ADHD, Alzheimer’s & Life Lately

I just love to, like, putter.

I just love all any old lady word. I just love to putter.

“It's pins journey fighting, Alzheimer's.”

When and when, when and when. What? Hey, everybody. I'm Kim Wilderness. And I've been Wilderness, and welcome to laugh lines.

If you went to a high school where there were seven genophers, and the coolest one had a trampoline, this shows for you. What were the Kimberly's? If you went to a high school where there were seven Kimberly's, and the coolest one had a swimming pool, this one's for you.

I had neither. They both worked with it. They both worked with it. Kimberly and Jennifer were. We were, I mean, if you, I had to be Kim D, yeah, I was Kim D.

And I had 400 friends named Chris, but that's still the case. That's still the case. I just don't want to stood the test of time. Okay. I really thought, I turning 50 this season of life, we'd be entering a more peaceful era.

Ah. I really thought. I didn't know.

“I really thought we were entering like this really calm type of time of life.”

But just for the record and the last year, I was diagnosed with ADHD, which is wild. My daughter went to college and is now finishing her first year, wild roller coaster, or some that is licensed, which when your baby has a license, it's just, it's just a favorite show. It's my favorite show.

Watch the dot, move everywhere. And you are so busy, you are fighting Alzheimer's like a toddler fighting bedtime. It is a topic of conversation in our house. Yeah, so today we have some life updates and maybe a few laughs, maybe. The clip note on the updates is, we're busy.

No, but also, I really don't you do this in life though. You think like, I'm going to get to that when life comes. Yes.

And I have learned that life, in fact, never calms down, is this what it is until the

end of time? All right, I don't want to blow your mind here, but do you really want life to come down? No, you're right. You're right.

Yeah. I don't like to be bored. I don't like to be bored with all this stuff. Like you're enjoying. I'm not that you're okay with like being diagnosed with something, but like you like

it when stuff is happening. I do. I do. But I really know what it, okay. It takes me a while to figure out like where I am mentally.

I, you know what I think it is. I think I would understand myself better at this point.

“That's what everybody who turns 50, you're like, I finally know myself of it.”

Now, there's like a whole, it, it feels like I've entered Willy Wonka's like the crazy boat ride. It's really trippy. And I'm like, oh, wait, no, this is what it is. And so there's like a whole new version of myself, I'm trying to get to know.

You have discovered some new cool things about yourself this year, so I think you do know your self better. There's this wild possibility that all of these things that you have been struggling with neuro divergently might all be explained by one simpler thing than like five more difficult things.

So that's a journey that you're going down right now.

Second of all, I don't know how out of left field this came.

There were signs. There were signs. Every day we're saying, there were some signs. You know, we should do first because our podcast is called the Lafline. Yeah.

I think we're actually supposed to go to the Lafline. The Lafline. Hi. This is a question, any of the Jessica from this again. I just wanted to tell you, I had a very relatable moment to one of your bits about

taking a call from your college daughter. I hadn't heard from our youngest in about two weeks, other than a range of text here or there, so I gave her a call while I was driving home, she didn't pick up. I continued to drive a deer ran into the side of my car while I was processing that. My daughter called back and I immediately forgot about the deer and took the call.

So yes, I completely relate to that. Thank you for your questions. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Thank you for that. And she drove home when her husband was like, why is there a bottle over in the front of the car? Oh crap, my daughter called and I hit a deer. Yes.

That's by the way, Lafline, they don't have to be questions. They can be stories. I love that. Oh my gosh, I, but yes, if my daughter calls the world stops, deer's no more, said this God.

Okay, we get an email from Emily, which we also, we call that the Lafline. The subject line was yet another mama with ADHD.

I, when I told everybody that I had ADHD, there were some people that there was some resistance few people. They're like, no, that can't be it. They can't be it.

“And my therapist said, what are they afraid that like there's only so many ADHD tickets?”

And if you get one, they can't have one. So she replied, I got one of those tickets for my doctor.

I have a million things to say about women and late diagnosis.

