Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another exciting episode of McUnplug it...
We're diving deep with the true Titan of Transformation.
“He's a visionary who's impact spans elite performers in entrepreneur excellence.”
He's forged an empire out of discipline and dedication. Inspiring countless individuals like myself to unlock their true ultimate potential. Please join me in welcoming the relentless, the inspiring. But when and only the boss man, right, boss ever. This is McUnplug.
Let us uncover the becaughts that thing that drives you, that thing that fuels you. I'm ready if you are. Let's go. Brother, how are you doing, man? Man, thank you for having me on, man. I'm great, man. I appreciate you having me on. This is a, and you just said, it's a true blessing
to be able to share space within the visuals that are pushing great conversations and thoughtful mindset to be able to share what I've been able to do and overcome and to hope inspires someone else who doesn't know me or gives someone a deeper dive into who I am, beyond what you may see the crazy antics between myself and, you know, like you just said, okay, this morning, but some of the things that we do, some of the things that I, the way I look at this, this life, and I'm excited to be here,
man. So thank you for having me on, congratulations to all your success and excited for this 30 minutes. Man, I'm the honor one, bro. I've been a huge fan of you forever.
When, when I first learned about your story a few years ago, I was like, man, this is like,
this is the guy and it touched me so much. I don't even like calling it an underdog story.
“And I hate when people refer to some of their stories as underdogs, man, because I think all of us”
have something no matter what success looks like today, all of us had a path to get there. And so again, I don't look at it as an underdog, because all of us have things stacked against us. But I love raw man for you to talk through what I call your be cause, that thing that's deeper than your why, right? Like, there's a purpose, there's a mission that you have. And a lot of times it changes as we mature and start doing other things and you do a thousand things great.
But what's your be cause? Why do you keep doing the things that you do, boss? Man, I just want to continue to prove myself, right? You know, you know, betting on yourself, it sounds crazy, but like, there's that self-doubt. And when you have self-doubt every day, you gotta get up and beat the block to your feet, hurt the pavement even if you don't know what direction you're going. So I'm trying to prove myself, right? And the belief that I could do more
than what people, what the surroundings offered me. And, you know, my mom, as well, you know, kind of touched on this. My mom passed away when I was 10, 11, 11 years old. And that's my because, right, like, you know, rather than using that as this victim thing, I use it as a power thing.
And, you know, having people say, you, you know, it's gonna be hard for them to never mind boys,
you know, because my mom had nine kids. You gotta figure out which one's gonna come out. And we've been blessed that, you know, my mom has produced some amazing individuals and I just myself, but across the board, my brothers and sisters. And so, I think she was the pillar of that. She said, I gave you each other. And that goes to my because. And then, to what you said, it shifts, now that I, you know, have three young boys and married it, it's deep in the, the cause of
and the because, it's the legacy of, because it's not about me. It's really about who I can show up to be the best self that I can be all my fault, all the things that can allow them to be their best self, because they're gonna have their, their, their thing too, but kind of give them
“the right path, the best way I can with everything that I've learned. And so, that's the”
cause for me, man. I think it shifts, but the anchor is, you know, where I come from, proving myself right in my mind. I love it, man. I love it. And I heard you say something, God, it's probably six months ago, and I get asked this question a lot too, and your response was brilliant. Like, people ask me a lot, Nick, did you see this version of you, like when you were growing up or when did that version click? And I tell people all the time, like,
I don't see tomorrow's version of myself yet, because I'm still thinking everything that I do to be present today. And like, I heard you say something along those same lines, man. So like,
I'd love for you to just break that down.
who you're gonna be for your children, the legacy that you're building. Like, why is that so important
for you to always be present in the moments better today? Yeah. It's really the always learning aspect.
