Why Your Skincare Routine May Be Doing More Harm

acne, how important it is that we are getting our teenagers and helping them out because

they're at such an integral time and life where their confidence is being held down and you know, depression and anxiety. I have a couple of big craters there. It's something that we all, um, I feel like it's is needed out there. Dr. Billy Cassay is a board certified experienced in patient-focused dermatologist and the founder of Reno Tahoe dermatology in Reno, Nevada. Practicing in the Reno area since 2009, she has built a reputation for excellence

in medical and cosmetic dermatology. All of these like two teenagers that are out there that have to go to Sephora and buying all of these crazy products that are coming in with massive acne

“and things like that happening. It's really important to know that you need to weed out”

what you're seeing and really kind of get to know, you know, what the product is and should you be doing this, shouldn't you be doing this? It spans the globe, like a super-highest coal into their health. Today, Apple is going to reinvent football. It's our Opal, our Tell Our Weir! The Living Your Legacy Podcast for those who live to live a legacy. Hey, welcome back everyone to another episode of Living Your Legacy Podcast. I'm your host again,

Jason Langen, and we're here at the new studios. It still feels very, very new here. It's been maybe a month, but yeah, back in the podcast room and we have the privilege of interviewing and talking with all the best leaders and entrepreneurs in the country and entrepreneurs are really the ones that have some of the greatest stories. And we're here with another one that was on the Marpener show and yeah, introduce yourself, what's your name, where you from, and what's your

business? Yeah, my name is Dr. Billy Kasey. I'm a board certified dermatologist. Okay, and I own an operate Reno Tahoe dermatology. All right, so dermatology, talk to us a little bit about that, like give us a sense of, you know, a lot of the things that you do. Let's keep you busy. I will everything, but dermatology is skin. Yes. And there are so many skin diseases that people just don't realize or know about, but there's a whole differential and dermatology. You know, it's

going to be medical, it can be cosmetic, it's surgical, so it's kind of a little of everything that I'm going to do every day. And it's also kind of in the talk right now, in the discussion of social media of skincare, right? Yeah. And not just men, but I mean, not just women, but also men, right? So I had to have something to ask you, right? So yesterday, we had kind of like the sales teams from all around the country for Insight Success, come on down for a little mastermind event, right?

And we were getting ready to go on the boat, right? And I'm here, and I'm putting on sunscreen

“because so, you know, it's like kind of like the first thing that you need to do, but another woman was like,”

I don't put on sunscreen because I don't know what chemicals are in there. And I was like, yeah, but I think it's more important to put the sunscreen than not put it on. So can you talk to us about that? Agreed. You know, there's a lot of misinformation out there here when it comes down to sunscreen. And of course, I think we all need to be cognizant of chemicals, whether we're eating it or applying it or something about nature. But we do know what happens when you don't have sunscreen,

whether it's aging, but the most important thing is what we know is skin cancer and the rates of

melanoma, you know? So it's really important that people kind of get beyond that. And honestly, become more educated. If you know, I mean, technically, the chemicals or whatever's on there is, you know, it's going to stay within the sunscreen. But if you know to look for your mineral sunscreen, it's like your zinc and titanium, those are much better for you. They do not have the chemicals and them. They're basically just a barrier. And nowadays, they become nanoparticles where

you don't even see them anymore. So it used to be you were a ghost, you know? So you went out there. So people didn't want to wear it because it was like a ghost. But nowadays, the sunscreen's really

“have, you know, hit a high note. Cosmetically. So I think that is really important that we are”

all wearing sunscreen, whether it's for skin cancer, which I think is the most important issue.