I just received mine last year at 39. But I should have known from all of my childhood report cards, holy cow, where those teachers mean. And I actually felt kind of proud of my parents because even though they didn't help me recognize what was happening, they also didn't beat me up for not fulfilling my potential

or making careless mistakes and not applying myself. I would say my sweet mom, she was like, oh my God, I feel bad. I didn't see something. I'm like, but for me, she's 39, I'm 50, 50 that wasn't a thing to even be aware of that long ago.

And my mom didn't say, again, there were signs. She's like, I just remember you having very outside, outsized reactions to everything, a fight with a friend or not getting a grade or whatever. She just like, I just remember I felt like there wasn't much I could do to make you feel better.

Like that tracks. Which is one of the most consistent signs and challenges of having ADHD and also one of the least talked about parts of it.

It has always been you're just crazy jumping off the wall.

It's not man when things are tough. They are really tough or vice versa when you're happy. They're really, really for X. I think the way she was telling the story was I think I got into an argument with a little friend and I was just out for days.

Right. So also the sense of justice of feeling like you've been wronged. Like it's all in there. So we together have written, we've got two books that have been published about ADHD that talk about those signs.

We have a third children's book coming out, which is actually called Get It Done and Have Fun. It's actually on pre-order right now.

“If you want to get it, very cool, like now that you know you've got ADHD, it's like hacks”

and tips and tricks for how to get the boring stuff done. It can be useful for people with ADHD, for people without it, for adults. It rhymes. It's got cool pictures, but I kind of, if it's okay, I would like to go back to our first children's book, which is called, oh, you have it here.

Oh, you can be with ADHD. So this book, a big part of this book is talking to kids or adults about some of the signs and some of the parts of your brain that maybe would explain why you have this diagnosis. Okay, and I know you're not a child, but I would love to, do you mind if I go to this sort of sort of diagnostic section?

Yeah, it's funny, I have not read that since getting my ticket. First of all, a percent of justice. I want to know this. So this is a big page in our book where it's got this sweet little girl and she's scared because of how scary the title ADHD is because one thing that happens, people with ADHD,

is they see attention deficit, hyperactivity, and disorder, and it feels like a lot. It feels like a lot that doesn't exactly name what it is I'm feeling. Yeah. First of all, let me just say, I've been doing a lot, and I'll keep you updated. Just trying to learn about my brain.

And I'm like, well, I don't really hyperfocus like Penn does. And you can hyperfocus on and edit, and you can be up here for eight hours. You won't eat, you won't pee, you're in, like, you're in a trance. I don't do that mine all the time.

Mine, and the example I've given is I, when we got the call to go in the amazing race,

I'd watched most of the seasons already, but I rewatched every show, had a kukodok, had a, and it took me a month or so, and I detailed every type of task where they went wrong. All of these things, and she looked at me, she's like, that's not hyperfocus. Like, oh, also the way that you read books, the way that you dance, the way that you go

“to dance class, it's stuff that you care about, right?”

I don't think that you care about editing the way that I care about. So yeah, you absolutely have the ability to hyperfocus. Guys, so check, you have that sense of justice, no one with ADHD likes the name ADHD. No, if you do call me, love to hear it. I just, I don't think it's true.

Okay, so you ready? Yeah. Here's the book I wrote for children that I'm now reading to my wife. Um, yes, it can be lonely. I've said to myself, why can't I be normal like everyone else?

Sometimes we are squirmy, sometimes we forgetful, we enter up friends that makes us regretful.

Yeah. Okay. Sometimes we have trouble listening to a friend, space out on stories before they can end. Sometimes you work really hard at that. I work, I, I, so you work super hard at that.

I work, it is very important to me that I'm a good listener.

“And I think that at some point in your life, you, you hacked that.”

You said, look, I'm gonna, I'm gonna actively listen to this person, and that is something you can work on. Yeah. Right? When things go wrong, we can get really sad and really frustrated.

And yes, even mad. Oh, yeah. And I will say on the interrupting thing, I have realized that I have an urgency, especially when doing this podcast to, to, to, get removed, no, to jump in and to interrupt. And I just thought, so I was given the feedback when I was middle school high school

that I was an interruptor and how rude it was. So that has been kind of, that has been something I've been working on since then, because nobody wants to feel, yeah, nobody wants to feel like you're not listening to them. So I have been working on that for decades. So, to be honest, like, I'm, I'm really asking your child itself about this because I think

as, I want to make this clear, as an adult, you have really worked hard. No, but my child says things. Yeah. And this is, again, this is a story for books, and it's really hard for a kid with ADHD who has delays in all this executive functioning that any of these skills.

