"Hey weirdos, I'm Elena!
And this is a morbid bonus episode.
"It's a mother-fucking moan. Before we get into it, must our might, I say. Your hair has such a good swoop right now." "Oh thank you!" "I just noticed the swoop which that your hair has." "It just did it and I said wow." "Sometimes it falls into a good swoop and sometimes it falls into a swoop that makes me look crazy." "No it's a great swoop." "Thank you." "You're giving Patricia actual." "Oh that's a swoop." "That's a swoop, a loop." "That's a swoop there it is."
"I'm into it." "And you know what, we're going to be covering today everybody?" "We're going to go have
“because we're going to do it." "I'm excited. This is, I think, my least favorite of the five”
movies." "Yeah it's pretty gnarly." "But there's, there's fun parts of it." "There is, oh yeah,
there's a lot to talk about." "Yeah." "But before we get into that really, really quick, go check out my socials really quick. I mentioned it on the last more of it episode, but if you have been looking for to pre-order a signed copy of the butcher legacy, because I know some people are looking for some signed copies because they were gone at Barnes & Noble, go check out my socials because I partnered with premiere collectibles and I signed a bunch
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on our socials." "Hell yeah." "So go to that." "And you know, I'll keep signing as much as I can." "She better." "You know, I'll keep doing it as long as you guys want it." "I'll do it." "I mean, what more can you ask for if you want it?" "I'm saying." "But now a clips into the show." "Let's fucking talk about this god. I reread the book in one day in like a day and a half." "Oh, okay." "Okay." "And I like speed read." "The like it wasn't a whole let me let me
and fill it myself in this world." "It's pretty good." "But actually it's behind me and I need it for reference." "When I tell you this bitch has a copy of a clips that is full of little post-it notes." "I do. We should post that." "Yeah, we absolutely should post it." "That was the bonus." "Yeah, I got into it." "I have a Google doc like a normal person." "Yeah, I got one of those too." "But so we got this."
“"The book is a wild ride in my opinion." "Yeah, because I think the characters in the book are so”
much worse than they are in the movie." "They are and I feel like that goes throughout the series." "Yeah." "Not all the characters, but no, not all of them." "And we'll get into this for sure, but Charlie is fucking terrible in the book." "And Jacob, I would say, is worse." "Yeah, he might be a little worse." "Yeah, he actually is." "He's still out and he's pretty bad in the movie." "He is in this movie."
"Let's get into it." "Let's get into it." "Well first of all, let me tell you." So this book came out August 7th, 2007, the clips book. I was 11, holy shit. I was out of high school. I was 21. Yep, and the movie came out June 24th, 2010. Okay, so just to give you some kind of idea on that, I also looked at the box office because I was really interested to see at this point what the box office was doing. Yeah.
A clips actually is the highest grossing film of the series recently. Yeah, interesting.
I guess it was made for 68, the budget was 68.5 million. Wow.
It made 760 million worldwide. Holy shit. So they made back that budget. I would say so. Yeah, they did that. That's crazy. I don't think I saw this one in theaters.
“I can't remember though. Cannot remember. Yeah, for some reason I can't. I think I watched it like”
when it came to like on demand. Yeah. I can't remember on demand. Yeah, I can't remember. I know we together saw one of the breaking downs in theaters. I think it was the first one. Yeah, we definitely saw at least one of them. Yeah. But you know what, in this one, I have to say, it's shocking. Like the carrot, because Edward has like weird character growth, but also he falls back. Well, in Jacob, just tumble backwards. Like he devolves in a way. I can't even.
I feel like it's a cat. I know she's she didn't mean to. She says, but Stephanie Myers, but
Or Maya, but it's like a character assassination of.
Because you and I were talking about it before we started recording this. And in part two,
“you understand Jacob. Like he could be a little much for sure. Yeah. Like his feelings for Bella.”
But like he's rightfully angry at Edward for abandoning her in the woods, which is crazy. Absolutely. And you know, they're growing. They're hanging out all the time. They see a lot of others for each other. Yeah. So you can, and then like, you know, Edward comes back and or like she goes to get Edward. And he's like what the fuck? And he's like rightfully angry. He doesn't make like the best choices. Yeah. But then in this one, he just assaults Bella. He loses God damn mind. Yeah. He loses his
God damn mind in this one. Yeah. And he's like snarky as fuck in this one. Yeah. But it doesn't work because like Jacob, he has like a little witch. These werewolf. So I guess like, you know, he's got a little some to them. They're like a little edge. Like, but like it's too, it's not, it's not charming. Well, that's the thing. It's not like a sexy edge. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a or a douchebag. Like I'm genuinely worried about my safety kind of edge. And that's not where you want to be. It's like beyond an edge.
Yeah. But Edward, I got to say because like in the first two books, and then the first two movies,
“Edward is weird. Not great. Like when I was first reading this, I remember being like,”
"Oh my God, I'm damn tired." Oh yeah. And oh no, I'm like, "Oh my God, I'm damn tired." Now I'm just kind of like, wow, you're like really controlling. Yeah. And you also treat Bella, like she's like a tiny baby child. It's everybody. Like I've said it the last level that we've done of these. Bella is so baby girl coach. She's so baby girl coach. It's like, like he has explained things to her. Yeah. He's like, "We just don't get it." Because you're just like a so girl.
Well, and also like while we're talking about that, I saw a lot of people saying because I was just like reading online forums and stuff. Alice is very similar to Edward in that way. They make it seem like her and and Bella are like bestie girls. Yeah. But a lot of times she's kind of manipulating or not even kind of just like straight up manipulating Bella into Edward's every whim. Yeah. Like, he offers her a Porsche to kidnap Bella so that she doesn't go see Jacob in the
book. Yeah. And it's like, "What?" And "What?" And also, in like, obviously I'm getting a little bit ahead of myself. But I know in the in the movie it kind of ends with like they're going to get married and Lottie and Alice is going to plan the whole thing. She Alice kind of forces Bella into letting her plan the whole thing in the book. Yeah. And it's like definitely does. Okay. And she steps in a lot and is like, and it's like, it's like, it's masked. Like you said as like,
"Oh, we're just best friends." And then just like, "This is who I am." And I just love doing this. But I'm sorry if like she keeps jumping in and being like, "I got you this dress that you can
“wear for this thing." Right. And you can look like this for this. Right. And I think you should do that”
for that way. I'm like, "You're dull. Just let me." And it's like she wants to plan all the parties, which it's like that on the surface. Yeah. Nice. Cool. She's good at planning parties. Like that's fine. But it's like underneath that is like, I'm controlling everything. Yeah. And this is all mine. Right. And also you're going to owe me exactly. So that's how I see it. It's one thing for her to plan like the prom party or whatever. I can't remember if it's the prom party or the graduation
party that she throws. And honestly, she plans all of them. But you're wedding. Yeah. Like, you can have somebody help you plan. She plans her birthday, her wedding, her graduation party. You got to plan a party, but yeah. Like, at least give her the option. Exactly. No one really gives Bella the option to do anything. No. They really tell her how they how she feels about them. Oh, Jacob loves telling her how she feels. And then even Edward, it's like who I'm saying has some
growth here, but like by no means is perfect. It's like he just don't he doesn't listen to the fact that she's sitting there at one point because like obviously the little thing of this is like Bella's like super horned up. And I want to just like can we please just fuck. And Edward is like very against. Because he's like I'm going to I'll kill you. And then that and he's like I'll kill you, but Bob I'll lose control. But then he's like, okay, when we're married, I want to wait and
tell him married. And it's like, well, I don't need that to really make that decision too. One, you don't like, and obviously you both have to like decide this, but when she's talking about it,
she's basically saying, especially in the book that like she's like, I want to do this before
I'm a vampire, which is like fair. I'm a human. I want to experience this as a human because I don't know who I'm going to be. Right. I'm a vampire. I'm not going to be just this. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, like, no, you'll still be my Bella. And he's like, no, she didn't ask that.
She didn't ask her what she will be to you.
Nobody listens. And it's like, and obviously again, she's not like she can force him to do it. Like, he gets a choice in this as well. But they're not having a back and forth. Yeah,
it felt like he just wasn't like when he just says, well, you're always be my Bella. I was like,
that's not the point when it's like, it's literally just like poop. Yeah, like this is like, this isn't about you. This is about her right now. Like, let her tell you how she's feeling here. And it's like, and then there's that like whole thing about like, you know, do you not trust that I'm going to turn you? I'm going to keep my promise and like, and then he's like, how do I know that you're not going to get what you want? And then refuse to marry me right away. And I was like,
“do you see how this is not a good relationship? Because you guys are supposed to make all this?”
Do you see how you're 17 years old? Like what I want to experience more of life? But I do have to give it to Edward when I say he had growth. Like, in this one, he starts kind
of like we're saying before he's like, very, like, baby girl. And he still is. But in this one,
he least says several times that he trusts Bella's judgment. Yeah. And that if she feels like something is right or the right thing to do, he just has to trust her regardless of how he feels. But it's only in certain aspects. Yeah. Because like I said, he literally offers Alice a porch to give it not Bella so that she doesn't make a choice that she wanted to make. Exactly. And that's, but he is honestly, I'll give him this. He is so fucking patient with the Jacob
shot. He is. Oh, in the, in the movie, it starts right away. And when I, she just hops on the back of Jacob's bike when he is like, okay, like, let's go to the reservation and I'll tell you everything that
“Edward hasn't told you. It's like, and just leave some state. I'm sorry. I can't imagine if my”
man's was at word and I hopped on the back of somebody else's bike. My man's would not put up with that. It's fun. And I wonder if you're born on the moon. It's your mortal enemy. That's crazy. Like, I had, I was watching this on my, uh, my laptop this morning. And, uh, my girls were like sitting doing something like near me. And so they were kind of like every now and again looking over and being like, what is this? So it's explaining like the very generalized version of like this is what
Twilight is. And so everyone's in a wild. My oldest would look over. And at one point, she saw, like, um, Bella and Edward interacting. And she saw a couple of times. And at one point after like the third time, she goes, they don't seem like they really like each other that much. And I was like,
I know, like, she was like, they're just always like, like, snapping at each other. Like, that doesn't
seem like a nice relationship. Well, it's funny because like, they are snapping at each other all the time, like, as characters. Yeah. Like, also just as two humans, they don't really have a lot of chemistry, which isn't same because they were together. Yeah. Like, they're like madly and love supposedly. Yeah. Uh, yeah. It's pretty, and at one point, I was pretty proud because that, like, towards the end of it, all three of my girls agreed that they would pick neither. That's good.
