Give 'Em Helipad

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Manifesto's are a call to action, an artful scream. They capture our anger and they try to do something with it. Their history's hail Mary, and when they work, they're explosive. On the 250th anniversary of the manifesto that launched America itself, this is my manifesto. On manifestos.

Listen to Danteperski's manifesto wherever you get your podcasts. [Music] [Music] What's up Los Angeles? [Applause] Welcome to Love It, Leave It Live from Hollywood.

I'm John Love It, and like a data center, no matter how much one or

I check, I'm always kind of thirsty.

You've got a great show for you tonight, but first let's get into it. What a week. [Applause] I've been speculation about the nature of Donald Trump's relationship with his young, weirdly devoted aid, Natalie Harp, Melania Trump, made her first public appearance in a month on Thursday.

Good afternoon. I heard you missed me. Here I am. [Laughter] Added Melania, I'll say to you the same thing Robert Wagner said to those investigators when he got off that boat.

I have no idea where Natalie is, but I hope she's okay. [Laughter]

“How many of you here know about Robert Wagner and Natalie Wood?”

[Laughter] Alright, not enough. [Laughter] As Republicans continue to fain outrage over Senator John Osloff's comments. Trump continues to prove his point about not wanting to do his job.

On Wednesday, Trump turned what was supposed to be a policy meeting

into basically an architectural digest home tour.

We've got through to the asphalt here and it's granted. And I mean, notice it's radio, radio meeting, it's cut. About two degrees, every stone is two degrees, grounded so that it's putting straight pieces down. We have to scroll exactly around it.

It's enough to make you forget that we lost a war in Iran. [Laughter] And I'm sorry, but, but caring this much about Granite is not the job of the president.

“It is the job of a wealthy woman who used to be a lawyer,”

but left her career to raise her children and now they're an elementary school. And she's redoing the kitchen with a shocking degree of intensity and focus, as if putting the same energy into countertops that she wants to put into court filings will stop her brain from vibrating inside of its skull. Here's Trump piping up the new White House helipad after signing it with a Sharpie.

This would be here long after we're gone, no matter what happens with the world, this is not moving, this will take any kind of shot. The pyramids of Giza, the hanging gardens of Babylon, the helipad of the south lawn. I wonder what this was, said a boy and tattered close to his father on the long walk from their clans outpost in the Virginia neutral zone

through the eastern contaminated region to the walled city of New Baltimore. Oh, well, when I was your age, there were these giant mechanical birds that could fly all across the country. Somewhere as big as that fallen monument down there, but others were smaller and could land on a spot just like this.

And then on what was known as a talk show, like the plays the troop puts on in our village at night, a village elder named Kamala Harris was asked how she would be different than the presiding elder Joe Biden. And she fucked it up. Trump also touted the helipads' multifunctionality.

They'll be using that almost like a table, they can have events on it, they can have people go there for cocktails and then walk to the ballroom after that's finished.

We can have really incredible, this is unbelievable for state.

Using the helipad, almost like a table, but a table for feet, a shame. But it's not dementia. We simply as a culture do not have a word for a big flat area that's a table for your feet. Not dementia, it's not that you can't find the word, there is no word. Even now, as we're sitting here, none of us can think of the word for a flat area on the ground. That's like a table, but for your feet.

And then there's of course the beautiful grass. To know grass has a life like humans have a life. This has all been redone, it's all been topsoiled. In other words, we put topsoiled brand new earth on top. It's very, you know, very, a lot of good ingredients in that earth for grass. If you're grass, you're very happy. If you're grass, you're very happy. If you're a voter, not so much.

I bet he'd go to the grass as weddings, said Don Jr. To a therapist who has him on mute.

This is a great pole. This is the top of the line. It's tapered.

“This is a straight up and down job, which looks terrible, frankly.”

That's a tapered pole. Great. I'm very good at flagpoles. To shame Lindsay Graham is in a life to see this. Though if you were, that flagpole would have been the thing that killed him. Speaking of which, in South Carolina, Darlene Graham, who was appointed to fill her late brother's sentencing, is now running to replace him on the ballot this fall.

Of course, no one could ever truly replace Lindsay Graham, said a gay prostitute struggling to make rents in July. During a debate on Tuesday, Graham was asked a question about foreign policy. And here's how that went. Our Taiwan and the South China Sea National Security issues for the United States

and if so, why or how?

“I'm just going to be honest to you. I'm not a national security that. I'm not that in”

horned on national security, so, but I do support the military. I'm not a polish politician up here. I'm national security is not my thing. Not my area of expertise, but I do support the military. brutal. I've had that dream before, but usually I'm naked and then on my teeth fall out. And then I'm running around the Senate trying to bring a speech to Hillary Clinton.

But my sex-ed teacher, Mr. Papas, is standing in the door holding a banana. I don't know what it means. The debate between Graham and Republican congressman Ralph Norman grew pretty contentious, but it's a slumber party compared to what's been going down in Florida. A congressman Randy Fein, who is Jewish and a virulent Islamophob defeated social media

personality Dan Bilzerian, a Holocaust anire, who is said that Jews are the source of the world's Isles. These guys don't belong in a primary. They belong in a sitcom.

“Hey, dad, if Jews control the weather, then why is it freezing in this apartment?”

Am I Jesus right now? Because this Jew is killing me. Randy Fein once proposed "New King Palestine" and celebrated the deaths of children in Gaza, which obviously won't work for the sitcom. sitcom cancelled.

