Episode 669: Anton LaVey Part IV - Old Wizards Die Hard

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We're ready to blow you up, you're out. Before we begin today's episode, I want to warn you about the level of nerdiness who about to enter into Eddie was not ready. Well, he was not prepared as we were talking in a preamble about the things that we wanted to bring up in today's episode. He was actually, I could kind of feel his disappointment.

Also, I mean, disappointment, I felt indifference.

“Yeah, yeah, I see. I think what's good about the nerdiness in these episodes is I was able to lose my”

respect for both of you. And really helps me as an employee right now and allows you to make

brave or choices. It happens with all of them. Congratulations. Welcome to the last podcast and the left-lightest gentleman. My name is Marcus Parks. I'm here with the scholarly Henry's of Browsey. I am going to end this whole show with a sort of allegorical rundown of how I'm going to apply Gandalf's entire like life traveling moment to all of things he learned to the story of Anton Leve. But that is at the end so there's going to be plenty of fun

until then. We have the man that's bringing us the fun said Larsson. That's right, man. I know what I'm doing today. I want to bring up the cool. I got my George Clinton shirt on. Yeah, yeah, I want to make sure that everyone knew that at least one of us is kind of cool.

“I brought it back down with my Neil Adams Batman teacher. Actually, I think I destroyed everything”

with my two volumes set of the history of the Church of Sake, written by Michael Alquino, 700 pages of total correspondence maim 700 pages each. No, 350 pages each and one of the books is just the

appendices for the first one. Yeah, very much smack of copy paper. Yeah, this is great. This

come, you're going to honestly, I'm really happy a lot of you can run these at work. Yeah, it's great. It's your your Satanic sacrifice was getting late again. Hey, she won't read it. I don't want to see naked pictures of Susan Atkins Susan Atkins. Susan Atkins the Manson Girl. This is naked pictures in here. It's awesome. Oh, dude, you fucking don't know how cool shit can be once you get books. You know, you know, the internet. No, man. This is how I like to

masturbate. I like to masturbate with gigantic little plate sections and appendices. Look at that.

“Look at these bananas. There's a hot 70s babes in this shit. Every is a stage blood is fucking”

bloody lotion when he jerks. We're not going to get into the nerd just yet. We're still in the cool. We're still in the story of Sammy Davis Junior. Oh, fuck yeah. And we last heard the story of Anton LaVe and the Church of Satan. We were right in the middle of telling the tale of how one of their most unlikely adherence entertainer Sammy Davis Junior became friends with Anton and the rest of the Church of Satan crew. And when Sammy Davis Junior's TV movie poured devil aired on NBC

with obvious references to real Satanism, like Sammy's after-peated flashing of the devil horns. Yeah, baby. I love the program caught the attention of the upper echelons of the Church of Satan. Diane Higarty, co-founder of the Church of Satan, some might say the entire brains behind the entirety of the Church of Satan. She said that she was flybergasted when she, I, Henry, I like how you you grabbed your book and then decided to put it back down.

It's in this book. I'm going to say this entire book shows that Anton LaVe, he didn't do anything. What is it this, the other guys? Is this a Kenosha? Long story. We'll get to it. Make a look back. We now, you know. Well, Diane Higarty said that she was flybergasted when she saw a lovable, funny, harmless demon being depicted on TV by no less than Sammy Davis Junior, who in 1974 was one of our more harmless celebrities. She was also excited because if people

began seeing sateness as something closer to Sammy Davis Junior and further away from say Charles Manson, then the Church could really get cooking on membership. Michael Aquino, who was still Anton LaVe's right-hand man in 1973, he surprisingly agreed in his letter to Diane Higarty in which he called poor devil, a magnificent commercial for the Church. He added that the show's message was not far afield from what sateness believed. And in this, I actually agree with Michael

Aquino, I noticed it as I was watching poor devil. In poor devil, the accountant played by Jack Klugman once revenge on his boss, played by Batman's Adam West, in his usual style of acting in which he sounds like he's constantly on the verge of a painful orgasm he doesn't actually want. But Adam West character is constantly taking advantage of Klugman's character and generally makes

Klugman's character however, bolts it revenge and takes it all back when he sees that his plan

“is going to hurt a lot more people besides just his boss. His whole plan is he's going to empty out”

the department store where they both work on December 24th and Adam West is going to look like a dickhead. But then he realizes that it's going to ruin Christmas for a lot of people and a lot of the people who work at the store are also going to get hurt. So he's just bringing it all back in. Wow, even satinists want to save Christmas. Well, if you listen to a lot of satinists, truly satinism, how do you but Christmas is one of a gods like favorite side holidays that

isn't Halloween because Christmas is also just as filled with dark magic and all these kind of crazy dumb shit as anything else. Santas are a fucking home breaker and he's a fucking thief in the night. Well, it breaks in your house magically. He punishes you if you're wrong. Yeah. Well, and also just at a very base level, satinism is very materialistic and what's more materialistic than

“American Christmas. Nothing. Nothing in the world. But even though it seems like Klugman's backtrack”

is going to leave him right back where he started, the mere act of focusing his energies on revenge that results in his boss losing his mind and his job to Klugman himself. So with the help of Sammy Davis Jr's cartoonist Satanism, Klugman still gets his revenge. He still gets his greatest wish, but he does so without hurting anyone except the one who deserves it. So, like you know, as correct, it was actually quite satanic. It was, and my the guys, Dave Willis and Casper Callie,

the man your pretty face is going to hell. I didn't understand that they had to hell the screening of poor devil with Dana from your pretty face is going to hell. Master Shaykh. Master Shaykh, they kind of went and they did a interviewing of it and they had a great time. Yeah. Now, Anton of A didn't even see poor devil, but after talking to Hagarty and Akino,

“he's also saw the potential here, and the three of them began hatching plans and plots.”

See poor devil was a TV movie running about 70 minutes, but had the potential to go to series. So Anton initially aimed to get screen time in future episodes, and perhaps even swing a location shoot at the Church of Satan's Black House. Again, it sounds like it's for the church, but really, it's more about getting Anton into Hollywood. That's all it is, or at least getting Hollywood close to Anton. And that sweet location fee. No, I mean, it's a very good location fee.

Michael Akino, meanwhile, was focused on church business as always. He suggested that Anton

gives Sammy Davis Jr. an honorary magical position, and it said that Hagarty openly wondered what Sammy Davis Jr would think about being offered the opportunity to be the world's first Black Jewish Satanic Warlock. Yeah, that's a fucking golden man. That's a fucking resume. Yeah, man. And the candy man. I mean, yeah, I mean, he isn't he the one who wrote candy man for Willy Wonka. Oh, well, you know, he got, well, no candy man was it originally in the

musical. He, it's kind of funny. He famously hid at that song. He said it was his biggest hit, though. He started singing it. And then he has to go do it everywhere. But he did not write the candy man. He covered the candy man. Covered the candy man. Okay. All right. Well, as it turned out,

nothing in this world could have made Sammy Davis Jr happier than being the first Black Jewish

Satanic Warlock. I may be getting his eye back. It's like a really bummed amount for a while. Well, the church of Satan sent a letter offering the honorary Warlock position in just a month later, Davis sent a letter back saying he was all in. Now, after accepting their membership, Davis sweetly said that he was pleased that no one at the church of Satan was offended by poor devil. That we are falling under. So, the Satanist can't get offended. No, that's not a whole thing.

He's talking about Satanists get offended all the time. Yeah. I mean, not by stuff like that by attention. Davis then gave the Church of Satan his upcoming performance dates in the Bay Area, so they could present him with his honorary Warlock degree in person. Oh, my God. So many angry Italians. Yeah. And the Bay was quite pleased to find that one of Sammy's local concerts just happened to fall on Friday the 13th. Oh, yeah. Furthermore, the theater where Sammy was performing

was called the circle star theater, a circle in the stars, of course, a pentagram. So the coincidence is urging them all to move forward. Just kept coming. And so on the 9th of the performance, just before Sammy Davis Jr went out in front of an audience of almost 4,000, he received his Warlock ordainment certificate and his official bathroom at Medallion, although Anton Levay did not present it himself. In a letter to Michael Aquino, Levay wrote that they should all just play it cool,

Ant Levay, so Michael Aquino writes this letter, "Nant Levay, how proud he is." And the first time he got to meet Sammy Davis Jr. He was like, "Not only, let's Sammy absolutely impressed with my theological breakdown to all the differences between what we believe and do not believe." So what is PR people and his manager? So I gave him both the Kiddit's academic Bible and I gave

him up. And Ant Levay said truly one of the great, great piece of show business advice. Never talk

to the PR guy if you could talk to the celebrity. He's like, "Stop talking to PR guy right now. Don't give him anything." The PR guy's not your friend. Fuck the PR guy. Sammy's your friend. You talk

“to Sammy. If you want Sammy and you want to talk to Sammy, you call fucking Sammy because guess what?”

You give the PR guy the Satanic Bible. Guess we're never going to see again. Sammy, so you just got to fucking just talk to Sammy. Ant Levay is constantly fighting this idea of open an underground Satanism, which we'll get into. And so after the backstage ceremony, Sammy Davis Jr went out with Bethamet displayed prominently on his chest and he performed one hell of a show. Then closed his performance with an anthem that might as well be the Church of Satan's

theme song. Henry, if you would.

Rem right. Whether I'm wrong. Whether I find a place in this world or never belong. I got to be

me. I've got to be me. Why else can I be the ward? I've got to be me. I've got to be me. He's such a good obnoxious karaoke song. It is such a good like just like that's like that's like that's high. I forgot about that fucking song. And I jam that whole album when we're listening to this. Sammy is like, I think he's my favorite rap actor now. Easily. He's been number two. Obviously, I like Frank. I like his love Frank's voice and stuff, but he's my number two. See, Dean was my

guy and he took over for that. So Frank's down at number three for me. Damn. Yeah. And unfortunately, you know, his last name is Bishop. So he's out. Bishop. Fuck off. Show me. Now, Anton Hogarty and Akino spent the next few months weirdly hovering around Sammy Davis Jr's house without actually knocking on the door or letting Sammy know that they were even in the neighborhood. Because as I said before, certain elements of Hollywood tended to intimidate Anton Levay. He could

give great advice to Michael Akino, but when it came time to do it himself, he was he could get a little

“piece shot. He was not though. He was there with his giant gold helmet. You gotta remember that”

at heart, Anton Levay was still just a carney trying to level up in the world of entertainment. And while it's all show business, there's a wide gulf between carnival folk like the former Pony Levy and Hollywood stars like Sammy Davis Jr. Oh, there is my ol' support. I'd actually

kind of even say that Sammy Davis Jr's more powerful magician than Anton Levay. Sure. Yeah, because

he's sexy. I'm not even joking. But perhaps keeping their distance was the right move, because a few months after the concert at the Circle Star Theater, Sammy Davis Jr invited Anton Diane, but not Michael Akino. I thought I made such a good impression. I thought everybody was going to get me with my eyebrows or take a bow. You invited Anton and Diane to a small gathering at his home. Reportedly when Davis opened the door, he hugged Anton and Diane as if they were

all old friends. But besides Anton and Diane, Davis had also invited a pair of young witches. Presumably, Davis was hoping to explore the sexually experimental side of Satanic indulgence with the heads of the church themselves. Because after all, who's going to be freakier than the

“head freaks? That's what you think. But what Davis didn't know is that despite the fact that Levay”

continually encouraged others to indulge in their most carnival yet consensual urges, Levay and Hogarty were not swingers. Orgis weren't their thing. They liked piss. Oh, they liked piss. Great deal. Is this the time to talk about piss? Yeah, sure. So one of the fun things that is revealed in these books by Michael Akino is the fact that they heavily sanitize

So in the original Satanic mass, not only did they put a little thing, they the way for the Christian way, for inside the hooha of the naked lady. Once they put it in the chuchah,

“then her job was to masturbate to completion on top of it with it in her side, inside her, right?”