That was like, that's pretty true. They were like, yeah, it doesn't make sense. And one of my middle was like, she was like, well, I don't really understand how she can pick either because they both hate each other. Yeah. And if your friends with one and trying to like date the other, that won't work if they hate the other person. I was like, you are more logical than adults here. Also, like, we are, they're being raised so differently than we were because I was like, oh my god,
you got to pick that word. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. I was like, don't pick either of these fools. Yeah. No. I was like, pick Charlie. God, book Charlie, not book Charlie. You can pick
“Zaddy Charlie for me. You should not knock Charlie. Book Charlie. Like, maybe we should, we're”
going to be out of order here because we don't do these in like, iterations. Yeah. We're just going to shoot the shit Charlie. Yeah. Charlie. Literally is the worst. Let me open my book. Book Charlie is a, how did you even organize an asshole on a way I can't even describe. Just going to go through my 17 posts. It's over here. Yeah. Just like tons of people here, flicking through them. He's funny. He's funny. He's funny. He's funny. He's funny. Look at the
flicking. I got a sign where I wrote, what the fuck Charlie? Because that's one of the things I wrote. I'm going to read an excerpt here. Hold on. What the fuck is this Charlie? That's what he did in fact, right back. Yeah. So in chapter nine in the book, when I think he's talking about how like he wants her to call Jacob, he's like trying to push that whole thing. And she's kind of being like, now I don't want to deal with this and like, you know, get out of my business. Yeah,
anything. He's like, aren't you going to call him? And she's like, no, and she goes up the stairs. And he says, and I quote, that's not very attractive behavior Bella forgiveness is divine. Charlie. What? I said, excuse me, numero uno. What a weird fucking thing to say to your daughter. The day that I hear my husband tell one of my daughters, that's not very attractive behavior.
I'm not trying to be honest.
rid of the whole thing. Yeah, I'll come over. You can't save that. Like, why are you saying that to your
daughter? First of all, forgiveness is divine. forgiveness is divine. You don't even know what we're arguing about.
Shut the fuck up. You're uninformed. My God. You're very uninformed. And I have more stupid Charlie shit in the book here. Well, because even when he is informed, he doesn't really give a shit. Oh, yeah, because I have another thing that just says Charlie in here. And this is in like a in the 300's range. And it's after Jacob has forced himself on Bella kissing her. Yeah. And which we'll get to that because that whole scene in the book is we even more upsetting.
“Read that scene first because I think you need to hear how it's described in the book before you”
hear Charlie's reaction. All right. So let me get to the to the part in the book where I want to direct you here. I'm like, hold on. That was right. Because so even in the movie, just while you're looking for them, they're even in the movie. Like, he kisses her forcefully. And it's a law in the
movie. But in the book, it is a million times worse. That's it. And in the in the movie, it happens so fast.
And it's still upsetting. But it's kind of like, but you're like, oh God, and she kind of pushes them away and is like, what the fuck? It's like you know them. Yeah. In the book, this is how it says the first kiss. This is what it says. So first she starts to object. But it was too late. He stopped her before she could even say the word no completely. And it says, "Lips crushed mine stopping my protest." He kissed me angrily, roughly. His other hand gripping tight around the back of my neck, making a scape
“impossible. Oh. Yeah. I shoved against his chest with all my strength, but he didn't even seem to”
notice. And then she says, I grabbed at his face trying to push it away, failing again. He'd seem to notice this time, though, and it aggravated him. She's pushing him away and it aggravated him ready, ready for the next one. His lips forced mine open. And I could feel his hot breath in my mouth. You, you motherfucker. And then this is the part that really gets so that is already. You're like, what the fuck? No consent. That's a salt. This one little paragraph is so upsetting because I know
a lot of people and a lot of women. You'll have experience. No this feeling right here. You'll acting on instinct. I let my hands drop to my side and shut down. I opened my eyes and didn't fight. Didn't feel just waited for him to stop. How is that even remotely romantic before he
even get to Charlie's reaction about that? I need to go to the the archive that we always
referenced. Stephanie Myers archive. Oh, yeah. Where's the archive? So there's FAQs about each book. Yeah. And this one is in a clip. One of the frequently asked questions is, what are characters biggest mistakes in a clip? So they're tragic flaws. So she says Bella's is lack of self-knowledge. She never would have pursued her friendship with Jacob. If she had realized how much more of a
“friendship than it really was, Yadi Nadio. And then Edwards, I think his was self-control. She said,”
Jacob doesn't have a tragic flaw. She writes. Could have fooled me. He has one goal and one hope. His goal is to save Bella's life. His hope is that he'll win her heart in the process. He fails at both. But that doesn't mean he regrets trying. If he could do it over again, he'd do the same thing. Well, Jacob couldn't live with himself if he didn't give saving Bella his best effort. He knows it's going to hurt when he loses. But he knows it would hurt worse if he didn't try. Does he do everything
right? Heck no. I heard that sister. But he's 16, she writes. And he's making it up as he goes along. Like he should probably make it up better. Those who are upset by some of his tactics should consider his youth and the fact that he that he is after all right. Bella's in love with him. In the end, it's truly healthier for her to be aware of this as she goes forward with unalterable decisions. Wow. So Bella has to be told like Jacob is right about the fact that Bella is in love with
him, according to Stephanie Wire. Mm-hmm. And she needs to listen to him about her feeling. Yeah. That he says she has. Yeah. Listen to the, listen to the man. She's good. He doesn't have any autonomy. She doesn't know how she feels. She needs to be told. No. And as we will see and especially in a clips, they make it pretty clear that not many women have autonomy in this like, hello. Not many of them have. Hello. Also, if he could do it over again,
he'd do the same thing. Damn. Oh, damn is what I say. Well, and that's in that's when it gets worse because she punches him in the face and that scene. And she breaks her hand and she breaks her hand. And so he has to bring her back to Charlie and in the movie, which like I got to tell you in the movie, when Edward is just like appears. Honey, that's. And he's so angry and all up in Jacob's face.
I was like, that's what I remember.
Yeah, we're both like, oh, shit. I love that's when I like Edward. I like when he gets mad.
“But even I will say it because we're about to read Charlie's reaction in the book.”
Charlie's reaction in the movie isn't that great either. It's not great, but it's far and away better than this. Oh, as a book. Because in the movie, he just kind of stands between them, which I understand. Yeah, because we're about to talk about going on. And Jacob says, but Bella thinks she broke her hand. And he's like, what? And she's like, I punching me in the face. And he kind of like looks at him like what? And then he's like,
I tried to kiss her. I kissed her. Yeah. And he just kind of looks. And you can tell he's like, I don't know how to react to this. Like, because they're both there. And like, that's weird. It's not a great reaction. But it's not great. Not terrible when you look at this. But that's the thing. This is what. And that's kind of it. So in the book, though, Jacob just walks on into the house, volcanoes absolutely nothing about what just occurred. And he's like, Hey, and she walks by Charlie to
go get ice because no one's getting her ice either. Gotta get it. She's just going to walk over her broken hand. And Charlie says, what's wrong with her? Don't ask her. Ask Jacob. Yeah.
“And she, Jacob says she thinks she broke her hand. How did he even she did break?”
I think she thinks she thinks she broke. Like, she's crazy. Like, you know, she's a stereotypical girl. And he says, how did she do that? And she says, as my father, I thought Charlie ought to sound a bit less amused and a bit more concerned. And I said, yes, sister, Jacob left. She hit me. Oh, Charlie left too. And I scowled while I beat the tray against the edge of the sink. Why did she hate you? Because I kissed her. Jacob said on a shamed. Good for you, kid. Charlie congratulated him.
I've several things to say about you. So many things to say about that. Okay. So the second
that Jacob said, she hit me. I can tell you with 100% certainty. I would lay down my entire life on this bet that if I walked in with my best guy friend. And I know exactly if I walked in in high school with my friend Derek, who was like my parents knew him. Like, everybody, one of my best guy friends. If I walked in there with him, and I was holding a broken hand in my dad's, because sure, my dad looks at him and says, what happened? Yeah. If he said, she hit me,
my dad would have had Derek out in the forest. 100%. You would have been like, what the fuck did you do that she would have? Like, that would have been, it wouldn't have even been a thought. He would have been out of that house faster than you could blink. It wouldn't be why did, you know, why did she hit you? It would be what did you do to make her hit you. Like, it would be fully on him. Why not talk to yourself to fence again. That would be it. So he's saying, she, I kissed her
and she was so upset that she fucking punched me in the face. She had to act in self-defense.
And your first response to that is what is it? Is it good for you? Good for you, kid.