So you've done really well. So what's normal to others, it sometimes upsets us, and that can be lonely, not everyone gets us. Did you feel that way? Do you still feel that way?

Oh, there are many moments. Yeah. If you're, the examples I gave, if you answer, yes, you are so very brave. So brave. You're so brave.

Thank you, baby. This is, like, that takes bravery to get to this point, right? Mm-hmm. Like, have you felt scared in talking about this? Yes.

Yeah. Yeah.

And I have always been the type of person.

I want to know more about my brain always.

“That's why I went to the college counseling services, I'm like, oh, they're free.”

Let's go. And so curious about how my brain works. But I was, I was given a diagnosis of anxiety because, oh, you just, you don't have capacity to handle this or this one thing happened, therefore you will always have this. Now looking at it through a lens of this diagnosis, it just explains, oh, this is how

you were built. Yeah. I mean, so you can do around it, but it's not some sort of thing that you've brought on yourself. But it's still brave to admit it.

I mean, it's, it's, it's braver than getting haircuts in the dark. It's braver than feeding cupcakes to a shark. You're brave to admit that sometimes things are tough, but here's the good news. The real awesome stuff. Okay.

So this is the part where we talk about the good side of ADHD. And I feel like a lot of this applies to you, too, right? Okay. Your brain is a source of great innovation.

You have an amazing imagination.

Always have. Kim, those of you listening, if you think just because I'm singing the songs that I came up with the ideas, they generally come from my wife's head, who is incredible at noticing things that are going on in the world and finding a creative way to launch them. To be clear, I have a lot of great ideas.

I don't actually have the activation gene to follow through on them. That's where I like pen. Do I'm here for it? That's something to do it together. Yeah.

Thank you. I know you don't like me. We've just talked about you a lot, but we just kind of visited your inner child. They're a little bit. So there were signs.

There were signs. Maybe people didn't know what these signs were. Right.

“And I think my wild moods that my poor mother had to endure over very small things.”

Even when I was, she wrote, she did such a good job with her Christmas ornaments. And so she has boxes for them all and she kind of wrote a story about like when we found it, when we picked it out, one of them that hangs on her tree is Kimmy, I don't like that name. Kimmy made this in preschool.

She forgot it. She cried so hard and through such a fit basically, she had to turn around to write back and go pick it up like that day. I was four years old and that basically continued. Yeah.

Your signs is like the favorite new phrase in our house, and I just thought I'd share the signs because if you're listening, maybe it's something you identify with, I had no idea that these were signs of possible ADHD. More on this after these words. I had no idea that these were signs of possible ADHD, having doom piles everywhere.

You know who? Yeah. Okay.

From attitude, magazine, which is an incredible resource, doom piles, standing for it, didn't

I just called them doom piles because they literally, give you a sense of doom.

Yes. They're disorganized, massive collections of items, common in people with ADHD caused by executive dysfunction, decision fatigue, and fear of losing items. These piles represent overwhelming delay decisions. But this is one of those things that makes it, doesn't everybody do that.

And my doom piles is everything from bills I have to pay, checks to deposit, you know, like a birthday check from my dad, like I have to deposit that plus a t-shirt, I have to return to Amazon plus like it is like this, but I'm like, it's in one pile. They're not organized in different silos. It's just one pile.

This is one pile, but I'll have like a doom pile in my office of doom pile in my bedroom. So, but I'm like, I, when I get to it, I super get to it. And then also like that pile stays there, and the rest of the home around you is, like, immaculate, like you vacuum and do all of these things. They probably would take longer than, and it's, it's because that pile fills you with

doom. Also there were signs, I was at South by Southwest in Austin, Penn was not there. I flew there on Delta's flank back on Southwest, and at the time in Austin, the security lines were making national news, hours long security lines.