“I think that's really what it becomes. And you couldn't, I couldn't write in the book what I have”
accomplished. I couldn't write on a piece of paper or go. And so, who did I, you know, you asked people ask that question that you know, this is where you would be, and I'll say no, because I just knew that I was trying to make a believer at every step of the way of my journey. And whatever came, I knew that the rest that I was putting in, I was going to be ready for it. That was either emotional, that was either financial, that was either leadership, whatever that was. And you don't know
how that's going to show up. And it's really the principles and the practice, right? It's it boils down to principles and practice to me. And I had to have strong foundational principles. And I had to make sure I was at practice, right? That practice was what you were thinking about, what you were doing and how you were leaning in. And those things allow me to step in the things
“that I had never saw for myself. So that's what you, as uniquely so different, because I'm a venture”
capitalist. Like, ah, we have a fun, you know, who would have thought that, you know, I'm, you know, I'm on boards of companies. And I couldn't have thought that I thought I was going to be a football player. And, you know, I was going to inspire kids to go do that. And so every day is uniquely different. And so
I don't have a deficit. Like, I don't, I didn't know this would be that thing. So I'm always learning.
And I think I like to talk to people from what I've learned perspective of position versus what I know. A lot of people want to say, here's what I know. There's a few things we know. But most of the things that I like to speak from is what I've learned because when you learning, you're experiencing and it's, it's a journey because being open to what's next. And so that's what's been so fun. And I hope that answered what you, the question you're asking, right? Because I want to be slower
in my thoughts. I want to be, but, but also very still moving, I'm moving fast to get things done. But slowing down and having tension, so that the presence of who I'm becoming, I'm also experiencing as well because before that wasn't there. And so there's an evolution of growth in those moments, too. And I'm on that journey every day. I'm on the journey of how to be a better husband. I'm on the journey of how to be a better dad. I'm on the journey of how to be a better friend of the
partner. It's every evolving and it's who you surround yourself around that you say, oh, I did that wrong. I'm doing that right. And I think that's the beautiful part that's so to the amazing question
because I think so many people want to have the answer, but the answer is ever evolving.
Yep. Yep. You're so on point, man. And something that I learned from you, I call it like the four peas and you don't call it this, but this is what I learn from you and you can have it because this is you, or write this down. You say in your own way and you were just talking about it just now that practice and preparation, right? And I don't even just mean the physical aspect, even for me it was the mental. Practice and preparation is going to tell you your performance, which then
equals your potential. Yep. And I got that from you and how you've always operated and maneuvered and I will say the greatest and the greatest at whatever it is, whether it's performance, whether it's leaders in my world, they are always over-prepared. Because situations you're always going to fall back to your preparation, right? There's no such thing as rising to the occasion. You're always going to fall back to your preparation. And if you practice, right? Like, doctors and lawyers call it
their practice because they're continuing to put the things they're learning and to play, then that's going to yield your performance. And if you've prepared, and if you practice,
“you should have a good performance and that performance then becomes your potential. And again,”
I learned that from you and watching how you move and all the things that you do. I mean, not just the training and we'll get there, but when we talk about you being on boards of companies, you being a mentor to people, you being an advisor to people. To me, it all falls back to that that journey for you with practice, the being prepared. That's going to be your performance and then that yield your potential. Absolutely, man. I'm taking it. I receive that. Thank you for sharing.
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“So talk to us about why all of that is so critically important for you. Not just in the physical”
things that you do, but also the advisory you do, the mentorship that you also do as well. Why is all that important? Presence and intentionality. There's a delay. I'm not sure. I'm seeing your lips move when I'm talking so I'm not trying to. But the presence and intention. I want to be, I'm learning that when I'm leaning in, I need to be present and it has to be driven from pure intention. And that's really where the risk is leaning in on a company. It's insight. It's
experience. It's the things that I've had access to. And I'm learning to be, the intentions always
there. Like the presence is where I've gotten in this journey where things have kind of gotten. I'm thinking about one thing trying to do another one. I'm trying to lay up another one.
