How AI Is Rewriting the Future and The Forces Who Hold The Pen

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or are afraid to ask is Winton Hall, social media director for BrightBird News, and author of the new book, Code Red, The Left, The Right, China, and The Race to Control AI. So first of all, thank you so much for joining us. It's great to see you. It's great to see you.

It's always good to see you.

We're really interested in this on a lot of levels. The AI revolution has been dramatic.

“It's been shocking, I think, for a lot of people.”

It's scaring a lot of people, and your book looks at this from a very particular angle. And this is, from a political angle, can you, you know, big picture, can you unpack that force? Yeah, I really wanted to look at AI as not just a tool. We often hear it said it's just a tool.

It's actually political power, and the reason I wanted to do that is because I spent two years deep diving into this world and you realized that a lot of Americans just really don't know much beyond the obvious names, and certainly don't know the donation histories, the ideologies, the backgrounds of the AI architects that are remaking this world. You know, I think 99% of us use AI even though 64% of Americans don't realize when they're

using AI because it's baked into the algorithms of our weather apps and our streaming services

So we're already using AI. We don't get to opt out of this.

“And I think that the conservative movement has got to have a one-stop shop in a sense, and”

that's what the sort of idea was. Code read the title was actually a double meaning. Code read in the sense of an alarm or an alert flare, but also a code is set of principles for the red political side of the ball, the conservative movement, to be able to have to guide us through this because, you know, John, it's going to, it's going to be the

decider between what are racist jobs or creates jobs, indoctrination versus education and education, whether you come home alive or a dead on the battlefield with our AI warfare, accelerating right now. And so I really wanted to help to shorten everybody's learning curve and really learn who these people are, what is the real ideological agenda?

Yeah. So to that question, first of all, it does strike me. Most of us don't realize we're using AI, like you said, 64% don't realize we're using it. So the people that are behind this, in terms of the names that we do know, what don't we know that's behind the scenes.

So it's a great question. So first of all, you know, Peter Teele famously said that Silicon Valley is a one-party state and he's right, 85% of all political donations in Silicon Valley flow to the Democrats. There are obviously notable exceptions and a lot of heroic and sort of courageous libertarian slash conservative people that inhabit that space, even though they're outliers.

And there are sizable ones, the obvious, you know, of market reason, you know, Elon Musk and, you know, Peter Teele.

But the reality is that the people at the real forefront of this race, most of them have

a very deep ideological slant toward the left and have put their money where their mouth is. And they don't just view AI as a product or a tool. They look at it as a way to bring about a reset either economically, globally, certainly, even down to, you know, the transhumanism, merging of, you know, moving us past toward the

singularity, moving us past just regular human life. And so what I want to do is look at that.

“And I think one example I'll just give you.”

So in 2016, there was a young man, he was in his early thirties, and he went on a blog. And he said, "I want to do a longitudinal study." And I want to give a thousand dollars away to low-income people with no strings attached. No strings attached. This is what you and I would call universal basic income, right, UBI.

And he says, "I want to do this because I've been in the future, technology may require some kind of UBI."

Now he spent $60 million dollars.

The largest American UBI study ever done in American history. And then he dropped the mask. He said, "I also think that one day we will look at it as silly and odd that we ever thought that using fear of not eating should be the motivation for human flourishing and work." That's a paraphrase.

That's known as the Protestant work ethic, right? That's known as the thing that has driven free market capitalism. And that young man's name was Sam Altman. And Sam Altman was doing that in 2016. When was Shatchee Pity released November 2022?

Now why is he thinking almost six years ahead about massive wealth redistribution and universal basic income? It's because he has been a very dedicated Democratic supporter and donor for many, many years until the most recent Trump inauguration. There are many stories like that and so I really just go through this got 80 pages of

in notes. It's very nerdy.

I know you're always very thorough.

We love your footnotes. That's right.

“You know, I think one of the questions is, are these individual actors, individual companies,”

working individually in isolation, or is there a sense that there is a network forming that's mutually beneficial for some of these players? In other words, this can turn into something truly global and truly influence all parts of life easily. Is there, which is it?

Is this silos or is this a network? Yeah, it's more toward other network and there are different ecosystems. So within anthropic, which is Dario Amadez company, this is the one that we've recently seen with the word apartment and this battle over the contracts. They gravitate towards something called the effective altruist movement, the EA movement.

This is a very large and well-funded group and their primary aim is to bring about something called global AI global governance.

economic forum or you know, a UN-style global enterprise to regulate everything from

“DEI mandates inside of AI so that when you ask a borrowed your colleague Matt Walsh's”

famous phrase, "What is a woman?" When the AI comes back, if that is not giving the proper sort of DEI responses, that hate speech and therefore should that not be allowed. So they want to bring about global governance, not just on that kind of a level, but also with compute, meaning access to GPUs, graphics, processing units, the brain, if you will,

the chips that drive so much of AI innovation and so you have that ecosystem. You also have others who are more toward transhumanism, not transgender, but transhumanism, which is moving toward what they believe is the singularity, which is this moment when human and machine will become one and will be transcendent into almost a different species. This sounds like some craziness out of sci-fi, but this is very real, Ray Kurzweil and

many of the technologists really do want to accelerate AI in that direction. And so I have a whole discussion in code about faith and right now there are churches where they are setting up AI as a god. You have a lot of faith in this school aspect, just to get something to talk about and then hopefully it's a step.

