Rewind with Karen & Georgia - 96: Live at the Hard Rock in Orlando

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>> Santa Moju, Camilla Morone, Carrie Kenny Silver, and more. Listen to these episodes of Dear Chelsea on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get, your podcasts. >> Hello, and welcome to rewind with Karen and Georgia. This is the show where we recap our early episodes with case updates and hot-take revisions

and all the unlock memories we can master. Today we're rewinding to episode 96, which we named lie that the hard rock in Orlando, because we are at our live show in Orlando, Florida, at the hard rock. >> I thought it was real, yeah, my pleasure. >> Absolutely, memory hold this one.

This episode came out on November 23rd, 2017, so let's listen to the intro of episode 96. [ Applause ] >> What's up, Orlando? >> Oh my god, Vince is so fired, he left his sunglasses up here.

“>> I honestly thought you secretly brought them on stage, like here's my hilarious joke.”

>> This is probably, I don't know, straight up, left his hat. >> We fired, smaller meaning after this show, fired divorce, everything. >> I have to just tell you guys right now.

The second wave of screaming, that hit a new high, I never, I don't think we've heard that before.

[ Applause ] >> Yeah, that can rock and roll at the hard rock at the end, everybody. >> Yeah. >> They're screaming outside because there's a roller coaster, but it's really weird if you don't think about that. There's just screaming outside.

>> I mean, I'm going to admit something to you. Go ahead, we got out of the car to go into the back, you know, artists and trunks. And I heard some distance screaming and I was like, guys, guys, we'll see you in a second. And then it was like, a roller coaster goes like that, I just like, oh no, I've lost my mind. >> I already got into it.

>> You guys got a screaming, which is cool because Tampa got us an active serial killer.

>> Yes, that was nice. >> You made up for it. >> What a gift.

“>> I mean, what an amazing, on brand gift for us.”

>> We were honored. >> Yeah.

>> Can you make a good point, Vince was like, if you guys, if you solve this and find the guy, you're going to be huge.

>> Yes, imagine. >> And then Karen was like, well, we haven't seen Stephen in the active serial killer in the same room at the same time. >> Let's just set him up for it and get the glory.

“>> I believe he's an active serial killer, and mustache, and he's not here, so we can say anything you want about it.”

>> Yes, say anything you want, he's just with my cats, so not be too far, oh, they wanted him to be under here so bad, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, guys, welcome. >> This is my favorite part house, thank you. >> That's Karen Kilgaris, Georgia Hardstar, thank you, thank you, where we, remember what we did this afternoon, oh, dude, so we had a drive here from Tampa, and like a couple hours between when your hotel room, it kicks you out, and then let's see when the next one, so I'm like, oh, the fuck do we do?

>> A, waffle house, waffle house, all I'm gonna place, it was my first time, yeah, yeah, it was unbelievably regular, which is good, because most are like, don't go there, you're gonna regret it, I don't regret it, here's the thing, those biscuits, I had a biscuit without gravy on it, and it was, I was like, is this fried, because it was really thin, and it was filled with butter or scrisco or something, butter flavored, scrisco, but it was really good, yeah, so then we ate, and then we went to, there's a town called, plant city, yeah, you love plant city, so do we, we did show, it was nuts, so we went to all these, like, my dream, just a town full of antique malls, you know, yeah, so much,

vintage Tupperware, Georgia kept picking up bowls and going, so yeah, so it's perfect for flying, a nice big bowl from 1964, but it has the classic, it has the pattern, never find it, it will see, and then here another great idea, well, we were wondering around, she was like, let's get a weird creepy present for whoever does the hometown murder tonight, yeah, so then, so then, yeah, let it go, let it go, don't get connected to material things, on this, in this life that you have, but Georgia is immediately like, let's get a haunted picture, you know what I mean?

“Like, something haunted, let's get something awful, you're like, there you go, now you have to keep it, sorry, so we were, like, searching for a thing, what about this, and just got holding up weird shit?”

I was, I found salt and pepper shakers of, um, two little, on the back, because I couldn't figure out what it was, it was like, they had big blue eyes, but then green heads, and they were holding their knees like this, and on the back it just said, melanchil dread. So we found Karen Bound, this gorgeous jewelry box, okay, so, if you are from the 70s, like, missile, um, they had those jewelry boxes that, like, you open them up, and then the ballerina clicks up on a spring, and then it's like, I don't know, talk about fucking haunted, it's like, this garriest thing as a child, where you're like, this is absolutely a murder soundtrack.

It's like, a ghost is absolutely making this happen. Yeah, for sure. But on your wings, little girl, and forever, and then it was not like a movie where, like, if you're bad, you get trapped forever as the, as the fucking ballerina.

There is now, and then she gets close to the thing every night, keep going, tiktok, tiktok, someone tiktok, that's amazing.

It was just like gorgeous version of it, perfect condition ballerina, everything was like gorgeous about it. It was, it was like, it was way bigger than a normal one, and you opened it, and then things went out like that, and then there was a bottom drawer. Everything that's happened is like, from the 50s, probably. Cream on the outside, salmon, salmon, hand on the inside, and then on the inside. Like velvet untouched. It looked like some old lady bought it for someone and was like, fuck them and put it up in the closet and never gave it to anybody and then died, right?

Yeah, so it's just filled with hate, which attracted me immediately, and I picked, and also it was way back, it was on the bottom shelf, way back.

So I opened it to Georgia and this is, we had to get it, we're looking at it, and on the back, in embossed in gold, it's a lady-buckston.

“It's from a company called Lady-buckston.”

What's renaming our company? We're stealing that. We're changing the name of our company. There's no way that company's still in business. Are they? Someone started crying in the front row just now. No, I'm sorry. I saw what happened. There was probably leftover from who played here last night. Let's guess. Just Jay Giles band.

Yeah, Jay Giles band. A piece of glitter. Whoa, he's left fell from the sky. Oh, the Katy Perry, right? Her lap. How big is it? Holy shit, can I have that?

Thank you. I feel like a cat. Oh, that's not glitter, baby. Amazing, baby. Amazing, baby. We had that jewelry box, she would get it.

Oh, oh, and for me? Man, please don't come toward the stage unless you're called out. Can you believe that shit? You did it exactly right. She's rushing the stage like a lunatic. Can't believe you.

Oh, yes. Did you lick it?

No. I thought about it, but I can't imagine what it's made of. Yes, there. Now we just get beamed the fuck up in the space to be with Heaven's Gate. We don't have to record this episode.

“It's going to go straight into Stephen's brain.”

Oh, my gosh. This looks good. This is not to be a TV insider, but when I worked on Ellen, this, you do one giveaway where it's like, we're going to send this soul journalist's wife on a cruise, and then they have confetti

cannons that explode in the audience and out onto the stage. And this, for the next, like, 17 shows, every once in a while, this happens. And I swear to God, one time, they got Oprah to come on that show, which was a very big get because they both shows still existed on regular TV.

And at the very end, Oprah was just like taking this huge, Christ-like bow. Like, you're welcome from my presence, everyone. And this piece of confetti goes like this and landed on her head. It was like, "No."

Of course she was like, "Yeah." So awesome. Anyways, anyhow, baby bucks, baby bucks. We focused. Standing in line.

It was really cheap. We're standing there like, "We got her thing for the person." We have the best idea. And then this woman comes up behind us. This real sweet, like, you know,

really normal person, like, so not from LA. Like, a really nice, normal woman. Yeah. She's like, "Oh, is that a lady bucks?" Like, "What did she say?"

She said, "Oh, I see I have that one back there. It's very similar. It's for my daughter. And I've two other daughters. I'm trying to get, where did you find it?" And I was like, "It was on the bottom shelf.

I was doing a full body block. But I'm shelf. Don't worry about where I thought I can found it."

She was like, "I still have mine from when I was in second grade."

I'm not fucking kidding. Yeah. Still has her. And I'm trying to get a couple for mine. I found one over there.

Did you see me? Yeah. She was very, so Georgia looks at me and goes, "Let's give it to her." And I was like, "What the fuck?" She ignored me.

She just, like, ignored Vince was like, "Yeah." And I was like, "Let's give it to me." Anyway, can you guys finish up? So we can get the lady bucks, didn't?

“Georgia turns around and goes, "You should have it."”

And the woman goes, "Oh, no, no, no." Like, she's giving her the fucking holy grail. Oh, no. And you just put it into her hands? No.

Because you gave me a nod. I did. I did. I didn't. I didn't.

It was my idea. I broke. I did break at the end. And she goes, "Oh, no. We just immediately started blocking away."

She started crying. Wipes her eyes and then we were all like, "We're the best people in the fucking world." It was the best. So no one gets a prize. Except for that lady.

No lady gets a prize because we are good people. And then we were running scenarios of how she's a con woman. And that thing is worth like $700 on eBay. And she does that to everybody, where she's like, "They got the fucking bucks done."

Let's see. I have daughters. That's it. I have daughters. And the woman who works, there's like, "Judy, we told you you can't bother."

