The Opioid-Like Drug Sold At Gas Stations

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So if you have any topics or stories you want me to look into, send them my way and let's dive in. Joining us now to discuss her new show is Daily Wires Rage and Conrad. Rage and thanks for coming on. Hi guys, thanks for having me. I'm honored to be here. This is fun.

This is very fun. I always see you guys recording in here so it's fun to actually get in here for a second.

Our domain. Yeah, exactly. So you just launched this new show. It's a deep dive investigative series type show. And you had your first episode on cradem, which it's a wild topic, very under-recorded.

Can you just tell us first the structure of your new show and then also what this first episode is about? Yeah, so this new show is very exciting. It's essentially a channel that is home to a bunch of different formats. So I've covered over the years that essentially every different story deserves its own kind of way to tell it. And so what I want to do with this channel is it can be long for interviews.

It can be short, quick video essay styles. It can be mini docs. It's going to be a sort of event of everything.

“And I think that's what's fun because every story can kind of be catered to the way that it's best told.”

So our first one is cradem. I had originally seen it go viral because these guys were talking about how these kids got their hands on this stuff from a gas station. And then they're saying like, but also it acts like an opiate to be very careful. And you can get it out of gas station and it helps.

Like there's no way this is true. And so we went on this rabbit hole and it proved to be very much true. And very much a problem that is just now starting to be discussed. It's sort of like it's lived in a gray area, kind of in the dark for a while. And now people are starting to be like, hey, this is a huge problem. Or I'm going to rehab for this thing that I didn't even know is dangerous.

And so that's kind of the topic of our first one because we need to deepest this because this is a huge issue going on. So when I live in California about 15 maybe it was probably 2015 when I first learned about cradem. And it was a friend of mine who was telling me that he would go into Chinatown to get this stuff called cradem. And it helped with this pain. And I remember thinking this is like so sketchy.

But nothing ever like I never really heard about it in the news.

He was demonstrating some signs that to me this looked like addiction.

But I kind of was like, well, if it's legal, it's legal.

Can you tell us what exactly this stuff is and what the legal status is? Yes. So it is a leaf that is grown in Southeast Asia originally. It's now come over here sort of under the radar like that where it's in these random little sketchy areas and people have kind of got their hands in it slowly. They essentially took derivatives from the cradem plant.

Something called 70H is the biggest kind of concern in this conversation. And 70H has now been chemists have gotten involved in their kind of catering this thing to create a new drug. So people are getting hooked to the cradem leaf plant. Probably kind of sounds like what your friend was dealing with. It helps with chronic pain so people are seeing these good side effects of it.

But there's also a dark side that people aren't really talking about or those who are didn't know about it until years into the usage of this product. So there's cradem and then there's 70H. So there's kind of this everyone's fighting both of these things at the same time. Both of them have issues, both of them are addictive.

Both of them act like Obia, which is the biggest thing that I think people should be aware of.

“And so that's what we are trying to break down.”

I'm like, what is the difference is because there's different legal statuses for both, too. A lot of states right now are targeting synthetic 70H. So that's because these chemists have gone involved, they're hiding it, they're making it way more dangerous. It's people are getting super-spredicted to the stuff. So that is becoming outlawed in a couple of states.

I think Florida is one of the first ones to really target synthetic 70H.

Other states, since even the recording of our video. Because we've been working this for months. As of this year, a lot of them are now targeting cradem as well. So there's kind of a lot happening simultaneously, but people are paying attention. When you say targeting is that like there's an agent limit,

et cetera, it's allowed to be stolen. There are a lot of them are being stolen smoke shops. So now when you drive past a smoke shop, you'll see cradem. I didn't even, again, I didn't even know the word I didn't know what it was. It's sort of like the way marijuana just suddenly popped up and now it's everywhere. Cradem is essentially doing the same thing.

So that's happening everywhere, but people are, they were saying, "Well, cradem is fine, but 70H is not." And so that's kind of been the battle, which is safe, or both of them safe. And a lot of states are now starting to say, "No, cradem even have its hazard issues." Like, even in its natural state.

So again, that's kind of the issue. Well, I mean, I've heard of high school students who are experiencing withdrawal symptoms when they are trying to come down from this. This is stuff that they are picking up at a 7/11, no ID required current. No, I mean, a lot of it's being sort of like a natural herbal supplement,

or things like a five hour energy. Yes, yes, and it looks like a five hour energy, or it just acts like that. And people think, "Oh, it's really fine, so they grab it at the gas station." And then they have to grab it most times a week. And then they're grabbing it most times a day.

And it's becoming like genuinely this huge issue. And then people are going to rehab for all of these different derivatives. So, it's wild. Is it expensive? No, no.

