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(upbeat music) - Hello. - Hello. - Welcome back. Welcome back, end of the week.

We're sponsored by Boost this Saturday. We have our pop-up shop for our merch. Come through one to six. - Cafe Colmado. - Yes.

- This is Boom Street, pull-up on us. We'll be there. Ryan, it just has been practicing all week on his DJ set. - You're Ryan, it's a lot of pressure on you Saturday. I've been telling, I've been telling A, body.

I'm like, "Yo Ryan, this is first gig."

- Is that his first gig? - I mean, you're the first gig in New York. - Okay, fair. - First gig in New York. - Only gig in Maddie.

- You mean, it's the only gig that Maddie's. - Only gig in New York for your first in your last. - First gig in New York, say this everybody's looking forward to your, to your set. I'm not to put a lot, I want too much pressure on you, right?

I don't want to put too much pressure on you. But you, the player situation was good.

“- Yeah, that's how many of us, that's how many of us.”

- Are you Sunday's on? - See, Zip's gonna send you two more. It's gonna be 30 minutes a month, I was about to say. It's gonna be sending, it's gonna be, they play cool, do you wrap at that cafe anyways?

- No, that's gonna be the same. - Cafe call moderately, definitely a hip hop, freely established, so it won't be too far out the warehouse, but we are doing it right now. - Did you get a shuffle on that playlist?

- Yeah, it's no skips. - On the playlist, you something? - It's not a skips. - Send me to, send me to playlist at Zip's entry, 'cause I don't know, man.

'Cause Zip told me one, that forgot who album you said was a classic, and I looked at you like, "MobD, the worry port." No, it wasn't that one. - I wouldn't give you too much flash.

- You said get rich in it, die-trying is not a classic, so there's that, there's that, there's that. - There's that, there's that. - All right, there's a classic album, if there's two skips on the classic album,

is that a classic album? Is ready to die a classic album? - Yes. - Yes. - It's two skips on here.

I can skip through, she's right.

I live for the funk, I die for the poop.

- Let me get that out of here.

“- That's what you mean, yeah, that's not a skip to me though.”

- Yeah, it was gonna say, like, "Oh, it's not a skip to me." - Oh, it's not a skip to me though. - It's not a skip to me though. - It's not a skip to me though.

- This is the second time you went that big.

- No, I'm just saying it and it ain't been niggas with him. You're like, "Well, why he disrespecting, "you know what I'm saying? "I'm saying what he thinks I'm saying." - I know what I'm saying, but what is it about big in particular?

- That's right. - You go right the big. - Because those are the classics, like we know the classics. - That's a, okay, okay. - We know the classics.

- Yeah, yeah. - After a while, you go to skips and shit on the classic, is, is, is, um, what was the name of that shit? - I think give it to that trying because it ain't-- - Oh, lies on me, is all lies on me in classic.

- Yes, yes, that's Park's classic. - Is there not five skips on that album? - I don't know, I got it back. - I got it back, I got it back. - Baby, let me give you a call, how much will it take to break you?

If you really want it, please. (laughing) - You kidding? - Go on then. - But look, that's not it.

- But that's another one of the greatest that we lost. Like, what is it, what you going at the grades that we lost, that's no longer here? Like, people deemed that to be like, "Come on, that's a little disrespectful."

You can't go at the grades that's not here. - So if I see a ugly ass, my collangelo paying, and I say that's ugly, they're going to say, "Oh, y'all, you can't go out to grades." He's no longer here.

- But that's not our coach, that's not our coach. That's not our coach. That's not our coach. We're talking about our coach, hip-hop. 'Cause you went that big, then Park.

- You listen, I spend money on these niggas.

These niggas ain't never spent money on me.

I could say with the fuck, I want to say about your spend money on these shit. - That's the fuck. - Five skips all lies on me, do I gotta go back and listen to it?

- I'm like, I don't know if this does. - Don't who CD, definitely five skips on that shit, if two thousand bucks. - Okay, but if it's a double, that came out 30 years ago, 31 years ago, 30 years ago. - But you just said machine gun, fuck, is a skip.

And that's crazy to me. - All I want is bitches, big booty bitches, just a pack of guts. (laughing) - Yo, well, when I went to big, big kids are opening up a restaurant. I went to like the tasting for the shit.

And when I walked in, I thought, I was like, "Is it just called their father gay?" - Yesterday. (laughing) - So, I don't know if I should be walking in that shit.

- Yeah, like what's up with you, bitch? - I didn't call your gay, I just said he was the king of the gay raps. He was either, don't what it's. - No, I'm not gonna know about that. - Okay, I'm just saying nasty shit.

- Okay, say mad nasty shit. - Oh, I don't respect that.

“- Okay, I mean, you ain't saying anything, isn't it?”

- Right. - He had nice little bitches. - But he just had some questions. - He had some bars that he said, it was kind of a little-- - I don't lie.

- Yeah, what you would you say? Why are you landing on that, big? That's all I understand, I don't get it. - But it's classy, some skips. It skips on it when that shit--

- I think if it's more than two, then it can be a good out. And that's the thing, I think people-- why we just can't say you're that out of the door. - But sometimes out of the door. - It ain't time.

We can get caught up in them when they come out or this shit is fire. We bump in this, we're jagging it. And then fire is lady, they don't hit the same normal. - Right. - So it's not timeless.

Like, like, I always say a big got the best rap out of more old time

than me. I don't think nobody made it better out of them than that. Me personally, I don't think nobody made it more complete album than life after death. I feel like that shit got every kind of song going on.

It got a fun shit, it got shit to eat. It's bullshit and rap play, oh, hey no. It got every type of vibe is on that album. - So to you, life after death will be the best hip hop album. - Yes.

- I don't know if I shared that sentiment with you, but that is one of my favorite albums, though. I don't know if it's better than that. - Take care.

“- I think reasonable doubt is a better album than that.”

The life after that. Try out the bottom. Like if you listen to reasonable doubt today, there's no skips on it. - I don't think there's any skips on life after death today.

- Yeah, but I was just crazy as a double dislike. - But I mean, the music is better. - I think the music is better on life after death. I think it's way better production on life after death than reasonable doubt.

- Yeah. - Yeah, the production is definitely better. - reasonable doubt. - That's great production. Don't get it.

- Yeah, but it's way better beat. - But life after death. - Beat selection is, you could make a case it's like the best produced hip hop album until you get to some congeyship.

But life after death has the best beats. - Out of those beats, it's cool. Out of them two albums for sure. And I'm saying, and I like, I came outside of them, shit's fine.

That amazing boot down. Like I was really hustling in that shit. I knew that, knew what he was saying. A lot of that shit was fine over my head then, but I understand it.

Are you going to listen to that shit right now or should it be like? - Reason that shit? - 30 years ago, bro. - Reason with that?

- Yeah. - Yeah, I mean, that's why, you know, what Jay doing the shows at Yankee Stadium, you know, I'm laughing, looking at A by the end of that that's like, and there, you know, early 30s, late 20s,

and they raven about this and I'm just like, yeah, I don't even, yeah, I think it wasn't even, that was either just born or, you know what I'm saying? Like, was three years old when that album came out.

To see people 30 years later still,

like so much excitement and energy around the idea

“that Jay is doing a show based on that album.”

I think it's dope. But it's just funny to see like younger cats like really raven and going crazy to get tickets for it. - I hate to age this, 'cause I was six years old when reasonable doubt came out,

but no, I don't know what the experience of walking outside when reasonable doubt was going on. - But even that was, it wasn't like a big release. - You know what I mean? - Like 20 all that experienced that.

- No, ain't no nigga with that. - We all went back to reasonable doubt to see it. - 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause you know what I mean?

- 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause you know what I mean?

- 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause you know what I mean?

- 'Cause you know what I mean?

- 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause you know what I mean?

- 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause you know what I mean? - 'Cause it was like, I would go to the grocery store,

like, no one knew what the fuck I was when reasonable talking about it. - But it was different back then. - 'Cause it's the right game. - 'Cause it was the first week on the debut,

in '96 they buying physical copies of the shit. - 'Cause like you said, nobody know who he is. That's fire. - Oh, no, I think it's incredible. - 'Cause I would say he had an old nigga,

ain't old nigga was rocking for like a whole year before the album came out. - Yeah, he was an old nigga. - No, him in the box. - No, no, no, no, no.

- Yeah, him in the box. - Yeah, him in the box. - That's how they used to break artists on the soundtrack. - Yeah, the first time you would hear a lot of artists would be on the soundtrack from movie.

It's like, oh, who's that? And you're going looking, like, okay. And then eventually the label, like, okay, that song, call it. Now let's start working this artist

because obviously this is people's favorite song, off the soundtrack and she looked at it. - My favorite pocket is on the soundtrack. - What's one? - Above the rim is so much pain, shit.

They never take me in love, yeah, I'm a full five cock, yeah.

- Yeah, that's my favorite part, shit. - That's a classic soundtrack, a book of the real. - Above the rim, shit was hard. DevRel did the shit. - Yeah, that shit.

- Above the rim is a classic soundtrack.

“That's what I think that's what's missing.”

We need moments like that. Like to attach songs specifically to movies. Where it's like-- - He's naked as a punch in an homie. They ain't writing rhymes anymore.

He's never gonna be like that in a homie, bro. I mean, they kind of, they try to do it sometimes. I was like Black Panther, Kendrick did that. That soundtrack. I think Cole did shit.

I was like the right to such a shit. I forgot what movie that was. Dream though did a whole movie sounds. They've been trying-- there's not like songs anymore though. - It's true.

- It's true. - It's true. It's just full projects that they try to put with. - You see these albums that we talk about, like the classics, and shit like that.

These albums sat with us for mad, long before we got all the music. - Yeah, of course. - Yeah, we get music way too fast. - It's too much shit coming. It's too much music coming down to pipeline.

Paul's like, we get too much music for that shit. - Mm-hmm. - But it's the same thing even with-- It's funny, I saw somebody on Instagram video. He said, "I remember when you would only see

maybe eight bad women in your life. Like, only eight. It will be the best one in the world." - Now I'm a black bitch. - A lot of bad bitches.

- Soon as you press, grow, it's like-- - Yo, homie, I told my man that shit. I said, "Yo, something back in the day, son." It was 10 bad brawls out here, bro. - That's it.

It was 10 bad brawls out here, bro. - That's it, that's it. - That's it. - Only 10 brawls out here. - Only 10 brawls out here.

- That's it. - Only 10 brawls out here. - Only 10 brawls out here. - Only 10 brawls out here. - Only 10 brawls out here.

- Only 10 brawls out here. - Only 10 brawls out here. - Only 10 brawls out here. - Only 10 brawls out here. - Only 10 brawls out here.

- Only 10 brawls out here. - Only 10 brawls out here. - Only 10 brawls out here. - Only 10 brawls out here. - No, at all.

“- Because now it's like, how can I, like, commit to this shit right here?”

- Yeah. - Why would I say it? - Why would I say it? - I saw some shit. I don't know if she's better than you like.

- Yeah. - Sparrowling and mentally, but physically, she's better. It's a lot of them. - I don't know. - You can be doing that too.

- Yeah. - So I know you look different. I don't know if she looks different. - But I want to find out. - Yeah.

- Right. - I think it's just too much. - It's too much. - Pick and choose. - They're brought for the brawls, too though.

- 'Cause they ain't used to know it was all of these niggas jinking in the world. They see you in the hood. - You do it your day.

- But even as a bitch, taking.

- Yeah. - You do it your day. - You was a bitch. - Taking out the hood. - Yeah.