Then he pops it out of the slot after she's come. He puts it in a cup of P.P. until it dissolves. Everybody drinks the P.P.P because a woman dresses a nun as piss into a bowl

before then never went drink that P.P. And then at the end of that, after everybody's had

all the piss and that lady come filled wafer, Antelna V.A. stands in front of everybody, jerks off to completion and then that's the end. And that happened multiple times. Did he jerk off to completion in the thing that everyone drank? No, after the fact he would come into a cup and then they would put it on the altar and it was like that's like a no one drank has come. No, I don't think so. So he come in the piss and the Catholic cookies. Yeah, they're not disgusting. I think it day.

I do love those Catholic cookies. I just have a big pack of them. I'm just gonna wrap it up and brew it. Yeah, I put a pop on my flip them in the air. Like, I'm an old-timey gangster catch it in my mouth at the good time. This one's for you old man. Put one in a pussy. See how it goes. That's Julie. That's Julie. That's a little talk about it. The point is, all that's ritual stuff. Yeah. And it's all very controlled. It's not a part of

their daily life. No, and right after they literally had coffee and pick. Yeah. So on the night, the Davis hung out with Leve and Hogarty. These ended up being Sammy Davis Juniors, Tame Knights. Anton and Diane were his sober friends who were more likely to bring over a German silent film to watch than a fat sack of drugs to snort. This is fucking nerds.

It's obviously like when fans finally get the chance to hang out with us. It's like oddly boring.

Yeah, just like that. Sorry guys. Real normal shit. Real normal. Do you like the pool? Yeah. Honestly, pool is great. See besides sex, Sammy Davis Juniors also had a taste for substances. He was a whiskey man with a nose for cocaine. But when Anton and Diane settled in, during that very first hang, Davis's silver cocaine bowl got pushed behind the bar with his whiskey. Instead of dabbling and indulgence, Leve and Davis spent hours discussing the tenants of

Satanism. And while Leve was disappointed to hear him, the NBC hadn't picked up poor devil. He was damn near euphoric to hear that Davis was both experienced with Satanism and informed

of its finer, more subtle points. Yeah. I always thought that if I'm going to discuss the

tenants of Satanism, cocaine would help. Do you know what you think? Do you really think that they'd

“be wanting to have more fun? Yeah. What does I can remember what Robert Evans said about cocaine?”

Is that you know, it ruins the border, but it turns up the verbosity. Something like that. Yeah, I'm your friend. Now, over the next several years, throughout the mid-70s, Anton Leve and Diane Hagerty became Sammy's regular guests at intimate dinners, big parties, live shows, and visits to Sammy's second home near Lake Tahoe. Gotta remember, Anton and Diane fabulous dinner guests. Great dinner guests. At Lake Tahoe, Leve

was flattered to see that Davis had displayed the baffomat necklace presented by the Church of Satan in a prominent place in his master bedroom because Sammy Davis Jr. was, according to many girlfriends, an almost two-frequent practitioner of sex magic. Sometimes you just want to fuck. Yeah, do you know what? Why do we get into the whole prayer or why we do in the candles? He was all about the rigmarole. Yeah, I've heard of four play, but not six, six play.

Well, Sammy Davis Jr. would flirt with Diane Hagerty on occasion. It was not his fairly innocent comments about Diane that would eventually inflame Leve's jealousy. Instead, Anton Leve was more jealous of one of Sammy Davis Jr's other friendships. See, from when I can tell, Anton Leve wanted to be Sammy's only spooky friend. I don't understand. I thought I was just spooky friend.

She grabbed somebody else with his phone. Oh, that's fine. Oh, yeah. I'm sure they're super spooky.

“I thought I was spooky. How often do we have to hang out with Billy Christ?”

Yes. Now he's spooky. He's scary. He could be anybody. When Sammy put together a dinner party, he invited both Anton Leve and Christopher Leve. Sammy's co-star on poor devil. jealousy was inflamed and eventually Anton went on the attack.

Sure. Right. So on his own is killed people too. He's killed people. He knew JR Tolken.

“He is Saraman like he is that guy. He was fully into the occult, but what Anton Leve and Sammy”

Davis Jr didn't know is that he was on the other side of the occult. He's like a witchfinder general. He's like one of those guys that believe he's like the power of Christ does beat the power of Eve. The reason why I do my films is to show the fallie of evil. Like it's his whole plan that he was walking into one of those. Yeah. And also like if you just put Christopher Lee, if you stack up Christopher Lee next to Anton Leve as a man, Anton Leve is a piss man. Oh, I'm talking about just

I'm talking about more character wise. Oh, yeah. Christopher Lee's a fucking incredible artist.

Anton Leve was actually pretty big. He was over six foot tall. Oh shit. And he actually really think about Christopher Lee was six five. Yeah. He was six foot five. Yeah, exactly. But he also has to hit time in the war. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Davis thought that Leve and Christ

“for Lee would get along great. Sure. I mean, come on. He or the church is Satan.”

They're Dracula. It's going to be awesome. Yeah. But it was soon obvious that Leve was both insecure with how closely in Davis were. And he was also said to have been annoyed by Christopher Lee's quote, "pregish manner." No, you don't like my "pregish manner" when I don't like your

facial hair that looks like the trimmed bush of our own woman. I hate your goaties so much. I want

to put a bayonet in it. It's such a bad choice by Anton Leve. If he would have buttered him up, if he would have kissed his ass a little bit, imagine what getting Dracula would do for the church. Well, don't you think that Anton Leve, he, it just was, he really was too bitter for his on good. He really was. He couldn't, he couldn't see the forest for the trees, because it's like with Christ for Lee, you get him with Christ for Lee. Oh, that's the world of B movies.

Oh, he opens up for, he's the, at this point, he is the king of the B movie. He would have been a movie star, Anton Leve. Might have been, but yeah, eventually everything came to a head when Leve started an argument over who was the best Dracula. Lee himself, who would play Dracula 10 times or the original, Bella Lagosi. Leve, of course, was, "Why did you do this? Who is doing it? Who thought this was a good fucking idea?" It's such an antagonistic dickhead. They thought, um,

no Dracula, he's, "Pugob, you know, you're so Bill, you know, no Belle Lagosi, but you know, if you want it, you can be a fucking piece of shit, I will slide the wits." I like Belle Lagosi number one,

“black you're number two, and then I think you're probably three, I think.”

I thought about, the man, if you thought about being black, well Leve, of course, was adamant that Christ for Lee was dog shit is Dracula compared to Bella. And after Leve, baited Lee a little too much, Sammy Davis Jr had to step in just before Leve and Leve gotten to an actual fist fight. But considering how Sammy Davis Jr was five foot four, and Christ for Leve was six foot five, I think the so-called fight was more for show than anything.

I think they just kind of, you know, bow down, Leve, was just saying, "We fucking said, we said, I gotta do it." I gotta do it. I gotta do it. Hey, listen, there you guys got to come down, say, "Hey, you crazy catch why we're doing this." "The girls, girls getting cold." Even though the spooky boys dinner party went badly, Leve and Davis' friendship continued to grow for reasons beyond just a good hang. See Leve accepted Davis for everything that he was,

including the fact that Sammy Davis Jr was also bisexual, or at the very least, highly fluid when it came to sexual relations. And so Leve and Davis were friends throughout the 1970s. Leve would send books on the occult to Davis with the sign-off "infoenily yours." While the two developed a shared nickname for Satan, they called him by the archaic term "old slewfoot," which Davis loved, because he was an accomplished tap and soft shoe performer.

Well, that was the fun, because they keep, they always call him in their letters. They always call him

the man downstairs. Check with the man downstairs. Like, it's this whole thing that he does. We're like, "Yeah, check them with the man downstairs. It's not going to fly." "It's really funny, the way they just fall." "Got it, it's so cool." "It is now." Now, throughout his friendship with Sammy Davis Jr, it seems like Leve was finally getting everything he wanted. Davis would brought Anton into his inner circle of show business

connections. And at Davis's parties, Anton and Leve finally felt like he belonged. He was holding his own with Hollywood stars and music industry professionals alike. You know, Christopher Lee,

had a lot of pull with Sammy Davis Jr, even though he'd always treated him as little more than a prop.

That man is none other than the leader of the rat pack himself. All blue eyes. Frank Sinatra. "Got it." You know, he was obviously an asshole. He was such a prick,

“because he worked with the mob, and all that shit. But like, fake, too. You know what I mean?”

He really was. He was. He got he put himself in the mob. Yeah, but I will say. I mean, like, that's where the money is. Oh, yeah. That's where Sammy's got everything. Oh, that's true. I'm trying to like, different Sinatra, like accents. Also, so good to be like, there was a story down. Rickles was saying about how one night, him and Frank were out drinking until like three o'clock in the morning. And he said, there was a lightning storm outside the bar.

And then the lightning would flash. The lightning would flash. And Frank Sinatra eventually was like, "Someone will tell those photographers just knock that shit off." What's the 70s turned into the 80s? Sammy Davis Jr's social life was getting a little too groovy for the famously square Frank Sinatra. Now, granted, Davis was definitely partying way too hard. But from what it seems like, it was Davis's close association with Satanist like Anton the Bay

“that really got Sinatra's go. So sometime in the late 70s, Sinatra told Davis to get his shit together”

and cool it with the drugs and the booze. But above all, stop hanging out with all of these God forsaken Satanists. Talians do not like Satanism. No, no, no, no, this is very interesting. Because you figured they would love it. No, they think so. There's certainly a fan of none porn, which is really close to Satanism, if you ask me. They just are, they're big priest fans over there. They go all big priest fans. They really believe in the church. They do. But Sinatra's

comment about Satanist was highly ironic when you consider that the time Davis spent with Satanists

were always his most sober and sexless night. Yeah, that was when he was learning. Yeah,

the Sinatra sure to said, yeah, it was Satanist. Good influence. Keep hanging out with them. Stop hanging out with old holes. Send them to me. Send them to me. Send them all. Franky boy. Sinatra was the connection to all the money. All the producers. Yes.

