Present & Purpose: Finding Balance with Jason Heyward

Jason Hayward is one of my favorite baseball players of all time. He grew up in Atlanta, which was like a couple hours from where I grew up.

Always been one of my favorite players.

All the accolades in baseball he's won, but this conversation isn't at this conversation. It's about the father he is. The president said he has what he's doing in the community. Lessons that he's learned and just just hearing his story his way is awesome. We're going to wrap it up at the end.

And you're going to hear who his goat of baseball is and it might surprise you, maybe it won't. And we'll talk about his favorite baseball stadium and his favorite pre-game mill as well. But this is a lesson for leaders to learn about presence, to learn about dedication, to learn about how to really connect with people, to connect to your community. So without further ado, this is my guy, Jay Hay himself, Jay Hay.

You're listening to Mick Unplug, hosted by the one and only Mick Hunt. This is where purpose meets power and story-spark transformation. Mick takes you beyond the motivation and into meaning. Helping you discover your because and becoming unstoppable. I'm Rudy Rush and trust me, you're in the right place.

Let's get Unplugd. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Mick Unplugd and today, I'm city here with one of my baseball goats. I'm talking about a man who is a multiple goat gold glove winner, a world series champion, and just an overall great human being.

His impact it sends beyond the baseball field, his buyer's millions, with his dedication and profound insights and the teamwork and personal growth. Please join me in welcoming the exceptional, the influential, the incomparable Jay Hay.

“Jason, hey, Jason, how are you doing today, brother?”

Great, Nick, I appreciate you, man. I really appreciate that intro.

You know, it's always humbling to hear what others feel about you, what they feel,

or your impact you might have made on them, and then the title is so, man, I appreciate you having me on the day. Bro, I'm the honor one. Like I said, I'll follow your career forever. I grew up in Greenville, South Carolina, just outside of Greenville, South Carolina.

So when we hear superstars, man, and I know it wasn't just baseball, but I like to tell people you were a prodigy, man. Like, you were a young, doing big things, and a lot of people don't realize how young you were when you actually got drafted, man, to be drafted at 17 and to move up the ranks, and I want to talk through a lot of that.

But I love asking my guests what's there be cause? They're deep purpose into doing the things that you do. And I know you do a ton off the field. We're just talking about family before we press record, man.

“Like today, why does Jason Hayward continue to do what he does?”

They, I appreciate that question because to your point, getting drafted at 17 years old out of high school, getting it to college, man, signing to go to school with UCLA, baseball, and education solved a lot of my intent and my why. No, shoot as high as possible.

See where they fall for my best foot forward. And today, at 30, six years old, 16 years later, majorly career wise. Now having three kids being married, I'm talking to my kids. So that's that's Danny who was lobbying my wife being from out to negro. So like, for me, it helps me to say my purpose to them be someone who was dedicated to his craft,

whether that's baseball, whether that's baseball academy in North Austin, just outside of Chicago. And then like being the best version of myself fitness wise. Like just maintaining a routine to be able to get home after workouts like I'm doing today. And then jump all of a then where that's getting them in the pool, whether that's workout would messy if he wants to kind of practice some baseball golf before he goes into his

lesson. So I just think it's, it's very important to be an influence. You know, I was one of the very fortunate people to grow up in a household with both parents. My brother, Jake Rennai, my parents being Ivy League grads. My dad going to engineering school, playing basketball at Dartmouth, which is where my parents met. So I just want to one day be that conversation that when someone asks my kids, like, hey,

like, what are one of the big influences for you? And that can be right there in the household, as they're taught, so I have their dad and V&I and John being their parents.

And that's amazing. And to me, that defines who you are. And I'm going to say,

“I'm going to say a word that I think is going to resonate because what you don't know, Jason,”

I didn't want to tell you this before. But I've seen you play probably 15 times because when I say you're one of my goats, one of my favorites. It's obviously what you do in the field, but the first couple of times I got to go to a game that you played. I got to see how you interacted with your teammates, how they looked at you, the managers, the coaches and the fans. And then I got to learn more about your story. You talked about your parents and family of what they mean to you.

I think you work incredibly hard to be present for the people that matter to you,

“for the people that look up to you. And that's what drew me to really calling you one of my favorites.”

Like, again, what you do on the field is amazing. That's second to none. Those stats can

can speak for themselves. But when people watch Jason, hey, we're in Iraq, when you go to an academy or you go to an event venue and you see Jason, hey, what him, just how he interacts with people and how you're present. And I'm like, I think that he's your superpower. Well, appreciate that. I really appreciate that. For anyone watching listening that doesn't know what I want to give him perspectives, you see me play in person 15 times.