- So she's, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah.

- But you don't speak in the streets.

They want that act like. But you know what I'm saying? - Yeah. - But you know what I'm saying? - Yeah.

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“And you know it takes off and you know he's never been that late.”

He's never been the New York.

He's never been the Chicago or Miami. He's never been outside of his hood. But he did a freestyle in his homeboys basement uploaded it to Instagram. It goes viral. Everybody starts sharing it.

You get a real rapist and a successful artist underneath the post. You know comment and things like that. - So it's like the access. - Yeah. So it goes both ways.

- Give it a sec. - No. - We got AI now and I feel like AI needs to come up with some type of program for Spotify that it has to run through when you upload. And it can say like, nah, we're not wasting data.

- As far as the song is gonna not. - If it's trash, I don't think your man is a piece of shop should have that the ability to just upload his song at any point. Like we're wasting a lot of data. - It takes a whole bottle of water to create a snare with AI right now.

- Oh, you know. - We wasting water on people's broken dreams. - But what if they say y'all I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna look at a bunch of songs that they good throughout history. - So hold it to that level.

- Yeah. - And so now is... - You great that song's your boy. You great that song. - What if we would have that?

- Yeah. (laughing) - Here's the thing. - Here's the thing. - Oh, but the question now is...

- It's a song we don't want. - But it should have not passed the AI test. - What uploaded, but it's a legend. - What the hell are you going for?

“- You're going for the past data though.”

If it's going over past data, all right. Songs that did good. If we don't, we think about songs that did good. - Good. If they do that shit, it might start laying mad bullshit.

Come through like, "No, this is good." - What's that? - That is a good.

- Any one could upload shit.

- Yeah, but it's still, you still have to break through though.

There's still a certain level that the music has to be at in order for it to really break through. Like, we'll sit here and talk about shit that goes viral and debate whether or not, like this is an artist has longevity and have fun with it. But we know the ones that's like, "Oh, this is he just caught a moment." Or she just caught a moment.

Like this ain't gonna be around for two years or even a year.

“Like, I think we still can feel if an artist has that type of talent level with it.”

They're gonna sustain that. - That nigga from Queens Bridge will be going viral all the time. - Who? - They ain't in it. Trigger with your friends.

They ain't in it. - They ain't in it. - They're somebody from Queens Bridge doing the work. And you think that's that nigga? What's his name, bro?

- Tyler? - Tyler? - He's a good. - He's a good. - He's a good.

Is he a streamer? - He means that he will. - Does that he will? - Is that he will? - Is that he?

- No, you win the club. Where can we get friends? - He's a trucker with your friends. - That ain't hard to. - He, he, every trip viral, every trip.

He be wild and all tick-tock with that shit, bro. - He's beyond Vernon doing that shit. I don't know where he be, like he just believed it. But he's not know where his shit is not regular. Like he's not, I'm not here now.

- He's the one million followers on Instagram. - I love that. - And more tick-tock shit is probably where he is. - He's like, "Here for me." - Oh, God.

- He's like a fan of shit. - He's late. - Listen, sometimes I'm out of touch.

- You never heard that song.

- I never heard it. - I never heard it. - And didn't even know. - I think I heard that song. I've definitely heard that song.

- All right, but do you think I'll have a follow up? Actually, I have seen this shit before. The two of them. And he's the one that's on the mic now, right? - Yeah.

- And that's all right. - Yeah. - I've seen this on the radar shit before. But do you think I'll have a follow-up? Or is it one of those moments?

- Yeah, 'cause he got some more shit. He got like, he got like, he got like, he got like, he got like, he got to have at least three viral songs. - But I mean, even that becomes like, artists and songs have just become like products in the way.

Like, remember them little widget things that spun. Like, it's just the trend for the second. And it moves on to the next. The next drink is going to put it out, will you? - Why would they?

If you, if you don't want to have to, I would just viral songs and just go song to song. Like damn what you're running up both every song. Why would you even bother doing it out? - Yeah, at this point.

Like, dedicate so much time because you wouldn't be a musician if it wasn't for this. To that one song and all the marketing around it. You can't do that with 20 fucking songs. You're not that talented or how that much time.

- Right.

- I'm never mad at the kids that are just trying to go viral for each song.

Just stay out of the album lane. It's kind of pointless. Like, I get it. You just want to make bread. Get out of your live, but.

- Michael Waves Society. - Michael Waves Society. - But even some music is meant for that. - Yeah. - I think it's a lane for that.

I think it's a lane for, you know, just a viral artist, a viral, you know, God, a viral girl that just, every now and then, they'll put a record out. And, you know, there'll be some success. But we, we, we, we can't look at them with the same lens of,

a Jay, you see, or a nod. - Oh, no. - Of course. We can't look at it. - I said, it's over.

They, they punch it in, bro. Even, even, even the niggas who we say got balls. They going in the booth. They give it to the sigs ball. They're trying to hold the whole whole whole way right there.

They think about it, go out, smoke some weed. Drink some liggas and go back in there. - Mm-hmm. - I got six more. - Mm-hmm.

- You know what I'm saying?

“They say, oh, wow, that shit is, that's, that's why,”

I feel like that's why the music ain't, ain't last thing. - Mm-hmm. - I watched that shit myself, as a liggas, I, like, I, like, I went through the stew with these niggas. I see these niggas in the stew punching in, like,

to me, that shit is Mad Coney. Like, as a rap nigga, like, reenove your phone, freestyling. You mad Coney. And I'm saying, like, in the booth punching in, that shit is Mad Coney, I don't care who you is.

And I don't care who, like, who, I don't care who say, oh, I did that, oh, such a such you to do that, I don't care, that's Coney. Know your rap, go in there, spit your rap, and get up out of there.

That's how you're going to be able to freak the beat home. You ain't going to be able to freak that beat, not knowing your rap, reenove your phone. And shit is mad, monotone, you reenove your phone. - Yeah, shit, yeah.

I mean, there are some artists that still write pen to paper and worry to paper, but I do understand what you're saying where you need to live with the music and the beat and your lyrics. So that it becomes natural for rapping and they don't feel so,

like, very, like, right on top of the beat. It has to feel like it's in the music. You had this beat in your crave for mud. You been in your bathroom, right? - Right.

- And shower with this shit. - Oh, and with your clover. - Yeah, well. So now, when you win the booth with it, you stay on it.

“Use an instrument on the beat. That's what you don't see the beat,”

but these niggas don't got that. These niggas go in the studio, they'll find a beat. You'll find a beat. Oh, I boom. You're like that.

You'll be like the eye, right around. They type it around on the floor. - Yeah, we like that. - Yeah, yeah, they type the around on the floor. And they go on the booth and do that shit.

That's corny rap. - Yeah. - I don't care who it is. That's corny rap. - You can tell what someone's just read.

- That's why nobody know these niggas rhyme. That's why you can hate these niggas and be like,

Why you, but you don't know that rhyme.

He didn't know that rhyme, homie. - I don't know. - Right, right. - He didn't know that rhyme.

“- Yeah, no, I feel they'll definitely make sense.”

- That's what happened. That's prom. They should have kept the studio. Prices in man high. (laughing)

- Yeah, I heard the rap game about what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to be funny. I ran out of stuff to get to the studio back in the days. That shit was mad at you. - Yeah.

- But I ain't got that. - Yeah. - Whatever it was, I don't care.

I never had money for the studio.

- That's definitely my life. - Because that's the ability. - Yes, I never, but once I came home and that shit was, nigga told you like, $40 a hour. What?

- Yeah. - But we didn't all day. - That's a good point. - 'Cause then you just chilling, whereas when you had 500 bucks,

you could be in there for $5 a hour. You taking the whole weekend. - You know what you're about to do. You're a nigga, you're gonna do $7. What you mean?

- Watch. - Yeah. - I got this shit. - Yeah, nigga, I know these rhymes. You put the beat on nigga, go make no mistakes.

- Yeah, I'm like, oh, this thing's in.

- Yeah, I'm like, oh, this thing's in. - Yeah, I'm like, oh, this thing's in. - Yeah, I'm like, oh, this thing's in. - Yeah, I'm like, oh, this thing's in. - Yeah, I'm like, oh, this thing's in.

- Yeah, I'm like, oh, this thing's in. - Yeah, I'm like, oh, this thing's in. come out. Bust it out. Yeah. Look, that's the snick. You know, I'm kind of drunk now.

“I think you're like, you mad at Nicky just like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So my man told me like,”

yo, take a picture. He was like, no, I don't say. Now I was like, you're me fucked. Yeah. Fuck you, then you'll take no, because I don't take pictures with Nicky's like, you, nigga, like, what do you want to take a picture with you? I don't know. He was mad. He was rapping on his own. I think he was mad. I was rapping on my B and I was smoking. That shit. I was really smoking to beat. And I swear to God that Nicky was stealing. He was like,

no, no, piss. I was like, yo, me fucked this nigga. I mean, he was like, yo, chill. Yo, he was like, yo, my man just did 20 years. Yeah. He was like, yo, welcome home. I was like, fuck all of that. Well, come on. I'm sick. And now it seems like you're hopefully you stay here. I was like, yo, it's your law. He hit me with the no, it's your law. No, no, it's your law. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

He's a lot. I see your name as me. I got shot at him and I beat him. Get out of here, ain't no God. Nicky said, "No, he's shot a lot.

He's with pocket shot, yeah, give me out." First of all, it's a song called "The Founder of the Nation of Islam." It's a song with the full name. Yo, sir. No, he's shot me.

No, he's shot a lot. That worked hard, Kevin. You're coming like, you're coming. You're one of my men. He's like, "Yo, Mr. He's like, "Yo, no."

Yeah. It's like, "Well, all the nigga, right?" He's like, "Yo, that," that he said, "No, he's not a lot." I said, "Oh, yeah, God don't want to be here." "God, yeah, don't want to be here." "God, yeah, don't want to be here."

"Give me the fuck outta here, man."

“That's what you said, "No, he's shot a lot."”

I've never heard that before.

That's crazy. I don't know if y'all saw what Joey Badass says. It's kind of what you talk about, is that he tweeted out, think about it, if somebody at the top gave somebody coming up an opportunity to come after them on a record, you know what happened.

They would get they food, rent his dude bills, pay, experience, whatever. He's saying public perception of who's the best would be drastically different if this were a regular occurrence. This is exactly why you're doing C.J. ID on the fall off. He would have overstood the assignment to me personally and makes no sense he wasn't on it.

But maybe that's just me. He's saying that a lot of bigger rappers like in your situation of being in the studio

With bus, and you saying like, "Oh, you probably hate this because I'm smokin...

But I don't feel like that's the case all at a time.

And I'm saying like, "You got to stay exclusive." We see what's happening to these negatives when they lose in the exclusivity, that's the word. They lose in that shit with this internet. So we don't like, it's like, before you stay at these negatives, it's read about these

negatives once every two years in the XXL, maybe coming to source, that same year if you got a roll-out going, but we don't know these negatives, really. We know they give me this much quotes from the negatives and the negatives that the negatives are doing in the article we're hearing from them. We don't know these negatives back in the days, now we know everything.

You will make us be on the internet too much. We know everything but you call you a corny nigga, like a rap. We said you are a corny nigga, and I'm most of these negatives. Right. Look at my reaction, like, all these new niggas or niggas would be smoking these old niggas,

niggas, niggas, niggas, you get on a track with kiss, you're not smoking kiss, you're not smoking fat, you're not smoking J, you're my smoke summaries, niggas, but you're not just going to be smoking niggas. I remember Vado was doing this big one, almost every song he was on the camp. He was going, "No, I was saying Vado was trash because I'm fucking up on Hot 97.

