at the party every once in a while. Okay, Jimmy's in time. Yes. Yeah. On an ounce, he comes through. That's when shit pops off from with him, but then why have my own game over here? Jimmy had met Mayor Jacanelli during an episode of Savals Travels. When Jimmy covered a judo club that Jacanelli had founded in Scarborough,

this club attracted a lot of young boys, who later said that Jacanelli spent most of the judo sessions practicing groinholds on each and every student. And so between the ice cream shops in the judo, yeah, you know, I'm having a quiet nine seizure. So much quiet nine. Over between the ice cream shops in the judo, Mayor Jacanelli had access to a lot of young boys. And these young boys often attended something called the club, which was of course a front for sex parties

involving young kids of both sexes. Amongst the members of the club was Jimmy Saval and many others

of the same persuasion. Jacanelli was never arrested nor investigated, but like Saval,

his reputation as a predatory pedophile who prayed on local children. It only came out after his death in 1999. This was after he had served as Scarborough's mayor for 30 years. It's like

“if Pennywise was your mayor. Dude, I think that I'm Jimmy Saval is Pennywise. Yeah, he's Pennywise.”

Yeah, in my mind. When he died, I can't believe there's no Jimmy Saval ghosts. Yeah, as a man and a position of power, Jacanelli regularly made other politicians and police officers complicit in his crimes, and he therefore never faced investigations. Never mind all the clunk clicks that are over there trying to enjoy the fucking ice cream. Oh, these clunk clicks are there,

happy about that because no one thought this is all going to be about ice cream, but they're still in the

corner of the world. You're still in the corner of the world. Listen, you're getting too big for me to

“want to have fuck. Yeah. It's all you can eat. It's all you should eat. Come on, let's just say, I'm a bit”

of a clunk clicker. I don't have a kind of like it just goes right through. You're inviting the clunk click to the ice cream party. The clunk click finishes with the ice cream bug. Now you hear an over that chili Garcia before we set this fucking place on fire. All right. I'll fucking suck come out of Jimmy Saval and I'll spit it in your mouth if you don't give me that ice cream right the fuck up. Okay, I'm fucking I'm mayor of the clunk click. All the boys remember to run

the posters of ice cream. Nothing compared to the posters of the ice cream. Was it I know? We're not, we're not, we have no issues already. We're not wasting this morning. Orster for breakfast. Well, Jack and Ellie even with Jimmy Saval fed mentally disabled patients from ramped in hospital directly into Jack and Ellie's sexual meat grinder. Nothing happened. Nobody noticed. Now Jimmy Saval was effectively unstoppable by the 1970s, even though several

journalists reportedly had dirt on Saval sexual crimes. None of those reporters planned to publish because of Saval's popularity and because of the work he did for charity. No one was going to believe them. And then in 1973 Jimmy Saval got a massive amount of public sympathy when his mother,

the Duchess finally reached the end of her miserable fucking life. That was when Van Helsing finally

found them. Do you think she was cremated in a Duchess often? I'm from this league. Jimmy Saval did not leave her body for five entire days after her death. That's because he was inside of her. Yeah. Because they were fucking. Yeah. Is that what it was?

“That's what it was. And later he said the time he spent with his mother's corpse”

best five days of his life. To be honest, I think that we all talk about him like fucking her. I actually think he was like yelling at her, punching her into face and shit. No, this footage of it. He's just sitting there staring at her. Yeah. And she's she was left in repose in a Catholic church and he's just sitting there. Just he just stared at her. Was it five days? Was it he caught on camera apologizing to her for what he had done? I think so. Yeah, there's something like

he gave her lots of little kisses. Yeah. He said that she looked marvelous in her casket. That she belonged to him and him only during those five days. The death was a wonderful thing. Those are all direct quotes. You know, it's nice. You know how you want it. Where do you where do you want to bring your mother's corpse? Where do I want to bring it? Yeah, did you really relax with it? I don't want to bring it anywhere. I mean, I can't just do it at

the hospital. That's not relaxing. No, that's not relaxing. The church is not relaxing. No, it's really not. I don't know, man. I bring my mom the movie theater. That would be nice. Yeah, finally watch a movie. She's quiet. He's a little junior man. He's a little guy. You are like, oh, the guy. Later, when people brought up how disturbing his statements about his mother's death were in hindsight, Jimmy Savile changed his tune. He said not actually,

he waited five days to barrier because the ground was too frozen to dig a grave. Jimmy Savile, however, kept the Duchess's room exactly as it was for decades afterward. And he had her clothes dry clean once a year for the rest of his life. This, of course, puts

Savile in the same playpen as our dear Ed Geen. And yes, I do know that Jimmy Savile is never

proven to have killed anyone. But that's the third serial killer I have compared him to. Oh, yeah. And if a man can be compared to several serial killers, then that makes a pretty good argument for his inclusion on the Mount Rushmore of Evil. You never want to remind anybody of a serial killer.