But a lot of patients just want to do it because Cosmetically, they don't want to look like they're 80 when they're 50. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, that's why my wife is like sunscreen sunscreen. So

7 or 8 AM runs. Sun's not that bad. My wife's telling me I got to put it on. But I'm like, oh, really? Do I have to be at this time? It's not really that harsh. Tell me. I know. You know what, anytime you're going to be outside and the sun is out technically. Yeah. Doesn't matter if it's

early morning, late night or if it's cloudy. Okay. There's always going to be UV rays that are landing

on you. And even in cloud cover, you get 80% rays that are landing on you. Oh. And the rays are UVA and UVB. And UVA are the ones that are going to, you know, create melanoma and aging. UVB is more in that zone of, like, basil so-cross than I'm a but regardless, you know, you were out there, you were going to get hit by those rays. And again, it doesn't matter if it's earlier later,

“it's cloud covered. So technically, you should always hear sunscreen on before you leave the house.”

Yeah. And I think I was in the middle of a scroll and someone said, you got to get the ears, right? You, oh, my gosh. Please do, I tell them every day in my office when I'm doing skin exams. Don't forget the back of your neck and your back of the ears and the back of the neck, right? It's so many times I'm doing biopsies and having to take care of skin cancers when it comes to taking ears and the back of the neck for men. Yeah. So don't forget that.

All right. So yes, she's, you have to stay educated, but she's dropping some knowledge of bombs on us right now. Talk to me about SPF then. Some more little knowledge tidbits. I use SPF 50, which is kind of like the general sense of what's out there, most available. What's the difference between 30 and a 50? You know, honestly, it's only a couple of points difference as far as like what the protection is going to be. When I would say the key about sunscreen

in any SPF that you're going to put on is how you are applying it. So most of us don't apply

“enough to actually get the actual SPF of what you should have. Okay. So it's a, if you took a shot”

glass and you filled with a sun screen and that is what you should be putting on. Okay. For your whole body for your uncovered areas. Oh, okay. Okay. Yes. Most of us are not doing that. You know, say, that's where you're going to get your 50 SFF, your 30 SFF. So really, it's all about

what you are applying, how much you are applying. So I always say instead of a 30, always go with a 50.

And then beyond a 50, again, you're getting a little bit more, but it really is about how you're applying it. And it's also about reapplying because you can put it on in the morning and then they're out all day and you're at the beach and having a great time. You don't reapply. I mean, it really is good at lasting a couple of hours. And then you really do need to reapply it. Yeah. And I guess it's just no what works for you, right? No, so let's go back into your business.

Okay. So you said about how long have you had your clinic for? So I have been practicing for 17 years, but I opened up my own office Reno Tahoe dermatology four and a half years ago. Okay. Yeah. And so is it more for cosmetic purposes or is it just to treat all the general kind of skincare, I guess diseases or whatever out there? Yeah. So I'm

“lucky enough that I get to do it all. Okay. Great. And I think I'm very good and I built a”

really successful practice, honestly, doing all of it. Yeah. So you can see me from acne to skin cancer to cosmetic to resurfacing your skin or doing collagen banking or whatever we want to do collagen banking. That's a it's a trendy term right now, right? So yeah, I take my collagen shot every morning. Do you? Yes. What's it called? What's it called? I forget I forget the name of the company. But yeah. Is it peptide? Is that we said shot or is it like a shot you're drinking? It's it's a shot.

I'm drinking, right? It's a collagen shot, right? It's it's something that's really in trend, right? Okay. Well, you know, just so you know, and you may know this already, but boiled child. Oh, I haven't heard this on okay. Okay. So collagen is actually better absorbed when it's liquid. Okay. So good job. Yeah. The powders are actually less viable available. Okay. And I do not know the collagen that you're taking, but you do, if you look, if you're thinking

about like hair skin and nails, you want it to be marine based, not bovine. Okay. So go with marine based with liquid. Yes. Perfect. I love it. Perfect. All right. But why are we banking on the collagen? Like, that collagen is what I guess builds your skin elasticity is on my gosh. Yeah. Hey, look at me man. I'm getting them brawness points here. Come on guys, tune up on your skin, care, guys. All right. Honestly, I just try to listen to my wife. Okay. Listen, you're a good man.