That's a lot. Even over a 16 year career. For somebody to be able to see someone one time, you did lucky, right, growing up as a baseball fan. So the fact that you've seen me 15 times, I appreciate you. You don't show it up in panic tension that way. But, um, no, I think

present is is a great way to put it. And I think I've always done my best to do that. But winning

on the baseball on the playing side has been a big part of that, right? I've been on winning teams my whole life. So just understanding the value of being present with my teammates, all the people you mentioned, coaching staff, even fans, as you get to the professional level, just not taking it for granted. And so just I've done my best to enjoy the ride and enjoy the friendships and enjoy the camaraderies, the ups, downs, which are part of life. So yeah, being present is

well, I've done my best to do. But I also want to give like this insight on from 20 years old, making my debut to now, 36 years old. I was introduced to this game into the business world, into the real world very quickly. And so I had to let continue to learn who I could be present for,

“right? Like how many things I can give away of my energy and in my space, because you have to do”

the best to be the best version of yourself. While also, when it's most important, like,

give what you can give to those who are most important to you. So that's, that's for something fun and very important along along. And that leads to a question I want to ask you because, again, I've got to see you in person many times and just how you do that and then knowing that, you know, your children mean the world to your life and all your family mean the world to you. How do you balance that? Because I know there are a lot of people that are watching and that are listening,

that are like, yeah, I own businesses or I'm a leader within my community and I always have a lot of touch points, right? And you get that. You have a lot of touch points. How do you balance and prioritize your presence? Much like baseball, you have to be real, real about imperfection, like that's a part of life. And so understanding every situation, especially stepping outside of baseball into the business world, into the nonprofit world, into the inner city communities,

and really saying like, everyone operates different. The structure is not the same. And so that being said, just doing my best to put my best for a forward, like take the small victories, do my best to getting our couple and realizing, hey, I made it to reach out to this person more.

“Well, I'm going to need to go agree with these people differently versus sometimes you need to”

sit back and let other people speak and let other people grow. So I think just the more situations that I can put myself into, that I put myself into over time where I'm like, okay, this, just wanting to look at differently. This one I realized today, what I did well, what I could probably improve on. And then also just, this was just something new. And on the way to get an understanding of and perspective, or something is just keep showing up, keep taking that different phone call,

keep taking that different meeting. When someone asked, hey, do you want to do something? I remember like at 20, 25, I was kind of saying, no, I'm just going to stick to like, do my best to get my foot down and go making a goal go play and right field, right, which is great. I've been compensated, compensated very well for that over time, but that's not the end all, be all. And so when you ask about the balance, I think it's getting comfortable with the chaos,

which which like throws us. There's always going to be something new, always going to be something different. And lastly, just have your anchor. Like, what are your, like, must have to start your day? What's your process that you want to have where there's wake up and have in that cup of coffee, where there's having that, that banana vitamins, that stretch that work out, maybe you're reading something like whatever it looks like to the individual. I think you have

your anchor and your structure and then you're able to be able to deviate from there and just flow with life. Man, that last part, we have so much in common because I teach individuals and corporate leaders that is identifying your moustaches. Like, I start every single morning with my list of three moustaches, whether the three things that are not negotiable today. And it should be different every day, right? Because I learned from the day before or what my priorities are going to be for that day,

but we have that in common, man. And I don't think people understand how important that really is

everybody should at least have one non-negotiable every day that they're working on. What do you think about that? I love that. And then for me, it's when you say they fluctuate, like they may change the day before you might have taken something out. Like tomorrow, I want to look at this and get caught up to speak it on this or if I don't know something, maybe I need to do some research or if I have a question, right? Or you may need to get back to someone. So I really appreciate

how having three non-negotiables, it leaves picking one at a minimum, just what can you do to get yourself better to start today? Right? Like, I think that's a nice way to look at it. And then

“to kind of give people, I don't want to say end result because life is, you know, it's not for”

everybody. You know, as long as we're living it, you keep living and it always changes just to get

people like the result of it. So to speak it, that's how you build your company. People ask, "Oh, how do you feel so comfortable doing this? Or how do you become so present?" Well, there's a lot of stuff that I don't know and I will never know. But the more that we put in our basket as an individual, the more we say, "Oh, today I want to do this and I'm not going to let anything stop me from learning this." So I'm not going to let anything stop me from figuring this out.

