Faith Over Fear: Governor Wes Moore on Service, Patriotism & Moral Leadership

I'm a kid who watched my dad die in front of me when I was three years old.

“I had handcuffs from our wrist by the time I was 11.”

I joined the Army at 17 years old. I graduated from a two-year college. And I now serve as a 63rd governor on the state of Maryland. But the reason that I hear is because there were people who saw me there before I saw myself. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to...

I usually say another exciting episode of Macomb Club.

But today I'm going out there and I'm being honest and I'm saying this is the most important conversation

that I've ever had. You know, almost 300 episodes, 300 guests. But the man that I'm talking to today has inspired me. Someone who's the same age as me has roots to where I live. I mean, you all know him as the best governor in these United States.

But I know him as one of the best leaders that our countries have ever seen a leader of man, a leader of humans, and just a leader of the great state in Maryland. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm honored to bring to you the governor, less and more. Governor, more how are you doing today, bro? Hey, listen, I cannot tell you how much, how excited I am right now.

“How much I appreciate you, and listen, I think one of the things I'm really inspired by”

you, but is there's one thing to be successful, it's another thing to be relevant. You've been successful. I mean, you have been able to hit the tops and so many different spaces and, you know, in business and I mean, like, you know, sold two businesses. I mean, that's just like this is wild, but it's the relevancy.

It's the then turning it and doing things that you can say, listen, we can both lift as we climb and making sure that we are not leaving people behind, which is, which is our mantra here in the state of Maryland. So this is, this is the honor for me, man. It really is.

So thank you. I'm the honor one. I look at it like you allow the blueprint for people like me to do it. We do you inspire so many people and a lot of what I do, man, it's because I've seen how you do it, and I've said it in the open, or we're the same age.

So to see someone who's so impactful and at like all the things that you do, you just inspire me to push too, bro. Thank you, man. Thank you. Yes, sir.

Exactly the same age. It means I got word to do. No, I'm trying to catch up. I'm trying to catch up.

But speaking of that, man, like, I always ask my guess this question about what's your

be caused. That thing that's deeper than your why I call it your true passion. And for me to ask you this question is so surreal to understand your be caused. That deeper than your why, like why is Governor Moore continue to do all the dynamic things in the state of Maryland and in all the communities that you're a part of, man, like what's

your be caused? Why do you keep going to things that you do? I'd say it's because service saved me, because I have people who, I mean, like, listen, and I tell people that I'm probably the most improbable governor in this country. You know, I'm a kid who watched my dad die in front of me and I was three years old because

he didn't get to healthcare that he needed that, you know, my mother did not get her first job that gave her benefits out to my dad died until I was 14 years old, but I had handcuffs from our wrist by the time I was 11, because we grew up in a community that was over police to me knew it. I joined the Army at 17 years old, I went to, I grabbed you from a two-year college and

I now serve as a 63rd governor on the state of Maryland. And I think to myself, where's like, but the reason that I'm here is because there were people who saw me there before I saw myself, like the people who were willing to serve and people who were whether it was coaches and ministers and teachers and aunties and uncles and like, you know, people who just were willing to sacrifice for the hope of me and I take

that very seriously where, you know, I think about the work that we do in Maryland, I think

about the fact that we made Maryland the first state in the country that has a service

your option for all of our high school graduates. I think about this work because I know that service will save us because service saved me.

“Wow, that's why you are who you are, man.”

Like, that right there, you talk about service saving you and, you know, I know the story of you trying to leave, right? Trying to leave service for a little bit.

service to you now. Yeah. It is true because like, I was, I was sent to a military school when I was in art school.

“And people are always like, you know, no, why did you choose to go to military school?”

I'm like, yo, to be clear, no one chooses to go to military school. We all, we all get, we all get chosen to go to military school.

And, and, and those first days, like, I was very clear, like, I don't want to be here.

