Episode 476 | God Speed

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No, we're not. We're back, yes. And we're back. Are you feeling? Excited.

Yeah?

That's a little bit of a mobile.

Where are you going? Where are you going? I'm definitely not. Did you get a facial? Did you sit in the sauna or something?

You look hydrated, skin looks like a little tired to be quite on. Really? Yeah. He had a suit jacket on it. I thought what do you have a suit jacket on?

It's a jacket. It's just a regular jacket. You had a suit on today? No. When I show you the jacket, you're going to be like the maris.

How did you see it in what he was wearing? He was like J. Cole and I won Magazine interview. Did you cue one? I didn't. I don't remember.

I don't remember.

I don't remember what he was wearing.

Wow. Are you feeling? I'm great, man. Got my T. You know what I'm saying? Ended a week, feeling good, feeling great.

“Yeah, I think, well, definitely not festival season.”

I'm going to go to LA next week though. So, you come on that bout, man. You know, when you say LA and look me in my eyes like that, I don't know what that means. You want me to look at Flags? Yeah.

What would you men aware about it? We could do that together. I wouldn't have to mess up, though. Now, but I hate when you go to LA for like producer Rory stuff. Love Rory?

Yeah, because he walked fast and then you already do. Yeah. It's like, I can't keep up with him. He don't take them fucking sunglasses off. Yeah.

It's like, you know. It's like, my guy's working, man. I don't want any fit. You think you think what I'm in like the music studio? I wear sunglasses.

Yes. You think I have, like, like, a Ryan Leslie or something? Yeah. Ryan Leslie. Why did he call me?

I put on the suit glasses, everything. Yeah.

“What was the last time any of us have been in LA that wasn't work with it?”

I don't think I've ever been in LA not work related to my life. And I've been in LA probably. I mean, that makes sense. Maybe more than 50 times. That makes sense.

Most people from the East Coast, like, especially in New York, if you go to LA, it's usually for work stuff. And, like, no disrespect to LA, but if I have some free time off, I'm not getting on a five to six hour flight to go to Los Angeles for some R&R.

Yeah. That's just not where I'm going. Go to Ireland or something. If it's a vacation. Yeah.

And I have a lot of friends out there and they do give me a lot of shit. I'm coming out here when you're not working so we could actually hang out. No, no. I'm cool. Yes, I'm saying, I don't know if I want to go this time.

Would you work mode is just a different word? You don't want to be in the music video? What's my part? What am I playing? Well, I'm writing some sketches now for it.

Yeah. I could write you in. Yeah. I see what I could do. I see what I could do.

“I'll check with myself to see if it'll be okay.”

You can move stuff around. See if you got to hate our shoot day. I'll see. Give me a little 20 minutes somewhere in there, man. So I do need some extras though.

And I was going to put out like a proper flyer on IG story. If you need some extras in the video. If we have any listeners out in LA as of now. Technically, we'd be shooting on Thursday the ninth. Yeah.

I was going to ask if like some listeners could fill. You will fill some seats. I can call the homies. Okay. No, no, no.

You don't want to go. No, no, no, no. You may only homies to just stand around. I'd rather sit there and answer questions about draft debates and stuff. I'm not, I'm cool.

I'm cool. I'm cool. I appreciate it. Love you. I'm here to check in.

But we don't need just services at the shoot. I just had a homies full of it. Just make sure you are. Whatever you ever seen, gang members at video shoot and it went well. They're not gang members.

They're just from the same community, man. That's all it is. All right. They grew up together. Yeah, I don't come on.

Game of Thrones. Yeah, come on man. You know that. You know that should go. Anyway, we're back.

Sponsored by a booze mobile unlimited text and that. Maybe they was up. How are you feeling? I feel good. No, no, no, no.

I don't give me that shit. How are you feeling? You want me to be miserable off? No, I want you to. You sound miserable.

I want you to sound like you. I feel good. I'm listening to y'all conversation. All right. You just making sure you are.

I don't. Maybe I want to go to LA. Maybe I was trying to figure out what I had. I'm a schedule. You want to be like a video.

In the video. This is what I hold on. This is why baby. She just said off camera. She's going to be a socializing.

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She's going to be a socializing. She's going to be a socializing. She's going to be a socializing. She's going to be a socializing. If I go to Ellen, what do I do when I go to Ellen?

When are you at outside of nature?

“What do you last time you've been in nature, baby, dear?”

Um, I went and I was in nature. I took a very long walk when I was down south. Down south. If you're telling me, run your can, it's not socializing. Then I don't know what to tell you.

If you're like, "Nate, you outside." No. When I go to Ellen, I don't know. I'll be laying about that pool. Phone on the end.

Phone.

Your phone is never on the end, dear.

No, actually, it is all the time. It pisses me off. It's not for anything in the end. I've never never not on the end. Why you always get to phone on the end?

Because I don't like being, indeed. Or, indeed. I don't like being disturbed. My phone was on the end. I was just having a conversation with Lauren about how I was arguing with

Peach earlier. Me and Peach was arguing about back and forth. About what? Who had the best mortgage? I know our jobs.

So, Peach wrote me something and I wrote back something. He wrote me back and I was done this. I'm like, I'm not discussing this anymore. So, I wrote him back and I put my phone on the end. So, it went into, like, it just went to the mayor's phone.

It's like, "Do that a stir right after I wrote him." And he was like, "Don't silence me." No, I said what I thought it. I can't silence me. Wait, did it in a group chat with you, Loyon and Peach?

No, just me and Peach. Oh, okay, gosh, gosh. Okay. Pins somebody that you're currently texting on D&D, like in the middle of the time. No, that is wow.

That is crazy. Yeah, that's, I guess that's the new version of, like, slamming your flip phone shut. Yeah. Is the D&D thing. I don't, if it's, like, past nine o'clock, cool.

Everyone deserves their space. But Tuesday at one PM, get your fucking phone off D&D. It drives me nuts. Like, if I'm calling you, it's for a specific reason at this time.

I've never put my phone on D&D.

No one time. Are you ill? I'm just saying I've never, I've never, I've never, I've never, you just ignore people. Yeah. I don't like having to do that.

I mean, the ring is off. But like... I don't like feeling the vibration. You don't even want the vibe. I just don't want it.

I just don't want it. I just don't want it. I just don't want it. I just don't want it. I just don't want it.

I just don't want to know what the vibe is. Get that phone off. I don't want it off Rose mode. Yeah. I don't want no vibe.

“When I'm ready to talk, I'll go check and say, oh, did anyone contact me?”

If yes, then okay. I'll choose to who to respond to if not did not. Because it very caused me in the middle of the day. Even if I ignore him, because I want to talk. I'm not wondering what he wanted.

I don't even want that thought of my head. You want that old people like you. If you got your phone on D&D, somebody text you. You see the text. Even though some D&D, you'll hit them back like what?

No, I just don't hit them back. That's all. I wish remember like a way messages with in. Yeah. I wish we could have that in text messages, especially for specific people.

Like I can pick 10 people that can text me at any time without my a way message hitting them. But I want them like an automatic response of I'm not by my phone. Maybe I'll get back to it some way. Isn't that what the little thing on Instagram is now? Isn't that like a way message?

No, that's just for free. Where you serve like your whole. That's what a way message was.

Way message is always subs.

Yeah, you're both right. Yeah, it's always subs. Girls used to sub you. Why you currently texting them.

I'm like, who else could you be talking about right now?

“You just changed your way message in the middle of our conversation.”

Niggas ain't shit. Word. Word. Yeah. Word.

That's your way message. Hey, why are you like everybody else? Not an issue. Like Word. And you had to be like more creative back then.

Because now a girl could just post like a meme to like show to sub somebody. Someone else could write her material and get that feeling off. Like a way message is you had to take that yourself. Yeah. And say exactly what you were going through.

