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How to get better at staying off your phone

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So you want to be on your phone less? But what actually works when it's easier than ever to just keep scrolling. This episode, 5 expert-backed tips that will help you unplug and stay focused on what m...

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You're listening to "Life Kit" from NPR.

Hey, it's Mario. Ah, I just got an alarm clock. It has a radio feature, so I wake up to the sounds of NPR every morning. Does it sound like I'm trying to suck up to my employer?

I promise I'm not. Anyway, I did this because I was sick and tired of having my phone in my bedroom all night. Even when I blocked certain apps, I'd still find something to look at on there. Photos, old texts, it's about habit, and it kept roping me in. This is, of course, a very common experience.

Possibility onus is the author of Low Tech Life, a guide to mindful digital minimalism. We all have this screen in front of us, most of the time,

and then our offline life is relegated to a secondary place.

But the reality is that as humans, we have lived in the offline default for so long

that we crave it, we miss it. The alarm clock thing, by the way, is working really well for me, and now I am craving more, more freedom from smartphone tyranny. Because, you know, I don't work for this smartphone, it's supposed to work for me. On this episode of LifeKit, we're going to give you five takeaways

to help you get to a better place with your screen time. We'll talk about coping with that urge to scroll, about how you might downgrade to a lower tech device, or make yours less enticing, and more. This message comes from wise, the app for international people using money around the globe. You can send, spend, and receive an up to 40 currencies, with only a few simple taps.

Be smart, get wise, download the wise app today, or visit wise.com. Teas and sees apply. All right, y'all, it's time to talk about your feelings.

The first step in lessening your screen time is to tune into how it makes you feel.

That's our takeaway one. When you want to reach for your phone, or you think, I should check Instagram for the "Hundredth" time today. Notice how you feel in that moment, how your body feels, too. Do the same thing during a scrolling session, and after. Sammy Nichols is the author of "Log Off, Self-Help for the Extremely Online."

In it, she invites readers to track these feelings. I actually ask the reader to scroll through social media as they normally would, and notice what feelings come up, like, what prompts them to get on social media. Like, for example, I noticed that whenever I was feeling bad about myself in some way, I would log on Twitter, and when you're prompted to really think about it,

be mindful about how you're feeling. That's where the goal is really, because the only thing that you need to do,

the only thing is to pay attention to how you're feeling on social media, and when you feel bad, log off. Ask yourself, "How do I feel right now?" and "What can I do?" And most times it's not scroll. Most times it's like, "Take a nap." We're talking to a friend. We're doing something that makes you happy. Another thing you can do when you get the urge to scroll is resist.

I know it feels like you have to pick up that phone, but you really don't. Clinical psychologist Diana Hill has written about this topic, and she says there's this term in addiction research called urge surfing. There was a really famous addiction researcher named Alan Marlott, and he used it with smoking. So if you can imagine an urge to smoke, it rises and rises and rises, and it increases so

much of the point where you end up getting in on it. And we can think about the same thing with

our technology use. You have that urge to pick up your phone, or maybe first thing in the morning,

you have an urge to go right on your Instagram or the newsfeed. But what we know about urges

is that there are a lot like waves. They rise up, they get bigger and bigger and bigger, and they come back down again. She says the goal with urge surfing is to learn to get on board, stand up, and ride that thing out. And the more that you do it, the better you get it surfing it, and the less that you feel the feeling of, I have to give into the urge or it will kill me. Okay. Next up, take away two. Increase the friction. Make it harder to use your phone.

BJ fog is a behavioral scientist at Stanford who studies habit formation. And here's one thing he's learned. If you can get rid of ability or make it super hard to do or impossible, then the habit stops. If you can remove the prompt, it stops. There are a lot of different ways to do this. In my own life, one thing I do is I turn off tons and notifications. So I turn off the digital prompts. You might know people who've turned their phone screens black and white to make the content

less visually enticing. You can also set up a simple home screen that just has a list of apps and no pictures. I've done the thing where I don't keep Instagram on my phone, and I only log in on a browser, because it's not a great experience, so I'm less likely to hang around. Other folks trade in their smartphones for something more basic, a simple phone,