“Fucking mob. No one likes this shit. Yeah. Now, we don't know for sure if Sinatra's”

tutting is really what caused Davis to pull back on his friendship with Anton Levay. But after the conversation, little by little, the frequent hangouts turned into occasional phone calls, and Anton and Sammy drifted apart by the end of the decade. It also could have been Sammy Davis Jr., or someone close to him, they saw what was coming on the horizon in the 1980s. See an excerpt from one of Davis's many memoirs, 1980s Hollywood and a suitcase. It ran in the

New York Daily News as a preview under the subtitle, a touch of Satanism and lessons in love. Fucking bastard. In this excerpt, Davis wrote that he joined the church of Satan and still had many friends within the organization. Flatout writing, I became a Satanist. But when the book was actually released, all mentions of the Church of Satan have been wiped away, because the Satanic panic had finally arrived. This is where the temperature changes for this whole fucking thing,

1980. As you start to see, so they had an issue in the Grotto's, right? So the Grotto's,

Ravi's always the main problem, because the Grotto's, it was a constant fight since the beginning

of the Church. And the Grotto's just to remind you were the kind of satellites of the Church of Satan, which people would kind of grow their own satanic organization within their community. Yeah, it was like the head of the report back to the Church of Satan in San Francisco. They did. There was a little if one, the Yuga, there was Babylon, there was Stagon, all these kind of different names, and each one of them kind of had a problem. They had a

constant issue with, how do we manage these, how tightly are we supposed to be running these, how much we're supposed to be micromanaging these grotto's? Michael O'Kino was like, total freedom, every one of them needs to do whatever they want, cause constant, fucking problems. And the main, one of the main problems is being out or being in as a satanist, which means either being a public satanist or being a, um, ant on the bay like to call

his underground clergy. His underground clergy were his, was his favorite, which is people that had regular jobs that did not want the world in general to know that they were satinists, but they showed up to the rituals. The main problem with the grotto's were having was, yeah, people were signing up, but no one was coming to the ritual. No one was doing stuff because some of the grotto's were out. Some of the grotto's meant like,

oh, we have public rosters, you could know that who is here, and there were people that were constantly fighting back and forth, how do you figure this out? And the satanic panic was one of those things that accelerated all of it, because one grotto was like, we're mainly undercover people,

always happens. A teacher molested a bunch of kids, they like, did a whole thing about satanic

“cults and all this kind of shit. A lot of heat was going around this one grotto. And they were like,”

what the fuck are we supposed to do? How do we save ourselves from all this heat? And on ant on the bay wrote a scathing letter, being like, you're supposed to stand up for the church of Satan and go right about how we don't do this. You're supposed to stand up identify yourselves and do this and it created this massive fucking problem. It was like one of the first things where they were like, no, you're like, you're like, now micro managing us after telling us we could do

whatever the hell we want, and it caused a big fucking issue. Destroy that grotto. Yeah.

Now even though Sammy Davis Jr was no longer public with his satanism, he never stopped practicing,

and he was known to cautiously gauge interest in satanism with other celebrities if he got a feeling that the other celebrity might be hit by fucking, I love this one. It's good. When a tribute show was being put together for Sammy Davis Jr in 1989, after he was diagnosed with terminal throat cancer, Eddie Murphy was chosen as the MC, reportedly during a dinner between Eddie Murphy and Sammy Davis Jr. Sammy lightly said, you know, Satan's as powerful as God.

Fucking, just don't do fucking cool. Just drop it in there. Yeah. David gave his juniors the only real saint. He's like, he's so close to being the top person Satan. It was so close. Just dropping it into a conversation and fucking Eddie Murphy in 1989 when Eddie Murphy's like the most famous man on earth. Oh yeah. 22 years old. Fuck yeah. Red hot star. Well, the famously close-minded Eddie Murphy just responded with,

what the fuck are you talking about? Hey, I'm just talking. You know, Sammy Sammy just talks. So Davis dropped the subject as soon as it was brought up. But according to friends and girlfriends, Davis practiced Satanism and ritual magic well into his dying days. One girlfriend said that she had to stop seeing Sammy because of his interest in sex magic in particular, but not because he did anything bad. Love making, she said, became a ritual tied into the worship of the

occult in ways that she didn't want to understand. But it must be said that Sammy's practice did get quite dark at times. With everyone's consent, Davis was fond of drawing blood with sharp

objects like broken bottles, often from genital areas. But always said, it's kind of bad just

Sammy did it like, you're not from bringing the bottle into it and just like, and then what just Billy Chrysler like watching from the cuckoo chair. Just being like, there's an amazing idea about a play about Mickey Man, like if that was, yeah. But to his credit, it must be mentioned that his aforementioned wife, Altavise, stayed with Sammy from 1970 until his death 19 years later. In fact, the information about sex magic comes from letters written to Altavise, in which

a shared associate was seemingly just keeping Sammy's wife up to date on what her husband was doing. But when Sammy Davis Jr's big send off at the end of his life was televised in 1989, Anton Lavey was not invited. Instead, he watched it at home on TV with everyone else, probably cursing Frank Sinatra for having a hand in dashing the vase obvious dreams of establishing himself in the world of entertainment. A chance like that would never come again.

Yes, CBS doesn't want his fucking ass there, no. They really don't have it because, you know, I do think a lot of it has to do with how kind of unsure and bashful he was.

“I think I'm here for Anton Lavey. I think Anton Lavey would, oh, he at by 89, he hadn't talked”

to Sammy Davis Jr in a decade. And he'd already become a rotten pumpkin of himself. Yeah. And so as a show, Anton Lavey would ruin the vibe. He really would ruin the whole vibe of the whole trip you'd show. Nobody knows. Yeah, and that's the, and to be honest, that's Anton Lavey's eternal sadness. And we see that in the letters, his eternal sadness of the fact that coining himself is the pope of evil pushed every one away. Yeah. And he could never get in, made him and destroyed him.

And he could never get into a community of people he liked again. See, he put all his cards in the Sammy Davis Jr. He should have been going to Jimmy Page. Well, he was doing a key was sending out feelers. He was. And they're, but the problem is, is that Jimmy Page was into fucking war to the rich. Yeah. And I think that Anton Lavey famously hated rock music. I think he really

“disliked it. Like, he was a fucking collipe player. And you can also remember, he's an old man.”

Yeah. He's not, he is not a, he was born in the 20s. You know, he's not in a Led Zeppelin. You know, he doesn't care about all that shit. He thinks it's all noise. He wants collipe. He wants

Satanism had left the earth. Like, he's kind of had this belief a little bit of there are,

“like, you can't just become a Satanist. You just are one or are not. So he is one of those where”

he couldn't, he was thought more people to show up. He thought more people would cool people would show up. And he didn't like who showed up. Yeah. Also, it's interesting because Frank Sinatra he kind of lost his shoes you when he's stuck. Even when he, when he went against rock and roll. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I went to fucking went into rock and roll a little bit. I mean, he Dessy did this Mrs. Robinson cover. But this is a part of what I'm saying. My overarching

idea of the reason why old wizards die hard is because they refuse to die first while they're alive. Cannot the gray had to die to become Gandalf the White in order to save everyone. Yeah. And that requires self-sacrifice and the requires getting rid of the old you and growing into a third

phase, which he never did. You know, who did Liam Neeson? Yeah, he did. Yeah, he got to see

Pamela Anderson's vagina once. Yeah, that's huge. And Sinatra also came back in a 1980 with New York New York. Yes. Yeah, that's the thing. No one realizes that he didn't do that until 1980. What? Yeah. New York New York is from 1980. It's from the musical. Yeah, it's from the

“back camera for what the musical was called. But yeah, it was from, I think you're going to”

make you idiot. And so now that we've told the tale of Sammy Davis Jr. and the Church of Satan, let's turn back the narrative clock to the early 1970s, where we return our focus to the inner workings of the Church of Satan itself. See, in the early to mid-70s, that's when Anton of A started turning his eye more towards Hollywood. And the vase, right, him, and head nerd, Mike Lacino have been just as excited as Anton Diane about the possibilities of poor devil.

But within just two years of those heady days, the schism between Acino, the academic, and LaVe, the showman would grow too wide to fix when Acino disagreed with one of LaVe's new Church policies. See, Acino, and this is very important. Acino actually believed that Satan was real. Satan is a dude that you can talk to and ask to do things for you. Anton LaVe was an atheist. This, of course, is a problem when two guys with these mindsets are trying to run a church together.

Well, also, there is a difference between the inner group and then the outer group. So, in Anton LaVe's inner group, he's way more willing to expand his consciousness. In the inner group, he's way more willing to be, okay, we will do these ritual activities. Because according to

“Michael Lacino, this is what he means. This is what it means by Satan is real. Is it what he's saying?”

Is that for Anton LaVe, when they were doing this satanic mass, he, Anton LaVe is saying, this is a dramatic representation. It can lead you to things or not. But largely, this is just kind of a group building activity. We're doing this. But according to Michael Lacino, when they were all together, he knows that there was something else in the room. That every single time they did one of these things, that's where it started. That there was something else in the room and that they all acknowledged it.

But then all of them would become too cool to acknowledge it later on because they did not want to face what they were doing. But what they were what was happening was that accidentally, Michael Lacino was just making Christianity again. He's just making it again. Like, and so that's the room. He's just replacing it with another thing. Yeah, he's actually making Protestantism. We'll get into here at a second. LaVe is like the show promoter and Aquino's like the historian. Yes.

Sure. Now for Michael Lacino, the final insult came when he saw a draft for an article that LaVe was planning to publish in the Churches Internal Publication, the Cloven Huff. So Aquino is already myth that LaVe for dismantling the grotto system, which did not go smoothly and it did not go like, oh, it's over. No. No, no, no, no. It was just, it was just total, Kakami Borsha. Yeah, Quino kind of fucked that one up. They all fucked that up. LaVe's focus on materialism

had always wrankled Aquino's spiritual standards. But regardless of the purity that Aquino was

wanting and expecting in the fucking Church of Satan, a man's got to eat and money was tight within the organization by 1975. So LaVe decided that he was going to simply sell initiatory ranks within the Church, which ironically could be compared to the Catholic Church selling indulgences in the 16th century. Michael Lacino playing the Martin Luther role in this situation believed that simply selling ranks was dishonorable and corrupt because what was the point of doing the reading

if someone could just buy their way into a magic circle. But even though Michael Lacino offered alternatives, LaVe refused to back down on the plan. So Michael Lacino left the Church of Satan along with a fair number of other Satanists who were also becoming dissolution with LaVe to start

settingism has been described as more esoteric Satanism, as opposed to LaVe's rational flavor.