There was a first airport to kind of have that impact, but the TSA pre-check and digital

ID were still open. And if you had that combination of clearances, it's like a two minute line.

“I didn't realize you have to file that with each airline.”

I was like, babe, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't figure this out. I don't know what it is. He logs into my account and he's like, oh, it's because you bought a ticket with the wrong name, the wrong TSA pre-check number. I had everything wrong, and he just, he just sort of giggles.

He's like, there were signs, so he fixed that for me. And I asked him, I'm like, but you have ADHD, like, you're, I mean, I'm not going to details. How are you so good at details? This is wild.

We're going to move sort of away from ADHD and more until like relationships. This is how love languages help save our ADHD. We know about ADHD's interest-based nervous system, right? Like you're interested in things that are challenging or new or novel and that are of personal interest, right?

ADHD, you have an executive functioning issue and getting all those things done, dates of birth, paperwork, any of that stuff. It's that, nobody, like, for the most part, particularly cares about that.

“However, if you're a human in your love language is acts of service, which mine is, right?”

Then your partner can really show love and receive love by helping you out with that, right? So what I learned was if I gave you acts of service, by correcting my name on thing and during paperwork and just doing all that, you give me personal touch, which is my love language.

So it's a transaction system. It's a transaction system. It's a transaction system. No, not necessarily personal touch, or I can tell that you love me when I do these things for you and nothing makes me happier than telling that being able to tell that you love

me. And so for that reason, I do the paper. Well, yes, there were signs. I would have to say, in therapy and I'm going to update you guys, I was given the task of doing like a 15 minute a day, sort of admin, just set a timer, and just do 15 minutes

a day of that sort of admin stuff. And I did it. I would say two out of the four days so far.

We've been a little busy, but in that sort of first thing off my list, I want to make that

a bigger habit. Another thing, I've learned about myself, the hobbies. I just think every frame of this because I was super-hyper-focused, I mean, 10 years ago it's of trathons, and then Moshong and then Pickleball, and now it's chess, and dance has been my flong.

So that'll stick.

“I think I'm just wildly curious about a lot of things.”

Yeah. I'm not going to shame myself into thinking that I can't actually stick with something. There's no shame with that. There is like there is the ADHD stigma that you were referring to that we start hobbies and we don't finish them.

And what's wrong with dabbleing? I'm a dabbleer. Right? I'm a dabbleer. I like to putter and dabble.

Yeah. I like to putter around my house and dabble in things. You're a dabbleer and you're a dazzler. I was a dazzler at the University of Florida, but mostly a, like, like, doodle, dabble, any, any sort of--

You're a dabbleer. You're a dabbleing dazzler who doodles. I just love to, like, putter. I just love all any old lady word of, like, I just love to putter.

I can spend the full day just huddering. Is this a good time to bring up, again, the Facebook ADHD hobby Facebook group,

or, like, that basically is for people with ADHD.

I can't really have to look at just Google ADHD hobby Facebook group. But it's pretty awesome because it's a place that you can, like, easily exchange. Like, I can give my, like, chest set. I mean, I don't-- Yeah.

No, no, no, no, I'm still doing good stuff. I've got off to a good start. I was doing, like, 15 minutes a day of chest lessons because I refuse to let my husband teach me. And I, I, I've, I've just been busy.

I'm going to get back. I haven't abandoned it. Yeah. Okay.

I will say I'm actively learning and my new hyper focus is learning about my brain and women's

brain specifically with ADHD because quite frankly, it's very different from yours. So that is my current hyper focus obsession to stay tuned.

“And here's the part where Sam asked, how do we segue into this next part?”

What do I put on the screen? We are just going to put on the screen right now, segue. No, wait, what's the next thing? It's about you with your updates on Alzheimer's. You're going to do it.

Let's do it. Okay. A jingle pen. It's pins. Journey fighting.

Alzheimer's. When and when. When and when. How to do it. He's allowed to tell you why he's allowed to do it.

We've done several podcasts about our commitment to your cognitive health, your mothers and late stages of Alzheimer's, Mary Holderness is still fighting. Still kicking. But you laugh when you say that, but it is, she is a medical marvel.