“But this isn't very a few in the several. Don't you thought I am not doing this here?”

I'm not doing this today. I thought about this. It's just like linguistically few didn't really work in this case. Yeah, if a man could be compared to a few serial killers, that's just going to casual. You know, like a few, no, but several, hold way. Several, several is a word that, you know, when you need a little bit of, oh, we can come all be compared to a few serial killers. Yeah. Yeah. We want you to, you know. Yeah. But Jimmy Savile. That's a couple. Yeah.

in his mother's room. But it is why that interview was so important is that you also see Jimmy Savile being like, why you in here? Yeah. And being like, I want you to look at this

for a second, we don't need to stay in here. And then Louis Throes, like, no, why is it like this?

And you see him try to control it, look at the cameras, know that he's on camera and he can't do anything about it. And he's just like, it's a memorial. It's a memorial. Like he's like trying to act like it's like not strange. He was combative at every turn in that interview. And he's still convinced to throw somehow. Well, with the road, I think that it's just because the road was just, he could not fully say, like afterwards, now Throes saying, it's the worst man he's ever met.

But he was saying that when he was dealing with him, this was before all the accusations had, I mean, obviously, he was well, he asked him and I think that he was just trying to be like,

in his way, he was investigating weirdos. To the time, he was just like, oh, he could just be

“an absolute impenetrable weirdo because that's what you want to believe. Of course.”

Yeah, because I think didn't Throes say the like that Jimmy Savo is one of his heroes. Yes. Yeah, but he looked up to him. He wanted him. He even blew even fucking blew the road. Wanted him to be a good man. He was excited to meet him. Yeah. But once Jimmy Savo's grieving period was over, he was more popular than ever. And after the wild success of the eight episode long Seatbelt Safety Show, Quant Click, the BBC offered Jimmy Savo in ongoing show,

all his own. Just after the death of his mother, Savo took a meeting with the BBC executive,

who said that Savo had been fixing things for people all his life. That's all he does talking,

talking about his charity work. So why don't they try a program where Savo fixes things for people on film without a pause? Jimmy Savo agreed to do the show saying, we'll call it, Jimmy fix it. J. I. M. apostrophe double L. As Savo put it in the meeting, the devil L made the title, quote, come easily off the tongue. And it's with Jimmy fix it. Savo's numerous connections to the British royal family and his long deserved death that we will return next week for the conclusion to

this series. That is fucking it. This shit. You know the it's fascinating. This is an absolutely

“important thing. It is incredibly fascinating. It is really hard. Like it's hard. It feels like”

really waiting in a villain's mentality. Because like when we were doing him or like there's something about the history of it that allows me to sort of like separate myself a little bit, like just kind of the grand nature of it, all these fucking horrific machinations, the unspeakable atrocities of the Nazis allow you to sort of like view it more as like an observer of history. Where this is just like the reason why it keeps coming up for me is just because of how many of

these fucks I have run into in my life. And how many times I have met people that are supposedly supposed to be important people that are supposed to run thing aspects of my life. And then you're looking at the face that you know you're looking at a creep. You are fucking bald face locked into dealing with the fucking creep because they deal they literally suck at the very marrow of your dreams. They literally go to the people that have their like like talking about vulnerable,

like it's the other vulnerable stuff. Like people that are just like come to LA to be like I want to be on television and then they are just like sucked into a fucking machine that destroys

“their very soul. Oh yeah, that's why we go do what DIY. Never had to deal with anybody. No,”

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get a little bigger picture bill. And you put it on your pillow. Yeah, I'm in there. Yeah,

“I'm just trying to play for them. It's funny this time. No, it's time.”

It's just some for me. No, no. It's my pet. Give her give her sign off. Go ahead and tell

it. Yeah, and how game. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because she tried to get

all the land. You know, how's about this? Hell the spice girls. Spice girls are great. I gave a lot

“of shit the baby spice. I think she's lovely. Yeah, I think I don't know personally, but I don't”

know her personally, but I like her. I like the cut of her, Jim. So, what was that your spice? My spice? Yeah, what was your spice? Which one did you like most? I'm also an old big guy.

“No, I actually didn't like any of them. You don't like any of them. No, I wasn't a fan. I couldn't”

stand the spice girl. I like ginger spice. I liked Natalie and Bruglia. No. That was my time to be torn. Yeah. Scary spice. Yeah, of course. Definitely. We know. Yeah, there was no bonus bites. Yeah. Wow, you're so, you're so scary spice coded. Yeah.