I'm not going to be here. And so, you know, in the first, I think four days, I'll run away five times from the school. And I would just keep on trying to run away and finally, they found me in the middle of the woods because they drove me a map on how to get to the train station, but the map was fake.

The map literally took me nowhere. They just endured watching, seeing a watching a flashlight, make circles, and they were getting a laugh out of it. And when I got a chance to talk to my mom, she told me she was like, and this is like, this is, you know, make it's, wow, this was like 1 o'clock and more.

Yeah.

“And so, I call my mom, and 10 o'clock was not used to phone, but they said you're”

going to make one phone call, and I called her, and I was like, mom, ready to go home. Can you come get me? All the gossip. And she says to me, she's like, too many people have sacrificed no more for you to be there. And you have to understand.

It's not all about you. And I'd be lying if I said anything changed that night because it didn't. But I eventually began to understand what she was talking about. And I got close to my plea brothers to people who I was there with, and they gave me a little bit of rank and a little bit of responsibility, so it actually felt good to be in charge of

something. And by the end of the first year, I said, if it's okay, I'd like to sit tight and I ended up, you know, staying there throughout my high school career. But it was, it was definitely something where it didn't happen overnight. And this is why I tell us tell people, like, nothing worthwhile comes easy to you.

The stuff that comes easy is usually never worth it.

“The only thing is it'll worth it, it's stuff that you actually have to work for.”

And, but it was one of the most important decisions that I made when I actually chose to actually put in the work. The amazing, bro. Amazing. You know, I have to give you some kudos and some flowers right here.

And I'm going to try not to get emotional about it, because you mean this much to me. And I call this segment the unplug truth. And this is my unplug truth for you right here. This year we celebrate 250 years of American independence, right? I watched on 4th of July, the top three greatest speeches I've ever heard in my life.

Wow. And it was Governor Westmore. For whatever reason, I'm not even going to lie and say I was seeking it out. But you know, like I'm flipping through and I'm on sea span. And I see you analysis you're about to do the speech.

And I have so many notes here on that speech, because I'm with family, you know, we're in the south. Got the grill, got the smoker going, maybe got some spades going on over here in the corner. And everybody that I'm with and it's like 25, 30 people. We all paused everything that we were doing, because it was one of the most dynamic speeches

in the history of speeches that I've ever heard, man. And so you talked about the work of patriotism and there's so many quotes that I have. But one of the things that stood out to me was you said that faith is in the foundation of patriotism. And I was so moved for like 15, 20 minutes, man.

Like, when you were finished, I wish I could whatever recorded it for you. Everybody that was in the house stood up clapping, I had uncles that had tears in their eyes, man. Like, bro, that was one of the greatest speeches I heard of my wife. And I'd love to just, when I'm giving you your flowers for that.

But talk to us about the work of patriotism, man, and how all of us or part of it, I'm not even going to give this to you, but like, just talk to us about that. I can't tell you enough how much I'm much that means, man, sincerely, thank you. And, you know, when I first decided to do it, I wanted to address the fact that I felt like there was a larger, bastardization of patriotism that was taking place and how there

was also this, people were trying to use patriotism and nationalism like they were the same, that they're interchangeable and they're not. Because patriotism doesn't mean lying about your history, you know, patriotism means being willing to be part of the future of what is the greatest experiment in world history.

And that's not saying the experiment was almost perfect, because it hasn't been always

perfect. But what it is saying is, is that every single generation, we have an opportunity to make

more freedoms, and protect our values in a way that even maybe historically wasn't done

to those who came before us, because they're willing to fight for us.

