How a Motorcycle Educator Built a Safety Empire

Yeah, now, seven years later,

“I mean, we're training 70% of the state.”

Well, thousands of people year on average, it's just insane, it's, I get to figure out how to help people not die on mode there. - Christopher Johnson is a passionate road safety advocate, educator, entrepreneur, and the founder

of Washington Motorcycle Safety Training. Drawing from his experience as a professional driver, educator and coach, he is dedicated to creating safer roads by empowering riders and drivers through education, training, and community.

- Now, you're not treating the customer correctly. If you're saying sentences to start with I, if you're not honoring the people taking the time to take training and learn from you, then you don't belong at my company.

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- Hey, welcome back everyone to another episode of Living Your Legacy Podcast. I'm your host again, Jason Langen, and we're down here in the new South Beach studios. And we get the privilege to talk to some of the best

entrepreneurs in the country, the disruptors, the top lawyers, and I mean, honestly,

all kinds of amazing people.

But with our new show, Made in America, we do get the talk to these, you know, immigrants that came to America with the American dream and they've just used entrepreneurship to kind of, yeah, become a success,

and now they're sitting in our chair. So, yeah, we have a special guest here with a great accent, what's your name, where you from, and what's your business? - Excellent, well, thanks for having me.

The nickname is Christopher Johnson. My business is Washington, motorcycle safety training, and motion motor is safety training. That's a motorcycle school and a driver education, package contractor there in Washington State,

pretty much basically, yeah. And I'm a London boy originally from the East and the London, called me, or was they saying, you know, I mean, Dick Dying, Dying, Dying, Maryford. - My friend.

“- Okay, Jane, do you want to say, I live in the East?”

- I lived in Chimchimini. - Chimini, there we go. I lived in Chimchimini, Chimchimchimchimchuru. - Yeah, I lived there. - I lived in London for a bit. - Yeah, and they got, I wasn't three different places. I lived in Raynex, the Brick Lane, and then I lived in the street.

- It was a street cool. - And then I lived in, oh my God, there was a movie, on it. - Oh, I live. - Yes, I live there.

(laughing) I live there for a bit, you know? And then one place near the Chelsea Street. - He's a huge girl, I don't know man, I don't know man. - I just tried to, yeah, just tried to find good food.

You know, everything seems to be right over there. - But that's true, that's true. Everything was, when we were looking out the window, though, you get those chimneys, you know? - Totally, totally.

- Chimchimini is a real thing. - It's a natural real thing. - I mean, you know, I mean, historically boys where I know an East and a lot of me were chimneysweeps. - Yeah, we would climb up the chimney.

- Yeah, yeah. - And clean it, you know, which is great. - It's in the chimneys. - It's not so much my mother had to make me do that, but, you know, I might have climbed up a few things.

- Yeah, it was your business. - So motorcycles, right? - Yeah, I'm actually part of my life. - A huge, that's a massive part of my life, too. - Just love, yeah, use to kind of go around Northern Thailand

and just cruise the mountains, you know, and I'll see that's a different kind of riding, though. - Yeah, oh yeah. - You're not riding like, you know, Western World, built out European motorcycles.

- Yeah, you're riding whatever. - Well, we had some proper 250 dirt bikes. - Yeah. - Yeah, we also had some 350 crash rockets and then I had a 50, see what I mean?

- Yeah, yeah, and then-- - It's America, we get our ones. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So we got five. - We got six, all thousands.

- I know, I know. - And a gilly, yeah. - But then also, what else have I ridden? I used to have a Yamaha drag star, right? - Oh, that's a big bike.

- It's a good bike, you know, but it's all chromeed out and then the back, they put the suspension real though. It looks cool, but it messed with my back. - Oh, it is. - It's hard towels, but they call a hard towel,

you know? - Yeah, yeah. - I mean, you know, predominantly there's a lot of bikes in the United States that are hard towel because, you know, Harley's are a huge brand in America,

and I've read several wildies actually. You know, the first time I rode a Harley, this is what I discovered. I discovered the first time I rode a Harley that it doesn't lean, there's no lean angle

because you get a 40, 40 degrees of lean angle and you're scraping the bolts. - No. - Well, it's time I got to a corner, I was like, oh, okay, we did done. - Yeah, yeah.

