Midterm Mania! New Insight & Reporting into the 2026 Races

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now for a couple of weeks although they've been on the show in the past and I'm still learning about them and I'm excited to let you hear about their vision for media in the future or the future of two way but the future more broadly of participatory media and then also to learn a bit more about them and I plan to ask some questions that I don't know the answers do which is sometimes a little bit dangerous but we'll see how it goes. Anyway, Larry and Kevin

will be here in a bit and then shortly before that we're debuting a new segment here. It's called midterm. We're going to show you the best ads, the best strategies, the best analysis of what's coming up not too far from now in November with early voting beginning well before election day in these all important midterms election. So quick break and then when we come back next up is midterm media right after this.

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It's a crazy midterm. What's going on? The economy is a little unclear. What's going on? The democratic brand, the Republican brand, the Iran war. And as we close it on November, we'll be tracking regularly for you trying to figure out, separate the signal in the noise and try to tell you the best reporting I can get you from both parties and independent analysts about where we stand going into November with control of both the house and the Senate at stake.

Kind of a paradox here. I've become more confident on the democratic side that they have a chance to take the Senate majority. And at the same time, less confident that the Democrats will win the house majority. Doesn't really make sense. Does it? Well, explain how we've gotten to where we are.

“And the most important thing is always is to remember there's the things that are fixed.”

And then there's the things that change. What's fixed is history. Historically, the presence party loses seats in the midterm. Sometimes a lot of seats. What's fixed? There's a correlation between the presence approval rating and how his party does. These, these two things are immutable and they create the environment in which you'd say Republicans are not going to have a good night in November on election night. And the Democrats will likely take back the house.

That's been the conventional wisdom. And that Republicans have a chance of Democrats have a chance

to take the Senate. Okay. That's that's fixed. What's what's variable? Well, first of all,

what happens with the economy? What happens with Iran? And then the campaigns themselves. Right. Candidate's matter campaigns matter. And money matters. Another variable will be Republicans say now that they're going to, for the first time in a while have more money than Democrats, not just the campaigns or the party committees, but these outside groups. But I'm still watching to see just how much money Democrats can raise from their billionaires.

The Republican billionaires are energized. What about the Democrats? And then the small dollar contributions that we talk about so much year were Democrats have had an asymmetrical advantage. So let's talk first about why Democrats are very bullish on what's happening. First,

The president's approval rating overall in in general is quite low in by some measures,

by some polls. The lowest it's been. Here's a CNN poll. Number B1, please. Most Americans really are unhappy. And as the president's policies affected them adversely.

“Not great. Same CNN poll. You see here B2, which party do you trust more in a variety of issues?”

Democrats are trusted on almost every issue, not everyone, but almost everyone. More than Republicans, including on the issues related to the economy that are so important to the voters. B3, they're so called generic ballot. Which party do you plan to vote for? You see if you're watching the video version of this. I'll tell you for those listening. Democrats have widened their lead to the point where it would be hard for them to lose the popular vote amongst the house

in the house races, but they could because of jerrymandering, etc. Democrats could win the popular

vote nationally on the house, but not loses many seats as he might suspect. Democrats are pumped up. The president's approval rating, B7, president's approval rating is not great. This is the real clear politics average. And the president disapproves is, again, it's not the highest ever, but the approval down to 35%. It depends on the poll you look at. But Republicans are worried, and until there's an end, if there isn't end, before the midterm election day, to the Iran

“War, people are in the Republican Party are worried. So what is Democratic Sightman mean?”

Democratic Sightman means that they're giving money, they're signing up volunteers. And while we wait for the resolution of some of these primaries that will determine the strength of Democratic and Republican candidates in the fall, they're turning back to the man who's been the superstar of the party now for quite some time. Here's Barack Obama, campaigning in Texas with James Talloreco, the Democratic nominee in a race that before I didn't think Democrats had a chance

to win. But now I think they do potentially. Here's James Talloreco and Barack Obama, find some tacos. This S6, please. But I'm thinking is, got to get the street taco. I need maybe like a holy moly. Uh-huh, the street taco knowing it. I think you know the order. Yeah, breakfast tacos. That's right. I come here a lot. Oh, you got something there. [laughter] This looks like a table of trouble makers right here.

[laughter] This is my baby niece, James. Hey, you. That was my name. That's me. She's been saying Barack Obama. So she's almost got it. That's better than my sister.