“And I think about that in context where when we talk about the difference between my grandfather”

gave me a Bible right before I left for Afghanistan, who was asking my grandfather, who was born, actually, in South Carolina. And in that Bible, where he just wrote four words, he said, "Have faith not fear." In the front of that Bible, and I think about that in context where faith really is the foundation of patriotism, a faith that we can be better than the day before, a faith that we all have an integral, integral role in terms of making

us better. Fear is the foundation of nationalism. And nationalism is not a legions to a values or a cause. Nationalism is a legions to a person or a group. And fear is what drives nationalism. And the thing that I ask every day of myself, of Marylanders and all of us is, every day, let's choose faith. Let's not choose fear. Let's choose faith that we can be an extension of this remarkable journey that this country has been on. And to say that

we hope to achieve what even those who wrote those beautiful documents at first knew they

would never see for themselves, because they knew that while the document was beautiful

basement beings were flawed. And the hope that every generation we can get a little bit better,

“and that I think is our responsibility, and if we choose faith instead of fear, I think”

we've actually got a chance of accomplishing it. Bro, you just got me emotional as you were just talking because it just brought me back to that moment on worth the July. What I could listen to you all day, but to break it down in that way, man, like we talk about everything that you are, the pillars of what your core values are to me are always rooted in what we've talked about in the last couple of minutes, right? Service, right? Faith, understanding

the history that brought us here. And then the legacy that you're going to leave forward. And when I heard that speech and you opened it so well, you talked about the room and a couple of stories below where you were standing, what the history was and everything that brought it there, man. And you put it together so well. And then you talked about what patriotism means and what's required of us. And I was so moved, and it's like full circle for me right

now, because we're talking about it. So I get to hear the depth of how that speech came together. What's required of us, man? Like, what can all of us do? And it doesn't matter where you live. It doesn't matter race, ethnicity, none of that. Like, there's a requirement of all of us to be better patriot. And I think a lot of times with media, they blow things much more out of proportion than they actually are. And I get everyone has a job, but you

just talked about that fear. And I think fear is what everybody sells, right? Like, fear is what sells. We don't pay attention to solutions and the faith to see things completed

the right way, man. Like, what can we all do now as humans and this amazing country that

we live in to enhance patriotism? Let's say, well, first, you just hit the nail head on it. And I think if everyone understands and embraces that, people will have a better understanding of how to lean forward on this because you're right. I mean, like, if you listen to folks if you allow yourself to get inside the rabbit holes and kind of the board Texas up, you would think we're just like irreparably broken. You would think no, a talk to each other.

You think no one communicates. You would think that like the world is just horrific. And I think it takes a real deal of discipline to understand that the world is bigger than what

“is directly in front of you, particularly if the only thing that's directly in front”

of you is a screen that we live in a big, in a beautiful, in a bright world and we all have a place in it, right? And I think the thing that I want everyone to do and I hope for everyone to do is I understand there's a lot of people who are very skeptical right now and I get it. I totally understand it because I think that there have been a lot of promises broken, which only fuels the skepticism that people have. But when we know our history

but the truth is there's only been two things that have gotten us out of difficult moments

in our history and has been God's grace and moral leadership. That's it. Every single time, God's grace, moral leadership. And we pray for God's grace right now. But also, we seek moral leadership because I actually think that if people know our history and can lean on it and if people are willing to find the thing that makes their heart beat a little bit faster and

“do something about it, then I think we're actually going to be in a much greater place and we”

will make sure that we're bringing everybody along on this journey and not just some of us, which is actually what's going to make us sustainable. Amen to that, amen to that, brother. I want to give you some more shout outs and some more kudos because you've done so much for the state of Maryland. And I call this segment like, "Hate." So these are just going to be my hot takes. You don't have to say anything.

This is just me. And I know all of your, your brother and ancestors that are governors and

leaders of all the great states of this nation do amazing jobs. Yeah, into a dog on it,

governor more, what you've done with Maryland, bro, is wild. And again, I've got stats here, unemployment, historic lows, violent crimes all time low, increase minimum wage, people are buying homes in the state of Maryland, do like, I don't think people understand the significance of that. Because you got to know Maryland, you got to know the history and I'm not even a lot of people think of Baltimore when they think of, but I'm talking about all of Maryland,

time. People are buying homes, people are prosperous. Dude, you, you've done so much in the time that you started that so unreal to get to the numbers when we talk about violent crimes. And I like to get to the numbers that you are when Maryland was what, top two or three, I say top two or three, but rate one, two or three and violent crimes. And now in the 40s, like that's insane in a good way. When we talk about the things you do for young people,

when we talk about just the vibrance that Maryland has now, a lot is owed to you, man.