- And then the second thing I realized as soon as I got back to the house, you do, you just polish a Harley,

you can't help it, you get off it, it looks amazing

to look at. - Yeah. - And you're like, I gotta start clean it. - And that's it, it's probably the bike I cleaned

- A nice, nice, nice, nice, really cool.

“- So you must have owned a platter of bikes, yeah.”

- Yes, well, I mean, that's just, I'm addicted. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - You really, I'm a, I'm a, he's Christian, since free hours since my last ride. - Yeah, yeah. - I can't do that.

- Yeah, if I'm not on a motorcycle, I'm not Abby, you know, he's like dirt bikes, pork bikes, you know, adventure bikes, I've had them all. I recently bought a Trive Bobber. That's a one-seat, classic looking cafe race.

I don't know, that's kind of cool, I just bought that. - Yeah. - And that's the only motorcycle I ride on the road on the regular basis to be honest. Most of the time I'm on a racetrack.

So I own the parking lot, school for 17 years and yeah, and I love it, you know, I partnered with the Yamaha Champions Riding School a few years ago, we wrote around in-house correctly

with their help, which is amazing.

And I started the company in 2009 at a storage unit. Just me, no online registration, you know, we used to have to take the credit card numbers, the old barracur, the I'm in, some motorcycle parts and at a pin-a-bowl, it has the whole lady across the street.

If I went outside, she called her please. - Yeah, yeah. - She said, actually pin-a-bowl and I used to put my foot out and stop the boys trying to come in because, you know, they're so young,

back then, they just wanted to play. And I was trying to take people's driving license numbers and credit cards. And it was a challenge, and I did all the bike maintenance, I did everything, and obviously talk to classes too.

But yeah, now, seven-ing years later, I mean, we're training 70% of the state. - Right. - We're helping that's math. - Well, 1,000 people a year on average,

it's just insane, it's like, it's wild. I go to one of our training sites now. And I went recently with my youngest son, it was known nothing but the company. And we were in the parking lot, and we left, you know what I mean?

And I said, you got back in the car, and we were driving, he said, "Hey dad, what's that?" He goes, "Some things changed." And I said, "What's changed?" And he went, "You're not in the parking lot anymore,

"but it sounds just like when you was." - Nice. - And I said, "Tell me more about that." - And he goes, "Dad, did you hear our happy?" "Those people were?"

- Yeah, yeah. - Everybody felt acknowledged. Everybody felt they were able to value. Everybody felt they should be there. - Wow.

- Include in the staff. And that was the main thing. - How old is it again?

- He just turned 16, he's got an amazing perspective.

- Wow, good guy, head on to show, that's amazing. - And he was the young lad that was put in diapers and left in that parking lot. How old is that one? - I mean, when I first started the company,

I think it was the second and third week of the company. I mean, a higher balance of instructors that were currently certified when I started with the company. - Yeah. - And I walked into the parking lot,

and one guy was, he was yelling at the customer. - You know? - Right, and I didn't like that, I didn't like that. And Max was maybe three and a half, Sam was not even a year, and I just changed the divers.

Got the little chairs out, got them the snacks and the little wooden book books. You know what I mean, that they used to read, and I just got my gear on, and I walked over to the chat,

and I just turned into, is that your motorcycle over here? - Yes, yes, yes.

“- It's a beautiful day, I think you should be riding it.”

And he says, "Well, you mean, I said, "You need a leaf." - No, I'm fine. - And he looked at me and he's like, "He's like, "Well, you mean, I need a leaf." He goes, "I'm an instructor, I went given not today."

- Yep, not here. - Yeah. - And it was like really, and then he's like, "Well, I'm a state certified mentor at a time." And I was like, "I'll see you later."

And I just turned around to the customers, "Hey, everybody, most Chris, I'm gonna be all me out today." - Yeah. - And I guess that story kind of put me on the map in Washington State with the motorcycle,

we're starting to call where it was like, "You're not treating the customer correctly. "If you're saying sentences that start with I, "if you're not honoring the people who have taken the time "to take train in and learn from you,

"then you don't belong to my company." - Yeah, yeah, right? - And I've got to be honest, now they pretty much self-pleased each other with that. - Yeah, especially in America.

- Oh, yeah, they always say the customer is always right.

