How a Divorced Engineer Built a $5 Million Relationship Marketing Career

It was horrible to see the end of it. And so those are the kind of things that motivate you to leave. You know, just live the healthier lifestyle. And if I can make, you know, extra income from helping people live healthier lives, do that's a win.

Jason D. Bold is a relationship driven, strategic, and highly experienced relationship marketer, and the founder of a pro network marketer. Helping businesses grow through authentic connections and trust-based networking.

Ultimately, for me, it comes back to helping other people get what they want.

And if you focus on that from an honest, caring, empathetic perspective, like,

“even if you're not making millions of millions of dollars, you're already wealthy, right?”

I'm no better than anybody else, like, sometimes I have bravery and I embrace fear, but, like, as I learned stuff, I just talk about it, and with the hopes that it helps impact other people before they want, like better. That's the purpose. It spans the globe.

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“What will we learn about you besides being in a adorable, being in an older environment?”

Being dead? You'll help me, Dad. Yeah, I've got a lot of experience with network marketing, and I like to use a term relationship, marketing, and get a network marketing because you're really building relationships, not just a network.

So, yeah, I want to utilize that experience and knowledge, which has primarily been in the health and fitness fields, and parlay that over to another company and make an opportunity for other people to come over, basically who just want to live longer, happier, more fulfilling lives. You know, one of the things that really drives me is society, so messed up right now.

If it's like, you know, like when it comes to the politics, or like the amount of wealth separation, that's just worse, really. But also like, you know, health and nutrition, like it seems agreed in the wrong things,

and I've always been concerned with supplementation, and one of the big problems, it's almost

“impossible to see if it's working for you.”

Right. I've seen, you know, health coaches and triathletes that look great in the outside, but on the inside, they're kind of like rotting away, and then you see all the different diseases, right, my mom just passed from dementia, Alzheimer's, and all these things are complicated by the foods that we eat and the environments that we're in in the stress, and so I would love

to create, you know, financial opportunity that helps people get fit on both physically and financially. I love how you're tying both of these worlds together. I'm going to lean a little more on the network marketing first, just because I'm going through this experience, you know, by the way, you are 52, I'm 42, I almost feel like your future me, or I'm going through this, you know, network marketing experience with a financial

advisor. And at first, I saw a lot of red flags, like, oh, this is too good to be true. But then I'd want to dive deeper and being part of the Tony Robbins tribes and being part of these fellowships, I'm like, well, it is about, you know, serving, it is about sending the elevator back down.

So I'm starting to make that correlation, and we're at the eve that we're having a huge summit with a lot of leaders, a lot of folks here in Miami. Miami has become really a mecca of entrepreneurs, and I'm born and raised in Miami. The Miami I know is resilient, and very Miami. So it's, it's a homecoming for me to have you sitting in this chair sir and talk about

network marketing, and I love this analogy you use about going out to the beach by yourself, but, you know, selling t-shirts, but it wouldn't be more, way more fun selling shirts with 10 of your friends, to 100 people. Talk about your philosophies of network marketing, and, you know, a little bit of future casting, we're living in a dichami where, you know, loneliness is making money, a lot

of men aren't having children, a lot of women aren't having children, families are such a passe thing, it's the lone wolf, and lone wolfs need a thriving make money. You found a solution that ties it all in together. Yeah, I've really been fortunate, you know, making a wealthy career out of things that

it, and's like health and fitness, and being into all that stuff for, you know, the last 50 years is kind of like brought me to where I'm at.

So like, I just, I think it's an awesome opportunity, like ultimately, for me, it comes

back to helping other people get what they want. And if you focus on that from an honest, caring, empathetic perspective, like, even if you're not making millions of millions of dollars, you're already wealthy, right? For sure. And then what you want, you help another people.

For sure. You're a little jealous of Bella just hanging out here too, and I was like, I get her all the other things. I was just going to say, I could just get the easily become the Bella podcast. But you literally went through what most men either experience, because it's part of being

a man, you know, either a separation. But you go through this evolution, you go through this ego death, where I'm tired of sitting at home, feeling successful, but I'm really not, because playing video games all day and being free of constraints isn't really success. Yeah.