My shit is you from New York City, niggas, and I don't want to go platinum more than I want to go to flex and get busy." Right. That's a rap nigga from New York. That's a different stand.

You understand what I want to go up there, and had this nigga play this shit for the next 10, 15 years, like, "Oh, my goodness, good night's here, come my shit."

“Like, fuck platinum, and I'm saying, like, that's what that's, like, and every New York”

nigga's like that. And he was up there fucking up, back there, back there, back there, back there, he was up there, fucking up. So I used to think that nigga was trash. So I'm telling nigga that shit one time on the gate, I'm telling that shit to the, to

the Mac ball and nigga, he's like, "Niggas, you bugging, nigga, I have all the mixed things with game and Vado." Yeah. Guns, it was the Guns and Buddy. Guns and Buddy shit.

Yeah, yeah. So I had that shit on the keyboard, blasting that shit, so I'm like, "This little nigga going off." Oh, and everything. Yeah.

He is nice. Like, that, yo, he was going off on every, I'm talking about every song. I'm like, "Yo, this nigga is well." I feel like Vado is one of the most underrated rags I've ever met when I met that nigga. I told that nigga, I sang a lot of them, I got to tell you this, man, I feel like you

wanted them ones. I always feel like that.

I always feel like, "If you could make a better hook, songs."

Yeah. If you could make better songs, rap in bars, baffle ball, not a lot of niggas front of you. Yeah. All that stuff.

I don't know when you could, he got, he got bars, but a lot of the, a lot of the, the guys that love Vado will say, like, they just wish he would make better songs. Yeah.

“But rap in, a lot of these niggas can't rap, but that's what, I don't, if, I would love to have”

Vado up here to ask him about the Calle situation, because it was where we're him and came at the time, and I'm, I'm with y'all, Vado was just smoking versus, but there was no real record yet. When he signed with Calle, I was like, "Oh, that's the perfect, perfect thing." I was like, "I was like, I can't get him to a place where he did."

I had one, I don't know what, I, Calle, gift him a bunch of hit records and Vado just asked to fill in the piece. He wasn't doing that shit. Which is kind of great. Like, I really think that you, Calle, dropped ball with Vado.

He was like, he was on bad food saying, like, you know, wasn't really giving them them, and I'm saying. Yeah. But afar, skills, like, V is one of the best in New York, for sure. When he crashed into the rap, he had ball.

Absolutely. But I mean, do, I don't really agree with with Joey on this entire thing, because I, shit, even how Calle, not Calle got on, but a big moment for Calle early in his career was when Kanye was doing the good music Friday shit, like, good Friday, he put out a record every Friday?

Yeah. All at the end of, I'm looking for trouble with the name of the record. Mm-hmm. And he just left left the end for Calle to smoke a fucking 32 and completely stood out and killed everybody.

Mm-hmm. Every time I've seen Jay bring, stay property up to flex. Jay rap, he wasn't like, I, I just don't believe that.

So Nick is always killing nigga like, yo, he's like, like, I, in my opinion, Jay got

busy at him big on Brooklyn, it's fine, it's nothing big got him back on the next one. We talked about the hate suits. I love the dumbest classes. I used to project off like shit flashes, but I feel like he got him back.

“And I'm saying, but he had two because just nigga, you know what I'm saying?”

Like, he, he, he, he, he, he guy, he got a record on that, but Nick is normally, don't really wild out. Like, when you put them on, they don't really, oh, wow, I don't want to Nick is that put them on. Yeah.

And my thing with Joey saying is this, too, though, yeah, you can be hungry, right? So if the top dog is given one of the young pups that look like, I come on, you're going to get on this joint. You could be hungry for like, but then it's also the side where you find out, this is a big gap difference from the talent, like, I know pop, you can't stand it because

we cop the man was running your crap, no prison is pop your grandma, right? That shit made niggas understand Jay was a, a, a few notches above niggas. Right. And I feel like everybody got busy on that song. Let's see.

But, but when you say you're talking, it was like, what the fuck, you find out that is,

Is still a, is still a, a gap.

It's like your best is good if you talking to somebody else other than me.

I said that's all, I don't think Jay, the nicest nigga, me personally.

“I like kiss and fat more than Jay started here that you like, fat more than Jay Z?”

Yes. But if you're going to actually who's the greatest MC, Jay Z, Jay Z is my home at Ali. But it's not what you like personally. My, I like the nicest nigga to me is kiss and fat, the niggas is nice and

you. I don't care who you are, they can wrap better than you. And I'm saying they can wrap better than you bro. And I'm saying. But it's Jay Z.

Yeah. Okay. And I'm saying, yeah. And I'm saying now, I'm you heard Jay Z, I heard Jay Z spit no nice shit in 10 years. It's been 10 years.

He did the guy diverse as fucking this thing. You tripped. That's how you were. Oh, fire. God, did.

I feel like even, but I'm saying, one verse, we're going to give him one verse. But how many verses he really, I mean, even though four, four verses. Yeah. That was crazy. 10 years.

He got crazy verses on everything. His love, four, four. 10 years ago. Wait.

Written testimony was five years ago.

He has crazy verses on written testimony. Crazy verses. No written testimony might have been more than five years ago. We just did the vinyl press for five year anniversary. It was COVID.

So it'll be now six years. Okay. I'll be anniversary. I'm not saying. Hold on.

I'm not saying. Hold on. Go on to booth. I'm not saying he can't do that, right? But I'm saying, I've heard way more fat and way more kiss in the last 10 years.

Way more. And I started hitting all young niggas around the same time. This is what I'm saying. I heard all that. I started hitting all young niggas around the same time.

But I've been hitting these niggas way more for these last 10 years. I mean, I thought. Kisses have been more active the last the last time I felt fab was really, really in shape. Was the Freddieverse Jason kiss.

So many times. Should I was? Was there something something to do after that?

“Fab hasn't been as active as I think you think.”

So many times. Shoot out three is it's 2020, right? Okay. Yeah. That was one COVID.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm still in no way coast on in the.

I think. I'm talking some shoot out three like as far as rapping goes. You got to go back and listen to that God diverse. That's true. Is unreal.

That's what that would be saying. Sometimes she thought three came out before COVID. It's 20, right? Yeah. That's 70 years.

That's underrated tape though. Right. Right. No fab is one of my favorites. COVID-19 started right then.

Yeah. That's the fact. You know, fab is fab to me is one of the, he's one of the underrated ones to the. And my team is my top five.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he's a better rap. My preference. I don't.

I don't like that. That's what you said. I respect that. I so look fab albums ain't all that to me. I don't really fuck with fab albums like that.

Hmm. The sold tapes. The yellow Jeep. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Freddie versus Jason. Some of the time I shoot out, that's the, that's the fab you like. The call. Like if you will give me some fagging me, I fab the feel of fabs and all that.

Yeah. But I'm, but that's not what I'm talking about. Okay. I'm talking about the sold tape nigga. Some of the stuff.

I shoot out nigga like you know what I'm saying? Jason. Young old Jeep. Young old Jeep. That's.

That nigga's hell. But then that's probably one of his best. That's probably his best project. Young old Jeep. Freddie versus.

Did that's his best album. It's up there for me. Yeah. For me, it's up there. He's out.

He's lying in the mouth. Oh, no. For sure. He got he had big records. So yeah, but I'm saying like that I can really go back to and that I was like, listen to

I'm like, he was getting going crazy on this. Young old Jeep. I think it's overlooked in fact. It's just got to go for you. I don't think people talk about that.

I'm going to set you way. Yeah. Yeah. It's some shit on there. Whoa.

Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe real talk or young old Jeep. Now I'm looking at catalog.

Yeah. Real talk that that's the shit with all of the features that can't be the best one. I listen. I was 14 when that shit came out. It just, it's a different.

It's an nostalgic shift for me with real talk. So what year was that? 2004. That's not, that's not. There's shit ton of features on this.

So you already are. I forgot how many.

Four is the second album, right?

No, I was the third because it was ghetto fabulous. Oh, one street dreams 2003, real talk 2004. All of them shit went platinum right there. Right. Yeah.

Prime me. I'm sure. He put platinum on on 11. Which is crazy. I'm not on 11 when platinum wanted debut.

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Yeah, so Joey Agas explained himself further in that tweet, "Mull you know my eyes about it if you want to read it." All right. What do you say? My sentiment is this type of thing happens all the time.

“This is just a recent example that I think is clear by the way the topic was about sparring”

and hip-hop, regardless of the whole interview. This is not just about J. Cole, this is about Lerical Rap as a sub-genre period. My sentiment is that there's a scarcity mindset in the sub-genre and usually the top guys don't invite other hungry spitters onto their own tracks.

Let me give Cole his flowers real quick just to be clear because I loved album and I've always

loved him as an MC and person, but I stand on what I'm saying, the evidence is dead. There's a difference between doing features for niggas and featuring niggas on your own work. And for the record of Niggas' whole Hollywood thought, "Jay didn't fit on the fall off. That's your opinion." But he's also not featured on any other J. Cole album.

Then J. Cole would just say, "Hip-hop was dead, J-I-D, if hip-hop was dead, J-I-D would be platinum on a throw, it makes tape by the way." But then not feature him at all on the mixed tape or the album when either or would have made sense. While I'm saying this, notice the trend in this specific sub-genre.

I mean, I get that. I understand that. I get that. Dave rap, all right. I know I know I understand what he said.

Why do we think, "Jid wasn't on the mixed tape," or, I don't know. Do we think it's because, oh, he'll get on with the niggas like that. Because they've wrapped together on top of that dreamville as a label has put out so many

group projects that Cole has anchored.

That has led J-I-D. Sean, Brennan, I'm with you that it would be cool to have Jid on an actual J. Cole album. But one, he's stingy with features to begin with. Two, not every single artist has the same mindset as J-Z, where if I got you signed, you're going to be on my album to the point like Memphis Bleak.

On your album, I'm going to give you a whole song called Dear Summer.

“I think J just has a different mindset with the people he signs.”

It's a business one. Cole, I think that's the art system one. He styles. I understand what Roy was saying, but Roy, where I'm going to give you a little bit to push back before you finish your point, Jid was just Grammy nominee.

Yeah, you have an artist that's Grammy nominated currently. You put out a mix tape before you're most anticipated album. He can't get a look on nothing. I mean, he's doing him like J did him. I'm not, I just J, I did, I'm not saying Jid needs it.

I'm saying it will be a good joke.

I'm saying it will be a good joke. I'm saying it will be a good joke. I'm saying it will be a good joke. I'm saying it will be a good joke. I'm saying it will be a good joke.

Mr. Nicewatch, the song stinks, but yeah. But all of us on J. Cole album. Yeah, it's first album. J. Cole, old album. All right, yeah, all right, yeah, all right, yeah, all right.

Which, which he gave him a platform to wrap. Wait, but I, I don't know if it's Grammy nominated right now when this album is coming out. He not all y'all. And that's your artist.

Maybe you don't like him. Maybe he's not a rapist. That's right, man. He just said on the mixed tape that. Maybe if I was there because Jid should be platinum of his talent

level, like he shatter them out on that record. But also where I will get pushback is Cole is explain this as a concept album would be in 29, driving a Fayetteville. Then it's 20, whatever fucking agency picked. Where does Jid fit in that story?

Like I could get future to sing a hook that makes sense. We're still in top. We'll be a hip-hop fit in that story. Which, how? We're being hip-hop fit in that story, you know?