“So they're in her home, she's been on hospice for years, maximum amount, right?”

Because there's a certain amount of weight loss in cognitive decline that means like, it's happening and it also gets to the point where they call the family and they say, okay, it's time and they put a butterfly in the door. It's a very sweet, polite way to say it's her time and that butterfly has been on the door three times.

And it's at the point now where, shamefully, like, we get the call now and my brother and I are like, we're just sorry. She seems. We'll go over. But she seems fat.

She is. That seems heartless. You do go all the time. And if they called and said the butterflies up again, you would have grayed so for that.

No, yeah. No, it's mostly like when we're out of town and we get it, we try to get home. And we have gotten home. I've missed, I've missed some important events. She's just, she's just confounding the medical model and it's pretty awesome, cognitively

she's not there physically, she's lost a ton of weight. It is, they're keeping her comfortable and they're taking great care of her and that's the one fantastic respite. But I've watched, I watched my dad die slowly, I watched my mom die even slower. And so that's where this journey started, started about a year ago when we started talking

to doctors about like, is there something you could do about it? And the answer seems to be no, but the answer really is yes. The pop culture answer is no, these are your genes, but I think doctors now are challenging that. And we've met several doctors who believe just because genetically, signs are you pretty

exposed, but there are some things you can be doing and that's today's important update. Yeah. So what are you doing? So real quick, I have twin copies of the apoi 4 gene. It is, you can look that up and very quickly, see that it like 10X's your chances of getting

Alzheimer's, if you live the same lifestyle as the person next to you who's being studied. What we learned very quickly through Dr. Richard Isaacson is that the apoi 4 gene, which

is the strongest genetic risk factor for Alzheimer's, plays a critical role in your body's

dysfunction or inability to absorb cholesterol, right? So cholesterol has a huge, plays a huge factor for those people who have that apoi 4 gene, which is like a lot of people with Alzheimer's. So the first thing he did was he put me on a statin for cholesterol, your cholesterol was high.

“And here's the thing you know about apoi 4s is your HDL's high and your LDL's high.”

They're both high and a lot of physicians will say, you're fine, like this is high, but this is high because this causes a problem and this carries it away. So you're just, but if they're both high it really is an absorption issue and that kind of cholesterol may not lead to heart disease, but it does wildly increase the risk of getting emulating the brain, which is plaque, which is Alzheimer's, got it?

So I'm on a statin. Have you been, had your cholesterol been retested as a lower? Yes. So I was in the red, red line red for both.

Crestaur, which is Rovastatin, and then he added Zetia because he, Dr. Isaacson and he is,

he's the guy to ask about it. And a lot of other doctors have been like, why Zetia? And you'll probably do it too, this guy knows what he's doing. Zetia handles the, I guess, that particular facet of cholesterol that affects the brain. And so I'm on both, they're both very small doses.

And then I'm taking something called Cocutin, which is supposed to manage the muscle stuff. And then apparently, like oddly as this all happened, my vitamin D was low. Well, that's important. So by the way, this is not a podcast in which we are giving medical advice.

“So we're talking about what pelletaking that what you should take.”

Yeah. So it gets interesting after that. So those were all things recommended by Dr. Meanwhile, I got information from Dr. Octopal and Dr. Isaacson, that there are early, early tests with GLP ones. Micro doses of GLP ones and the ability for that to either slow the cognitive decline or nip it in the butt before it even happens.

The theory being in the what they're testing and what tests have showed is that it's reducing some inflammation. Of course, the long term studies are a way out.

Dr. Topal's doing a first of its kind study where he's actually studying the amounts

that are beneficial and this butt studies. So we hear this and we're reading preliminary studies. We're reading all this stuff and there's not been shown significant harm from these drugs. So me being an impatient wife, wanting my husband's brain to, you know, I want him to know my name in 20 years, I pushed you basically to seek out a prescription for a GLP one.

You are not overweight at all. So this would be a, you got a prescription basically for a micro dose of GLP one, hoping that this actually works to stay off Alzheimer's.