I think the more comfort we build and there's one day at a time. One of the other things that I know you do really well off the field because it shows on the field is decision-making. Right? Like, you don't win defensive player the year. You don't win multiple gold gloves without decision-making. Like, a lot of people may just look and see, "Yeah, you're out in the field. You see the ball.

“You go up onto the ball." But there's a lot of that goes into that strategy. I want to go early on”

and talk about decision-making because you had a big win at 17's. Like, go to UCLA or do I take

this offer and talk us through that and how you learn decision-making and then ultimately how you

made the decision to take the brave's offer? Well, just being real, I feel like I was empowered by my parents. They allowed me to feel like I had support in every day or not every day. But they would like my parents being the college athlete, my mom being well educated. They would just make sure, "Hey, like, you want to keep playing baseball?" I'm like, "Yes, you want to keep going to this workouts?" Yes, you want to keep going in showcases. Absolutely. Then I had a decision to make

getting the high school, my parents was like, "You can play basketball this winter or you can do showcases for baseball. You're not going to do both. That's going to be a lot. I'm being real on like what I mean is work." But two truths, I go, "I think I'm going to do these baseball showcases." And my mom and I basketball, I have to play and pee. Right? I'll get my fixed there. But I want to continue seeing what I can do to be the next biography junior, to be in Atlanta brave, to be a

“New York Yankee, Derek Juter. That's what I was curious about. That was my non-negotiable”

with the time growing. And so then getting to my senior year, my popz asked me again one more time as he's taking me to like a workout and he's tired, but from my hammering county. He's a hey man, like you see, you want to keep doing this? And I gave him a look, I was in Berlin. You had to stop asking me that, because I'm like, "We're here now." If you're thinking about turning around, I said, "Let me out because I'm about to figure my figure out how I can get up there."

He's a non-disaskin' man. I'm just asking. But coming up to that decision with Atlanta, with the draft, again, education with a big driver for me. Baseball was a big reason why I wanted to get my education to be able to continue progress, be able to continue moving forward. Getting it to UCLA, my great uncle, came to Washington, played for John Wooden there. Like a basketball for UCLA, came out the bench. All the things beat Duke in an international title. That was my reason for

being able to get over to UCLA and explore them. I'm out of the South. You know the South, me, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, everything closed by. For me to get West, I had to have another reason, and that was fun. And so that was a nice way for me to see the world, see you hate. This is not just the South. See Beverly Hills, see California, see Pasadena, see the Rolls bowl, get that experience, get those vibes. And so I had other things the fact

around with my decision, which helped me out a lot. The fact that all American game was in San Diego, so I also got to see West Coast again and see baseball out there and see the presentation in the way it was done, progressing to that next level. And what I was hoping to be a hydractic. And

that was always my mentality. See how high it can be drafted. See where things fall. But you have

good goals. You can be no one overall. And then work with that mentality and in the fall where it's supposed to fall and coming down to it, Atlanta being the 14th pick on draft day. And my mind, I'm like, well, I hear them. They say they're going to take me. There's also a few other teams just say they're going to take me before them. There's something that is saying they're going to take me after them all in the first round. But I'm like, you know what, I don't believe in until I see it.

Now is my time to make this decision. My parents again say, no, it's your choice.

“It was my own boy, my great uncle in my ear. Can you watch me say, hey, I think you should go to UCLA.”

I think it's a great network for you. I think it's a great way to grow. You'll have that after sports, respectfully. I've driven up and down the highway. I've passed Turner Field, been to some baseball games, been to some playoff games at Atlanta. Watch, praising Yankees in the 90s. Those are those are my two teams. I'm all being from New York. That being from South Carolina.

I was growing up in Georgia. So I'm like, no, if I if I've come this far, being drafted in the first

round, with things as they are in the Atlanta Braids organization, I think, I think I'm doing myself with the service for all this time. I put into to go to college, right? Because then what are we shooting for after that after being drafted 14 overall? So that went into my decision. The opportunity to get education after was also in my mind. That was something that I had to fall back on if I wanted to. But still to this day, that mentality has been, if I need to go back to school, I will.