Do you want to test it? And you want to much more than just, you know, that was the first divorce, like, I really don't spend a lot of time playing video games.

“That's how I knew I was at a bottom point after that.”

There's still the roller that man. I was sitting home. I was playing like Harry Potter. Do you know what? Well, that's not good.

Harry Potter's not a copy of their video game. Oh, yeah, no. And again, I had to play the hot dogs next to me, and, you know, beer to empty night. Next to me, and I'm like, why am I not getting dates? And I'm like, well, who wants to be part of this illustrious environment?

Like, it just wasn't sexy, right? Yeah. No, like, and then I'm like, what is important to me? What do I value? And I was thinking about the relationship I want to have with that woman look like, then

who would she be attracted to? And that guy did more adventurous things. Like, he got into kiteboarding and skydiving. So I ended up doing all these things that I enjoyed anyway. And then it did bring the life that I wanted.

So any time that, you know, you go through a separation or change in life, you know, think about the end goal in mind. Like, what do you want to achieve if that's a relationship, if that's travel, if it's freedom? And then, you know, what are the steps that you're going to take to get you there?

And I mean, that's, I've done well at doing that. Have you ever watched a film American Beauty? American Beauty, right? I highly recommend that I feel like it's essentially what you transitioned into, where it's like, you've come into your own words, like, no, dude, I want so much more for

myself. I don't want the standard traditional thing that was created and choreate for me or the things that I've been advertised to think I'm supposed to become. I highly recommend you watch that film when he's working on the garage. Yeah, that's the one.

“Yeah, yeah, you should definitely watch you.”

Yeah, yeah, it's great. Great.

Some of his earlier work, which I still think I've come to space as an amazing actor.

Talk about your transformation and how you, you, you, you essentially shared that information, but you're not only sure that information through vlogging and social media, you actually have a product that you somehow met as fast as it, because you met someone that's been in your life for a very long time, Charles. Yeah, yeah.

And you were on this calling, like, holy shit, dude, this call was supposed to happen. Talk about that journey. Really was. Yeah, so the way that I built, you know, at least the previous career was just kind of like, if this, if this average joke can do it, you know, then that gives me inspiration that

I can do it too. Because when I started that, I think a 34, some of them, I'm like, who's going to be inspired by this 34 year old divorce engineer, you know, whatever, like you put the bad thing as you can in your head. With great hair, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but it turns out that

if you put yourself out there and in the best food forward, trying to achieve the dreams that you want, there's going to be a lot of other people inspired by that. And it's not that you're up on some pedestal. You're just one step ahead of somebody else that's on the same journey. For like, I'm no better than anybody else.

They can sometimes I have bravery and I embrace fear, but like, as I learned stuff, I just talk about it. And with the hopes that it helps impact other people, what they want, like that's the purpose man. Right on.

I want to talk about your product. Yeah, the product. This thing is hell of cool. It looks like stuff. Why out of them?

I appreciate that, like. Face X side quest. So yeah, a little bit about it is like, you know, I spent 18 years in that remarketing, you know, I had a successful career.

“I think I made a total of almost $5 million and it was 18 years or sounds like a lot, but”

he'd break down year by year, like, not crazy.

But one of the things I always struggled with is that we were promoting supplements for

the company. And I just, like, something about me, it's like, yeah, I feel better. Yeah, I'm getting bigger muscles or whatever. But like, how do I know that my body needs this? So again, the example for me is when triathletes and fitness coaches take a health test.

And they figure out their numbers on the inside are horrible. Like that, that's not how, right? It's external look good, but you're fit on the outside, we're not fit on the inside. So it's always been important to me, like, figure out why we need supplements or what

In fact, one year, my wife and I spent, like, $50,000 to get, like, hormone therapy and

blood tests, up the Wah-Zoo, and at the end of it, I didn't feel like I knew much more about myself.