So Barack Obama, as he most, you know, he didn't love campaigning unless it's for himself and would like it be in private life. But he's made it clear he's going to be out there. And Talloreco is, you know, resembles Barack Obama, vintage Obama, a young guy, an exciting guy a guy who's trying to remake the electorate based on an image as much as policy. Democrats are fired up about these midterms. They want to send a message to Donald Trump.

They want to demonstrate that they can go into the next presidential election with a lot of momentum. And they look at the polling data and they see a very unpopular present, a very unpopular war. They look at the gas prices. They look at some of the inflation numbers. Democrats are fired up for these midterms. That's the case for why you'd think Democrats are going to do very well in this election. Here's the counter case. And it's made most explicitly and most passionately

by James Blair. He's been the deputy White House chief of staff. He's leaving the White House

to basically coordinate the entire operation to try to hold the Senate and hold the House.

“And James Blair has a theory of the case that I think is put in sharp relief why Republicans”

maintain despite the presence, poll numbers, despite the stalemate in Iran. Why they remain confident that they can have a good night. James Blair, an interview with Politico this week, said this about the Democratic Party. Swing voters already think the Democratic Party is too far left. And we're going to make sure voters know just how far left they are. They, he means the Democrats, are woke, weak and way too liberal. And the whole country will be reminded of that.

Blair's strategy is attack attack attack and when in data attacks a more the best defense is a great offense. James Blair's right. The polling shows the Democratic brand is a mess. The Democratic Party defined by people, less by Barack Obama and more by some of the people, like AOC and other far left people in the party. They're defining a party that is vulnerable if the Republicans can make this not a referendum on Donald Trump and his stewardship,

but a choice election between Democratic and Republican candidates. Carrow said the same thing in his common the Wall Street Journal this week, pointing out that many of the Democrats' leading

Republicans will have plenty of money and a lot of sophistication to remind voters of what they don't

“like about the Democratic Party and try to convince them. Hey, you may not like everything about”

the Trump term, but you don't like the Democrats either. This is a James Blair specialty, is to use the modern techniques of campaigns, social media, and digital and everything else to try to define the other side. We've got some primaries to play out, but Republicans will have money to do this, and a lot of the people who are the biggest stars in the Democratic Party, at least for the progressive way, are vulnerable to being defined in a way that Republicans may

be able to make this a different kind of midterm election. Again, not a referendum on the president but a choice election. Here's one, one of the most interesting things, Democrats have a primary this summer in Michigan for run for an open Senate seat, U.S. Senate seat. They've got three candidates, the most progressive of the candidates, it's a guy named Abdul Al-Sad who is very much in

“the mold of Mayor Mondami here in New York, or maybe you say, "Talorico," or maybe Barack Obama,”

the guy's electric on camera, and we've seen in the digital age being electric on camera matters. The base loves him, and I'm currently based on the polling and conversations with people in Michigan. I make him the favorite to win. If you've not seen this guy in camera, here's a short video he made. Very strong, in terms of performance, here's Michigan Democratic Senate candidate Abdul Al-Sad. Feeling that every single time you go to the pump, you are paying

for Donald Trump's $200 billion reward. Your money, there war. I'm Abdul Al-Sad. I'm running

for U.S. Senate to end this war and to bring down your costs. Great ad, great message simple, great performer. He's got a medical background, a very likable credentialed guy, but he's far to the left. He's the Bernie Sanders candidate in this race. And article in the near

“times this week pointed out that a shadowy, a super PAC or two, our spending money in Democratic”

primaries, trying to help the Democratic electorate choose the most progressive candidates in the race, the most far left candidates in the race. Democrats, a centrist Democrats will cry, and James Blair will rejoice if they get that candidate, Abdul Al-Sad, has their nominee for the Senate race, because Michigan has not elected somebody that liberal to a statewide office in forever. So that's the strategy, and it dug tales with for the house races, the extraordinary success

that Republicans have had in the last couple weeks with a U.S. Supreme Court decision, and a Virginia Supreme Court decision on redistricting. There still states to play out, we don't know what the final tally is going to be. And as we've told you before, just because a party redistricts a certain congressional district to their favor, it doesn't mean they'll win it. The voters may have a different idea, but the current sense from political professionals in both parties

is that Republicans now have a real opportunity if they get the liberal Democratic candidates the nomination, if they raise a lot of money, if they make it a choice election rather than a referendum on the present, they have a real chance to win. The person that the two people who've put this in the sharpest relief, one is a conservative columnist Henry Olson, who's writing about the house terrain,