- Absolutely. - And you know, I've been in America 21 years and I've been a citizen since I could be. I mean, and I know my rights. I remember doing the immigration's test,

and there was 10 questions, and when I got to number six, and I've got all six correct, and the immigration's officer turned around and said, "Alright, we're done."

And I was up, say, "I was pissed." I was like, "Where's my four other questions?" - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I studied 100 questions there. You know, I knew them all.

And it was madness. I mean, I remember him saying, "Okay, if the president's incapacitated "in the vice president who goes next." And at the time, it was Nancy Pelosi.

It was the first speaker of the house. - Okay. - And I said Nancy Pelosi, and the guy looked at me and he goes, "I don't need a name. "I just need a position."

- Oh, okay. - And I was like, "Oh, call on that." But relax. - But come on, be seriously, mate. I was like, "Yeah, I was like, "We're next, come on."

- But I think this should add a question, right? And keep it real, right?

“If you want to be like test if you're American or not,”

they should say, "Finish this sentence, right?" - Sure. - Don't break my heart. - Break your heart. - Break your heart?

- Yeah, I keep breaking heart, right? It's like, "Okay, man, you're an American, right?" - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - I get sticks sometimes when I'm presenting,

and especially at motorcycle clubs, you know what I mean? And sometimes I get heckled and they're like, "Hey, why should we listen to you, you're liming?"

Well, the Britsfink, you know what I mean? - We kick you out of it, we're in 70s, 70s, you know? - That kind of stuff. - That kind of stuff. - I love it though.

I love it. I mean, you get it, you get it from the vets, I'm of that. You know what I mean? It's super fun.

And then I always say to, "Hey, relax."

No, I don't turn around and say to, "Hey, do you know I'm American?" And they say, "How's it with one?" I pay my taxes. - Mm. - That's a lot.

I mean, two, I got a V8, I do have a five-litre Coyote, and one of the things I do, you know what I mean? And I don't even want them one gun. - Yeah. - I've been at pretty much constitutes me as American.

- Yeah, I mean, just, I go for it. But it's interesting, you know, when I moved there,

“- I think you should add one, you should add one.”

I mean, the vet, I say thank you for your service, right? - Yeah, for your service, yeah, yeah, I was about, but you know, I don't stand up, it's just me. But, you know, I did love it, when I moved there, I found the history, learning about the country,

and understanding the checks and balance process, and the democracy, and the way the country was structured in the first place, is actually very fascinating. If you take the time to actually learn it, yeah,

it is the precedence of a country where you can stand up and say,

you know, I want to get a better four, four, four, five today, and I'm gonna figure out, yeah. - Yeah, I mean, and then you can move forward. I mean, I moved forward five more, quick, you know, America, then I did in any other country.

- And that's what people don't realize. - No, a lot, yeah, it gets lost in the chatter, and in the privilege or whatever that they think they have, but they have to understand that they have an opportunity here. - Right.

- It's not as smooth in other countries, you know? - No, it's not. - You go to Thailand where, you know, I lived for 16 years, I had a nightclub and a concert company, and it's not a level playing field in terms of the law, right?

And then we were like, I can't wait to go back to the states to that, you know, the laws are laws. - Yeah, they said you've got parameters. - Correct, yeah, I like that a lot.

“I believe I was born in a great country,”

and I live in even the great one that matches me. I mean, it's like, I've been my brother two around and say it's me once, you know? I was visiting back one time and he was like, you know, make sense, you went to America.

And I said, boy, he goes, 'cause you're so loud, and you're so hot, you know what I mean? And it's like, 'cause the perception is, you know, Americans are loud and bullshit, 'cause English people literally think of Americans as Texans.

- Yeah, yeah. - And they don't think at all, for West, they don't think about the middle, you know, I mean, they don't think about the Central America. They just don't think about all these different, you know,

the Midwest, not even thinks about the Midwest. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a massive, I mean, sure, 'cause there's so, I mean, you travel around America, like I have done for 21 years now, and it's like, it's like a Europe, you know, when you drive around,

all these different cultures and all these different accents, the people, I mean, you know, you can go from North London to South London to get a different accent. - Yeah. - Well, let's bring it back to your business.

- Well, it's just about to say, you know, what I found really interesting is that having that background of being European, traveling, you know, I was a gymnast for Great Britain in the display team, I drove trucks 'cause you're at the seven years.