“Did you get a PDF with, like, color, glancing stuff?”

Yeah, that's about it, right? So yeah, when I met my body, I was looking for a bunch of different companies. I looked into DNA testing, blood testing, everything else. And I got recommended to this other company because the one that I was looking at didn't have a great future.

And so I'm like, yeah, I know somebody at that company, at least he used to be on what's his name. So, and so, and when that person, through networking, right, put me back on an information call, which is, like, their system for building this, which was really impressive. Just as impressive as the individual is the system.

We got on the call on my K Charlie, he's like, hey, Jason, how you doing? Like, we had known each other for 15 years, back from doing personal development. Wow.

And that just felt like, you know, some sort of divine intervention, like something to pull

this right. So I was interested in the company because they have a longevity there in the top. One or zero point zero, one percent of all the 65,000 network marketing companies that have been out there since the 70s. So it's like, in one of the top two or three ever created, I liked the property, I liked

the longevity, I liked the leverage aspect of the income building and the people that are around it. But this was it. Like, when I found out that they had a device like this, they can just put your hand down.

And it scans your skin to see the cartenoid levels and the cartenoid levels come from eating fresh fruits and vegetables that add antioxidants to your system and the more antioxidants that you have, the better your body does against free radicals, free radicals known to be one of the things that causes premature aging. Yep.

So this is a tangible way to see if the supplements that you're taking are working. And this, this is a pretty modular device. You could take this one. This works great. And doctors offices and gyms like people come in one to week or a month and get scanned.

But this is like a $2,500 device.

“I think there's only 2,000 in the world.”

Right home. So it's not, you know, in every American home, that the new innovation, this is what has the most excited about, is that they're going to take all this same information and they're going to break it down to the size of this. Because I don't have the new one yet, like it's so new.

It hasn't come on.

Now, I'm one of the first 200 people in the world to get one.

So I get one here in the next 15 days. So by the time these podcasts and information come out like this will be available. But instead of $2,500, this is going to be like less than $400, it goes in every American house. Like you just put your thumb or your finger on it and it's going to give you this nutritional

health course within 20 seconds that now gamifies nutrition. It takes the guesswork out of it. So you know, do I need vitamins? Yes. Why my number is low?

Are my vitamins that I'm taking working?

“Yes, because the number is getting better.”

Does it have to be our vitamins? No. Like, of course I would want you to take our vitamins. But if you have a nutrition plan and supplement plan that's working for you, this is just a tangible way to test it.

And if you don't have the supplements that are working for you, ours are guaranteed to make that scanner score go up or they're free. Wow. I can't beat that. No, that's amazing.

It's crazy because in my tribes, you know, when vitamin health centers were a thing, you know, I actually BSN very early on was a client, my one Ronnie Coleman, Mr. Olympia himself, was a client of mine. Back in the day, I was like, "Great, all these supplements in the other way, you can kind of tell their work and is by kind of disciplined looking at yourself and the mirror

and lifting everything is repetitively." And then a couple of weeks, you might experience change. And then the other solution was shooting laser beams into your eyes. Great. You said it was not a great idea.

And then talk about the, how it was being measured before this device. Well, you talked about, you know, getting a laser beam shot in your eye. But that's the original way that Utah University came up with measuring these anti-oxidants. Something they would shoot like a blue laser in your eye. That measures the cartenoids which come from the fruits and vegetables and it defrax

back instead of a blue light, a green light. And they measure that defraction and they can tell how many cartenoids you have, which is a strength of your antioxidants. So that technology is actually what this has come down to. And, you know, our company has patents on all this.

So it's like not like you're going to see the beam produced at Walmart. Right. Like it's a technology we've worked on for the last 25 years. But yeah, even though I love the idea of tangible deterministic way to determine if when nutrition is working for me, not sure I'd go in every week or definitely not

every day and put a laser in my eye. That would scare the poop out of me. Yeah.

of the fear. Which is absolutely not necessary. Right. If we can break that fear down to like a hockey puck that you put your finger on. Yeah.