Way message is cool. I like that error. We need automatic out of the office text message shit. They kind of have that though. When you text people like this and the automatic text back.

Like aren't we driving or something like that? They do have those. Right. That's when like you're in car play mode and shit like that. Yeah.

But I want to like a custom one.

That first specific people like I would love to set my phone.

I still find it odd. I've been doing this for 10 years at the same time. And people still think they could call me when we're recording. Neither here nor there. But I wish I could just set something like I'm recording.

I'll get back to you when I can. Hmm. We'll see. That's what my. My location like you know how you can set custom locations when I'm here.

“My location says in front of this God for singing Mike.”

People who have my location will go look at my location. It's still called me and I'm like I'm literally at work. Like do you want to be on the episode? I don't. But yeah.

Okay. But even like co I hear you. But I don't want to give like everyone I ever worked with my location. Like Roya knows our our recording schedule for some reason. Just tends to ignore it all the time.

And sometimes he makes me nervous. Wow. We're recording like hey, your chase account just exploded. And like he knows I'm recording and like question mark. I'm like.

I'll get back to you in five hours. What is people's obsession with starting arguments with you when they know you are. Like a nigga will wait all day. The moment when a clock can't you know I'm sitting in front of his mic.

He texted why are you trying to fight with me right before I get front of his fucking mic.

I do not understand that shit people do that shit all the time. You know that in for my job like. Yeah, but that's because you give the wrong min access. I'm saying. Hmm.

That's your problem. Gotta start this. Start at the top. It starts with two bits. It's like oh.

It's made right from the head. Exactly. Why are you giving him access to you? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. You don't need that energy. That's going to matter. Don't you all off. You're giving the wrong reviews on music now.

No. You just start saying shit. I agree with everything. Yeah. Yeah.

I agree with everything. I agree with everything. Yeah. You don't want you all off yours. Come on.

Yeah. Yeah.

You got through the beginning.

I got through the beginning. Did you have to hit the alert anyways? And it makes the message go like this. Yeah. I just had to see what baby did.

What you wearing today. Cool. I mean me and Peach. We tried to do the same. Yeah.

White's got the white white. White's got the white arms out. That's for sure. I mean. Ryan's got a little of of your God speed flair going on.

But you know, just the Asian version. DJ banana. Every nigga that put on God speed. Thank you. Godson.

Hmm. That should be it. I don't think I'm Godson. So no. You don't think your Godson.

Hmm. No, Lucifer definitely said. Me. Just to see. But you know what?

Democracy trying to paint me like that, though. You just got to paint me like the worst kind of Nick. Get you mean Lucifer. Lucifer sent me. You mean how came from the bits of hell.

Lucifer was like, I want you to wreak havoc on the Bronx. Like you think it was me? You know, that's crazy. Like what are you saying about most moms? Like my bad.

I'm one of the most like progressive guys from my neighborhood. Like me? I'm not. I'm glad you added from your neighborhood at the end of hoof. Yeah.

I'm just got really, really from my neighborhood. Yeah.

“And like, you should probably apologize to his sister too.”

She was right there. Saba. Saba. Yeah. But you think this was sent me and not, huh?

Yeah. The demonic spirit didn't. Yeah. It was still right here. Isn't there some, some.

Bibleship with the devil angel and they were 20. They're not capable. Yeah. It's just like. It's just like on the street.

It's just like on the street. One of those chapters. Can't remember which one it is. One of those chapters in there. Oh, my God.

Right. Anyways. Um, I know tomorrow shouldn't not see because you're on D&D. Mm-hmm. But we did drop the, uh, the yay livestream link in the recording chat last night.

Did these watch, did you watch the Kanye show or? No. Are you the most progressive person in your neighborhood so you could not. Yeah. I was definitely, well, no.

I live in bedside. I am not the most progressive person in my neighborhood. But I didn't see it. How was it? I mean, it was Kanye.

It was incredible. Yeah. As much as I keep trying to find ways to hate him. I'm just, I'm letting y'all know as much as I really don't rock on Kanye with things. He said in the past couple years.

But like, he's still a great artist. He finds like the simplest things to make so. Like how, how come no one's thought about standing on top of the world and making it LED screens? Well, this was kind of sort of what they did with the, um,

the concert that him and, and Drake did. It's just more elevated. But that was kind of a lot of, you know, them standing on top of what we thought was like the moon or something.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

More similar to the Mexico City one and it was, you know, different set.

Um, it was very, very Kanye S. Though of stopping good life four times to tell his DJ. I'm sorry. Not the DJ. The lighting guy stopped putting these fucking lights on me.

Yeah, the strobes. Like, you know that guy. You know that guy was front of house having a fucking panic attack. Because I don't think he purposely kept putting those lights on. I don't think he knew how to turn them off.

So every time Kanye started, they went back on. Hmm. You know, you know, imagine. Because lighting people. I'm sure a fuckups happen all the time like in any other profession.

But to have one of the biggest artists that's ever lived, stop his concert four times. And you're sitting there front of house with your little ear muffs on. And people are screaming in your ear. Right.

“Can you imagine that anxiety attack that you would have?”

Yeah.

My thing is they didn't have like, because it felt like

they didn't rehearse that that it was kind of like he gave them the direction of the mood. He wanted the lights. He wanted it. And maybe he just gave like, no, he said verbatim after the fourth restart. We went over this and rehearsals.

Oh, so then there you go. I'm wrong. He said is this to us and else get like someone really fucking me right now. Yeah. They went through rehearsals.

Imagine. I'm just a novice. I didn't even really see the difference once he started. I don't know. I think there were lights only Kanye could see.

I didn't see the difference once he was okay with that. I was like, well, what did you try? Yeah, you're so maniacal and so, you know, meticulous with his shit that he would notice if one light bulb was out. Yeah.

Like he was like, now it's throwing the whole light. Nobody else in the arena in the stadium. Nobody knows. Nobody can see this one light bulb. That's not flickering the way he ate with one or two.

And he's going to stop the entire show to say, listen. This is not what we rehearsed. Listen. I mean, either way it was it was a great performance. Yeah, production wise.

It was great.

“I think they have some things to tweak with the audio.”

A little bit on certain songs like with the auto tune and things like that. I think so. I think it might be a live string thing because I hear you. They on the Mexico City wanted it fucked up a few times as well. I don't know if they're hearing that at the actual show.

I just don't know if the the line from whatever tune they're using with that microphone. That's in house. It's going to the stream if it's also going like maybe just one mic is going to the stream. Where is it should be both because I don't set up a few times. You think Kanye wouldn't wouldn't have that in order?

I mean, I agree with you. But it happened in the Mexico City. And I've seen that with other people that have like live string shows before. Sometimes whatever effect they're throwing on just doesn't make it to the stream. For some reason.

That's how they've exposed a couple artists for how they actually sound. You stream in this this Christmas time show. Yeah. Next on stream. What about Kanye?

He's been through the highest of the highs and the lows of the lows when it comes to celebrity. He's just been in the tabloids and headlines. But what is it about him to where he can pack out the sofa stadium like that after even going through all that being quote unquote cancelled. And losing some of the biggest deals ever and partnerships and brands and things like that. To still have over a million people in the queue to get tickets to show.

“And to pack the sofa stadium, which is probably his, I think that was his first one in the US in a while, right?”

It's first. Yeah. Concert. It's about a minute. Is he the biggest artist in the world?

Currently? Yeah. No. Yeah. I don't, like, how would you gauge that?

I mean, being cancelled the way he's been cancelled. Like Taylor.

But he's never successfully been cancelled.

Yeah. I mean, what do you mean by successfully been cancelled? Because we've had that cancellation, like successfully. Well, your fans don't cancel you. I'm on the side of that.

