Last Interview on the Left: Matt Bettinelli-Olpin & Tyler Gillett - Ready or Not 2: Here I Come

All right, today we are joined by a directing team.

We're joined by the directed team of Matt Bettenelli open and Tyler Gillette. The men behind radio silence, you've seen their movies. You've seen ready or not. You've seen scream five, scream six, Abigail, that will do. And you are gonna see on March 20th, their new movie, ready or not to.

We're here with the radio silence boys, how you doing, Matt and Tyler. Hey. Yes. So extremely excited to be here. I know we said this earlier, but like, my God. That's not the same. Yeah, it's a Korean version. Yeah, a Korean version.

“Yeah, it's a Japanese version. So what made you fans of us?”

[LAUGHTER] How long you got? Where do we begin? Yeah, where do we begin? You know, when we used to do our own shorts, I'm not even kidding.

And we used to do shorts and we drive up to like a long-hine.

We would listen to your guys' episodes. The whole way. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. We'll talk about it. Okay. And then I can comfortably ask. Because we talked about this. We want to keep this light. We want to keep this fun. But would you feel that your entrance

into the major Hollywood system has given you information that you're trying to disseminate through your pop culture films in a way that we would find entertaining and not frightening due to the truth of the information that you hold. Yes, they're warning us. Yeah, we're just going crazy.

[LAUGHTER] Interesting. You're going to get us killed. Are you excited that there's two of you? That way, if one of you mysteriously has a heart attack after this comes out, they can't do it to both of you.

Yes, we wouldn't. The radio silence legacy will continue on. Honestly, how long game we've been planning? If your was a way for the government to leave your bodies, how would you want that?

“Honestly, how would you choose the government to kill you both?”

Oh, man. I want to be founded like a fountain of a shopping mall. Like a busy shopping. Okay. Yeah. No, we can have you fall through the skylight to make sure that it's that fun. At the busiest time of the holiday season,

you fall through the skylight. Then into the middle five. Yeah. Yeah. And of course, a little girl must scream. Matt, how do you want to die? [LAUGHTER] Yeah, by the government, by the government.

Oh, boy, geez. Could it be one of those things where it's like, there's a bunch of versions of it. So there's a bunch of conspiracy theories. I hope it comes. One of those is he dead things? You're poisoned. You're shot. We're hung by the you're hung from the seal. Yeah, you're electrocuted. Yeah.

Yeah. It like different countries and so there's a bunch of mystery. His suicide note was just the letter. Why? [LAUGHTER] I'm just no, I will make sure it ends up. I will make sure your penis is preserved in Femaldehyde.

For the right time. I didn't want to ask. Like, the moody museums are already on the line. Oh, it's great. We're going to have it there for you. They're desperate for cock.

“So let me ask you guys, how much? Why do you hate the rich so much?”

True. Yeah. Because obviously, I'm looking at your home. No, it's weird. You and I, you and I. [LAUGHTER] Yeah, I'm so jealous of desperate climb to reach that.

It's very odd how critical we are, right?

[LAUGHTER] Yeah, but wait. I mean, because the ready or not films, like both of them, are definitely like criticisms on the rich and how they play with the, I mean, we're doing a series on the, like, where we're working on series on the Deponse right now. And, you know, the Depont Fox catcher murder was very much just a man

playing with the lives of those that they see below them. Like, what is it about that with the ready or not films that you guys, you know, wanted to bring to the forefront? Abigail, too. And Abigail, as well, yeah. Yeah, Abigail is a lot of it.

It's, I think it's something that, it just, I mean, it's, unfortunately, just a true is on, it's just, it's an evergreen truth that the rich will take advantage of everybody else, right? At the end of the day. No, and I think. Yeah, that a long enough timeline. If you've achieved that level of success, there's no way that you've avoided exploiting somebody or something on the path to that.

It's just, it's just, it's just not, that's just how the world operates, unfortunately. Yeah, so you have no grace for good billionaires. Don't even, are there good billionaires? Are there good billionaires? Do you not have any empathy for billionaires? Do you think of how much pressure it is to give it all away?

Yeah, the ones that give it all a little bit. I mean, come on, did you see how concerned Bill Gates was about his wife's STA?

Do, what's the current? That's basically. I think seven. Yeah, the running talent. She must have so much fun throwing his money into every single place.

“But like, she must, that's what he applies to. That's fine.”

Yeah, I think, she's like, this is, this is one billion to keep men bald.

This is, this is, the anti-biatic emissions has the last podcast got me of that McKinsey Scott Do, and she kicked it over your way, guys. Oh, we haven't, have we? Obviously, you could see I had my kids enhanced. I have it all on this body, as we constructed, there, this is no way. No one would choose this naturally. This doesn't happen naturally.

It is interesting to see in horror movies how it mirror society a lot of times. And I feel like you guys are really hitting that nail on the head. Did you grow up wealthy? How do you know so much about these societies? You know, I, it's funny. I actually had a brushed with it when I was a teenager. One of my really good friends who I was in a band with for a lot of years was Daniel Stillson.

And it was a, it was a very funny, I was like, in a punk man, just a bunch of scrappy kids. And then our singer was Daniel Stillson. And, you know, and he was a lovely, wonderful person who was like one of my best friends. And, but it was a weird toe dip into, I live in Oakland. I'm up in my parents' house actually right now. And he doesn't say, we're Cisco. And it was a weird toe dip into this entire other world that, you know, I don't think most of us are familiar with. Daniel Still's the author.