The other customers anymore. Judy's a pirate. Judy. Judy, you're not. Judy.

I just want to mention, someone was good enough Edward. You made us cookies tonight. You're Edward. They were delicious. We got some cookies sent backstage.

Yeah, you could have done it too. But this is my favorite thing. You read a really nice card. And then he wrote, "PS, I almost got fired for writing. Stay sexy.

Don't get murdered on our positivity board at work." [laughter]

I mean, it's not the same thing for everyone. We're all different. Special snowflakes in this world. And everyone has a positivity angle. Yeah.

Yeah. It's positive. Isn't it? And positive.

“If I did not, I'm going to get murdered.”

Yes. For sure. And then like now I'm obsessed with Edward. Where do you work? Like he works with the police station.

Let him say what? Where is it? I got out of here. I got out of here. Oh my gosh!

That's awesome.

You're always heard, Harry.

You are so lucky. They didn't fucking put a bag over your head and pull you out and dump you out over the county line. Oh my god. They're going to now. You're like, he tried to SSDGM Harry Potter.

You can't do that. That's not for them. Everyone knows. Oh, I wrote down the word head wound right here. Oh, Jesus.

Talk about a head wound. Talking about walking into our heads how lucky. To fucking check in after our little drive. And the fucking kid has a straight-up head wound. In the lobbies.

He's fine. Yeah. He was talking and walking and everything's okay. But bleeding, bleeding down his face. We were just like walk past him and his mom screaming at the father.

Yeah. I've never heard.

I didn't know this was a real thing that people actually said to each other.

She yelled at the dad who was just hanging out at the fucking front desk watching. The mom freak out. Don't just stand there. Do something. She actually said those words out loud.

And the dad was like, they're getting ice. It was just like the most unhappy family. Perfect for vacation here in Orlando. I think. They're fine.

We were following them to get into the elevator and Karen goes. And that's not good on the elevator with the rage family. And I was so long because I really wanted to get on the elevator. Really rage family. Just hear what they have to say to each other.

I am such a denial-based Irish Catholic where you and your family could be strangling each other. And front of me.

“And I'd be like, anyway, so what are your things giving plans?”

None of my the wall. They're interviewing the masking the wall. And when they were getting on the elevator, we heard them say, well, this has been a disaster. That was the mother. And it disaster.

Now let's go to Diagon Alley for Christ's sake.

Where they're all positive there. Where they're all positive. We'll get some positive news over there. I can live finally. Oh, shit guys.

Also, when we got up, when I got upstairs, I immediately went back downstairs by a diet coke. And right as I pressed the button for the elevator, this lady comes out of the stairwell. And she was kind of rad. She had a huge eagle tattoo on her bicep, where I was like, who are you? And she looks at me waiting for the elevator and she goes, I wouldn't get in there.

We just got stuck. It's where to go. We have been here 15 fucking minutes and everything has happened. Yeah? It's a trouble follows us.

Yes, it does. All the way to Orlando. Hey. Can't go. Thank you.

Oh, that's nice. Thank you. So much. That's what we do.

“Oh, should I make my excuse about my outfit?”

I really did want to, I have a new black dress that I wanted to wear. I guess subconsciously, I didn't want to wear it. Because I forgot my tights in my car at the airport. I don't know how I did it. I didn't want to wear it.

I didn't want to wear that dress. I didn't. That's not true. You love it. I offered you my tights last night.

I was like, I didn't shave my legs, but you can have it. I'll take my frio. You've done it for me. Taking it for the team. But I was just like, man.

Oh, just where my pajamas. And I remembered I had diamond hoop earrings, and I was like, they'll do all the work. They draw the eye away. Nails. All right.

Listen, we work hard for you guys. Listen, look. It's so hard doing a live podcast. It's really traveling. It's not true.

It's not true. We're lying to your face. This is so easy and lucky. Listen, I can't believe it. I just want to know what he's thinking right now.

This is my husband, he's the guy. He's our tour manager. He sets everything up. He gets shit done and taken care of. And we know it.

And he does stuff so perfectly. We would be a fucking mess without him. And I just love that he left his son. On the latest, this rug. He made us this rug.

He works really hard. Yeah. He really does. He does. Maybe he can't do that.

His dispensary too, probably.

You don't get to know. You do? There's the S's and no.

“Someone knows something that you guys don't know.”

They're not telling you. They have one. They have one. They have one.

They've just the one dispensary.

Well, you guys got to get there. Yeah. Get some sunglasses. Come on to California. Those sunglasses are made of pot.

Don't tell the TSA. Yeah. I couldn't remember that one. I'm also speaking of pot. You guys have a horse here that got a DUI or something.

Yeah. Am I getting that wrong? There's, I actually looked a story up, so I could see the lady. It's the best mug shot. If you look it up, it was in Lakeland.

And she wrote her horse. You know it. This is your, we're going to tell you your news seven days later. It's fun. She's writing down.

People call the cops because she's obviously drunk on a horse. And she's not staring the horse. The horse isn't going to be like, no, I'm not going to fucking walk off the road. The horse is just like, lady, it's your call. I'm going where you told me to go.

She's like, oh. She was double over the limit. So she was a 0.161. Ooh. Get that.

Two glasses. Nothing. I'm going to do that in fucking two hours. If you care, if you care, you can do it. That's the wrong message.

But you've got to see her headshot. I mean, much. We're even in LA for too long. She is my favorite actress. It was Blife Daner.

Is that crazy? No. Um. What does she look like? It's one of those things.

And you guys are familiar with this. Where the hair is young and the face is old. Oh, that is the saddest description. Hair is young faces. That's the saddest four words I've ever heard together.

“Well, because she had kind of like, I think an accidental”

Ombrae. You know, an advanced. So like, this part of her hair was one color. And then down here was a different one. Like, right here, her life got hard.

Like, she was doing great six months ago. When this part was here. And then some shit went down. Yeah. And it's been her hair was no longer a prank.

I've been there. I hope to God that woman isn't sitting in this audience with a single tear rolling down her cheek right now. Well, if she is, I hope her hair looks great. She does that.

She went to the after that. She was like, look, I'm going to get it together. I put my horse at risk. I'm going to the salon. We're going to get these roots stripped bleached

and have everything look the same.

The secret to not looking like that is just to always have brown hair.

Because no one knows how bad your fucking month is going. Yeah, you know. It's true. What are you going to say? Well, that seemed judgmental.

Sorry, everybody. Bye. [LAUGHTER] This is a true crime podcast. Yes, that's right.

It's a-- [CHEERING] Tell you about ahead of time. True crime with a touch of comedy. Yeah, but they're not--

I mean, they're like, we take them apart, you can put them back together. We're not doing that. Some people don't like it. Yeah. So, say you're one of those people tonight.

Yeah. Keep it to yourself. We know. [LAUGHTER] Don't worry.

We know. We know. On mine. They tell us. They meet lots of people who are like, she brought me.

Yeah.

I never heard you guys before.

You're pretty funny. That's what happened. No, everyone's the best. Should we sit down? Yeah.

[CHEERING] Yes. The best part. Truly, the best part. These are nice.

Yeah. It's hard to catch a fish. And she-- my sweat and towels here. Oh, my-- I'm going to do this. Like, my mom had Thanksgiving?

Yeah. My mom had Thanksgiving would get dressed in a really nice outfit and then go downstairs to cook. So then she always had this on her shoulder.

“And she'd be like, could you girls make one appetizer please?”

Could you girls-- [LAUGHTER] The most disgusting rag. No. And then there's this--

Both Van Halen used this rag. Very recently. That's the sun. It's a deep cut. All right.

Let's put everything in order. The glitter rose here. It goes there. I left my mirror. Okay, great.

Here we go. That's yours. That's yours. I'm clean. I'm actually an applicant.

[LAUGHTER] All right. Who-- it's me. It's you. It's me.

Okay, Karen goes first. That's right. Thank you. [APPLAUSE] Okay.

We're back.

I don't know if there was a cafe.

It was like a fucking big old amphitheater. Marina, Marina.

“What do you remember about that experience?”

I remember. Yeah, I remember. I remember the lights being low and like moody in the green room. They gave us a lot of food and stuff. And I just kept thinking, they're going to kick us out when they find out who we are.

Like, they're going to realize they made a mistake. And we're not supposed to be. Like, there were a couple of venues like that. Like, we did Las Vegas. I couldn't see you now.

And I was like, they're going to kick us out. Yes. Yeah. It was a trip. It's weird because some of the things that we talk about in this episode,

I connected to a different venue and a different storyline. Right. So I'm just like, that's weird. I thought that happened at the place where the blank happened. And it's just weird.

Like, this makes me go, this is why people keep scrapbooks.

As corny as it is. Yeah. You want to be able to look back and just be like, oh, I get it. Totally. The whole thing we were doing it.

I guess you could probably, if you searched back on Instagram, far enough. Right. Yeah.

“I guess that is a scrapbook, really, right?”

Yeah. Kind of. Then I did. I do wish, yeah. I was like that, or someone who loved me was like that.