I'll down that hill. Your fans do not cancel you. But anybody that can't figure it out. Fans like Kanye, even, I don't even want to just say fans. The community that you come from and that support you.

Outside of the slavery is a choice. Shit. He never really did anything to, like, really be cancelled by them. Like the jules was never really like the bit like who was holding Kanye's career up. Well, I mean, he did get success, not successfully cancelled forever.

But a cancellation did happen. When you say, I could say anti-Semitic things and a deed is won't drop me. And then a deed is which you just made a billion. Why you're a billionaire was with your deed as deal. And they dropped you.

Kanye, the fashion designer, might have got a canceled Kanye. The artist did not get canceled. I mean, you was clearly clear if you signed the artist. So, like, you're not. Yeah.

No. So, in the fashion world, Kanye might still be cancelled.

Business wise. The amount of money he made off. He did that commercial for the Super Bowl, not this year before that. The amount of product he sold was, I think, a minimum billionaire again. Yeah.

But what I'm saying is as far as the type of deal he had with adidas, he may not see that type of deal structured again. Because of whatever powers may be that he might have offended. Right? That's different.

But Kanye, the artist, when it comes to his music, was not in danger of cancellation. Not even just from his fans, but just from a cultural standpoint. The people he really, really, really, really offended didn't. That wasn't.

No, it wasn't. They weren't going to buy a bully anyways. Yeah, exactly. I guess why I'll ask, when you say biggest artists in the world,

“you have to lean on numbers, unfortunately, with that.”

But like, it's tough to say, 117 units first week is incredible,

especially with absolutely no promo pushbacks, this and that. That's so hard to do to just throw out an album and do that. But, I mean, you still have Taylor Swift in the world. Like, if you're going off sheer numbers, yeah, it's, I mean, it's Taylor and it's kind of not close.

Like, by numbers, bad bunnies bigger. But you can't erase a 22 year career. That's why you can make the argument in my opinion. Kanye could still be the biggest artist. Oh, because you have 22 years to attach to it.

That's why you can sell out the stadium. He's been part of our last for 22 years of a very important way when it comes to this music. And people want to see that. Yeah, I mean, I get it when you say numbers.

I know obviously what bad bunnies does with, with Taylor Swift does. But I just think coming from our culture and what Kanye is able to do. And the things that he's been through and was able to still climb over and, and still get to a point where he sells out so fast stadium. And, you know, yeah, I think that speaks to the artist,

because the power and the magnitude of, of yay, like he's, I mean, it's just not many people I know that can do outside of the obvious. That can go through what he's been through. And still sell out and put on the show like he did last night at so fast stadium. There's not many artists that to do that.

I mean, I mean, now doing wireless first headline in three days. And I know we briefly spoke about it. But again, what not making a Kanye Drake thing. I'm just making a Kanye thing. He's one of the most petty human beings on earth that does obsess over people.

And what Drake do while his fest with all the people he brought out,

he put on an incredible three different incredible shows that week.

I'd like Kanye might show us the first real alien on stage.

“I think he's going to make this one of the most important performances of his career.”

One 'cause he's petty too because he's back outside. He's doing all these other kind of like pop-up type shows. I think that's going to kind of be Kanye's wave for the next few years of just these huge pop-up shows. Wireless is going to really, I think, set the precedent for all of that. 'Cause to the some people that may be like, maybe feel like, "Oh, I'm off Kanye."

He'll give you a reminder. Oh, yeah, fuck, I do like this guy. Yeah. He thought it was right. I mean, we got 22 years of my life have just been consumed by this guy's catalog.

Yeah. Yeah. They are the same dates as the Jay-Z shows. I think that's honestly just like a coincidence. I don't. Wireless is going to be wild. You think Jay did it because he knew Kanye was doing wireless?

No. You think, yeah, he did it because he knew Jay was doing Yankee. Well, wireless is going to have their dates set before they even get the headline. Yeah. Yeah.

But I don't even know if, if I would have known. Well, don't just smirk, speak. I'm not really talking. I wasn't going to overtake him. I don't know Jay-Z, like you know Jay-Z. Tell me. I don't know.

I don't think this is a coincidence. Okay. I'm who's part? Kanye. You think it was an incentive to take the wireless dates because they aligned with what Jay

was doing Yankee's day. One million percent. Interesting. Jay knew to the Yankee dates.

“You don't think Kanye found out the Yankee dates before the world did?”

Oh, I'm sure he has the ability to do so for sure. But you, so you think that was the, so reason. Like, all right, fuck it. I'll do it because wireless. Because I'm sure wireless is sent out in offer to Kanye every year. Like they, they send out offers to every a-lister.

Usually are met with no until it's the right timing. Don't shout out all the big ones do the same thing. So you think he got his usual wireless fest offer.

That his team always gets every year and said,

What's Jay doing? What's Jay doing? But once they date, they get when that Jay is doing Yankee stadium. I mean, and then, you know, they see wireless. They like, oh, no, we're taking this. Like, yeah, we're doing it.

Like Kanye is definitely definitely there's that's not a coincidence. There's no way that that's a coincidence. I don't have some secret information that I'm not sharing,

And these two artists who obviously, you know, have history had no each other. Obviously, Kanye says some things that we all know. He's falling out of the good graces of Jay in the last couple years. Like, there's this is, there's a statement that Kanye is trying to make. I mean, but it's like, for festivals period, it's a popular week.

Like, it's right after for the July holiday. Not getting the chance to, like, it's everything you're saying.

It's not like some, like, these dates have always been a big thing for festival.

Everything you're saying is right. You're saying everything right, isn't it? You're not saying anything wrong, Roy. I want you to understand it. I thank you.

But if you think that this is not, if you did, this is a coincidence. Cut the shit, bro. This is not a fucking coincidence. Which one of you to an end to? Well, I mean, you'll be, you'll be, but I'm just saying, like,

there is a thing now where people are like, damn, like, I ain't going a lot of, like, London, wilders, Kanye, three nights. Just in attaining it. As far as live streams go, it's not even close to me.

I will be watched if Jay Z does live stream the Eccostadium dates. All three, I will be watching and then I'll catch Kanye's replay. If they end up with a tie, I don't know how the times will. It's what six hour difference. Oh, yeah, it's under month.

Use. Oh, yeah. Okay, I can do both. Yeah. Dedicate every day, though.

Who you think, oh, we got to rent out like a movie theater. Or something for three days. That would be fun. Who do you think I had a better show? Jay Z.

Something about Jay, Yankee Stadium is just special. Like, I mean, the Kanye is kind. He's going to put on the hell of a show as well. But wireless, but Jay, Yankee Stadium, like, I mean, it doesn't get more than the yoke than that.

Like, that's like, you know what I mean? Like, you kidding me?

“Like, the only thing bigger than that is if they,”

if the fucking Dodgers were still in Brooklyn and Jay did, that's that. Like, that would be the only thing bigger than Jay Yankee Stadium. I mean, Kanye's going to have the better production of a show for sure. But to see. Beyonce, my back did couldn't stop enough for all.

Well, I mean, Kanye might be actually. She might be in control of the lights and the motherfucking, you know, the aesthetics. Well, I mean, like, you know what I mean? Like, like, you know, me cowboy card ain't going to be in the building. Like, she might be writing that motherfucking control pit.

Like, light shaw on the left. But also, I mean, Kanye is the reason every single alis rapper stepped up their live show. Jay Z included. Jay Z included. The difference between Jay Z shows that I saw before Kanye West was Kanye West.

And then after. Yeah. Everyone saw glow in the dark tour and said, yeah. Now, rapper. Now as rappers, we got to do this shit.

I thought that was just for the pop stars. Now, alis rappers got to put on a show. So I do think Jay Z has great live shows. Now, and puts a lot of effort into the production more than it used to. But he not beaten Kanye when it comes to to stage.