“Antelma Vey served in the great legacy of other magical teachers simplifying the lessons.”

According to Antelma Vey, in the Satanic rituals, what he has already done is served like kind of like putting together a summarize all of the various esoteric schools in a one book according to their belief system. And so that's he thought we're done. We've done this. Now this is the set of rituals we go. Michael Lacino is trying to say we're not going far enough. Yes. Because Antelma Vey is saying, no, the old point of this is unleash your personal power.

Lesser magic. Yes, there is greater magic, which is a change in the world and becoming one with the God ahead and doing all this stuff. But he even said, that's for fucking later, that's for your private time, that's for your own belief system, blah, blah, blah. This whole thing is to release the lesser magic. The things that you can actually control the manipulate in a one-to-one carnit level. And Michael Lacino just refused to believe that.

Because he had this idea that, no, there is this like burning thing inside us, all that will purify us. Yeah. So Kenos like actually crazy. Well, you read this. Thank you for the man's in the street. The temple is set by Kenos. No, I would say Michael Lacino is no crazier than a priest. No, no, no, no, no. The temple of set books. The reason why I don't bring those in is because those are the most boring things you've ever even more boring than this. Because the thing about

this book, The Church of Satan by Michael Lacino volume one is that it's every single subreddit meltdown you've ever written, but they had a right letter instead of instant messages. So they literally had to spend weeks back and forth doing a mod breakdown in a reddit group. Oh, no, the grotto system falling apart. It's just mod drama. Oh, my God. All it is.

“Oh, my God, it's at mod drama. And honestly, every single thing is the squeakyist”

wheel gets the fucking greets. Every single thing is the least important grotto and the least

important people are the ones causing the most important problems. Always always always always.

That is always the role. Yes. Now with any year of his breakup with Lefe, a Kino wrote a new manifesto claiming that it was born entirely through automatic writing, just like Alistair Crowley's book of the law. But a Kino was a nerd who didn't have a sense of humor. So he was not prepared for all the ejaculate jokes that would no doubt be made when he named the foundational text for his new satanic religion, he named it the book of coming fourth by night.

Amen. I just hate being behind those first three dudes. Listen, your book is just like, it's your book's titles. What is it? No, it's just coming fourth by night. The book of coming fourth by night. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's fine. We're going to get it. Where do you want it? It happened at night. That's not the problem, Mike. I came. I came at night. I came fourth at night. Well, so this is the book of coming fourth. It's like, well, you know what I mean. You know what it is.

What? It's a take on the book of coming fourth by day, which is in the Egyptian book of the dead. Sure. He just stole the name of the book. No, of course he stole it, but it's he just he got it. He got it. Look at it and take like, okay, no, I can't do that because people are just going to make a bunch of Comjo of course also like sectism is way domer than Satan is. Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't roll up the tongue.

“There's no zip to it because there were a minute the temple of set sounds cool. True. That's it. That's what it is.”

Yes, satian is dumb and also the idea of because that was the idea is that devil did devil appear to him. But you call themselves Satish. Satish is. Oh, the Satish. The Satish. Yeah. But according to Michael Keynote, the devil appeared to him and said, I want you to stop calling me by my Jewish name. Yeah, and because that's the whole thing is we yes, we kind of like glossed over a lot of stuff. But in the the Jewish idea of like Satan, the world Satan is the adversary and all this kind of shit.

But it kind of served as like a lighter villain, which was what we kind of talked about. But that the devil Bentley went to Michael, Keynote and says, well, you got to make this a Jewish. And then they went and they changed him and he made him into set because he's deeply into Egyptology. Yeah. He says that he wants to be called by his proper original name. Well, what we know as the Biblical Satan is actually the ancient Egyptian deity set. God of storms and desert,

you surfer and murderer of his brother Osiris. And his belief is that the satian Egyptian

princes and kings were the most powerful and that once they started going away from that, it included the Osiris myth,

which is where the Jesus myth would come from. That is when the Egyptian world sort of falling apart.

sat, they even controlled them as all of Africa. No, good for them. I do know that the Egyptian

teacher said that for sure. The table of set was against all odds a relative success. And a Keynote continued running the temple for years while maintaining rank in the United States active guard reserve. Mostly though, a Keynote settled into the role of an academic, earning a PhD in political science before taking an adjunct professor job at Golden Gate University. A Keynote also continued his fight with Anton Levay, which some described as an obsession.

It's 700 pages long, besides publishing a scathing history of the Church of Satan, the debunked many of Levay's claims about his own biography. A Keynote also found and released

divorce proceedings restraining orders and even bankruptcy filings that all painted Levay in a negative

light. And don't get in the fight with a fucking nerd who's good at paper work. No, that's a promise. And the guy did all the paperwork, because the guy that fucking comes against you, just like, fuck up, Michael. You can't fight him because he was the guy that did all the paperwork. Whilst continuing the fight with Levay, a Keynote also became obsessed with Nazi occultism. See, in 1983, he went on a work trip on behalf of the United Nations to Europe.

But he decided to play hooky a bit, so he could drop by Vevil's bird castle in Germany.

“If you'll remember, Vevil's bird was supposed to be Heinrich Himmler's headquarters for his”

Nazi occult on an era by Area Knights of the Round Table. So after sneaking in, a Keynote actually performed a magical ritual within the underground ceremonial space the Himmler was planning to use to hold his own rituals. You know, he didn't, you know, he didn't even sneak in. You know that he used his government context to get access to it. Well, yeah, he went in and he was like, he got in and then I'm here from the U.N.

I'm here to do stuff. Whatever you want, man, you know the U.N. fucking hated that shit. Oh, yeah. Well, according to the Temple of Sett Wikipedia page,

out of this ritual came the second order of the trapezoid, which was a simple repackaging of

Ant on the vase early governing body of the church of Sett. But since the Keynote was just as big of a nerd as Himmler, he took a page from Himmler's book and decreed that his order of the trapezoid was going to be a chivalric order of night. The trapezoid is the door to the angles. The angles are the way to the center. The center is the heart of evil. Sure. This, of course, brought accusations that a Keynote was sympathetic to Nazi ideology.

He was. And like all these assholes, a Keynote said that, you know, the Holocaust, it's repugnant. It really is deadly. It just tastes full of repugnant. That's my thing, it roaps me the wrong way. But he also believed that Heinrich Hummer had through a cult means summoned an extraordinary psychic force. That force, a Keynote said, had been misdirected by the Nazis, although according to a Keynote quote. It need not have been.

“Whatever. Yeah. Just say it normal, Michael. You know, I upon reading all of this, right?”

So Ant on the Bay and Michael the Keynote had very different views on Naziism. They did. But his view. I think Michael the Keynote's view. Ant on the Bay's view is opportunistically naive. And probably misaligned with the rest of the world. Super. Michael, look at it into that later. Yeah. Michael, Keynote is one of those guys of the reason why I don't like neo-Nazi is because the OG Nazis would have killed them all because they're not tough enough. They're not, they don't do

it right. The idea is that they didn't do it right. Him or what have killed these neo-Nazi's. This is whole belief in this idea that anything, and it's like, again, another thing he doesn't particularly understand is that if you're magic is attached to the Holocaust, it does it matter what good it could have done. Yeah. It does it. I'm just talking as a wizard. Right? I'm talking as a fake wizard on a podcast, telling somebody understand that you even I know anything that's connected

“to the Holocaust is not the Holocaust. You know, I mean, it's not just like, oh man, what's he?”

Is that a whoopsie do? Right? It is a gigantic genocide machine created by a specific point of view fueled by occultism. So let's just not act like it's fucking that it's set. You can't separate the two. I just can't believe the military let him stick around. Well, you also have to remember that he was good at it. It's good. It's good. It is job. And also, this is a time period and you've

So there is still a little tiny bit of a view of like, hey, even if they fucking pop up, we're

“kind of like, yeah, I mean, no one's gonna take in the Nazis seriously. Yeah, they're looser.”

Yeah, right now. Yeah, not now, not now. But in 1983, they're back to the night now. Yeah, and also, it's not like he is, you know, broadcasting that he's doing all this stuff. No, he kept it close to the vest. Yeah. And the army also, you know, especially intelligent services, intelligent services don't give a fuck what you do outside of your own personal life, outside of what they ask you to do, as long as you get the job done, don't give a shit. I don't care at all. It's kind of the problem

with them. Yeah. But as Mike LeKino became a far more visible satinist or satian as he'd call it, the target on his back got larger and larger as the satanic panic was cultivated by the same people. A keynote was courting. Oh, I thought the target on his back got larger and larger as he got fat. Well, a keynote appeared as a guest on not just the Oprah Winfrey Show, but also on Haraldo. And few people in the media did more to stoke the flames of the satanic panic than Haraldo Rivera.

Even though we had the same facial hair as Antama van. But even though I suppose a keynote was

trying to hide and plain sight tactic, the satanic panic finally touched Mike LeKino in 1986.

After an investigation was opened, looking into accusations of satanic ritual abuse at the Procidio Army bases daycare in San Francisco. Allegedly 58 children were abused at the daycare by 1987. Mike LeKino himself was named when the three-year-old daughter of an army chaplain accused a keynote of sexually abusing her during a satanic right held at a keynote San Francisco home. What? Yes. Yes. Now that this shit happened. It happened hundreds upon hundreds of times

throughout the entire decade into the 90s. People went to prison on shit like this. It's happening right now again. But it's back then specifically the idea is kids want to please.

“That's what kids want to do is a kid wants to make it happy and a kid wants to get a reward.”

So they would start asking these kids leading questions and the kid just kept saying yes, because they would get rewarded anytime they said yes. And kids, of course, say wild, like they just say wacky shit. You know, the things that don't make any sense. But the people asking the questions would take them seriously and it would just build and build and build and build

until finally you had an entire satanic underground that didn't actually exist.