and here's what he says, B10, please, talking about redistricting and the successes Republicans

have had with more to play out, Olson wrote this, "These moves significantly increase the chance that the GOP will retain control of the house come 2027. As of April 22nd, after the Virginia referendum, the Cook Pollock Report rated 217 seats as safe, likely or leaning Democrat, compared with 202 rated that way for Republicans. Democrats would only need to win one of the 18 toss-ups for majority, but that doesn't take into account that there have been big advances

for the Republicans in other states, and they may get more. Here's that Cook Pollock Report data, and it's pretty striking. So the Cook Pollock Report is one of the agencies that looks at house races district by district. Another place that does that is a University of Virginia

there, Institute there, and here are their numbers. They basically say it's 211 seats are likely

almost certainly to go Republican, 208 Democrat, and so Democrats need to pick up a number of the toss-ups in order to win. That means Republicans can really spend big in these remaining districts, and they might get some more districts through redistricting. What Democrats are going to have to do to clearly win the house rather than eat it out, and if you got to eat it out, you may not get it.

five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten points, and put them in play to have a very big night. Now,

a few weeks ago, I would have said that was possible. I've been on the bigger end of saying

“how many seats I think Democrats are going to win, but Republicans are going to have to put”

those districts in play, and James Blair and the big money, and the redistricting have really narrowed the margin of error for Democrats. We shall see. The last thing that Republicans have going for them, which they didn't really have before, has been galvanized by their candidate in California. Spencer Pratt, running for mayor of Los Angeles, maybe won't win in a Democratic city, but what he's given Republicans is the sense of confidence that if they talk about how liberal

the Democratic party is, that they can have substantial success, and Pratt's done it, and his supporters have done it with AI-generated ads that speak in an authentic way about the weakness of the Democratic party. What's the record on crime? What's the record on public safety? What's the record on taxes? What's the record on competence? There've been a lot of these, some of you have probably seen them. Here's the one of the latest ads from Spencer Pratt, and it uses AI to mock

the current mayor, Karen Bass. It's a little sophisticated, a little subtle, but if you're viewing

this, you'll get it. It basically shows Karen Pratt in AI, the incumbent Democratic mayor,

a bragging about her record while in the background, you're seeing the post-apocalyptic world of Los Angeles. Here's New York or LA mayoral candidate Spencer Pratt ad, mocking the Democratic incumbent, Karen Bass S1. Our climate change policy is so strong. We've brought down energy use in the Palisades by 99%. Almost none of the needles and children's playgrounds have aids on them. If you like the last four years, you're going to love the next four. Vote Bass.

So again, it's some antironic, it's not a bass ad, it's a Spencer Pratt ad, but you hear Republican consultants all over the country saying, "Well, we want to take the techniques, we want to use AI,

we want to use humor," but just as much or more is what's giving them confidence, what's

siking them up is this notion that they can follow the James Bear player playbook. The Trump White House playbook can say, "Look at all these things you don't like about the Democrats." It's a very issues that Donald Trump ran on in 2016 and then ran again on 2024 to paint the Democrats as liberal. So what my reporting shows this week, ladies and gentlemen, about midterms, this mania will continue. The question of who will win the House and who will win the Senate, you got a favor of

Republicans to Democrats to win the House still. You got to favor Republicans still to hold the Senate. But this thing is up for grabs. The Senate has become more competitive for the Democrats. The House has become more competitive for Republicans. Logically, that doesn't make sense, but you can see the reasons why redistricting has given Republicans a chance whereas on the Senate side, the national environment is playing a larger role.

At least for now. All right, that is it for my report of my log here. For your midterm mania update, we'll keep tracking it. We'll keep the segment going all the way through November.

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Hello, Mark. Hey, Mark. You guys are both. Yeah, very nice. Three exactly. You guys have been regulars on the show, but now you're the what we call the television business, the permanent co-hosts. Larry, what's what's been the reaction so far? Been like to your being named as part of the

firmament on the morning meeting. Oh, that's pretty good, actually. I'm surprised because, you know,

listen, all of the other great right of center analysts that you've had, they all are very different than I am, Mark, because they've actually played the game. They've actually been in politics. They've held office of one sort or they've, you know, worked in the White House or they've done this or that. I'm merely a commentator. I merely, I merely watched it all happen and give my analysis and my opinion about it. So I'm humbled that I'm stepping into those footsteps

and sort of lending my, my voice to it from not a perspective of actually being in the middle of the government game, but instead being a citizen just watching it all unfold. So, you know, I'm humbled by that and I've been surprised at how supportive everyone is, especially the incredible two-way community to, to let me end the party. Kevin, you've appeared on TV for a long time,

but never as a, as a host of a show like this, you've been, you've been on another show,

“as we've been a part of the firmament, but what's it like for you to now be part of a daily show?”