But nope. Or someone loved me. Yeah. Or my mom would fucking get her scrapbooking shit together. But no.

I totally forgot about the fucking jewelry box. Like, oh, that is hilarious. And I think this is when I bought something for the hometown person that night and ended up keeping it for myself. Right. I could tell you exactly what I still have.

It's a fact it was a beautiful perfume bottle shaped like a ostrich. And it was like my color and the green. And it was an avon perfume bottle from like, probably. Oh, yeah. The 60's or 70's.

But it's like one of my favorite things that I own. So it's worth it. It's okay. Totally worth it. It really was for you because you thought to yourself what's the best thing to give as a gift.

And then pick the thing you like the best. And then like, well, give it to myself. Yeah. That's completely understandable. That's shopping.

I think. Right. That's every year when I Christmas shop for sure. I'm like, look at me with this sweater. Oh, I probably need a new belt.

I bet my sister would love this, so I'm going to keep it. Nora loves Sephora.

That's what I'm always trying to act like.

Right.

“That's what I connected us being at that because I can remember the antique store.”

Yeah. But I connected it with when you came out of the bathroom and we thought we lost you. I thought that was the same. Right. No, that was the night before.

I did look up the jewelry box. And they are, they're not like super expensive. You can find ones for like $50. But they also, I saw ones that go up to hundreds of dollars. Yeah.

So, you know, you could have made out real good. I could have been in that jewelry box business that I've always dreamed of being a part of. The funny thing is that I had one of those. I think did I have it or was like my cousin had that. Where that was a very 70's set piece.

That set piece of like the ballerina going around as you go through your cousin. Yeah. That's a jewelry box. Totally. I have the grandma one that like opens up to a bunch of different things.

Yes. That's my favorite. Is that what we had or did we have a ballerina one? I do not remember at all. We talked about the ballerina one.

So it must be that. But I think they don't think that the jewelry company makes that kind. I think I was just trying to put any kind of a sunset. The lambs reference in any time. Okay.

That was, is my hacky crutch that I loved to rely on at last. You must. You must. Oh, horse to you. The horse to you.

I laid it. One of our original local crime bits that just destroyed. Yeah. That's when we learned that. The city that were in what they're like and what they have done.

They're represented band. Yeah. This mug shot. You didn't lie. This mug shot is really something.

It is. It's a horse-related crime type of mug shot. Totally. Like if it's the crime. Right.

It does. It's a look. And it's an aesthetic. Oh. And I'm about to do one of my favorite stories ever.

Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Okay. Let's get into Karen's story about Judy when I want to.

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Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. It's hard when we are home from these shows and people don't cheer us constantly for every single fucking thing. We do all day long. Uh-huh. I have a hard time.

How do we know for doing well or not? I'm like, I'll look around to be like, excuse me. I just sat down. Why does. How do I know if I'm supposed to sit down or not?

All right. So my murder tonight and my story I'm about to tell you is about a little lady. Name Judy Buenowano. The Black Widow Killer. Uh-huh.

Love a good Black Widow. Buenowano, probably. Still. Still, I said it the way I said it. You pick those up and throw them away.

Let's make it look nice. I got most of my information.

“You know when you go on YouTube to look up a serial killer you need to know information about.”

And there's somebody that is posted a TV show as if it's their TV show. So I think it was a guy with something like, it was some kind of a play on words where it looked like his name was like, It was like, kicker in the ass or something. But it was broken up so it looked like a guy's name. It was great.

Anyway, but he didn't make the show. And I'm pretty sure it's a show called Women On Death Row.

And the little thing up in the corner said CI, but I've never heard of that channel before.

So I don't know what was happening. But if you go on YouTube, that was where I got most of this information. Plus there's a website called crime museum.org. That's really good. That had a bunch of information about her too.

Okay. So Judy, when you on you who was born Judeus and Louis L.T. On April 4th, 1943 in Klauna, Texas. And so the shortest sentence with all the names I can't pronounce it. So get those out of the way.

Yeah, we started off strong. Okay, so her mother died when she was two. She and her brother Robert get sent to live with the grandma.

They've now live in New Mexico.

And she then has a whole childhood of abuse by the new step mother. And I guess there were five step brothers that were all dick. So she has it bad. And then when she's 14, she snaps. Throws, grease on the step brothers and attacks the father and step.

The father, the father. She fucking lost it.

“I remember the fact that you just tiered for Judy because you're going to regret that later.”

Do you think she had a thing like this? And she was just like, yeah, dex and this through. She was like, they were like, this bacon isn't crispy enough. And she's like, oh yeah, let me put my towel down really quick. Okay.

So she is sentenced to 60 days in a detention center. And then she decides, well, I'm not going back home. So she goes to a girl's reform school. She graduates from there. And then she studies to become a nursing assistant.

In 1961, when she's 18, she gives birth to her son Michael out of wedlock.

She never says who the father is.

And then the following year, she marries a guy named James Goodier. He's an Air Force officer. They have two more kids. And then they all move to Orlando. Hey. Yeah.

“She in 1968 opened a place called The Conway Acres Child Care Center.”

Uh-oh. You guys went there? It was at fun. Did you ever did everything taste like almonds? Because there's a poisoning aspect to this story.

So her husband, James Goodier, is sent to Vietnam. In 1979, he comes back from Vietnam.

And in September of this same year, he starts to get really sick.

He's vomiting. He's really weak. He can't get out of bed. He ends up being hospitalized. She goes and visits him in the hospital. Sits by his bed every day. He ends up dying. Yeah.

Um, so, uh, she gets his life insurance money, uh, as a widow will. Um, then later on that year, her house catches on fire, burns all the way down. She gets little insurance money for that too. Um, then she begins dating a man named Bobby Joe Morris. And in 1977, he moves to Colorado.

So she packs up all of her kids and she moves to Colorado and moves in with him. Um, within a year, Bobby Joe, um, is in the hospital dying of a mysterious illness. It includes vomiting and being very weak. Um, you know, that mystery. It's just a weird mystery.

This is back when they didn't know what caused anything. Um, so, when she would go visit him in the hospital, she would bring him Hawaiian punch from home and it can, in a, in, like, a Tupperware container. He just loves Hawaiian punch, Tupperware. He loves Tupperware. I bet it was corn maze yellow.

Um, yeah, she's, like, to the nurses, like, he just has to have his Hawaiian punch from out of this specific container poured by me only. Don't drink any. Yeah. Uh, so in January of 1978, he dies of this illness.

And none of the doctors have no idea what it is when they do the optopsie. Nothing shows up. Five days after he dies, she caches three life insurance checks. From all the policies she'd taken out on him a couple of months before he died. But everyone's like, wow, what a lucky coincidence.

Congratulations, Judy. So she ends up buying a house in Whisper Bay. No, it's, it's near Pensacola. And are you from Pensacola? Because you didn't know what Whisper Bay was.

So I think you might be fucking lying. Everyone from Whisper Bay is really quiet. Because Pensacola just won't stop screaming all the time. So they're like, we're a little, we specifically moved you because we don't like loud. Of course you don't know who's from Whisper Bay.

They're snapping in their feet. This was bad bad. They love me. Okay. Now Judy changes her name legally to Judy 1/0 on you, which is Spanish for good year.

“What you might remember was her dead first husband's last name.”

Oh, you could be pretty creepy. Okay. So in June of 1979, her son Michael drops out of high school. He's like 17, he joins the army.

Oh, sorry, Fort Benning, Georgia.

“He stops by her house to visit her to say goodbye.”

And she gives him some sort of some item that he eats her drinks, perhaps a delicious cup of Hawaiian punch. I'm not sure. When he gets to Fort Benning, he becomes gravely ill, vomiting, weakness, whatnot. He is found to have high levels of arsenic in his system. So his limbs begin to atrophy.

This is one of the side effects and he becomes paralyzed in his legs and then he can't use his hands.

So he has to wear braces on his legs and his hand, he basically can't use his hands.

So he's discharged from the army and he moves back in with his mother. You know, so his mother can take care of him in his illness. I got a bad feeling about her. Do you? Yeah.

Who, Judy? Judy. Um. So in May of 1980, the day he comes back from being discharged from the army with his paralysis and his illness, she plans a fishing trip.

Okay. Same day. Thank you through. No. If she's not gonna, I'm not gonna.

“Could you imagine, you're like, even if it was just like you were a college and you came home”

because you got the flu and you like walk in the front door and your mom's like, here we go. We're trapped. Let's go.

You'd be like, what the fuck?

Yeah. She gets a canoe. They get a folding chair and strap him into the chair in the canoe. No. And Michael, the younger brother, James and Judy all go on a canoe fishing trip in the East River.

That sounds like a bummer, even if you're at fucking top of your health. Yeah. You're feeling great? Fuck no. You took tons of vitamins and you're like, I don't want to get that fucking canoe.

Yeah. We went on a, I just remembered. We went on a canoe trip in the Russian River when I was like 10 years old and it was our family and our next journey to the hospital is who are like our family. And my dad, who is six foot four, probably 280 pounds.