And that's, again, people can grab their hands on it really quickly. It's like under $10. I mean, we would out in our video, we bought a lot of different versions of it, because we wanted to kind of understand these, the differences. It's very cheap.

And every person at these gas stations and the smoke shops were like, "Yeah, I have a lot of people coming in for this like 11 times a day." But that's not normal, and it's not good, and also it's not something to brag about to arrange a stranger. But people kept saying that, but yeah, that's the trend.

Did you try it? No, I didn't. But I had these drugs in my office like I left now throw out. But I didn't try it. I would talk to HR, it's fine.

Exactly, they know it's here. Now, I had previously read a few months ago when we reported on this.

I think, the first time that there hadn't been officially any deaths linked to

Crayton and maybe not even 70H. But I understand that's a little bit of a gray area. What is the actual risk of this? I mean, there are a lot of people saying that Crayton is now on death certificates.

“So are they directly linking that as the only thing?”

No, not from what I'm seeing, but I am seeing a lot of people saying, you know, a lot of even widow speaking to this. My partner was addicted to Crayton. He passed away. It's honest death certificate among some other things.

They're trying to figure out the differences of that. But a lot of people are saying there's an absolute correlation between it. Especially heavy overdoses, especially of 70H. And synthetic 70H, I think that has been proven to have killed a lot of people at this point. So it's the natural stuff is what's kind of up for debate.

The synthetic stuff is definitely way more harmful in, like, smaller quantities, essentially. And again, this is what a high school student can walk into any 70H event and get. And not know it's a drug. Like, I mean, so many people are taking this stuff just thinking, like, it's totally fine. And that's, I think, that's my biggest thing with this.

Of, you know, people can debate how they want to use it or what kind of legal ramifications it should have or regulations. But at least, bare minimum, people should know what they're taking. And they should, just as any other drug. Like, you know, the dangers of taking alcohol, right?

There are people because a lot of people are comparing it to alcohol. But it's like, you know that alcohol can be dangerous, especially in mass quantities. People do not know that for this product. Now, I know it took part of the reason why opioids became the problem that they are is because the legislation lagged so far behind the harm.

“Yeah, are there bills in process to regulate, create them or at 70H?”

Yes, actually a lot. And even, like I said, as of the recording of our episode, there's a couple of states and I can read them here. It's actually have a bunch that now are having full creative bands. So the natural leaf and 70H, because again, both of those distinguishes Alabama, Arkansas, California, Connecticut,

Indiana, Louisiana, Vermont, Wisconsin, Rhode Island's band just expired in April.

So actively, a lot is happening with this.

“Now, before you go, you have your second episode dropping this weekend.”

Yes. Totally different topic. What are you talking about this weekend? Yes, so this weekend, I'm talking with someone called Spencer Taylor. And he is the creator of a new documentary on Angel Studios called The Death of Racess.

And he dove into the education system, essentially wanting to understand what's going wrong. Why are we, you know, this very developed, awesome country and yet our education system,

especially public education, is failing so many people.

And so he went on this rabbit hole and it led him to crazy parts in DC and unpacking things happening in the NEA and just crazy corruption on so many levels. And I watched documentary and he's a friend of mine. I was like, we need to talk about this because there is so much unpack. So it's a long-form conversation where we just talk about this.

And I can't stress enough how many surprises they're on. They're like, there were so many things that are appalling to be especially as a new parent.

“Like, what do I do with my child regarding education?”

And I, I'm terrified of some of the things that we learned.

So school. Yeah, yes. Not to spoil anything. Do you have one or two that you could highlight for us that were stuck? The surprises, yes, absolutely. He went undercover with the NEA and found that they were praising

this satanic temple, like at a conference where there are just a bunch of teachers. Like something that it shouldn't be political at all. And yet these breakout sessions were talking about the satanic temple and talking about,

“oh, well, this is the way that we talk about, you know, the Gay Street Alliance club because”

if we call it that parent will hear it and they'll know what that is. We're actually going to call it this thing instead. I mean, so many things like the woke ideology was just in it. And I didn't expect nor did he that he would find that anything that was supposed to be about fixing education, you know, if we have a problem we need to fix those topics are not fixing

it at all or making a way worse, obviously. It's crazy. Really disheartening. But he recorded that. Yes.

Okay. So this episode came out this weekend. Do you have weekly drops? Is that how those works? Yes.

So we have the big episodes. We go out every Saturday and then we'll have these little episodes to go out on one stage. There are little kind of conversations just myself to camera or extended cuts of interviews, whatever we want to show that maybe didn't get out in that Saturday episode. So every week they will be coming out and you can find it at the Reagan Conrad YouTube channel.

All right. Reagan, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you guys so much for having me. It was a pleasure. That was the Daily Wire's Reagan Conrad and this has been a week in addition to 21.