The author. Yeah. Do you think, yeah, her son was this guy Nick and he was, he was wonderful. And he, but, but, and he was really, it was complicated, right? It was like a complicated relationship with this wealth and yeah. We didn't know that he was her, he, he joined a band. We were kids. I mean, we were like teenagers and he joined a band.

“I think when we were like maybe 16 or something. And it was at least probably, I mean, it felt like forever as a kid.”

But it was probably like six months before we even knew that his mom was Daniel Still. But there were like weird tales where like someone would drop him off at practice. And there was like a car phone. This is like in the 90s. Yeah. So it was like, what? You have a car phone? Do you feel like you're going to give him extra room to just be something extra and something special that it was harder for somebody like you? What's weird? I mean, again, I, I could go on about this forever because he's probably one of the most charismatic

talented people I ever knew. And he had this, and he had this like real, um, I, there's a duality that was obvious all the time, where he was, he had this life that was different than the life that we all kind of lived with him. I mean, we just did it like normal, like in a van with a bunch of guys sleeping on floors. And then he'd come home and he had a different life. And but he was, he was, it's like we were saying a second ago.

He was always very conflicted about it. And it was, it was kind of embarrassed in the way that a teenager is embarrassed about anything

that they're not comfortable with around their friends. Um, yeah, I don't know if that answers the question. But yeah, it was weird. I'm just going down memory lane now. No, no, this is a, uh, and this is a great, actually a great no dogs in space, Mom, or where we get to have that little trivia, the lead singer of Link 80 was Daniel still still son. That's incredible. I didn't, yes. I didn't know that because yeah, you guys were the, y'all were the first band signed to Asian man records, right? That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

you got a little bit of punk, so like in that, what like, have you ever thought about like using that punk past to kind of

“make a like green room style like punk horror movie? I mean, we've talked about it a lot, right?”

I don't know, like there's been a lot of, yeah, it's, it's such a, fucking rad, some culture and a world to live in, especially in the 90s. It was so, like special,

and at least it felt like that to me at the time. And, but you're always the entire experience is you're

going to like the worst places in, with like the scariest people who you've never met before, and they're like, let's play songs and run into each other and jump on each other for a few hours, and then go to somebody's random house in the backwood somewhere to do whatever shit we're going to get into every, every turn in that feels like there's an on-ramp to some great movie. Yeah, but that's sort of banned past. I mean, that's very much built into like just how, you know, the two of us work. Like it's,

you know, we were a band five when we started out and, and now we're just a sort of shitty old duet, but like the empty house of this, like, you know, like, normally the opposite, normally they start as a hot duet and then all of a sudden there's like a horn section, you know, we started with the horn section and now we're down to like some ukulele.

and we want everyone to just play their instrument as loud as possible, and, and I mean, it's,

it's, we, it's very, very similar in, you know, in its process to just play with your buds. Yeah, do you ever look at the directors who direct movies alone and think that they're Trump's who work too hard? Two. Yes. Yes. Yeah, but, Simon, you're so pretty friendly. They're just on an island alone with their anxiety. Fuck that. We are, our, our buds who are our directors. We talked to of them about it, and there's a, there's a, there's a very consistent, from everything, like,

oh, wait, one of you can just go like, to the bathroom during the day with a fire. Yeah, it's not like I got eyes on, I got eyes on Tyler. He's going into the bathroom. It's just a, hey, man, I'll be right back. To the, to the moment, the moment thing of like,

hey, this isn't working. How do we get through this? And it's so nice to not be stuck in

“some world where you have to believe you have all the answers and they have to be perfect”

to have that relationship where we can just be like, I don't think this is working. What do we do? And in the moment, you know, like a sport or like a band just kind of get through it together, it, it makes out of the different line about it. And it probably also helped to spread the success and fail year to two. You mean like, it can't, you know, because I'm just hurting that you walk away. You and you have a massive success. One of you walks away and was like, thank God, he has me.

You know, like, I don't like one of our favorite things to do is to go on Amazon and read, like, for for something that we've made and read the worst reviews. That's no fun to do by yourself. It's only fun if you can like, scream, grab it and send it, send it to your friend. Is there one that like really stands out in your mind that like actually that was very clever? Oh, shit. I'm going to leave, pulse it up and read up. We can do it.

Don't give him a name. Don't give him a name. Don't fucking give him a name. You guys ever commiserate with the Philippe pro brothers? Do you know them at all?

You ever talk about being directing duos? No, we never, yeah, I haven't met them.

There's, it's actually it's a small group of people when the DJ occasionally puts on these events and all the co-directors end up sitting at the same table and it's a small, it's a small film. It's the kid's table. It's the outcast. Yeah. And you all look down on by the rest of the DJ. You know, it's like, like, filling, you know, Phil Lord and Chris Miller. I mean, like, good, fuck, like, great people, great directors, but we're all, we're all the stepkids.

“Do you think that's what happened to the co-in brothers? Is they were so sick of that fucking table?”