Also known as a dumb phone.

that usable. It's very basic. Essentially, a Google search, something super simple. There are

other devices, which do have more smartphone-like features, but because they have a small screen, you probably will not be tempted to spend as much time in them. After college, Jose Reless, he was spending 12 to 13 hours a day online, particularly on his phone, and it was taking a toll. I felt stressed. I felt anxious. In a way that I hadn't, I started to know this differences in the way that I acted with my friends, with my family. Maybe I was a little

bit shorter, angrier, so what I have done since I switched to a more basic phone is I go for walks. Every 2 to 3 hours, I have a dog that is quite active, and he helps me in this. So I go in a walk with my dog in the neighborhood, and I just take that time to recompose, think about what's just happening in my life, and processing all of the different aspects of it.

If you want to get a simple phone, Jose has a free quiz on his website to help you find one that

works for you. But even if you plan to keep using your smartphone, here are some more tips

for turning up that friction dial. The first one is to trust somebody else with your screen time

passcode. So if you want to go into your iPhone, and you want to use the app, and you set up a screen time limit, maybe it's 10 minutes, maybe it's 15, and you went to it, right now you probably can beat that with two taps. You say yes, I want more time. Are you sure? Yes, I'm sure. So if you give your screen time passcode to somebody else, I love one, a friend, somebody that you trust, and they don't give it back to you, then you will have close that loop for yourself. The second option is to get a software blocker,

or maybe a hardware blocker. So there are some companies like clear space or one sec, they introduce delays and some reminders to not use your phone. And there's also a book that I'm

holding right now. It's called brick. When you tap it, you block all of your apps. When you tap it

again, you allow yourself to use all of those apps again. The more friction you're introducing to your life, the harder you're making it to use all of these services and devices, your brain is going to say it's not worth it. Okay, you're becoming more mindful of your smartphone use, and you've put some obstacles in place. You can follow only one of the rules that should be this one. Take away three. Don't keep your smartphone, tablet, or computer in your bedroom

overnight. And that's for people of all ages. Gene Twengie is a psychologist and author of 10 rules for raising kids in a high tech world. So ton of researches and people do not sleep as well or as long if those devices are in their bedrooms overnight. So even if it's off, the technology is just too tempting. She says that means no scrolling before bed and no scrolling when you wake up in the morning and also no scrolling if you happen to wake up in the middle of the night. She suggests

you get yourself a regular old school alarm clock, like I did, and let your phone get some shut eye in another room. Now Sammy Nichol says doing this has changed her life. Have you ever been to a hotel that's kind of nice and you get into the sheets and it just feels so nice to kind of like have this time to yourself and just feel very calm and it's like a very specific in my mind

a hotel feeling. And that's what I felt when I put my phone outside of my room and just like kind

of let myself relax and like maybe take a bath or like read for a while and just away from any screens it's like I got that presence of mind back and I realized having the phone outside of your bedroom makes that time around your bedtime feel just like like a sanctuary and also it really does improve your sleep. Now I can hear you what if there's an emergency and somebody needs to call

me at 2am. I hope that never happens to you but you know you could leave your phone across the room

but not reachable from your bed or you could turn the ring or all the way up and put the phone outside your bedroom door. We'll have more life kit after the break. This message comes from wise the app for international people using money around the globe. You can send, spend and receive an up to 40 currencies with only a few simple taps. Be smart, get wise, download the wise app today or visit wise.com, tease and seize apply.

Whenever I take a couple days away from Instagram and then I log back in, I feel guilty because I have all these unread messages from my loved ones. Memes handpicked by them for me. I am ungrateful. I am a bad friend. Seriously though, when you change your online behavior and become less available,

You might get some pushback or feel less connected.

communicate clearly with the people you love. You have to create that boundary with yourself,

with your employer, with your family and you also have to advocate for yourself. You need to say,

this is something that I'm doing for me for my health and I'm going to try to do this so I can change my lifestyle for the better. I can actually focus on my tasks instead of being distracted every other minute because I'm having a conversation in the seventh group chat. You might be ready to ditch Facebook or Instagram or dip out of some group chats but worry that your friendships will suffer the consequences. Sammy has some advice for you. I think that a big resistance to social

media and getting off social media is that you'll lose friends. I would say that social media makes us think that we're supposed to have countless close friends, but relationships take time and the really great thing about rolling back your social media use is that it kind of helps you see which relationships were kind of a bit shallow, which there's nothing wrong with that at all because

that's human nature. Like we have acquaintances and we have people who we know through certain contexts.