And my cousin Cheryl's husband at the time, Mike, who was even bigger than my dad. They were like best friends and we're like, we're going to get in our own canoe and bring beer. You know, like our time. They flipped over in that canoe.

“I'm not kidding, like, probably 30 times.”

As we were going, it was supposed to be like this lazy canoe trip down the river. Just every five minutes. It was like, gone, and all their shit would go everywhere. And they'd laugh, and they'd stand up and drink a beer. Whatever.

Sounds kind of awesome. It was fucking hilarious.

Well, we get finally get to the end of the trip to turn the canoe's back in.

And they turn the canoe to the side. And it says, like, max weight 300 pounds. [ Laughter ] No, that is. Just a little family, fun side bar before we go back into the horror show.

That is this family. Okay. So, at one point, the canoe tips over. And some fishermen find James and Judy, treading water and trying to hold onto the canoe,

and Judy tells them, "My son Michael is braces on his legs, and he went down, and we can't find him." Great. So, they find Michael's body a quarter of a mile down the river, because he had braces on his arms and legs,

so he basically sunk right to the bottom. So, Judy tells the cops. She tells them one story was the fishing line got caught in trees. One story was they hit a log bump to them, and knocked the canoe over a floating log.

And then one story was, "There was a snake in the canoe." [ Laughter ] This, like, could have been all three at the same time. I mean, could you imagine? A snake-filled log hits your fishing line.

[ Laughter ] Yes. [ Laughter ] All right. The younger son James says he has no memory of the incident,

because he was knocked out when the thing happened and unconscious. So, it turns out Michael having been in the Army has a $20,000 life insurance policy, purely from just being in the Army. There wasn't just the Army life insurance policy.

There were several other on her son. So, she collects all of that money, and she goes and opens a beauty salon, called "Fingers and Faces." [ Laughter ] Are you fucking kidding me?

[ Laughter ] Yeah. I'm pretty. Make me pretty. Make my fingers and faces pretty, please.

I have ten fingers and four faces to get someone help me. [ Laughter ] "Fingers and Faces." That's the kind of place that I saw. I would take a picture of it and try to think of a good tweet about it.

"Fingers and Faces." Okay.

Yeah. Anyways, go. Yeah, they're not.

Adnails salon and a facial place, never the twin-shell meet.

Like, can you imagine you're there trying to get a facial

“with like cucumbers on your eyes and then not like nail polish smell?”

[ Laughter ] Relax, relax. We're peeling off the top three layers of your facial skin. Okay. In the meantime, there are some people out there that are like,

"I like fingers and Faces." [ Laughter ] Oh, do you have photos, by the way? We can show photos. No.

Okay. I mean, not yet. Oh, okay, great. Okay. I'm sorry.

She starts dating a local businessman named John Gentry. So in October of 1982, I mean, they said she had a really magnetic personality, of course, clearly. She can get any man and poison any man she wants. Was his -- he was a local businessman?

Was it called toes and decolotons? [ Laughter ]

Yeah, toes and elbow, toes and neck.

His business was shaving men's neckbeards off in the '70s. And pedicure. I'm hummusing your feet. And just being like, "Oh, you're going to wear those burgundy stocks. You've got to get rid of that heel shit."

So they were a match made in heaven. None of this is true. He probably did taxes. Okay. So in October of 1982, Judy, as you do when you start dating someone,

“can Vince's John that they should take out life insurance policies on each other?”

Yeah, next step. Yeah. Real man, check next step. Yeah. If you date, you fuck, you take out life insurance policies on each other.

Boom. I mean, come on. Yeah. That's what it's -- let's get real. Then she's tries to start -- she gives him special vitamins

that she said are going to be very good for him. They're citrus-based and men. As most things are here in Florida. [ Laughter ] You know, there's nothing wrong with him,

but she's like, "It looks like you need some vitamins." So, of course, he starts taking them. He starts vomiting, feeling weak. The whole thing. So he stops taking them.

And this infuriates her. Good. These are all good science that you're getting poisoned. Yeah. You're just like, "So you're mad about the vitamins?"

Or is it something else? No, it's the vitamins. [ Laughter ] So on June 25, 1983, she tells John that she's pregnant. And she insists that they get married,

“which I think has something to do with the life insurance policy.”

It's funding insist that you get married to someone. Yeah. It insists. It's so romantic. I know.

That insistence. I demand that you love me forever. Okay. So the same night, she's hosting a party for an employee at Fingers and Faces.

I think it was someone that specialized in Faces. It was a face side of the business. [ Laughter ] And all the fingers people saw on one side of the room and the face people saw on the other.

But they're really catty. But she tells John that he should drive his own car to the party and park in a very specific parking spot. Okay. And he's like, "Sounds good."

[ Laughter ] I don't question you in any way. And thanks for those vitamins, Judy. Oh, God. So at the end of the night, she says,

"On the way home, will you stop by the liquor store and get some champagne and bring it home for us?" Sure, no problem. And on his drive to the liquor store, his car explodes. [ Laughter ]

But he survived. [ Laughter ] I don't have a picture of this car. I should. But bring it to us.

I'll just picture it. I'll paint your picture. That's what I meant. These early -- one of those early '80s cars that looks like it's a rectangle with two things cut out, right?

The child would draw a car. Yeah, exactly. [ Laughter ] There's no curve in any way. This is before the Ford Tourist.

When everything was still real boxy. And I think it's like kind of a creamy yellow color. Absolutely. Bucket seats? Sunflower.

Sunflower color. Sunflower. Bench seats. Thank you. Yeah.

That's the confetti lady. She knows everything. [ Laughter ] Okay. And the entire back, so it turned out there were five sticks of dynamite in the trunk.

Holy. That were connected with copper wire to the rear lights.

So the first time you buck and put on those brakes,

the back of the car exploded five pieces of dynamite worth. Where do you even buy dynamite? I act me? I think, right? [ Laughter ]

Everyone knows, "Oh, I'm the idiot!" [ Laughter ] She also got a couple animals, but that was for later when he actually got home. And then, of course, just a big black spot. She was going to put down on the ground and fall into.

[ Laughter ] That's right. Do it. Do it. A band in child.

I was raised by TV. Okay. [ Laughter ] Okay.

“So, of course, the cops, since he survives, are like,”

"Hey, do you know anyone who wants to kill you?"

And he's like, "No, this is not." Although, oh, we did have a vitamin incident at our house a couple months ago. So they start looking into it and they get the vitamins that he had been giving him.

It turns out there's paraformaldehyde in the vitamins, which is the chemical that you use at nail salons to clean the instruments. Ooh, that blue shit? Bingers.

Faces. [ Laughter ] The blue shit, like, barbersoll stuff? I don't know. Whatever.

Whatever, paraformaldehyde. I don't know. I should have looked it up, I'm sorry. And you shouldn't have. Yeah.

Good one. Listen. Look. [ Laughter ] Thank you so much.

Okay.

“Then they find out that when Judy and John”

had their romantic life insurance policy take-out session, [ Laughter ] She had secretly behind his back raised his limit of $500,000. What?

[ Laughter ] Yeah. So then he was like, "Huh? Maybe things aren't as they seem." So the cops then have, like, probable cause,

I guess, to get a warrant in search of the house, and they find there is copper wire in the teenage suns room, James, that match the copper wiring that hooked the TNT up to the rear view by. I'm sorry, but that is just the,

I mean, car bombs are bad, but that is fucking hilarious. It's just like gasing it, gasing it. Oh, oh, maybe I'll break. No, I don't have to.

It's like, "Oh, I just wish I could have seen it." [ Laughter ] In the cartoon way, not in a real person way. [ Laughter ] Okay.

So they also find out that Judy had made plans to go on a world cruise, and John was not invited. [ Laughter ] No, take it for John. Oh, man.

Yeah.

“So they're like, "This doesn't seem great."”

[ Laughter ] So in July of 1983, Judy is arrested for attempted murder as his teenage son, but he is later acquitted. Okay. And trial.

And because this is so fucking nuts, it raises suspicions about the 1,000 other dead people in her life. [ Laughter ] So they start exhuming bodies. And it turns out her son Michael had also had our snick in his system,

and James Goodier had our snick in his system, and Bobby Joe Morris had our snick in his system. Wow. Heavy doses, it was described as. So then she's charged with their murders also.

So the first trial was for her son Michael,

and in court, the prosecutor's actually show how, based on the things that got dumped out of the canoe, where basically all the stuff in the canoe was dumped out where James and Judy were treading water and holding onto the canoe, but where Michael's body was,

there was nothing. So it couldn't have tipped where he was found. So basically, they dumped him out of the canoe, and then rode away and then staged the accident. Wow.

You can tell all that? Yeah. By floating bags filled with like fucking cheetos and stuff. Because they kept all the stuff around. Yeah.