Yeah, we, they were never at our table weirdly enough. Get them at separate tables, just to get them back together. We, they, they do, the president of the DJ one year did come up to us at our table. And I remember it was like, a Kiva and Yorma from Lonely Island and us, and I think Chris and Phil, but they were just, they straight up said, so it's like a half a brain each. How does this work?

You're like, why do you need excitement? We're both going to attack you. That's how it works. I actually, I have a technical question. I, because ready or not, Abigail, these are, a lot of it has really, really intense, awesome action pieces. What do I think are probably the hardest thing is like, stunt action things are probably one of the hardest things you shoot. Right, when you, when you're going through this, when you're building these things out,

how specific are you in the script versus it changing as you go on the day? Like, all of the things that tomorrow we've been going through and ready or not, is all of that fully scripted or are you also playing things by ear and changing things as you go?

“It's always pretty loose. I mean, I think you, you have to have a, you know, somewhat of a”

blueprint. There has to be some specificity so you can design the set and, you know, get every, all of the ingredients for the sequence have to sort of show up. And so that, that has to be present in the script. But like with ready or not, too, I mean, we were, we were moving so fast and flying so by the seat of our pants with a sequel that we knew, you know, the sort of broad strokes of how the thing was going to start and like what, how it had to conclude and what that

had to sort of mean emotionally for the characters. But within that, if you've got a great stunt team that is really good at improvising, I mean, it's like watching and he's sort of great, you know, a performer and provides. They, you sort of look at the set and what you have and oh, we've got these things are all break away and, and the brainstorm in the, you know, in the moment of, well, shit, let's throw this person through this and it's, it's one of the most fun

things because it is, it is so alive. And I mean, the only big stunt things that have to ever feel

people up into the sky. And, you know, why are workings that require real rigging and, and there's real danger? You know, you just have to pre-meditate all of that. But the fight stuff, man, it's, it's really fun to watch. And by the way, to throw at a cast member, like, hey, we know you rehearse

this, what if we do this? It's amazing to see how, you know, the most of the fighting in our movies,

you know, it's not like John Wick shit. You're watching people like, you know, in a bar fight, basically, that's the kind of action that we, that we love. And that stuff, like, it lends itself to this very improvisational and a style. But it is a hard stuff to shoot, man. So we're weaving some fucking star. And she's also one of those people. She sells the physical acting of a, because, like, normally, you got these like skinny, leading ladies. They don't look like they can't kill people.

They can't kill fucking people. So, Mara, I believe you can't kill people. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, did you know that she had that gut, like her guteral primal scream is one of the best in the business. Did you know that she could do that before you got her on set? No, we had no clue.

When she did that the first time I remember us being, it was very early, because we shot,

we shot the end of the first writing or not first. It was all in the first week. And when she did her, she, like, rolls off the table and does, like, ah, springyms, and that, that was the first time we heard it. And it was like, oh my God, what everybody on set was like, yeah, yeah. And then when we went into this movie, so the sequel, we definitely, that was a thing we were like, where is the right moment for this? And we found, we found a really good one

that we were like, oh, yeah, that's, that's when this has to happen. Because you can't overuse it.

“No, we can't make it. Yeah, we have to, like, save it. You have to be, like, just as you're waiting”

for this. It's like, we're waiting for like that special part of a song. But Sam's a unicorn. I think when her superpowers is like, she is one of the most beautiful human beings you'll ever see, but there's zero vanity in the way that she approaches like every moment of her life. She's so gross and silly and isn't afraid to like fuck up and be weird. And you know, there's, there's, she's fearless. And, and you need that for, for that character, very specifically.

You're saying, she's, so in other words, she's Australian. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, totally. More, I remember I met Margot Robbie and she was like, that she'd like burp and spit and then go like, sorry, that might like do that. And you're like, I'm gay. You're literally, you could do anything. You can do anything. I love you. When you want it's the best. There's actually a moment and right you're at two where Sam was like, I want to spit at the end of this. Is that cool? We're like,

absolutely. Please, we're talking a big lucky. Yeah, I'm ready. You're not to, it's, I like, we got to see it. It's such incredibly fun movie. It's a lot of fun, man. It's such a great time. It's so much fun. Just as good as the first one. But like, I mean, you guys, like, one of the things that I love about Yel's movies is that you're, since a pacing is so fucking good. Like, you really know how to pay some movie. So like, when you approach a movie like as directors,

do you all see yourselves as like primarily like horror directors or action directors? Because you're all just, action, you're so fucking good at it. Thanks, man. Yeah, thank you. I mean,

“I, you know, it's like, it's, we never like think about it too specifically. Because I think the”

way we came up, it's like, like, we've both like raised on to five lights on. You know, like, that was like the touchstone that started everything for us. And so it was sort of like, we love genre stuff. We love sci-fi, we love horror, we love action, we love adventure. And so like when we first started working together, a lot of our stuff would kind of dip into, it would be like one little 10 minute short would be sci-fi, horror, and adventure, all kind of mixed up together. And then we

just take in that with us because it's like, we feel weird when something's not edging towards scary. We feel weird when something's not edging towards action. And we also feel weird when it's like lacking

emotion. Because that's kind of what we always tie everything together with is how do you get,

you know, someone like Samara at the center of this that can kind of ground all of the action, all of the horror, all of the emotion and make it feel like it's cohesive and one thing is always sort of the goal. But it's, it's a bit of, we love it all and we get to play, you know, kind of

“for a living now, which is incredible. So it's this, how can we, how can we make this more action?”