It's, it's fantastic. And, you know, the, the alarm goes off and you start reading right away in bed, and the, you know, I don't know, a lot of community members say this to you Mark. I don't know, when you sleep because you're, you're texting late at night in terms of topics for the next morning and right away is what I wake up to you now, less waking up with my husband. It's more, waking up with Mark Mark Outburn and his, and his text and Larry, too, because you're

morning coverage. So it's a great way to wake up. It's a great way to start today. It's a great way to start the day on, on game, because again, you know, producing this daily show. You got to know what's going on, and you got to engage with the community, and to Larry's point that, that has been the least surprising and most surprising part of about this is you got to die hard group of two-wayers, nexters that are heavily involved, but just hearing that getting the text messages,

tweets, emails, has been incredibly purging, and you have built something really special here, Mark, and, and I know, I speak for Larry when, when I say it's just exciting to be a part of it. And I can also tell you, you're hitting a sweet spot here. Kevin, you get heat for the show being two mega, because I get heat from my audience and my supporters saying, you know, Larry, how do you put up with those two crazy liberals? And so I, but you also hear from other people

that it's two mega, and it's that you're too conservative and Mark's too conservative. So that is a sweet spot when you're getting a text from the left and the right, you know, we're doing something right. People ask me this all the time, and I'm sure they ask you, nine am-eastern time is not, is not that early, and of course, Larry and I are up Kevin, while you're still sleeping, doing actual production. But what do you guys read? How do you

stay aware? Because I'm so impressed with analogy, bring great experience and judgment and analytics to this thing. But you both know every time a topic comes up, you both know all about it.

“So Kevin, what do you read besides text from Larry to know what's going on?”

Well, that's significantly part of it in terms of what Larry fights and stuff like that. I read, you know, not to, you know, be to have a Sarah Palin moment here, right? Just anything that's put in front of me. No, but I, you know, I'm active on X, follow a lot of great well-sourced reporters and journalists with breaking news. John Alice's daily news brief is a must-read in terms of things that eat flags every day. He's got his own sub-sex. So I certainly encourage folks

to to check that out. I know Brett Hume also talked in the conversation you have with Brett. That was one of the things you guys talked about too. So it's a bevy of different reports. And then, of course, when I wake up too, I got the four-screen on. So I want to see what the coverage is across the spectrum when Fox seen in CNBC, sometimes BBC, but then also MS now, sometimes that flips out. So also seeing what the conversation is happening online in terms of

Yeah, I think, you know, I'm doing a three-hour morning show from six to nine right before

“we begin at nine. So yeah, and we begin our show prep around five o'clock or at least our”

rundown prep. We're doing show prep all the time and I benefit from having this great team on my radio show and we're all contributing stories and ideas and stuff that we see. Also, my work at

town hall allows me to tap into that great team of writers and editors who are always following

the news cycle. But now, I'm able to get the resource of the two-way team. You know how it is, Mark. I mean, we've got these great teams and I now involved with three different production entities that all have teams of people who are looking at stories and looking at what's going on. So I just happened to those resources and rely on those great producers and researchers. And my, the big regret I have is that when I would come off the air on radio at nine,

I would then plug into the morning meeting. And I would, I would either listen to it in the car or I would watch it on my device. And now I've lost the morning meeting as a resource. I just want some credit for going toe to tell the only person I got back in me up is my husband who's a Republican. So he's given me talking points from the right that are not helpful to me.

And they go toe to toe with with Larry every morning. He's got an entire team and an entire

makeup team. You find it. Yeah, you know, you want some Larry for that. It really has resources. But you've got, when it comes out, you're in murder them and fake them. But you know, Kevin, you're right up there with Elizabeth Taylor in yours. You know, in our conflict tradition,

“there are things called bloodless martyrs. And that's what I consider myself. Yeah, offer it up,”