Bilzerian, who has almost 30 million followers on Instagram, posted an AI video

that asked, "What Hitler's advice might be in the race?" said Hitler, "Have you considered losing and then killing yourself?" Meanwhile, Alaska chose their Senate nominees on Tuesday. Per this state's nonpartisan primary, the top four vote getters of any party move on to the general election. Democratic former congresswoman Mary Peltola led the field, followed by Republican Dan Sullivan, as well as Republican Dan Sullivan. Dan, if you do,

Dan, if you don't. On the November ballot will include both incumbent Republican Senator Dan S. Sullivan and Alaska and longer Dan J. Sullivan Jr. It must be frustrating for Dan S. Sullivan. I know I'm pretty frustrated to be confused with the less famous John Lovitz. Peltola has a real shot at becoming the state's first Democratic senator to be elected since 2008. Her campaign slogan is "Fish, Family, and Freedom," which is pretty good compared to Dan

Sullivan's slogan, "No, not that one. This one. Me!" Speaking of loggers where they probably shouldn't be, the Trump administration on Tuesday

moved to open nearly 45 million acres of untouched wilderness too logging by seeking to repeal

an environmental rule that's been in place since the turn of the century. I don't understand said Trump, when the concept of wilderness was explained to him, there are no buildings, but you can't play golf. The roadless rule was finalized by Bill Clinton, surprising the incoming administration just days before Clinton left office in 2001. I hope nothing else catches us by surprise this year, said George W. Bush.

Republicans and their industry allies have been fighting to delay weekend and eliminate the rule ever since through deregulation during the Bush and Trump years and in the courts. Said Smokey the Bear, "We must protect these farce. Hey, where are you taking me?" Passport, "I'm a citizen. I want to call my lawyer. Why do your gloves hurt so much?"

And finally, an Amazon Prime drone delivered a package into a Texas woman swimming pool.

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Con, go to CrookedCon.com. Please welcome to the show. From Furious On Hulu, a show I absolutely love and am amazed by, it's Emmy-Rawesome. Hi, welcome. Thanks for being here. Thank you. It's so nice to meet you. It's so nice to have you on the show. I was so excited that you're going to be here

because I, Furious is incredible. Like it is so good. I really want to convey how much I genuinely

think it is an amazing thing that you're a part of. And you're amazing in it. Thank you. There's a way that you smile as an FBI agent that I was like clocking as you're going through. This kind of like vaguely dead-eyed thing that you're doing. Do you know that you're doing that or you just been the character? That's so specific. That's interesting. I did notice, I got the chance to I've been working on this for like three and a half years. So the fact that it's finally out there

and that people like it is really exciting. And Liz Mary Weather, who I know you know, is an incredible writer, incredible writer of people and women specifically. And she and I got to spend a lot of time with FBI agents. And my character is a former NYPD detective who became an FBI agent. So I had to get to know both kinds of law enforcement. And New York City detectives have a very kind of like front-footed relaxed body. They're really like pounding the pavement every day. They're case case

case case case. They're a lot of incoming cases. And they're under the weight of you, you can just feel that they're very in their bodies and also very, they're really metabolizing a lot of

shit all the time. Bad cases, things not being solved. Whereas FBI agents, I have never seen

such good posture in my entire life. The straightest, widest teeth. The most perfect like if that you were to write their sentences, they have perfect punctuation. I was at one point

in it so that I could get onto the base to meet these guys and with Quincy Tyler Bernstein. And shoot these big guns. They offered us grenades, but I said no on that one. No, no grenades today. Thank you so much. But they were really incredible and really let us in. And what I understood from working with them is that they have a way of kind of disconnecting from the weight of the work that they do. And I could tell that there was something in their eyes that was,

I think they're always clocking everything that's happening in the room while they're talking

to you. And so even though their faces are moving and kind of simulating normal looking behaviors, there's something uncanny about it because there's so much going on in their head at the same time. I remember when I was going to work in politics in the White House, a speechwriter

“and you have to fill out something called an SF86, which is so unlaying back so far here.”

This is so I just laid back and I like it, but I'm laying very far back. Yes, okay. So sorry. But the SF86 is this long form where you go through basically where everywhere you've lived, people that you live with and you have to say and he crimes you've committed and any drugs that you've done and you have to be honest because it's not about, I mean it's partially about what drugs you've done but it is mostly about wanting to know there's anything you could be blackmailed

over. Of course. That's the purpose of the form. Do you have any secrets? There's anything of foreign intelligence agencies you could use to get you to give them inside information. But so it ends up with you sitting across from someone from the FBI telling them how many times you've smoked weed and how recently. And I do remember this sort of like very intense, very pleasant, very kind of kind and empathetic person who was listening but you understood

like there was like this toughness to the thing. You were like oh but but this isn't this is

there she's not missing a thing and she's fully engaged. I always think about that.

Yeah, I spent my life right to her face. No kidding. You were like never, I've never done, never have I ever. No, I confess to the weed, I confess to the weed. That's all, I said I still sounds like I'm lying. We've got to move on. Let's move on. No but the other part of the show that's amazing to me is. So if you take out the fact that it's about this female detective and this

“female serial killer kind of going back and forth, a lot of the tropes in it are traditional, right?”