Paul, no, not like that. Like a step is my safe space. Do you think all of that is possible? Yes, exactly. Like a step is like a step that is just a step, which is just a step, a step to the job or a step.

It's just like a step, like a step. Steuane led it, safe, Medviso Steuane, head to worship, there are confessional of AI Jesus where you confess in a confessional booth to an AI avatar and have it respond as a religious leader. It is going very far and very fast.

“And what I really think we have to do is coach ourselves up because like I said, we”

don't get to opt out of this. I think the conservative movement, one of the big challenges, we are not in a lot of these rooms because Silicon Valley is such a one-state place. Yeah, let's get to that. What do conservatives need to do?

What does that look like in the next few years? That's really a great question. First thing is we have to learn the lexicon and understand not at a tech level. You don't have to be a technologist to understand this. And what I really try to do is make it simple without being simplistic so people can really

understand the concepts. Again, I think we have to understand the backgrounds and motivations of these people, a lot of these are new names. I mean, all of us know who Bill Gates is, right? All of us know sort of Mark Zuckerberg.

But most people don't know who Mustafa Suleman is at Microsoft AI.

They may probably never even heard of that name.

Well, he's one of the most important people, or, you know, dimmus hospice, or, you know, Jeffrey Hinton, or a lot of these people, they don't really know. So we need to get acquainted with the characters, the cast of characters, and really just listen in their own words to what their motivations are. And then what we really need to do is understand this.

“And I think this is the most important thing, John, is that the policy matrix that the conservative”

movement has known is about to get completely remade in seismic ways. Let me give you an example. If I say abortion, we all know, you know, I've been a movement conservative my whole life. You know, 90, 10, we know where the conservative movement is. Tax cuts or tax raises.

We know where they are, pro-military, pro-nation of it. If I say AI policy, I mean, we don't even yet have a common grammar as a movement. So if we don't know the lexicon, but also we need to have a family discussion in debate. You know, we need to do it the good old fashioned way in the conservative movement, and think it through and argue it out.

But we better get moving fast, okay, because this is, this is moving very quickly. Let me give you how quickly. Dario Amade, at anthropic, just two months ago said that within the next 12 months, not way off in the wild future, 12 months, you're looking at 50% of white-collar entry-level job replacement because of AI.

That's otherwise known as our kids who graduate college, you know, you're a professor and you and I are both. Our kids who played by the rules, they took out a bunch of loans, and now they're coming

into a workplace, and that career ladder, those first two rungs, are getting hacked off potentially,

if that comes true. Second, Mustafa Suleiman is the Microsoft AI CEO. He says that within the next 12 to 18 months, 100% of white-collar tasks will be able to be automated.

What he's saying is that over time, if those companies start to automate, they could

go away.

“There are some people who think that this is just a lot of hype-marketing, and they say,”

"During the Industrial Revolution, yes, you know, the candle went away, but the electric light bulb came, the free-market will solve it. The argument they make, though, John, is that this time is different, and here's why. We're scaling human cognition. We're not scaling moving atoms in blue-collar work."

And so, yes, new jobs will be created in an AI economy, but those jobs will also potentially be able to be done as a Gentic AI, which is text-to-action AI comes on. So this is a 5D chess game, and we got to get coached up real quick. Yeah, we've seen it here, I mean, I've been amazed at the transformation of our workplace by the accessibility, the ability to use AI in all kinds of different tasks.

One person maximized in their capacity to do a lot more work than we could before as a

“single-individual, I think most of us are starting to realize this is not just type.”

Final question, pretty open here, from your experience, and doing this research, what was one of the big shocks for you? Was there anything that just kind of stopped you in your tracks, and you were surprised to learn? Yeah.

I try to be very balanced, I call it roses and landmines. There are going to be a lot of opportunities, and this year, I didn't want to write a dueler apocalypse, but there's a lot of hopeful solutions. And I think great things, I think young entrepreneurs are going to have more ability than they've ever had.

If you have fire in the belly and you're a young person, you don't have a lot of money, but you get a lot of grit and heart, and you got dreams, you're going to be able to scale your little idea and do something very big. So there are positives, the one that really stuck out to me, though, John, would be this, what I consider and what we call, and I say it in the last chapter, is a potential crisis

of meaning. And by that, I mean, if we do see this erosion of jobs, and it's not just hype to try to build support for the universal basic income, either way, it can be used for political leverage, I am very concerned about how that affects people at sold-up. When you and I go to a party, or social setting, or a Christmas party with our family, and

we're talking to a new person, what's one of the first things, what do you do for a living,

right? Lesslie for men, our ability to feed our family and take care of our children and serve our community and our family, that is a part of our identity, and when men don't have that sort of meaning and structure, that, again, the Protestant work ethic that is sort of served us for so long, they become very self-destructive, and all kinds of addiction and depression

and worse.

“So I think this crisis of meaning is a very real danger.”

I think it's an opportunity for, honestly, people of faith because people are going to need community and reaching out, and so I try to end on that hopeful note, but I think that we've just really got to understand how fast this is changing, and that we really have to understand the matrix. Such an important topic, affecting all of us in so many ways so rapidly.

Thank you so much for talking with us, really excited about the response to your book. It's already, it's been out for a week now, can we see the impact it has, appreciate it.

Oh, always appreciate you, thank you so much.

That was Winton Hall, author of Code Red, the left, the right, China, and the race to control AI, and this has been a week and addition of morning wire.