Kevin, offer it up. So, so honored and grateful to be working with you, too, guys. Because the show is a different kind of show. And partly it's a different kind of show, because we do take questions from the community. When we started two way, we just had a basic thing, which is most contents one way. This is an opportunity for people, not just like in talk radio where people can call in once a month or whatever, but everybody's on screen,

everybody's on camera, everybody can see. And they can participate in the chat as well, kind of parallel to what we're doing. Besides that fundamental two way feature, Kevin, what's different about the morning meeting compared to other video political content that you've been on, or that you watch? Well, I think it's the interaction between, you know, I would say, saying, educated folks that aren't just talking heads, but with real experience, you know, and

in addition to Larry and I, Mark and the two A team have built a great list of contributor to this, all on screen, all very familiar with the two-way community, all well, all well informed. And that element is so important, not just for the morning meeting, but obviously the shows across the day that you, you have built this community a folks that aren't screaming at one another. We get tagged all the time with clips from CNN, other video outlets where you just have people talking

over one another, no one's learning anything, and everyone's going away mad. I don't know how

“people sleep after watching some of the shows, especially the evening shows. So I think that element”

of, you know, Larry and I are going to disagree up-down left in center, but we do it respectfully, and we've learned from each other, too. That's something that is sorely missing in the national dialogue in something that way, the two ways, all about including learning from community members that come live and ask really great, well informed questions. And oftentimes we engage in a dialogue with them, too, in terms of, okay, you believe this, prove it. And how do you back this up?

And I think that's something really, really special. Kevin, you ignorant slut, you couldn't be really long about that. Larry, I'm so impressed, but by you both, you guys, in so many ways, you're both extraordinary listeners. And most people on TV, on video, I keep saying TV, because I'm old fashioned, they don't listen. They're just rated to jump in and say whatever it is they thought about saying in advance, but you're just a extraordinary listener.

Well, well, thanks, listen, I think that that is what sort of makes this platform different, because you get got to listen. You don't know where it's going to go, especially when the questions are coming from the community, because I have the benefit of sort of knowing what direction

you might be taking with the topic selection market. You never know what the community is going to

say. And you got to be plugged in on listening. I get caught sometimes when I'm chatting with the live chat, and I miss something, and that's always embarrassing. But I love being in a format here where, you know, people are like, oh, there's a guy from the left guy from the right, moderator, journalist, so it's a debate show. This is not a debate show. This is an explanation show, where topics come up, we don't, I don't try to defeat Kevin or you mark, or for that matter,

anyone in the community. I just try to explain where people with my political perspective are coming from, why we believe what we believe. There's nothing wrong with us. We're not, you know, fascists. We're not on American. We just have a different perspective. And this gives people who agree with me, a platform to be able to hear somebody speak on their behalf in a respectful way and be respected by you guys. And it's shocking to say that that doesn't happen elsewhere,

community members from a few weeks ago, a woman on the west coast, I think she was in San Francisco or Oakland, who does investor relations and business advising to corporations. And she tunes in because she wants, well, out today, political effects in terms of what's happening in Congress, what the administration is doing through kind of the lens of both sides. And it's more informative

“to her and her investors in what you can share coming out of that conversation. I think that's so”

impactful and not just, again, talking heads going out one another, trying to support political points. It's a useful information, I think, to the larger community because we work hard to present that. And if I could just add to my comment earlier about how I don't work in government and I haven't worked for politicians, that actually, frankly, that's the one benefit I have here is that

when I give my opinion, I'm just giving my opinion, people always say, oh, you're sucking up to Trump.

I've never worked for Trump. I don't suck up to Trump. I mean, the extent of my relationship with Donald Trump and people at the White House right now is that I like it when they come on my program, so I can interview them because that's, you're doing it to get, you're doing it to get POTUS box seats at the next mid-shipman game in an app. If, oh, I know what you're talking. I'm very happy with my seats in the Navy in my Marine Corps. I would like to see on the Trump Kennedy Center

Board that would be a good point. Yeah, yeah. So, again, we're talking to Larry O'Connor and Kevin Walling, newly minted co-hosts of the morning meeting, the program that we do together, everyone did through Friday, 9 am Eastern time on the two-way platform. You can listen to it as a podcast or watch it on YouTube, live or on demand. Let's talk about your past and how you got to this point because you both have a great accomplishments separate from your new role on the morning meeting.

And let's start with Young Larry. See nine, please. This is Larry. Larry, tell us about, how was your childhood classic, classic American? Like, what was it about? You're the circumstances

“of your birth, the circumstances of your childhood, teenage years. What's classic American?”

Where did you live? What was it like as compared to deviating from the norm of the cleavers? I want you to know that that makes me look a lot older than I really am. Does that look like it was from the thirties or something? We got to color it as that. We got to color it as that. We got to color it as that. All right, here's here's C11. This is, this is slightly older Larry. Looks like, either, not that one. Sorry, C10, my apologies. C10, that's jumping ahead.