This is what I'm saying, I can't say, I don't know what she wants to say. I don't know what she wants to say. I don't know what she wants to say. I don't know what she wants to say. I don't know what she wants to say.

I don't know what she wants to say. I don't know what she wants to say. I don't know what she wants to say. I don't know what she wants to say. I don't know what she wants to say.

I don't know what she wants to say. I don't know what she wants to say. They try to say, oh my yo, yo, my man, yo, we was doing this, he fit, I don't fuck big and pocket in. That's an area there.

I don't know how to fit.

“Because that's what he was thinking when he was driving.”

Right. Co, like what he does with the, um, revenge of the dreamers projects like, or even that

That camp that they did in that campaign where they had everyone in Atlanta, ...

push their artists the best they can't.

I actually think it's whack when a label, an entire game plan is, oh, I'll just do a feature for you. That's where the ship be failing. Anytime a rapper gets big and starts to sign people, a lot of them have the super mindset of all I have to do is just be a feature on their ship and they'll pop instead

of trying to develop them and do what what Dreamville has done with you. Hmm. But if you all, what he's not going to do, but this is what I'm saying. If you already did the development, the artist development with the nigga, you say, he's Grammy nominated.

How am I? I'm getting on his song, right? You was getting on his song. Yeah, they, they love it. And they like, three songs picked.

And they like, jettest alone to come up. He's still got to make his bones and Grammy nominated. He's Grammy nominated for a rap album. Yeah. Yeah.

Maybe cause looking like, what's your need for? It's not a need. It's not, let's take that word out of it. Jett doesn't need the look from J. Cole.

J. Cole doesn't need the look from J. I'm saying, Jett skill set.

His success, his energy right now around him and his project that warrants a look from his career now. He's here now.

“Has J. Cole ever been Grammy nominated for rap album on you?”

Probably. I don't know if it's a top. He's that that famous meme where he's sitting there tight when he lost. So, that's his pair, we're both Grammy nominated artists now. That's nice.

It's nice, Pierre. If I'm Grammy nominated and you Grammy nominated, we not peers. Come on, everybody. Grammy. Oh, me.

How we not peers? I'm not saying the kid that just got a viral song is J. Cole's pair. I have a great. That'd be singing on the train. He got a Grammy.

How I mean, he nominated. He got it. Maud. J. Cole. J. Cole is here in the train station.

Mr. Nicky, those are his peers because of you told him I because of time in the game.

I'm saying he's his pair meaning my skill set, my audience, my fucking right. I don't want to find that to me. If you nominated that, that don't make you the. Trash people is nominated for rap albums. That don't make them, uh, we're here.

Wait, hold, hold, hold, hold. If I'm nominated for a rap album of the year, okay, and I'm your artist. You wouldn't think that, okay. I'm not a hero of your artist. I'm still being a few.

But a year. Yeah.

“It's J. Cole and I love Jid, but Jid would say he's beneath Cole.”

I don't know if you. I don't know if Jid would say that. Well, as a rapper, he would say, when it's time to give this. So that's what I'm saying. I'm saying, peer wise.

That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the fear as far as rappers is maclomerate. Cole's pair. I mean, be all of them. Not skillset.

I'm being able. We know what that was about. I'm talking about Jid being a rapper at Cole's son. Glorely was nominated. But Glorely got so.

Then Cole gave Glorely the verse. The funny thing is, I could see Cole giving Glorely the verse. So could I get it? No. That's the funny shit.

I could see J. Cole doing a song with Glorely before, before Jid. But are you guys keep family missed it? They've done records. I know. I understand it.

I'm turning on my multiple JID shit. Yeah. Jid was four. That's the old album, though, bro. He even fucked the out.

I was a little punk out. Even if he was not the out of his own 50s. Even if it's not the album, he put out a mixtape right before the album. And then he put them on there. This is just the mixtape.

This is just your every nigga, every nigga who you could think about that. I had a crew. The nigga's who's on the album, son. Yeah. Yeah.

It came wrong. Had you. Yeah. And the nigga's on the album. To me.

Big Jid is a pair of J. Cole. He has his skillset, his artistry, now his, I love your girlfriend, bro. No way. Jid is nice. But he's not.

He can't eventually get out of to be his beer. But he's not right now. I'm not gonna say. What's the word? I like you.

I like the note. Who's the kid? I said I didn't like the other week. That Rory say he was, um, but his beer, look, luckily, oh no, that's not. I don't know.

The pair of me, like pairing it something that looked keenly right, that mixta is too dimmed. He wants the other year. Give us the other definition. Something that now island.

Now Rory's a pair. Islands up there. Huh? A person of the same age, status, or ability as another specified person. So status, status, low, key, let's not make a name when that, I mean, now that I

and like he put the album out, Rory said he liked it. Who? Low, low, low, key, what was the name? I've not seen the book. Oh, baby key.

Oh, baby key, baby key. Mocaca. Jid and baby key mispares, man. No, they're not. Why not?

“I think Jid, Jid is, I'll just say it, Jid is a better artist than baby”

key. I feel that way. I'm saying not pissed though. I think Jid has been way more active. Key my think is about to get to that place, but Jid has been so active, the

little Jid. That's when we're keen. Took a lot of time off and I don't think their peers in that regard, just because

I think Jid is put out more stuff.

But now that Keyn has this other project, he said he has two more in the

talk, he's going on.

“So I think Keyn is about to get there because he's focused on his career.”

He took five fucking years off. What about Jid bad at? You see a peer who, Jid. Yeah, I mean, Jid, Jid is a little bit more established than Jid. My opinion, because Jid has been around here for over a decade, more than that.

Way more than that. Jid is a better, is a better artist than Jid bad as though. So I don't know if Jid has a better project than 1999. And you guys, I love Jid. I don't know if he has a better project than that.

I think Jid is a better artist. I think he's a better artist. Is he a better rapist? If we're talking about right now, Jid is better rapist, so like, Jid is out better than Joey's last one, but I'm still on the status out of like, you

have to take longevity to some account when you're using it. No, get here. I like that.

Joey is in different league because he's been around for so long.

So to both of y'all's arguments, so Norya, would be Jid the kids' pit. Yeah. You say no because the ability is not the same. Not just the ability, but the status. Like, Norya has classic songs, he has, in my opinion, a classic album.

Full go albums. Yeah. So, yeah, I would, I would agree to that. They pay. The skill set is not, the skill set is different, but as far as, you know, just

dysgography and, and, and, and all javity and time in the game and accomplishments and things like that, bodies of work, yeah, Norya, usually he's a pivot, Jid. I think Jid Cole can rap circles around future, but I still think futures is pure. Just as far as accomplishments, what's they've contributed, how they've changed music. That's his future is J Cole's peer, but the ability as far as rapping is obviously different.

Future would say the same. But when it comes to just creating music, that's where I say with, with peers. Like, listen, Travis, Travis, Travis can't rap like Nikki, but they are peers in some

“degree if you want to start getting to, to status, as Jid's album is Jid's last album”

better than the follow. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. - I'm not mad at you.

- I'm not mad at you. - It's a law for ready. - All right, see. - The fall law fell off on me. - Yeah, I need to keep the rest of this.

The first disc is great. - Come on, it's really, really good. - It's really real, bro. - Half an hour. - Half an hour.

- Half an hour. - Half the hour was good. - Nah, it's two hours. - It's the fall and all. - Like half the hour.

- We like half the project. - No, I got it.

- I like the first disc of life.

- The fall. - I like the fall. - The first one, I like the life.

“I'm not a favorite time of year as well, I like the first one and I like a few joints on the second one.”

But again, I don't like double discs to begin with. That's something that I don't like when artists do unless you have a life after death, which is impossible. - You gotta go crazy on a double disc, bro. - But I'm just saying, I don't understand, like,

see the point of everything that Cole has done for Jid, whether it be in the public eye or behind the scenes. I don't know if he had just owed, not owed, but I don't know if I'm putting together my project, that's about my history and life, and this is my last album.

I don't know my mind state is just like I have to place Jid somewhere in this story, just because now this is the time. Yeah, I don't really say making excuses for him. - I don't want to make any decisions. - I don't wanna make any decisions.

- I don't wanna make decisions. - But I mean, yeah, Drake does a lot of features for people that he signs. But when it's time for Drake to make an album, I'm gonna hit future, I'm gonna hit little baby. I'm gonna hit people, I'm not putting Roy Woods

and of course he put division on views and all that. I'm not saying he hasn't done that. - Oh, okay, I was waiting for you to say that. - Oh, no, he said he's had party, I'm just saying, it's right, no, no, no, he didn't give him albums.

- Hit me out, well, a lot of stuff with the party stuff, and I mean, this respect for me, partying him are great collaborators when they write music together. Whereas that's different between JID and J. Cole because they're not collaborating to write with each other

or create melodies in this and that. Like the intro, if you read this too late, was originally a party demo than that Drake flipped and figured out. - That's my favorite thing.

- That's my favorite thing. - That's my favorite thing. - That's my favorite thing. - But at that time, if you read this as too late, now we're in the basement and we were going on a phone.

- No, yeah, sure. - You were driving on that date. - You were driving on that date. - That's what I thought. - Oh, yeah, we were driving on that date.

- Well, that's the shift happened where he went home. And like, soft to aggressive. - Like he was driving him real, like they was getting money. - But to me, he does that with his artists more on their projects than he does on his own.

Not every single Drake album is like just a funny old thing, right? - I give what you say 'cause they might not be on my mind. - But what do we do? - You know what I'm enjoying?

- Singing on so my team on.

I eat it around, but for the most part,

Drake is on Asian a lot. It's J. Cole on a lot of ditches. - I mean, even, even hope you go through everything. - J. Cole on, you can't see the album. You don't get the whole ride on my album.

- The J. Cole was he on J. Album. - No. - No. - He was supposed to be, if he not going to have J. on his album, you got to get on a son album.

- But you know why he wasn't, though? - What?

“- I think that J. Cole didn't want anybody to really”

hear him like that until it comes out. - The time. - Every thing the time, and he was no finishing up his project. - And the rap games to this, I ain't going to lie.

I don't, I don't, I like, let me guess that's all about selling drugs only, Matt. - These are the biggest, these are the biggest. - It's too weird, bro, you're too fucking weird. You're got too much, like what were you saying?

What were you doing? - I mean, the perfect beat. I mean, the perfect one, what are you doing? - Yeah, yeah. - What got it here?

- Yeah. - I like the biggest, it seemed like the biggest that selling drugs, Benny, the butcher, and I'm kind of the biggest, get him, get his beat, they're going to go in there, talk about this shit and get it over.

Come on, oh, hey, I knew he wasn't going to get on there. - If he wanted to be heard, it's terrible. - But Nick, but Nick, if he used to want to be heard, every fucking chance he got. - Yeah, but coming off of everything that Cole,

obviously the last two years and then, you know, - Yeah, right. - Very calculated.

“- Nick is deleting songs with a fucking shit.”

Yeah, I don't like this. I like to make it that sad or drug. They ain't deleting that shit, they need that. They need the DSP's, it sent them niggas a few dollars. They ain't going to delete that shit, man.

Straight up, Nick is then got all this money and change, man. - No, I don't think you don't even like rapping or more the shit is more about it. Instead of rapping, the shit is like it seemed like it's more about it. - Well, this business with Jay Cole, it has to be.

The type of artist he has to think more business than just.

- It's always been the business though.

- Yeah, but when you at the level of Jay Cole, especially right now and everything going, you know, from 2024 currently, everything had to be very meticulous, everything had to be very intentional.

