Once you have a child like what it's like like all of a sudden nothing's impo...
yourself to move out them. So, you know, I wanted to set a good example for my son so
“after I met him, I, you know, I wanted to better myself. So, I went to law school to become”
a lawyer. I had no intentions of ever going to law school and being a lawyer and he inspired me to do it. It's something like nature takes over and you know, just want to be a better person, be a role model for your kid. I can't fathom what I would be doing today. Had that meeting in Central Park not happened. You know, I was the first person to go to college, you know, on my mom's side, that moment just changed everything and it inspired me, you know,
it inspired him and then. Alex and Edward Kapazi are for medical, strategic, and relentless certified civil trial attorneys and leaders at Brock Eichler injury lawyers armed with their extensive
courtroom expertise and multi-million dollar track records. They helped injured victims and ordinary
families fight for justice against negligent corporations, empowering them to rebuild their lives and setting a new standard for legal accountability. The one thing I didn't have was a, not, I didn't have a mentor. So, I kind of kind of learned everything on the fly and on my own, everything I was learning in law school was teaching him. Oh, we were driving. So, he had a little bit of edged heart. There was a lot of self doubt at first. Can I do it? Can I do it? The way he
does it and, um, it spans the goal. Like a super high school, injured and held it. Today, Apple is going to reinvent the phone. It's not over, I'm telling how we are. The living your legacy podcast for those who live to leave a legacy. Open, check how the was the way you said. Oh, it's about just not on the planet. You can live your dream. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the living your legacy podcast.
I'm your host for today, Jason Tyler. And today, I am joined by only my second father son duo to make it into the studio. We have Edward and Alex Kaposi. Welcome to the show guys. Good to be here. Thanks for having us. Now, you guys just finished recording your episode. First of all, how do you feel now on the other side of it? A little tired, but I'm good. We'll talk it out. Yeah, you know, it can be a grueling process, you know, sitting there talking to a camera for 90
minutes. But you guys were in there with one of our best interviewers shout out to Kofi. And I'm not just saying that guys because he's outside of the room looking at me right now. What would you say,
“Edward, is the number one lesson you want people to be able to take away from your story?”
Well, it was like a one in a billion story. You know, I met my son when he was 10 years old. Both of us didn't know each other or about each other. And in Central Park, New York,
that's where I was living at time in New York City. And it was just, I mean, and I always say this
could not have turned out any better because it could have been a disaster. I was a single guy at the time, you know, with the old parenting skills and no intention of having kids, you know, anytime soon. So it was definitely a life changing, but it did work out amazing. If you could go back to that time and show the Edward of that time, the single guy in New York, if you could show him a photo of the two of you guys sitting here today, what do you think it would say?
He wouldn't believe it. Now, for Alex, you know, this whole experience has been a little bit new for you coming into media coming into podcasting, what is your impression of, you know, just what it takes to get to this level that you guys have been able to achieve together? Yeah, it takes a lot of work. Obviously, it takes a lot of long days, a lot of long nights. Fortunately, we've been able to, you know, figure out the recipe for success and, you know,
hopefully, you know, the people that are watching, you know, will, you know, learn a thing or two and, you know, maybe it'll inspire somebody. So, you know, we're happy to be here. You know, we're happy to be involved. It's been a pleasure and there's what thank you for having us. Of course, of course. And, you know what? You said exactly the reason why we're here at
“Insight Success is if your story can inspire one other person to just make a simple action”
and go on to be successful, we won. We did it. We did exactly what we're here for. So, walk me back now to, you know, you meet your son at 10 years old, you're in New York. How do we go from there
to where we are here? Well, I always, uh, something I, I say a lot is it, it was like nature versus
nurture. So, when you, you know, anybody who's a parent will learn, you know, we'll know, once you have a child like what it's like, like all of a sudden nothing's important about yourself.
To them out of them.
I, you know, I wanted to better myself. So, I went to law school to become a lawyer. I thought that would be a great example, you know, for my son. And, uh, you know, I didn't know it at the time, but then he went to law school when he got older. And then the next thing, you know, we'll work together. And I would have been working together probably close to 15 years. And it's been just amazing. What was it about law school that made you say, you know what?