But if the relationship is meant to stay, it will and it's kind of rewarding in that way to realize which friendships and which relationships are in it for the long haul. And if you start talking to people in person about your efforts to spend less time on your phone, you might realize that they are trying to do the same thing. They're strengthen numbers when you're more present around other people and not like checking your phone constantly. They end up being more present too.

It feels really good to be present with somebody and when you are making changes in your life and other people see how much happier you are than it does end up spreading to other people. That brings me to take away five. Think about all the time you used to spend on your phone as a gift to yourself. Now you have so much more time to put towards the things that matter to you. When you get to the end of your life, the sum total of all the things you paid attention to

will have been your life. If there are some friendships there that you never actually paid any

attention to, well you didn't really have those friendships, right? I mean if there was an interest that you had that you never actually spent any attention pursuing, well you didn't really have that interest. So it really matters what we're paying attention to because it just needs to just add up to a life. Oliver Berkman is the author of 4,000 weeks time management for mortals. It's about how to manage the limited time we have on earth which if you live to 80 comes out to about

4,000 weeks. And even if you're incredibly lucky in terms of your life span, it's still going to be a very hard limit and this has lots of ramifications that must fall how we think about using our daily time that I think we don't pay an attention to. If you're paying attention to the things that on some level you don't want to be paying attention to, you're just giving away the only precious thing you have. Since I switched to simpler phones, I've been able to recover a lot of

those habits that I used to have in university, reading books, better sleep, exercising, walking, just going out and thinking about my day and having better relationships. And I was able to at the same time start a hobby to help people find what's the best path for them. So I guess I gain a lot of skills and a lot of different things during this time period that have made my life more satisfying. Why not use your newly available time to move your body to make some art? To gather with friends,

host a gathering that excites you. Here's what Priya Parker author of the art of gathering told me.

The best way to get a seat at the table is to host the table. And I think right now,

everybody's longing for community. We long to be part of a village. We long to have people come over and help us, but when's the last time you've hosted something? And Sammy says that, yeah, breaking your phones hold on you is hard. But on the other side, you kind of get this period of like almost reclaiming your life. And I don't mean to sound dramatic, but that's really how it felt, where I was like, oh my god, I can do anything I want with my time. And I forgot. I forgot that I'm

an adult who can do whatever I want. You know? Okay, time for recap. Take away one. When you want to reach for your phone or you think, I should check Instagram for the hundredth time today. Notice how you feel in that moment and how your body feels. Do the same thing during a scrolling session and after. And try resisting the urge to scroll. Maybe move your body instead. Take away two. Increase the friction. Make it harder to use your phone. Make the phone

less enticing. Take away three. Don't keep your smartphone tablet or computer in your bedroom

Overnight.

ring you're turned to all the way up in case of an emergency call. Take away four. When you change

your online behavior and become less available, you might get some pushback. You want to prepare

for that and communicate clearly with the people you love. And take away five. Take all that time

you used to spend on your phone and put it towards the things that matter to you. That's our show.

For more life kit, check out our other episodes. We have one with Diana Hill and Katie Bowman,

a biomechanist. They co-wrote that book together about how to crave movement instead of your

smartphone. Also, we love hearing from you. So if you have episode ideas or feedback you want to share,

email us at [email protected]. This episode of Life Kit was produced by Sylvie Douglas and Mika

Ellison. Our digital editor is Monica Greeb. Meghan Kane is our senior supervising editor and Beth Johnovan is our executive producer. Our production team also includes Andy Tagle, Claire Marie Schneider, and Margaret Serena. Engineering Support comes from Tiffany Veda Castro. I'm Mary Elsa Garra. Thanks for listening.

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