It was basically built by three-year-olds. Yeah, fucking three-year-old doesn't even know the English language. Well, the reason why they were weaponizing three-year-olds in order to prop up to either create smoke screens for their own crimes. I'm just going to say that. They were were very either covering up for themselves and they were using the innocent words of a three-year-old in order to do that or they were specifically held the belief, which we saw with the West

Memphis three, that they get this idea. These like local locals start to have this idea that

“I'm fighting Satan himself because I believe that this shit is real. So if you don't believe,”

if no one would believe any of this, if they actually didn't believe in Satan himself. Yeah, and that's the thing is that with that, I mean, that West Memphis three, that is definitely local locals, this is a fucking army base in the middle of San Francisco. Yeah, like these are serious serious accusations against people within the military itself and people are taking it

extraordinarily seriously. You know what's interesting is I always see this happening now and like

they hate something and they go out it's so hard to try and take it down. All they end up doing is making it more popular. Always. Yeah, I'm hooked, but actually give specific concrete examples of that later on in this episode. Well, police raided Michael Okino San Francisco home and searched high and low for any sign of Satanic ritual abuse. Of course, they found nothing because nobody ever once found anything ever anywhere. Eventually it was discovered that Okino wasn't even

in San Francisco when the abuse was supposed to have taken place. And you can go look that up y'all because I've already seen some messages about Michael Okino. It's oh, we are still getting it, that's the thing. Michael Okino sued everybody wrote the books about him naming him as the suspect and he won. And then the thing is it's, but guess what? It didn't do anything because I'm still getting emails calling Michael Okino a child molester and it's like he's a lot of things.

Yeah, he's not a child molester. He's mostly just an asshole. An asshole. Yeah, yeah, he's like the physical ability. He honestly could probably barely get it up for his wife.

Yeah, it's the chubby. It's the chubby head. It's the chubby face. It just screams child molester.

“Yeah. Yeah. It's a little eyebrows. I mean, we all know it's the eyebrows. Like a bulletin.”

So incredibly unlikely. Yeah. But and that's the thing. He wasn't even living in San Francisco. When all of us was happening. He was living across the country in Washington, DC, probably living across the country in Washington, DC. It was proven in court that he was not anywhere near San Francisco when all this happened. But the allegations followed Okino for the rest of his

days. After years battling the false rumors, he finally shot and killed himself with a gun in 2019

in the face of terminal cancer. There's a wild couple of sentences. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was, yeah. Yeah. Mike Laquino ended hard. Yeah. That that like whole do. Yeah. Yeah. They're really all in very hard. It is not like no one none of these guys die like surrounded by their grandchildren or by friends or any no beautiful ceremony. It's

“it's a hard end every single time. It turns out it's been in your entire life. You know,”

cultivating hatred and anger and fear. Since just like by the time you get to the end of it, no really not a whole lot of rainbows left. Yeah, that a lot of selling points for the Mike Laquino was not alone in the satanic ranks when it came to accusations of sympathy towards Nazis. Neo Nazis in particular. Anton the Bay did indeed palarown with Neo Nazis throughout the 1970s and beyond, which seems at odds with his legitimate friendship with a Jewish

black eye like Sammy Davis Jr. But the radical acceptance that La Bay and the Church of Satan had towards Sammy Davis Jr. That worked both ways. While I certainly don't agree with it, it seems like Anton the Bay would associate with anyone who tickled a certain intellectual curiosity, regardless of how foul their beliefs might be. But as we all know, as soon as you let Nazis inside in any capacity whatsoever, every other Nazi sees your organization or your location

as a safe space. But it seems like Anton the Bay was not familiar with the Nazi bar principle. Could, however, also be the Anton the Bay simply found these people fascinating, because the Neo Nazis who were supposed to be friends with Anton the Bay, they were, in fact, the weirdest, most pathetic of the entire bunch. There's one very illuminating letter in here that made me realize what Anton the Bay was doing, which is, again, I don't think it was correct.

But he had a motive. So it was neither. It was not intellectual curiosity, and it wasn't even like he was into the guys. He straight up just straight up, he straight up said, Satanism needs every ally. We need everyone. We need the Nazis and the Jews. In his mind Anton the Bay said,

the Neo Nazis were never all that serious. They held their Naziism on their sleeve and that sleeve

can be ripped off. And his idea was that I can insinuate myself into these Nazi groups. And then what we do is you start the, oh, yeah, your enemies are my enemies. I hate those guys. But there's somebody even worse. The Catholic Church, you're my right. And then eventually Anton the Bay would work his way through these, join the Nazis and the Jewish people, and a hatred towards the Christian Church, and as allies to Satanism. He doesn't understand, they're just not going to hang out.

Yeah, it's just not going to. Yeah, they're fucking harm and grounds not there. It's really fucking stupid. It's not going to happen. He's by dream. He legitimately just, because it was the things that everybody thinks that everybody else is using everybody else. And he thinks that, oh, they'll help us and they're not even at serious. And it's just like no bro. It's like that's the problems that you're making them serious. Yeah. When you hang out with them, you give them the

legitimacy and guess what that is. Weirdly, a lack of self-esteem on your part, Pope of Satan. Yeah. That's a lack of self-esteem. You understand how much you don't need them. And how much

“technically you didn't need anybody. And you should have stuck to that that I didn't need anybody.”

Yeah. It was desperate. You was. And you wanted, he has the Trumpism thing of, I just want a friend. He has a con man that just wants to be liked. The difference between the corny, I think that any other type of person in this is that he's a genuine entertainer. And I think that he had a vacuum hole in him that was looking for love. And I think a lot of con men are desperate for love.

And then what they do is create a set of circumstances and what that love can be so powerful and

so pervasive as that it's supernatural. That's why I'll run Hubbard was looking for it. That's why these people look for it. It's because they're so empty. Yeah. And they want love so bad. They want to be loved and unconditionally loved. So they have to create a cult to do it. Any really is like portraying the fucking lead character of Nightmare Alley.

Yeah. Is that he doesn't understand. He's becoming the thing that he never wanted to be.

“Yeah. That's why all these guys end up bitter and alone at the end of their lives.”

Because they just they'd refuse to change. And they just become the, they just become the bitter old fuck who doesn't do anything with their life. He actually weaponized it into a rich wall called emotional crystallization. In initiation it was an ECI thing that he called it. And what he would do is he said in a way for a man to keep his youth was to surround himself with pictures of himself from his youth. And to not engage with youth culture. He said that that it's like,

but it's the opposite. What he didn't understand is that he was crystallizing himself. Yeah. It's surrounded by its white James woods. It's why people turn maga. Yeah. It's because as you an older man, you get to this point. So what older guys hit this point? Because you fall out of love with yourself. Yeah. And you want to find new community, you want to find new excitement. You want to be around a bunch of

“people to make you feel exciting and young and fulfilled and all this stuff. And you want to”

remind me of when you were young. Yeah. And it gets why the fascism uses nostalgia as a weapon.

Always. It is the most powerful weapon they have.

Well, the man that's usually identified as a neo Nazi associate of Anton Lewe is James Hartung Madole, who was raised in the upstate New York town of Beacon, born in 1927 to an incredibly anti-Semitic mother who brought Madole up herself. You never hear that. You never do hear it's like, boy, my mother. Hey, Joe, it's never like that. James was to put it lightly a massive fucking nerd. He was a lonely young boy who found refuge in science, going so far as to build a laboratory in his own home.

But when he reached his teenage years, he came to see science in Faustian terms. The scientist he came to believe was a semi-divine mage who saw mastery of the earth and the whole universe.

“Oh, that's a guy who made Tustinos? Yeah, man. He had a guy who made fart pills?”

Well, partly Madole's ideas on science came from the science fiction of the 1930s in 1940s in which

the so-called heaven-storming scientist fought against God himself. Fuck you God, I've made rubber. And it's synthetic. I don't even know. The lands anymore. I'm free from your nuclear. I made a little I shall use these to make my pipes fit together better. Yeah, that's all we got. Madole also absorbed the authoritarian utopias and the master races that were so popular in the sci-fi of the era. And when you mix in his mother's antisemitism and everything happening

with the Nazis and Germany in the 1930s and 40s, you had James Madole sci-fi fascists. You, you, you, you, you, you, you. Shoot Jews with lasers. Before we go too far into this, I'm just curious. I'm like, how where is the Church of Satan on science? Because obviously science is killed God. So like, we're, oh, they're very pro science. Yeah, they are pro science. And but also Antonlevay is one of those guys that is into folk magic and like local keros. So he is also into that. Like he does like science

and stuff, Michael Kino's a big like science guy, obviously. And then but he also believes that there's like lesser magic that can help use. Let's say let's say that they're more likely to die the death of Steve Jobs than most people. Maybe. Yeah. So in his late teens, James Madole found other sci-fi fascists like author Charles B. Hudson. Hudson was a prewar American fascist who, in addition to writing sci-fi stories, had caught the attention of other American fascists with his

bulletin, America in danger. The Turner Diaries is a sci-fi novel. Yes. No, there is a massive undercurrent of fascism within the sci-fi community that's been there. Carolyn, so we're kind of fucking all of that. Yeah, it's been there since the 30s and 40s. Well, in this conspiracy late in publication, America in danger, Hudson blamed the Jews for every bad thing that ever happened in American history, including the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. No. And on the face future friend,

James Madole absorbed Hudson's writings, mixed it with sci-fi, and turned it into his own flavor of Nazi movement. Submanaging to somehow be a nerdy or fascist, then even Heinrich Hamler, James Madole formed a far-right political movement based in the sci-fi community called the animist party, which was announced in an issue of the pulp magazine Starling Stories. He did this in 1945, which is an admittedly balls in here to take to do this. I put out that fascism's

having a bad year, but I think that we can bring her back, boys. Let's go. Let's go. I actually thought

where they believe every object has a soul. I don't know why I called the animist party. I

“couldn't really find much information on what the animist party, because James Madole, like the”

all this information is out there, but he is kind, he's a bit of a forgotten figure in the neo-nazi movement. Good, but he is also shares a lot with the modern Nazis, you know, the modern far-right. And with the modern fake reactionary Satanist groups are doing too, like the O&A, and those guys. You know what? Also, that was been specifically disproved to be connected to my volcano. What, the O&A? Yeah, well let's not get into that. To var, yeah, yeah. I will talk

about the order of the angles. You want to talk about a rich, will you want to get into some ritual ideas? Really don't want to talk about it. Don't want to talk about it. Anyway, what's so out? It's about the different ways to look at Satan. Pretty soon, James Madole,

“pretty soon, James Madole. The trapezoids adore. The trapezoids are the way. Stop it.”

Pretty soon, James Madole dropped the animist party and joined forces with the German-American named Kurt Murtig, who founded a neo-nazi group after Hitler's death called the National Renaissance Party. And I didn't realize how horrible the name Kurt Murtig is. Kurt Murtig is a man. I didn't realize it at all. Yeah, but also it's great. I was going to take it away. What a great Nazi man. I thought you were stop talking about me. Actually, Murtig was a German-American. He had spent

the 30s, basically a Hitler fanboy. He was one of the founders, one of the first American Nazi

parties, a big figure. But the group that he founded, the National Renaissance Party, it was taken from one of the last things Hitler wrote, in which Hitler said that springing forth from his death would be, quote, "The seed of the radiate, the renaissance of the National Socialist movement." Yeah, and they died. But golf, I love the taste of bullets. Gosselin, not Petrodik's story. Oh, you tried this first.