How can we make this more scary? I mean, that's the conversation we have, I think all the time. It's like, let's lean harder this direction or that direction. Yeah, it's so fun to like have a grab bag of tricks, right? Like you don't and tropes to play with. All of those little sub-genres, they have, they have little, little dials that you can turn at different moments. And so it,

surprise, surprise the audience. And that's the movie that we grew up on, did that so effortlessly.

And it feels like, you know, I mean, we could go on and on about how the business and distribution has changed, the how niche things have become because of streaming. Like, we love, like, you know, Terminator and Aliens and like those movies that felt like they could do all of these things. And, and it all felt so, so effortlessly. And it was because, you know, these were big ideas that were being made for huge audiences for everybody to see. Instead of just one person interested in, like,

robots sitting on their couch, you know, in their, in their house. And that's the, we have a real muscle memory for, for those, for those types of movies. And, and I really just trying to, like, replicate the feeling of that and the stuff that we make. Yeah, man, going to the theaters,

“fucking awesome. I love it so much. Your movie comes out on March 20th, correct?”

Right here, not you. Yeah, dude. So make sure you go out and see that movie to theater. It's big, fucking action movie, big horror movie. You guys are going to love it. I'm sure it's going to be

amazing. But, um, I gotta ask about, like, oh, I thought you were going to hardcore. Do we

were talking about Gaza now, right? Yeah. You're now, it's a hardcore. You get a lot of, uh, you said it might put your knife. Yeah. Yeah. Not Gaza. But I, I'm, I'm, I'm excited when you see this, because obviously we want all want the movie theaters to survive. I go to the movies at least once a week. We want everything to be, you know, be great. Now, when you're, when everything that's going on in the news right now, with the files coming out, are you looking at this and be like, we can't buy this

type of publicity. Oh, I will say, shocking disappointing. How top of it. Yes. The movies that we make have become. And sad how unsurprising it is. Yeah. But the weird thing that we saw bubble up when they released the new trailer was that, that this is Hollywood,

“conditioning people to be, Henry, I believe you were circling this at the beginning,”

conditioning, circling this to the idea. I'm sorry. Uh, I believe I just said it out. Right. Do the Adomas family represent any particular family? Do you have an inspiration? Oh, man, you weren't really trying to make a step in it. Uh, oh, yeah, oh, the family. Oh, it's, but it's the fun of like living in this sort of heightened world of these billionaires. Is it, it feels like you can, you can sort of be broad and specific at the same time. And, you know,

it also, I mean, it's, it's fun to like look at a class that is so out of reach for for everyone that isn't in it that you, you can just, like you, you can dream up the wackiest thing and it's probably not that wacky. And I think that was really the compass, like then the sort of guiding light for us on both of these movies was, well, fuck, we don't know, like let's, what's the craziest rich people shit you can, you could think of. And, um, yeah, just bum, bummed that some of it.

Real some of it's real. Yeah, yeah, when you talk, when you go into these executives offices, this is one of my favorite phenomena in this whole new awareness that we're getting as a country right now, I guess, which is you get to go into these very, very powerful people's rooms, the most elite of the entertainment industry, and you pitch these things, what are the looks on their faces? Like when you say like, so this is when they systematically murder all of the rich people,

and are they just sitting there just going like, that is simply fantasy. Like what a wonderful trip down a dream world that cannot happen. Like, do you think that, like, how do they react

“to those rooms, like, in being in that world? I, I am actually, I think we're surprised that how”

much everybody's always into it. You know, always feels like I think there's a self-awareness,

yeah, and a willingness to kind of, did it hold up a mirror and could they better? I mean, I feel like when I watched the, um, the hump that came out recently in my college showed, like, bloodthirsty Democrats, you know, I was like, there's a lot of fun. Sure, but it's not a great time with this, you know, and so I, I'm, I'm enjoying this, but you guys really, not only do you focus on the rich, you focus on Satan, yes, and, uh, and so, so Satan is a big part of your thing, and Satanism,

are, are you all Satanists? Do you, do you dabble? Uh, I was raised Catholic. No, I was raised Catholic too,

notice that you slipped the satanic version of Hallelujah and the right ear. I, I, I heard it. I was gonna ask what do my baby say because it's one, it's, there's, and there's a lot of, in this, it was funny, there's a lot of conversations when we were going, you know, going in, like, pre-production where we went back and we looked at, there's this thing that the studios do, where they do a toe dip with, uh, critics, and so before the movies even finish, they show,

like, a dozen critics and then they tell you how your community is. It's the one. They tell you how it's shitty and then you're just kind of bum for a few weeks until you totally forget about it, which is happened in both, I'm both of these movies, and we went back when we're making this and

looked at what the critics said about the first movie, and like the number one headline was

all the satan stuff is awful and horrible and needs to go. We don't say satan, so, yeah, and then, and it was quite, it was, it for us, we were like, well, they're gonna hate this next one,