Yeah. Like for me, I'm an obsessive like, um, tester later and your 20 robins says, you know, you're asking about some of the personal to vote 20 robins says anything you want to improve you should measure.

So it's like, I would like to test when I wake up after I take my first death or

then it's like after a workout and with doing this, like there's not a limit. There's not like a price tag on how much individually you do. Like you pay for this one time and test for the rest of your life. You, your family, your friends and it gamifies nutrition. Absolutely.

So that's that's information. Let's just a smidge. Okay. So no, no. You're good.

Was there any blood prickling? Did you prick yourself? Like how is it measuring the good stuff? How does this work? You know, a 50 year old man.

So like I do heroin, heroin therapy and I work mess with all of that.

“And yeah, like one of the things that you have to do is prick your finger 25, 20 times.”

You got to squeeze it in this bubble and put it in and send it out. And like I just did that and the company's like, oh, it didn't work. Yeah. I'm like, you guys do not make the disease. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's all these different things out there. So how does it matter?

It literally takes your finger print. So like this one is just this small little laser on the back that you put your hand on. Not your retina anymore. Just put your hand out.

But they're taking that same device and getting rid of all this mass and it's going to fit in a hockey puck. And so literally it's like taking a finger print. But what that does is again, it shoots a blue laser into your skin. You got to end skin is more consistent than blood because blood could be affected by your

last meal. Yes. By checking your skin, you get a more consistent level that maybe is slower to influence. But like once, you know, it works, like it works.

“And that's why our guarantee like you take this for two or three months if you don't see”

it change like then that's when it becomes free for you. Sure. And reimbursed. Harry, you may or we not want to use this part, it's just devil advocacy here.

For folks that are watching her, they're seeing this amazing device.

I think immediately of thermos, someone else is attractive, but a blonde woman with a deep voice. And she was hustling this vision of like, you know, the prick yourself anymore. You can just, we can see all this data off of just the drop of your blood. And if you're familiar with a thermos story, now she's, I think she's in jail and there's

a, like, like, three different Netflix documentaries on this individual, that was the ultimate network marketer, and essentially, hustle this amazing product for several years and it became vaporware is that this is not vaporware. Oh my gosh. No.

Okay. This is the application that I want to use. Sure. That's gone into this. Like, I would stake my life behind it later on.

Oh, no. In fact, like the last, you know, 40 hours, just to prepare for this and know everything. Like, I studied more than I ever have about it and broken it down. Like, we're doing words for words and stuff by stuff. Like, it's, it's one wavelength that goes into your body.

It's like a 429 megahertz, I think, blue laser and a different wavelength comes out, which is a green, which is a deflection of the cartonite's in your skin.

So yeah, the technology is amazing.

But yeah, no more blood poking. It's easy as a fingerprint. It tastes like some 20 seconds, like you let your kids do it, say, and like the really interesting thing in the future is that the next generation of the company will use all that information.

There's already 25 million scans, people that have done this. So every time, you know, and then we have information about what supplements they're taking. So now we can correlate back the supplements that are taking the results and the improvements that they get. So I'm most excited about using all this data, plus the data that comes from making this

even more accessible to the average American family, putting that all together with AI. And our company actually has purchased a DNA company. Now, that may require saliva, or, sure, sure. But if you can put that information on top of this data information, like, what could you do with that?

And I think long term with AI, they're going to get this down. And there's already, like, individual, national, um, vitamin packages or supplement packages that are more prone to, like, what you need in Africa when you're leaving Europe, because like, environmental conditions are different. So, you know, five, ten years down the road, you're going to be able to buy an exact prescription

“for exactly what you need to paste upon your cartonoid levels and DNA scan and potentially”

blood as well. I was just going to say folks were freaking out when their Facebooks were tracking them down with cookies and stuff, and folks were freaking out when they're, they're, they're magically they're getting advertised with things they were speaking about. And folks are going to freak out about five to 10, 20 years when they walk into a drugstore

and the drugstore AI knows everything about them because of the devices like this. It may sound scary, but it's going to optimize that funnel where it's like, I'm going

And because of technology, it's going to get me there quicker.