“I love bringing my world together. Because I believe the rising tide is all shifts. We believe”
that. And I know for me, the learning of me is, I don't want to say, I live in a place where I love to compete to a belief. I don't compete to destroy it. So when I'm speaking or if I'm on a board or if I'm mentoring someone, I want to be very competitively. I want that mindset to resonate, rather, it's within the company and the board. It creates because I understand competition creates culture. When you have a strong culture, you have something good. Because
it's hard to break up culture in community. And so for me, that's where I, when I lean in,
rather it be young trainers, or young founders, I'm always talking about what's the culture of
the company, what's the culture of who you want to become, what new people, what do you want people
“to know you ask? And if we have a product, are we going to position our product? And how is that”
going to stay? And we can put any face on a product, rather it's my relationships that I know I can call most people. But if the product is in good, product also being yourself, then it won't work. It won't work. So, rather it's you or a physical product, it's not going to work. And so from from how I like to lean in, making sure that the intentions there while building the all the other things around it, it's how I like to lean. And it's also like why I've been able
to be in this position, because I get to show up with so much authenticity to what I experience and what I've learned. And being able to share what I've learned helped up in coming founders. I get to be a part of this company called C4 Nutribo. I've been with 10 years. I've been a part of know, just jumping into it, just kind of a little segue to like I was offered more money, stay with the company. Company, I have equity in a company, company goes, curing Dr. Pepper comes in,
well, and there's a $3 billion valuation. I've helped out a bunch of athletes along that journey.
Well, when I'm talking to my up and coming founders or I'm leaning in, it's the number one thing to stay consistent, keep the main thing, the main thing. Are you driving? Are you helping beyond your title? Are you doing things beyond what they've asked you to do? And so that's the way I like to lean in with those levels of intention. I love that so much, because that shows me your character, because it'd be real easy to fall back to success. It'd be real easy to say,
you know what? I do this one thing and I'm gonna do it, but you take calculated risk in all the things that you do. Talk to us a little bit about that, like just the different ventures that you're in and in the risk that are associated with that, like in a good way, in a good risk. Yeah, you know, even a bad one's like, we can talk about them all. I'm like, I'll tell you what
Happened to me early on when I first started traveling.
young man with a old soul and I would always seek knowledge. And so I found myself hanging around
a lot of older men and individuals in general that were just sharing knowledge with me. People that had built successful businesses and I didn't even know what I wanted from them. I was no transactions had, I was just listening. And today, one of the guys that I can give credit to, I had a lot of
“great mentors. My brother's being part of that. But I'll never forget, I was trying to learn”
about the stock market in investing and the key thing that he said to me, he said, "Understanding everything that you're gonna invest in is an art, not a science." And if you can drive that, then you can, if you can lean in on that and understand that you like it. If you have influence behind it and you can lean in with your expertise, you can turn it into something good. But remember, when people come to you with the science of it all, go back to the art of it all. And the art of
it all creates the fun of it all. And that's the thing that I get to do and lean in on companies and taking one thing from the other, the good, the bad and ugly. So the things that I've experienced really bad at, you know, running gems are investing in a company or a founder that I thought was gonna, you, those are the things that start. Like, it's not gonna all go good. And the part of the
“things that go bad aren't really bad. Those are the things that you need to experience. So now the art”
is watching out for it the next time, right? And saying, okay, I saw these signs of what happened at this, you know, so all of it works together, right? So the good and the bad actually are favorable and, and, and, and add value to everything that creates the success that we see most individuals yourself, you can say, okay, we've been on multiple different platforms. I've used this app. I've used this and I had this type of humor. I have this type of question. And you go, okay, I'm gonna lean
in differently this time. It, it becomes the art of how you start to show up, right? And lean in on companies or make more content. And the results tend to follow without, and, you know, I had a phone call last night. One of my closest friends call me, he's like, man, my aunt just flew in town. She's a big fan. And she was an older lady and I was like, man, she's a big fan. She's like, I would, I do dream that like, I, my whole trip would be made. If I could work out with you.
And, and like, to me, that's the art of it, the anchor of it, the reason why the, no matter all these
different things. And so, um, it's always been true to the thing that did that while understanding
“and learning through all the processes create amazing opportunities. You know, you know what I mean?”