Yeah. Weird. Yes. So she's convicted of the murder of her son Michael on March 31st, 1984, and then in October,

she goes to trial for the attempted murder of her boyfriend John Gentry. She's convicted of that murder. Her third trial begins a year later. And for this, she's facing the death penalty for the 1971 murder

of her first husband, James Good Year, by our snake poisoning on November 26, 1985. She's found guilty of that murder, and she's sentenced to die in the electric chair. Yeah.

Yeah. So of course, she denies ever having anything to do with any of these deaths. It's just a series of terrible coincidences. Fingers faces. [LAUGHTER]

Fingers faces crossed. Yes. Cross your fingers across your face that everything turns out good.

So she never says anything when she's on death row.

But 12 years into her sentence. She decides to grant an interview to a local, a newswoman named Sue Straw. You know, Sue? She's good.

Because Sue was a customer at Judy's nails along. Oh my goodness. And Sue says in this show that I'm watching, she was like, I even then, I could not see her as a murderer. Wow.

Because she said she was just so soft. And then I was like, God damn it, Sue. She's a sociopath.

Yeah.

“Is there going to act like the thing that you wouldn't suspect?”

You know who killed people?

Soft people. Yeah. They killed people, too. That's right. Yeah.

Yeah. It better to act soft than everyone's like, her, she's such a lady with her beautiful fingers and her gorgeous face. [LAUGHTER]

But then they have this clip of that interview. And when Sue brings up the charge that Judy had dumped her own paralyzed son out of a fucking canoe and drowned him. She goes from talking like this.

This has been very hard for me. And she's kind of like one of these ladies. And then Sue's like, yeah, but how about that canoe thing? And she's like, and who said that? What witness said that?

No witness said that with the prosecutions. And she like turns into the fucking wicked witch of the East. So quickly. It's scary. It's like one of those teachers were like, they're nice to the class.

And then you do some weird thing. And they're like, get over that one. And then you're just like, holy shit. [LAUGHTER] Oh, you can watch it.

It's real good. And then the reaction shot of Sue's draw. She's like this. [LAUGHTER] Oh, my face and my fingers.

[LAUGHTER] OK. So then on March 30th, 1988, Judy Bonoano is put to death in the electric chair.

She's a second woman in Florida state history.

She's a two-of-a-ben, put it to death on the electric chair. Her last meal. Oh, dear. This is going to be not to minimize the insane human loss in the story. But for me, this is one of the most upsetting parts of the story.

Her last meal was a salad of broccoli tomato and asparagus. Go fuck yourself. Fuck you, Judy. That's not a fucking salad to begin with. Yeah.

That's an array of fucking gross things that nobody wants to eat. Asparagus? Like, what?

“What are you just going to chew on a bunch of asparagus for an hour?”

Oh, and she had a hot tea. Fuck off. [LAUGHTER] Good. Just my natural enemy, this woman.

Yeah. And she also told a reporter she was looking forward to seeing the face of Jesus. Oh, oh, Judy. That news.

It doesn't work like that.

She was actually seeing the fingers of the devil in reality. Not the face of Jesus. Jesus was like, oh. I'm not going to be there for you. She told, and I don't know if it was Suestra or another reporter.

But she did tell a reporter before it happened. Obviously before it happened. [LAUGHTER] But like a while before when she was asked, she said her final words are going to be via condios. But on the actual day when she got walked to the chair, and they asked her if she had any final words.

She said no sir. Hmm. Now, here's a poem written by Judy. When oh, on you. Ready?

Everyone close your eyes. Everyone close your eyes. [LAUGHTER] I just want to soak this in. [INAUDIBLE]

Are you closing your eyes? [LAUGHTER] Don't be fooled by me. Don't be fooled by the face I wear. For I wear a thousand masks.

Masked. I'm afraid to take off. And none of them are me.

“Pretending is an art that second nature to me.”

But don't be fooled. For God's sake. Don't be fooled. [LAUGHTER] Wow.

That's Judy. That's Judy. Oh, shit. Shit. That's what I do it.

Shit. Do it. Not there. There. Is that her?

[LAUGHTER] Oh my gosh. Look at her. Look at her. Look at her.

She's like seriously go fuck yourself if you think I'm guilty. She's like hot tea and vegetables. Oh, I love tomato so much. Tomatoes. Wait, I think there might be one more.

There's also really good footage of her glaring. When witnesses would come up and testify against her, she would be glaring at them. She's got-- she is very small eyebrows. And in kind of beauty eyes.

Oh. That's what she looked like once who's draw interviewed her much later on. See her snapping. Bye, Judy.

Bye, Judy. [APPLAUSE] Good one. I love this. I know.

Thank you. These are fun. We're firing Stephen and hiring these little clickers. [LAUGHTER] I'm-- we're not really going to do that.

[LAUGHTER] Um, that was great. Thank you for that. Thank you for that.

It's all Judy. Judy. Judy. All right. [APPLAUSE]

And we're back.

Karen, what is it about this story that

“makes it one of your favorites, do you think?”

It's interesting because it's so extreme. But like, when women do stuff like this, oftentimes, either it's an organic issue in the brain, or they have been wronged horribly. Yeah.

Which is a little bit like your story. That's coming up. Right. So it is that kind of thing where sometimes there's that vigilante of like, I've had enough, and I'm not taking it.

I'm going to act like a man. Yeah. And so that part is very compelling to me. But then also, it's just, she killed it seemingly every man in her life. At like any time she could, which is just outrageous.

She kept getting away with it. Yeah. And she's just fascinating. So she has a grandson named Alex Hawkins. And he right now is working on a documentary about his grandmother's case.

And he's asking people to keep an open mind about her life and her crimes, which I think is really interesting.

He's basically saying, yes, she did these horrible things.

But then there was a southern side of her. And she was philanthropic. And she was a nice woman. And like, there's like, that's part of the story as well. That she was like, maybe like a Jacqueline hide.

Which I think is really interesting. And then to me, to lay under. And she was a woman of the early 80s. Where like, you couldn't be thin enough. You couldn't be pretty enough.

You couldn't be blonde enough. You couldn't get a credit card in your own fucking name. You had to have your husband or father sign up for her. Yeah. She owned her own beauty salon.

But I'm sure that the bank didn't care. Which she wanted to get alone or wanted to develop her business. Right. It's all those things where she was probably partially ahead of her time. Definitely abused as a child.

There's all those terrible, perfect storm things. I don't know. She's fascinating. You pick that story. And then I picked this one, this next one.

Which I get a lot of comments on still. It like it comes up a lot. Really? Yeah. I mean, it's a fucking heavy hitter.

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I lean more now. Come on. I feel like it's.

“I feel like it's very important to say right now.”

Okay. The employees of the Hard Rock app day and any. Any partners or loved ones that are here that have never listened. We are not cheering. For a serial killer.

That's not what's happening. This this screaming like the except for Whisper County. This is not. This is not for murder. No.

It's about knowing about her. Yeah. It's about staying up at night and scaring the living shit out of yourself. Reading about what she did.

And finally, you're not alone.

While you're going to be hearing about it. Yeah. This is one of those. Oh, this was from January 2nd 1992. When I stayed up all fucking night after watching date line.

Because of this murder, I saw her picture and I stopped plucking my eyebrows. There's just a lot of emotional connection. Yeah. Okay. All right.

This is a rough run because on one hand you have as a female. You have so much empathy for her until she starts really murdering people. And. And then it's gone. So it's a tricky.

It's a tricky situation. As life is. It is. So between November 1989 and November 1990. I leave Warnows killed seven men along the highways of central Florida. Let's.

Let's. Let's start in Rochester, Michigan, though. Okay.

So she's more only Warnows is born in Rochester.

Michigan February 1956. Her mom Diane was 14 years old when she got gets married to the dad. They have a son named Keith when she's 15. I lean when she's 16. Can you fucking imagine?

I think of yourself. Okay. When you were 14 years old. Having a fucking baby. Nope.

I could barely handle Doritos. I couldn't imagine alone. I had to have them taken out of my hand. I still have to say take these away from me. Yeah.

So when I'm eating something. And at 14. Oh. Yeah. All right.

So that's where we're starting. It's hard. Okay. Let's fucking do it.

“And you want to see a photo of her when she's in this place?”

Yes. Will it grow? I know. And she's pretty. So fucking dark.

Yeah. Um. Thank you, lighting person. I know. So it's on it.

Like paying attention. We are at the hard rock fucking cast out. I know. They're like, yeah, we do this every night. Yeah.

This isn't the last resort bar. We'll get to that later. Oh, shit. No. That's because I want to go party at the last resort bar.

So bad. Okay. Okay. I lien's father. Let's hear about him.

Two months before I lien is born. He's incarcerated. He's diagnosed as schizophrenia. Later convicted of raping and kidnapping a seven year old girl. Don't worry.

He hangs himself in prison when she's 12 years old. She's never. She never meets him. Oh my God. It's weird.

Again, they're not clapping about, you know. January 1960, when I lien's almost four years old. Mom, Diane, abandoned them. The kids leave them with their grandparents. They legally adopt her.

“And I think it's one of those situations where she didn't know that until she was older.”