“Now, well, I honestly, a lot is owed to us. I'm just, I'm blessed that I am one of six and a”

half million people who have decided that we're going to really do something that isn't

done quite often in this country, we're actually going to work together. You know, there's nothing that we have accomplished by a person or a group or a jurisdiction or whatever. It's like, it's because we've actually chosen to build a table that's big enough for everybody. I mean, the fact that Maryland has amongst the fastest drop in violence crime by the crime anywhere in America, the homicide rate in the state of Maryland is down nearly 60 percent since we came on board.

But I'm very clear, do you know why? It's because we chose to work with the mayor, chose to work with local law enforcement, chose to work with community violence entrepreneurs,

“chose to work with our partners across the board, and that's what's helped to drive these”

type of results. The fact that we have been able to be able to quadruple the amount of apprenticeship and trade slots that we have, in the largest mass part in the history of the United States of America, where I've pardoned over 100, 75,000 misdemeanor cannabis convictions, because you cannot talk about the benefits of legalization. If you don't address the consequences of criminalization, we made Maryland the first day in the country that has a servicier option

for all of our high school graduates, like we're doing it together. And that's the thing I love so much about this moment is if we think that there is going to be a silver bullet to fix these problems, or a single thing that we can do, then I know that we're just sorely mistaking, but I think the reason that we're really proud in Maryland, it's not just what we've done, it's how we've done it, and that is what I think is scalable.

Matt, so I'm going to go out on the record and say this, if it didn't get cold in Maryland sometimes, I think I can make Maryland my home. I love where it is knowing where it came from. And again, this isn't to talk negative about anyone that was in place before you. That's not the story here, the story is the changes that has happened. We talk about being able to walk outside at night.

flying into BWI or flying into wherever because, hey, it feels safe now, right? Like you've

“done so much with the help. You talked about, you know, local mayors and local city councilmen”

and women and like all of that matters. We talk about service men and women. We talk about

first responders and when I am in the state of Maryland and I have a huge passion for our

service men and women in our first responders, right? To hear them talk about the change is mind-blowing. To hear a police chief talk about how proud they are to say that they're the chief of this city or this town and that they really would coward that if they were in another state. Do like, you guys have done it. You guys have done it. Together. Together. Yes. Together. Yeah. So here's another hot take. And you've been talking about it a lot recently, man. Like

energy and AI. And I've heard you talk about, you know, your mom calling and say, hey, I went from $100. I was $500 a month in energy and we're seeing it here in the Carolina's two, man. Like, what's it going to take for this to get better for us to be able to tolerate it a little bit? Like, from the words of government more because as you've eloquently said lots of times, government can't do it. Right? What is it going to take? I mean, you're right where this is a

national phenomenon. There's no state that is is not dealing with this issue. And a lot of these things, unfortunately, they're being caused by national forces, right? I mean, it's not, it's not lost on anybody that in the past, you know, we're talking about in the past year and a half. We've

now seen energy prices increased by over 17 percent in my state alone. We're watching gas prices

that have absolutely jumped in just the past, you know, in the past 10 weeks. Because of wars, we're just choosing to fight overseas that I'm still not sure, I do not understand what we're doing.