Like, Jay, Jay is not going to be walking on the moon. But that's just not him. But he also has reasonable doubt in its totality in center field.

“Like, that by itself is why I think it'll just be a better show.”

Because it's like something we've never fucking seen.

Whereas if Kanye is, well, I've seen Kanye walk literally from London to L.A. in one song. I've seen him walk around the entire world. So, yeah. No Kanye is that he's come on.

We visually, he's one of the greatest artists we've ever had. We know that. But I do think that Jay is going to step up his production for the Shanky Stadium. First show. I think it's going to be a different, a different level.

I mean, even what he did, do you think he'll have any of like the tricks? When he had lined made in America, he was at the main stage. And then he got off, which we thought the show was over. And he took a golf cart behind the whole shit and ended up on one of the side stages on the other side of the festival.

And of course, in retro specs, no one thought about Stan Peeds. Thank God, nobody was hurt. But yeah, once you started hearing whole of doing escharder collection. Mix tape records on the other side of the fairgrounds. Everyone just started dead sprinting to that.

Like, I thought those kind of tricks are cool. Yeah. Like, is he going to be in the dugout?

“Is he going to sit behind home plate with top of the stadium?”

He's going to be on. He's going to be on. He's going to come to the top of the food train to the state. He's going to be by my uncle Brian's ashes. Oh, wait.

He definitely goes subway service for sure. That would be hilarious. Haven't hold around the back of the train like that? No, on top of the train. On the back.

No. Back of the train. Put me on top of the shit.

Pulling 160 first street.

Walk down the steps into the state. I could see that. Yeah. That's exactly that. No.

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Now, the cam said that he, he feels like the bar in Otis, was directed towards him. He's run a point he used to run away on my murky.

And he also said flee in the G460.

Flee is cam, flee is cam. But flee also means to get away. I'm just standing on Tondruth. I'm just standing on Tondruth. I'm just standing on Tondruth.

I'm just standing on Tondruth. I'm just standing on Tondruth. I'm just standing on Tondruth. I'm just standing on Tondruth. I'm just standing on Tondruth.

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I'm just standing on Tondruth. I'm just standing on Tondruth. I'm just standing on Tondruth. I don't know if I'm on the side of cams in like yet, not as a fat. That was a shot of him.

Okay. They were just disincony a that month. Right on point easy. The way the wrong way it might mark you. So we're setting that part up of somebody that would be doing some type of harm to him.

Flee. Cams are the name in the G450. I might surface what's political refugee. Dip a met. A asylum can be purchased.

Dip a met a community. He signed to asylum at the top. That's just 1,000% about cams.

“That's why sometimes I wish like we always joke.”

Because we like no rappers and rappers have different ears. Like I wish I could hear all the things that rappers hear with those subs. Because only cam would get that because he's a rapper and they were beefing.

Don't I never caught any of that.

But why would my thing is why we can bring that up so many years later. Because somebody asked him. Do you think Jay ever disubbed? Ever should ever sub to. Oh, okay.

Yeah. He was just asked that. But yeah. I mean, the way he breaks down. I don't think it's a hit.

Don't know. I don't think Jay was like. Trying to publicly publicly discount. I think he just had word play in his head and laughed and said up. I'll tie in a little cam shot in there.

Then that only he will get. The funny shit is if he was the ace. Jay that he will look at you like. And probably wouldn't even respond. Well, he just give it look like.

You really think what you think like. I get it. Like it. I mean, it's a lot. That's the only one you're found.

Okay. Find out. Find the other one. Now, you might want to be combing through Jay's ears. Putting two and three together.

“But that's just how that's how he because he's not.”

Because Jay understands what it would be if he just flat out said. I'm going to point you easy to run away. I might murky. Let's like now. That's a little less corny.

You understand what I'm saying? But to tell her that way. It's like, oh, shit. Okay. That was fly.

Because you're not going to get that. Now, can because obviously he knows. You know, he would hear some things behind the scenes. And you know what I mean? Like he probably heard that way before caught that line.

Wait before we did. You know what I mean? Because he knows that was directed at him. Because of some person who shit that was happening. But yeah, that's the type of rapid that Jay is.

If he's going to go at you, it's not going to be so direct. Oh, yeah. I think that's that's like a skill in itself to be able to design a verse of bar like that. Where people can't get it like right away. It takes some years and just like, oh, shit.

He was going at this person. And I mean, if you just look at those bars, the fact of putting all those four elements into it, it had like. Now it has to be about came.

“I can't look at that bar and not think it's about came.”

But it's to ironic that all four of those things would be tied in together. And there's something. And not be about came Ron and dips it.

And like Jay's always did that with dipset.

Like when Jimmy was going out of him. It wasn't a direct disc, but started out the flex freestyle. I'm so independent. Yo, I might buy catch. Jimmy was on catch.

Like he would throw a little shots like that. Like I'm not going to directly dis you at this point. But I could own the company that you're signed to. If you want to play it that way. And you know, work for me.

Yeah. I think Jimmy heard that line. It was like, all right, that was a shot of me. Yeah. I'm not mad at camp for exposing that.

But it's, it's witty. It's slick. It's clever. I like that. Right.

That's mission. I love when people give me another reason. I love Jayzy. Hate the dick right. But I love when people do shit.

I hate to dick right. But they're going to sell a dick right. But well, you, you're a woman to this. Not disrespectful. I still is.

What's the mic? I was a dick writer as a woman. It's disrespectful. Is it? Yes, ma'am.

Okay. I didn't know. It's accurate. Anyway, I'm more accurate right now. I love any reason to love Jayzy more.

Like, I love that. Like, even all these years, I'm still getting more reason. Like. No. I'll take the right horse.

Well, are you here to defend your, I don't want to say your other horse.

Well, meca's your guy. You're currently right now. Meca's going back and forth. I am here to early in our friendship.

“One of our biggest debates was was meek.”

I love meek. But I think. History. History. Showed that my argument was correct at that time.

What was your argument? You said he was going to clean. Drake up. Don't do that. I remember when we were on the phone.

What happened? Yes, yes. I remember when we were on the phone. Are you out of your mother fucking mind? I hate Drake narratives.

So do not let me. You don't hate Drake. Accurate. That's not what I said. What I said was that meek's this.

I was looking forward to meek's this and that it was not as bad as people made it out to be. That's what I said. No.

I never said he won that bad or anything like that.

Which meek this. The one that Flex kept dropping bombs. I don't know. Does anybody have the whole thing? No, no.

Flex didn't even have it. He pumped fake and said you had it. Oh, yeah. That's what it was. But just during the meek and Drake thing after after back to back was out.

And me and the mayor's run the phone. And I know the mayor's to be a huge meek fan. So I was just fucking with her. And she was like, no, just wait. It's meek.

“And remember that narrative and I hope this doesn't sound disrespectful.”

Because he's a bad over here. Because he's a bad over here. Because he's a bad over here. Because he's a bad over here. Oh, my god.

They pumped that. And I was saying that was that. I was saying, you know. Of course, I've seen the DVDs. I've seen the dirty braids in the street.

I've never. I'm not from Philly. I've never seen meek battle.

So I never understood that.

Trying to tell the mayor's like, how you know he about a rapper. I've never seen a battle in my life. She said, nah, he's going to come with a bomb. And I said, he's about to use the same. Jeloby snare.

And just wrap about some bullshit. And that's exactly what the fuck he did. I'm going to be honest. I don't even remember the meek song. I will say war pain after that was really good.

Meek did have one really good beef record in that. Drake back and forth. And I don't want to make this a shitting on meek thing. Because everything meek said today. I completely agree with him.

I think there has been a campaign against meek in the media. I think he does it to himself sometimes. But Charlemagne going out and saying that meek was never the same after. The Drake battle is just absurd. His best album was posts.