Instead of, oh, you did it without her consent. What the fuck is wrong with you? Well, like that, and that's not even the end of how fucked up the men are around her in this scene, because it's not even just Charlie. I know. Because first of all, Jacob is being a little dick. Like, he thinks his whole thing is funny. Like, he's not bothered about it at all. And then when she tells Jacob, when he's like, what happened on the phone? Edward,
or Edward, he's like, what happened? And she says, I punched Jacob. His response should be what happened? What did he do that you needed to punch him? Nope. He says, good. Though I'm sorry, that I'm sorry you're hurt. You don't want to know why? And she has to say several little things. Like, she's like, oh, I wish I had hurt him. I didn't do any damage at all. Bop, bop, bop, it's several ways down where he says, what did he do? Like, hello? Like,
or do any of you care that you, if she's punching her best friend, a man, yeah,
“you should be concerned about what he did to bring her back. What, and then it gets even worse.”
I was going to say, what does he say? Because I don't remember. So then, Edward arrives, so this is in the book, Edward arrives, and Jacob and Edward are kind of like going on each other a little bit. Like, just right, right, right, right. And Charlie comes in. And of course, only says to Edward, like, hey, like, so you got it back off. And then he says, I can go put on my badge if it makes my my my request more official. Mm-hmm. And Edward says, that won't be necessary.
And that's when Bella says, why don't you arrest me, dad? I'm the one throwing punches. Like, are you seeing anything that's happening here? And his response, Charlie raised an eyebrow. Do you want to press charges, Jake? Brother. Brother, Jake's not the one that was assaulted. How about you ask your daughter that? And to ask your own, in front of your own fucking daughter,
Ask this boy, do you know what's so sad?
This is probably like, at least some what similar to an experience that a lot of girls are probably
not fucked up. Like, we're lucky. Like, we had pop up, but I can't tell my dad's are like this. I can't amount. That is obviously for that to have been written in the book. That's really been some kind of reality. Of course it is. Which is awful. I just cannot fathom it. That's insane. I really can't. I can't fathom it. Which is nice that we can't. Like, it is that was the worstree. I was like Charlie, you are so attractive in the movie. And you are so unattractive in the
book. Yeah. Like, really, I got down. He's a bridge troll in the book. Like, that was so fucked. Is it Billy Burke? Who's the, yes, actually? So, Billy Burke really saved Charlie Swan. He did. He really, he really, really really did. He really saved. He, he made him what he is. So like, hats off to Billy Burke. Yeah, period. And that's the thing. It's like, when I say Edward had growth, it's like, only so much. Yeah. Because like, he is like, again, he's very patient with the Jacob shit. Like, like, this kind of thing.
You could have killed him, right? Then then there are 100% of it. Because they're supernatural creatures. It's not like these are two humans. Right. But he's super, but, and he's baited the entire movie by Jacob. Yeah, baited. And he does manage to keep his shit together, which like, I realize the bar is in hell here. But like, that is the universe we're currently watching right now. Can we jump forward, like, massively? Yeah, to when they are, so like, the newborns are coming, which like,
we'll go to, oh my god, see this if you're listening most likely. So the newborns are coming, they're like, they mark a Bella sent in the field. Yeah. And her and Edward hike up to this, like, crazy peak to stay away from everything. And Jacob is there. And Bella, it's snowing for some reason in June on this mountain peak. I realize it's nose on mountain peaks, but like, it wouldn't
“happen to you. Like actively. Exactly. Like the storm outside. I think it could have snow on the”
peak in June, but like, an active snow storm. I feel like it's crazy. Yeah, definitely. So Bella's like freezing, obviously, and like Edward is fine because he's dead. And Jacob is super duper warm. So he comes inside and he's like, I can't focus with all the teeth chattering. Like, let me just keep her warm and yeah. Edward is like, no, like, fuck you. And I can hear your thoughts like,
not going to happen. Yeah. He's like, finally he relents because Bella's going to get frostbite
otherwise. And he literally, Jacob looks at Edward and goes, let's face it. I'm hotter than you. Let's face it. I am hotter than you know. Let's face it. I'm hotter than you. And then I said, that's nuts. And then he says that she would warm up faster as he's holding her now. She would warm up faster if she took her clothes off. He says this allowed to her in front of her man. There's so much wrong with that. First of all, to say that at all in front of Bella is
to Bella while you're holding her is fucked up and weird when she's already now punched you because you made an advance on her. And when she's made it fucking clear that she's not looking for that. That's exactly what I'm saying. And you're sitting there manipulating this situation and saying something so gross and like, and Pegasus. And now like, now she knows like, she does need you in this event. Like, she's going to get frostbite otherwise. And you're cradling her and she knows
that you're thinking about her with her clothes. Yeah. She knows you have like a boner and are sitting there like snuggling up against her and she can't do anything else about it. Because she's going to die otherwise. And poor Edward can hear everything he's thinking.
“Yeah. Like honestly, anybody who is team Jacob after a clip, please come to the front and”
explain yourself. Please. Because I can't, I see get it from the first two movies. I see a lot of
people saying that he's just a kid and like he doesn't know what he better. No, babe, he's a teenager. But I do. That's a majority of people are, yeah, they feel how we feel. I can't. And when he says can't you at Lee, like when Edward's like can't you at least can attempt to control your thoughts? That was a very nice fucking way to put that. It was. Like, and in the book he says something like, I can hear your like every little fantasy you're having right now and I was like,
get it together. He's just got to get it together. So gross. Get it together. He also tells Jacob tells Edward in this moment at least in the movie. If you would stay away another six months, I could have had a chance. Yeah. Why would you want a chance? If it, if your only chance relied on the one that she actually loved being away for like a period of time, yeah, that's not real. No,
“your replacement. Why do you want that? Don't you want somebody who just wants you immediately?”
You would think like I don't understand that. Well, then after this, like in the movie,
Bella and Edward have like a discussion the next morning and the idea of like...
married. Because they're engaged already because they got engaged the night before us. Which
I'm going to get to that too because she has a wild reaction in the book to it. But she so they're
“talking about it and he says something like, you know, in the book, I think he says like the best”
night was when you agreed to marry me. Yeah. And then like he says something else in the movie that is alluding to the fact that they're getting married. And in the movie, you know, Jacob is just like standing a little way as a way. So he's like that. So he hears it. And when she walks out, she's like, you knew he was listening. And Edward's like, he deserves to know what I do the same thing. Well, then she flips out and Edward and it's like, you're an asshole. He's like, runs away to kill himself.
But in the book, she, he's like further away when he hears this and in wolf form and he's in wolf form. So when he says this, all of a sudden, you hear Jacob like, howl and pain, like a heartbreaking howl from like a long ways away. And she doesn't blame Edward in the book because of course not. She starts blaming herself. She's like, I'm awful. I can't believe I did this. I'm the worst. Like, even cities like are you angry at me for saying that? She's like, no, I mean,
create myself. And like, damn, you just gave zero. Like, she's just like, I'm the worst. And then
“Edward wants to like chill her out. So much that he's like, do you want me to go get Jacob?”
And you can like talk this out. Like, I'll go get him. Because he's like, imagine having to do that. And he does. He goes and gets him. And then he's like, I'm going to give you guys time to talk about this. Not as such a in the book. It's such an inappropriate. Like, there's no boundaries with this relationship as far as like her friendship goes with Jacob. And then in both situations, she goes to talk to him about it and Jacob is like, you know,
upset in whatever. And he just immediately starts threatening suicide, which is so manipulative. It's so manipulative. It's like, what the fuck? And then she's sitting there being like, he's like, you know what, maybe I'll just, you know, do this or do that. Or maybe I'll just, you know what? I will go down and battle. And I'll just let, I want it happen to me. And then at one point, he's like, oh, you know what, maybe I could be passive about it. I'll just, I'll fight,
but whatever happens happens. And it's putting it all on her. And I'm like, if I die, it's your fault,
because now I'm going to die sad. Like, no, no, I'm never going to be with you anyway. I'm going to
die a sad boy. And it's like, that's literally not her fault. No. And then there's like several times where she's like, she keeps telling him, she's like, you know, I don't love you like that. Like, she said it before. I love you like a friend. And he keeps saying, you do love me. And he's like, you do love me. You are attracted to me. You just don't understand it. And he even says at one point, like, you are more comfortable with me in my wolf form because you're not attracted to me.
It's like, no, babe, she's probably more comfortable with you in wolf form because you can't shove your tongue down her throat. Oh, yeah. And she literally is like, no, it's because you shut the fuck up. Yeah, you can't talk. That's nice. And I'm like, take that hint, babe. Well, like, when she's telling you, yeah, I like you as a fuzzy creature better, because one, you can't make out with me into you shut the fuck up. That should give you all the information you need. That according to
Stephanie Meyer, he's correct. Oh, yeah, he's correct. But then he keeps saying he's going to be going to kill himself. He's going to kill himself. And at one point, she's like, she's like, I don't want you to go away. And like, and he's like, see? And she's like, well, no, I love you. I don't want you to go away. That does, it's not all or nothing. It's not, if I, if I love you in the way I love Edward, then that means one thing. But like, I want, you know what I mean? Like, just because I don't
want you to go away doesn't mean I want to fuck you. Like, there's plenty of people in my life that I don't want to go away. You said this earlier. Like, she doesn't want Charlie to go away. And she says that. She's like, I feel that way about Charlie. Yeah. Like, you're my family. I don't want something bad to happen to you. Like, I love you that way. And he's like, nope, you want to
follow? No, you don't get it. And he keeps going. Keeps going. And she finally is like, I want you
to come back. And he's like, you, that, he says, um, what, you could ask me. Because remember, and I don't think we mentioned this, but when he forced, forcibly kisses her before, and both the book and the movie Edward is like, maybe you could wait for her to ask you, which I'm like, team Edward. Yeah. And so he, and even says Edward said, because at one point
“while they're talking, um, I think Jacob asked Edward, like, what if she did ask me? And he's like,”
then that's. And then it's to be with that. That's her choice. Right. I would respect her choice. Which I'm like, again, came that word. But in this one, Jacob says, you could ask me. And she's like, please come back thinking that's like, I'm not saying you didn't come back. And he says that's not what I'm talking about. So he's literally saying, I'm out. I'm going to kill myself or you could ask me. And she has to say, will you kiss me, Jacob? That's insane. And literally the only
Reason that he does, that she does is to make him not kill himself.
universe ever. The most toxic thing. And the make out that they have goes on for about four pages.