“But it's, so this is a national phenomenon. I think the things that we have to be able to do”

is frankly being able to think about some of the things that we should have been thinking about for years. And I know years before I became the governor is how do we take an all-buy-buy approach when it comes to our energy? I'm a big believer that we need to have solar and wind and battery storage and all these other things nuclear, you know, all these energy frameworks. Because these are things that can both we can strengthen the grid. It's the cheapest, the cleanest and the fastest

way of being able to add more energy assets. Because part of the problem is it's that you're getting

a greater demand, more people, more people using more energy. But if the supply stays flat, then you're going to watch prices rise. And so we need more supply when it comes to our energy supports. And we need to be very specific about our individual jurisdictions. I say that for this reason, the type of energy that we can benefit from, for example, in the state of Maryland, we can benefit from things like offshore wind. And that's just simply because of our geography,

right? Now we actually have to ask this to do that. Iowa can't benefit from offshore wind. And that's okay. So then let's come up with ways that these individual states can have the way the things that can benefit them most and stop looking at this like it's some kind of ideology.

“And this is where I think the politics gets in the way of all this that if we're actually able to”

invest in the things that in our own individual states and why the governor's matter in this, where we can actually speed up our process, add more assets, and do more to be able to provide a strengthening of a grid and get more projects greenlit. Then we would be able to address a lot of these pricing creases that we're just seeing all around the country right now, which are just unacceptable. Yeah. Totally unacceptable. And one of the companies that I own is a AI

company in the inshari space. And I've had to deal with data centers and understanding more about data centers now than I ever did before. Yeah. What can we do there? Like at some point, I'm not going to say something needs to be done because I do think things are being done. I just don't know if they're being done and leaps and violence to keep up with the demand and how it's going to go at some point. What do your thoughts on data centers and in particular

where they are? Well, and definitely more needs to be done to be able to have guardrails around

40 to 50 data centers in Maryland already. So this is not a new phenomenon. But the thing that we have seen though is that for the people that came before us, they were basically letting the data centers write their rules and determine where they wanted to be and how much energy they wanted to use and what type of impact they wanted to be environment. And it's like hold on you. Like we cannot do this. And you cannot write the rules. We have to be the one to write the rules and we

have to be the one to be able to work with local jurisdictions. And so, for example, what we did in the state of Maryland, I basically said for any of these platforms, even ones that were coming on board before I got here, I said there's a couple guidelines that I have on this. That one,

“you have to be able to bring your own energy and pay for any other, any other improvements that you”

had. You're not going to put that on the back of taxpayers in a way that was being done rapidly and randomly before. The second thing is you have to be able to hire local workers and you have to be able to, you know, edit, you know, work with local leaders and local community groups to be able to make sure that they want this in the first place, that I know there are certain jurisdictions that want data centers. And I get that. And I know there are certain jurisdictions that do not,

but you cannot force them to be able to accept this. If the local jurisdiction says we do not want that in our jurisdiction. And just because the local jurisdiction wants it, there's still need to be guidelines that the state has to check off on. And the third thing is we have to be able to make sure you're meeting environmental concerns. And they're environmental guidelines. And in Maryland we have high environmental guidelines on this. And it is important because we've got one

planet. And so let's just make sure we can do this stuff sustainably. I am very bullish on what I think

AI can bring to our society, where I think AI can be revolutionary when it comes to health care.

I think it would be revolutionary for public safety. I think the revolutionary for housing policies and permitting. So I am very bullish on what AI, what AI can do for us. But the answer can be then let's just move forward by all means necessary. There have to be guardrails and guidelines

“that are laid out that frankly historically before we're not being laid out. And so that's why”

I think we ended up in the problem that we find ourselves in now, where I believe strongly, that we've got to be able to move and act aggressively on this. You have a huge supporter in that man. Like if there's anything I can do to help with that message, you just call me and I'm there because thank you. I agree with you. Having an AI company in the insurance space, which is very regulated anyway, right? Like I think a lot of people miss the intelligence part of AI. Yes.