Everything had to be calculated. Like it was just a little different, so I'm not, I'm not looking at the real shit for that. - I don't feel like Jay Cole will ever be as big as whole of was in '04.

- I don't think so. - I don't think so. - All right, Jay, Z was on high in '97, so step inside the booth Superman is alive. Like we've still just shit like that from Jay, Z, when he was Jay, Z, nigga.

We could get these niggas getting on the radio, giving us fire, freestyles, and all that. The top dog, the greatest, the greatest. And y'all make this be acting like y'all too good to get our shit like this, 'cause it was a while ago.

- I mean, Cole coded leekers, his leekers freestyle. - I heard that shit was I, and I'm saying, I'm saying, though, you niggas are different times though, too, 'cause like niggas is too bad, man, this shit, buddy.

- But that was always a marketing plan, too.

At any time, hold went up to flex or it was bringing someone, it wasn't for the love of the game. It was for an intention of something that we're doing. It was a tool. And that tool isn't the way it was before

when it comes to rappers like Jay Cole. Of course, it's great when Drake goes to on the radar. I love that type of shit. I love when rappers that had established do that, but it's not the tool that was before,

where you got to get your whole crew up to the radio, because we need to hear all them rap, 'cause we bout to put something up. It's like when people like Cole or Drake do that, that's actually because they love the sport.

Like that's not really the biggest marketing plan on Earth. Like, Drake didn't need to do the on the radar shit. He did it 'cause he likes that platform and one of the rap was central sea and like, that shit. - Yeah, it's cool to see.

- Cole loves, I'm sure Cole loves that. LA leakers shit and was like, I gotta get up there, Cole didn't need to do that. But Jay needed to go to flex as a marketing plan. He needed to, it was different.

- You had to go up, it radio was controlling everything. So you had to go up there. And you gotta make a moment. Like, it has to be a thing when you go up there. Like, y'all got my man's that can rap too.

People calling in like, it's a thing. - You know what I mean? - You know what I mean? - People I'm saying, but I'm saying it's this, right? If everybody's saying like rap was better. When the shit, like this was going on.

Why do you, why, why get in this old ass, all day, ride around like you want some throwback shit, but you ain't doing the throwback shit. But could Joey Badass has said this. If Jay Cole would have got the dream building

because they'd gather and packed the sprint of van and went to New York City like your flex. We bought the fuck this shit up in a bit. - Nah, but see, could he have said that though? - All right, but this is my last album.

Why can't I make it about me?

“The only thing, the only thing when we have them”

didn't you make about you, Jay Cole? - It's his fucking asshole. - How did you make about you? - Yeah, but that's what Zip is saying. Like, when is it going to make about you?

- When is it not? You said the revenge of the nurse should be get all that. So he does make way for the guys that he has, under his umbrella and things like that.

What Zip is saying is, if you, the top dog,

or you think you the top dog, and you have this certain aesthetic you trying to keep, like, you know, we taking it back old school, we really hitting the streets and all that, why are you ain't got your team and your team?

- Why are you giving them that stuff? - We've done that before, why does he have to do it every time? This is my last album. - I'm gonna make this a bargain, too.

- I get that too, like, I get that too. - If it's the middle of your career, yeah, like,

“if you want to start a label and take on”

that responsibility, yeah, you should pack the host for an event with all of Dreamville, which he's done. Every single Dreamville fest, you could, you could have a thousand streams. If you're signed a Dreamville, you are on a main stage.

- Yeah. - And on top of that, when Cole closed, he brings, he brings all of Dreamville on stage with him for half to set. - Like, like, that, for that I understand,

that's the first, the first rule.

- Ari's base for our single, he's on, "Shade by the Baby." Like, he did his, why you have to do that every single time? - I'm not saying every time. I'm just saying that J.I.D. had a very successful year.

He had a lot of energy around his last project. He just put out, I'm just saying, I think we could have found, we could have hit spacebar somewhere on the mixed hate forms, all I'm saying.

I think we could have found somewhere, we could have found a loop somewhere on the, what was the name of the mixed hate? - It was called birthday, but it was his birthday, man. (laughs)

- So for your birthday, you weren't invited. - No, no. - Me and Jid don't get to blow the candles out. It's my motherfucking birthday. - I'm the only one blowing the candles out.

- Me and Jid are not blowing out our birthday candles. - I don't want Jid to blow out Jid. - Those candles, it's his birthday.

- I don't even want to think about that.

I'm just saying, I feel like, Coca-Cola found somewhere on that birthday, Blizzard mixed hate to let Jid get his shit out. - That's all. - The album, we understand the same thing or something.

Jid's birthday is on Halloween.

“No, wait, you have to wait until October.”

If I put a mixed hate about then, then we could do a spooky season together. - I could, but just so we can close this, would we find it surprising at all, if a year from now, we hear Jid don't want shots at co.

- I just said, maybe you don't like each other. - Okay. - Usually I'm the one that has the terrible conspiracy theories. - No, I'm not gonna think about the conspiracy theory. I'm saying the way Jid and Jid cold don't like each other,

or have it. - I'm not saying, I don't think he feels the way either. - I'm not saying they don't like each other, but if we hear Jid, write a boss, put a boss in, you know, you wanted to keep me out of that light.

You didn't really want me to shine in that moment,

which made me want me in that haunted cold.

And then it got, it ain't got to be rooted in beef, it's just like, yeah, you ain't want to, you ain't want to pass over the time. - I don't know, it's grown fucking when they started. It was him and Eve in the haunted driving the floor.

- No, I forgot. - Jid was in, in junior high at that time. - Hi, so sure he's just a little nigga in the back, that's what he meant, that's what he meant. - Yeah, that's what he meant.

- Yeah, that's what he meant. - Yeah. - Which you got to spit that shit. - I spent my little rounds of shit. - Yeah, I think I think it's just, you know,

I get it, I'm saying like all of the big dog niggas is supposed to have the young niggas on a album,

“'cause that's historically that's how I went.”

And you supposed to get on a album, a double disc. The jig can't get on there. - No, none of that shit, all that Boris. - One song? - Let's get that, that shit was boring.

You put out mad Boris, shout out to Joey Badass for pointing that out. You put out 30 Boris song. - No, Joey Badass and he liked that. - He loved that.

- I don't care what he said about, I'm talking about the jig, it references. - Oh yeah, okay. - You put out 30 Boris on album. Nobody listed the two today.

And you ain't even put your man on it. You could have put your man on it. Maybe Niggas would have felt like he did that. How many tracks was it? - 20 times.

- Yeah, I'm not gonna see. I thought I was about to get you off. - Yeah, version of it, but I'll put up JZ, Discography and so on, but I'm looking on Blueprint too. - Yeah.

- And after I asked him, Memphis Bleed B&C, it will freeway young guns, PD Cracks. - You guys watched that, right? - Chris on it. - Oh yeah, no doubt with you, so like us.

And obviously, so I have some words. - They'll smoke the sound, dude, like I was calling you. But don't act like J with some of the artists that he saw and later, not people like Bleed that he grew up with. You got an earn of verse from me.

Like you gotta put somebody on your own, right? - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - The rain. - Hey, Marty has songs to get this for a show.

- Oh, I'm talking about on coals, but I'm not saying we don't have songs together. But the coals album. - Oh, how many features does this co-hat in his whole career on his album?

Not much. - Well, he needs some, like he might add some spasas. - Yeah. - And it might add a little spoc, I'm saying, sometimes you need the motherfucking dim the lights.

And ask him, "I'm beyond to make the party lit." Just 'cause you gotta, you know what I'm saying? Or I'll ball room a big space. And DJ equipment don't mean the party gonna be lit. You know what I'm doing? - No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

And not saying that the streets matter,

I don't think Jake Cole is real big in the streets.

I think he's like a whole lot of-- - We got home. - We got home. - We got home. - We got home. - We got to define the streets in 2026. - Well, seven and eleven is the streets, right? The back of seven and eleven.

“I think that's what a lot of Jake Cole fans hang out with.”

- I know, they're big in the streets. - No, they hang out in the store next to that. - We got the laptop. - No, no, no. - But old fans in front of seven and eleven, Paul and eight moms call, listening to his shit, eating twizzles and shit,

eating sour straws and dad and smuggle weed out of the place. - That's a great side of it. - No, I'm not saying it. It's not, I'm saying, but that's where his fans are. - Those type of fans. - They have basements. - They don't have crack. - Crackle fans.

- They don't have crack and crack in their eyes. - Try to wave somebody to say, "You know, seven." - Yeah, basements. - Everyone in Queens got a basement, not everyone. I'm from Queens, I did not have a basement.

- Well, I know what you mean though, but not everyone in Queens got a basement. - Me and Zips bring some probably a little bit different. - It's just a little different. - I'm just going to live with Zips.

- You was a bit more slightly different. It was a little different. - It was a little different. - It was a little different. - It was a little different. - Everybody wants to hold it. - It was a little different.

- It was a little different. - Yeah, a lot of basements over there. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - So around the corner they had basements. - Yeah, you didn't want to go in there though. - When you was at, you didn't want to go in the basements.

- I'm saying the basement in my building, let me think. - You didn't want to go in the basement in your building.

“- I think I've been in the basement in my building”

maybe one time. - I'm not going back. - I'm not going back to where you were using the laundry. - Listen, I'm privileged. I don't know.

- See, he looked. - You just don't do laundry. - Why the driveway? - Why the laundry? - The laundry matters down the block.

- Yeah, on the corner. - You don't know what it is to push a shopping card. I mean, I do, no, you don't. - But that's actually when I left my mom's, I had to figure that out, oh, okay, okay. - Yeah, but not, but J. Cole, you know, it's not a street element with J. Cole's.

- Yeah, so like, I don't think J. Cole is an incredible M.C.

an incredible rapper and incredible artist. - Smart nigga's life. - Same bases, just a smart nigga. - Smart nigga, smart, you got to have some, like smart, but I mean, smart, smart, smart, smart cast, like a lot of jaded,

like fab. J. Cole is like sign-failed to me. - Yeah, that's some level of intelligence to understand that shit. - Okay. - He's nice, he's not for the, like, the layman.

- Okay. - All right, you know what I'm saying? - No matter the, not saying is anything wrong with that, but you just identifying his fan base. - Yeah, like, I agree and don't agree.

- Jid got what? - Jid is George Costanza. - Everybody like him? - No, he's crazy. He next door and they can't stand it.

- Word.

“- No, I think sign-failed, and people say this about Cole,”

I don't believe this about Cole. But why that is actually good analogy. People think sign-failed that show is not as smart as people think it is. - Very dope.

- Like, it's really not, they're like, oh, it's just, it's too intelligent. You have to be a certain type. No, you don't, it's just not that funny. That shit was hilarious to me.

What? Are you bugging it? I think those sign-failed was hilarious? - Hell yeah, I felt like sign-failed, like, what's she's like, my mom wants sign-failed every day.

- I grew up on sign-failed.

- First of all, let me help you solve it.

- It's just not as great as people say, really. - It's like, it's like, it's really not. - It's like, it's really not. - No real shit, real shit, real shit, real shit. - I beat a body, huh?

(laughing) I beat a body, this is real shit. You're wearing a bowl, right? I beat a body, right? - Uh, I can't hold my grandma and say,

"Yo, you gotta come and I'll set it to the clock." (laughing) - I think that that lady, man, I wanted to say, I just beat a motherfucking body. Why can't you tell him about coming I'll set it to the clock?