“because it's so much harder, it goes so fucking hard, the satanism, and I love that, that's what I”

love so much about because I'm a huge fan, like some of my favorite horror movies are the 70s Hammer Horror Films that really dig into the, like, the satanism, like, was this movie, like, ready or not to, was it inspired by movies like, you know, Devil's Rain to the Devil a Daughter, like, where there, you know, there's these cabals lurking in the background. I mean, all of it, we talked a lot about, uh, and I think it maybe had to do with having come off

of Abigail, because we talked a lot about, like, the Christopher Lee stuff, yeah, where it's just so

gothic, and it's so, there's such a vibe, and our thing on this was the lidomuses in the first one

are, like, low rent amateur versions of satinist kind of, like, pretending, because maybe they saw a movie once, and they put on a stupid fucking robe, and so at the point we were watching it in the movie, and the first one, he's like, oh, it was the 80s, it was like the first thing he does. They're playing, they believe, it's like when you hear, like, how the mob watched the godfather, and we're like, oh, we're gonna do that. That's a new thing. Yeah. And then for this one,

we were like, yeah, but what if these guys are good at it? Like, what if they're, they've got a cool temple, and they've got the real robes, and they like, got the real goat pit, and all this kind of fun stuff. So we, it's kind of a spoiler, sorry, I didn't realize I was dipping into that, but

“audience just got to know, I think that brings them in. I think it brings them in. I think they're”

gonna like that there, our audience is gonna like that there's more Satan. They're gonna like, like, I mean, you can use the words, go pit in relation to a movie, our audience is gonna say. Yeah, it's actually like a good thing for them. Yeah, I like when people, but honestly, I like when sequels expand versus like, let's just do the whole thing again. Yeah, I love it. No, no, the world building in this was like so much fun, like you really expect, because it's a

direct sequel. I mean, it begins, it begins where the first movie ends. So like, was there any

challenges to doing a direct sequel to a movie? I think the big thing for us was just knowing that over seven to seven years since we made the first one that it somehow like magically found a fandom that we wanted to deliver something that felt satisfying and obviously in the world of the first movie without being overly precious about it. All of our favorite sequels, you know, like T2 and aliens, like they take the DNA of what's great about the first movie and they apply it to something

new and fresh and surprising and ultimately like those movies, whether you see the first or not, like you're just, you can be such a fan of and enjoy and enjoy them as a singular experience. And I think for us that the pressure was just, how do we make something and not be afraid to in some ways like maybe shit on the first movie a little bit and not be like overly like overly cautious and not try to be like too nostalgic about about what it is, but to maybe challenge our ourselves

and challenge the audience's notion of what the movie could be. And that was just, it was fun, but there was a lot of pressure in it too because you obviously wanted to deliver something to people, you know, that people love and enjoy in the same way as, you know, as the first movie.

“The first movie felt really effortless. I feel like that's what's so beautiful about that movie.”

It's the reason why it found its audience is because it is holy its own and it's, it feels real. It feels awesome. I love their reactions. The family's reactions are so fucking funny. And I guess that's also what works about it is that it's funny, scary, bloody.

the Satanist stuff that we love the idea of a modern, the modern interpretation of something like

really ancient and full of tradition and how just bastardized that has become. And by though, I feel like that happens with all old, old institutions. And we just, we love that you have people with all of like trappings of modern life. Like still trying to like hold on to something that has its roots in a time and a mythology that are maybe like not even understandable. There's it's so old. And so, you know, so uncanny and strange. And that to us is like,

we're all of that fun lives. Like people, you know, like not knowing if the fucking devil exists. Like all of that's just so, it's just so sticky and fun.

“How important was it to you that you being incredibly accurate about Satanism?”

Were you? I don't even know personally to be honest. Unfortunately, no, but I love you both. I would love to know everything that we got wrong and how we, we did because we had like a, there's a whole like Elijah does a whole chant or speech or, you know, I don't know what you can sermon. And you can kind of hear at the beginning of it for, and, and that was one that we Ryan Ryan, one of the writers, Guy and Ryan are the writers. And Ryan, he's big into this stuff.

And he was like, I'm going to get you guys a nice long thing. So he wrote us out and it was funny. We did an ADR. And Elijah, I was like, okay, so I'm just reading this. I hope I'm not like, I can't taste it. Like, what? Yeah, I don't care. You see the right stuff that sounds like it. You know what's funny is that in my mind, when I look at

“those types of ritual sequences, whenever it throws to Satan, it's like, I think it's good for the”

audience to understand because they, I think most people, the audience doesn't fully understand

Satanism as a whole and all that, like, so it's like fine. But it's like to me, I always want to see

a specific demon that is like literally my actual, like, nitpick with every one of these, which is I want a specific demon and a specific ritual for a specific demon. Otherwise, I'm good to go. Who is Belial? Belial's one of Satan's guys. Belial. Yeah, well, it's LaBella. It's an Intergram of LaBella. Yeah, LaBella. Yeah, LaBella. Yeah, you know about the main person. Satan, Henry? Right? No, he's one of the guys. He's a figure representing ultimate wickedness.

I've just always think of, I always think of, oh, the guy in the basket. Yeah, that's right. That's right. I always go too. Because you know what it is, is that in Satanism, they replace blood sacrifices with sex sacrifices. So the idea was, is that eventually at the end of the day, was trying to say, no, no, no, we don't sacrifice animals. We come.

“That's what the, to mimic the spirit of energy from the neck of an animal. Like, essentially,”

that's what you're doing. You are recreating the creative burst of life that is a flow of blood

from a freshly open vein, which you are transmuting it with your powerful seed.