If there's something that's going to lock me or be, be a variable that I just, that's a non-agosurable I'll figure that out. But I put a lot of time and two, my parents put a lot of time and two, physically, mentally, losing sleep financially for me to be in a position that we drafted in the first round. And I said, no, let's, let's go do this and let's start this process and see what it took for. I love it, man. I love it. And we have this in common, too. I was not a baseball

first round draft pick, but UCLA was actually my first love. I'll be on the tar hill and I'm a tar hill through and through. When I'm to select college, I actually want it to go to UCLA. I've been a tar hill in a Jordan Bulldog my whole life, but I want to go to UCLA. Anybody that's 16, 17 that goes out to the campus, you know why I wanted to go to UCLA, but with my parents being

from South Carolina, it was like, they were never going to see me. And so I was like North Carolina,

“it is. But yeah, that campus is beautiful. I'll do that. Beautiful campus, like a mile long, right?”

You can see the whole thing from from both ends. And then then it's like a two-year point, it's a melting pot right of people who obviously want to progress, but also don't mind being in that lake. So come on from the south. You see that. You're like, all right, man. Well, if I can go to school here and get better and learn something on the way and then still have this in that work, that's great. But I feel like, I mean, as you know, and as a lot of people know, our hills and bulldogs,

you also have some very strong alums and cultures there and both of those universities. Absolutely, absolutely. You know, I could talk about your career all day Jason, but I think your career speaks for itself. I want to talk to you about the things that people don't see, and the academies, the things that you do in the community, the passions that you have on the field, but also feel talk to us about your academies, the foundations that you have that

that you're doing in the community first and foremost. Well, just to have a baseball all the

academy came about the idea in 2020 on name by the name of Donita Travis who's the head of non-the non-profit by the hand club, and it's we can say whatever, free plug for them, this and that, but I just, it's undeniable for me for the work they've done in inner cities with education, and when they say by the hand, they literally from pre-K elementary, middle, high school, college, into their profession, they make sure that the individuals, families are loved and given

a lot of exposure and taken care. So that being said, 2020 was the first time the world stopped and unison, you know, in a long time, but the sports world, right? That was, I feel like was one of

“the few times where we all said, we don't have anything to do, so what can we do at our time?”

And some Chicago athletes got together, Sam Ocho, Mr. Biski, two former bears, reached out and said, there he go. See, it's a small world, it's a small world, especially in that Southland, especially in that Southland. But they reached out and said, they were going over to the West Side of Chicago, going to the neighborhood in Austin, and they were going to be a part of healing circles, addressing the social injustices at the time, addressing the struggles

that families were going through with COVID. Everyone was dealing with it, but then in neighborhoods like this, we all understand that people live at the heart. I'm talking about communities, Sam is from Nigeria, and we get on a bus with some of the kids deliver that neighborhood and we roll through and Sam's like, wow, this looks like back home as an African Nigeria. It looked like his village. I was so many places being boarded up, and I just feel like I have to share

and give a context for what I was shown and what I kind of live with them for a brief moment.

we play our games, we go home to our families. This was real light for them. And so I wanted to be

“a part of this sport campus, this dream, this facility, 52,000 square foot, and North Austin,”

and I wonder represent them as the baseball side. We have basketball, we have soccer, we have e-gamming, course by the hand, is there with the education side, and there's nutrition, but in my mind, for sure, no baseball, I've been a part of some inner city endeavors coming out of Atlanta, lead to legacy there there, CJ and Kelly Stewart, they've done outstanding job starting the 2007 when I got drafted, so I was able to like see that, see the time it took to put into

that, but also I was playing baseball. But I felt like this is my opportunity to get back and

incentive through sport, get back, and having a place to go as a community, because when you

ride through these duties communities, Mick is they call them food deserts, right? Where you see more liquor stores, 22 at the time, then you see grocery, then you see healthy foods, then you even see for like the community come together, like our group Southern Baptist, that was kind of my community away from sport, and things like that, right? You don't see much of that here in these neighborhoods, so the intentional sports facility, Jason Hayward baseball academy,

at the school program for about 40 kids a week, at the school wise, just off of that, for them to be able to come and say, I have something to do, I have teammates I can look forward to, I have a name in Jason Hayward that is taking in Chicago as this is on and being a resident, of course, being a part of a 2016 team and winning a world championship, but that was the beginning of my introduction to living in Chicago, and same what an impact, what I see is, I understand people

will say it's a big impact, but what I see is it's a very small impact in a city that is very