Murtig was already an old man when he founded the NRP. So, future friend of Anton Vaj James Midal, he quickly took over as the leader of the National Renaissance Party in 1949. But with Midal in charge, the NRP began exploring science fiction's other half. Fantasy. Before, I prefer fantasizing.

“I mean, we're more of "I'm a fantasy guy, you're a sci-fi guy." That's how they'd get you.”

That's how they'd get you. We're so fat. We're not the Western. Before long, Midal was injecting the NRP with a cult ideas that were a mixture of the fantasy stories, Heinrich Kemler, picked up from German vulgar writers and the speculative fiction of pulp magazines. Midal began writing a cult political treatises with names like "The New Atlanta's, a blueprint for an Aryan Garden of Eden in North America." There's like five racist dog whistles

in that. And actually, skilled, how many different racist dog whistles are just in that one sentence? Yeah, there's a lot of guys that's going to see that go. Oh, I'll pick that up. Yeah, can we do it, Lannas is New Orleans. Don't discount Miami. They're in a fucking race to the bottom of the ocean. Midal predicted that once fascism took over and all the Jews and people of color were eliminated in America, the Aryan race would use its principles to take their

ideology to the stars. But in the real world, Midal was having a hard time putting his fantasy hierarchies into practice. Nobody except a few morons were listening to his ideas as he shouted them from the street corners of New York City. Some Midal took those morons and established what he called his security echelon. These were his street fighters. They were supposed to be his storm troopers. Midal and the security echelon would spend the next few decades harassing

people on the streets of New York City while dressed as storm troopers. Midal himself, he gave

speeches, but he always wore a fucking crash helmet because he got his ass kicked so much.

Besides the psychic damage they caused, they were relatively harmless in the physical realm. That changed, however, in 1963. During an incident that is ultimately called and I'm being totally serious here, it was called the white castle plot or the siege on white castle. I've done that before. Yeah. I've done a trench warfare inside of a white castle plot.

I think it was over there to stop the drive through. There's a whole movie about it.

“There's a whole movie about it. Yeah, that is about that. Yeah, and then I'm talking about the”

burger joint, white castle here. Oh yeah, I also will say, this is the type of shit. Let's just say. This is the type of stuff that made them not take the neo-Nazi super-series light. I think that's the problem. Is that the really work kind of cute for a while? Yeah, they were just kind of stupid. No, at this point I'm more scared or shredder in the foot glam. Yeah, I guess. It was bad. They're bad. Stupid Nazi as it was yellowed you and they were extremely unpopular. Yeah. Well, in July of 1963,

the Congress of racial equality, aka core, they were demonstrating against white castle restaurants in the Bronx over racially discriminatory hiring practices. So which is what's the core's good or bad? Good, good. Yeah. And were they only hiring white people? In the Bronx to work in white castle? Well, they're in time. They're in lies. The problem. It's different. It's also 1963, you know, the the racial makeup of New York City changed incredibly fast throughout like the the 50s,

“60s and 70s. So we're, I believe in 1963, I can't remember if Robert Moses had completely destroyed”

the Bronx just yet. Yeah. But we're getting there. Okay. It's either bright before, right after. But yes, you do bring up a good point. But it's a time transition in New York for New York City. Well, after James Modols, Neo Nazi National Renaissance Party heard about core protesting at the white castle restaurants in the Bronx. They arrived to counter protest and to literally defend the honor of white castle by the end. You can't even roll 100% backwards. Yeah.

All the managers of the white castle been like a bit of get about 1000 burgers out of that horse. Well, by the end of the white castle plot, eight members of the NRP were arrested, but not because they had valiantly battled the members of core at a fast food restaurant in the Bronx.

Instead, they were arrested because of their own incredible stupidity. See three members of

Modols in R.P. had gotten their asses kick by members of core at white castle. So they went to the 43rd precinct in the Bronx to report the assault. I got beat up. I just want to say, yes, we're, we are Nazis, yes. But we got hurt. They slapped us. Can you please, yes, we're Nazis, we're the most powerful evil force in the world. One of them called me home to get you mad at them. That's a racial storm. That's a racial attack. I mean, in the 60s,

the only place you're allowed to legally fight is the Bronx. Yeah. Well, while one detective took the Nazi statement, another went out to take a look at the truck, which the NRP had arrived,

because it was obviously a very suspicious situation. The second detective saw out in the open,

a fully loaded 22 revolver loaded tear gas guns, a crossbow loaded with a steel tip arrow, a butcher knife, a switchblade, a straight razor, and an axe. You're going to want to throw a blanket over that. But the arrogance of these guys, like, no, but we're white. We're the master race. See, these guys, these are cops. They understand. Well, let's just say, if you're the master issue, I'm on a master hiding all your crimes. Oh, Medell was picked up later that day,

charged with conspiracy incidents to two years in prison. But all that's just show you that the neo-nazis that ant on the vacant company with, they were a bunch of fucking morons. And, you know, today's alt-right pretty close to what Medell was like. They're specifically the really into Warhammer 40K. Unfortunately, they're big-dune fans. I know, I know. The current alt-right. Well, that's just because they just don't, they don't understand the actual sacrifice that

“lead to two mix. And that is actually the key. Again, it's lack of understanding. Yes, there are”

certain parts about it. But also, how in the fuck are you possibly a neo-nazis and anti-dude, and what's literally against the upper mention, the consent of the upper mention? Yes. Mitch McConnell looks like a Sandworm. We know that's part about the mixed McConnell. Is that hopefully soon, he'll be by a bunch of dirtworms. I've got to happen soon, right? You'll be dancing. Now, these are a lot of the guys that they love Star Trek. But they're like, the Darth Vader was

right. You know, they're the ones who love the Empire instead of the Rebels. They're really wrong. Yeah, and they all hate Star Trek because they'd say, you know, because Star Trek is too woke as they say. Darth Vader killed the Emperor. Yeah, Darth Vader didn't like being Darth Vader. You missed the whole fuck at that. You missed the whole fuck at that. You missed the whole fuck at that. Darth Vader hated, being Darth Vader who's upset. He was upset. He made it wrong. He made it wrong.

And he knew, and he only had your free was a staff. Can I? That's the whole idea to fucking

“film. Can I piss people off real quick? Yes, please. Return of the Jedi as the best Star Wars”

movie. Not you are new. No. I love Empire, obviously. I love Empire. And I mean, a new hope is easily the best. Yeah, it starts. It starts off again. Believe me, I still get that's a plot. It's a big plot. But all you want. There's supposed to be Wookiees. There's supposed to be they were, but also baby Wookiees. But I'm one of those. And Axis and allies when we play it,

I always play Axis. Yeah. All right. I'm one of those guys. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Even I get it.

No, it's understandable sometimes. You just shouldn't, you know, build your entire political philosophy around him. No, you're dumb. If you do that. And they're stupid. Now concerning Madole's friendship with Anton LeVe, it was mostly their hostility towards Christianity that aligned their movement with Satanist. That's the idea. By Kamler before him, Madole was looking for pre-Christian pagan sources of the so-called Aryan religion, which, of course, never existed.

But even so, his search for knowledge led him to Anton LeVe. Apparently, Madole and LeVe met frequently at the NRP office and at an occult bookstore in New York City called the Warlock Bookshop. They started meeting sometime in the 1970s. Madole thereafter erected a large satanic altar in his apartment and also played recordings of LeVe's black masses at several NRP meetings. Now, we don't know exactly what Madole and LeVe discussed. But a letter from 1974

does exist between Madole and a church of Satan member in which Madole asked if a small group of Satanists could help introduce NRP officers and members to, quote, "more advanced concepts of occult philosophy." Or from what it seems like, the NRP in the church of Satan, they were both fringe groups who were seen by society at large as evil. As one scholar of the far right put it, their corridor relationship was basically networking.

The hated, hobnobbing with the hated to see if they could gain something from one another.

One is always trying to use the other one and so nothing gets done.

There was another group of the order of the black ram that did something like this too. And so Antomovey wrote a letter to them which has always kind of been like the church of Satan's official stance which is this idea of like he wrote this letter being like, "We cannot join forces because Satanism does not choose allies. It chooses its allies carefully. But I will stand beside you in the fight against the church." Like, it's that style of horseshoe.

Yeah. Now the NRP is so old they're called the NNRP.

“It's pretty good. That's not bad. Yeah. I like it. That's what I hear alone.”

NRP died real quick after James Madole. Oh, of course.

So far as the fate of the NRP went, it died with James. When Madole succumbed to cancer in 1979,

his mother turned over all of the NRP's so-called records to a staunch French Canadian Madole Loyalus named John. John. Madole's mother handed over all the documents at the memorial service for her son in New York City. But John, perhaps distraught after attending his friend's funeral, he struck a concrete abutment in the highway while on his way home. John was killed instantly and the records Madole's mother had entrusted to John blew away like so much litter, thus ending

national Renaissance party within days of James Madole's death. That's what it really literally ended up as fucking New York City garbage. That's awesome. In 1979, just more shit in the street. I can see like his mom at the theater. I was like, I'm looking for James. Yeah, he's genius. Well, I know. You put that thing away from there. Oh, yeah, James left the message that I'm supposed to give you all these boxes, the full of his, it's this thing. That's

it's all the more thing I've ever seen in my life. Well, I'm going to take all. Now, from what I can tell, the 1970s truly were the last time the Antomovey had any fun

“with the Church of Satan. In 1980, the FBI and the Secret Service raided the Church of Satan's”

black house on Halloween. Choosing the date, I'm sure in an attempt to catch Levay doing something dirty. But the FBI did have a reason for being there because an informant had told the FBI that Antomovey was involved in a plot to murder Senator Ted Kennedy. See, this is the type of shit he got really sick of dealing with. Yeah. Well, from what I can tell, Levay was supposed to be the go between on the murder, delivering eight kilos of hash to a Chicago mafia boss as payment

for the hit on Senator Kennedy. The informant said that he himself was a member of the Church of Satan and he was actually planning to instigate a gunfight during the handoff that would have resulted in Levay's death. And hopefully in the death of the mobsters as well. And when the smoke cleared, the informant said that he was going to walk away with the drugs and walk straight into the

are unclear. The informant was coming to the FBI with all of this information instead. All of this