It's this, it's a grizzled cop, kind of facing her own demons and disliked in her unit, trying to find this, this killer but both because I think it is about a woman in that role and it's just so excellent. You do feel like you're watching something totally new and I'm wondering what it was like with Liz trying to figure that out as you're making it? Well Liz is the kind of writer who doesn't protect the character from making the absolute worst decisions and so I never felt

that I had to protect the character at all. I felt like my job was to understand and to explain often nonverbaly what the motivations were so that people would be on board with that and yeah I think you know it's loosely inspired by a film called Black Widow with Theresa Russell

and Deborah Winger and in that you never know the motivations of the serial killer. The first

“half is like a fun cat and mouse and then the second half is the two women find their way to each”

other and they sit on a beach getting to know each other. There's a weird scuba, sequence, someone is nodding, they've seen it, you're wondering are they going to kill each other? Are they going to make out? What's going to happen? It's very strange. It doesn't become at all like a cat and mouse and then kind of ends in an interesting way but Liz went back and when Liz and I started working on this she said well I wonder what a female serial killer, why why they're really

killing and there have been so few in reality that we know of who have been caught. Maybe they're just better at it than that. Well it's possible, it's possible. I haven't thought about that. I don't know. But I do think well I'll do it. But I do think that we did learn that they're all victims of violence so that's where she started and you know obviously creating this big dynamic character of Catherine and giving both women this kind of history that is so similar was a really inspired place

to start. And when you're getting ready for this you there have been moments where like you've had to kind of run towards some discomfort too like both in the preparing for the role and in doing the role and just curious about those moments and then also if it's changed at all now that you're also a mom yourself. Oh that's so interesting. Well it's really hard not to bring the intensity of your job home with you and often if you're dealing with really dark subject matter I literally have to take

was intense. I did fly to West Texas and was put through like a mini boot camp quantico the first day

was just kind of weapons and targets target training and I I was feeling pretty good about myself. I was called a dead eye which is somebody who is just naturally a very good shot. I am not

“bragging I think it's just because I am an intense listener like I listen to the instructions”

that you're telling me and I really want to be a good student and I would do exactly I'm going to line it up exactly the way you want me to have a listen okay is that young huh I'm going to do it yeah so I don't think it's any special skill I think it's just that. But the second day I was put through more of a simulation course of taking a hill and I was given not real bullets that day but simulations which are bullets that are filled with paint but if they hit you they can sting and my

my former FBI teacher sneak attacked me she had a guy like a plant who was a former military guy snuck onto the course with his own simulations gun and attacked me and I was firstly shook yeah and was like no no no who is this man why is there a man shooting at me like I I didn't sign up for this and she was like you're really you're really good shot but we got to get you in emotional you got to get you in the emotional place that you got to go because you are far too permeable and after

that she was like okay so now we're going to do one where you're jogging through the woods just pretend you're like jogging through central park you're in FBI agent you've got your gun on your hip your got your airpods in and there's a gentleman who's going to come up behind you and I said no

“not gonna do that one absolutely like I jogged at work but I think the point was we really have to”

get you in these scenarios where you're you're used to fighting your way through adrenaline and

that was obviously being a woman in the world we are always a little bit on guard and these agents

are super on guard but super ready do you did that change anything about you moving through the world after we're like because I know if I play like if I play a video game where I am like crashing my car a lot I'm definitely thinking about it in a new way when I'm driving home like I used to play a Grand Theft Auto and then there were and there were moments where I was like oh John this is real stay stay in the lane yeah those are real people over there yeah you can't you know two points yeah

you're not going to you don't want to get five stars you don't want that when that's going to the cops will get you you don't want that no and then you won't complete your task I I don't know the game but I am imagining but did that happen to you well I would yes well in a way yeah because you want that to happen to you right I had I had I I would walk down the street and I would try to remember everyone that I had seen and remember all the license plates and and know how to have

peripheral vision and know how we're to sit in the restaurant and I would do all those things all the time and it became very second nature to me I just wasn't a great place to exist that's cool

I can never remember license plates one agent told me that she taught her kid how to do that

that she would run simulations with her kids that she would say okay so if you were walking down the street and you notice somebody following you which house would you go into and I was like I don't know that one and she's like no there's no car parked in front of it that means there's no one home your dad and I was like wow this is very this so so it's really a huge part of their identity safety and awareness and hyper vigilance is it's just very intense and that became a huge

kind of fundamental underpinning of building the character I used to jog by the National Zoo and I would think if there's a tiger right now what's my plan and it's usually to die to die you know I once was in Alaska for a month with my mom and there was a ranger that said if you ever see a bear don't run and don't turn your back to it sing don't whistle it'll think you're a burden to lead you but if you sing they know only people sing and I thought this was like a stick until one morning

on my cabin porch I'm like seven years old my mom's in the shower in Alaska and a bear came up

“and like stood right in front of the cabin and I just went right into I think like if I were”

the king of the forest that's the one that came to mind and the bear was like I was like you're like no and the bear walked away so either he didn't like that song or yeah that's really cool really it's crazy that we all know that there's two kinds of bears and when you got to get small when you get a big but nobody ever tells you which one like we all know that right right now you know that get big gets small which bears which some of them you

got to lay down some of them just get down but some of them get big and I don't know right you know

which you've heard this right that that some bears what's the answer but see you don't know

that's true what are you doing you guys already fucking kills if it's breath see he had a little thing that he knew about rhyming but that was not already referenced it wow hey you remember the day after tomorrow yes how old were you in that you were so young 17 17 and in that climate change caused the world to get really really cold it did but that doesn't seem to be what's going on for us not certainly not certainly not that was an exciting time when we could imagine that

uh-huh and I for some strange reason that I I I know but when the wave is coming instead of immediately running I put on a bucket hat oh yeah you want to look good okay didn't want