Oh my God. It's so many pages for so many pages. How many pages? How many pages? Because doesn't she picture their future together. At one point, and I guess they filmed this, but they didn't
“like how the make up looked. I kind of wish they had. It's apparently like top secret. Like I want it.”
It was a deleted scene. And I know like if you have the DVD, you're like the extended cut. Is it on there? No. There are deleted scenes that are included. But this one is as like you can't find it anywhere. But there's a couple pictures from onset that people have. Yeah, you can see them. Yeah. And yeah, because that's part of it. She starts picturing that. But it's only after, like, he is intense. Like, he does the angry aggressive kiss where she does the same thing.
She balls her hands up at her side. She doesn't want to be hit. And he forces her wrist up to the where his neck is. And she says she keeps her hand balled up. She doesn't even grab his neck.
He holds her wrist there for a lot of a time. And then finally, let's go.
And then tells her she can do better than this. Like, like, she can kiss better. Yeah, because
“she's not kissing him back. Oh, and he's literally like, you can do better than that. Like, that is”
genuine. Like, obviously the first one was upsetting. This one is so much more upsetting. It really is. And then he says, like, you can do better than this. Yeah. And she says, and he says, um, for once, just let yourself feel what you feel. And she says, I shook my head mechanically. Until one of his hands wound back into my hair and stopped me. And he says, are you sure you want me to come back? Or did you really want me to die? So now he's like, you wanted me to die.
And in the middle of it, because she's not kissing him back. Like, he wants her to. He threatens again. Do you want me to die? Oh, my God. And she gets pissed and kisses him back. And then he gets, and she's like angry. So she wants, so she goes to like pull him away after this. And he takes that as like passion. And so he goes like harder. And that's when they fall. And this is even worse. So she was trying to pull him off. Angerly trying to pull him off. He takes it as passion. So
he goes further. And then she said, this was the moment she realized she was in love with them. Maybe that's not love. Because he felt like such joy from like maybe that's not loving that. That's Stockholm. So yeah, I said, whoa, that's that's something. I have to wonder because obviously like I've read that quote, that's definitely wrote on her website like in 2007, I do have to wonder in today's lens if she if she would feel differently about I do wonder that like about thinking
Jacob is correct in all of his feelings. Because I understand like when I first saw this when I read this kind of thing when I was younger, you know what I mean or like whatever. Yeah, like I can understand people when they first read this when they younger thinking this is like just so all consuming. Yeah, like very like weathering heights kind of thing. And which he did this is inspired partly by weathering heights. Well, Stephanie Meyer said she doesn't even like weathering heights.
Oh, but like Heathcliff and uh, is it Edgar and Heathcliff? I've never seen a very people will compare
Jacob and Edward to them a lot. And and Heathcliff is like a dick. I know it's similar. Yeah, but it's like that you these things I I can understand why they get seen as like these passion it over. But when you really dig at them, it just is really gross. And it's like these these moments are really gross and they're not healthy. Right. And they should stay in fiction. Yeah.
“We've like we talked about this before. I forget when I talked to oh, I think I talked about this”
when I did the event with Elizabeth Arnaut at unlikely story. We were talking about how like it's wild when people like especially when women will fall in love with like serial killers. It's like going like married them. Um, it's hybrastophilia. It's Bonnie and Clyde syndrome. Mm-hmm. And um, I was saying how cr like I just can't run my brain around it because in my mind, I can at least sit there and and know the difference. But because I love villains, like a fiction
villains. Right. And I know that that doesn't work in real life. A villain doesn't work in real life. I've dated a villain. It doesn't work in real life. And it's like so you find that out. And we and it takes people a long time trust me. I was in my 20s being like the villain will work out one in real life. What are we thinking about? I can fix them. But it's like so I do wonder if like you look back on it now if she could look back on it now if she's like, you know what? That wouldn't.
Well, because again, it's fiction.
But I think the problem in that scenario is Jacob is not written as a villain. That is a big
problem that is overarching in this series. Right. No one's not presented as a villain. He is acting like this. How a villain would act. But he's not presented in that way. No, he's presented in like all poor Jacob. Yeah, just loves her so much. And it's true. He's really getting the shit under the stick here. Let's feel bad for him. Yeah. And it's like, no, he's acting like a fucking
“himself. Yeah. It's true. I think that is part of the problem is it's not given to you on a plate”
as a villain where you can accept it. No, you could buy a fucking t-shirt back in the day. Yeah, a team Jacob. Of course. Because you were like rooting for him to be the one that joined that episode. Right. And it's like, that's the thing. Like, if you're presenting
me a villain, like you're presenting me, Eric Northman. He's a good. He's very much a villain.
He's a villain through and through. He is ruthless. He is like, he's poor decisions. Like, I should make it bad. And they are saying he is a villain about it. So it's like, you can be like, yeah, like, let's make him do villainous. And you could be a team Eric, like, in a silly, fun wife. Exactly. Because you're like, well, he's a villain. But also, I think the other problem, too, is this is YA. Yeah. This isn't, like, this was, am I correct? Why? Yeah. Like, yeah. So that's not,
you can't present Jacob like this. And the audience is impressionable. Right. Like, more impressionable than an adult audience. I read this and was like, oh my god, that's kind of sexy. You're like, I'm like, oh my god, as an adult. Like, holy shit. What that's a salt. Yeah. You know, like,
“you really, you have to think, like, young girls are reading this and they might be in an experience”
like that. And then they're just going to be like, well, maybe I'm in love with this guy. Yeah,
maybe I am. And maybe he's right. Like, that's why these things happen. It's true. It's not okay. No, it's so true. I hate it. Can we talk about the bracelet? Let's move on a little bit. Oh my god, the fucking bracelet. Okay. So at, is it the post graduation party? Yeah, that's the graduation party. He shows up. And this is that. She hasn't seen him after she punished her face because he kissed her. And she literally like banned him from being anywhere near him. She was like,
stay the fuck away from him. Yeah. So he rolls up to her graduation party, which is rude because he was uninvited. He was. And he's like, I'm sorry. Like, I know what I did was wrong. But I did bring you gift. He brings her a fucking bracelet where he's like, whittled a wolf charm together to represent him. I'd be like, and she's just wears such it. You're a narcissist. Yeah. I got to wear you around. No, that's the thing. Like what the fuck? But she is. And it's like a tag. Like it's
really like your mind. If there could have been an air tag in it, there would have been. And then she wears it in front of Edward. And it's just like, yeah, like, Jake made it for me. And wearing it, like, you're in the colonthouse. You're in the colonthouse and not in the mortal enemies. She's wearing it.
“I think, like, on the mountain after they've been engaged. Yeah. And not wearing her engagement ring.”
Mama, that's the other thing. You're not wearing your ugly ass engagement ring. And you're wearing your ugly ass wolf pendant. The fuck? It's the way and let like that brings me right to how she reacts. Look at that. The marriage thing in the book, because in the in the movie, she's also like, she's more acting in the movie. I would say, like, she's worried what people are going to think. Yeah, because she, I think she even says like in the beginning. And like, obviously, it's like,
kind of shitty. But she's like, when you think when people exaggerate, get married. In the book, it is very much like Edward is forcing her to get married. She is not in any way shape or form into this. And one point, during their like romantic night together, where it's supposed to be romantic, but holy shit, it does not. And it's like just the way that she's thinking. We'll get there. She says like, she's they're talking about it. They're talking about like, you know,
like they're talking about like the whole thing of like, you're going, you know, are you going to agree to turn me? Are you going to fall through on your promise kind of thing? And she, he says at some point, he like finishes. She's like, oh, and now all of a sudden I'm and he says, you're engaged. And like he says it like, just being sweet, her response to that. Okay. Ew, please don't say that out loud. I'm not kidding. That's like right after they get engaged.
She literally says you're engaged. And she says, ew, please don't say that out loud. They're not around anyone else. Oh my god. They're not around anyone else. Can you imagine your mother fucking man just gets down on one knee? Yeah. You're beautiful. You're gorgeous. You look like Linda Vangelista. I was on the rest of my life with you. And you're like, oh my god. Yes. Yeah. And then he's like, oh, and then he's like, excuse me. He says,
Do fuck.
says, and he says, are you? And she goes, oh, no, I'm not. Are you happy now? Oh my god. And he just says,
exceptionally. Are you exactly happy? Be what? Be what? He has her. He says, are you happy? And she says a little bit. And then she says, but not about getting married.
“Here's the thing. It also makes no fucking sense that she's acting this way about getting married.”
You're obsessed with him. She literally, at one point in the movie says, I want to time myself to you in every human way possible. That's the most human way you can actually tie yourself. But then she also is like, it's just a piece of paper. Yeah. It's like, okay, one, no, it's not. It makes no sense. And during it's so positive. During that, that's same like night. Like right before
that. Ryan of a garbage is so detail. He, and he does it in the book too. It's like always happens
in both while they're making out. She is trying to get things going. And he literally says, Bella stopped trying to take your clothes off. I would find the nearest body of water and walk all the way into that would send me into psychosis. I would go into psychosis. I would diverge. I couldn't, I would diverge because I never wanted. I would never recover from that. If you're getting freaky with your man, and he says, stop trying to take your clothes. Oh my God.