You know, I was in the forces, you know, I learned a lot of different things traveling around, mean different people, and it's really given me a strength with business, and as an educator, you know, because it doesn't matter what background

the customers got, they're not what the versatility of, where they're from, where they were born, you know, they're much money they make, it doesn't matter. When you put 16 customers together in a motel class, well, you take 25, 30 adolescent teenagers, young adults

and put them into a dry-oze class. There's so much diversity in different opinions in that space. - Yeah.

“- That you just, you have to be flexible.”

You've got to be at a pivot in the moment. And, you know, having one linear mind saying, this is the way to do things, just, that's what? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And so, what's made me a little bit different

in what I do is, is being European, for sure. Being a pressure, of, you know, having nothing, and then having a lot, you know what I mean, and I want more, you know, that's part of getting out of bed, but my job was amazing.

I get to figure out how to help people not die on motor vehicles and too many people die on motor vehicles. I started the business 'cause I read an I call, I was, I was, I was, I stay on dad. My boy was 10 months old.

- Yeah. - And I was married to the Vatavictorian doctor, an amazing lady, super smart, credit doctor, incredible, right? And I'm staying on dad. And I got diagnosed with depression, which was interesting,

and I'm just at this boy, why should I be depressed? - Yeah. - So I went to the councillor, you know, and you suggested you, you need to be doing something, you need to be giving back in some way,

you're about people.

You've always been part of a team or something,

you need to do that. So I went and found out about out of your motorcycle and structure and to be honest, I wasn't that impressed. But I signed up because, you know, when I moved to America, again, the license was pretty easy.

- Yeah. - Compared to doing it in Europe, and I was like, wow, this is terrible. And then I'm the only one left out, five good friends. They all died on the road. - Oh, wow.

- So I was like, you know, maybe I can do that for them, as a legacy, you know what I mean? 'Cause they were good guys, they just didn't know. I mean, and a lot of times people die purely on the road, because they just don't know what I don't know.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And that's what it is, really.

- Is there a number one way that people die on the road?

- Yeah, absolutely, yeah, it's a lack of knowledge. It really is, it's complacency and fear. That's literally how we lose control of our vehicles. - Yes. - In place, it gets us into the trouble.

- Yep.

“- And then the fear takes over, you know what I mean?”

And I learned this in the force it's a, when you got fear, you know, it's a chemical that actually loses, right? - Oh yeah, in the brain, right? And it's the same, so when you have an argument.

- It's more like a shot because it comes so quick. And if you don't have the mindset to stay in control, you're gonna lose it. - Right, so we educate our drivers and our writers to be responding my vehicle operators.

- Yeah, not reacting. So, you know, I can teach you the technique on, you know, 100 points of traction, get in direction before you have your speed and direction before you let go of the brakes.

There's all these techniques and stuff I can get complex. I mean, I coach professional sport bike races and I'm their sports coach. I can't teach them how to ride. - Yeah, that's so good.

- Yeah, of course. - But I am a sports coach, so I can get the mental part dialed in. You know, I've enjoyed doing that for Orange Cat Racing with the factory BMW team this year,

which has been really fun. - Amazing. - So, yeah, that's been a lot of fun, but the biggest thing that we focus on and we focus on something unique

that not a lot of I feel more of vehicle educators do is that we focus on them being a customer. We focus on their experience. - Yeah. - Because once they learn and how do you do that?

- Well, the most important thing is that they need

to know that we care. If they don't know that we care, then they're not gonna listen, they're not gonna learn. - So, you share the purpose of, hey, I do this 'cause I'm gonna air love motor bikes,

“but see, I mean, B, actually, I save lives, you know?”

- Yeah, I mean, that's the bold statement. When I say I save lives, I don't personally think I save lives. I personally think I create the opportunity for someone to save their life.

Of course, of course. - Yeah, I mean, so to say I save lives is a bit of a mar, you know, I can't say that. But I create a safe, effective and efficient environment every time where a customer feels value

where a person walks in and they know, hey, I'm not just here as a student. - Yep. - This is America, you're supposed to have great service. You know, the customer is bright.

- Yeah, yeah. - It's very true. If you don't think that's true, you're an idiot. - Yeah. - I mean, this is the American way, you know what I mean?