“hungry to put as best for forward in that space, that's how I got started, that's how I got introduced”

to North Austin, the community we're in, where the baseball academy in facility is, and I have to say being a real, it's when you don't know the space of my profit world, when sports are your endeavor, and that's how you gain your platform, it feels like a lot of risk taken, right, where you're not sure how to go about it, and I think one of the phrases we use is like building the plan while it's in there, you know, and that's kind of a constable, here we are three years in,

we feel like we are now, I don't want to say starting over, but we're starting from the new beginning, and we have our facility, we have our programs, we have our events, we have our student athletes that come in and want to see us, we have our families, but now we have more, and a good way, we have more opportunities like dead rows has come through, into the race has come through,

“you talk about the colleges and universities that come through and want to have their soft ball”

practices, basketball practices, hosting events, and so now we are repositioning ourselves to take on what's next as we grow, and so that's where we are, that's kind of like why I wanted to get into it because I understood what it was to have education and sport as an incentive to give me somewhere to go, other than making another tough decision, I was fortunate enough not to have to make very tough ones myself, but I had teammates, I had vet best friends, I watched

their families, these kids, and Austin have, I would say, less, like good decisions to make so to speak, or less places to congregate, that they can feel safe and trust, and it's been really really nice to take and start this journey with this community and say, I want to be an option, I want to give you an option to go and feel safe, so that's, that's J's V8, and here we are going on year four, stranoff this spring. Amazing brother, how can people that are watching or listening

support the non-profit? They can donate, of course, I feel like people always say, oh, we'll

don't ask too much for money or don't ask too much for people to donate time, they can donate time, they can go to intentional sports, that's the Instagram for the overall facility, Jason Hayward Baseball Academy is my Instagram for J's V8, but there's a link in both of those handles that will show you the events going on, the programs going on, showing where we're headed and where we like to go, showing what we've done, showing how crime rate has gone down in the surrounding

area and made an impact, and then of course, donating the time, donating money, they're also links to do that as well and when I say this, any little thing is awesome, whatever someone feels like they can give is awesome because it's going directly to kids, it's going directly to families, what I'm in there training in the offseason and lifting, hitting, seeing like mothers and odds and uncles come through some days just to walk the track, just to walk around the turf for me,

somewhere safe, somewhere reliable and so lastly, saying kids come through and have their field days.

I remember field day growing up, even my senior year in high school was supposed to have a senior trip and have a county and they're like, "You know what, we're just going to have a field." And was supposed to go to Disney World, but they're like, "No, I would just go walk across the street and we're going to go this, go to our football stadium and you guys are going to have a day of water balloons this and that." Well, saying this facility when I show up every day to work out,

saying the people that come through D-Rose and so on, it feels like United Center vibes. It's not the United Center, Michael Jordan didn't play there, right? But for this community,

“I think that's what's special about it, it's something to take pride in and it's also a hope for”

a new level of progress. So that's how people can get involved, but I just have to share the story, I have to share the vibe because every time I walk in and leave, I get chills about being humble to one be able to use this space to work out to my family can come and go and see, hey, like, this is what we're doing, this is our contribution and then just the kids and the families man, I just want to continue to get better and sharpen that for them. I love it. I'm going to make sure

that we have links everywhere to support the facility and your academy. If you're watching, if you're listening, I don't ask for a lot of favors, but I'm going to ask this time. If you can donate financially, please do, if you live locally, if you're a leader, if you're a speaker, and you're going to be in the Chicago area, I don't need some time. All things matter. All things

matter because you never know who you're going to touch, you're going to inspire. And I'm proof

“of that just by going to things when I was a kid, you never know the lesson that you're going to”

give someone or a small thing that matters and for Jason and for everybody that's a part of the academy, that's a part of the facility, it takes a village. And so all the support I can promise you, they're going to appreciate and there's nothing that's too small, probably. Even if you can just be somewhere for 20 minutes, you never know what that 20 minutes means to Jason and the staff there, man. So Jason, I'm going to do my part to help push and promote and we'll talk online,

but when I'm in the area, I'm going to go donate financially and also some time to them. Appreciate it. That's huge. Thank you for bringing it up. Thank you for asking me about the facility, the academy, and also thanks for showing us love, man. We appreciate anyone who wants to come by come through and we'll do our best to make it feel very welcome. Yes, sir. All right, Jason, I know your time is valuable. I'm going to get you out of here with my top five rapid fire.

“That's great. All right, who is your goat athlete growing up?”

Hey, my goat athlete. I had two favorite players in baseball. My goat athlete, very jitter. After another Yankees, coming in his rookie year, his first winning a world series, even though it was against my braves, but just the way he handled it, the rest of the way.