Right. They focus on the artificial or they're missing the actual intelligence piece. And to me,

and I know most people in entities have good, if not great, amazing intentions. But to your point,

the guardrails have to be there. And that starts with infrastructure, right? Like that starts with modeling, that starts with, you know, output algorithms, all the things that really matter, but let's not forget the intelligence. That's right. And to your point, we have to bring the public with us on this, because for a lot of people, and I understand why. I mean, if you talk to them

“about AI, they think like will smoke the movies? I think the thing that's going to take my job”

because there has not been a larger education in the public about it and what it means, what's going to be required, what are the benefits and what are the guardrails? And so I do think that it's both for government and it is for AI companies. There has to be a larger education that then can take place, so people don't feel like they're being host by what is happening with this,

you know, with this new technology, which is a very, very powerful technology. Again, one that I think

can have an absolute revolutionary impacts on education and healthcare, public safety, insurance, et cetera. But we got to do it smartly. We got to do it smartly. Yep, agreed. Governor Moore, again, you're amazing. All the things that you've done that you've accomplished, you are very quick to say that, you know, there's mentors that shape you. We don't do things alone. We do things together. And in this segment that I call the room,

right, I think back to your grandfather's story here in South Carolina and being run out all most in and he could have not come back, right, could have not come back. I love to talk about the room for you. Was there a, to become who you are? Yeah. Was there a room? Was there a meeting? Was there a conversation? Was there a dinner? Was there a moment that led you to say that this is going to be my path?

Well, was there a room a moment of conversation that you can remember? That's like,

“I'm going to go do that. You know, I, um, it's a great question. I, I think it actually many ways”

comes back to like my grandfather, um, who eventually became a minister and my grandmother was a school teacher, um, and my mom, who was a, you know, an immigrant single mom who raised three kids in her own, but they taught me something, um, that I think took a walk me to process, but it's something I believe in deeply and something that I know I share every time, particularly with students that I get a chance to be around and I tell them it's like, listen,

you're never in a room because of someone's kindness, or because of someone's benevolence,

or because someone is sprinkle diversity into the room or because of some social experiment. Like, you're in that room because the room was incomplete until you showed up.

“You're in that room because you belong there. And I think that was”

one of those moments where I felt like it wasn't even just about a room that I was in, it changed my framing for every room that I was in, that when I walk into rooms, I never walk in a room with my head down. I never walk in a room with my shoulders bent. I never walk in a room, you know, thank you. I'm so thankful to be here. No, no, no, no. The room was waiting for you.

Right. And that's the thing I want for everybody to understand and appreciate is that when we,

to take that as our mentality, you know, um, then there is nothing that will feel impossible because now you're just following God's will. Yes, sir. I love that, man. And I know that you also to your point of creating those rooms for others now. And then, right? And I see the work that doesn't get publicized because you don't want or need it publicized. But the things that you do in various communities, the mentees that you mentor, the people that you inspire move forward. Again,

I can't, I can't be remissing of that. I have to give you your flowers, man, because it's through those things that you do not in the public, which is hard for a public figure. But it's those things

that touch me and it's those things that when I talk about you, to my family, to my friends, to my

circle, those are the things that I point to. Right. Like, I don't think people understand your commitment to the youth of Maryland and the doors that you're opening there and the programs that you're building there and the books that you've authored that better blue prints for a lot of things, man. Like, I just, I want to appreciate you and thank you for the rooms that you're creating too. Wow. That's love, man. And I'm, I'm grateful for, for you and how you've done it. And I'm,

and I'm just, I'm grateful for, for this chance for us to be able to wrap because I have such a deep respect for you and how you use your platform and how you use your voice and for you to, for you to have me on, I'm, I'm serious, man. This is, this is a big deal for me. So thank you. It's a bigger deal for me, bigger deal for me. I'm not going to get emotional. I'm done. I'm going to get emotional. I'm going to get you out of here on my rapid fire, quick five.

I love it. I love it. All right. Number one. Elvis impersonator of the wedding. That's not even a question. That's just more of a statement. So I guess the question is how life he was okay with that. She was okay with it because I mean, listen, I told her I promised her my mom, my vials. I'm going to keep a fresh in sexy. And I said, listen, get married by Elvis.