“Yeah, doctors, the doctors like, I guess if you want to but like, or you, I mean, let's take”

care of other stuff too. And I said, I'm going to do this. And yes, you were very firm with your feelings about wanting to do this as well. Very small dose. So I got a prescription for its culture's appetite and it's 1.25 milligrams or 0.25 milliliters,

um, when they send you like, when Eli Lilly sends you the dose and you ask for the smallest dose, it's not even that, half of that and you take it once a week. So I'm on a GLP, um, let's start with that. Um, I can't, again, bring it on and say what like say whatever you want to about this. I'm not saying that you should do this.

I'm saying I have a ticking time bomb in my head, which is the apoi 4 gene. And if there is even the least amount of evidence that says that this might help it, I don't care. Like, it's, it's a risk that I'm going to, that I personally am going to take. It's such a small dose that it's actually more affordable than, than you would think that it is. Well, and that's another thing, like, let's just call it out.

Like, we are privileged enough to, we, you're, it's not covered by insurance. This, this use of it. And so you are, we are self-payments. So we decided that this was worth, like, let's not go out to dinner a few times.

“So it's like, let's focus on this. Yeah. And, and that's what our family decided to do.”

Yeah, this is just me. Yeah. So how do you, your weight hasn't really changed? No, it's been redistributed. Like, a little bit of my breadback's gone. Um, and explain to people what your breadback's. My breadback is that weird area, um, uh, in between your back and your butt that becomes a higher butt that goes above your waistline.

It's like a muffin top. Yeah, a little bit of a muffin top, but a rear muffin top. I'm like noticing, like, a little more six-package than this. Okay. Then, then, like six-pack, didn't this, then, then usual? Take it off, take it off. That also may have less to do with that and more to do with, like, as part of my battle, as soon as I started taking a GOP, the thing that people are most concerned about is

losing muscle muscle mass. So I've gotten, like, full on back into CrossFit. Right. So I'm doing twice the weight training that I did before I started taking a GOP, because I feel like that's necessary. Um, and so that might just be what's happening. And you're, I feel like you're, it's such a small amount. I feel like you're eating the same

amount. I mean, yeah, I am, but like, that's, like, on the days that you take it, the first couple

of days, I get so burpee, like, like, barf burpee, like, at night, it's like, because it slows down your digestion. And so if, if I eat, I've got to do it like early in the day, because, um, I loved food. And I, and, um, I don't have the same cravings, but this is weird. I'm feeling, um, like, I need

where my age who have started taking the same medication in, like, larger doses, because they were

overweight, and they look fantastic, but like, I see them and I'm like, you're not doing the weight training. Like, I can tell. And they're my age and like, that's such an important thing.

“So, uh, yeah, I think I've lost a couple of pounds, but most of it is still there. Again,”

I probably sound crazy to people, and I'm, there's going to be a lot of comments saying, like, don't, don't tell people to do this. I'm not telling anybody to do this. I'm telling people, if you have the genetic component. It's something to look into, which is a very small part. It's less than one percent of the population. It's two percent. I thought it was two percent of the population. I would say if they, if they said, if you have the double APOE forging and running 10 miles under the full moon

worked, I would have you out under a full, like, I would do practical witchcraft if they said. So, this just seems like, it's so early. The testing is early. You don't like, if I grow an extra arm out of the out of my, the middle of my chest. Carry more stuff for me. Carry more stuff for me. I just like, y'all, I don't know how to describe the feeling of seeing your parents develop this, know that it's coming, because their parents had it, be fully aware that it's coming,

and still, once it comes, taking so much of their judgment and their dignity away from them, that they're not able to acknowledge, I should have seen this coming. So, it's the taking of your dignity part that is such bullshit and so unfair. And so, yeah, like, maybe I jump the gun.

“I'll let you know if you want to stick with me. I'll share more of this journey with you.”