“to get that blowout wet I believe was the note yeah that was the note not my desire but I was told”

to put that odd so I did the villain that movie is cold the cold the yes the wave and then the cold right cuz the villain the wolves and then the wolves yeah they're sort of like a like a like um a henchman of the cold yes but then in that movie also the cold become there's um um it's very cold everywhere but they're super cold that'll get you and it chases people around like helicopters yeah ever they freeze in the air and they fall out and they'll land they explode I do I wasn't in

those scenes but I don't know because I was all the movie I was stuck in the New York Public Library but I was using my body heat to keep jake jake jill and hall warm which was enjoyable for my character and also me but then since then your characters have become much more um uh um dark yes that's cool are you drawn to the dark character yes of course I think it's the opportunity to understand your shadow self all the stuff you are makes you uncomfortable scared that you might

do scared that you could be like one of the more interesting kind of wild swings that Liz takes with this character is her relationship with her sexual self she's an abused woman she has a very complicated relationship with this ex um that it's those relationships bands you know 20 plus years and she because of the nature of the way that her you know brain and her trauma has worked

“she now seeks out violence and it's a turn-on for her and I think that that is not confusing”

for her it's something that she accepts and likes and I remember reading that in the script and almost throwing the script across the room and being like ah you're gonna figure out how to make that seem real you're gonna have to figure out how to find those parts of yourself that desire those things that are intense that could hurt you that why you're drawn to the fire yeah I like it kind of like the wolves in the day after tomorrow correct thanks for bringing that back

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please give it up for awesome Oli and Chris Olson. Hi thank you. I saw a video of you

“you sit like this. What is this? Is this to establish dominance? It's I don't know it is like”

a gay thing. Feels good right? I don't I don't want to appropriate if it's like no no no no oh hey woke one's dead appropriation. Okay okay there we go. Free out the sombreras. It feels kind of nice as an Asian as an Indian person I I would get murdered if I put my feet on the any sort of furniture. Oh you know that's a that's a good point. Yeah I don't love it. Yeah you would have no I don't know. Okay okay okay yeah. Now awesome you were officially booked on this show. I was

to promote Deli Boys. And here we go here it takes a turn. And in between you coming on now wanting to come on the show. Coming on the show. Yes Deli Boys has been cancelled. And so in light of this news we figured we'd lead with a special segment and conversation we're calling setbacks. Okay here we go. Got another boulder. Okay. Shout out to the graphics department that is that is me. How's the news hit you in any word for those goons over at Hulu. Oh listen which cameras my camera.

You you you motherfuckers I swear to God if I don't let me get in a good power position you know the fuckers if I ever see I'm coming for you did how dare you and if you have anything else coming up I'd love to I'd love to get back in the in the Hulu family. I'd love that. Got a fun way to work. Got a fun way to work together. Hulu we got a fun way to work together. No it was a great experience is one of the best jobs I've ever had in my life and what a

unique show to be on and all South Asian front to show where we you know got to be you know the story instead of the sort of side character and I think it's going to be something that will pay dividends in the future. I'll be one of those shows where people go like I just saw that

“it'll be 20 years or so now I just saw it yeah you guys what happened that's what I say about”

my canceled show but hopefully for you it'll be true I think stuff I feel good about it I feel good I feel good yeah we had porno jogging out on on yeah amazing she's amazing in the show so she's so good we got one huge porno head here yeah yeah yeah that just says talk about the show

yeah Chris any setbacks like to talk about during our site setback section none I've never been

setbacks he's never been setback just no setback I've had a lot I've had a lot I'm I'm always going through a setback but just you know I but addiction was a tough one that's hard classic anyone on addict oh come on just me I guess Chris I yes that was a tough one getting sent to rehab at 19 felt like a setback I mean teen it was but then it setbacks always throw you ahead no that's a great yeah right for sure well maybe actually well the rehab is in the setback probably the alcoholism

would be the setback the rehab is the way to out of it yeah in a sense sure maybe I don't know what is it alcohol why am I telling you about your experience it was yeah it was it was it was it was a bunch of things alcohol alcohol was was one of them damn I got to live oh yeah get into that

“it's not the lesson that's that's what I'm taking from this yeah yeah did you spring your ankle”

I did spring my ankle making deli boys yeah you know it's funny watching Emmy talk about like all of the the all the stuff that she did also watching and being like oh I guess I'm I'm not a

real actor like the amount of I have never once been like what is my shadow self not once in my life that's

why I do comedy though I think that's I think that's the difference between like serious actors and then well that's who are on TV for a little bit you know what I mean there's that there's that great story though of Justin Hoffman staying up all night yeah we get into character for marathon man uh-huh and is and is it not Sherlock in us it's uh uh one of those old British guys he says um have you considered acting my boy but I was like you know what I'm gonna go a thousand

percent on this project we were so excited to be on deli boys so anything that they wanted me to do I would do too much so in this particular thing they were like hey you just need to run like people are chasing you you got to like get your fiance in the car and then you got to run and I took it as like oh you want me to run full fucking speed until I'm like a quarter of a mile so I was running full speed and I did you know you're you know you're not fucking around when you

I think you're like him I'm basically Indian Tom Cruise and I want that to be the title of this episode

yeah that was put on the list I definitely put on the picture for sure now Chris your book's called I think my therapist hates me and it's out September 1st sure what a good photo too I agree holy shit it's like thank you wow I'm crying it's like to all the boys I loved type of vibe yeah I mean well I'm gay oh okay well there you go yeah yeah I I felt good about that I I knew the title and what the the cover was gonna be before I started writing and

anything I just kind of like that was like the image in my head but I did that's yep it's coming out there's a book yeah do you think your therapist hates you or dude is that's just something you were afraid of not it not anymore there was a time when I was at rehab I still work with the

same therapist I did whoa at that rehab I was at but when I was there it was very intense it was very