And so my goal right now is,

and it has been for 17 years and we're on the right pathway, is that I want everybody to know in America that the training has been sub-level for a very long time. I've got a very good friend of mine that actually lives here in Miami.

- Okay. - Is a retired O4 major from the United States Marine Corps, and he just wrote a paper explaining how motorcycle training has been deficient for over 30 years in America? - Oh, okay.

- And he was in charge of the United States Marine Corps, motorcycle training, and he couldn't get the standard of training that he wanted because it wasn't approved. - So is that a plan on the horizon to go national with some kind of training?

- Absolutely. - Hey, there you go. - Why would you not, this is America? - Yeah, yeah. - You gotta go.

- It's land of the free. And we think about this, it's like every American needs to know what has not been right for a long time to be honest. - Yeah. - Because this is America, and it's like as soon as we know

that we're not getting the best that's available, and 49 states aren't right now. - Yeah. - And he has state is because we got the curriculum at works. - Our curriculum is written from best techniques in the world,

what the best in the world is doing, just at a different degree of application. - Yeah. - It's written from how a motorcycle has actually designed. Atty engineers actually designed that thing

to slow stock and turn. - Our curriculum's written from the best proven techniques. - Yep. - And not from opinion. - Yeah.

- I just spoke to a gentleman this week, who's a fantastic mortgage advisor, and sounds like a really solid entrepreneur, and he just took a class in Arizona, and I said to him, did you learn this?

Technique for cornery? And he went, I did, and I said, wrong. - Yeah. - And he went, and I actually sent him a video series that we give all our customers,

because I can't consciously let that man get on a motorcycle, and know that he's not learning the right way. And there have tens of thousands of people doing that every week in America, and it breaks my heart. - Yeah.

- So is it, is it going to the turn slow, and then accelerate out of fast? - The biggest thing, actually, is staying on the brakes until you're happy with your speed and direction. - Yeah.

- And we do that in a car. - We actually do do it in a car. - Yeah, yeah. - We stay on the brakes, we start turning, we stay at a brakes, we stay at a brake.

“Oh, I see my exit, now we get off the brakes, right?”

But what they're teaching in America, and that would be for a long time, is do your braking in a straight line, lean, and the hope that you've got the right entry speed. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- And if you haven't lean more, and lean more means more risk. - Yeah. - And this is all techniques that I learnt from how my attempt is riding school.

And the year my attempt is riding school will start by a free time's world champion with Freddie Spencer. - Yeah. - The only guy that won the championship

won the 250 and a five or one year. And he wrote the call principles, the call habits that we use in these grittless. - Yeah, a lot of my, a lot of, I haven't taken it, 'cause I don't have my motorcycle license here in the state,

so I think it's like, I know. (laughing) I don't know how to live and think about it. But yeah, a lot of my skills came from like,

you know, and just being addicted to that. Now you're some mountain bike race and stuff, and that's cool. - And so like, just a control over a bike, right? But here I, I e-bike a lot, I'm addicted to the e-stuff,

real quickly 'cause we're running out of time, you know, like, what are you most excited about? You had just actually talked about,

hoppin' on an e-bike, and it was an amazing experience.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've had that, yeah, I just wrote an e-bike, Orange Cat Racing's White Fire, which is very, - E-Modercake on that e-bike, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're using that, they're racing out in the Hooligan class in my America, check it out,

that's actually a lot of fun.

“But yeah, I mean, the instant power was wild and I think,”

I think the biggest thing that I'm excited about right now is having the opportunity to get this message out. - Correct. - So I'm already across the United States of America. - Yeah.

- So they can literally go to the right people, you know, and then go to their traffic commissions, they can go to the department of licensing, right now. - And go to DM, you know, it's like, hey, why are we not getting that standard of training?

Why are we not getting the tools that can set us up for success, so we don't kill ourselves on the road? - Mm-hmm. - And I've got just the link was passion for the young drivers too, because, you know, I went to a seminar not that long ago,

and all day, or they kept saying was the kids, the kids, the kids, and at the end of the day, I stood up and said, can we stop calling them kids? - Yeah. - 'Cause kids are baby goats.

- Yeah, yeah, they should be driving cars.

- Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - We're asking these young adolescents to operate on my vehicle. - That's one of the most adult decision things you could ever do in your life.

- Yeah. - So change mindset. Anybody's got driving school, please change mindset. All right, they're not kids, they're young adults, right? They don't know yet what they don't know,

but bring them in and give them the right mindset, haven't set down and call them a young adult. - Mm-hmm. - Do it mean? - 'Cause we're asking them not kill people and themselves. - Big machine, a lot of power behind that we all, right?

- Yeah, a lot of unnecessary death, and a lot of expense to the country every year. - Yeah. - We got to stop that. - Mm-hmm, it's not worth it.

You are saving lives, man. (laughs) - My people are. (laughs) - Our people are, and our processes. And the biggest thing I just spoke to my mother

before I came in here today is sat down, and she just reminded me to, I asked her, can you set me up for success with her, give me a pet speed, you know? She said, "I can't do that."

I mean, no, it's 'cause not. And I said, "Why not?" She goes, "Cause you don't need one." - Yeah, yeah. - I said, "When you need that, no one."

'Cause you smell the roses a long time ago, Chris. - Okay. Well, early in set, I've snowed the roses and I'm gonna do something different. - All right.

- And so there you go. I mean, I'm spending the roses every day and I'm gonna bring the change 'til the United States of America. - So we're gonna start dying in more vehicles.

- Yeah, yeah. - It's unnecessary. - Yeah. - It really is. - Man, I can keep on talking about bikes all day.

- Yeah, right. - Yeah, we could. - How do people find you? - Yeah, great. So you want to get motorcycle trains

or get driver's education in Washington State. You just gotta go WMST.com. - All right. - See that again clearly. - G-O-W-M-ST.com.

- Correct. - So guys, shit in motorcycle safety training. Go W-MC.com. - G-O-T.

“- If you want to find me, I have a person”

and they call me the Moto Chat. - Okay. - One-zero-one. - Okay, choppy. - The Moto Chat.

- My boys came up with that name. So the Moto Chat, very British, C-H-A-P, you know. Chat, and then one-zero-one, 'cause it's kind of cool. - Yeah. - And yeah, I mean, you can find an Instagram, YouTube,

I've got my own website there. I can be hired one-on-one, you know. - Correct. - My soul, all that, all the good stuff. I've come speak. Whatever you want, I'm more than willing to do it.

I also do a lot of charity auctions and like MC for those as well. So, yeah. - Just let me know what you need. I'm just there to learn, I'm here to learn and share the gift that got gave me, got gave me a gift.

- And that's people. - Amazing. - I love people and I love them. - You gotta have those stars in your eyes, man. You know, like, come to America, you gotta take advantage.

Like, even Americans, right? Like, you gotta take advantage of the systems you have 'cause it's not like that in other countries and you take it for granted, right? Honestly, I mean, all the opportunity here,

you gotta work hard, you gotta never stop learning, right?

And you gotta just get on your shit, right? - You know, the one thing I do love about being Americans, I am American, you know, it's literally the way I think about it, is you know, you can motivate American crowd. You can literally assemble people and get a lot

done real quick. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, I mean, 'cause no one's six there and goes like, "Whoa, it's not really the breach way, you know, it's not really your opinion." - These people are like, "What, we're doing what? Yeah, yeah, let's go, let's get it done." - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah.

- So I love that, about America. And, you know, why is not a practice, you gotta be in it to win it? - Yeah. - I'll learn how to very young age. - All right. (laughs) - Really? - Amazing, man.

Well, thank you for having on the show. - Yeah. - And yeah, you're about to hop into your session. - This is good. - It's gonna be really cool. - Yeah, check out the episode. We'll be fine, I guarantee it 'cause it was not fun I'm not doing it.

“- Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's what we were talking about before.”

I have a mentor also, who's motto is, "If it ain't fun, it ain't done, right?" - So, yeah, we'll end it at that. But thank you guys for joining us again. And yeah, it's made in America.

We talked to Chaps, our bloke here. - Yeah, the 101, the 101, the 101. - The Colby Giza. (laughs) - And yeah, and we have a lot of fun.

but we're also talking about how that American dream is still alive.

“And, you know, please proof of it right here.”

So, thank you guys, and we'll see you next time.

Cheers, everybody. (upbeat music)