What are you? What is it? What a fucking bullet through my head. Wait, he says it is so fucking disgusting to stop trying to take, like you are. That's essentially what he sounds like he's saying there. He's like, no one wants to see you. No one wants to see that. I'd, I'd go to cardiac arrest and go on. I cannot with that. That stresses me out in a way that I literally can't even deal with. No, I really need it. I can't deal with it.
Okay, so that's like, that's like the Bella and the Jacob and the manager of it all. We also have to talk about like the whole premise. Basically, like the overarching premise is that Victoria is back and she wants to kill the shit out of Bella. Yeah, and here's one thing about me. Okay, talk to me. So the way that she does that, because you know, like Alice is like listening to her thoughts, yeah, if she needs to get some people to do her bidding. Yeah, new vampires, so she finds this guy
Riley, Riley, and she turns him. And at first, when I saw Riley that running down the street, I was like, okay, like whatever, there he is. Yeah, and then they show him as a vampire and I said,
I mean, it's really hot. I was like team Riley. Yeah, I, I seemed to always be team Riley. He's very
team Riley during Buffy too. Yeah, Finn, come on. But I love him as a vampire. I agreed. Didn't get enough of him as far as I'm concerned. I know. What I love to have seen him be menacing to everyone else.
“Yeah, just so I'm lurking about a little bit. It's very kind of like glazed over. I think that's”
one of the bigger problems, too, is like, I don't quite understand why she needs an army of vampires. I don't understand that. Yeah, because she could sort of just use Riley. I guess she wanted like, I know, that's the thing. I feel like she could just use Riley. But then maybe she wanted like a bigger layer of protection. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Did you come across anything in the illness? No, it's just kind of like the same kind of, it's more that she was, she is not going to put
herself at risk, so she will do anything to make sure she's padded with enough. So maybe that's what it is. She needs like reinforcements. Because the whole thing is, I think Alice, the reason Alice can't see that this is going to happen is because she hasn't met Riley before. I think in order for Alice to see like your path, she has to know you. That makes it, which makes sense,
“because otherwise she'd just be seeing paths left and right. Yeah, I think that makes sense for sure.”
And I think in the book, and in the illustrated guide as well, we see that Riley is like really struggling with, because Victoria's pretending to love him, to get him to make him very loyal. Right. And so, but he's struggling with it, not sure if she's telling the truth. But he's like really obsessed with her loving him and like needing to know that he does. And I think we didn't get enough of that in the movie. You don't want to get a lot of it at all. It would have been nice to see that
and because then at the end, when Riley shows up and is listening to Edward try to tell him, like, she doesn't love you. Like, you're from Forksboro. Like, you know the area. That's the only reason she grabbed you. Right. And you can see it like hitting. Yep. But then it just kind of doesn't.
Like, when he says, you're dead.
But all that did it. I thought that was kind of lame. I got to love to it. Okay. I wanted
“it to go further though. I think it's that kind of cut off right now. It does. And also, like, the”
way he dies though is cool. It is because the wool is a Jacob that comes. No, I think it's stuff. I have no idea. All the wolves just become the thing is a little baby stuff. Well, he just like rips his hand off. And I love the way they break like glass. Yeah. It's not really normal. Well, and then I think if we had gotten more of him being like in the movie, being like so obsessed with Victoria and like being so insecure and having this like undying loyalty. Like, you get a little
bit of it in the movie. I just thought it could be a little further because I think then the end scene would have hit a little harder. You would have felt more like, oh fuck, man, like you were like, you would have felt a little bit more like that when you were just kind of like, oh, that sucks, bro. Like, I was just going to like buy it. Yeah. And I think he was very good at being menacing.
“Yeah, I think so. Because that shot of them all coming out of the water could have gotten really”
fucking super hokey. Okay. And he's scary in it. Like his face is scary. He's for sure, scary in it, but that shit is funny. That's the thing. It's like he was more menacing. I think because he had like, he's played by Xavier Samuel. I think he did agree. I think he would be really good at a villain. I think a bad guy because he had menacing vibes to him. He just wasn't given enough to work with as far as I'm concerned. Yeah. But yeah, I loved I thought when they shattered into glass,
I'm kind of obsessed with it. Especially when Victoria does ultimately get killed. Yeah,
but I'm also, oh, she, the hers is so cool. hers is really cool. And it literally looks like crystal. Yes. And, but which is cool. But I also wonder sometimes why Stephanie Meyer overcomplicated some of her lore because she really wrote herself into like, she wrote herself into corners sometimes. Yeah. Because like, they're like supposedly supposed to be like,
“a stone marble. Yeah. That's why they're cold. That's why I'll that and like, the hard”
Bob Bob Bob Bob. That's why they're clinking when they have to. That's why they're clinking. I'm going to have to listen to his family clinking. Got to follow Sarah Gallagher on all the talk. I said this in the other ones, but keep doing it because she's so fun. It was straight that with bowls and she'll be like, this is all they hear. She's clinking some together and it's so funny. But also, they cannot, there's several layers to this. They only kiss closed mouth in the book. Yeah. Because one,
he has marble hard lips. So in one of the in the beginning of the book, she says, and I and I quote, if I had my way, I would spend the majority of my time kissing Edward. I don't know. She says, there wasn't anything I'd experienced in my life that compared to the feeling
of his cool lips. Marble hard, but always so gentle, moving with mine. Marble hard.
Like, that doesn't sound fun. It doesn't sound fun. And then on top of that, they can't open their mouth to kiss the venom because venom is every single one of their body, bodily fluids, including their soul of saliva. Right. So they can't make out. Yeah. So it's like, why did you do that? Like, why did you make it? And I think, and again, I think this is like a, we're bringing the, the desire kind of thing to like a breaking point kind of because like,
can't even, like, even, milk kiss. You have not even made out. Well, I'm also just like, if you, like, you want to spend all your time. Are you just like, that's that they're literally just going pecking over and over again because that doesn't sound very enjoyable. And I'm like, that's not, and they couldn't do that in the movie. So they were like, you know what, fuck the venom thing. We're just going to like have to make out. And wait, it's like, when they
can't translate it into film, because it's that wild. Yeah. That you got to rethink that one. Like, that one, that one's just like, I'm surprised nobody was like, we should rethink this one because it causes a lot of problems later. Like, that's just, that's a lot. Like, I don't understand, I'm like that. I feel like that could have been taken out. Yeah. I don't think all their saliva needs to be venom. And again, like, she's, you know, she's Mormon. So it's like, there's a lot of,
like, very chaste and, you know, like abstinence, in favor of abstinence before marriage, kind of undertones that we all know are flying throughout this. Yes. And I think this just adds to it, because it's like not only can they not fuck, but they can't even open mouth kiss, because he's got venom in his mouth while. Like, it's, it really is. It's like, such as it does the venom get into her mouth
a little bit in the first one and doesn't she, like, almost pass out or something?
No, I don't think they know because they don't, they don't follow that lore. Like, at least from the
Mouth.
And you know, I mean, in the book, doesn't something weird happen in the book where she almost
passes out when they kiss? Oh, yeah. She does almost pass out when they kiss, but I don't know,
“I think that's literally, it's just because she, because they don't own my mouth kiss. That's her path.”
And I think we talked about it. She was almost passing out just from a marble hard tight-lipped kiss. Fuck. Yeah. So then again, when I look at it that way, and then I say, okay, so when you start making out with Jacob for four pages and you could actually make out with him, you probably did fall in love with him in that moment. Really did you fall in like holy shit. Like, what is this? Yeah. Like, what's going on? But yeah. So that's, that's wild. That's wild. Yeah. And then we still have
Confederate Jasper, Confederate Jasper gets more Confederate. Oh, he gets, he, he's, he's,
he's calling people, my hand. My hand suddenly gets more subtle. Real, real, spectacular all. Yeah. And only in some parts, though, only sometimes. Yeah. And when he does, he's just so proud to be a Confederate. So, so proud to be the youngest major in the Texas
“Calvary. I mean, a lot about his age. I said, why, why? Why? Why? Because that's, it's like he can”
be from the South, from that time period. Yep. And you could do so many different things. You could bend it up and you could have made him just, you know, from, you could have made him from a really fancy ass family. Yeah. And he's just a southern gentleman. You know, or you could have made him be so that, like, he was in the war on the Confederate side, unwillingly. Yeah. And that that he carries that. And that he says, I wasn't for the cause. And it haunts me every day that I
had to be part of that. And maybe that's part of why he, he has that power of like that feeling, what other emotionally. Yeah. Like, feel, I'm not exactly like, you could make that a part of his past. And nobody's saying that you, you pretend the civil war didn't happen to pretend that Confederate soldiers don't exist. Like, I don't, there's many ways to make that something in his past that you could get away from it. But they just, just whole chest to make him not only a
Confederate soldier, a proud past Confederate soldier, but he is so psyched to bring that shit up. Yeah. When he's talking to Bella about this, he says, when I was human, I lived in Houston, Texas. I was almost 17 years old. I was almost 17 years old. When I joined the Confederate Army in 1861, I lied to the recruiters and told them I was 20. I was tall enough to get away with it. Jesus Christ. And then he says, my military career was short lived, but very promising.
People always liked me. Listen to what I had to say. My father said it was charisma.