I couldn't say that. I had to come out and say the clock. She was trying to get the street thing. Yeah, thank you, thank you, buddy. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank

- Thank you. - What's your text on it? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

- Yeah, you're getting this men in stock and block you, you're the same, you're the same, you're the same, you got to come and ask that to the clock, I look at it. - Yeah. - I think I've grown down, I'm going to be the body. - Yeah, yeah. - I'm outside. - That was your boy, midsummer? - Yeah, yeah. - I get it. - I'm like, I'm like, man, I was so fucking mad. I used to, every day I sat in down at the same time, like, 9.45. I stopped counting my money, put it. - You're cleaning it up at all, I'll be looking around and go, we want to make niggas going out, it's like, yeah, I think it's out here.

- I got it going out. - Yeah, I got it going out. Yeah, I got it going, these niggas get the same outside. - Yeah, I've learned about the sessions, crazy. I used to look, I'm going to house, I watched the news. - Yeah. - And then I used to watch, sound fell after that. - Yeah. - After terrorizing, after terrorizing the community from both of my days. - Yeah. - I'm going out of brain early. - Yeah, yeah.

- I don't think I can't, ain't no time limit of what I've been. - It's over five now, six. - Yeah, I'm outta here. - What's the deal with selling crack? (laughing)

- I'm outta here, I'm definitely not. - It's a big deal. - So, you don't know this? - Stay in time to 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock? - Oh, not me.

- Yeah, not now.

- I see, you never get to be in that tent.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - He's got me about to work. - What? - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- Every day, every day.

- I see, every day, every day, every day.

“- You know, that is such-- - You did that 10 o'clock,”

I gotta take it, I gotta take it inside. - Yeah, but that is such a hood thing. Like, no matter what niggas was doing in the streets, how fed niggas was, terrorizing, if Granny said something, that was law, get your ass upstairs.

- 10 o'clock. - 10 o'clock. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, get in the home. - I'm 16. - Yeah, you got to be in the house at 10 o'clock.

- Did you have, did you have, you granny had the latch on the door? - Nah. - You had the latch on, nah, you had the kick, grandma, we'd come down the block.

(laughing) With the wrong coat, grandma'd come down the block, grandma came down that block, man.

- Come on, yeah, let's go.

- Let's go, yeah, just like that one. - Come on, grab ball and stuff, yeah. - Only times like that, but they can roll and dice. - You see, I see, I'll say she's going to start. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

- When she come out, it's time to roll. - No, see, you see no, she don't look at you, she's you, you know. - Yeah, you're time to do this, no? - What time's the nigga look at her as well? - Yeah, it's kind of clocking. - You're like, oh, I don't know.

- She's friend, like she got to get some front of stores. - She'll be no front of stores. - She'll be no. - She'll be no. - She'll be no. - Yeah, she'll be no. - Yeah, she'll be no. - She'll be no. - Yeah, she'll be no.

- Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. (laughing) - But I'll be the neck. - It's time to roll. - Yeah, back it up. - Back it up. - I'm still crying. - That's 15, really. After you beat a body at 16 that you gotta go on.

- You win a street like this one, you know? - You know, shit. - You know, shit. - I've done that in so many, you know that my mom was like, no, you can't be. You can't go outside anymore. - Gotta wrap it up 10 o'clock. - You look at a grade like this, what I do?

That, you know what, in the air, you'll look at this, the air shit. When I called the body, I had to be in the house at 10 o'clock.

“- When you're right, you should have been earlier for everyone.”

- You'll look. - No, it's summertime, it's July, like, July. Now listen to that nice shit, that shit I just came up. - 96? - Yeah. - It was written, it just came out, so the shit I've been pulled. So, what happened was when I went upstairs,

she said, "Yo, you wanna go back outside?" I said, "Yeah." "Yeah, yeah, let's go." I went back out there and called the body. - See? (laughing)

- She was a girlfriend, that shit, no, boy.

- Yeah, no, we never know more, you wanna go back outside.

- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - You gotta be it, I said it, you gotta be it, I said it, you gotta be it, you gotta be it, I said it, you gotta be it. - You remember the last time we happened? - Yeah, I just said that shit. - No, yeah, yeah, yeah.

(laughing) - All right, man. - Niggas, we scared of the ground. - I was scared to death from my grandmother, my grandma. - My grandma had the big arms.

- Yeah. - We supposed to back in was mad, fashion, never see a company. (laughing) - Got a backing like Marty Supreme. - Sorry, you're never see that shit coming.

Like, you see, like, she don't talk with her hands, and I know that. - Yeah. - You just never saw that shit coming, next to you, you're teeth and all that lips and all that, no, no, no, no, was wearing a shit out of you. - Not you, you don't say it, yeah.

(laughing)

“- I think she was pretty liberal and nice to give you”

a 10pm curfew after being nobody. (laughing) - Yeah. (laughing) (laughing) - Oh, God, man, excuse me, I fucked up at 16 like now. You're not going outside anymore.

- Oh shit, I feel like we all live the same life somehow, man, that shit is fun. - Definitely not that one. - But, definitely not that one, definitely not that. - Well, being a skater, your grandmother, yeah,

that's a real thing, show as in the house. - All for Mike's, it was the funny story of reading somebody's paperwork in jail. That's who's grandmother, should have had them in at six p.m. that she was talking about.

- Oh, when you looked at homies paperwork and so, - Oh, what's the problem with that? - Oh, look, right. So me and my man, me and my man, Vito from Pekipsy, right, we talking about some shit on the gate.

We trying to outtuff each other on the gate. So, he talking about shit, and I'm talking about shit. So there's old East New York, man, he like your zeb. I'm about to send something down there and pull the line in. So, grabbed the line, I'm pulling it in all that shit man.

I was hoping it was some weed, I was gonna keep like a shit. Pull it down, man, leave it working, shit. So, when I pull it out, when I pull it out the envelopes, it's like, you could tell what the nigga wants to read, the nigga got like, the folder, red, green,

blue, and all like what the research is shit. - Yeah. - I opened a shit about star readers to the date. It's the nigga trial minutes. - Okay.

- I'm gonna get told to a detective, they questioned it, they detected, so they asked to detect it. They like, you know, we made you start investigating

In such a search for these two homicides.

- Mm-hmm.

- Well, we was already investigating them for 75 homicides.

What the fuck? I closed that shit. Put that shit in, let me give it my mouth here. Yeah, I'm like, I'm real. (laughing)

I'm like, I'm real, call that nigga like, I'll let you. Shout out to the lie down, say lie down, all the lie, all the lie, yeah, all the lie, pull the lie on it, you read that, yeah, you read everything, yeah.

(laughing)

“I've read one page that shit, I think it's fuck God in,”

they can tell by we was for 75. (laughing) Bitch, he throws your money, $25,000. That ain't no way you would've investigated you for 75 and you ain't doing none of them.

(laughing) That don't get 100% justice. That don't work, like nigga's ain't telling, the police is investigating because somebody told him you did that shit.

nigga's ain't telling you that, 75. And you ain't doing none. nigga's ain't lying or you like that in the homie. I said yo, I was scared of that nigga. That's man nigga was a, that nigga was smooth.

And he raises voice, none of that, I used to get a nigga pound of me, skit, I got a bro, I get by saying why my eyes think it's dangerous.

If I read that first page and say investigated for 75,

I won't close that shit, the less I know the better. Yeah, I'll close that shit back up, be like yo, I think, I think you got a shot of eating it. You're sorry, you want to rip no envelope with that shit. (laughing)

I was just hooked up, you ain't shit, perp, you don't look the nigga that I was down, I was then talking to right, I thought I said yo, so come here. (laughing)

“I said yo, so I'm pullin' a boom, you're like yo, what up?”

I said yo, son, I said I think it's a killin'. I said we can't walk in that nigga. (laughing) (laughing) I said yo, we can't walk in that nigga.

Oh, like shit we were talking about ain't about nothing. Straight up nigga. We're gonna be 70, we'll be at 76ers over here. (laughing) I'm not touching him, yeah, I'm not touching him.

Oh no, I don't have no plans on ever like, yeah, he's got me. He's got me, yeah, he's pulled his right out of my head. He's got me, yeah, he's pulled his right out of my head. He's got me, yeah, he's pulled his right out of my head. Fuckin' on that nigga on the Marine's.

When I get out of here, that's not what I'm gonna get get catch that shit, nigga, if I got it. Yeah, let's leave him alone, man. (laughing) So I don't, I'm not taking the weed from this nigga.

'Cause I always pay more time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I always pay more time. I don't know. You know I got me. Nah, nah, I'm good.

I got some just what's the name of the nigga. Yeah, go hard, lad me, yo. (laughing) I should've never let me read that. Oh, my, yo.

“'Cause no way you could get to 75 with reasons.”

Like somebody was a dude on the page. I don't get what he's going on out there. To get to 75 with the guy. That's where he's gonna get. That's what he says.

He's up to. Yeah, nigga, good look at him. The number they used to be having 150, 170 murders and shit like that. Yeah, he's from New York, just one neighborhood.

Yeah. Like now, in New York City, it'd be four, 500 murders a year. And one neighborhood they used to be having 100 to 50, 100, 75 murders. The nigga said we was investigating him for 75.

So he's the one by 70. Yeah. Yeah, this nigga, he won't let him. (laughing) He wanted him to go crazy out there.

Now you say I had to put on the nigga. (laughing) You know, so where the buddy already on this and rest in peace, the nigga Puzzle. But the nigga, Kooji rap, made a song here.

He mentioned son in the version. And I'm saying, I'm gonna Puzzle was in my hood telling me he killed 10 people, like I killed 10 people. Like we used to be in these little niggas looking like this nigga, like you know why?

And nigga, nigga, nigga had the rusty Mac. Like, nigga, I'm not lying. (laughing) I haven't thrown this thing away. (laughing)

Yeah, nigga, had the rusty Mac, nigga, I'm not lying. (laughing) He died, he's not killed. And I'm saying a long time ago, I don't know who did that song,

but we're like, do you rap, bro, that nigga. I can assume he had 10 people. But how about he killed 10 niggas? The nigga's from East New York, I say that's a light number.

(laughing) Yeah, I mean, you listen to the line there. Yeah, that's the start of me. No, like he'd tell you about Puzzle, like he told me about Puzzle, like,

oh, now I know for a fact he got more than that. Like, when you was with him, like, oh, oh, yeah, maybe I had 10 niggas, like. (laughing) But I ain't go like that group of niggas before us.

Oh, yeah, no, it was awful. The 80s? What's the difference? That's born in the 80s. The niggas born in '75?

That was outside of '70s. Like, that was outside of '80s. 14, 15, and '88. It was different. Man, it was different.

It was a little nigga from, name Shorty from my hood. He was from my hood. He was from 40 projects. He came to my hood and I get shot everybody, bro.

(laughing)

I had niggas shot everybody, bro. Niggas shot Mike.

“He shot Mike, he tried to shoot a big one time.”

He tried to build duck, build the fastest niggas in the world. Niggas build duck to bullet niggas. Fast, niggas fast in the leeway, leeway, caught the shit with his teeth, build duck. And got a way more than the niggas in the big apple.

You know, they tried to shoot in the crown friday, and he didn't cry, but he was called a big apple. Niggas sure they tried to buck niggas build niggas, build duck that shit, got a body on her neck. Mur, but he shot everybody, you know.

He shot each shot, one of my men's in the ass, shot Mike, Mike in the foot, Niggas shoot, and everybody. That's a marksman, it was like 14, yeah. It was like 14, 15, it was shooting, everybody. Another little nigga said,

another little nigga from my little put him down.

It's always like that though, I feel like.

The ones that we outside, it's always like the most random young, not a random, nothing of them, for the kid I was doing the same kind of shit. We ain't got 'em, it was waiting for 'em, yeah. Oh my God, that shit was crazy, I ain't gonna lie.