That's the route. That's the, well, it wasn't the route actually that I wanted to take my brother
“is a lawyer. And he, he would, he would constantly tell me, you got to go to law school. You should”
go to law school. Because I was always a very smart guy, but I didn't think I was living my,
uh, life to the full potential that I was capable of. So, he would always, like, kind of, say, you got to go to law school. You should be a lawyer, you know, but I never wanted to be a lawyer, ever. So, I really did it, you know, just, not only it's a noble profession, but I did it, because I just wanted some security in my life. You know, at that time I was in pay check to pay check. And, you know, no real direction of what I was going to do, um, but this, you know, meeting
Alex, changed everything and motivated me to go to law school. And then, little did I know when I became a lawyer and really realized that, you know, you could be a really good lawyer, if, you know, you could get out the attitude for it. And you're like, oh, man, I was putting this off and now I'm actually good at it. Well, if you could make yourself good at it, it takes a lot of hard work, you know, and some, some, some, you know, talent. But, um, you know, I didn't realize
what it could actually become, you know, how you could actually change other people's lives, you know, by just doing an excellent job. And I want to touch on that specifically, right? Like, what, what specific practice are you guys in? What personal injury lawyers got you got you. So, what was it about, you know, you go into law school, you go and you become a lawyer, but not every lawyer is going to start their own firm or, you know, go out higher other people, rate, and create a
“legacy, make you guys have? What was it? Was there a moment where you just decided, you know, what?”
I'm going to really just ride this thing to the wheels fall off. When I first started out, you know, I worked for a large firm in Philadelphia, and then Alex was a senior in high school at the time, and he was, people had a lot of sports, and I wanted to see him play, because I had actually you hadn't seen him play, for the years before that, because I was in school. So, I moved to New Jersey, Northern New Jersey, and so I watched his senior year of him playing basketball, soccer,
and things like that, and I was got very lucky, because I worked for a small firm who gave me the opportunity to try cases, which is really important for young lawyers. You know, if you work for a
big firm, you're like the 25th person on the totem pole, you're never going to get to try a case.
So, here I was the look guy, and I just started trying cases and winning, and quickly became a partner, I was arguing in front of the Supreme Court, within about a year and a half. You know, then I started my own firm shortly thereafter, and then started a second firm, and then about 10 years ago joined the firm, I'm at now Brock Eichle, which is 95 lawyer firms, which is fairly big firm. But, you know, a lot of hard work. I had to make up for what I didn't
“know with just hard work. That's what I did. I literally worked seven days a week.”
You know, 15, 20 hours a day to catch up to the other people, because I didn't know how to do it. So, I didn't learn it. You know, I think a really important part to this, and this is something that I talked to a lot of guys here on the podcast about is just the concept of mentorship, right? And I think you guys story really, really accentuates that, right? Being able to have someone believe in you and give you the shot, right? And then to take that, pay it forward and say,
hey, Alex, you're in law as well. Like, I'm going to mentor you. How important is that? Oh, it's extremely important. See, the one thing I didn't have was a, I didn't have a mentor. So, I kind of kind of learned everything on the fly, you know, on my own, which actually, in the long run, it makes you a better lawyer because you're figuring out everything on your own. Not only Alex, but we have a lot of lawyers that I've, I've mentored over the years. I wrote a
very successful book on, quote, "The Domino Theory." It's on about how to handle basically a personal injury lawsuit. And I lectured all over the United States on that book. So, I'm teaching
orders constantly. And the most important thing I always tell them is you got to be yourself,
you know, write your own book, be yourself. But, you know, me and Alex, you know, just drive. And when he was a, you know, I was, I'm in law school. He's, you know, probably about 13, 14 years old, we've gone long road trips, go to different baseball games and different sporting
Events all over the place.
I would be driving. So, he had a little bit of edged heart. And then he became the final boy of my office. And then, you know, when he started law school, he became a law clerk. So, he was around the law. You know, his entire youth. So, it did, I guess it helps because when it's constantly being drummed
“into your head every day, you know, kind of wears off. And so, I think that was a good experience for him.”