But he says the Confederate Army was new and scrambling to organize itself. So that provided opportunities as well. Oh. And I'm like, so we're, like, we're, he's just like, yep, killed it. Loved it. Let's do it. I'm going to use my skills from there for this, because even in the same scene, he's explaining to Bella how he was turned. And he's turned by this woman named Maria. And he was, she was this Mexican woman that he had met while he was in
the Confederate Army. And he's talking about it. And he says her features were clearly Mexican, but she was pale as marble in the moonlight. And it's like, there's a lot wrong with the, there's so much happening there. But I'm also like, they even doubled down there by saying, and in the book and in the movie, they doubled down there by saying, even though this woman could have had, like, like, brown skin or olive skin or some type of, like, you know,
complexion that is different from pale white, right? She didn't, right? No matter what, you don't care, they're just pale white. Yep, you're pale white. As you're talking about a Confederate soldier being turned by, it's just, there's so much, and I'm just like, this is so weird. It is. It's weird that it just gets passed over. And then it's weird that, like, we're supposed to love him in Alice, but I'm like Alice, what the fuck, he's a Confederate soldier. Like,
I don't, like, you got any, and he's still proud of it, babe. Not, not once have I heard that man,
“say, I wouldn't join today. You know, like, well, that's the thing. That's, that's what”
needed to be there is, like, I am this great soldier, and that, you know, I can, you know, would have been perfect. Had he struggled leading? Yeah. Because the whole thing is, like, Jasper's helping them. Yeah, like, make an army together to face the newborn vampire or army. It would have been even better if he struggled getting back into that role, because he had so many regrets. Exactly. It's like, so that he just, he had all this regret, he has all this,
like, shame on his shoulder. Yes. And also the Confederacy lost. So he wouldn't technically be a
Great leader because period.
let's just be real about it. It's just trails coming out. It just feels history, baby. It is.
“Uh, but it's like, why did I, I think I just don't understand why. Why was it brought into”
his present? Why is he proud of it? Yeah. Why is it a part of everything you could have had, because I don't see something wrong with having somebody in that time period because it's a vampire. They're going to be from all different time periods. Yeah. And people are different in different time periods. So I can see having somebody who was a Confederate, I will even give you that, which is giving a lot. Because I personally wouldn't do that, but I can at least try to wrap
my brain around it. Like having it be historically accurate. Historically accurate, having that be his past and having that be part of him becoming what he is today. Yep. That's the thing, though, make him grow. Yeah. And I don't, when he's sitting there being my hell, yeah. Like, I was stuck into a youngest major in the Texas out Calvary. It's like, buck. There's like, I don't know about
“that. Like, I just don't know about that. It's not good. So that was weird. I thought that was a whole”
weird thing. Another backstory that gets revealed is Rosalie's. Yes. Rosalie's. And this really has a lot to say about. Rosalie's is awful. It's, but I love her fucking revenge arc. I absolutely love her revenge arc. I don't think we got enough of it. No, I don't think we did it either. I would like, this is where it is. So that I can watch her slaughter all of those. Oh, it would have been said. I wish. Oh, one thing I noticed in the book, uh, and I forgot about this. Rosalie's
far more palatable in the book to, to Bella. Oh, she's nicer. Okay. She's not nice, but she's like nicer. nicer. She's more like respectful and less mean girl in the book. I feel like she's got mean girl energy. But like Nikki Reed, I think, plays her. I, I almost, I like her Rosalie. Yeah. And the book Rosalie. Yeah. Because I think Nikki Reed does like just fuck you all. So well, like, she has that perfect delivery and perfect face for it. Like, she can give such good expressions.
So it is different to see Rosalie be so different book and in movie. But we get the, we get her back story because she kind of storms out when, uh, at least in the movie when Bella's talking about being turned. Mm-hmm. When Bella's kind of like being weird with them and about it. She's looking fluttering. I was like, you're like, maybe don't do that. She would annoy me to be quite honest. She was talking right to my, to my man's like, yeah. But Rosalie in the book is talking about
“Angie, you know, she goes on. She tells her, like, this is why I don't think you should be so”
excited about being turned into a newborn. Yeah. And she tells the backstory. She says she came from like a middle class family. She was married. But she said she was a look up. That was what she had going for her. She was the most beautiful girl that anyone had ever seen. And she even says in the book, which I literally wrote WTF. She wrote, she was pleased. And she says, pleased that men's eyes watched me everywhere I went from the year I turned 12. Oh, and I said not good. That's upsetting.
But that aside, uh, she talks about how she was, you know, hooked up with this really fancy son of a banker, Roy King. And Roy King and her, we're going to get married. They were going
to have a lavish wedding. And she says she was never jealous of anybody because she was a fucking
diamond. What does she have to be jealous of? She says except my friend Vera. She says my friend Vera was married to a good man. And she had a little boy. And she says she's saying like, Vera was like, fine. Oh, she, she says that later. She doesn't say that later. But she says, and Vera had a little boy. So she was a mother. And she said she wanted that. And she's like, and I was jealous for the first time. I felt jealous. And she, but she's like, you know what,
she's like, and I, you know, I went to her house one night. And as we were leaving, her husband, when he thought I wasn't looking gave her like the sweetest kiss on the cheek. And she said in for a minute, I thought, like, Royce doesn't do that. Like, that's not. And then she was like,
but whatever, like, I'm going to have kids someday with Royce, and it'll be amazing. I've got the
future that I want. And this father, this is just like a writing thing. Probably because I'm like deep in writing right now. So I'm like, very, I'm, they're picking out writing. But she wrote, Royce was my prince some day. I would be queen. And I said, you're going to be his mom. Yeah. Like that's, somebody should have caught that. Somebody should have been like, oh, nope, you either have to be the princess or he has to be king. Yeah. Like you kid that, because I was like,
that's, that doesn't make sense. No. And that's an hippie in the book. But I'm like, nah, but I get that. I was like, he's not just weird. Like I don't get it. Don't be his mama. But she says that, you know, she was leaving that night. And she happened to run into Royce and
His friends who were drinking on a street corner.
future wife isn't she hot. And they're like, she's wearing too many clothes. And they literally,
like, they assault her. Yeah. Like, is it like the night before she's to be married? I think it's soon. Yeah. At least they rape her and they brutally assault her and leave her to die. Like in the street on the ground. And I think, and at one point, it says that in the book, he says that when, when they were leaving, she could hear them literally saying, like, you're going to have to find a new wife, I guess. Because they were like, oh, she's dead. We killed her.
“That's like, that's how little they cared. Nice. And what she does is she ends up getting turned”
by Carlisle, who comes across her, believing in the book. She's met Carlisle is the town doctor. Oh, okay. And she doesn't like him. Oh. And she doesn't like him because she said, him, his wife, as may and who are they were saying, as may and Edward, we're a sister and brother. Right. And so that she said that they all were more beautiful than her and it irritated her that the men were more beautiful than her. So she didn't like him. Oh, looks at.
And she says, so what do you talk about? So what she comes to save her, she's like, what the thoughts are like, of course, these fuckers are these. These more beautiful fucks are going to save me. So of course, Carlisle turns her into vampire Rosalie. This really got me because she says, she woke up and she says, shallow as it was, I felt better when I saw my reflection in the mirror
the first time. Despite the eyes, I was the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen. It took some time
before I began to blame the beauty for what had happened to me for me to see the curse of it, to wish that I had been, well, not ugly, but normal, like Vera. So I would have been allowed to marry someone who loved me and have pretty babies. Oh, imagine reading your best friend to feel like that. Well, I don't think you just read your best friend to feel like that, but you're literally saying that hot girls have it coming. And it's like, I'm sorry, what? That's you being beautiful.
I had nothing to do with the fact that you were raped by multiple men and killed and left to, or like almost killed and left in the streets. And everything to do with bad men. Yeah, has nothing to do with how beautiful. Not there. Holy shit. Holy shit. In a better way to do that would have had her sit there and say, I blamed me for it. Right. I started to blame me for it, but then I realized it was in my fault. It's pig ass men who
“did it. And that's what I had. Like that's when I attacked them because then after that,”
she says, this is so good. I picked them off one by one. And in the book, she's like, I've only killed five humans in my life. And she's like, it was all of them. And then she says, and she says, I didn't,
I've never drank the blood of a human. She says in the book, she's the only one besides Carlisle,
or no, as me. Okay. That hasn't drank the blood of a human. And she says, and when she says, I've killed five humans. She was like, but I don't want their blood of me. Like, fuck that. And she says, and she says, as she's saying, I left Royce for last because he knew I was coming because all of his friends had been murdered before him. She goes, so I killed five humans and then she goes, oh, seven, just kidding, because of the dormant. I was like, that's amazing. I was like,
I love that. Oh, he's like in seven. He's just kidding. But I love to that she left him for last. Left him for last and then banged that door down wearing a fucking wedding dress. That is some ready or not type shit. And when she says, I was more theatrical back then, I love it. Mickey read eats that line too. She eats, because you can see in her eyes that she's like, reminiscing. She's like, thinking about it. Like, that was great. Oh, how fun. You know, like,
fact, that's love it. I wish we got love so much more of that in the movie. I just love to see all of their backs. I want to see Alice. I want to see all of them. I mean, I could, we saw, I'm like, you get me Jasper's and you don't give me anyone else. Alice is so sad. She was like, locked away my parents. And I would love to see gift. Yeah. Like, I want to see Emmett when the fuck I'm in the movie. It's show me of it. Emmett was getting like molded by a band. Yes, show me that.
“You know, show me what's going on. And then as may I think, as Mesa's really sad,”
she, according to the illustrated guide, um, I think her son died. Oh, yeah, jumped off a cliff. Yeah, there was like crazy. Yeah, that was really sad with that one. It's, yeah, I would love to see that because I, I thought that was awesome. Yeah. And I just, and it, I like how it gave you like a little, I do love that they gave you a little more to why Rosalie is the way she is. I do too, because she's like, why would you give up? Yeah, my dream. She doesn't do it in the movie,
but in the book, she talks about how she, because Bella's like, well, why the fuck did you?
Why do you hate me?