Yeah. Yeah. Right. Let them take care of it. Let them take care of it, right? That's right. She sounds

like she's amazing. I love it. No, you know, collagen is important. It is a is a building block for

most of everything that we are, you know, honestly. Yeah. And a lot of us, you know, like you said, are taking it as supplements nowadays. And it's like, well, why are we taking it? Because for a lot

the bovine collagen will help to bones and so on, so forth. So there's a lot to it when it comes to it. But again, when you any product that you do, whether it's an SPF you're putting on or a collagen that you're in taking, you want to know what you're in taking and you want to know,

“basically what it is. Yeah. So with the skin, it's like your first line of defense, right?”

It's also the biggest, the body's biggest organ, right? It's doing all kinds of stuff. And you

got to take care of it, because you can, you know, when you first meet someone, you can kind of tell

how, you know, healthy they are or young they are by the kind of quality of the skin also, right? Absolutely. So you got to get rid of those sunspots. You got to get rid of all the, like, anything really, right? All the fine lines, right? Yes. Exactly. It really likes the wrinkle. So tell us about kind of some of the other major diseases that we can do preventative care, right? It's all about preventative care, right? What, what things should we do for ourselves other than

the collagen, right? The sunscreen, what else is on the list? You know, and it really kind of depends on what age you are to be honest, because depending on what the age, the age or the first that's coming in that we're talking about skin consult or skin care consult or so on, so forth, it really varies on

“that. I think where nowadays where things have gone really as skew is on our small population,”

you know, like our 10 to 15 year olds to be honest. Yeah. Now there's this whole tech talk trend that they should be going to support and buying everything, you know, that they can see on the shelves, and it's really expensive, and they don't need that. Yeah. You know, so at that age, they really need a good wash, a sunscreen, and if they're having acne problems, you know, we can discuss that, but they don't need anti-aging at that age. They don't need vitamin C on their skin, you know?

Yeah. So it's just amazing to me, you know what I'm seeing, and so it really depends on the age,

and then we start getting into our 20s, and then I'll start saying, okay, not only do we need, let's say a good wash and a good sunscreen, but you also need to start your antioxidants, you know, so you want your vitamin C's, your vitamin E's, that type of thing. You know, and as we trend around the age of 30 is when we start seeing what we call "actinic damage," an "actinic damage" damage is basically-- Actinic. Actinic. Yes. I apologize. No, no, no, I just, no, you said it properly.

I'm just making sure that I get the words, so I can be on the lookout for that. Perfect. It just means sun damage, but it's what we're actually seeing visually, but also microscopicly. All right. So it's when we really start to see the damage, the breakdown in collagen,

the breakdown in a last end, but at this point in time around our 30s, we're not

generating what we used to. So it's about 1% less than we should be producing because of that sun damage. So again, it's in those 20s that I really want the antioxidants to be on this skin. No, it doesn't depend on your skin color because, you know, from white skin to black skin and everything in between is different melatonin, right? So melanin, or sorry. And so does that make a difference? You know, I would say that are, you know, because a lot of black women would be like,

"Oh, I don't got to put on sunscreen," you know, because blacks don't crack, right? It's right. And you know, to be honest, they hold up better than any of us, you know, because they really do have more protection just by who they are. You know, versus me, I'm the white girl, you know, and like, I get knocked down, but they still do need sunscreen. And we still see melanoma, which is the scarry skin cancer in people.

“So that's what I'll talk about. You're on your sunscreen. Yeah, I mean, you know, so it's really”

important that we're thinking about those things. And I get it, you know, they don't need it quite as much as, let's say, me, but no, absolutely, you know, we say it across the board, you know, you need it, whether you're type one to type five, type six. Perfect. So 10 or 15 need less products, still need the sunscreen, right? White or black, you know, black, maybe they've handled it better, but you still need the sunscreen. The important message of the day is where you sunscreen,

everyone across the board, okay? All right. So yeah, what are the biggest kind of diseases? Or we were talking about preventative care. Let's continue to talk about that, right? So we got the sunscreen, we got the collagen, and then you were saying, what was the other thing that we were just talking about? The antioxidant. Any oxidants, right? And how do we, how do we take that, any oxidant? So we can take it supplementary. Honestly, there is a product called heliocare that is

out. And heliocare is actually firm block technology, okay? Which firm block comes from plants. It's what keeps our plants from burning. I think of it that way. So it's their antioxidant. So technically it's something we can take that can be helpful for us. Most of the time what we're doing when it comes to antioxidants is topical. You know, we're putting it on our skin to be absorbed to help us