Yeah. Did you know your movie is about that? Yeah. Yeah. And my question is now, is it for ready enough three? Are you going to have people explode with common, instead of blood? Yes. And just have common explosions? I think you just have a lot of how we, how we up the, up the end here. Yeah. You know, they said that they pitched aliens where James Cameron went in the room. You were alien and then he wrote like a dollar sign after aliens. You just write ready. You're not three.

Come. Yeah. Well, like underneath on the big, yeah. Yeah, because here, to is here, I come big square around here. We come with you. The, the come in the title is not accidental, but you want to was great. I think the same as it was great. Yeah. Let's take a break to thank our sponsors search light. Ready or not, too. Here I come is a biting and hilarious satire revealing the absurdities underpinning wealth, tradition and exclusivity moments after surviving and all out

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The first movie was just a literal pyro-technics in a plastic bag full of goo and we've sort of

moved on to safer, more reliable technology now. Our guys on this movie engineer this blood cannon that looks like a drone out of, you know, Star Wars. It has all these holes cut in the side and just kind of fins that stick out of it. And they hook it up to a big pneumatic, pneumatic tank and just like fire air through this thing, fill it with blood and fire pressurized air through it. And it's, I mean, it where there really is like a feeling of excitement on set. Those events are

the reason you show up, you know? It's like, there's a countdown and I mean, everything about it.

It just feels so, so grand and exciting and and messy as hell. It's just, it's a blast. It's a blast. It's a blast.

They have to live in this level. They're, you don't reset. It's, they're one and done. They are. It is, it is, and then the rest of the day, or week, or however long it has to be. They're, the stat is sticky and gross. Oh, for the rest of the time, but it's a vibe. It's fun. It's, you know.

“I took that. That's great. What do you use caros here? Do you know?”

What's your blood mixture? What's your blood mixture? We use the same mix on the last few movies. And it's, it's a mix of caros are up and then I, you know, they sort of thin it out for the blood canons because you want you want more projection. And then the stuff that we use on the actors is just a more viscous because it, you know, it's, it stretches better. Like you get the webbing and all of that, you know, that great effect that feels really cinematic. And so you can kind of water it down. You put, sometimes they put dish, dish detergent in it, like dish soap. Yes. So we help it not break break up.

So there are a bunch of little tricks of the trade, but it's. And then it helps. We use the mix a few times. Yeah. One question, I, one question I had you on set. You had legendary director David Cronenburg as an actor.

“Now, when you're, when you're looking at this fucking guy, how do you tell him what to do? Like, what is he doing?”

He's like, how do you tell him what to do? You see one of those where it's like, are you dare you to direct me? Like I said, what else? I mean, he's the nicest fucking dude. He was, he was, that idea came about our casting director was, we were trying to find some. We had to cast it locally. And he was like, David Cronenburg is a Toronto native and might be into this. And we were like, oh my fucking God, that is the best idea we've ever heard. And he, it was literally one call. And Cronenburg was like, yeah, I'm in. And you don't have to push the script through like a membrane.

Like, I thought you'd have to push it through an open stink during to like a goo. But he was, you know, like, just the sweetest guy. And like, comp was like, I really liked the way you run the set. Like, just a lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely dude. But I gave him a minute. And it was, I mean,

never wrapped it. It was hard struck the entire time. Yeah. Yeah, it was, but he couldn't have been kinder.

He was like, are you very much like, you guys just tell me what you need, you know? And of course, like, uh, do the thing that you do, just do with your two Mr. Cronenburg. And it's like, I will haunt your dreams. Yes, of course, I want to haunt your dreams.

“You know how many different ways I can have sex with surgery. I think about it all day. Organs and blood and organs.”

Now, we had a little technical difficulty. We loosely talked about this, but I want to bring it back around. You, we love that you're doing all this action stuff and you bring an action to the horror movies. And of course, you cast Sarah Michelle Geller, like, who better, uh, to like, fucking do a bunch of action scenes than Buffy? Uh, was that, I mean, we haven't seen her in a while. Was that, what do your ideas? Was that a casting move? Like, who was, who was this? This is great.

My wife was so happy. Well, Sarah was a, she, she raised her hand. It was, and it was late in the process. We had been trying to cast that role. And I, I feel like it was like two weeks out. Does that sound right, Tyler? Yeah. It was too close. It was too, it was too, it was too, we were like,

basically broken, leading up to shooting. And we didn't have either of the brother sister roles cast.

“And so it was like, oh my god, how are we going to start this movie in two weeks? And then we,”

we, we got so lucky that somehow Sarah heard about it and said, I would be way into that. And so we, we zoomed with her and she was on a plane like a week later. And it couldn't have been cooler, couldn't have been like more just into everything and excited about it. And I, I wanted for first notes, was though that her character before she had been cast, her character's weapon was a crossbow, and she was like, this just might be a little too bumpy. Yeah, yeah, fair, fair, fair.

Such a pro though. I feel like we've had the chance to work with, you know, a few actors that I've just been doing it since they were kids. And I mean, it's insane. To see somebody that's just that good at what they do. They show up. They like know exactly what the moment needs. And, and you nudge, you nudge here and there, but for the most part, you just do a bunch of takes because you can't stop watching them be awesome. And that was that was Sarah every single day. It's great.