This is either serial killer Larry or scholarly Larry, depending on who had it here. Good.

So, Larry, tell us about your first one. The first one was, that was my, I'm the youngest of four

boys in Detroit, Michigan. And that picture was the first picture was actually in Detroit, right in Detroit, right in the city. In Detroit, this is the Detroit. Now, when I was like three or four years old, we moved to the suburbs. And I live, but it was a very close to try to live in a city called Plymouth, Michigan, which is basically right between Detroit and Ann Arbor, right? It's still in Wayne County. It's right there, sort of in the Metroplex. And I grew up there

until I was 13. And then I moved to Orange County, California, to live with my dad. My parents were divorced when I was five. My dad lived in Orange County, so I went out to live with him. Now, this picture with all that beautiful hair. That is Larry, I want to say that's 18 years old, 18 years old. Some, and I, in what, in what ways are you a Michigan, or in what ways are you a product of Orange County? Well, I still room for the Michigan sports teams. That's for sure.

Yeah, I still love my Michigan Wolverines. I do love my lions, my tigers, my red wings. Not the pistons as much, just because I don't really follow the NBA as much anymore. Yeah. But, uh, you love the, you love the, you love the, do you love the auto industry? Do you have connections to, I mean, you know, when it, when it, when it, strangely, I did not. Yeah, strangely, all my neighbors were connected to the auto industry. My dad was a publisher and

for a magazine that it catered to the trucking industry. But, uh, not, not automotive per se. But, but sure, I mean, I love, I love my American cars. I have two beautiful American cars. They're Teslas. Not, we're not the big three. Yeah. Were you as deeply unhappy as a child as you seem to be now? Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's for a while. I just have to go to everything. You don't use them for a boy. It should say it all. Uh, I must go as you enter by the way, because I do,

I do identify with the Midwest. I, I married a, a fine Midwestern woman from Oklahoma,

Meredith, and, uh, and I feel like I still reflect Midwest sensibilities. I never really fit in

in Southern California. I love Southern California. I love going to high school there. It was like

“fast times at Ridgemont High. That's why I'm so troubled in that picture because I'm reflecting”

on the last few years that I threw away in high school there in Newport Beach. Uh, and I also in that photograph at 18, I'm about to move to New York to start my career in the theater industry, because I grew up in high school, doing plays and doing musicals, and I was bit by the theater bug.

It do York. I worked for five years and I worked for the Schubert Organization, which is a

the major Broadway producer of theater owners have concerned. They own 17 Broadway theaters. And I, I worked my way up through the company, uh, to after five years. With a six-month break working at Lincoln Center Theater, uh, the theater entity was started by Greg Mozier and Bernie Gürston. That's like Broadway entity. It's not right. It's what? What's your most on theaters of Broadway House? What's more cut-through? National politics,

“people conclaves, or uh, the upper reaches of Broadway. It's on here. I think it's a toss-up,”

but uh, for what I know, I think it's Broadway. I think it's more tolerant of people who disagree. That's for sure. Yeah. But after five years on Broadway, the Schubert Organization moved me to Los Angeles to be the assistant manager for their LA Theater and Century City, which is no longer there. Uh, and then six months after that, because of the couple of circumstances that happened with personnel, I became their general manager at a very young age. 24 years old,

I was the GM of the Schubert LA, and that's where I spent my 90s. It was a pretty heavy time. So, how do you, what, if you're making the film, the L'Ario Conner Story, which someday could happen, what's the scene where you go from theater guy to content creator,

political guy? What happens? Well, uh, first off, I was always a conservative Republican,

all through high school. I was a conservative Republican. These were the 80s, and I was in

“Orange County, California, Ronald Reagan once called it where good Republicans go to die.”