Okay. But you want to make sure it's a good one. You know, and the good ones meeting that

not everything over the counter is quality. I know that's a shocker. But it's not. Yeah. And a lot of times products can be less expensive because they don't have the purest of product in it. And there's just a lot of additives in there. You know, so they don't have what you want as far as, let's say, your vitamin C or vitamin E, or they don't have for look acid so that your vitamin C is going to be absorbed. Yeah, yeah. No, we got that. We got the

the shelf of serums. Right. You got the serum shelf, right? It doesn't. Yes. And so do you, are you clinic? Do you kind of sell serums and all kinds of stuff? I do. I have certain brands that I sell. I have my own white labeled brand. All right. Yeah, I was just going to ask you. You dabble, have you dabble into making your own? You know, I haven't made it necessarily, but a company the topics makes it. And then I white labeled it. All right. But it's a fantastic

company. They've got great science behind them. They do a lot of products from many different

giant companies out there. Doctor approved, absolutely. But, you know, not I always felt like not

one company does everything the most amazing, right? If that was the case, all you need is one thing out there. You know, but there's companies that have their known for, let's say, the number one in your antioxidant like skin circles or, you know, last in with their technology that they have for their collagen and the last in, you know. So there's different things like that. So I dabble in multiple different companies. You know, the things that I feel they are best in, I will pull

into my office. Yeah. So last week, we had a girl that just for a year and a half has been doing

“TikTok live, right? And well, also another another kind of live streaming shopping kind of app, right?”

But she skyrocketed to millions of dollars in a year and a half, right? Have you thought about

kind of, you know, because you're the expert, right, doing kind of like live selling of these different topicals and and serums and all that stuff? Um, no. Yeah. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work, right? Um, where I'm at is the point of education. Yeah. So I will talk about, you know, things. Do you do social media educating? I do. I do social media educating. Sure. I speak at different conferences. I'm a key opinion leader for multiple medical and cosmetic companies. Okay. Um,

I, yeah. So that is my way of kind of educating and getting out there. You know, what I feel, how I feel. Does it mean that at some point I won't be out there talking about my brand? Of course I will be. Yeah. Um, but I, I just love it all and I love educating. Yeah. But you won't see me necessarily honing down for any one product. And what works for you best in terms of marketing? Are you getting a lot of word of mouth or to these conferences? Let

you're speaking at help kind of drive business. Um, towards your brand, right? Maybe towards your personal brand that you're building or towards your actual brick and motor clinic. Um, or is it the social media or just a kind of combo? You're just trying to put yourself out there and grow it all. You know, it is a combination of everything to be really honest. Um, I'm, you know, 48.

“So I did not grow up in the learning from a tablet social media error. So I think social media”

has been not saying new now because it's been out for a while. But, you know, kind of trending in that realm. Of course. Really for me in the 17 years, I built, you know, what I have on who I am and who I've become as a dermatologist. Yeah. You know, um, and I'm really lucky. You know, to be honest, I love what I do. I think people know that. They see that. They hear it. You know, I, like I said, I've been able to be a cave in and later for multiple companies that has been really helpful.

Um, my knowledge face, you know, bring innovation and technology into Nevada where, um, it was lacking in certain areas. Yeah. Have been exceptionally helpful. It was so important. And then Nevada also because that sun is so harsh. You know, we're high desert. Oh, my God. You know, I'm not only as at the sun, but you just dry up like a lizard. You know, so coming here, I'm not used to the humidity and I love it, um, but also it's such a different. I'm going to go back to Reno and

your hair and check, right? It's in a poof out. You know what, thank gosh to the hair people. Yes, yes. Um, so yeah, that's a lot of things people kind of when they come here, especially like

“man, if you got along here and they kind of don't care about the hair and makeup or products, right?”