“information was of course utter and total horseshit. Of course, not even a single ounce of it was”

true. It's a great story. It's a really great story. It's a really great story. But the authorities having no idea what actually happened inside the Church of Satan. Of course not. They think it's evil. They think he's evil. They probably terrified. Oh, they think they're going against the devil himself. Yeah. They set up a massive operation to catch Anton Levay. The FBI, the Secret Service, the DA. They set up a blockade at Chicago's O'Hare Airport to meet all incoming flights in the days

preceding Halloween 1980. They were convinced that Levay was going to arrive any day with a briefcase

full of hash. Levay, of course, never did. Instead, when agents rated Levay's house on Halloween,

he was just sitting there hanging out. Yeah. He's an old man. Yeah. He told the FBI that he had the highest regard for Senator Kennedy and his family and that he would never have any involvement with drugs because he was morally opposed to them. That was actually the truth. He was morally opposed to drugs. He didn't do drugs. It's a city of the FBI showing up guns drawn, but there's actually

“just kind of sad. Yeah. Oh, wow. You should be more evil than this. In 1980, he's Anton Levay's”

50. Yeah. You know, he's 50 and get soaked in the drain. That is a battle. Watch a TV with the helmet. No shirt. God hang in there. Yeah. You're like fiddle fat. You're not going to have to make a fiddle fat. Part of the reason why the FBI might have taken the allegations to get about Anton Levay so seriously, because earlier that year, the book that kicked off the Satanic panic Michelle remembers was released and it was taken incredibly seriously. Now,

Michelle remembers claimed to be an autobiographical account of a woman who had been raised by Satanists who belonged to Anton Levay's Church of Satan. These Satanists have allegedly exposed this woman to Satanic ritual abuse so horrifying that she had repressed all the memories until a psychiatrist helped her recover them. Now again, it is all bullshit. Anything attached to the Satanic panic movement is not real. It is not real. There's not a single ounce of proof for

any of it in any way whatsoever. It should be called Michelle misremember. It really showed you. Let's get it back. Let's dig her up. I want to see your fucking bones. But Michelle and her psychiatrist,

they were fucking great talk show guests. They were amazing. So the Satanic panic began spread.

Then came the MacMartin preschool case in 1983, which featured 300 allegations of Satanic ritual abuse that were completely and totally unfounded. Again, not a single bit of evidence for any of it. Martin only resulted in wasted time, money and energy. But while no convictions were obtained,

“the trial lasted 7 fucking years. It ruined everybody's life. I believe it was the longest trial”

in California history. Maybe even one of the longest trials in American history and it attracted constant and frantic media coverage. So probably just took whatever money they had left. Everything did just train every beverages, drained every single person that was attached to it. It's one of the, it's just a fucking nothing but tragedy in pain. Every person involved in the MacMartin preschool. Like they were just people who ran a daycare. Yeah. And I was at the

just that they were like kids and they got caught up and all of this shit. And their lives were root hundreds of people had their lives around because MacMartin's just won. Yeah. It's one of dozens that happened all across the United States for 15 years, at least. Most often, the media cited with the prosecutors. And the church of Satan was often singled out as a main culprit. The new show 2020 made things even worse in 1985 when they accused Anton the vase Satanic

Bible of being responsible for America's supposed rash of child daycare ritual abuses. Are you slandering Barbara Walters? Yeah. If she was involved in this story, then I'd say that Barbara Walters was wrong. Barbara Walters. And it's that slander. It's an opinion. She was, she is wrong. And she had a big head in an attorney body. Barbara Walters. No, you'd think that Anton the vase would have had something to say about all this. But judging from his reaction, LaVay was all

but done with being the boogey man by 1985. And it's at this point in the story that Anton's

daughter, Zina, recipient of the world's first satanic baptism, returns. Obviously, also, we know

in order to sway the public because when she's not a Zina stretch, Zina's training many years ago. You're right, but Tina, but there's no Taylor Swift is going to make a fascist turn.

“She's going to destroy the world. And I just want you to remember that. I'm saying this right now.”

She's going to make a fascist turn. And we're going to have to probably sacrifice her. I just know that. I just keep your eyes open for that. Just, I know that. Just remember that. All right. Now, Zina was just 22 years old when 2020 ran the story, maligning the Church of Satan. But when she called her father, Anton, and asked him, "What's your media strategy for this?" He had nothing. As far as he was concerned, he didn't

have anything to worry about. And he certainly wasn't going to go out in the public to say anything. Yeah, he just rotted on the vine. Zina was rightfully convinced that the situation was only going to get worse if they didn't respond at all because silence could be seen as an admission of guilt. Or at the very least, you know, it left open speculation. And when speculation is open,

that's when lies start to come in. And that's when people start deciding what the truth is for

“themselves. Yeah, and this is also shit about child rape. Oh, shit. People are being arrested.”

Yeah, charged with crimes against children. This was absolutely something to take incredibly serious life. Yeah, to get in front of, you spent so long writing letters about like, some of the letters in this fucking book are about like them arguing about the enamel distributors that they got for the baffement, medallions, like shit like that. He was all over all of this shit. And then when it comes to this, he's just nowhere. But he's just gone.

He's defeated. Yeah. I mean, finally, Leve admitted to his daughter that he actually didn't have anyone to deal with interviews or media appearances anymore because Diane Hagarty co-founder of the Church of Satan. She was fucking gone by 1985. Oh, yeah. In 1984, after years of emotional and physical abuse, Diane Hagarty left Anton Leve. She claimed that he had screamed at her frequently, and it once knocked her unconscious with a headlock. All that started happening after he got

old, too. It was like, in the second, like, the latter half of their marriage, he seemed it seemed

to really ramp up. It definitely ramped up. I mean, it was known that he had anger problems last so privately. Yeah. But the 1984 split was the first time that these allegations were made public. They viewed him as like a prickly grump though. Like it was like that kind of thing. And then he just got angerier and meaner. Oh, according to Anton and Diane's grandson, the abuse against Diane had only grown in the last few years that they were together. In other words, Anton's

outward abuse seems to coincide with a realization in the early 1980s. This is as far as the ride was going to take him. He also didn't give a shit about what was happening in the outside world. That's the ECI. Yeah. Nor did he care what happened to anyone else as a result of the Satanic panic. Zina, however, she did care. So she offered to help as the Church of Spokesperson temporarily until Anton found someone permanent. This temporary Spokesperson role, however, would last

far longer than Zina wanted because Anton of A could be a very, very, lazy man. Nothing illustrates this principle more than the Church of Satan book because the all of the letters are from Diane. So all of the correspondence would like Anton would write letters when he was specifically kind of moved by something or whatever. But Diane was the one doing it all. Diane was micromanaging the newsletter. Diane was micromanaging all the different

grottoes of micromanaging, just man managing. With Michael, Michael, Athena, right? She was doing it

“every, she was doing every bit of it. I honestly feel like she was the one with most of the”

passionate opinions about things. And that Anton, because she'd speak on behalf of Anton, right? We'll be like, oh, Anton thinks this. But Bob, I think this. And she's like, no, you're just writing a letter. Yeah, and also like, Zina's like, you're dying, but this is the rest of my life. Yeah, now it's on me. And he's not even dying. He's like 54. He's 54 years old. He doesn't have any sort of like, not look good for 54. He looks very bad for 54, but he doesn't have

a terminal illness. He's just done. He's done with life. So as the Church of Satan's official Spokesperson, Zina appeared on every show from Phil Donnihue to Sally Jesse Raphael debating Christians while spreading the word about Satanism in an effort to put out some of the fires of the Satanic panic. Ironically, Zina's TV appearances caused membership numbers in the Church

of Satan to skyrocket throughout the 80s, which never would have been possible if all those

Christians hadn't made up all those stories about Satanic ritual abuse. Because she's a beautiful woman. And she made that perfect example. She was a very eloquent. Because also, if you look at all the pictures in this book, guess what it all is, ugly men, with incredibly hot women. It's the entire group. It's all you liked this so much. Yeah, buddy. That was the whole fucking point. The

Sure. So what's the deal? I mean, ugly girls had to have been Satanists too. I honestly

“very few because you know what part of it all thanked you. No, I would say, you know what's”

not about that. It's not ugly or pretty. It's feminine. The one of the Satanic principles is high masculinity, high femininity. So the women that you were to come to, there was like dress codes and there's other rules that we didn't get into in the actual nitty gritty of it. But he would say in it being like, if you're coming as a woman, I want to, I want him up, I want him to tits up, make up hair like it's the idea of, I want you high, high, high femininity. Yeah. Sure. All right.

All right. Tell me truth. Yeah. All right, Satan. Whatever you say, Satan. Hey, I mean, and the guys are to wear suits. Well, yeah, because your fame is for your suits. It's different now. Now, I'm not doing it. I'm not going to a house, but I'm trying to wear more suits, I'm going to wear stuff. Well, as it turned out, Zena was actually one of the people who helped put the Satanic panic to bed. She worked with law enforcement agencies to set the record straight,

because before Zena opened the books, so to speak, law enforcement knew next to nothing about actual Satanism. For the cops, they'd watch the devil's reign and think it was real, which is like scientists basing theories of time travel solely on back to the future. But thanks in part, Zena, the FBI issued a report in 1992, refuting all the criminal conspiracy theories concerning satanic ritual abuse. But by 1992, Zena had already resigned from the Church of Satan and had

renounced her dickhead father two years earlier, because while Anton the Bay still wasn't what you'd call a good guy during the 60s and 70s, he became an absolute piece of shit in the 80s and 90s. And so, by 1990, all of the people who'd been with Anton the Bay in the Church of Satan's heyday, they were gone. Dian had left six years earlier. Mylachino had left 15 years earlier, and after Zena's dust up with her father, she'd left Levian's satanism for who else,

but Mylachino's temple of set. Oh man, the game I had immediately became a high priestess in the temple of set, became one of the people that ran it, a big fuck you to death. Oh my god, you can't almost love that. Oh, he stole the whole thing. He stole the whole crew. He stole the head of the Lilith Grotto. He stole the head of the Yucketh crew. He stole the head of the Babylon crew.

“He stole every important statinist. Now, a lot of suits over the ownership of the Church of Satan”

and all of its properties, they lasted throughout the 80s. It was between Anton the Bay and Dian Hagarchi, but when Levian was summoned to court over a restraining order, filed by Dian Hagarchi in 1984, Levian claimed to have taken revenge on the world using magic. He said that he wrote a letter, announcing his magical intention for all hell to break loose when he got the summons. And sure enough, at the very hour that Levian was supposed to be in front of the judge in San Francisco,

tragedy struck nine hours south in the California town of San Yesidro. This was the day of the

infamous McDonald's massacre, which was one of America's first major mass shootings.