Yeah, I did, you know, I was looking at, you know, the cast for all your movies. And I know that, you know, you guys have worked with a lot of people who have done a ton of TV, like people who were, and, you know, for the OC for Friday night lights, friends, lost fucking down Abby, you know, you got Matthew for fucks sake. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it, do you notice, like, as a director, is there a difference between actors who've done, like, primarily TV and actors who've done,

like, primarily film. That's a great question. I do feel like actors always feel like they

understand, like, the sort of running gun pace of things. In the different way, right, like, they're they're used to, I remember, I mean, talking to Sean on this one. He's like, yeah, we show up on the set of the pit and we're like, jamming through 12 pages a day. And, you know, you land on a film set and, like, you're, you're lucky to get through five and a half without it feeling, you know, really, really pinched. And so, I think that there's, they come into it with, like, an, like, an

energy, there's this sort of, like, cageed animal, like, fuck, we got to, like, get out of the gate and run as fast as we can. And I think it's always, it's always, they're always, they love to have time to give more. And we've found that with, with all of, with all of the cast that has, has TV

“experience, they like show up super on book, super prepared because that's what TV demands of them,”

right, that that you just, you, you got to get it and move on and you got to be locked in and they don't like when you're small. Yeah. Yeah. And because of that pace, like, they get to do a lot of different things, right? It's shows that, you know, like, Buffy, for example, I'm tons of action, tons of emotional stuff. And so they, there's just a, I think there's a real, there's a real, sort of, like, school of work that comes out of that out of that process. And it's also coming

in with, like, a strong, oh, sorry, I was going to say coming in with, like, a strong choice already made because it's like, I got to be there on take one because I remember just talking about Matthew Good for a second in Abigail. I mean, he shot for half a day on that movie. It was the last half of the day of the whole shoot. And he, and he, and he comes in and he's like, you know, I'm just going to kind of have fun with this. And like, really takes some swings. And we're like, that is exact.

This is the end of the movie. You're fucking Dracula. Just be as big and wild and weird as you want to be. Like, we are here for it. You know, I remember him coming up to us and like ask, like, is it too much? And he even asks Melissa, like, am I, is this, am I maybe, is this weird? And she's like,

no, no, no, the guys will tell you if you cross the line. Yeah. Yeah, it's always easy to

give more your opinion. It's easy to give more. Well, I guess the difference between where we talked about television actors and film actors, it looks like you guys are working on the new iteration of the mummy with Brendan Fraser is he bringing back his character from the whale. You were saying, you were saying about applying old ideas to new things.

“That's it. That's how we're doing it. Can you just imagine, this isn't, this isn't that”

mummy. This is a brand new version of the mummy with that character. Wow, that's amazing. But honestly, how is it going into this process of obviously you did screen films? This is like you did a reboot of IP. You've done a couple other things. This is big, this big time. Oh, school IP. Yeah. And they're, they're bringing it like, how's that? There's a ride based off of this fuck. Yeah,

Yeah, based on the ride, the mummy's actually based on the ride. Do my best for that

“movie. It's going to be when it goes backwards. The second half of the movie just requires it.”

We sort of told ourselves after screen, like, ah, fuck, we're not going to we can't get involved in another like, you know, pre-existing franchise or something that we didn't originate. And then like, we started working with with the writer Dave Kogashal and our pretty, our like dear friends are producing at the same dudes that we've been working with for for many years. So that's a drink right here, not. Yeah, and got the band back together. And, and when we started

breaking the story and hearing Dave like pitch on it, it was like, fuck, man, it just, it's too, it's just too good to not, to not steer fully into it. And it is remained that. It's, it's like such a special, such a special script and to have the two of them back for it. It's, it just feels really good. It's one of those things that we were doing as long enough to know that, like, that's ultimately the thing that you follow is that feeling. And this one just feels,

it just feels really fucking good. Rachel, why's come back to? Yeah, cheers.

It's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. So is this, is it a, like a reboot with the same characters or is it like a

continuation of the, you know, the old, the 90s mutton movies? It's, it's, it's, it's finding them now. I mean, we, you know, we wanted to not overcomplicate anything. We really wanted to be like, here they are. It's been that many years. This is what they're doing and here's their new adventure.

“And making, making sure that, you know, I think for us, and again, we did this on screen,”

we had to really focus on, like, what is the thing that makes this special? You know, like, what, what is it, and how do we, you know, Tyler, you mentioned earlier, how do we create the feeling that we all have watching it back then? It doesn't have to be the same thing. It doesn't have to be like nostalgia overload or just like ripping it off. But it has to create the same feeling. And I think for us, when you watch that movie, then and now, Rachel and Brendan are that feeling. You know,

just like, oh my god, they're so good. I just want to be with them doing their thing. And so that was kind of our, like, headline going into this was, this is about those two characters. Let's have fun with it. And the Brendan Fraser character has eaten himself into immobility into a wheelchair and he has to, and then he's facing the struggles of being gay and they want to eat. Yes. He's the mummy. Mummy, it's the mummy. It's the mummy. It's the mummy. This is all of this you can take.