They shampoo their hair the day of and then they match that with the humidity and their hair is like, why is it not being tame? It's like, oh, man, you know, but, uh, yeah, we need more kind of, you know,

the, the skincare is, it's trending. It's a topic that's trending because of, yeah, the cosmetic

aspect and the aging aspect, right? So who are you going to trust? You're going to trust just the influencer that is, you know, like, all giddy and young and they're really, maybe really beautiful, right? Just talk about product, right? Or, you know, the dermatologist that's speaking about it, that's on the stage talking about it, you know? So it's great that you're putting yourself out there educating people, just like myself, right? And all the men out there that are just listening to

their wise, but yeah, you got to get an understanding of what's going on behind it too, right? You know, absolutely. And I think that what we have to remember about the influencers is I think you're right, right? They find some of you that's beautiful and they tell them to do this product, and this influencer is doing, you know, what she's being told, honestly, or what he's being told,

and it may not be the best product for everybody, you know? So I think it's important to know that,

again, all of these, like, tweenages that are out there that have to go to Sephora and buying all of these crazy products that are coming in with massive acne and things like that happening,

“it's really important to know that you need to weed out what you're seeing and really kind of get”

to know, you know, what the product is and should you be doing this, shouldn't you be doing this, you know, so... So what are the kinds of things for us? What are some of the things that we should be in the lookout for of like, oh, yeah, like a sunscreen, right? What are some of the things that it's like a big no-no? Like when I look at the back and I'm looking at ingredients, you know, honestly it varies to be really honest. So I think it's a, um, personally a big no-no

when you get some of the able bin zones and oxy bin zones and I say that because that is the most common reason that somebody will be allergic to sunscreen. Yes, that was allergic to sunscreen. Okay, so that was another thing. My wife got some kind of sunscreen that was like, you know, more expensive, it's just seen more natural, and then I put it on my arms and then I had like rashes, you know, and I was like, I don't want to use that anymore, you know? Like for me,

I sweat a lot also, so I had to kind of use that, that like waterproof spray on kind, so or kids

“kinds because it's like, stops from getting in your eye. Yeah, no, I think that's really important,”

especially as a man, that's the biggest complaint that I have. Yeah. You know, I would say the other complaint is putting on a sunscreen and you have, you know, a five o'clock shadow that comes out and now it's all white, you know, you're beautiful with your gray hair, you know, but not everybody, you know, has that necessarily, you know, gray appearance, you know, on their beard or their mustache line, they don't want it. Yeah. You know, so I think it's really important. So there's actually

a way, and I can teach you if you want, for men, especially to put on sunscreen so that doesn't happen. Okay. And so, would you like me? Yeah, keep on dropping those knowledge, mom's dark. So we're talking about mineralized sunscreen, right? So that was the one that I said you should look for in the beginning. That's the one that can make you kind of white it. That's what the zinc or whatever. So it wasn't the zinc that made me that made me allergic, because I thought I was

like this one was like zinc, right? It was, what was it that kind of, I was allergic to? Probably if there was an avobin zone or an oxyvin zone or honestly, there could have just been something that was in it to make it stable. You know, some sort of stay. I'm not really allergic to much stuff. Like honestly, like anything, I could eat it all, I can usually wear it all, but this, I was like, oh my god. Yeah. So, okay. It happens. You know, and sometimes, like I said, it's just

a stabilizing ingredient that's in there that, you know, gotcha. Yeah. So I'm applying this to my face and what am I doing? All right. So you're going to put it in your hands. Yeah. Okay. I am going to have you rub it in and then you're going to put it on your face. Yeah. Okay. And then you're going to dot it. So you're going to take your fingers and you're going to dot it. Yeah. All right, rub it in. You're going to do this and now I'm down. Now you're dotting it. All right,

it seems silly. I tell you. Yeah. And then you're going to want to call Vogue it. Okay. So this is basically kind of melting it in. And so this is doing like the Madonna Vogue. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to leave your hands on your face for a period of time. But what that does is it helps to melt it in so that it doesn't as your set as the day is going on and your beard is growing out. You don't get those white tips and so on. Yeah. Because they say like apply 15, 20 minutes before you go out or whatever.