Yeah. Drake. Multiple platinum. He was fired after ships. Of course, it was, yeah, he was clown on the internet for a while.

And he took a little time.

“But I think the best part of meek's career was post Drake battle.”

It's best music, my opinion. Yeah. I don't know about best music. It's totally, but best album for sure. Best project.

Yeah. I mean, he. Yes, I mean, he has some good records after that though. Hell. But that'll amazing.

Yeah. No, no. He went on his Instagram and we don't have to read the entire thing. He just paid him. You see, so we'll make sense.

So I want to make this a main post to highlight. I had already who's who's who's tweet from me. You can just start at sense the Drake beef because it's just a lot of unnecessary stuff. Yeah, but it's like the spell and the same meek though. The same for me.

Stop. Like give me back his phone. Since Drake beef, I dropped. I dropped. Oh, it might be him.

Hold on. Yeah. No. This part of this Drake beef. I dropped tap three times platinum.

Peta double platinum. Blue notes. One and two platinum. Uptown vibes were legend from Brooklyn Fab platinum. What's free features.

Jay Z meet me. I think it's platinum. Fuck on me. If he can call to be platinum. Scarface work was gold and opinion money.

Respect the game platinum. 24/7 double platinum. Dangerous platinum or double. I don't collect plaques. Championship's album like double platinum.

It's a pain gold. And it wasn't marketed correctly. Leave him late. We'll cyber truck five in Philly. How far we came.

He actually switched switched up on Drake because he helped power. The meat was done narrative was done. Now he's using the same against Drake. Drake go with me and Jay Z. Keep me out this week as shit.

I had a meeting with a 16 Z. Found a lot of new text deals. And activation just from playing around tween. I forgot proud of me. I'm a feature.

I'm a feat. Almost platinum. Okay. 1942 flows platinum. Let's go out.

Whatever you need platinum. No. Just out. I feel for you. Trying to read this.

Yeah. Not in not me still tween. That's still in his hands right there. No. But no.

Meek is correct. I hope it didn't sound like I was having any meek hate. Because when I saw that show. The main brilliant is clip. I'm like.

Maybe show the main just didn't pay attention. I don't know how you could even come to that conclusion. When meek some meek's biggest records outside of dreams and nightmares came post. The Drake battle.

So show all me said that meek never recovered.

From the Drake beef. Yeah. And he walked his take back on breakfast club this morning. We didn't watch the clip and can't verify exactly what he said. He was trying to say, oh, I wasn't talking about music.

You were. I watched the clip. You were talking about music plus other things. And some of those other things I do agree with him. What were the other things?

Meek. Meek definitely didn't help with a lot of the Twitter slander with what he would tweet.

Like all of us I felt like.

“Wanted to see me come back after the Drake beef and everyone was like you should just stop.”

With the social media shit because you had like this this aura that you believed as well before we got like. I don't mean it's in a bad way. We got to know meek more because of Twitter and because of that battle. And it just allowed the internet to clown him. Because I don't think meek even though he's the greatest Twitter of all time.

Doesn't know how the internet works. Like he didn't know if you just tweet that in his head. His saying these things is a flex not knowing the internet is going to clown you for your flex and make fun of you for the next six months. He didn't know how to control those narratives. So I agree with Charlemagne. He definitely made some mistakes being too public at that time.

But the music was it. But who in the world didn't love championships hit records on it. Features were nuts like you cannot say musically meet fell off. Definitely as best I'm for sure. But I don't agree that meek's tweets in the reveal of his persona hurt him.

I don't think that.

I think that meek's career musically was always going to be meek's career musically.

I don't think his tweets or anything has done anything to affect that. I think if anything the way us making fun of meek and his tweets has actually made him more lovable. I don't think that it's hurt him. I don't think it's hurt him. I don't think it's hurt him.

I think it's kept him relevant longer than he would have been just off music alone. That's a fair point. You and I have always debated like all right. At this point is meek just leaning into that persona. No, I don't think he's leaning in.

But I do think that it makes him more lovable. Honestly. I think. But I guess. Even reading that.

It's like in hilarious. Like when walls reading that. That's like when artists show. So some artists can have mystique and mystique will work for them. Right?

Beyonce, J.Z.

“I think you have to have a certain level of insurmountable talent for the mystique to work for you.”

Unless you know how to manipulate the mystique around a lack of talent, which a lot of people do that as well.

I think with meek who is a talented guy. Not the most talented, but he is a talented guy. But because he does tend to be a little repetitive in his music sometimes. And he, you know, he has really good stuff that is creative. But he does tend to be a little repetitive.

That's some complaints that we've had about his music. I think when you have a personality like that, it makes people love you more. I think you have to show more of yourself. Because being a mystique with that and then putting out some of the music that he's put out. Nobody's talking about you.

Honestly. I think he went through some stuff. Obviously business wise label wise. Project kind of like her just trajectory. So with the mayor's saying, I think musically, I don't think meek evolved enough.

You know, I mean, I think meek is who he is. I don't think that, you know, he's trying to be anybody else. Which is, I'm fine with that. But I think that just musically it sound. It didn't, it didn't up the level at all.

It didn't go to another level. Yes.

“I think it's been kind of the same meek.”

He's been consistent in his sound and in his music. And I think that on top of label stuff. I think that kind of, you know, leveled out his trajectory.

But I don't think that I don't think that wish all men are saying like he never recover.

I wouldn't say he didn't recover. I just don't think musically meek just elevated on what's another level. And then again, you went through shit with the labels and said he was going to put music out. Didn't put no music out. And it was like, it was, it was a lot of that.

But it wasn't that he didn't recover. Yeah. From a to Drake battle. And I mean, even to your point. There, I feel like if you say now meek, I don't like to turn my phone off.

Because meek could easily just come back because he's a talented artist. But I would say more of the drop happened with expensive pain. It wasn't my favorite meek album. And to your point as well, the label fucked it all up. But just musically, it wasn't my my shit when it came to meek.

But that was far after any Drake beat. Like, I don't, I don't connect expensive pain of that. That drop to the Drake beef because it was years. Mm-hm. I've been drinking a number one record between that.

Mm-hm. So if you could make a case of a meek drop off, it had nowhere near the Drake beef. It was way after. Yeah.

So I didn't have nothing to do with it. I just didn't like the struggling. Try to walk it back and say he wasn't talking about music when he's, you can clearly tell he's talking about the music in that that clip. It's okay, be like, oh, yeah.

I fucking forgot. I had my time lines wrong. I forgot all that shit happened after the Drake beef. Yeah. Which I fucked up time lines before.

I was like, well, you talk for a living. You talk so much. Sometimes you're going to say some shit. You just be playing out wrong. You got to come back and say, I was playing out wrong.

Yeah. Like, I forgot how that went. Yeah. Music doesn't stick with you. And you don't really get in time lines get lost.

And you're like, oh, the apple's after that. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. No.

Shalom and he was definitely talking about musically.

Yeah.

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Ebrose?

Ebrone will fuck with me.

Yeah, you do. No, you don't. You don't think Ebrose? No. Did I miss something?

As much as I pay attention, I do miss a lot of stuff. I mean, I know he'll like throw some LOLs in our comments. But you think there's like an actual. Real thing with you. Well, it's not real because I don't know.

I don't know. Ebrose like personally like that. So it's not real. But no. You don't fucking mean.

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None of us are really friends like that. You don't know me.

“I'm shocked that that's how he's felt when people are trying to get play listening.”

Yeah. Yeah. That's true. What's on your record? Yeah.

That's what was interesting. I don't really have anything after that. I thought it was interesting because he still is who he is at the second largest streaming platform when it comes to music in the world. Yeah.

Yeah. I think it'd be pretty important to help ERO again favor for a favor. Yeah. I know. That's just business.