And Alex, you know, going back to that time those early days, did law kind of jump out at you or was it like your dad said, just kind of being drilled into you over time. And then you kind of figure out you haven't aptitude for it. What was your, what was your experience of like finding your path in law? Yeah, before I met him, I had no clue, you know, what I was going to do. You know, I don't know if I was going to be an astronaut or I would say, like, if you had a clue at
10, I would have been pretty impressed. You know, I look at back, I just have, you know, I think about it all the time. You know, I can't fathom what I would be doing today. Had that meeting in Central Park not happened. You know, I was the first person to go to college, you know, my mom's side. You know, my mom was the one who who was raising me. And that moment just changed everything. It inspired me, you know, and inspired him. And then it created this bond, you know, that we had,
you know, once he decided to go to law school, there was never anything else that I ever wanted to do.
You know, I thought it was really cool, you know, even just going, like he was saying, going to these games and talking about the law and learning these basic, you know, legal principles, you know, on the car ride, just, you know, be messing around. I thought it was really cool. And, you know, it was, it was just such a fateful, you know, good fit, you know, and then, you know, he started succeeding and, you know, I didn't know, you know, whether I was going to be able to, you know, be good at it either.
“You know, so there was a lot of self-doubt at first. Can I do it? Can I do it the way he does it?”
And, you know, over time, you know, I was able to figure out my own way, you know, my own way to do things that kind of fit with my personality. And it was just, it was almost fate. The way things happened. That was, that was going to be my next question is how much to, and this is for both of you guys, how much do you believe in fate? I think the odds by which, you know, we had to overcome to put us sitting here today are astronomical. I mean, if you knew just truly the adversity that he went through
in his life and the adversity, you know, that I went through and the adversity we've gone through
together, you know, practicing to be sitting here right now, it's one in a billion, you know,
chances of that that moment in central park would lead to this moment. It's truly remarkable and, you know, I'm really happy to be a part of it. You're take on fate. I didn't believe in fate, but I do now. Yeah, it was, it wasn't inevitable. It became inevitable, you know, like what we were going to do, but, you know, we both were learning, you know, in the beginning. I, like I said, I had no intentions of ever going to law school and being a lawyer and he inspired
me to do it. I could say that it's something, it's like nature takes over and, you know, just want to be a better person for me to be a role model for your kid. So that's really what happened. And guys, just for the audience out there watching, if you're still watching at this point, in, in the interview, I want to make sure that you guys check out their episode of America's top lawyer. It's going to be coming out shortly after this podcast. Errors, you're going to get the full
breakdown on their story. The trials, the tribulations that you guys had mentioned, like, in any one that I speak to in these chairs, we all know, in business, you're going to have ups and downs in law. You're going to have ups and downs. Like, my family, they're all attorneys. My grandfather was one of the biggest attorneys in Jamaica. His law firm now, my aunt's all run it. My dad went to, well, my dad was a doctor. But they were all like, Jason, you would be, you got the gift to
the dad. He'd be a great lawyer. I was never, never in all my days. What I, but I respect the profession
so, so much. So I just want to give you guys your kudos. Like, it's not an easy road to take. And
“now look at you on the other side of it. It's worth it. Would you say? Yeah, I think, you know, when you”
have the knowledge, you know, that you, that you have basically, you know, absorbs into your body from law school, for example, you know, you learn so much stuff. And it's so empowering. It's,
It's a powerful thing to have.
is full of this knowledge and it's very empowering. So, I mean, I, when I graduated law school, I was so happy that I just had all this knowledge. I think everybody should, should have that knowledge. I mean, I think everybody should take some law classes just to be able to navigate life. You know, going to run into a lot of things in your life where you need a lawyer. Mm-hmm. My grandfather's going to hate this. But all right, maybe I'll go take a law class or
too. But as we kind of wind down here, there's this one key question that I ask. Everybody that comes on this show, we're here. We're at inside success studios. Between two of you guys,
“and I'll get one answer from one one last from the other. But what is your number one key for success?”