Be one Bob Dorn and it's my congressman. All right. So, this is this is the culture I grew up in. Moving to New York, I didn't realize that, you know, we could talk, we couldn't talk politics openly in the office. I couldn't. Uh, and so I kept it to myself, but I was always a Republican. One day, as a, as a, as a, I loved talk radio, talk radio was sort of my escape. I could turn on the radio station on a Walkman back when we had Walkmans, and I could work and listen to

people rush limbo and other conservative commentators, you know, finally saying the thing that I was thinking that I couldn't say out loud. And I heard this guy on the Dennis Miller show, uh, his name was Andrew Breitbart. And Andrew Breitbart was talking about how he was working with Matt Rudge, and he was, you know, part of the whole new media revolution, and he was starting a new website called Big Hollywood. It was all about conservatives who work in the entertainment business. And he said, anyone out there

“listening who work in the entertainment business reached out to me and tell me your story. So strangely”

on a large, I sent him an email and I said, I live in LA. I work in theater, not television and film, but I'm a conservative. Here's who I am. And he immediately sent me back his phone number. He said, call me, uh, we talked for a while, and he wanted me to write an article for him about David Mammot coming out as a conservative. Well, really, he wrote an article called said, why I'm no longer a brain dead liberal. That was the headline. Uh, and he said, right, what you think the theater industry

will do in reaction to this. And I did, and he said, you're in. And the first day, the big

Hollywood went to press the first week of January, 2009. Uh, I was there under my assumed by line. I had to use a nom-to-plum mark. I was stage right. That's it. I, uh, I want to ask. That's clever. Thank you. Uh, and I wrote for him for a year. And then I started doing a streaming audio show as an experiment, because people I worked with in theater said that I had a good voice and I should do voiceovers. And since I love talk radio, I started experimenting with

podcasts and audio streams. Andrew liked it. I started streaming it on his websites. And before you knew it, I was guest hosting for radio host like tennis Miller and Hugh Hewitt and by 2012, WMA Ellen Washington, D.C. hired me as their morning radio host co-host at the time with Brian Wilson. And it's this, it's a building and building a national following too that includes my sister law, who has a list, who has been a day one. She lives in Aiken South Carolina and the reach of the

O'Connor media empire has reached her and she starts her mornings with you. And we're so excited for this partnership. Larry, is this, is this what you feel you were meant to do? I feel like God's put me right where I'm supposed to be. Yeah, I really want to know. What's your biggest unprofile professional ambition now? Oh, I haven't thought about that because I just got it. I wanted to be a national radio host and I was just honored to be brought into the Salem Radio Network and so my show on

in D.C. So I'm going to have to think about that. Probably I want to do my show on the deck of a cruise ship that would be fantastic. All right, and do you have, do you have all your content in one place or all mixed around now? It's in the process of being consolidated right now, but it is a little bit mixed around. Yeah, I'm hoping that my sub stack will be a clearing house for all of it. That's Larry VIP dot com. But now it's a little, most of it is sitting at town hall. Yeah, town hall dot com because

I'm the editor there and that's where the radio and stuff is. Right. Tell us about one more photo that we're going to talk about Kevin C. 14. This is Larry with someone I believe you mentioned previously.

That is at the radio row of C pack. I want to say 2010, maybe 2011. It was, I think the last year it was at, oh, you know what, this may have been 2012. We were the Andrew and I were filling in for Dennis Miller. We were doing the show from the radio row. If this was C pack 2012, Andrew actually ended up passing away about three weeks later. I know this is, it was, it's definitely at the old Marriott Wardman hotel in DC before it moved to National Harbor. Yeah, Kevin's Andrew. Kevin knows

everything in everybody, but Kevin, am I right? You never met Andrew Brightbart, right? I never did.

No, I never did. Yeah. He's in, he's still, his influence is still obviously shaped. Yeah, and shaped a lot of people. Yeah. And a credible guy. He's still reasonable guy. All right, let's talk about young Kevin. Let's start with this C1. Kevin tells us about the people we've got to get the people they want. Yeah, sure is. I was at that. Orchard enough to be in only child raised by my mom and dad still together, beautiful family, island and Peter, the pride of central New Jersey,

the best part about being an only child is they took me everywhere. And my friends growing up are all my parents friends. So I, you know, the references that I get all the time on the morning meeting

is because I'm actually 74 in terms of my estimations and pop culture references. So how are

you, how old are you actually given? I'm 40 years old, turn 40 years old. And again, Kevin, Kevin gets references that are suitable for a 70 year old, it's a quite remarkable. But you've been explained why because you were only kids like my son, he's an only child. If your parents

“hang out with James, James, you have to be pretty sophisticated. Yeah, because he has to get a bunch”

of references from from on the dad. So what was life? What was life growing up in New Jersey with your parents? Do you travel a lot? You've referred travel? What kind of did you have a white pick at fence? What was life like? It was ideal. We lived in cold the sack town outside of Princeton, outside of trans or central New Jersey. Had a great went to public school my whole life. Great group of friends was involved in the, in the theater. I was not that good of an actor.