That's not even just the music business. That business. Yeah. But a lot of people work for some work that I noticed. It's fake.

Man, this shit is a whole bunch of it.

Once people feel like they'll never need a favor again,

they don't really like it. Yeah. I'm like, you ain't hot. I can't wait. It's always going to be some niggas on our own.

I know. I can't wait for it. I can't wait for it.

“You know, every people I've been trying to like,”

we need to talk about getting a book mall said not. They pass.

I'm like more. I can understand why. I know. I know. I know.

No. I just sorry.

That's just how I am, man.

You're the healing. I stopped taking things personal. That's not personal. It's business. I'm to you know it's not personal with me.

It's I'm keeping it business. business. Not now we go with the, fetch one of the next one. But that's not business, ma'am. It is business. We're busy. We're now. I'm mad, shit going on. But I mean, I would owe it of like a social people not like that. Like I consider.

Pete a friend like if they never even started the show, I would try to help Peter anyway. I could if he needed the help. Not that he needs it. But I think it's it's corny.

If you actually cool with somebody and if they're not hot, then you're not fucking with them. That's corny as fuck to me. But it's just industry associates like I would understand. If I have literally nothing to offer to you and the only interactions we've ever had have been transactional, then I wouldn't expect much from them. And I wouldn't know much from me. Yeah. Just so there was a reason we spoke and it was to benefit both of us. And now if that doesn't happen anymore, cool. We're not life goes on.

“Yeah, life goes on. But then if you have people that are a little bit more than associates in the industry, you should also help them. Everybody has down time or gets fired.”

A lay dog like people can always use help. Yeah, but you just got to remember those that, you know, just remember certain things that happen long the way that's all. I like to just keep a little, you know, me tabs. Oh, yeah, I remember. And then we could talk about that on on on on Mike as well. Well, you remember we was trying to slow. It was a little rough for you around that time. We was trying to still fuck with you.

And you know what I mean? You kind of gave us the cold shoulder. And now you back. I guess I don't take things personal, but I do have boundaries because there was someone that came across our booking group chat that I've been wanting to talk to. And I said, he's canceled on us four times. Like the day of like no. Okay. And that's not a personal. I don't care. I've actually spoken highly of that gentleman to this day. But you're not about to just like play in our, there has to be boundaries here.

Yeah.

“You can't keep canceling day of at this point. Like that almost feels personal.”

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“I'm taking Arizona, I think Arizona is going to beat Michigan by more than that.”

I think they are too. I'm taking AZ and I think something like that. I think it's like an easy bet to be honest. Good bet. And then we also have Yukon plus one and a half. Hmm.

I'm taking Yukon on that one too.

Yeah, I think it's Yukon Arizona going to the final. I'm on that side, and even with these spreads, I'm taking off the spread and just off the win. Yeah. I think Arizona Yukon for both those. Where are you watching the game?

I don't know what games rather.

“I kind of feel like the final four you should be like the final four in the championship.”

You should be like sports bar, type of vibe. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. I might find a good sports bar to go sit and watch the game. When New York has like those, you have to like Google them because so many people move here. Like there's Yukon bars here.

There's like Arizona bars. They have it with football teams too. Like if you're a Cleveland Browns fan, you can find a bar that's just dedicated to the Cleveland Browns. Yeah. I would like to go, who do you think has the crazy fans between the four? I think Yukon, especially because it's closer.

Yes. I'm going to try to find a Yukon bar to watch this. I'm going to be among, be on my Michigan ball. It's crazy though. Oh, Michigan?

I take chances. They rival like the Steelers. Yeah. That fan base. Yeah, Michigan will be fun.

Yeah.

“All right. So Michigan bar for that game and then Yukon.”

I'll set up a whole tour for us.

Yeah. I just bounce around the city like wanting to tip off as in at four ten. Let's go. You got to try to make it through traffic. But then we got to pretend to be Michigan fans and pretend to be Yukon fans though.

I'm not going into the bar to stir up trouble. I want to be amongst the people in high five. Yeah, we got to try to hear this. Yeah, we got to be. We can't we can't feel like the I'm not trying to be that guy.

Yeah, no, no, no. We're not doing that. Peas. Where are you going to be? Peace out.

I'm going. I'm definitely watching that Yukon game is going to be a good one. Mmm. That's going to be a good game. The Arizona.

Who's Arizona? Michigan. That's going to be a good game, too. But that Yukon game.

That's going to be a good game.

I mean, I, but I also like the orange. I like the uniform. They match me. Maybe I should just go be with the orange people. Yeah.

Yeah. You have no problem getting it. They think you're the mascot. You're on the spot. Yeah.

But staying on basketball. Did you guys watch the Lamar? I did finish the last night. Listen, man. I'm just happy we still have Lamar with us.

Same. I'm happy we have money. He came by studio that was it last year. We have Lamar. I think so.

Last year. Really good guy. Good guy. Great guy. New York legend.

World champion. But this documentary highlighted, you know, which is what. I'm guessing it's supposed to be this to death. And life of the model. So it highlighted, you know, the dark, the dark times.

And a lot of the things that he's been through in his personal life.

“I mean, I think everybody kind of has to kind of like love Chloe Kardashian a little more than they probably already did at this point.”

Listen, man. I know it's it's so easy to kill the Kardashians. But yeah, Chloe I have to get my hats off to. Yeah. Everything she went through with that and how she handled it, especially even publicly with, you know, all the cameras around.

I didn't like, of course, I knew that they were a couple. I didn't watch their show. I didn't pay too much attention to it. But I was aware that it was a huge deal of them dating. Yeah.

To be able to go through that and hold everything down, which you think you're doing the right thing. But I mean, I think all of us have had addicts in our family where you think you're helping them and you're not helping them. Absolutely. It's it's something I empathize with. And I have a lot more respect for Chloe Kardashian and what she did for Lamar.

I couldn't imagine of going through that plus having to have the camera on you to. Yeah. Like everything is okay. Now, Lamar, my new. He was violent.

I didn't know. Fucking violent. Yeah. No, like I did this this documentary showed like. Lamar was like he was he was actively flirting with that.

Yeah. Like I'm talking about he was he was playing 101. When to take when to take the ball out with death. Like that's what he was like. Did you watch him?

I did not. I saw him.

“Like the like I seen some of like the highlights and stuff on Twitter.”

No, like Lamar he was he was playing. He was one on one with death. And death was winning. Like he like death was up by three. We all kind of came to the conclusion at some point.

Probably around the Maverick's time was like Lamar was probably doing coke. Yeah. That was kind of more some we knew. Hmm. Even with the whole bunny ranch thing.

I didn't know to the degree he was violent. Hmm. Coconut crack is one thing to do. Hookers is one thing to do. Taking 12 gas station dick pills in one sitting.

How his dick did not explode is beyond me. Well, I thought the clag did not give him the 12 heart attacks and 17 strokes. That was the gas station dick pills that did that 100%. But I thought like crack gets your dick hard. What you needed to pills for?

If I'm at the bunny ranch and I'm doing coke crack and I'm having a good time. If you don't think I'm going to throw in a little gas station pill. No, I'm getting my money's worth. Yo, that is. Great crack makes your dick hard.

I never knew that crack will make your dick hard.

We look at it. I've never smoked crack. Yeah, I don't. Never smoked crack. I don't know if I ever talked to a crack yet about.

I know people that know crack cocaine generally does not make your dick hard. Doesn't coke make your dick soft. But I'm thinking crack. Yeah, coke. I'll have them all crack.

You think the baking soda is what gets us shit. Even they lock it up. You think when they cut it to rock, they get you rock. Yeah. Rock don't get you rock.

No, maybe they don't. Yeah. But have you ever taken? Crack. A penis and handsome pill?