I lien. So a lot of this stuff is everyone. Everyone in her past is dead. All the men that she killed can't say exactly what happened. So it's all based on her own.

Story. So we don't know completely what's true. But there is a lot of collaboration based on the kids she grew up with. So she says that her alcoholic grandfather sexually assaulted her. Beat her when she was a child.

In exchange for cigarettes and drugs and food.

“She also engages in sexual activities with her brother.”

Yeah. And then so they would hang out. All the burnouts would hang out. And I'm sure you had a place like this in Sacramento. Because I have fucking had a place like this in Irvine, California.

So the pits. And it was like in the forest. The fucking like just the gross area where the like the burnouts would hang out. You know what I mean? Yes.

Did you have one of those? Can I tell you? Well, it's Petaluma. And we called it the rock. Because there was a hill behind like a convoluted hospital.

Great. You'd pull into the parking lot. And then you'd walk up this hill for like a half a mile. And then there was just a rock that we'd all go sit on and drink like fucking keys down light or whatever. Well, it turned out.

And I never put it together.

The rock was in I could see my house from the rock. I could see like my parents watching TV from there. But it was like I would say half a mile away. Finally, one time my sister goes, yeah, we can hear you got everywhere. You guys say out there.

Because there's nothing between the rock and my parents' house. So we got the out there just like plug in voices. Can we?

“And they heard they knew exactly what we were doing.”

And they knew exactly what we were talking about the entire time. That's so smart. It's kind of genius. I mean, not on our part. No.

It's stupid. You get home and your mom's like, I know you're eating Doritos. Yeah. And you had to have them taken away from you, Karen. That's actually when I got caught smoking clothes.

Yeah. Because I was so gone. Because you smelled like a fucking spice cabinet. Yeah, she was like, hey, hey, Chris was ham once up. But she came in.

She did the classic, you know, psychiatric nurse move on me. She held up the clothes that she found in my pocket when she was doing the laundry. And she goes, you can smoke these if you want. But they put glass in them and they cut your lungs. Which is a fucking straight-up lie.

But I never smoked a cloth again.

Yeah, do that. It's not fun when your mom's like, go ahead. I'm doing it. Shit. What you fucking do?

Yeah. Like, oh, I was doing this long. She cared. She wanted you to quit. Um, okay.

So she'd hang out with them.

“She said that she, you know, there was a lot of sexual activity going on.”

And she was raped. And later, people from the town in this documentary I was watching said that she was treated very badly. Yeah. Oh, here's a photo of her at, like, 14 years old. Which is like, oh, she kind of looks like me when I was at age.

Like, the skinny kind of awkward nerd. Uh, I know. Okay. Did she have her own boat? What?

[ Laughter ] Life really sucked.

But she did have her own boat.

Lucky. [ Laughter ] 1970. At age 14, she gets pregnant, um, possibly by a friend of the family, a older man. Yeah.

She gives birth to a boy in a home for unwed mothers, and the kids place up the child's place for adoption. A few months later, she drops out of school. Her grandmother dies. Her grandfather kicks her out of the house. So she's supporting herself as a sex worker.

Um, lives in the woods for a while. Then hits the fucking road at 16. And hitchhikes around the country for five years. Where's that baby? It adopted.

Oh, good. And I don't. Yeah. She ends up eventually in 1976 in Daytona Beach, Florida. [ Cheers and applause ]

Here she is. Okay. She meets a 69-year-old yacht club president. Uh-oh. Name Lewis Grants fell.

She marries him. And she's 22 at this time. She's 22. 69. That's fine.

No. They're just -- they're just grossed out by this. What is it? Something December romance? Oh, made a summer yacht.

Yeah. Yeah. And they don't like love. It turns out really not. [ Laughter ]

Um, so -- But she's still getting in confrontation. She's kind of a brawler. She's -- She's --

She's had it totally shit. Yeah. And how she knows is hitchhiking and fucking staying alive. Yeah. Uh, so they get -- they're fighting all the time.

She kind of loses it all the time. She gets -- has he's like bursts of anger. And she -- eventually hits him with his own cane. Oh. And he gets a restraining order against her.

Their marriage is a null after only nine weeks. I'm just picturing Anna Nicole Smith's wedding picture. [ Laughter ] But just slightly different. Yes.

That's exactly what it's like, right? Picture Anna Nicole Smith is a little mether. Okay. Um, he's a little bit younger. Okay.

Like, snazzy. You know, he's got his wedding cap on. He's kind of rich. Okay.

Yes. Yes.

And Anna -- and Anna Nicole Smith.

[ Laughter ] Horrible. Nice. It's not fun at all. [ Laughter ]

Okay.

“So then her brother, Keith buys throat cancer.”

Um, devastating to her. They're actually really close. Um, he was kind of -- yeah, it's weird. It's a weird relationship, obviously. Oh.

Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Then her grandfather dies from her parent's suicide. So she's on her fucking own. Yeah. After her divorce, she has tons of runs with the law. She's arrested for drunk driving.

Florida prison for arm -- arm robbery. She robbs a liquor store in a bikini. [ Laughter ] The inspiration for the film's bring breakers. There you go.

[ Laughter ] She -- she does it in bikini. She gets the fuck out. Drives away. Her car breaks down down the road.

She gets caught. [ Laughter ]

“I know that she ends up being a very bad person.”

But she also has the worst fucking luck of all time. Yeah, sounds like. She is not mentally stable. Right. Clearly.

Um, no, no, no, no, no. A bikini throned in 1983 returns to sex work. Around 1986, she meets what would become really the love of her life. 24-year-old Tyra Moore. Uh, they meet at a Daytona Beach gay bar.

And, um, she's a hotel maid. She -- in the movie monster, she's played by Christina Ritchie. She does not look like Christina Ritchie. [ Laughter ] That was a stretch.

Even when they cut all of Christina Ritchie's hair off, she does not look like Christina Ritchie. Yeah. But she's like a cute young thing. You know what I mean?

Youth gives everyone good luck. [ Laughter ] Um, they meet. And Tyra's a lesbian. And weirdly, uh, I mean, it's not really a lesbian.

She just finally has someone who loves her for who she is.

She wants to be loved. Yeah. She has someone who wants to stick by her. She has someone she can take care of.

“But almost seems like that's what she always needed.”

Because she had had relationships men in the past or all disastrous, et cetera, et cetera. They go home that night together and they move in together. Um, and I mean, as really controlling over her, so she makes her quit her job. And she says she's going to earn money with sex work to take care of her. And Tyra didn't approve of it, but, you know what I mean?

Okay. [ Laughter ] So, there's a book called Dear Dawn. Warnos in her own words. So, this chick, Dawn, bought Ken's, was her best friend from when she was a teenager.

And when I think that ends up in prison, she just sends her, like, four letters a day of, like, it's crazy stuff, but they published a book about it. Um, so she, she says to Dawn that when she was in a gay relationship, she starts getting triggered by all these awful things that are happening to them. Because it's, um, Florida in the mid-80s, lesbians, you know, not allowed.

Not allowed. So, they say, um, like, one of the neighbors kills their pets because they're lesbians, living together. Um, and she said it fueled the fire within. They couldn't find a place to live.

No one would let them live there together. And if they did, like, raise their rent really high because they were lesbians. Um, so I mean, feels like she has to hustle. Um, she carries a gun with her. And she's just really unstable.

She starts hitchhiking and she starts, uh, stealing from people. Okay.

So, this is when her first murder takes place.

November 30th, 1989 and Clearwater. [audience cheering] Richard Mallory, he's a 51-year-old electronics repairman. He picks Eileen up outside of Tampa. She's just hitchhiking. Then she prop positions him. He agrees.

They pull off the road and they drink and talk until dawn. Which is just so weird. And again, this is all. This is all based on her. Selling what happened, obviously.

We don't know. Okay. Eventually, she shoots him four times in the chest in the back. She takes his money, hides him in the woods, under a carpet. And takes his car back to Tyra.

She tells Tyra that she killed the student took his car. Tyra is like, I didn't believe her. Um, so she says. I mean, no. Thousands of years of labor.

Uh, then two weeks later, Richard's body is found in a wooded area in, and I wrote this phonetically, "The Lucha County." [audience cheering]

Thanks. [audience cheering] Now isn't Felicia in the Middle East somewhere? [audience laughing] After a six-month break, after killing Richard Mallory,

on June 1st, 1990, the body of David Spears, a 43-year-old construction worker in winter garden, is found. [audience cheering] There's a lot of cities here.

Get ready to cheer for your city.

[audience laughing]

“He's found nude along Florida State Road, 19, in Citrus County.”

[audience cheering] He's been shot six times. Then June 6, 1990, Charles Scotton. He's 40 part-time rodeo workers, bodies found in Pascal County.

[audience cheering] He's been shot nine times with a 22. 1990, Peter Siam's leaves Jupiter, Florida, for Arkansas. He's 65, we're tired of merchant salmon,

who devoted much of his time to Christian outreach ministry. On July 4th, 1990, his car is found in Orange Springs, Florida. And then, so, Tyra and Eileen are seeing abandoning his car. And after they accidentally got my car accident, and he's got some car trouble.