And she's like, well, she says that. And then she says, and also, she was like, I hate to do, like, she's like, I'm not trying to like be stupid now. And she was like, but she was like, it annoyed me that, uh, Edward thought you were better than I was, because they were originally
“going to be together. They were, I think Carlisle had wanted a companion for Edward, but Edward wanted”
nothing to do with that. And she says she was like, he wanted, he never showed interest. And she was like, and to be honest, I thought he was annoying too. Like, I don't want to be with him. And she's like, I still don't. And she's like, it's not because I want to be with him. I've just never been
the second best. I've never been turned. I've never been the, not the most beautiful. She's like,
I've never been the Vera. Yeah. I'm not the, I'm the Vera now. Like, what the fuck is that? I'm the normal looking. Yeah. No fuck that. Like, she's like, I hate it. But she and she even says something in the book about how like, when they met the, uh, was it the Denali tribe? Oh, yeah, yeah. And she says, like, it's all females. And like, I thought, you know, like, and she and he didn't show any interest in any of them either. And like, what the fuck? Like, we were like,
what's going on until you came. And later Bella's like super insecure about that. And it's like, did they show interest in you? Like, who's that? And then we find out that one of them did, like,
“and I think she comes and freaking done. I think we see her. Oh, shit. I'm pretty sure. I don't remember”
any of that. I can't remember who it is, but interesting. But yeah, I love Rosalie's backstory, except for the fact that she's like, you know, one of it was just because I was too hot. If I had been ugly, I would have been fine. It's like, whoa, everybody's flawed. That's, that's not it at all, babe. Speaking of like, relationship dynamics, though, we should talk about, um, Emily and Leah. Oh, fuck yeah, we should. Got some of that up story. Yeah. So Sam is like the leader of the
pack, the alpha. And he's Mary, or I think engaged. Yeah, Emily. And she's the one, like, last time we were talking about, like, she has the scar in her face. She was too close to her money phase once.
And now, I think this is the first time that we're introduced to Leah in the book and the movie.
Yeah. And she has phased and remember her phasing killed her father. Yeah. He had a hard check. So she gave him a hard attack because he didn't think that, like, a girl could phase. Yeah, because previously it was all just the boys that did. So she originally dated Sam for three years in high school. Her, and this is all according to the illustrated guide. Her junior year of high school,
“he just went missing because I think, like, weird chip was happening in him. Happening to him because”
he was going to be phasing soon and then he did. He comes back after he's phased and is being, like, super duper secretive with Leah and won't tell her anything, won't say where he was, like, nothing. And then he goes to a barbecue at her house with her family and Emily. Her second cousin is there and, like, best friend. And literally, yeah, it literally says they were raised, like, sister. Yes. Like, they spent all of their free time together, like, bestie girls. He sees
Emily at this party as he's holding Leah's hands and in Prince on Emily drops Leah's hand and walks over to Emily and is like, what the fuck is up, girl? I'm, what the fuck, now this is all according to the illustrated guide. Yeah, she goes so deep into it. I actually do recommend it. This is the first time that I've looked at it. I'm going to myself. So at first, Emily's, like, fuck, no, that's, like, super messed up to my bestie girl cousin, sister Leah. What the fuck?
Like, I would never do that to her. But then she just, like, can't really help herself. It seems.
Well, that, that night, he leaves the party in the next day. He breaks up with Leah. Yeah, like, I'm not inexplicably. And then starts pursuing Emily. Emily's like, what the fuck? And she tells Leah, Emily, it's like, what the fuck? And in the illustrated guide, it's like, she can't help herself, but be attracted to Sam either. And I was like, but that's not how you set imprinting up to work. It's not supposed to work that way. Because it's supposed to be like the wolf is the one
that's imprinted and like, he's the one who can't stop. In fact, and I'll find it because what the fuck, I have a note here that says imprinting is fucking gross. Well, because while you're looking for that, in the illustrated guide, it also says that it is physically painful for Sam to be away from Emily now that he's imprinted on her. Yeah. Like, he can't be far away from her. After that, like that whole thing, when she, you know, they get together and all that. And Emily's like, yeah,
she's like, I was trying to keep it, you know, I couldn't stop. So we had to be together. And I just decided to portray my friend. And it's like, okay. And then she's like, I tried to make it, like,
Not super uncomfortable for her.
Emily, get fucked. Go fuck yourself. Get fucked. That is not girl's girl behavior.
“You're also kidding. And if I was Leah, I would say, I'd rather shoot my knee caps out,”
both of them myself than be in your wedding. So much fuck yourself. Guess what? I hope it sucks. Okay. But we'll not be there. No, I'm not going to buy an ugly dress for your fucking wedding to my ex-boyfriend. You absolute trash asshole. Like, are you kidding me? I would. Oh my god. You fucking dick muncher? Like, I would go Walter Frey, Walter Frey, and we run ready wedding and she said, I'd kill them all. I would shop and chain mail. And I'd be like, let's go!
Get the reins of cast of me or play in everybody. And then I brought away on a doll. Fuck you fuck you all. I was so mad for her. And I read that The Illustrated Guide. I was like, fuck you, Emily. So then in the book, speaking of imprinting, in the book, Jacob mentions that I'm sorry. I'm just pictured in the room chain mail. Yeah, as Walter Frey. Just striking up the band. Let's go. You gotta play reins of cast of me or you do. So,
Quill, one of the wolf pack, has met the lovely lady with which he's going to a print upon. He's imprinted on one of their cousins, Claire, and they're like, yeah, so they're just like, kind of, like, Emily doesn't really want him around Claire. And then Belle is like, Belle is like, well, that's weird that Emily would be like, weird about him being a wolf. Like, it's she being like stupid. Like, she being gay. She was like, what the fuck? And he's like, well,
no, it's because Claire is two years old. And I was like, and then he goes, don't be judgmental. Don't be judgmental. Okay. Don't be judgmental. I'm calling the authorities. Like, what do you mean, don't be judgmental? Hello, 911. That's insane. Hello, are you good? What? And then he tried he gets real defensive about this. Like, this is, I'm like, I'm sorry, if part of your whole vibe in aura is that your, your people, fucking imprint on babies. Yep. And that there's no man imprinting
on a boy. There's no girl in there. There's no same sex. So it doesn't apply romantic. And also,
they imply romantic things here. Even though they say there isn't, they always end up together.
Yeah. And that's the goal. So it's like, there is romantic share. It's predatory. You know that.
“And so he and he gets so defensive about it. I'm like, I'm sorry, you need to be a little more”
open to the fact that this is going to fucking horrify. Everybody you tell. Absolutely. You need to understand that. And so he says, she's like, yeah, that's really fucking creepy. Like, I'm not going to lie to you, bro. Yeah. And he's like, it's not like that. You've got it all wrong. And then he says, I've seen what it's like. There's nothing romantic about it at all. Not for Quill, not now. And I'm like, nope, that's still predatory. Because he's just waiting until she's up.
And he says, that's still weird. That's even weird or almost. And it says, it's hard to describe. It's like, it's not like love at first sight, really. It's more like gravity moves. When you see her suddenly, it's not the earth holding you here anymore. She does the two-year-old. And you're telling me that's not weird. What the fuck? You're telling me that two-year-old who just
“shit her pants is holding you to the earth. No, and she is. Like, that's what I'm like.”
It literally in the illustrated gods. It said, from the inside, there could be nothing more pure
than Quill's feeling. Shut the fuck up. That's definitely you would never do anything to hurt her
at any way mentally or physically. I'm like, mentally, she might be fucked up. But it's telling me, mentally, okay? But it was mandated by the bond between them. All the wolves could experience the nature of his feelings for her. So they knew exactly how deep it was. But also how platonic it was. No, but they knew it was something that outsiders would not be able to understand. So they kept the imprinting as secret as possible. Almost like that's even more possible. Really nefarious.
But Quill could only be content with his situation as long as as long as Claire was happy and safe. He was satisfied with life. No. And this is the thing that like, no, is totally platonic. Really? Because what does this mean? When he's saying there isn't, you know, there isn't a toddler on the planet that will be more carefully looked after than that little girl will be. That's weird in predatory life. And then when she's older and needs a friend, he'll be more understanding,
trustworthy and reliable than anyone else she knows. And then when she's grown up, there'll be as happy as Emily and Sam. Okay. So you just don't get that with them fucking. So it was a lot of the end up with more like a brother and a sister. Why can't they not? Because it's not platonic.
I'm like, do you know what platonic mean?
what they always end up together. That's the goal. The goal is for them to end up together. And I
“hate that they present it like that's not the case. I'm like, that's why the fuck did you make that up?”
Why did you make that a reason that she, I don't even know? Because I think she needed somebody other than Jacob to imprint on a child. Harfying, which is fucked. That why did you need to imprint at all? Why does this need to be a thing? Great question. It's weird. In the illustrate, God. It literally says of lesser concern was the fact that so many members of the pack were imprinting. According to legend, imprinting was a rare event that the majority of wearwolves would never
experience. Yes. But suddenly everybody's imprinting on everyone. They blame it on the columns. Oh, please. They say the pack theorized that the increase in imprinting frequency was due to the continued presence of the large colon come in. Their genetics of conscious was compensating for the constant vampire threat, pushing all of them towards paths that would result in a strengthened wearwolf presence. But you know what that means? Procreation, which again point
to them creating babies by fucking, which means they are not platonic. Well, and also, of course,
that theory was dependent upon the truth of their first theory that imprinting existed in order
to pass on the wearwolf gene. A theory that in light of Jacob's imprinting experience has been called into question. This is what I'm talking about. You're just by predicting the shoe that we just contradict the shoe that we just contradict. Yeah, there's something I just read, contradiction, contradiction, because you are saying the whole point of imprinting is to keep that vampire gene going by fucking. First, spreading seed. That's not platonic. First,
you're saying imprinting is super duper rare and doesn't happen. Then you're saying it's the colon's fault, and now it's to spread seed, unfortunately, but at the same time it's somehow platonic. And also to continue on the legacy, but then it's not because Jacob imprints on a vampire human. Yeah, named Runezme, named Runezme Carly. That's the other kind of thing. And we talk about Charlie in real life together. So that whole one last thing before we go there, go girl. That gave me crazy.