Oh, yes. There's great ones out there. You've taken one? I told you about boner bears. Yeah.

We just haven't allowed you.

They owe us money.

“Yeah, to marry those when she took the loan.”

That's a little boner bear.

I took boner bears. I took boner bears. I took boner bears. That's very cool. Yeah.

But anyway. Okay. But there are some out there that are like four men in women. You'll get your dick hard. Yeah, a woman more of the horning.

There's him and hers out there. Make that clear hard. I don't know. A granny. We've advertised our lion.

Like safe dick fills on here that we've talked about. Parts of movies. Bluetooth crew to like two live show. We was out here. Those are safe ones.

Yeah. Have you ever had anyone in here ever just drew him by a 7/11 at 4 a.m. Said, if I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it. Because this guy has before the black rhino. And when I tell you the veins.

We're popping out of my rhino or head.

Yeah, that black rhino grew into a crazy migraine. That was one. That was just one. Yeah. Now I understand.

“Lamar Odom is probably twice or not three times.”

My size is a human being. That still doesn't add up to 12 of them. Yeah, not as crazy. Twelve of those in one setting is fucking well. Like the coke. I mean, he was just having a good time.

I thought he that all happened because of a drug of malls. That bunny ranch trying to please every all 37 of those. Yeah, he was in there going crazy. And they had the EMT report. And of course, there was coke.

And this and that. And then one of the hookers said to the EMT. Well, yeah, he also had one of these. It was like brushed it off. No, you're not hearing me.

He took 12 of them. He was trying to fuck and cameras. That's not the wildest part. He died.

They brought him back to life again.

I'm over exaggerating. But it was like a lot of heart attacks and a lot of strokes had to put him in a coma. He couldn't when he woke up. He couldn't talk. He didn't recognize pictures of his son.

Chloe went and got him a care take or a chef once he could get out the hospital. Still couldn't move on his own. Couldn't do that. Chloe walks into the care take or house that she got for him. Immediately smells burnt plastic.

Smuffer can't talk or walk and is smoking crack upstairs after coming out the coma. What is the time to do it? Because you know what I was like getting the crack form. Who's getting the crack? She thought he had no phone.

I guess he had somehow found a phone. And I'm not saying crack dealers like need to have heart. But why are you selling the more old. If I'm not going to crack the crack and the Mars laid up in a hospital. He called me to my yo pull up.

“When I get there, if I see one boy, I don't think you should be doing this right now.”

I get it. But it's like come on, bro. And they're trying to be no fucking social worker. Remember that. Like at any of the day.

Yeah, but for me. He got for me. He died right there. You know what they coming to get. They go through his phone.

They're going to see what we called. That's the start. Let's start there. Yeah. They go look at what he called.

Is it worth that? I'm the guy that sold the more cracked that killed them. I don't think it's worth that. And I'm glad that that's actually a thing now. Like the person that sold Mac Miller is his drugs that

Laced with fentanyl. Yeah. Sit down for a while. You should have fucking checked that your coke didn't have fentanyl on it. Yeah.

I mean, that makes sense. But this like, it won't know fentanyl. You just, that's user era. That's like, if you can store sell me too much butter. And I got a hyper fucking tension.

Like, that's not the grocery store fault. You know that too much butter gun. Give you a hyper tension. The butter is fine. You'll be taking it.

You said what? The butter is FDA approved. Cracking. Cracking. I'm aware.

You can't have a conscious in the crack game. I've heard the songs. But to sell crack to Lamar Odom, when he can't speak or walk, is the funniest fucking thing I've ever like.

You've really about to go make that sale. But hey, man, he looked me. I mean, I have you know. And how am I? When people are buying coke, this lays with fentanyl.

They probably spend a little bit of money. How much crack? What do you mean? 12 hours that day? It's just not worth it.

It's not worth it. It's not worth it. My name is more in gas in Los Angeles at that time to do that sale of crack. Cracking will make a lot of money of one sale. How?

Did he talk about it? Because I didn't watch it. Did he talk about what he was trying to escape? Because if you fucking like that and take a crack, like you're trying to escape something.

He's an addict. Yeah. He's an addict. Well, no, you're an addict. Well, sex, whether it's drugs, whether it's like he's just an addict.

He can't do a little of nothing. That's just the addict brain. You know what I mean? So if he's having sex, I'm going to the bunny ranch. I just need a plethora of women available.

I want to have sex all day. I want to do drugs all day. He was an addict. He was just dangerous with somebody like him all day. Because he has money to support such a habit and to the highest level.

They don't have as much money and that he has access to. He can go all the way with his addiction. Yeah. He can do whatever he dreams of. I want to go step the bunny ranch for two weeks straight.

I want to just sleep there. Just fuck every day. He can do that. Yeah. Well, I'm seeing that they did mention that he lost his mother at a very young age.

He lost a child to cids. Yeah. And his baby mother abandoned it. Like well, it's been murdered and abandoned him. Well, she chose not to move with him to LA when he was grieving.

No. Well, she moved to LA. And then they also had a house in like the Queen's Long Island border. And that's where his child unfortunately passed away. And then it was back to LA and they were already on the outs.

Like at that point, he was cheating on his baby mother. You couldn't expect his baby mother to stay through that entire thing. But also addiction can be a reditarian. His father was in addict. His father went in when he was in a coma.

They never spoke to the fuck at all.

He walks in thinking that he is now thinking his son is dead. And he's going to now be the beneficiary of everything. Chloe and him are still married. He said, pull all them plugs. He was raised when I raised.

“But he has an addict father, which I think does add to an already impulsion that you have.”

Like it's a herredits everything. And that's your pops. And then Chloe gave him. Said you're not the beneficiary. I am.

I'm his wife still on paper. I make every decision here. And he said, can I get some sneakers and $100? That's addict shit. But 100%.

Yeah. But when I said, OK, so to go back to when I said, what is he? What was he trying to escape from? Yes, somebody can just be an addict. Yeah.

But there's a reason why they discovered the drug started doing. Like mentally, what was happening to make him start doing and discovering those. I think it was just a whirlwind of everything that happened. Happening. That was just childhood.

I will say too though.

I always gave Chloe a lot of shit, which I want to apologize.

Because I thought it was nasty after that. Whole comership that he went on that show and drove to the Kanye pop up at for Pablo. I was I public.

“I think on the pub was like, that's nasty.”

Why are you doing that? May just he looks so uncomfortable. I didn't know that he was the one that was always like I want to be on camera. It was his idea to do the Chloe and Lamar's. I didn't know that.

Yeah. So I apologize too to the Kardashians on that. I thought they would be exploiting people. No, he was exploiting y'all. I can't wait for more of the Kardashian men.

The adopted men that they've adopted into that show and family from fucking. I can't wait to more of them come out and speak because I have always been on the side. That the Kardashians get a lot of heat for the shit that happens with the men in their life. When I have always said that gaining a Kardashian, you are chasing fame. It is not them just ruining the lives of these men.

These men are chasing fame. You know what that family is like. They're not forcing you to be on camera. At this point. Yes, you definitely know what time it is.

And all of them should have that in the back of their mind. No matter how rich and famous the athlete is that there may be. A reason why you want to do this and be involved with the show. They should keep that in their mind where they got a lot of shit was. People viewed it differently in the beginning as if they were chasing fame with famous people.

And but the roles have to complete the roles. Like I agree with you.

“I think a lot of men that have dated them wanted to be on that show.”

Wanted to be next to a Kardashian. Wanted that LA shit. Wanted that attention. I completely agree with that. They wanted that light.

Yeah, that even confirmed because I always thought.

Like Lamar was forced into that shit and like how uncomfortable he looks sometimes. No, this was what you want. He looked uncomfortable because he wasn't high. He was looking for a fix. That's a great point.