Sure, it was crazy. Yeah. A man named and we're going to do a full series on this. It's a fucking fascinating story. But a man named James Huberti opened fire on a McDonald's with a machine gun killing 22 and wounding 19 more. Levian, however, believed that the similarity between Dian's last name, Hagarchi and the shooters, Huberti, that was an acquaintance. So he took credit for causing the massacre with his magic spells. Yeah, it is interesting. When you're in the magic world,

“this is not a stretch. This is a huge stretch. It was flailing. Yeah, I mean, he's the only thing”

that the name shares that they start with an H and with a wife. There are other coincidences

and Anton Levez life that are incredible. No, but now he's trying. Now he's he's reaching. He's

obviously losing his touch in every way. And it doesn't in there. In 1984, when Anton was 54 years old, he entered into a relationship with a 17 year old girl named Blanch Barton, who'd written him a letter from college. The two of them immediately got in a sex magic, BDSM, and quite a bit of piss. All while Anton was still married, Dian. When you're old, that's the last thing to go. It's like, come on, you weren't going to do that. What's saying we did is Junior,

but you're going to do it now at the end of your life and ruin your marriage. What are you talking to? You know what, though? But if you look at it, it gets exactly the problem. It's that it's a rested development. This is an example of him trying to dial back the clock and thinking that he can regain something else. Like, how many times do we see an old man

how old it goes. Well, after Dian left Blanch Barton stuck around and eventually wrote Anton the vase

“official biography. It is absolutely filled with easily disproven lives. But Barton still repeats”

these lies and every interview she gives as if they were gospel truths, including an interview I saw in the special features on the Devil's Rain Blu-ray disc. Like, she's to this day, man. But for all his former infamy, Anton the vase simply faded into the background of American culture in the last decades of his life. Even though he died in 1997, his last notable appearance

in the public eye had been 10 years earlier after the arrest of serial killer Richard Ramirez,

who is, of course, a committed, Theistic Satanist. Oh, yeah. He's own batch. Yeah, yeah, his, he's a, let's call it bespoke Satanism. Yeah, boutique. Yeah. See, before Ramirez had killed anyone, he'd driven to San Francisco, so he could meet and talk with Anton the vase. Reportedly, Ramirez stopped Anton in the street and politely asked if they could chat about Satanism for just a few minutes. Lavae, however, brushed Ramirez off and told him to write a letter instead.

It's probably because he smelled like shit. Look like a fucking chupacabra.

I could tell, exactly. You know Richard Ramirez. So him going like, hey, man, you want to fact, want to talk about seeing when you for a while and he's looking at him and just being like, I'm behind his abilities and he's like, you're not a hot chick. Yeah, I'll see you later.

“Need to get out of here. Write me a letter. You should have been nice to him because there's some”

lives. Well, I don't think he would. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah. No, with Richard Ramirez. Yeah. No, with Richard Ramirez, because as soon as Richard Ramirez returns to that sweet, sweet mainline cocaine, it's all over from there. It's much more like mainlining cocaine than it is the Satan. When it comes to Richard Ramirez, that's really what drove. He can't straighten the mouth. Cocaine's bad in the face. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Well, Ramirez apologized for bothering Leve. He wished him a happy solstice and walked away. But after Ramirez was arrested and branded as the most evil serial killer in American history, and on the vase on opportunity to press that outrage button one more time. When the press reached Anton Vive for comment about Richard Ramirez, Leve said that Richard was quote, but nice is most polite young man. Get evil want to meet. And I guess to Anton Vive, he was. He was in that moment. He wasn't

killing him and his wife. I didn't. I couldn't point you in. It wasn't scooping the rise out. I was making him on the dress. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He just wanted to tension so fucking bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's so interesting that the, the, the satanic panic really, like it should have been his moment. Yeah. You know, like that, well, that it really should have been his moment to shine to come out. I mean, Zina took the mantle and she made it happen. But that should have been his, you know, his moment. But I think really what I think it is. I think Diane was the one who got him out of the house. Yeah.

She, and without her, he's just some lazy fuck that doesn't feel that I get to it tomorrow. I don't think he's intelligent enough. Well, it's not, you know what? It's not about him. I actually think he's quite intelligent. It's self-conscious and unable to change. That is his main issue. He purposely froze himself in place. When you, you have a responsibility as a fucking wizard. Like I know he thinks ridiculous to say, he had a responsibility. He looked on what Alistair Crowley did. And he looked at Helena Babotsky. He'll get all these things in and they all fail. They all each shit. And the reason why they all fail in each shit is because instead of what I was saying in the beginning, becoming Gandalf the white.

Getting rid of the old you. Becoming the new you. The first half of your life has spent changing the world. The second half of your life should be spent having the world change you because you are now in it. You've done it. You've made your mark.

“Now it's like, where does my mark go? How can this come back and change me? And then how can I be here for all of you? Because I set this up. So I am responsible for this fucking thing. That's how I view it.”

These should be like, I'm responsible for the church of Satan. I'm there to save it. I'm going to end it or do whatever I want with it. But it's mine. And I'm going to protect it. And I'm going to do what needs to be done to protect it. And I'm going to advance it. I'm going to do all these things. But he just didn't do it. And it led to his demise. Yeah. That's why I'm enjoying. Please jazz album. Yeah. It's really good. I love it. Oh well. Now unfortunately, the end of Anton the Bay's life was pretty much defined by his legal fights with Diane Hogarty, who even filed restraining orders

But a friend of Levez bought the black house from Diane and he allowed Anton to finish out his years

amongst the remains of his former groovy life. Because that's how Anton Levez existed at the, he existed at the allowance of other people. Yeah, didn't care. By the 90s, Levez stopped doing interviews. And was hospitalized time and again in the last six months of his life. He died on October 29, 1997 of respiratory failure. But Levez had arranged for his death certificate to say that he had died on October 31st, Halloween, proving even with his death that it was his belief that there was no

reason why the truth should get in the way of a good story. God damn. And there's lessons to be learned here, man. Yeah, there's a lot of lessons to be learned. There's a lot of lessons. I think

“that's why it's so even important that we did this series in that way. Because it's like, I want to”

expand as I get older. I do not want to narrow. I want to get better. I want to get better as I

get older. I want to be the best I've ever been by the time I'm 75. Yeah, when I find I'm 75, I want to have like taken all lessons that I've learned and tried to try to do something else with it. And I feel like these stories are important to hear because yeah, they went, made their mark on a world, but then they just left it at that. Well, the difference is you have a quest for knowledge. He thought that everything he thought was gospel. Yes. And then it was done. Yeah. And then the thoughts were

done. And you know, he and he could have done so in 1980, he could have come right out after Michelle remembers his release and said, no. And he could have opened up the church estate in the world. He could have showed people like everybody like, look, look, it's a fucking social club. We do magic rituals that are kind of magic, but not really. Yeah. All the shit that they're saying isn't true. And he could have headed the fucking satanic panic off at the past. Oh, you've been looking at the

main tenants as we don't fuck kids. We don't fucking rape anybody. We don't do that. He could have done that. And the thing is that the satanic panic was partly caused by him founding the church

“of Satan. Yeah. Oh, he did it. He did it. Yeah. That's what I mean. He was responsible. He was”

responsible and he completely and totally left all responsibility to everybody else. It's so weird because he like championed the life of like adversity. But then the moment conflict shows up, he just gives up. Yeah. That is an example of of what we got like, I've been saying this for a little bit about how like good guys got a beat bad guys, right? Good guys got a win. Satanism's supposed to give you that edge. That is what nice. And that's what I'm taking on to it and reminding

myself all the time. It is about the independent, wild spirit inside of humanity that wants us to be free. And there is something about that that I try to remember at all times. And then every single time these kind of forces want you to choose one thing or another's like fuck it. I'm a free. I'm free. Like you can't make me choose. And so I think that if I'm going to keep that and keep changing and

“going and then use that aggressiveness to fight people, I don't like that are legitimately bad guys.”

I will fight the bad guys to have to. Got to. Yeah. Petra and calm slash last podcast on the left is where you can go see our stream and support us financially directly. You can also watch us on Netflix. We have all of our episodes newly recorded up on Netflix itself. And you can follow us on all of the bullshit socials at LP on the left, TikTok and Instagram. See all the ones we got. It's all done. It's all done. It's all done. We will have. We got to accept. We are on

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It's got man. I'm fucking. This has been such an amazing show. I'm so happy. So happy this and like

it is ending. It is time for put this baby to bed. And I can't wait to move on to something else with you boys. And I love it. But I'm going to miss it. I'm going to miss it too. But come on out and see, see this show because after after Oklahoma City, I am not going to be back out on the road for a good long while because my brain is about to fall out of my ass. But Eddie and I will be shook on our fat asses across this goddamn country, making a laugh anywhere you'll allow us.

And also go to available our new show, Eddie and I movie stories on Series 6 on podcast plus. And the video is on Patreon every Thursday. So if you join the Patreon, you can see it on there as well. Yeah, that's right. Also, I'm Henry and I got a new show on October 24th. Side stories at the material community center. We're going back to fucking, um, we're coming to humble for Halloween. Yeah, I'm not coming long on that one.

That's going to be a blast. Madam, I'm smoking weed again.

Oh, you're going to like this. We do. We're going to do a, we're going to announce that, but

“we're going to make, we're going to really beef that up. I don't know what we're going to do with”

that show, but we're doing something Halloween with it.

Yeah, make sure you show up and costume like you did last year. You all look fucking amazing.

It was awesome. That's such a good time. And then I'm also, I'm not taking the break that

“Marcus has taken. I'm taking the full 22 hours off, but then on July 19th, I'll be in Plano, Texas.”

Oh, my god. Yeah, and all those mother fuckers. It's a good fight. Yeah, and I got lots of cities on my schedule. So good at edetunes.com. If

you want to come see me live and do my stand-up show. Phoenix was amazing. Thank you to everyone who came out.

Yeah, that Plano club's great. Like I said, that's where I saw him at Chad Burke when I was in college. Fuck, yes. Yeah. It's a talk. It's cool. Hey, Lane. All right. I love you guys. Oh, HGX2. Watch it. The finals were last night. I hope you fucking loved it. The whole things available.

“Season two of HGX2. I told you. Yes. What are you talking about? What?”

What? Tell the rock in your wife. You didn't do rock, you fucking white bitch man. I beat

our beater with my hands. We love you guys. We'll see you next week. Hell Satan. Oh no, Gene. Hell Zena. I like her. No, she's interesting. Is that anything better? No, I didn't. There's a lot. Yeah, there was a Nazi thing. Oh, well, fuck Zena. Let's say, I mean, come on. It's obvious. Our man Sammy. Hell Sammy. Yeah. Yeah. You can also probably just give shrimp. Satan's got nothing to do with anything.

You held them already. I know. Hell on him again. Yeah. You don't need that. It was just hanging out. Whatever. No, nothing for Taylor. Taylor Swift's an Aryan to fucking evil. General. It's just Sammy. Come on Sammy. It's a Sammy. David, excuse me. Yeah, it's just, it's a hell Sammy. I'm going to say, Hail Cogman. Hail Jack Cogman. Me, Cogman. Me, Cogman.