Is Bella in when she tells them about Claire at the two-year-old? Yeah, two-year-old. That has no choice in this matter. She says doesn't Claire get a choice here, period. And he says, of course, but why wouldn't she choose him? And I said, "Okay, you can take several fucking seeds right now. Why wouldn't she choose him?" Because she's too, I don't know. And he's another men on the planet. And she might like someone better. Because he's an adult. That is known her since she was born.
He's a weird uncle. He's a weird fucking uncle. That's waiting in the wings to date you. That's weird. Of course she doesn't have to choose him. And it's just like showing like they don't
“have a choice. Because their only choice here is to one given to it because why wouldn't she?”
Yeah. And if you choose not to, then now you have just destined this poor man to a life of loneliness because he, you are his one true person. Not only loneliness, if you don't end up in your him, if like in physical location, he will be in physical pain. And that's the thing. So it's like, so it is totally on this woman. Yeah. Now, oh, excuse me, this two-year-old. No pressure. That if she doesn't go with this and doesn't fall in love with him, that he now is just going,
you've destined him to loneliness for the rest of his life to be alone. And him pain. Yep. Babe, what the fuck is up with that? Come on. Well, the fuckers up would come on. So while we were reading all of that, we were like, and then the Renaissance may have all which of it all, which we're going to get to in part two. Yeah. Or in breaking down. In breaking down, but before we get there, so we were just saying that. Obviously, Renaissance is the combination
of their mom's names. Yeah. And then Carly, Carly is her middle name, according to the guide,
“which is a combination of the dad's names. So I said, what would my child's name be in that case?”
It's pretty iconic. Are you guys ready? I don't think you're ready. Donnie, Jo-to. Donnie, Jo-to goes so hard. Donnie, Jo-to. Hello. I am Donnie, Jo-to. Amazing. Donnie, Jo-to would be Carly, Dac. Carly, Dac, and Dany, Jo-to. Why did I sound like to like, Carly, Dac and Donnie, Jo-to? I feel like they could go on a random adventure together. I think they're like explorers. They are. I think so. I like that a lot.
I'm never going to be overdone. Donnie, Jo-to, Jo-to, goes so hard. I love it so much. It really does.
You know what, doesn't go hard? Donnie, girl. Fucking Victoria's hair in this. Okay, so let's talk about it. Let's talk about the switch-up. Who was the original actors that played? Rishelle Lafevera. Oh, yes. Because she's not in this one. She got recaptured. And it's interesting.
I was looking up like why she got recausted because she's literally like no, ...
Bryce Dallas Howard, whatever. No, she's just not Victoria. No, she's not. She's just not. She's not.
The original price. The original price. The original Victoria was perfect. Yes. So Rishelle ended up getting recausted because there were some like claws in her, um, in her contract, where she couldn't go do like another movie in the middle of filming. Yeah. Like for a super long time, but there was, it's, I mean, obviously I haven't looked at the contract, but she could, she could do like short stance. Yeah. So she accepted a movie that was going to be, I think there was like a couple days
overlap during the three-month period where they were going to be filming. Yeah, a clips. And apparently they were very upset about it, even though she was within her rights to do it and they were casted her. And she was shocked, I guess. I think that was the dumbest move imaginable.
“I do too because here's the thing. It was said to have only been a few days over a three-month”
filming course. Victoria's not even in the movie though. No, she's not. So you just sort of just filmed her scenes when she either like before she left or when she got back. And to not give her, she's built up this character for two to two years. And she's, she's Victoria. I think she's
amazing at it. And to not give her that end. That's so interesting. Because that's the thing too.
It's like, this is the end of her anyway. Yeah. So it's like, let her finish out the character. Like, I don't understand this how. Because also, no shade of Bryce Dahl's Howard. She did what she could do. They don't look alike. They don't look alike. And it's also like the hair drove me fucking crazy because Victoria's hair in the first two movies. She's like, feral. It's, well, and it's like, tassled. Like, and I live in the woods. I've been running through the woods,
“kind of like, big, wavy, just like, that's the thing. It's natural. It's like, no, it's waves.”
And it's like, it's just like, it's like, feral in like a gorgeous way. It's kind of like a fairy creature. Yeah. Like, she is a fairy creature. And it's like that. And it makes sense. And it works. And then in this one, they have it like super red. It's like, in spiral curled and crunchy. Like, she literally looks like she took moose and scrunched her hair. And it's shorter. And it just doesn't work. And it's not for hair. And I'm like, you just took me right out of that story line with that.
And they also like, it's again, no shade to Bryce Dahl's Howard, but she plays the role completely different than Rochelle did. It's like softer and like, not as edgy. And you know, she has a look of like, like, what? And she sounds like, and I feel like Victoria's like this
slinky cat like, yes. Like, and she's more, she is, I've never seen Victoria in the first two
book in the first two books or the first two movies. Be like, what? Like, why did I like, I'm sorry, Mr. Why? Like, that's the idea that the third one gives. And it just doesn't work. And you don't understand why somebody on set wasn't like, let's try that again. And like, yeah, like I don't understand. And even at the end, I was like, this isn't satisfying. Oh, because I haven't seen her in two movies. So it makes me upset. Yeah. I really didn't like that.
That I, I so wish that we had the end with the real Victoria. It's true. The real Victoria police stand out. Truly. And another thing in this movie, just to like close all this out is, Renee continues being the worst mother. Why is Renee not at graduation? She didn't come to graduation. And she gives Bella a gift when, because also Bella goes to visit her mom, because the Collins actually bought her round tip, round trip flight, because she's going to be changed soon.
So this is probably going to be the last time she sees her mom. Yeah. Because also apparently her
“mom's not coming to her fucking high school graduation. Or going to see her in college. Like, what?”
She was like, I'm not going to come visit you. I was like, look, she's like, well, Renee's a bit according to the illustrated guide, too, because she hates the, she hates the rain. Yeah. So if she's not near the sun, she can't, she just won't do it. Yeah. And it's like, get over it. So she and Charlie apparently like met while she was on a road trip. They got married. They had this like whirlwind romance. And he was taking care of his parents. His mom had Alzheimer's and his dad had some kind of
mobility issues. So they lived like down the street and were taking care of them. And then she just decided that she couldn't handle life and forks anymore. And she was experiencing postpartum depression, too, apparently. And also remember this is a fictional character. Yeah. So she up and left Charlie. And wanted him to move with her. And she literally said she knew it wasn't kind to ask him to abandon his parents. And what he wanted to do. So he was like, no,
I can't do that. He's also their only child. Yeah. So she was like, okay, well, like, I'm going to go move back to California. I'm going to take her baby and leave. And she did. Yeah. And then also,
She just like, wasn't really a mom when Bella was growing up.
Bella was doing their bookkeeping by age 10. Yeah. And her mom, like, never, like, didn't
“know how to cook. Like, wouldn't make the meals. Like literally didn't know. Like she had to do everything”
for herself. Like when you read the book and you read some of the things, like she, she was the printified child. Oh, absolutely true. It even says in the illustrated guide that she didn't object to Bella leaving because she knew that she would be okay in forks. Yeah. And like because she had found the new man's. Yeah, Phil. She's got her baseball player, Phil. It's like, and he's adventurous. Yeah. Yeah. That's like, wow. Your ship, mom. Yeah. Probably shouldn't have had good.
It's true. And you know what the last thing I have to say is I saw this pointed out by someone
“and I was like, I can't get over how much of a fumble this is that they didn't use the the line”
from the book, which is when Jacob and Bella are talking about like how he's like, you love me, but you love him. Like Boba. So they're talking about how like um, you know, he can deal with
like she's saying like, you know, I have all this stuff going on. And he's like, and basically
her first to them, it's like the clouds in my life. And he's like, I can deal with that he says the clouds I can handle. But I can't fight live in a clips. And Edward is the eclipse. Right. And that's why the book is named eclipse. Right. And I was like, why didn't you leave that in the movie? Yeah. It's a good line. It is. So I'm like that was a weird thing to skip. That's I feel like literally the perfect way to have this. Yeah. Look at you. I don't even know you're going to say about you.
clouds I can handle, but I can't fight with in a clips. Wow. How that is a great fucking line. It is a great line. I love going over these movies more than I love oxygen. Breaking Dawn part one and two is going to be so unhinged to that I can't even like this was subdued. Yeah, compared to what because we I think this just wasn't like our favorite one. Yeah, it's not my favorite one. So it really doesn't hit us hard. But breaking Dawn goes,
I also was just saying to Elena, I can't remember in the last time that I saw breaking Dawn. No, I can't either. I had last Halloween I watched Twilight, New Moon, and I watched half of a clips that were finished it. So we finished it for this. But breaking Dawn one and two,
I don't I the last time I saw those might have been the first time I watched them. Yeah.
“I can't remember that I've ever rewatched them. I don't know if I have. I'm so excited.”
This is going to be a real experience. And we're going to do two separate episodes. Yeah, we'll do two separate ones. We'll keep it going. Hell yeah. All right, brothers. Well, we'll see you then. And we hope you enjoyed this. We hope you did. And we hope you keep listening. And we hope you keep it. We. But that's a word that like you act like anyone in this book There it is. [laughs] [music]
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