That's why. He couldn't sneak coke on it couldn't put it next to craft services. [laughter] Where am I going to do my blow? Yeah.

Like yes. That's funny. Speaking of coke and crime. Pushaistein is dead. We're arrested by the FBI today.

April 2nd. On God knows how many charges. He was a kidnap and an arm robbery. Allegedly he did kidnapped Gucci. Had gunpoint and making sign of contract that said he's no longer.

Sign to his label. But. Listen man. I. You can take this one.

I'm lost. So it says, you know, rapper Gucci man.

Deliantic Davis was allegedly robbed and kidnapped by rappers.

Pushaistein. Big 30.

“And Dallas, this is according to the Department of Justice.”

They said that non people including the aforementioned rappers kidnapped and robbed at gunpoint. Newers victims at a music studio in Dallas. Eight of the non suspects were arrested on Wednesday. According to the Department of Justice in Dallas.

Memphis and Nashville. So obviously. They have, you know, people that are cooperating. People that are of a person's of interest there. If this through is that Dallas Memphis and.

Well, so they said they picked them up at. In Nashville. Dallas Memphis and Nashville. I just. I didn't need to do five years.

I'll be lying if I said I keep up with Pushaistein. But I mean, I'm I'm aware that he's big and had did all that time. You just get out and just. Like that. Get some head go to dinner.

Talk to you. Well, I don't know.

I'm going to say talk to your family.

Your dad's in the conspiracy. So it's in a pool. He set up a meeting with Gucci. May. To discuss the terms of his recording.

Contract.

“With one of the victims who chased the first roles.”

The thing we got that. When the three men went to music studio. What are you doing? And his eight co-conspirators. Several of whom traveled from Memphis.

Executed and armed take over. According to the Department of Justice complaint. The Department of Justice said Williams, Jr. pulled out an AK style pistol. And forced one of the victims to sign a release from the recording contract at gunpoint. The remaining co-conspirators also pulled out guns and robbed the other victims.

Of watches, jewelry, cash and other high value items. According to the federal officials. One of the victims was choked during the robbery to the point of near unconsciousness. The Department of Justice said. Yeah, this is a.

Do you really need the extended no out of studio? It's such a small space such as you need all those bullets. Yeah, this is bad. And while like at a studio. You know there's going to be.

All right, if you're thinking, I know Gucci's never going to say anything.

Just because of who Gucci is. Mm-hmm. You're at a recording studio. Yeah. Somebody comes.

Somebody's there is going to say some shit. I mean, not only that's cameras and a recorded studio. That's recorded. That's a recording studio. It's a recording studio.

It's a recording studio. You get the red button while you was robbing them. They got it all like they don't eat. Eat you didn't everything like. This is this is bad for Poucha.

This is terrible. This is very this is bad for him. And even setting up that meeting. I don't know. Gucci is obviously different than me.

But this is why you need people like Mall and Loy on in your life. If I said, I was about to have this meeting. They both would be like, do it on Zoom. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. You don't need to be in person at all. Well, I mean, this is federal. Now, right? Gucci was thinking, no one would do something.

This fucking dumb. Yeah. This is this is. I mean, I don't know, man. I mean, we could just have a lawyer's contact each other.

Right? I remember when they used to do that. It's the time we had contracts with. Have my lawyer call your lawyer. We figured this thing up.

Yeah. Poucha actually had other plans. No. He was like, but he wasn't going to get off the label like that. He only wanted to get off, you know, the little type of means.

Yeah. But now, now look at the means though. Now you got the Fed snatching you. Your your your your pops. Your homies like.

Somebody somebody got to sit down for some years behind this. And you're ready on. You still on probation. He's still got electric money. He's still got a bracelet on.

Bro, like, come on, fam. Yeah. Yeah. Electric monitoring dead. He had that monitor.

Placing Williams Jr. At the offense location and violation of his home detention conditions. Who we talking about here, bro? I'm on the DA sucked. This is.

Yeah, this is this is like. This is like dry like this is like. I don't like stupid criminals. He need to be locked up. I fuck with criminals.

But when you stupid like that, you would danger to all of society. Not even just people you going after. And I don't understand the amount. And what he's not a kid, but the amount of kids that commit crimes. Where that obsess over these.

YouTube crime channels of state. He's paperwork. How have you not fucking realized to not bring your phone. Phone. He has a.

I'm saying just in general of all the cell phone records. Stop texting people about your fucking crimes. Like, how is.

“How can that not go through your head at this point?”

So they got license plates. I'm bringing your phone on a robbery. So they went through the toles. So now they got like it's just. Bro, it's the doing crime like this now is just no getting away.

It's like it's. You're asking to be locked up. There's too too many ways.

There's cameras. There's might like.

There's no you're asking to.

Go to prison at this point.

“Like you're this is literally what you're asking for.”

Like, we're going to get caught. We're going to go to prison for this. Like, it's just not smart. And then you just came home. I don't know.

It's just way too many ways that they could handle this. If it's a contract dispute. I don't want to be under these, you know, terms of this contract. Let me out of this deal with that. Whatever.

Again, get some lawyers. We can fight this in court. We can go another way. But now. You're looking at some real prison time behind this.

It just doesn't make any sense. It doesn't. It doesn't. It's no way around it. He's so cute, too.

I hate what cute Niggas go to jail. These ugly niggas be out in free. And like, that's ugly niggas in jail, too. Yeah. I just don't.

What's worse? This or like the people I think they're the fake smart criminals.

Like, I don't think dirt do any of that shit whatsoever.

Free dirt. Of course, he had nothing to do with that case whatsoever. But the people that were free smart. His coat of finance. They thought they were smart by going flying a San Diego instead of L.A.

And driving. But you guys all texted each other the entire time. Like. And people are sending wires and stuff like dog. Go to a strip club.

But what I just said that we just put a beep on. That's common sense to me. I don't think I was saying anything profound on how. Obviously. Obviously.

Yeah. Exhibity. It's not common sense. These niggas are doing crimes that just it's like you're not going to get away with this. I don't know what skin.

What me and your had before you. I said how to do this and was like, yeah, this is a good idea. We're going to get you out of this. Like, no, you're, you're both to get them in some deep shit. Somebody in somebody has to be like, bro, this is not.

“You have to have smart people around you.”

You have to have somebody that just understands like, bro, this is not. There's another way we can go about this. Like, we can get out of this deal.

And another, this is going to get us in some serious shit.

This is a problem of justice. Like, this is federal. Like. You going down, bro. You're definitely going down for this.

It's no way around it. Yeah. And you have an ankle monitor, which means we're watching you already. Like, we already know what you're at when you're supposed to be. How did you think that this was?

You think you wanted to go back? I don't think anybody wants to go to jail. I just think that sometimes people be so upset that they, that they just don't give a fuck. And they like, not fuck that. Like, I'm, we going to do this.

And I don't care. We'll deal with three precautions later. Because I've seen dudes get that. Round up in the moment with eight, they just not think. And they like, I don't give a fuck.

Like, we going to do it. And I'm just like, y'all tripping. But it couldn't have been a moment. Because you got eight other people with you. Like, this was planned.

And this is that guy. It was a long call. And they had to travel. Yeah. Like, so you got all this time to think.

Like, maybe we should turn around. Well, you ever wanted to travel?

“Like, you ever got so upset that you wanted to travel to up to my ass or travel to kill somebody?”

No. I ain't traveling to walk nobody else. I'm going to see what I see. But I ain't about to book a flight. Get on the road drive.

Some hours and I ain't doing all that. So some pussy? I do that. To beat somebody up. How I catch that nigga when I catch them.

How I catch them and traffic somewhere. That's-- Dude, that's my-- Dude, that's my-- I'm not traveling to go fight no man.

He-- No, how-- What the can a man do to me? Well, I'm going to book a flight. You know, that guy's bad.

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