[audience laughing] Making a car accident, like people are like, "Hey, can we help you?" And they're like, "Nope, and just run into the fucking wilderness, 'cause they're like this car." She prized the license plate out with their bigger fucking hands,

and they book it from this car. And the family's just standing there? Ma'am, ma'am. Are you okay? Yeah, fine.

Yeah.

And so, they're like, "Here's what she looked like."

And at this point, they're like, "What? We don't know why all these men are turning up dead with the same gun." They kind of know there's a serial killer at this point going on. So, they find out the car is come from this guy

who went up, went missing, so they have their photos and the drawings and the paper at this point. And they get Eileen's fingerprints off the car, which were on file, because she got in. And so, much trouble before.

Remember, the bikini-- I sure didn't. So, they're looking for her at this point. So, then, she kills Troy Burris. He's 50 years old, sausage salesman from...

(audience laughs) O'Kala? (audience cheers) O'Kala? O'Kala?

What they say? O'Kala.

“You were able to get O'Kala out of the second out of that?”

Because I knew I was one of two things. Okay. And I knew that I was probably going to get it wrong. They should put accents over these vowels that are so important.

I mean, it would be nice. And then on July--so, he, on July 31, 1990, he's reported missing. And then August 4th, 1990, his body is found in a wooded area along state road 19,

in Marion County. He's much hot twice. Charles DeComprey, 56, September 11, 1990, retired U.S. Air Force Major, former state child abuse investigator.

(audience cheers) And former chief of police on September 12, 1990, his body is found in Marion County. He's fully clothed, had been shot six times in the head and torso,

and his car is later found in Suwani County. (audience cheers) Now, seems like he did it right. (audience laughs) We're not enough people care.

(audience laughs) They're like, just say what you want. We don't like that place that much. (audience laughs) Walter Antonio, aged 62.

He's a trucker, security guard police, reservist November 19, 1990, his nearly nude body is found near remote logging road in Dixie County. He'd been shot four times, five days later, his car is found as well.

So, then, finally they're like looking for her.

They track her down to a biker bar in Port Orange called the last resort. (audience cheers) Yelp did, still there, for real? Oh, hell yeah.

And there's a picture on the wall that said, "I lean more now, so how'd her last beer here?" (audience laughs) And it's to it. (audience laughs)

After party, you guys in? (audience laughs) That's like, kind of nice. There's a bar somewhere that's like us. (audience laughs)

A whole bar full of drugs that's just like, they were like, this should out. Are you freaking out? I'm freaking out. Let's all freak out.

It's so good. (audience gasps) Yeah, okay. They grab her, they find Tyra who at this point was like, I'm getting the fuck outta here and went gone back home.

She, they find her and they're like, listen. We don't think you did anything.

“So, you need to get a confession and we won't prosecute you.”

So, she was like, all right, calls are like, how about these calls from the fucking motel. Finally, Eileen's like, "I'll come fast, so you don't get in trouble for it." So, but she did help, right?

She didn't get a bedding. She, I think that she, she says she only knew about the one that the first one. And she didn't believe Eileen. She didn't believe the other 18.

(audience laughs)

She says Eileen didn't want her own never told her about that.

Oh, okay. She was just getting cars and money. That's all she knew about. She thought she was stealing them. But wasn't she there when they ran into the woods

after they got into the car accident? Yeah, but she said this car's stolen.

Oh, okay. I don't even. Okay. I just don't buy it. Okay.

(audience laughs) Yeah, okay.

“So Eileen ends up confessing to all the murders in detail,”

but she along with the help of her defense claims

they were all in self-defense that all the men had attacked her and tried to rape her and kill her. Except, she shot them six to nine times. Yeah. And a lot of them were clothed.

There was no. I don't know. Yeah, okay. Yeah. All right.

So then, this, the fucking trial blows up. Do you remember it? Yes. Do you? Right.

And people are trying to make money left and right off for books and movies even like some of the cops are like trying to get movie deals out of it. And then this woman named Arlene Prale. She's like, I just saw her on TV and I needed to, I knew she was innocent.

I don't know if she's Southern. And I needed to be friends with her. Yeah, it's the best voice. Yeah. I just knew in my heart that she's, you know, whatever.

And she's like, and I needed to know her. And I think they had money so she was going to like help her with. But she's like, and I wanted to talk to her.

“But the only way they could get into prison to talk to her was if you were related to her.”

So she and her husband adopt her. What the fuck? Can I tell you how excited I was when I heard that today? In the hotel? Yes.

I was just like, they're going to love that part. Adopt her. And this woman, not surprisingly, turns out to be a fucking crazy person. Yeah. And so making like $50,000 off of like,

once did you like an art show to like put up all of my lean drawings and stuff is selling all the shit to the media. And I lean later. It was like fucked up bitch. It took her out of her fucking life. It's almost like a bad version of the blind side.

Oh, yeah. It's like, if the blind side was a fucked up super dark life. Yeah. Yeah. Sex.

Bless her heart. Bless her heart though. Okay. So I lean.

And you see these videos of her and there's just, she's clearly a million different people.

She's so crazy sometimes. And so sympathetic and sad sometimes. She takes the psychopathy checklist, test thing. Which means, which if you get 30 points, you're legally a psychopath or whatever. And she gets 32.

Yes. She passed, she fucking nailed the test. The test. I lean. It's the first time that you succeeded in your life.

They didn't like that. They really didn't. It was fucking side are you on. They didn't turn on you now. You're right, you're right.

She is diagnosed with borderline and anti-social personality disorder and her love of her life. Tyra ends up testifying against her. Yeah. Which she just liked.

I don't think she realized that she was turning on her like that. So yeah. And then she gets sentenced to sentence to death. Compared to the next few first degree murder sentence to death says to the jury as they're walking out.

I hope you all get raped. Oh my god. You can't say that. No. That's fucking horrible.

Yeah. And they she says that when they can turn them the next day they have to go back in for sentencing. And she's like, shut.

“Probably like, have you noticed the borderline thing?”

Yeah. That's what happened yesterday. Today I'm fine. Don't be mad about that rape. Don't.

Okay. Guys. Because I was just upset. I take it back. Really.

I can be that way sometimes. That's like when you stand up at a table and like tell people off and walk out. And then you're like, sorry. I didn't get my purse. I left my purse on the chair.

Oh. I don't know. I lean. I know. Come on.

Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. That's cheap comedy.

And I don't want you to support me in it. Please. Horrifying. So after almost 20 years in solitary lockdown. On July 1st, 2001, at the age.

Okay. When she was convicted, she was 36 years old. Hi. That's a year younger than me. If you see these photos of her, you're like down.

That could be my adopted mother. What? Fuck. Okay. Did she do math instead?

No. Yeah. She was an alcoholic. Extremely alcoholic. Okay.

She says a lot of these things were done in blackouts. Alcoholic. Yeah. Matthew. Matthew.

I'm going to say, though, as a blackout alcoholic. I didn't get anything done.

Nice to hear because I always thought, like, maybe I'm just a bad blackout drunk.

Because I don't blackout often.

“But if I do, it's because I fell the fuck asleep.”

Yeah. Is that blackout? We've like a weird taco on your chest or something. Or you're just like, oh, I wanted to have that at the time. What's up now?

Just a taco from Jack in the box, I guess, is what I'm thinking. We're in taco or the one in a good taco. Like, not like, you didn't go to the taco truck and get a good taco. You're just like, oh, no, no, no. Or the one that they have now with the egg is the taco.

That's a weird taco. What is it? It's like a fucking, I just. I keep spit out. I spit so much this whole time.

It's like an, you don't want to know. What? It's like an egg. Like, let's say a hard, or a fried egg. And then they used to use the fried egg as the taco show.

What for? For breakfast, taco. I don't understand. I've only seen photos.

It's Taco Bell, isn't it?

It's Taco Bell. It's like a, it's Taco Bell. It's like a, it's Taco Bell. It's like a, it's Taco Bell. It's not be legal.

That shouldn't, it's not legal that. Whenever you see like an egg and like, no, it's not scrambled. You're like, oh, it's a real egg. I know this where this came from. Like, what do they do to that egg to make it look like it's in a real same thing?

I forgot to put those ones in their refrigerator for nine months. Now they're babies. We thought they kept. We thought they kept. Okay.

Shit. We should, I feel like, from now on at the top of the show, we should go over any new fast food that I haven't heard of. Because my mind just wasn't blown right now. Yesterday, when we, when we were in Tampa,

and I was telling Karen, you've been there.

You've been asked to see those killers.

I was telling Karen and everyone else here, the audience about a murder that happened in Lando Lakes. And Karen lost her fucking mind. I didn't know that was a real place where the butter came from. I didn't even.

I, I became legitimately star struck by a city that produces butter. I'm not putting you down because I didn't know till I was hearing my research. And I was like, what? It's crazy. It's just, oh, God bless it.

There are good things that happen in this world. All sorts.