“kind of shame based in a way like you are a bad person and the rest of your life is making up for that”

tough stuff that was their strategy what oh yeah that's not sorry wait go back sorry therapist is saying you're a bad you're you saying you're a bad person or is the therapist saying you're a bad person all of the therapists there are kind of saying that damn bro it's tough read about it in the book um don't tell them anything else yeah but it has been interesting working with that exact same therapist because she has since left that place because she also figured out that was maybe

not the way she wanted to be a therapist and so now we're undoing the things that she had once done but I also think the thing like sort of like pain tries to build a cabinet yes yes yes yes yes

yeah right building it back up I think my therapist hates me the it can also be

substituted for anything I think everyone hates me I think I hate me I think you hate me but it's just what you were telling me that backstage you're like I hate his fucking guts that's crazy you were talking you're right you're right I got out of here not out of here I got to be I have to be kind of open and amenable you're here of course of course trying to be curious

“that's why I wrote this book because of you um yeah my goal in therapy was to always be”

like listen I'm not some weeks I'm going to have some weeks I'm going to have break through something so I'm not but every week I'm going to have a great time you're going to have a fun I'm going to bring it yeah I'm going to bring it's going to be the adventure it's going to be the adventure and then I'm just going to stop responding right wow no you started posting videos during the pandemic and you've really you know I would say you're someone that would be in the

category of posting through to it you've posted through the high highs in the low low high much you know well that's I don't that would be for somebody to discover maybe that's one of the things you find out about in the book it's to whether it was too much of the right amount right whoa but there've been moments where like I definitely was aware of you and then I remember you we're like getting a lot of attention including like a lot of like unwanted attention and people

sharing photos of you that you didn't want shared and you really kind of dealt with it kind of to the camera and I'm wondering like why you why you do that and what and whether at times you question whether you're putting too much out there I yeah I often every day is I have a different relationship with social media but then there are also eras of different relationships with it and that particular era was one of sharing quite a lot and just feeling the emotion

and posting it in real time and I think I realized that maybe there's not much peace being protected in that and that was also coincidentally around the time that I was in the middle of writing about many of the things I went through as a kid and as a teenager and so it was just there was so

“much emotion coursing through me at the time and I think now I still find it very important to be”

vulnerable but you also need to know which parts of you you want to protect for yourself or for the inner circle and then what part may be important to share because someone else could want to hear it and it could help them. Okay so I'm going to ask an important question I'm going to start by saying that sometimes I think I love cooking and cook all the time. Oh do you? I love cooking and then sometimes I'll think oh I should post about this and post

while I want to make something and show people what I'm doing because I'm having such a long time doing it but then I have this moment where I think oh but then you're going to turn it into a form of work. You're going to take this thing that you love doing that's personal and now it's just another part of content and you're giving you're taking something that was outside of the content minds and you're bringing it down into the content minds and I like I sometimes like when

you're having an moment where you're emotional you're upset about something there also has to

saying like right there I mean there's there's so it's it is so funny to think at points not in this

“serious moment that we were talking about but when I am crying and I think I got to take a photo of”

this. Wow this is good. This is good. I mean but most of the time in those moments it's like I'm listening to a song or I'm listening or I'm watching a movie and and I'm not necessarily watching this. I'm watching this. I'm watching. Yeah. Anything you've gone. Yes. But in those in that moment specifically you know I felt I think there is so much I can track therapeuticly why I then eventually felt almost like I needed to share my sadness about what was going on in my life and I think it

was a culmination of eventually getting to the point of I had been sharing so much about my life at that point and I felt like I was too open but that it had been taken advantage of and and but at the same time I'm writing a book that feels very open and vulnerable and so I think it was just kind of the pinnacle of me realizing that like sometimes being open doesn't necessarily mean

always it isn't always a positive thing in terms of a parasocial relationship. It can be for the

people in your life but it feels so cathartic a lot of the time to share something you're going through online because you kind of create community in the comments of that video but then you kind of have to decide which moments I do want to share to create that kind of community what do I need support about but ultimately what is the point of sharing this. Yeah. Now awesome. Someone who had a parasocial relationship with you is no wrong on Donnie. Yes. Who is a fan of your sketch show. Yes.

And so how did I met so run in New York? Actually we went to do press and upstate New York after season one and we had met some of the people that were working on his like election campaign and we made a little video. Me and soccer made like a little video for him and then when I actually met him this is after he had won we were at like a eat dinner in New York and I was like oh I'm

“going to go introduce myself and probably be like hey I did that video for you probably don't remember”

whatever and then I was like hey I mean he's like I know you. Goatface and I can that's the name of the tree. That just means that it kind of insulting comment. That was the name of the city of the face of a ghost. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Me as a manhodge for him on war and air solitary had a

sketch group when we first moved Ellie and he was like I love your stuff man. I I've been watching

since I was like a kid and then I was like oh my god that guy's the mayor now. He was watching our dumb our dumb sketches. It's tough to hear the mayor of New York say since I was a kid. That's a little bit of a gut punch for the mayor. But it is pretty awesome to know that like I didn't that's like my biggest name drop. I can die knowing like yeah he knows me. That's cool. He knows how cool is that. That's very cool. That would be like if Obama knew your soundcloud. And he was like yeah you were

you're getting into like EDM in the early 2000s. Very cool. I know that stuff. Yeah.