No, it's not going to be perfect. It's not going to always be pretty. He dealt with New York

media. And then the more over time I learned about the sport, the more I learned about the tradition, the Yankees, and that expectation is solidified it for me. And fortunately, I've been able to meet Gene and play against him competing against him. Follow his life a little bit after after baseball. And so for me, he's kind of like the Kobe of a baseball for me, because I'm more born in 89. And Jay started a little bit sooner than then when I was born, so I didn't get

to follow the same way I was able to follow Kobe. So dare jitter for me is my goat athlete. I love jitter as a human being, but I'm a red sock in a brave. So if he had been a red sock, he would be my great wife. I understood. When you got to get motivated, when you got to get pumped up, what song is in your ear? What's in your ear, but I'm going to say right now, it is all one tonight. My gun. I'm one in night by gunna, because this album, I feel like it was him having to

address a lot of the tough times that he's gone through, you know, legally, right? But I feel like especially from the south, I'm sure you can testify on this, but I feel like you don't see as many artists come out of it as well as he has. Even with dealing with the young thugs, stuff, it's, I know we're all torn and we want to see great music, great music. We want to see these guys fellowship and grind together, but for me, all one of the night is the testament to his like,

man, you know what? Like, I've been politically correct. I've said my apologies. I've, you know, taking some things on the chin, but right now, I'm all one of the night and I gotta, I gotta go do my thing and I gotta be, I gotta be surgery. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I love it. What is been your favorite ballpark to play in, either in a home or a way? There's going to be more for me, more votes for

years as a visitor for one, a lot, a lot of first there, like first grand slam there, first two

“home or game there, I think like first, like four-hit game there, something like that, five-hit game”

there. A lot of cool first, but then just what Ridley is and itself being able to experience the old clubhouse on the visiting side, walking down the turns as you get closer to the field, the more you smell the grass, the more you smell the history, the amount of former baseball players and people and politicians that have set foot in this cathedral on the north side of Chicago for me was super special to feel and then like, once you zoom out, then you get late Michigan, then you get late

sure, then you get the Chicago vibes, you get Ridley bail, you get the rest of downtown,

you get the fireworks from Wednesday, every Wednesday Saturday, from tomorrow, they're the Labor Day, you get the air and water show, so for me as a whole Ridley field itself, just

“they do baseball, that's what Ridley does, it does baseball, it does it in, in the neighborhood,”

the neighborhood opens up, people go to their jobs, the players, the fans come in, and operate, play the one twenty-day game, the game ends, and then everyone goes back and joins Chicago as it was, so for me that's that that's my easy Ridley field, is it? Easy enough, easy enough, what is your favorite ballpark food? So it's French toast, we're talking ballpark foods, yeah, when I enter that I'm really obviously thought of the player.

Gotcha, yeah, breakfast food, it's a French toast bacon, scrambled eggs with spinach, pancakes, maybe maybe there's some like blueberries and them bacon, scrambled eggs, spinach, fruit before the game, that's that's my vibe on getting to the field and having a good meal before we go tackle that day game. I love it, I love it, I'm gonna get you out of here on this one, as the story of Jay Hay continues to to evolve, what's one word you wanted that story?

I'm word, nice story as you can, ten years to evolve, yeah, I'm thinking about being a dad, I'm thinking about business, I'm thinking about my profit, I'm thinking about professional, what is something to tell all this together? I don't want to say surprising, I don't want to say, I think I will go with, we'll go with dedicated, I want to say dedicated. That's where I'll leave it because that's, in order to be where I would like to continue to go, continue progressing in every

“aspect of my life, it's dedicated and I think that's what's gonna have to be the constant.”

That is you, I can see that man, I can see that. Jayson, brother, you mean more than you'll ever know to me, I can't wait to see what happens in 26 for you, no matter what you do, where you go, how you do it, I'm there with you man, so like, you know, everybody says they have a number one fan of, well, that's me for you, bro. So whatever you're doing, I'm there with you man. You gotta appreciate the love, man, and I appreciate the hospitality,

I appreciate your being genuine, writing, and shooting me straight, I know you will, and if you ever see anything with you for like, oh, no, Jay, you could have did this different. Now that we've performed, we met via the podcast, let me know, let me know, man, would love to trade stories, love to trade ideas, so I am sharpening our, I mean, I appreciate you just been on to be on. I appreciate you too. I appreciate you too, and for all the viewers

and listeners, remember, you're because it's your superpower. Go unleash it.

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