Maybe saying that shit, man, I don't care what nobody said.

“That violence shit, they'd be talking about these days.”

This shit is a good place to raise kids, man. That shit we went through. Yes, different now. I mean, it's still a lot of shit going on. Man, I'm not gonna lie.

That's the same shit, yeah, but I tell people all the time. No comparison. It's New York, everyone else is a fucking night. No, New York, in the 80s, I tell people all the time. I vividly remember seeing shit that now, I'm just like,

you have no idea what this block y'all standing on. You just look like an '87, '88, '89, like you wouldn't want to be standing up here, like it was a band in buildings everywhere. 16-year-old kids don't go to the store by themselves, bro. No more, no.

I was six, they just go to change here, go get me some cigarettes, yeah. You just go get it, sit to the Spanish, they get y'all, my mom was thinking of mine. You know, you're mine, give me whatever, you just walk one in the hallway.

You take the right substance, yeah. That's how I was six. This is first grade. You're smoking that six?

First grade, look at this smoke half and it's cigarette.

Get that shit to your man, come back that shit, it's brown. Yeah, we out. Smoking cigarettes is six, it's crazy. Absolutely, it's that. Son, this is what's going on, 100%.

Look at you just to take. You're not used to come through with the Q-ponds,

“put them on the fences, you should take those niggas in the bag y'all put”

leaves in them rolling up like we smoking weed and all that shit burning up and they get chasin' all that. We actually used to have that exact same thing. This is the finally, 'cause if we found something from our childhood that we can relate to, we can relate to it.

That's what it seems like. I don't know, that's what it is. We was rolling a fucking notebook paper and just try to smoke it. Like, yeah, I feel like that's why you boys shit, smoking notebook paper. I was the only white person.

Oh, yeah, I forgot. You wrote, you wrote, you wrote with us.

You would, yeah, he would, I forgot Roy, would I?

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- All right, before we get out of here though, what does Puff have on everybody?

Pulse?

Listen, I hope to God,

we don't have to talk about a J. Cole interview for a while.

- Well, not, I don't mean that to bad way. I love Cole.

“Love J. Cole watch, I think all of us are”

just exhausted with a lot of this stuff, but either way, Cole mentioned in the camera on interview that he had a podcast episode where he was gonna explain the entire fight he had with Diddy, which has been rumored for quite some time,

but he did confirm it did happen. They did get in some type of a scuffle. But he said he wanna put it out, 'cause he wanna kick 'em while he was down. He didn't wanna kick Diddy while he was down.

He said everything was piling on, he wanna add that to it. - You ever seen Diddy kick somebody when they was down? - I've seen Diddy kick a woman while she was down. - Down and out, a little dainty joint.

- I don't know if I might have the grace to not kick someone when they down when I've watched them kick a woman while they're down. - Yeah, you won't want me to do it.

- Oh, I'm figure to reveal.

- I figure to reveal. - I've seen you literally clearly see that woman when she was down. - A little dainty joint when she was down, but we can't kick him when he down. I don't care about none of that.

- I think we, we, we, we. It's just too much politically correct talk. - I'm not saying that, I'm not saying so. - I should say the same shit. - No, but that even had me.

- I should, I should use to live with him though. It's a difference. It's a difference between Jay Cole and Diddy. - Yeah, I should, diddy have a difference. - I should use to live with him when he was a child.

And I'm saying, like, some kind of like, he helped raise him a little bit. - He stayed up for like a year. - Yeah, that was his mids. - That was his mids.

So that was big bro to him. - Yeah.

- You understand, or uncle, whatever.

And I'm saying, Jay Cole, you don't have that relationship with Diddy. - I mean, maybe optics of like, it may look like I'm conveniently putting this episode out during the Diddy thing. But that's not how Cole worked with it.

He worked with it as if, oh, everyone was following on. I didn't want to kick him up. - You didn't want to add it to that. - Add to it. But I could see the point of like,

so what that means is like, this would look like weird time. Like, the way we talk, we talk five times a week. If Cole's put on a podcast episode, right around that time, it could look exploitive like, okay, this is weird. But that's not what he said.

So, he just said he want to kick him up, he's down. - Okay, so when would be the right time to do it? When is it not going to let he kick him? 'Cause he gonna be down forever, no, after this. - I mean, the world we live in, I don't think Puff is gonna be down.

Unfortunately, that just don't think that. Nobody cares. - I'm clearly, I'll check from there. - And Jay Cole is the compass of morality in the hip-hop game, it's not like, no, I wanted to protect Ditty.

- I don't think, I don't, I'm saying like, I so boom. But I protect. I'm not saying Ditty's not gonna keep getting money, right? I think he's gonna get money, but a lot of shit that was going on is not gonna be able to go on.

That girl got on a stand and say, he like mayonnaise, rubbed on his nipples. - And then once that come, like, I'm not, like that is where it is, there's mayonnaise, right? Like, you know what I'm saying?

- The king's chicken with the comfort. - It's the come shit, that's what I'm saying. - That's what he's saying. - I just saying what he's saying, come. - Because they said Ditty had a lot of things rubbed.

I wasn't sure if he was actually saying. - No, it was, I'm saying, if he was saying, another nigga, like, another nigga bus in your bro, you want to take it out and put it all your chest? Like, no niggas is looking at you the same now.

Like, niggas might've thought you was freaky before, like, holding her some shit, but now we are just specifics. - The nanny of looking at you like. - I will, let me ask you this. Like, let's say nobody cares, all right,

you think it's over Ditty based off that, more than all of us watching him kick a woman? - Yes, that's fucked up. And I don't think you think, but I agree with you,

“that's how society, I think society thinks it's crazy”

that he's like someone's nipples, then kick in a woman. - My thing is, the reason why I didn't care about people paling on with Ditty is because I've seen him kick in a bro. - Yeah.

- Like, it was like, once you, like, like, like, I know mad niggas that have face with girls. - Mm-hmm. - I don't fuck with niggas, and I'm saying, once I know you be beating short,

he's up in my mouth, I'll fuck with you home, you're like, yeah, I don't wanna know the dos, you, right? We watched this nigga do that. Then he catch a case, and they say he was doing all this nasty shit, all this nasty shit coming out of the child,

man, baby, all you shit, shit, and they say, with the tapes, maybe this is why everybody's sticking up with Ditty, 'cause they ain't put them tapes out. - Yeah. - He said it was tapes.

The cameras everywhere. And no tapes came out, so maybe he's still got them tapes. Maybe he said you could keep your tapes. - You know, everybody like y'all. - I got them, I mean, I'm gonna do it.

- All right, I look better to say about Ditty. - To the fans, put the fucking tapes out. The fans put the tapes out and yours ain't dead. It ain't exhibit seat. - Oh, yeah, fuck that, look at that, man.

“- Now I'm saying, that's what they, that's what they weigh for.”

- Yeah, I don't know what they, yeah. I just think it's like, Ditty will be home relatively soon. - And I think they ain't dead. - And he's watching all of this shit. And I don't think there's anything we call whenever we're going,

but, and I don't wanna put anything on usher either. I don't wanna make accusations with no proof anything.

But, I could see if I did some Frankie shit with Ditty,

that I didn't want out, and it's time for me to sit down.

“And I know he's in jail with nothing but time.”

I might watch my words and when I say about somebody and they ask me, "You don't watch, "you got, if you feel like you're clapping, you got some shit in it, yeah." - I'm not gonna do it. - But the ones that know that they ain't got,

but those are the ones that the 50s, what they feel like that ain't gonna do. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - It's like, nigga, that's what, but that's what people don't understand. My 50 why he could talk like that is because he knows, like, bro, I don't got, I don't got it at all.

- Yeah, oh, me, like I don't, that ain't that ain't what. And I ain't got that on my jacket. - And like, again, I don't wanna push it on usher. But everything usher said, on the first bar, I agree, of course, me, I don't need usher or anyone else to tell us that did he's an icon and has changed music, changed everything.

- I've never heard of a remake until Puff.

“- Like, I don't need usher to say that, and then be like, well, that's why I'm not saying, all right, but you could say, you watched him literally punt a woman in a hallway, like, what does one have to do with the other?”

- Right. - It's fuck that, of course we know he's an icon. Do I need to tell you that ignition remix is incredible? No. He also fucked kids. - Right. - That's where I'm lost with this whole usher, I don't get those points. - Yeah, because of what I get it, yes, usher, like, Puff has done amazing things for you and for other people. I'm not saying Puff is not done good things with it.

- Right, but once you see that, once you see that, why can't you just be like, well, not still like, what the fuck? No. - Yeah, like, once you see that, you can be my mentor as a kid and I'm a grown man now and I see you doing something. But, like, kicking the woman, I'ma be like, yo, that's absolutely fucked. - But I'ma say this, though, right, I'ma say this, right. - I should've got a relationship with Ditty, that Niggas don't got.

So now he could've been like, yo, what was going on there? - Yo, bro, that's the day I found out she gave me that, what's in there? - Oh, that's the day, I caught a thousand in that bag trying to run out that whole town room all. - We don't know, you know what I'm saying? - Whatever it is, though, if you grab her, you can't say whatever it is. - Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. So if she burnt you, what if she burned them?

Is she slipped in the package? - But my thing is, my thing is, you still kicking her while she's on the floor, though. You grabbing the throwing on the floor, you know, like, okay, if you send it, let's say the situation is what you say. Any man would lose his mind and go. - You don't know what you're doing, right. But what I'm saying is, what is that gonna do, though? At that point. - You grab both of them, but to the ground. - You saying, yes, of you just gave me some shit that I can't get rid of for the rest of my life.

- Oh, woo! - Mm-hmm.

Incredible home. Everything, everything, everything.

I mean, it's not gonna make me mad at it. - In that case, in that case, maybe I kind of like, you understand what I'm saying, though. - Yeah. - But if it ain't something like that. - But if it ain't that, it's just you trying to leave and you do it. - Oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah. - She says, I'm slipping you and you mad. - Right. - You're a bitch, I say, but, yeah. - Right. - It's some shots he should have been in the hood, like I don't know.

- Yeah. - It's one, I know, bro, it took 80,000 from a nigga. - From a nigga. - Yeah. - Game with the whole brother. - Right. - Right. - Yeah. You can expect that if he used to run into her. - If they would have found her in the trunk. - Yeah. It's warranted. - Yeah. - I get it. Yeah, absolutely.

- It's like a study all these days, don't we? Don't whatever you-- - Right. - You don't know what he did to get this money. - Right. - And you're gonna get that shit to your brother? - Right. - No, I get it. - You're saying what I'm saying? - Well, if I-- - If it's something like that, if we just saw him starve out of the hood,

- I don't know. - I don't know. - You can't understand that. - You're gonna say I'm saying so, but, but from the looks of it, it looked like she just was trying to leave. - Right. - And I'm saying he just was trying to leave and you wasn't trying to let it leave and you put hands and feet on him. - Mm-hmm. - And that's going. He went and jacking that. - Yeah. - And I'm saying, then we hear all these stories about you watching, you shaking out wild.

Love the niggas he's drilling and all that. That's nasty. Like we don't-- Like, I'm not-- I-- like, once you got a case against ladies, once it's a case against ladies, - Yeah. - And we don't give a fuck. Ain't no yo youths. - Yo, yo, that niggas snitch, throwing that niggas, what do you think? Yo, I know you used to be beatin' up his girl in this kid's shit.