“You know, our company, I don't think it's going to market like that.”

Right. I'm going to rematch the pharmaceutical companies, um, but no, we've become our own pharmaceutical company. Great. There's, I've, I've been to the company.

How to produce a beautiful, I'm sure. I'm sure. And you talk, and they're like, there's a whole lab with glass windows. You can see the guys that are working on it. But they want to use that information to give you the best nutrition.

Absolutely. Yeah.

But they're not like, privately.

It wouldn't, it wouldn't. Confidential information. So no, no, like, that one movie with Tom Cruise, where they're scanning your retinas, and they can, to one scary spillberg movie, we won't talk about that. Yes.

There is a dystopian future out there, but like, I think this is the future that we want for health. Absolutely. So many reasons in your life, things that you can't change your genetics, um, you know, your family history, that if we can get some sort of measurement and guidance that helps

us theorists in the right direction, just live health here, and, you know, not have some of these horrible diseases. Sure. Again, my mom just passed from it was, it was horrible to see the end of it. And so those are the kind of things that motivate you to like, you know, just live the

healthier lifestyle, and if I can make, you know, extra income from helping people live healthier lives, do that's a win, man, no matter how much income it is.

“Right on to, yeah, yeah, uh, how can people find you and learn more about, you have to listen”

to this podcast or watching your episode or watching this podcast? Sure. Sure. Sure. Like, um, you know, the company's out there, and it just comes down to like, who you

want to choose as, you know, a partner to do this with. And so I think somebody with 18 years of experience that's done it is part of, like, the most profitable system in network marketing, because, you know, I worked with Charlie, Charlie worked with his mentor, his mentor worked in the business for 40 years before he died

in his own private lane crash, and made over $200 million, Charlie's been involved in the

business for about 20 years, made about 20 million, I was involved in the other company for 18 years and made about 5 million, so it's a combined what 70 years experience in 200 and $38 million, like, I'll work for you. Um, so yeah, no, just, um, Jason Debal, the website is a pro relationship marketer. And it's sort of like a play on words, it stands for an aspiring professional relationship

marketer. But yeah, no, at the website, like, what we do is we take, um, individual videos, short little clips people do on their everyday socials, like, hey, took my vitamins today and, like, my skin or skirt went off, and we'll take those videos and do some of their promotion and marketing for you, like, we've got a set system that works over and over is repeatable.

And I think that's one of the most proud of it's, like, I think some people get involved in network marketing and they're intimidated by social media, like, no, we'll teach, teach you the steps necessary to get it out there, to share your story, and then we'll do the marketing for you. Uh, it's, it's crazy. Now we're marketing actually is quite a phenomenon where once you break

that through that level of skepticism and understand that there's, it's a tribal thing, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's helping for friends, it's helping for friends. If you're passionate about t-shirts and you want to be at the beach all day, would you rather go and sell 10 t-shirts by yourself at the beach and be lonely or do with 10 friends and so

“100. I mean, that's what it comes around to and I choose to be more of a social bird than”

like a lone wolf. I guess, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaking of lone wolf, I would, would you like to talk about this little wolf for a moment? Yeah, and then we went through a separation about a year ago to where's this finalized now? Sad but true. Oh, and yeah, the one, the one female I could have lived with, I was like every time I came back home, she's sitting in the door and we heard, why is Daddy not talking to me? And so like Bella's my joy and my love

and my passion and right on, one of the reasons that we do all this, yep, absolutely. Take care of the people and the pets that you love. Yeah. Well, we'll dedicate this podcast to Bella here, this is her to Belle. Jason? Well, she's like a sleep. Jason, Jason, Jason, thank you so much for your time and energy and Bella's best out here. Love it, man. Thanks for giving me the opportunity. Yeah, really, yeah, I appreciate your time and great. I hope you had a great

morning. We're actually going to wrap up this podcast to stop some photos. But with that, this is Jason The Bowl and I'm Regretarians and we are inside success.