“Well, you know, that's what the sun screens. If you're actually using a block, which is the”

ink or titanium, it blocks immediately. Aha. All right. Some of the other key. So kind of like those deodorant sticks for the face, almost. Those are disgusting. But I only say that because I saw someone on the on the on the on the trip over the weekend, you know, one of the sales agents applying it.

You know, I was like, okay, I've never really seen her. You know, I the ones that in I say this,

this is disgusting. The ones that they gave of my kids used to have, right? And they were like gunky, you know, to like, oh, grows like the feel of that, you know, that's just grossing. That's so funny. At least he's wearing sunscreen. And listen, whatever form if you're wearing it, have at it.

excited about? It could be personal. It could be business. What's what's kind of actually going.

“So I'm honestly, I'm excited about a couple different things that are happening. Most excited”

right now that I get to be here with you. All right. You know, you. Yeah. I mean, inside success TV, what a cool collaboration with mom, Paniers, I love that. Yeah. I love being on that show. We didn't get into your mom for nourishing. Yeah. If you're not the tune into the episode, it's really good into it. Guys, we're just scratching the their skin level surface here. Yeah, but you know, it's about being a mom and being entrepreneur, building a brand and professional

but intertwining them both so they don't intercede. You know, so I think that is exciting. I'm about to write a book that I'm super excited about. All about acne, the psychology of acne. How important it is that we are getting our teenagers and helping them out because they're at such an integral time and life. Yeah. For their confidence is being held down and, you know, depression anxiety. Yeah. I had a couple of big craters. Yeah. It's something that we all,

I feel like it's is needed out there. You know, some by my mom, you said, say, it shows my mom's in the Philippines and she says, oh, your face looks like a jackfruit. And then I went to the Philippines and I was like, what the hell's a jackfruit? And then I saw a jackfruit. I was like, oh my god, mom, the hell, you know, has been on a jackfruit here in Connecticut right where I grew up. I had like no clue. I was like, okay, mom, whatever that is. I'm glad you didn't know,

I might have made you feel like poop like that. You're like, oh my goodness. So yeah, anyways,

“I got this gift like some amazing now, honestly. But yeah, growing up teens, it's difficult, right?”

Yeah, I had acne as a teenager. You know, it was one of my passions. It's one of the reasons that I got into dermatology. You know, is that it's so much more, and they give you the stuff that really dries up your skin when we do. Oh, yeah, yeah, there's some, there's some stuff. It's just like, there is. And there's some really fantastic technology out there nowadays. So there's some great lasers, you know, things like that. Oh, yeah. I'll say that a long term as far as training. So they're

doing lasers on like extreme acne now or, you know, honestly, any any form of acne. Okay. Yeah. So there have been a couple of lasers out there. It's a wavelength. This is 1726 nanometer wavelength. Yeah. There's two companies out there. One of them is cutera. I am a key opinion leader for

cutera. It's called Abby Clear. It's a long term treatment of acne. And basically what we're doing

is we are, I'm so excited to be like lasers. It's lens. Yeah. I love laser face. But yeah, it was the activating the suspicious lens. Yeah. Okay. So your suspicious lens is your CEO of your skin. Yeah. Oh, if you knew that. Wow. Oh, yes. They're like big bosses. They are. So when big bosses aren't working, doesn't matter what the cause of acne is. It doesn't matter if it's bacteria or it's yeast or it's hormonal or genetic. Okay. You know, or all the inflammation,