Yo, niggas called a police, that niggas a rat. No he ain't no rat. You ain't gonna get me to call that niggas no rat. - Right. - And I'm saying what you to call the police and not. - Right. - Well, I ought to tell my bitch. - Yeah. - I know she was gonna call. (laughing) Now I'm saying-- - That's like-- - We're special.

- Yeah. - I'm calling the police or not. And he's still my car. I got a report stolen. - Right. - You know what I'm saying, but I'm just gonna be calling police. You fuck what I know. I'll tell it to a bitch. I know what the bitch is gonna do.

“- Right, that's what I get it. - All right.”

Before I get out of here, new music that's out right now, maybe we're recording this Thursday night. Maybe Kanye West bully is out. I don't know. - I don't think so. - I don't think we can bully tonight. - He already pushed back all the listening sessions because his own team put out a message saying, "All the listening sessions tonight are cancelled

because he hates the master." So I don't think we have bully right now. - If you're listening to this, I don't think bullies here. - No. It's not happening.

- But I mean, that's your favorite artist.

And that's your choice. - Okay.

Listen, I'm gonna say that from my own podcast. I'm gonna start some paywall shit that's not to make money,

“but you have to pay a lot. So you can't cancel me on my thoughts with certain things.”

- Yeah. - Oh, I wish I could just be so interested in Alhamdulillah. - Interesting. Just leave it at that. Very interesting. - What's he's ruining? - You're a beauty. - You're a beauty. - Noah, Olivia Smith? - Okay. - Olivia Smith? Noah, Olivia? - Oh, good, man.

Congrats to Fetty. Everything Fetty went through that I don't think he deserved whatsoever. I think that entire case is bullshit, and I think it's awful that he had to do the time that he did. So I'm, this Alhamdulillah could stink, and I'm still here to support. - I'm interested in everything that he does. I'm not saying, or think it's going to be bad. - Mm-hmm. - But it's tough to, you have to... - Yeah, I'm coming out right now.

- Yeah. - That's what I'm saying. It's quick. It's really quick. - I feel like I'm a say this, right? As a nigga that did mad time in jail, came home.

He didn't do a lot of time in jail, you know what I'm saying?

So he probably was like a Ray Brooker one of these shifts close to me from, and I'm saying, probably wasn't that far away. He was here. - Right. So we were in New York in the New York. I think he was in the actual Fett. I don't think he was in the radio festival, I don't think he was in the radio festival. So I'm saying like, he probably could have had a post on what was going on.

But even with people telling you, you imagine him was happening in the streets. Like they could tell you, like they could tell you your best friend did something.

“And you have to imagine the shit. You ain't see it. You got to imagine the shit.”

Five people could tell you the story. You still have to imagine in your brain. What happened? You want to say what I'm saying? To come home, that nigga just got here. They have a whole album ready. You ever see the niggas on the internet come on from jail and they be rhyming like the blood niggas. And I don't want to single them out, but specifically them because they're the big gang in New York.

And so you see these niggas come home and they be rhyming on the internet and they be trash. But they swag and it's like, how the fuck this nigga think this shit's sound fine? Because I'm gonna tell you how to have a look. They're on the internet and the dorm or sell blood. It's man, blood's there. Okay. They're gonna cheer you on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's been that trash. You think it's like, whoa. And they get the dishes and it's fine for 10 years. Meanwhile. Yeah. That ain't what they do. No two niggas said they sell blood.

No, no, no. So now when you see these niggas on the internet, they like, yeah. You like, nigga, what the fuck? Why would you be thinking you're getting it right now? Because he was in jail with the homies and they got him feeling like he nice. I'm telling you, yeah, yeah, it be like that. Should it be like that?

I mean, shit, I'm neutral. I'd still be like, yeah, that's crazy bro. Yeah, you see, I'm smoking that shit. Don't think he's been doing it. Yeah, he was like, yeah, yeah. What's it like, why?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You already been here, nothing else he's saying. He's banging on the walls and all that he thought he just got busy. I mean, it's almost stuck around with Mac Bolly. You killing that. Oh, my god, man.

I am looking forward to the store. God, I swiss bees. I'm all this for me. Same. How do you feel about stove? You like stove? I got a stall listening to stove more, man. Because I'm fucking with these upstate negatives, man.

And they sell their mad drugs in the music. And they seem like they don't only negatives, that's consistent.

“I think you're like, you know, you need to listen to reasonable driving.”

Reasonable driving?

You never listen with a stove, huh?

I might have heard it, man. I'm telling you, I don't really like he got some shit. He got some shit on the fuego base shit that I was on that shit. I like the fuego too though. He got some shit on plugged in.

Yeah. You got to listen to reasonable driving. That's still to me. Classic mix tape. Yeah.

I was going to say, it's probably the last classic mix tape that I could think of. I mean, I know, I guess it's, it's a mix tape to me. Yeah. It's a classic mix tape. Rob Maw some executive produce.

Yeah. You like rock Mawcy? Yeah. I love rock Mawcy. I'm not a real big rock Mawcy fan.

Why not? I just, I'm not. Have you like really like listen to him? Yeah. Yeah.

But what don't you like about this is the music is the rhymes. It's like it ain't mine. I don't know. It's just seemed like a little like. I don't really know how to put it.

But it ain't. You got, you got to really like, no, I really, I really did. You really got to listen to rock Mawcy.

Rock Mawcy.

His man arrow.

He's from long Allen this time, right?

Rock Mawcy. Every from all of them. He's five. That's shoot the best friend. I don't fuck where I rule like that. Maybe like that.

They nice. I say like I say. I think that's great round the best. There's no to sit right now. Like, you know, that's that.

“Oh, he round like a real 90s nigga like that's that.”

That's that flow. He's right. I mean, I don't know what your person is. Like, ball football in New York. I just, he better than shooter.

I think so. That's L. Yeah. They like, that's what it is. That's friends.

It's arrows. It's his flow. I love his flow. Like, it's that. If you just listen in, it kind of feels like it's everywhere.

But it's not though. It's not. I know what you mean by that. Because like, if you touch this into it, it's like, it's like he's on the,

out the pocket a little bit. But he's not though.

He just on the different downbeat.

Like, he's not on the, the nicest and the city. He's one of them. To me. Arrow, yeah. He's one of them.

He's one of the best mix in New York right now. For sure. For sure. He should make songs. He could make songs.

I'm just talking to him. Skill straight rapping. I'm just talking rapping like a dog. If you let it in, dog you. I'm going, I'm going to say yes.

I'll, I fuck with dog. Yes. I'm going to kill his knife.

“If my son could make songs better, it even make better songs.”

I'm going to make better songs. It's just give him to him. But anyway, okay, do that. Okay, you know what it is. I think Arrow will say some shit.

Like, Don is nice and he's going to be like, he smoked that, but Arrow will say some shit. Make you think about it. And you're going, it's the type of shit that you'll see your repeat. Like the next day, like, you know,

the nigga said, like he said, to me, that's the difference in arrow. It's like, you're going, you're going to walk away from listen to him. And you're going to repeat what he said or you're going,

like revisit what he said and you had more than with dogs.

But you're going to know Don is nice. You hear Don, you rap. You're like, I think it's nice. But Arrow just got a way of saying shit. It's, it's the way he says shit.

That's going. I think live with you a little longer. Just tapping with it though. Just tapping with it though. Just tapping with it.

Nah, I fuck, I know who that is. Like, niggas put me on the sun. niggas put me on the sun. They told me that was, they told me that was shoot a best friend growing up in shit. And I'm saying, you know, I was locked up with shooting.

Yeah, I'm saying shot the shoot. Punch my man. And I'm saying, man, safe with that nigga growing up in shit. And I'm saying. Yeah.

And I mean, so I passed him with sun. He nice. Yeah. I'm sure. I fuck with shooting.

“See, like me personally, I think it could be nice.”

But I won't be listening to that shit though. No, same. And I'm saying like, no, a lot of nice. But that's what I'm like. I just, yeah, yeah.

I'm saying, no mind. I get in my butt. I'm saying same. One hundred percent. I totally get it.

There'd be a lot of shit like that. Like there's a lot of shit like that going over. Like, like, I'm telling you to make a sun and drugs. Maybe you ain't sun and drugs. I don't really want to eat that shit right now.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah. It's dope. It's dope.

I'm going to be a guy. Yeah. No flames. Not my leak. I don't mean like flames.

Yeah. You all fuck with that? I do. Yeah. I like flames.

It's not something I don't know. I'm saying. I'm saying, but you'll say better music though. Stold makes way better music. Yeah.

And it's the music. I fuck play. Yeah. I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm a lot of shit. I don't know what's going on.

I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on.

I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on.

I don't know what's going on.

I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on. What's going on? I'm going to check it out though. Yeah.

Got to check that out.

That's going to be my first click.

I'm going to stay up for the stove, gosh. I'm excited for this. Yeah. I'm going to hit it. And my sister, Josie.

She's putting out her album soundtrack to get her back. That's Josie. That's, you know, you have like sisters in Christ. She's my sister in toxicity. Okay.

Nobody's more toxic than Josie, even though she. She's actually going to come up next week. Okay. She's one of the coolest chicks ever.

“She's like, she's like, you think young and mazes, neighbor?”

Yeah, sniper. Don't put Josie out there like, Josie's a sweetheart. She's a sweetheart. When you go put Josie business out there like that, we ain't going to do that. No, we're going to talk to her.

But Josie's super talented. One of the best pins in the game. Um. She sang. Yeah, she sings.

Yeah, she was all. I hate with the puff shit that happened outside of the obvious. She was the star.

That last album was incredible.

Yeah, she was like she smoked that whole project. Yeah. But even her projects, she put out though. Oh, yeah. That was that.

But to me, it was one of the best projects that she put up. Absolutely. Um, so yeah, I'm excited to have Josie up here next week. But yeah, we out there. Um, we'll see you all on Saturday, actually.

Saturday. Yeah. In New York City. If you're in New York, cafe. Colmado.

Two. 86. Brume Street. Come kick with us. 1 to 6.

We'll be there selling some merch. Talk. You coming through. All fee. Fabs.

Put up.

“You got, you got a monitor to the playlist that you sent over to Ryan.”

Yeah, you got to just stand outside. What do we got to do is his shuffle on that shit. If one gives the crowd is a New York Century crowd. He's going to be good money. Ryan doesn't know his intern hazing it.

He's going to have to babysit my daughter for five hours. He doesn't. He does not know that. Yeah. Oh.

He doesn't know. He doesn't know. He's off to see that. Thank you. She's three.

And she's like a terror three. She's not like a regular three. Five hours. - Five hours? - I would tell you, I would tell you.

- I would tell you, I would tell you. - I don't know, 10 years older than you. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Episode 473 | 75 Bodies

Transcript

This isn't "I Heart Podcast".

I live for the funk, I die for the poop.

To see people 30 years later still,

- But even as a bitch, taking.

- Any one could upload shit.

Why you, but you don't know that rhyme.

With bus, and you saying like, "Oh, you probably hate this because I'm smokin...

Is still a, is still a, a gap.

Plan.

It's like the old Polish saying, "Not my monkey's not my circus.

That camp that they did in that campaign where they had everyone in Atlanta, ...

I think Jid is put out more stuff.

- Singing on so my team on.

What Zip is saying is, if you, the top dog,

I don't think Jake Cole is real big in the streets.

- Every day, every day.

In such a search for these two homicides.

(laughing)

I'm Daniel Alargon, a writer and journalist,

Pulse?

But, I could see if I did some Frankie shit with Ditty,

- But I mean, that's your favorite artist.

Rock Mawcy.

I don't know what's going on.

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