“I remember Soundcloud. I have my brains going to Soundcloud. You know about Soundcloud? No. Fuck. We're moving on.”

Go to commercial immediately. Yeah. Now as of you have a you do stand up about how Indian weddings. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Any roles the bit is it's not that before I get canceled. The bit is that that's over. I do not do that anymore. I I went to India with my family and I went there for a wedding and I was like Googling like about the city and stuff. And then I saw some articles where they're like yeah same sex marriages and legal in India. And I found that very funny because you know to me

Indian weddings are like they're very flamboyant. And I was like that dichotomy didn't make any sense to me. That you could have such a flamboyant event yet at the same time be like no. Two dudes, two chicks. You guys can't get married. But I'm going to hold hands with this man and dance with him. And there will be no women allowed. But this is a very straight event. I'm going to feed I'm going to feed another man with my hands. But two dudes can't get married.

They get it. But we all sort of curious but other areas where Indian culture and game culture might overlap and because simply finding common ground is boring. We thought we could fight over which areas those truly belong to in a game. We're calling Bollywood or West Hollywood. And here's how it works. I'm going to. Yeah. I'm going to name a thing. Awesome and Chris. You'll each have to make your case for the why that thing is more gay or more Indian.

We have an Indian writer on the staff. Hey man. Don't worry about it. I guess it's fine. And even though my sexual orientation is a little bit all over the place,

Land right friend Samir. Oh, not yours. Good. And I was a big day. It was a big two-day affair. And what did it feel like? It was great. I liked the part where we all followed the car. Isn't that sick? Well, dance behind the car. Chase after a car. Yeah, it was cool. It used to be like a horse or an elephant back in the day. Oh, that was just a mid-size SUV. Yeah. Cool. L if it would be better. Way better. All right. Here we go. First up.

Elaborate processions. Elaborate processions. More gay or more Indian. We have the gay pride parade. We also have Indian. I would say if we're just going straight up elaborate, I would say that's probably more gay. Okay. Okay. Once you're involving teams and outfits

“and orders and stuff like that, it ends up being a little, I think it leans towards gay more. What”

do you think? I like how everyone got really quiet because they don't want to be wrong. They're like, I know the camera's not on me, but I don't want to be in trouble. I think gay is right. I think that makes sense. I'm sure we can defer to you on the Indian part and just sort of own the gay part.

Because a lot of what happens in India can be called "elaborate" because there's a billion people.

So you cannot have a small anything there. Any event you do is going to be so many people. We're going to give it to you. West Hollywood. Yes. We have men holding hands at the grocery store. It seems gay to me, but in Indian, like you can be straight in India and be holding hands. That is considered a straight thing. Which is cool. It is awesome. I think it's great. I'm like, why do you guys stop at not letting same-sex people get married? But this is like,

well, there's so much, like we haven't been pinkies. Look at that. That's so cool. Could you imagine? Well, I just, I remember when I was a little boy, when I was a little boy, when I was a little boy, like, the boys would hold hands. Yes. And it really, there's something that has changed even in that, like, I think that wouldn't happen anymore. Yeah. But there was, like, touches, like, why, it's why athletes still touch.

Places where masculinity is not as question. They're still touching. Like athletes will still touch.

“Yeah. People will touch an emotional moment. That's why straight guys will try to gravitate towards things where they can do that.”

Yeah. Go to a game. So like, in hug a guy. Are you a escort? Like in hug a guy. Are you a handholder in life? Like if you're dating someone or seeing someone, do you like to hold hands or are you not a hold handholder? I don't like, I don't know. So we're going to call that Indian. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I forgot what we're supposed to say. I get it. Yes. Let's just come on. He's saying,

let's call that Indian. And finally, high fiber diets. High fiber diet. It's a lot of beans. It's

a lot of rice. Is it because your Indian is because you're going to get fucked in the ass? What did you think it was about? What did you think it was about? Right. I'll say it's the second one. Yeah. Probably I'm guessing. All right. We're giving that one to West Hollywood. Come on. And that's our game. Thank you, Chris Olson and Olson. All right, Chris. But Chris's book. I think my therapist hates me as available for pre-order now and check out

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“And we're back. Please welcome back to the stage. Amy Rossa. Yes. Yes. What's this?”

What's this? What's this? What's this? What do you want? What are we going to do? Oh, no, it's great. Great, great, great, great, great. You've done awesome. Perfect. Again, it's so deep. This is so deep. It's a deep couch. It's a deep couch. I got it out of vintage store. I love it. As I put all my anxiety about moving the show from a theater to the stage by going and shopping for vintage furniture. Or just similarly how Donald Trump can't handle

the vast number of failures all around him and the things outside of his control. I focus on a ballroom. I don't I can't control all the ways. And I have this a lot that was going into this. But I could shop for a couch at a vintage store. At least the ones that were open over the weekend. Right. Who was your Natalie Harp? What? I'm just a boy looking for his Natalie Harp. I got a

“just a man looking for a wireless print. I got to tell you something. I gotta tell you something. The”

staff of this show, I don't need Natalie Harp. Maybe somewhere between how they treat me now and Natalie Harp would be great. I don't need to be, I don't need that kind of devotion. But people who respect me would be nice. He doesn't need to let her. He needs a text message. A pass to something.

Yeah. No, no, never in everyone's team is great. Now, what do I always say? I love the union.