Like, that's, yeah. Like, because sometimes I don't know. Sometimes, um, yeah, it's, it's, it's the interesting art and an interesting, interesting journey for me because I'm also walking in it as it comes and I'm also constantly reminded of what I don't even, what I'm not paying attention to. You know what I mean? So the reminder is, even when you don't want to, someone else is counting on it. Even, you know what I mean? Like, so, so anyway, we can go. I don't want to, no, man. That's,
that's the freaking masterclass right there, bro. Like, that, that's it because again, your spirit of who boss every line is is the fact that you're not just a servant leader, but you're a servant giver as well too, right? Like, all the things that you do,
you never know because it's who you are that it's about you, right? Like,
all the things that you do are about lifting others. And that's where I want to go to next when we talk about just train, right? Like, yeah, you, you could have given up on your dream. You talked about, you thought you were going to be a professional athlete football player, right? You could have, you could have given up. You could have done the what was me. And then your mindset was, well, if I'm not going to make it, I'm going to help those do it, right? I'm going to,
I'm going to make the elite, the, the most elite and I'm going to have the best training program ever. And you did that. Talk to us about the evolution of just training and the things that you were doing early on before it became the brand that it is now. I was in a studio in Miami, with Neo and Twitter had just come out. And I was, that was my opportunity to, to work in entertainment. I had created a concept called CJ to work out, created that blue love. It was on Good Morning
America. And I was like anti-social media. This is early Twitter. And I was just like just train. Like who cares about all that stuff? And I just created just train with note, but again, allowing things to come as they are. So I didn't have a thought. It was literally just as, as
What was, just as ignorant or just crazy as it was, what it meant.
And as I started to slow down, the evolution of just train started to evolve, right? Because it was
“just trained the mind in the body of follow. Because I, I knew every day that that was, I was conditioning.”
And again, I allowed the brand to come to me. So just train is what people see, but the deep in part of it's like, no matter, it's, it's where you get to go sit. And so I started to realize that I was helping people on accident just by being me. It was like not even, I wasn't even like trying to, I was just like, yo, let's go get this. My team would tell you,
I'm so like, I'm always on it. I'm positive. I'm positive. And when people start telling you,
like, man, that hit different or that perspective hit different for me or I had a lady. I, I shared this multiple times. Like, man, you helped me lose weight. And I'm healthy to get a baby. I had no clue. She's crying. I'm sitting there and I'm like, oh, why is she crying? I had no clue that this can have this type of impact. And true story, I read a book. I read a book. I was, and I, I know both of you don't share these type of intimate details, but I, I was walking
apart. And the lady came up to me. And I was doing this. I was school course for a company in Atlanta. Because we all owned a gym in Atlanta. And the lady came up to me. It was few dudes. And she walked directly up to me. And I'm like, she's like, hey, I want you to read a book. And I'm like, what about them? She's like, I want you to read a book. I don't know this lady. I don't know. None of the about her. So I want you to read this book called a period of past. In my mind, I'm like, man, I'm not this,
she goes, she leaves. She brings me to book. I take the book. I'm scared of the book. I'm genuinely scared of the book. I'm going through hard times. I couldn't watch football on TV. I'm training every day. I'm training people. I'm creating programs, but I'm all over the place. Like, not like, you know, and one day, I googled the prayer of your best. And I saw all these amazing reviews. And I read the book and it taught me how I started to understand how I needed to pray. And that started to shift my mind
set. And so when I started to think about just trying to mind in the body, if I don't know, that's when the reading, that's when the understanding, that's when the vision got clear. Then I,
I, I always believed that I needed so I always invested in people. So since I can remember before I even
knew how to hire people, I've always hired people. Like, hey, you work just, you work for just
“training. You used to be called total player. And that's what I, I'm putting people. And so people,”
the people around me started to think of shape the vision, right? Like, your mindset, your mindset, your mindset, your mindset, why do you think? And I'm like, man, you and I know choice to have a good mindset, you know, eight brothers and sisters, your mom died. These things happen. And you, and I'm waking up positive. You know what I mean? And so just trying to mind in a body of follow, football didn't work, became the mantra. And so every day I poured that same thing back in the
just training in the community. And so that's the brand we have today, as we expand to Atlanta, as we're expanding, we're doing stuff in Saudi Arabia. Like, that's how it came. There's no like, yes, I got the story of sleeping in my car in there. Oh, yeah, I'd be listening to my car. You know, but just trying came from the people around, like, people helping me understand that vision clear from myself, you know, and who I was. And so that learning opened up so much. I'm a student
of the game. Again, that learning component was like, okay, I guess my mindset, you know,
always knew I was a positive people will gravitate towards me. I didn't know what that was about.