he's not there to promote acne. Gotcha. So when we're deactivating that, we're not getting the acne. So. Okay. Wow. Yeah. I had a laser, I had a skin spot from being in Vegas for two years, right? Yeah. And so sometimes I'd ride my bike. And yeah, I had a skin spot develop on my face as when you're older than happens, right? But then had the laser kind of just like laser that thing away. So thank gosh, right? I know. There's so many things I would have been. I had no clue

about it. But then my wife is like, oh, well, just laser that thing. And I was like, I was like, what is this? You know, I was like trying to peel it off. You know, I was like, I didn't even know what this is. Yeah. I didn't even know what a skin spot was, right? I was just like, it was like a

“zip that just wouldn't go away. You know, so I love it. I was like, you're so lucky. Honestly, in this”

day and age, the technology, especially in dermatology, the innovation technology has come through to treat anything from psoriasis. You know, I mean, to clarity of what psoriasis used to be back in the day when we did not have any of these biologics out there. We had people in the hospital for two weeks doing like UV therapy and tar baths and things like that. Oh, just insane. To now, they can do a shot every, you know, three months if they want. Yeah. And have a hundred percent

clarity. Okay, real quick, I got to ask you, what's your skin care routine in the morning? My skin care routine. Yes. Okay, normal, just average morning. Just on your normal average morning. You want me to tell you like ABCD and you go through the whole thing? Give it up. All right. So I, don't we tell you products, too? No, you can just say. Just say, okay. I washed my face, you know, so, and I've already done my double wash the night before, so I'm just doing a wash of my face.

Okay. I use a toner, so I spritz it, so I spritz my toner and toner really should be to

basically balance the pH of your skin so that your products, thereafter, will go on at the right

pH. That's what a toner should do. Yeah. So a toner, and then I'm going to put on my vitamin E.

put an active on, you want to wait a couple minutes before something else goes on. You got to marinate it. It's got to marinate it. I love it. Yeah. So you want to marinate it, and then I'm

going to put on ptox, which is basically kind of in a neuro, topical peptide, kind of your topical

Botox. Another, another keyword that's trending, peptide, okay, a topical peptide, right? Yep.

“You said topical Botox? Yeah, that's what we like. And this is over the counter or something?”

This is skin circles makes it. So generally it's at like a medical office. Okay. Yeah, okay.

Okay, so I do that. And then I, if I feel like I need it, then I'm going to put on, I shouldn't say

if I feel like I need it. Then I put on my collagenolastin product. Got you. Okay. I get that on there. Yeah. And then I put my eye serum on. Okay. Then my sunscreen. Oh. And then my makeup if I'm going to use my makeup. All right. Yeah. And then yeah, and then the makeup. Yeah. Wow.

So there you have it. People. We are dropping major knowledge bombs today. But thank you.

“How do people find you? Dr. Billy Kasey is on Instagram. How do you spell Kasey?”

C-A-S-S-E. Okay. Ask them. Kasey. It's like, yeah, yeah. Friendship or something. Okay. Okay. There you go. Um, or Rino Tahoe dermatology. All right. Billy with an I-E. With an I-E. Okay. Billy Kasey. And then say the last one again. Rino Tahoe dermatology. All right. Awesome. And you're on social media

“and all that. I am. All right. Well, it's been a pleasure to have you in the studios here.”

Thank you for waiting a little bit. We were a little bit busy today. No problem. But yeah, it was worth the wait. I love this episode. Yeah. Thank you. I really appreciate it. I love educating as you can tell. All right. And so yeah, you got to get more educated. If you listen here to the end, uh, and stay tuned for her episode, which is Mompreneurs. And I'm sure that you go into all of that stuff. And I'm going to tune into it because it's something my wife's

going to be like, uh, which you learn that? Which you get those knowledge bombs? You know, I'm going to outskinned care my wife today. So, uh, thank you for that. And yeah, and please join us again. And we'll see you next time on Living Your Legacy Podcast. Cheers, everyone. [Music]