Okay. Yeah. Now, in honor of Emmie's truly excellent show on Hulu, we're putting a new spin on an old classic introducing the furious wheel. Hell yeah. Oh, yeah. Here's how it works. When the wheel lands on you, it's time to go off about something. Your furious about. As if you're on the verge of becoming a female serial killer. Oh. Or it could just be something that bugs. Yeah. Let's spin the wheel. Okay. Okay. This, um, euphemisms. I don't like euphemisms. I want a thing to be

called a thing. Okay. I don't want to call it ghosting. That's abandonment. Oh. I don't want to call it conscious uncoupling. That's the dissolving of a partnership. And here's one that really, really freaks me out. Do you know about Alpine divorce? No, what's up? Alpine divorce is when he is such a pussy. He can't break up with you. Oh. But instead, he takes you on a hiking trip to the top of a mountain and doesn't even have the balls to necessarily push you off. Push you off. No, he leaves you there.

Because in this version, he doesn't actually have to watch you die, right? He's just going to make his own way down the mountain and leave you without any skills or any tools or any compass or anything like this. And hopefully, he'll have created a situation in which you cease to be able to be alive. Um, and that really pisses me off because we shouldn't call it Alpine divorce. Alpine divorce is a candle at anthropology that's giving like fine and Bergman. Yeah. I'm done.

I'm done. Wow. That's incredible. Thank you. Holy moly. Alpine divorce is such a good

name for a candle. It really is. So funny. Getting just a hint of I can't have a direct conversation with him. Yes. With notes of resentment. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Gentle note. And avoidance. Yeah, avoidance resentment that build up to the point where you have justified yourself this conduct. You know, little cedar. Yeah, little cedar. Yes. God. Little cedar. Little cedar. There's something cool. Something cool. All right. Let's spin it again.

It's land on Chris. Damn, dude. Here we go. Okay. Stop. Stop. You shouldn't be allowed on the internet if you're in a bad mood. If you're in a really bad mood about something or specifically

“social media and you shouldn't be allowed to comment. Also, to comment, you should have to post”

a photo or video of yourself first. We need to see who you are. Coward? Yeah. Show yourself.

I'm not talking about the things where people are getting on and having some discourse about things. If you're going to call me ugly, I just want to see what you look like. And I'm not going to say that. But also, you know, let's just let's also maybe if we don't go online when we're in a horrible mood or we're feeling angry at the world, that's not going to happen. And we can we can all be happier together. Maybe. Right. Restrictions on it. Post your photo of yourself.

Let's see you. Also in the last eight seconds, I just want to say I love Phantom of the Opera.

Not furious about that. Indeed. That's what we should be doing. Yeah. Thank you, each other. I just like to subscribe. Come on.

Like, and subscribe. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. It's, you know, it's always like,

ah, people can't, these anonymous comments, but no, we have to have anonymous people on the internet because what about the Chinese dissidents? And it's like, well, I don't think the Chinese dissident is calling me fat. You know what I'm saying? Hey, so how funny would be if they were the fire? You're like, but we're going to use the weird way to use the social media platform. And I compromise is for people is that I don't care. I don't necessarily need you to post a

“picture of you, but I think everyone should always have to have pinned at the top. The room”

they're posting from. You know what I mean? You saw the horrible dens and could have rooms and spaces. And it's like, well, pretty, pretty, a lot of pretty hotly, pretty opinion for a guy posting from that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, do you think about wow, two think about let's spin it again. Fine, I have been dealing with this my whole life. Stop coming at us for eating slow.

I'm sick of it. People are always coming at my ass for taking my time. Oh, is it illegal to

save or a meal? A succulent Chinese, I'm just kidding. Why can't I eat slowly? But my whole life you'll be like, hurry up, hurry up, hurry up, hurry up. I always eating slow, why are I eating slow? And I'm like, because I'm enjoying my life. Much less if I start eating with my hands, these two girls know what I'm talking about. If I start eating with my hands, then it becomes a whole like, oh, now we're now it's national geographic. People can't open the aperture to be like,

perhaps I would like to eat these with my hands and I'd like to take my time. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's, this is the type of, I think we need to go back to to slow living. You know what I mean? Everyone's like, I want to not be on social media and I want to unplug.

But then they're like, hurry, hurry, the fuck up, why aren't you inhaling this burrito right now?

And it's like let's unplug your. Let's let's chill. There's a there's a there's a challenge we're all facing which is if digital technology and not just social media But just computers and and and information technology has made us more productive individual spaces. That has raised the value of time across the economy, including in non-digital time. Yeah, I do sometimes things some of the reason traffic gets crazy and people drive more

“Recklessly and they eat faster is because they are dealing there's a name for it. There's this paradox where that's why like and so because time itself is you can do more with it”

Because of technology you end up feeling like you're wasting time just doing things at a normal analog pace. I see what you're saying. So like eat the bread or really really fast so you can get on the internet and leave really rude comments. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. You're anonymously for sure. I can't wait to tell my husband tonight that I understand now why he eats so fast and I won't nag him I'm like, "Yo, why are you eating so fast? Like it's not a race."

He's not gonna be so annoying. I don't know how fast that, you know what to eat, but I want to know what he's like, "Okay." Yeah, it's just because of the upward pressure AI is putting on GDP. Yeah. And individual productivity, let's spin it again.