And if I grow an extra arm, let's do it a whole more beers. Which I'm drinking fewer of now, by the way. That's one of the big things. Really. Yeah, so, like, I just, there's, and maybe that, again, like, I'm, my weights, like, I'm looking at feeling more fit. I don't know if it's the actual drug happening or the fact that, like, I don't have the craving to drink as much alcohol

anymore. Yeah, I also feel, as if, first of all, it's all over the news, you know, the different,

there's commercials for different types of these. I honestly don't understand the difference but they're everywhere. And they have there are so many studies about GOP ones and, like, now, menopause symptoms. Things like that. I, I feel like there's going to be a time where everybody, his kind of handed, it's like a vitamin you take. Maybe. Maybe not. I mean,

“people were, said that smoking helped you with stuff. Are you trying to say that you feel”

like this is going to be the next cigarettes? I don't know. It's where I'm. Here's where I don't like, I hope not. Like, it's probably not cigarettes, but there's, there's stuff that we've been wrong about medically. But, but this drug has been used for people with diabetes growth for a long time. Here's where I, here's where I get some sense of comfort is Dr. Eric Tople, who we've tried to adopt personally into our family. He is so grumpy in a hilarious way about any medicines or he believes

him as he's like a world-class doctor and like leading, but he wants research. And so his only pause about you doing this is like, let me finish the research. That's going to take so long. He says that these GOP ones are what are like the best in class medicine he's ever seen. So that's the only reason because like, I know I'm doing the right thing for my brain. I am like the digestion part is interesting. I'm probably someone's probably going to be like,

"Pen, stop eating so much. You're stomach can't handle it. My body's telling me that now. It's very new and it's like things have gotten better because I've, I've done less of that." Okay. Well, thanks for the update. Yeah. More on this after these works. To whiplash you into another segue, let's do what Gen Ziers are saying. Today's Gen Zsling is aura points. Meaning, please, could I have a spelling? A, you are a aura. Meaning, gaining or losing

points based on the energy or vibe you give off. You gain points for a smooth or impressive action. You lose them for being awkward and embarrassing or cringe. To use in a sentence, she tried to open the door by pushing instead of pulling negative 100 aura points. I have heard this before.

Yes. I've never heard it so well laid out right there, but I will admit I did something recently

and my son looked at me and he didn't say he didn't say you gained aura points. He just said aura points like a not descriptive number of aura points and it's like happy. What he has said to

see us, if there was like some goggles, we could put on that would show the number of aura points that would be in the negative. It would be red. It would be red. Oh, P.C. Our kids, speaking of Gen Ziers, Lola is coming home from college soon or Gen Zsling. It seems early. I know. And I don't you have, yeah, I don't have money. Gen Zsling, like the normal school year for this old thing. I will say I was not prepared for how hard the transition from Christmas break to the spring

semester would be. I got used to her being home and then I made the mistake we all as a family walked her into the airport to the security line. What she just should not do, it was awful. I started hiccuping crying and pen. So sweet brought sunglasses for me and he put sunglasses. I was not expecting it. So I'm almost, I'm so excited for her to come home, but I know I'm going to get so attached to her being there. So I'm almost like cringing again for my future self. And you're not walking

up through security. I know I no longer walk her to see her. You're not, you're no longer waiting

with the sign. No, when she first came home, we did the whole thing. Well, for her first time,

we did a sign-up and this was the step. But after that, we're picking you up at baggage claim. Okay, wait to see a little. Okay, finally. Okay. Our producer and Marie Tapki is going to drop kick us to the curb if we don't do this segment that she has put at the bottom of our last seven podcasts. Ten podcasts. You know what, we're actually at a time. We're actually sorry. It's time to say, thanks for joining us on LaFlyne's next week. We will absolutely be complimenting men.

Actually, Pen is going to say, I have a dermatologist appointment and this is my yearly appointment that takes like a year to get. Okay. Were they look at all my moles? And I'm very patient white. In every time I go, they try to hurt. Yeah, every time I go, they take like a melon baller to me. So I have to go. Pen is going to wrap this podcast by complimenting men because, come here, meet me here.

“I think it's so important that men learn how to be vulnerable. And I think they need to learn how to”

say it starts with learning how to say nice things about other men. Right? Yeah. So this is what this segment is. You guys have sent us in really nice things about your men's and Pen is going to read them out loud. And I'm going to go to the dermatologist. I love you guys, Payne. Bye, babe. It's time for Pen compliments men.