I didn't know why people would always want to be around boss. You know, how didn't understand that, right? And people like, man, people just love me. People love you. I'm like, okay, and then I realize when I started to do all these different things that training was my thing. I can go be an executive. I can go do all this. I used to try to run from the training title. And then I realized that it was my super power. Then I'm going to let, unless I want just trying to be a pillar for so many other
individuals in his industry and young uping whoever it is to be able to say, man, look at what that has become or look at what that did for me or how can we be a part of that or cannot emulate that.
“That's what just trained evolved into and it's not just about the gym. It's literally about”
how the mindset of how we evolve. And so I appreciate that question. But that's really how just trained came about. I love it, man. And for everybody that's watching and listening, the one thing that they can feel right now is what you just hit on. That positive energy and positive presence
That you have.
man, like, it is something that is unique to you. And I will tell you that because that's what drew
me to you on social, that drew me to following you on all the things that I do. I love for you to talk to the person that's listening right now. That's watching right now. That needs that positivity influence in their life. I don't care what you want to say, how you want to deliver it. But there's somebody watching right now, man. It's like, I just need positivity in my life. And I'm going to open up the floor for Boston to give them a boss message because I know you got it. Yeah. You know,
in the time when mental health is so important, you know, I like to isolate to elevate, you know, I, and and isolate doesn't mean go sit by yourself. It means go get five three to five closest people to you to have a mission that a positive driven, that are workout driven, that are literally leaning in on being a better human. And it don't got to be all positive talk. But you got to get rid of the conversations that lead nowhere. I tell people all the time, the power of the, the,
the boring conversation changes lives. Being in the room, go listen to podcasts, go listen to things like this, we're making go sit down and and absorb just nothing but positivity. And
“a deeply rooted thing is you got to change your heart. Your heart has to change. You have to”
start to look at everything through a positive lens. Gratitude is one of the greatest human emotions. And when you have gratefulness for the good and the bad, it's hard to be negative. It's hard to, when you, when you look at something from the lens of like, oh, that could have went worse. But it is what it is. It went the way it went. And your life will start to shift for you. And I tell people at the time, you could tell when someone is struggling internally, because it
comes out of their pores, even if they don't know it, right? They're easily bothered, they're easily frustrated. And we're all human. We all go through those things. But if you're struggling, right now, to find positivity, it's, the requirement is you have to have self talk. You have to have people around you that also have positive talk back in a human. You got to learn to do the same thing.
You got to learn to speak positive self talk into other people. And it will ultimately be
something that you will find yourself so happy, so happy that you look back and you're like, man, where did these change? And you almost forget because you have, have food and lied to yourself about man, these, these negative thoughts you shift them in the positive. You shift them in the
“positive and before you know it, people are saying, man, what happened then? What happened then?”
Second such a, what happened to her or what happened to him? Because you, and you don't partake, I, I stopped partaking in negative conversations. Like, it's, it's, it's, some people take it as disrespectful, but I'm like, I don't want to know, it ain't my business, I don't want to know. And so once you start to get to a place of positivity, you don't want to be around. It, like, things come up. I'm not saying that I walk around with this, this, this, this thing around me, but I'm just like,
I don't let certain things penetrate me because I used to, tester, oh, it's my, tell me something I'm festering, I'm festering, I'm festering on someone else's problems and things I can't control. And I started to give that positive energy on things that foster control, life started to have an upside. And then when I, I'll say this last thing, when I started to look at my life and say, why not, why me? Why not me? It shifted everything. People, a lot of times go, why do you start
putting me? And then I will just, I started to say, why not me? Why not? Why not? Why would I, why would I want that for somebody else? Why would I, I'm strong enough for this? I can push through this and when that mind shift, hey, when you start, because I don't want someone to go through, I tell people, I don't want someone to lose their parents. So why would I want that for someone else? And that shifts. I don't want that for anybody else.
So I say, why not me? Okay, I'm going to be the positive vessel. But when people do go through things,
“I say, hey, cry, go through what you need to go through, but know you got to get back in the game.”
Know you got to get back in the game. And so that's it. Yeah. No, man, that's why you are who you are. That's why I appreciate you personally more than anything. That positive tip. And you hit it, right? Like we're all going to go through things. We're all
going to have bad moments. Like I never believe that we have bad days. We can have bad moments.