This language on me and I want to tell you about a little rabbit hole I went down last night. Last night there was a mayoral debate between Karen Bassen, Nithia Romand is a pleasure. My partner is working for Nithia Romand but I've been quite frustrated with Karen Bass ever since she came out Against the housing policy that I believe is necessary for the safety of the long-term prosperity of the city. I then was reading about the ways in which Pottles and Street Repair has gotten worse in LA.

It turns out for eight months last year there were no street repairs in Los Angeles.

“That's crazy. Why? LA passed a rule that said you have to update the streets with ADA compliant ramps.”

That if you're gonna do a street renovation legally, it was already the law. You have to go back and put in a ramp. That is expensive. And so instead of repairing the city, they're doing little patches. So they've stopped doing actual paving and they've started doing little patches to avoid doing a ramp. Why are they avoiding doing a ramp? Because ramps in Los Angeles are expensive.

How much? $50,000 a corner? $50,000 a corner. $200,000 to do an intersection. You may think, oh, that's just California. No, it's half the price in Beverly Hills. You take a foot, a step over. They do it in Beverly Hills for half, which is still 10 times for the cost and fucking Dallas. That's it.

Cheez! I got to get into the ramp business. Absolutely outfucking rages. And so instead of actually repaying the city properly, we do a quick and dirty fix that costs more over the long term.

Charges to repair the ramps. And instead of actually reforming and figuring out why the fuck it's costing 50 grand to fix a corner. We're just not gonna have paved roads. But don't worry, the city is paving some roads, roads in part of the city that don't have sidewalks. Well, where are those places?

Those are a few suburban neighborhoods with less traffic.

“Where are the places that are the streets are all fucked up?”

The high traffic areas filled with the fucking people. That's where they're not paving the roads. They're repaying the roads in the parts of the city that are quieter and empty and the streets are better. So they can avoid dealing with the fact that they can't repay the roads in the parts of the city where the roads need to be repaved because they've gotten so much shit for failing to repay the fucking roads.

And anyway, that's just another thing that's going on in Los Angeles, which I will periodically update you on in a segment we call. What the fuck is going on in Los Angeles? [laughter and applause] We'll be coming back.

Second thoughts. [music] And we're back. [laughter]

Now for a segment we call second thoughts.

Here's how it works. We talk about what we regret from tonight. Oh, just from this episode. This episode is anything that's on my mind. Wow. And the producers, my producers who I love and cherish, have written the list of things they think I should already regret.

Oh. And if you have anything that you'd like to add, please do. Okay. I do have one that is as a rare treat, a pre-show regret. And I'm just going to read what it said.

You spent too much time tweeting about the Sherman Oaks homeowner's association. [laughter] Today, instead of working on the show, I was pissed. [laughter] You have any for us that we should regret?

Uh, I have regrets about what I did with you. But leave up to you the regrets that you might have about what you brought to the show. For example, for Emmy, I want to just reiterate that I did not lie to the FBI agent. [laughter] Oh, about how many times he got sold.

Let's see, I compared your traumatic FBI training to playing Grand Theft Auto. [laughter] I may have platform bare misinformation. Oh, yeah. So I mean, to think about there and no one knows, I explained the plot of the film day after tomorrow, which you were in.

Yes. Two of you. I love it. Well, I've had poor posture during most of our segments. And I touched you without asking.

Oh, I didn't.

I like when I went my legs to the second book loading.

[laughter] I hate Emmy. No, you're all good. Okay, great. Okay, great.

Chris and Osis, I immediately used to bring out the some braeros. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I argued with Crick about whether rehab was a setback. [laughter]

Have a little bit of regret about that. It was Sir Lawrence Olivier who told Dustin Hoffman to try acting. I was the name I couldn't find. Got it. I shouldn't have told Osis backstage that I hate Chris.

Yeah, you shouldn't have done that.

“But in all honesty, it's good to have it out there, you know?”

Yeah, it's good to have it out there. It's good for the, it's good for the book. It's good for the book. It's good for the book. It's good for the book.

Chris, any regrets about this evening? Oh, doing the show. [laughter] It's made it. No, I know.

No regrets. No regrets about it. I feel, I feel great.

My regret is that you ask me a question and then I will just keep talking.

So that's it. [laughter] Cool. [laughter] I mean, do you have any regrets?

More than the ones. Also, I, yeah, something about my shoe. I can't. It keeps getting, it keeps getting stuck on my shoe. And then I keep thinking it out.

I don't know. I don't know. What was sitting back? And I really needed some boob tape. But I'm okay.

I'm surviving. Yeah. She'll be okay, I think. There's no regret in there. Osis.

Yeah. Do you have any additional? I feel like sitting next to me. I'm like a man. I should have wore more interesting outfit.

[laughter] I mean, I look like a guy you'd hire to move this furniture. Right before the show, one of the producers of this show said, "Is that what you're wearing?" Yeah.

To me. Oh, to you. He said, "Is that what you're wearing?" Because I think darker would work better on the show.

“But if that's what you're wearing for today, it's fine.”

That's a very, that's a very mom thing to do. Like, "Oh, is that the way you're going to comb your eyebrows?" We love you, but we're just worried about it. Why did you look at me and then talk about eyebrows? No, no.

My mom has, my mom has a thing about my eyebrows. Should I do like them so heavy? I don't think, yeah. Do you like them so heavy? That's a good question.

I'll tell you. I'm on my like them heavy. I have no, I only have one regret that this show is now over. And that is our show. Thank you so much, Amy.

Rossum. Awesome. There are 74 days until the midterm's have a great weekend. Whoever needed is a quick and medium production. Our show is produced by Kendra James Domegraft,

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