So you guys sent me pictures. By the way, thank you. The first time we did this, you sent pictures

of your husband, but not his name. So I want to thank you for giving more information. Okay. First of all, we have Anthony. Anthony's were sent by your wife Erin. He's an awesome equal partner. And they've been married for 33 years. Anthony, it is so important to be an equal partner to your wife. Right? If she feels you're being equal, that means you're working really hard because the theory of relationships is when you feel like you're giving 75% you're actually only giving 50%. So yeah,

you probably feel like you're giving 75%, but you made it to that 50% which is fantastic. So well done.

“I can tell by the picture that you're a joy to be around. I got to be like, this is a compliment. Okay?”

Because I love Star Trek. I thought you were John Luke Picard when I first looked at this picture because of that shirt that you're wearing. It's just like if you look at next generation, that's exactly what John Luke Picard was wearing. You also have a beautiful head just like Patrick Stewart.

I've always thought Patrick Stewart had the most beautiful head of anybody in television. I was like,

man, if I had a head like that, I would shave my hair and I would just go bald. I don't. I look like beaker from the muppets when I shave my head. I did it once in college. I'll never do it again. But Anthony, you have a beautiful head. You just seem like the kind of guy that if I ran into at a restaurant, we would end up talking for at least 20 minutes and we might irritate our lives. That we would become instant friends. So, Aaron, thanks for sending that in. Anthony, you're awesome.

Next up, we have John submitted by his wife, Heidi. His John is an amazing husband and father. I have a crazy schedule and he keeps it all rolling when I met the hospital nights and weekends and everything in between. He's also a metal sculptbert sculptor. That's amazing. Oh my gosh, so John, my cousin, Nancy B, was a metal metallurgy major at the University of Georgia

“and we used to always call her a master of metal. So, you can have that. If you want to call”

yourself a master of metal. Okay, so this picture, I like just getting the aura from the picture. You're wearing sunglasses inside, which means you're not afraid to be funny and just to be yourself. Like, you've got, oh, he's got the, you know what he's got. He's got the, um, the veins on his biceps. That means that means he either runs or he works out and that's a good look. For some reason, I can only get, I've been working out my whole life. I got no vein on this side

and I got a huge vein on this side and I don't understand it. But you got veins on both sides.

it all rolling for your wife. That is super important. And I'm glad that she brought that up because,

“yeah, like life throws you a lot of curveballs. And if you have a partner who's able to kind of roll”

with that, that's unbelievable. Finally, we have Dan, Dan, your wife, Ketron, sent you, set this picture. Dan is incredibly talented and creative. He also creates music and musical parodies. His most successful one is a Princess Leia's stolen Death Star plans, which is a remake of Sergeant Pepper telling the story of Star Wars. We're going to have to stop what we're doing

now because this is on YouTube and it's apparently got 1.2 million views.

“Dan, you can see. So, let the record show, I think he composed this all himself.”

Because he just did a mash-up of Luke's theme. Hang on. Two-part harmony? No, three-part harmony. Princess Leia's stolen Princess Leia's stolen Princess Leia's stolen half-stop plans. Dan, how am I just now seeing this? So, Dan, you just seem, you know what? You seem like the kind of guy that I can sit next to and elazy boy for nine hours and talk

about Star Wars. I also would love to play music with you because you have a really good knack for timing. Your parody shows that you have a good knack for a humor and you have a knack for creativity. The only drawback is that if the cat tried to sit on me, I would have a sneezing attack, because Dan's got to cat with him. That's all. But, like, dude, well done. Also, when I had, by the way, Dan, I just been talking about you, your wife did say you were the sweetest,

smartest, kindest person that she knows and is her biggest cheerleader. We got some good men out there. I don't know if they'll listen to her show. I know they're wise, too. But, you guys are also welcome here as well. Thank you so much for joining me and Kim's empty chair for LaFline's "I'm Glad" that she made it to the dermatologist on time. So,

“this is normally where we read the credits. Here's the thing. Never done this before.”

Amery gaming this idea? I usually read the credits in like a different format every single week. I would like to reach out to Dan and see if he will read the credits for us. Or, better yet, sing the credits for us for this week on LaFline's. Damage. Challenge accepted? Let's find out. Here. Except for the stuff currently in your ears is "Buy Pen Holder Nass!"

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