But it's what do you allow your energy to do with that, right? Like a bad moment can turn into a bad day into a bad week into a bad month. But if you're like boss, you learn how to channel that. Look at the positive or creative positivity around it, brother. So I appreciate you more than you ever know, man. I really do. Thank you, man. So before I get you out of here and before I do my
Rapid fire top five, let the world know, what do you have going on?
about you? Where do you want them to follow you? Find you what it, the floor is yours, brother. Man, I can say, look, I'm just trained. I'm boss. I'm not the brand. I'm a part of the brand. I just want people to know that you can change your life. Like you could go be as everything you want to be. I come on here just to share a message. I don't come on here to I just want to promote
“positivity and inspire somebody to see me and block out all the noise. Like if you want to”
follow me, cool. If you don't, great. But take this as a moment that the maybe this is decided. Maybe it's something I say. Maybe it's something mixed in. Maybe whatever it is, that's what this
is for me. When I get asked that question a lot, I'm always like, this is an opportunity and I'm
just thankful to share very, very healthy conversations with Mike Martin individuals to be able to share a platform and maybe help that one person, you know, or, you know, to say, all right, I'm going to get up and go. And so thank you for giving me the platform. Thank you for allowing me to be here with you. I'm always again grateful for these moments. I'm the honor one, brother. So I'm going to get you out of here with the rapid fire top five. Ready? Yes, sir. All right, your favorite athlete
of all time, Michael Jordan. I'm a tar hill. He is mine, too. There we go. Your favorite professional football team. Houston or Lers, but Houston Texans, but, you know, now we're the Texans. So,
yeah, I got it. I'm home town, Htown. I got to row with my dogs. I like it. I like it. Who is a celebrity
beast in the gym that most people wouldn't think is a beast in the gym? Everybody kind of knows kid is a beast. He trains really hard. Niels a beast. Man, I've been blessed. I mean, I've been around DJ, the rock is a beast. All these guys that get after it, kid, get after it. These guys go, like, I've been, like, goes, goes aren't ludicrous, goes hard. Like, I've been around, guys got a train and like they get ready for the league going to play professional sports. So,
I can't give one answer. I like it. I like it. I like it. I know you're an advert reader, man. What's what's one of the recent books that you're into right now? So, it's a book that I want to share
is called a slide-edge. The slide-edge is a book that talks about compound interest, the compound
affectionate life. You're not, you're not going to get healthy because you ain't one good build, meal, you're not healthy because you ain't one bad meal. It's the compound effective life. And so, I would love people to read the slide-edge or take a look at the slide-edge. I recommend that book. That's one of my top recommended books that I constantly read and refresh on. I'm about to get it right now. I'm about to get it right now. Last question,
"As the story and the legacy of Boss is being sad and told, was one word you want to make sure is in your legacy?" Family. It's my family, man. I want the word discipline. I want people to think about my family's discipline. My discipline is the most attractive thing. The world rewards you for discipline. When you're discipline, the rewards come. So the legacy of me, the legacy of my kids,
should be discipline. Everything about Boss and the family, it should be those people are discipline.
“And when I think about legacy, I don't think about myself. I think about the pillar. So I want”
people to know that the legacy beyond Boss, the ever-my-name, is discipline. I love that brother. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been my guide. Ron, boss, everyone. Ron, boss, brother, thank you so much. Means the world to have you with me. Anytime you need me, man, I am here. I am there. And I'm just honored to spend the time with you, man. Then I truly appreciate this. Thank you for having me on. Congratulations to all your success.
I know you can have a lot of people on and you allow me to be here with you. So I know you said it's an honor, but I want you to know that it's an honor for me to be back here with you and I look forward to us connecting more and if I can, you could be a best for me and I can be one of you,
“best day of my opinion. Absolutely, absolutely. To all the viewers and listeners, remember,”
your because is your superpower. Go on, we should. You've been plugged into Mick Unplug. Don't just listen. Take action. Rate and subscribe. Follow me on social and get the full experience at Mitt Hunt Official.com. Keep building, keep leading, and most importantly, keep dominating.