“It's just nice to remember that positivity.”

There's a lake filled with butter somewhere in Florida. I love that. I love that. Put that on the positivity board. Put it on the positivity board.

Next time. That won't get you fired. Probably. Don't forget, Lando Lakes, everybody. Edward, get in here now.

Stop using the positivity board. It was Edward. Yeah. Good. So, after almost 20 years solitary fucking lockdown.

Writing awful. Yeah. Writing dawn. Crazy fucking letters for four days, four times a day. And these are bananas letters.

Sometimes they're not. It's really fucking sad. For a moment, I hadn't read about a lot of this. For a moment, I felt really bad for her. And then I was like, oh, wait a minute.

She fucking killed a bunch of people. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

At the age of 45, she goes up to the state. And is like, can we stop it with it mandated appeals? Can you just kill me? No. Yeah.

She's like, I'm sick of all the fucking tax payer money. You know, I'm sick of this. It's bullshit.

“And they were like, hey, remember when you said you wanted us to be raped?”

The answer is now. Well, she was like, people, every time that I get that the appeals get a return. Some fucking big wig. Politician gets like his bump because he fucking, you know. You know.

Yes, sir. And that's the guy who's hard on crime. And like, she's, she's kind of over it. And crazy. Yeah.

So she said, she says, look, bros, the murders weren't, weren't self-defense. I fucking killed them because I robbed them and I didn't want any witnesses. So they're like, okay, let's do it. And so at the, I'm paraphrasing. At the case you were like, what happened to our legal system?

Well, and because that in and of itself could be a lie. I mean, like, there's, so it's a great area. She just, like, back later, but I don't know how to feel about her. I know. The age of 46 years old, October 9, 2002, she is put to death.

She said, on the stand that when she's doing this thing, I kill again. I have hate crawling through my system. Oh. And I've said 2002.

Did it right? That's silent, did it right. And I went out. Wow. But.

Yeah, that's the thing. That is the thing. Yeah. Who wants a jewelry box? We don't have them.

We're time for a quick home tour.

We do too. Okay, we're back. Are there any updates for this case?

“I think really new to report in October of 2025.”

Netflix did just release the documentary. Eileen Queen of the serial killers, which explores Eileen's case. It's got a lot of great information. So check that out if you're interested. And then also the owner of the last resort bar, which I have a t-shirt from from that show.

Someone brought me. Oh, that's right. Remember? That's yes. So the owner of that bar, Al Bulling, owns some of Eileen's belongings and believes that she

wants his bar. And I feel like it almost seems like she's wanted there, which is like a nice little button on that, where she was just so, you know, such an outcast. Yes. Like that's somewhere she belonged as opposed to haunting this strip of highway where she's

disabled. It's definitely a nicer idea. Totally. Okay. Now we're going to go back into this live show and listen to a hometown from the audience.

Um, tell them the rules. There's rules. They're really quick.

Let's just do some rules really quick.

It would be nice if your hometown that you have is from Florida. It's just more fun, right? Because then other people can yell at whatever city you name. It's good if you're not so drunk that you lose your own place in your own story. But that's up to you and you can't read off paper.

Those are the rules.

“So with that in mind, it's Georgia's night to pick.”

I don't torture them. Okay. You're there. I got high. Uh-oh.

Okay. But go over there, Vince. Vince is right over there. Here, bring in a sunglasses. How are you going to get out?

Yeah, just come over this. Oh, can she climb around the door? Oh, my God. Yeah, save some time. Yes.

I love this. Yes. Right down there. Thank you. Thank you for that.

I saw her face when you went.

You can't be that. She was raising her hand. Then you go, you can't be that drunk. And she goes, that's me. She got so excited that she wasn't that drunk.

I cried on the verge. But she go. Uh-oh.

“Oh, Vince is like, "Go get my sunglasses."”

So much pressure. Where'd she go? There's she comes. She's shooting. She's parting backstage.

Uh-oh. Come on, honey. Get out of here. Amen. Amen.

Amen. Okay. What's going on? What's going on? Christen.

Christen. This is Christen. Come over here. Stand on the magic road. Okay.

Yeah. Here we go. Where are you from? No. Nice to meet you.

Yeah. Okay. So this one is about my mom's best friend when she was like 20-21. She went over to her best friend Catherine's house because they were planning her wedding because she was engaged Catherine.

She was engaged to this guy. Um, name Keith. And when they went over there, Catherine was missing because she, I guess, to go get hair dye or something. But she never came back.

Um, she's, um, cops come and they have found her body. Um, in the trunk of the car, she's been beaten and stabbed. Um, and it turns out, I'm going to make it pretty short. It turns out that her, um, her fiance Catherine's fiance Keith's best friend Danny. Um, actually really hated Catherine and was in love with Keith.

Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, oh, oh. Yes. This is a new one. Yeah.

Wow. Yeah. And it, but it gets even better. Well, not better. Yeah.

Yeah. We're still going to get it. Definitely worse. Definitely worse. Yeah.

Definitely worse. Um, well, it turns out that he used to like make our, Danny used to make fun of Catherine all the time because apparently we find out what happens. Yeah.

And it's just a call for the lazy pig, like, to even call her lazy pig all the time. That's not a fun. They found her car behind a restaurant called the lazy pig. No. Is that here in Orlando or what?

It's not any longer. But yes, it was. What? What kind of restaurant was it? I'm going to go with barbecue.

I don't know. Wow. Makes sense. That's a good deduction. Something.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, did that on purpose, like, to send them? No.

They actually did not find out it was him until a really long time after.

Um, he was part of the KC Anthony. Oh, yeah.

“He, he, um, he started a whole cold case thing in Orlando.”

And she was actually the very first cold case that they solved. Wow. So it wasn't until long time after. But like, what? We got a guy.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I want to say probably a good 15. Oh, wow.

Yeah. Because this happened in the early 70s, and they didn't find out to, like, more towards late 80s. Wow. Can you imagine this whole time, your friends, like, keeps, like, fucking crying and a friends helping them.

And then it turned out to be on my with, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because he was, like, he said he was consoling and everything. And what a creep.

Yeah. And it was, like, definitely, like, a passion murder. Yeah. And what was her name? Catherine.

Catherine. Oh, honey. Which is what really matters. Yeah. Exactly.

Wow. That was horrifying. Yeah. The lazy pig part is a creeps man. Lazy pig is the fucking war.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. You would have loved that jewelry box. I feel bad now.

Yeah.

“Because I was, like, what if we give it to someone?”

And then, like, I don't want this shit. And that's, like, she would love it. This is pretty cool. I'm going with this. Okay.

Okay. Yes. Christian, everybody. That was great. Great.

Great. So good. Should we give her Vincent sunglasses as a gift? That was awesome. Yeah, wow.

Well done. Uh-huh. Elyse. Keep your eyes peeled for the friend of the boy for that. Yeah.

Dick to you. Just yes.

There's always something.

Boys, don't let your friends be dicks to your girlfriends. And moms don't let your babies grab to be cowboy. That's, I would say that's more important. That's a better. Yeah.

We're back. So this episode was originally titled "Live at the Hard Rock in Orlando." But if we were naming it today, we would call it based on the episode. Lady Bucks didn't for sure. It's got to be.

What a name. What a perfect name. And then also, that's not glitter, baby. The piece of fucking confetti. That's just, oh.

The Lou down it at this woman's lap. Like, she was fucking blessed. It was amazing. It's so weird. It's like my mentor.

I'm getting flashes of this show.

“Because it had those big boxes that kind of went up into the sky, right?”

Like it looked futuristic in the theater. Yeah. It looked like an actual amphitheater. But yeah. That was also, and described the interior of that jewelry box.

I did salmon on the inside, which aren't we all? Same on the inside. And then also, and we called it the rock, which is your burnout hangout, which I want to go to. Take me there, please.

My wine cooler rock. I think it's all grown over now. Oh. All right. Well, thanks to you guys for listening to ReWind.

Let's go say goodbye from the Orlando live show. [MUSIC] Fuck Orlando. I mean, that. Thank you.

I feel like that went so fast. It's good. That was really fast.

What a fucking incredible show.

Thank you so much for getting tickets, standing in line, doing all this. Yeah. Thank you for having us. Florida was not the state that I didn't want to go to. I wanted to come here because you guys just have so many murders.

Yeah, I mean, so excited. It's crazy. The choices. It was an embarrassment of riches. Yeah.

Oh, now you guys have to let Kristen sit down. But as she passes, tell her what a great job. Great job. Great job. We really appreciate you guys all being here.

Mostly because you are enabling us to have this be our only job, which is fucking there. And a dream come true. We're so lucky. Thank you guys for supporting us through this whole insane fucking thing. That's crazy.

And thank you for being here with us. And stay sexy. And don't get it. [MUSIC] I'm Michelle McPhee.

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“This season on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea and there.”

We have some fantastic guests like Amelia Clark.

When like young people come off to me and they want to be at act or whatever.

“My first thing is always, can you think of anything else?”

You can do rather big.

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