Yeah, my fire now, guys. My primary memory with this movie is having a really awkward movie date in high school. What are you doing to erase that memory from my head? We got, we got to work that in somehow. That's the, I have a very funny story about it, but I'll tell you later off camera. Is the Tom Cruise version dead? Is that just like just not have nothing to do with this? Yeah, this, this sort of resets with those original characters. All right. And is this just,

is it a part of the like universal monsters universe? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's awesome. Yeah. Fuck, yeah, man. It's gonna go in the amusement park, dude. You're giving me the new mummy right, man.

“Yeah. Fuck, you have to go upside down. Yeah, we're going to scare of the shit out of you.”

What's it like to be a part of like the, arguably the greatest horror movie tradition in history? I mean, it's, it's unreal, like honestly, we, we, we text each other about it all the time. We're like, just like, like a random text that like made it on like, holy shit, we're making a mummy movie. Like, how is that in life? That's, it's hard to like increase the, I'm so kind of have to forget about that because you, you know, again, you like, don't want to, you don't want to be hanging on to that too tightly. I think you feel,

I think you can feel that in the, in the wrong way. And so it's finding out how to like, express it in the right way. And that's really just what you, what you challenge and what you, you know, what you breathe, what you revive. And again, I just, we can't say enough about how stoked we are. I, it feels, it, we feel so ready like just on a script level, we could like start shooting now, you know, it just, it's just a lot to build a movie of, of this size. Well, let's, you know,

though, let's just, I'll just have, you know, that the whole country will finally be excited by a project

when you reboot George of the jungle. And that's really not, unfortunately, until we're talking about that, I don't know where the excitement's going to be. Actually, you're making a bunch of

a ascino man in bio dome, I believe. Briefly, yeah, very, very briefly shows up as it's more of a

polychor vehicle. Scenoman is now a fucking caveman lawyer. Do you guys need polychor's info? I can get it. You can call polychor for you. We can give him your address. Are you willing to do an in Scenoman reboot, a horror in Scenoman reboot? Oh, the dream, the dream. I just watched it again. It's so good. Yeah, we're watching it like really in the past like six months. And I was like, this is,

a fucking great movie. You ever seen that thing when they showed what Neanderthals would probably

“sound like where they go like, oh, oh, oh, oh, the high boys. That's what you got to do. The reboot in Scenoman”

with the real Indian or Tall in the, the dig out. It's just like, what is it? It's a screaming monkey thing. We do the serious version of it. Yes, but with the screaming high pitched. What? Oh, yeah, I mean, is there anything you could tell us like, where are you at in the mummy production? Like, where are you sort of shooting yet? Have you got locations?

No. We are scouting. We went on a really amazing scout to Morocco just recently. And so,

I mean, we're at the beginning. We're at the bottom of a very, you know, Tall Mountain, but we start prepped and earnest in a couple months. And probably, I think, shooting by end of the summer. Yes, sweet little boys are living the dream. There's a lot of pyramid in Egypt. Yeah. You want some Morocco, but you should try Egypt. I mean, you just see it's impossible. It does seem like you're going.

I want this Egypt place and me some links on Egypt. You know, it sounds like you guys really aren't doing this radio silence thing, right? I think you need it. Yeah, I think I think you need Egypt. Go to Morocco and you take a right. Yes, you're really got to tell you. You're just going to get past all the other of the bad guys. Yeah, like I think you're your vocal harms and your isses. You guys skip past them because that's bad for insurance.

And a lot of those guys, you can pay off.

“And you're you should run our production service. You're not ready or not to come out. March 20th,”

go see it in the theater. Seriously. Here you go. Yeah. Here I come. It's going to be amazing.

Yeah, it's such a great. It's such a great warm movie, such a great action movie. It's funny. It's just if you love the first one, you're going to love love love the second one. And it's just I just also have to ask like, how much fun is it to take someone like Elijah Wood and be like, you're going to be the devil's lawyer? Extremely fun. And like, that was a character on the page too that was, you know, it's a lot of exposition, right? It's a lot of like rules and talking.

And we emailed Elijah and said, hey, this is super weird. Very random. And it's an interesting character. He doesn't have a name. He's the lawyer. Would you have any interest in coming up to Toronto for a few months in doing this with us? And we can send you the script. And I think he emailed back like the next day. I love it guys. I'm in. And he just, he just made that his own. And I mean, an A for your costume designer that costume he has. And so it just, it all works together so well.

And I mean, Elijah's really like a lot of the magic trick of the movie, right? Because he has to tell you everything in a way that's entertaining when it's rules, rules, rules, rules, rules. Yeah. And he's the devil's lawyer. Which is he's a real G. Elijah Wood's a real, real motherfucker. Yeah. I like it. He's talking to him. He knows what's going on. He also knows movies. I think that's also one thing we're kind of seeing too is a lack of what you're talking about is actors that know what to do.

It's because they have a wonderful understanding of film and of watching film and of of,

“I feel like that's one thing we're sort of missing. And that's why it's more more like we got”

to go to the movie theaters. We have to see these things. We have to have a set of references that's not just saying libubu, FKA twigs over and over again. Yeah, I think for us it's like, how do you find people that are like like Elijah to do the most absurd, possible thing with the most with the most seriousness, like with absolute commitment. And that's him. Just a good guy. Fantastic. It's a wonderful movie.

And I forgive him for North. Sure. Guys, thank you all so much for joining us today. We really appreciate it.

this is very special. That's it.