“A badning fresh in sexy, huh? No, no, wait. It's that's what's up. That's what's up. All right. Number two,”

you're in New Yorker. You live in Maryland. So this is a lot to be tough. You're going with the slice, you're going with crab cakes. Oh, crab cakes. And that's something like I, I very much see myself as a, I'm, I'm a, I'm a Marylander who spent a good amount of my childhood in New York. Uh, and so, you know, listen, I, you're in New York. Whenever I, whenever I head up to New York, you know, you got to love the, you know, you got to love the slice with all the oil, the oil. This is dripping off

into into the paper plate. Um, but let me tell you something. If, if I had, if I had a chance, someone's like, listen, you got one bite. And whatever bite you want, you got one bite. I'm going Cocoa's crab cakes. Okay. Okay. All right. Now we'll spot some controversy. Uh-huh. In the household,

All right, because because you know why, too, is that she's actually a, she's actually a good cook,

“but she doesn't love it. Like I love it. Like I love it. Like I love it. Yeah, from the heart, right?”

I mean, like I, I am passionate about cooking. Like I have a, like it's a whole experience. So she'll tell you. I mean, she's, and she's, she's a good cook. Don't give me wrong. But she will tell you that I'm a chef. Oh, not just the cook, but the chef. Not chef. We graduated. Okay. All right. I got something. I'm going to make something happen. You know, celebrity chef Robert Irvine is like my best friend in the world. Oh, why don't make something happen. I'm going to read it. I'm going

to call him over down. Hey, now make something happen. All right. Most people don't know this. You were an illustrious white receiver college. You know, you talk about, you talk about

“service choosing you will football shows you, too. You didn't choose football. It shows you. So”

who is your favorite white receiver of all time? Oh, um, my favorite white receiver of all time. I mean, listen, it's, it's, it's tough not to go Jerry Rice. Um, I have a real sauce while my heart for Randy Moss. Um, because I just think Randy Moss would like there was nothing that anyone could do with Randy Moss at all. I mean, like he was just it was, I mean, again, when you've turned in, when your name is turned into a verb, right, like you got lost, right, like you just

really, you're on a metal level. The thing, the reason that I, that I say, I say Jerry is only for this

reason. Randy Moss was physically something that the NFL had never seen before, right, a wire

“receiver that was, you know, six, four, six, five, fast. I mean, just just throw the ball up. Um,”

that wasn't Jerry Rice. Right. Jerry Rice just ran the most beautiful routes where, you know, Jerry Rice would run a route that he would get no matter what type of route it was running. He was going to get five yards of separation on you. And that in the NFL is because you're talking about cornerbacks who were, you know, corner, but NFL cornerbacks that you're building five yards of separation on every single play, he just ran beautiful routes. And so I got to go. I got to go Jerry Rice.

Jerry Rice, it is. All right, last one, as your story continues to be told that book continues to be written. What's one word you want to make sure is in there that defines you? Um, compassionate. I love it. I love it. Bro, this means the world to me. I'm truly honored, man, truly honored. Everybody, this, this watching or listening, uh, I've got a clip to that 4th of July speech that I'm referencing. I need everybody to do me a favor and watch it. Um, I need you to save it.

I need you to continue to come back to it because that is the speed like we haven't had a lot of those in our lifetime. Uh, the oven and more when I tell you, that's the one for me in my lifetime. That's the one. I mean my kids who are in their 20s, they're already talking about it. And that touches me to as a parent to have something that's so monumental that your kids talk about. I don't think I'm not going to say I don't think I need you to understand the breath of that

bro. I really do. Wow. That means the world company you, man. I'm serious. Keep leading. Keep leading. I'm serious. Absolutely. Absolutely. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been Governor Westmore just following him, research him, befriend him. If you're in the state of Maryland, you have these are the words of making the calling. You have the greatest leader, uh, again, if it didn't get as cold, I would move there. I'll move there. I'll move there. I'll go

shady some about that. It's only few months in a year, though. It's only few months in a year.

But it's still a few of them, though. It's only a few of them. It is always to the viewers on

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