Hard work, passion. You have to be passionate about it. When I go to work, and I used to work very early in the morning, you know, I'm kind of on the down slope of my career. Now, I'm not going to be doing this forever. But when I first started, I would leave my house for 30 in the morning, go to work. I'd have a smile for me to hear on my face. And I would work
all day. I just loved it. So I never felt like I was working. Mm-hmm. And if you're passionate
about something like that, I mean, the law is something that's very detailed. So it takes a lot of time to actually totally understand it. And this constantly in new cases coming out, and they're, you know, it's evolving constantly. And there's a lot of, you have a lot of competition. And if you're going to try cases, the person on the other side wants to beat you as bad as you want to beat them. And also, I think, you know, sports is very important. Like if you're an athlete,
you're an athlete, you're a competitive. Mm-hmm. That's what it is. The best lawyers or former athletes do literally want to kill each other in that courtroom. It almost comes to that a few
“times. But, you know, that's the key to what you got to be passionate about. It's just like anything”
in life. You're passionate about it. And you want to be excellent. But nothing worse, you know, then be an average. I think in any profession you do whether you're a plumber or a carpenter, you have to do an excellent job. You have to do good work. You have to take pride in your work. I don't know if we have that anymore. I mean, if look at justice, the architecture from the past, how did they do that? Is every apartment look copy and pasted now? Yeah. It's all just
the same white countertops, gray walls. You got the same silver sink in every apartment. And they slap the term luxury on it. And they're like, yeah, this is luxury. What do you mean? Yeah, it's just I don't think people take pride in, you know, not everybody obviously does exceptions to everything. But for generally speaking, I think, there's no pride in what you do anymore. That was a garbage man. You know, I took pride in it. I ran that round. I put the cans down
perfectly on the curb and then just throw them. You know, I didn't took pride in what I did.
You know, no matter what I did, I always took pride in it. To do a good job. You know, I learned
after my father. And Alex, what is your number one key for success? Probably just the relentless thirst to be great. You know, success could be defined a lot of different ways. You know,
“if you want to be truly great at something, you know, greatness, it takes sacrifice. And, you know,”
this is kind of stuff that he's always instilled in me. You know, he told me what I was a, you know, a young kid. There's nothing worse in life than being average. You know, these are things I, you know, I really took serious. So whatever business you're doing, you could always do more. You could always work harder. You could always learn more. So that's what, you know, I tried to do. And so especially as a newer attorney who's going up against the lawyers that were 20 years,
you know, older than me, more experience, more polished, smoother, new all the tricks of the trade. I had to try to find a way to bridge that gap. So I've read every book. I could possibly get, you know, on trial advocacy, on jury psychology. You know, I really want to know the rules of evidence better than the other lawyers. And, and essentially, the number one thing is, you know, I'll work them. I knew the file better than them. You know, I was willing to really push my body
to the limits, you know, very little sleep. And this is over the course of weeks, you know, no sleep, you know, no food really. Just basic things, you know, are challenging during that week. And those are the kind of the things you got to do to just to be great. No matter what profession it is, you know, just relentless, you know, dedication, you know, to the craft. You know, one thing I will say as I'm kind of just listening to you guys' story. And I get to
sit here with the both of you. First of all, I'm honored. And thank you for coming on the show.
And thank you for being with us. You're so ours. Oh, you know, you know what you guys remind me of? LeBron and Brani. LeBron and Brani James. You are in such a unique position as a father to be able to be LeBron James just dropped 28 and 7. And his son is on the floor with him
While his mom is in the stands.
playoffs together. You are in a similar position as a father to be able to watch your son
be passionate and be good in the same thing that you were so passionate and so prideful and
that not many fathers get to experience that. So I just want to say congratulations because that's
“awesome. Thank you. I think that is so, so awesome. So guys, if you're still tuned in at this point,”
make sure, make sure, I can't stress this enough. Make sure you check out their episode of America's Top Lawyer coming out soon, coming out right after this podcast episode,
“airs, you're going to get a full deep dive into their story. Where can people find you guys on the”
world-wide web, Instagram, all the social media's, the Domino Lawyers, my Instagram handle. I wrote the book called The Domino Theory, our website for our law firm is NJ LawResults.com. We're based primarily out in New Jersey, but we work in America.
“Shout out to New Jersey. I got family in West Orange. So that's what?”
Don't you live in West Orange? Well, you guys don't know. There's one more person in everyone with us.
You may or may not be from West Orange. I'm not going to answer that for you. You'll never know.
But again, this has been another incredible episode of The Living Your Legacy Podcast. Thank you again guys for joining me today. It's been an extreme pleasure and for you guys out there, I will catch y'all in the next one.