So I was behind the scenes in terms of doing stage productions and stuff like that. But that was

always a blast. But one of the forwarded things, of course, and growing up was 9/11 because,

you know, growing up in central New Jersey. So many of the moms and dads in the community committed to New York City. So we were a commuter town, kind of theater town to the city. I was a junior in high school when that happened and knew a number of parents that died that day. So that was, you know, kind of your high school was kind of wrapped around that experience. New I always wanted to be, you know, state politics. Love the politics. My grandmother was a big

city mayor in central New Jersey as well. And she died before I was born. But her influence is kind of carried on with me as well. And on the other side, being raised by my mom and my mom's grandparents team, both who were were two folks that kind of shaped me as well. So, again, great experience growing up in central Jersey, public schools going all their nights. And even a public answer. And sorry, any republicans and your families, all them are. The entire extended family,

“except for my mom and dad are Republicans. And the worst thing I did to them is not get a piercing,”

not get, you know, you know, crazy haircut didn't die my hair. I decided to become a conservative Republican in high school. And this same outfit with this income over, it's been that way for 30 plus years. And terrorized my poor liberal parents for defending Georgia, so they both shine ashcroft, everybody, like that as a Democrat, as a Democrat, as a Democrat. No, as a Republican. No, I was a Republican in high school. I was a devotee or out of my pain. I was out speaking. I

still didn't want to vote. Then what happened? Well, what the hell happened to you? I went to college in the study in D.C. in Catholic view. And realized, you know, this was just an act of rebellion. And then obviously, it was super taken by Barack Obama and realized some of my brother and sister's keeper and big good for me. It was the same as the other one. Damn, so young, young Kevin, young Kevin was playing at a high level of Democrat politics at an early age. Here he is,

C3, trading with a super nice touch. How old are you in this picture, Kevin? So that was in

“two, that, so I was 20. And my dad's on that talk surrendered. I think I owned it, but it was from”

high school and it was a prom touch for sure. But my dad's uncle was the former surgeon general the Navy and started trying here in the 90s. Very close with a few folks at the VA and DOD. So I got to be his date for President Bush's reelection in auguration and took that photo back in 2005.

young Kevin with young Joe Biden. How did you, how did you meet Joe Biden? What's the circumstances

“of this? So I was a kid in turn. I fell in love with politics. Was a kid in turn on capital”

Hill, worked for a guy named Tom Carper, who was the other center from Delaware, former governor, great guy. He just retired not too long ago, former Navy captain. Just a great center, center, kind of left guy, former governor, kind of one of his best friends with Susan Collins in the Senate. They got a lot of stuff done, cheering the Homeland Security Committee back and forth. So that's those were the politics that shaped me. And got to spend some time played on on the Tom Carper,

Joe Biden's softball team in terms of the Senate, a softball league. So it was a, it was a lot of fun. You were on a big year's league. Handsome young man. Tell you, well, look at that. Yeah,

let's take that right. I will be here soon on a lot of times three. I guess I took all of Joe

Biden's talents from that. He's, he's got a bin phase now, and I, you know, I had to then face, is that from your, that's from your college years. That's from my college years. Yeah. So I started, I, I, I took my classes in the morning and that night, uh, starting somewhere, you're so I could commute to Capitol Hill once they Catholic you. And it was right on the red line. And that was the most formative experience was literally working as a kid intern and then worked on a Carper's

reelection campaign on the finance team. And that was, that was the best education ever. Yeah. Here's C8. This is Kevin with another Democratic president, Barack Obama. Kevin has a magical ability to have photos of all these moments. Like I've met a lot of people and this is before this is before the age of AI. Yeah. So where's that? Where's that? So this is, this is at the Ravens head one, the Super Bowl. And this was at the Ravens Super Bowl party on the

South lawn with the president. How did you get it? Yeah. What are you there for? That's a good, I knew a bunch of folks in the Obama administration that were far too long. Kevin, Kevin knows everyone who has the party list. Have you noticed? And I took my, and I took my dad, I'm a dad was there. He's not in the picture. But it took my dad because he was a Ravens fan. And that was a great experience. Yeah. Kevin again shows up. He's like Zellig, or Forest Compirious,

or C5, or Z5, here's Kevin with Monarch, King of England from the, or section a few weeks ago.

“To have him tell people about this one. This is C6, please. What are the circumstances of this one?”

Yeah. So the previous photo was with King Charles III. That was at a reception host by Sir Christian Turner, the new UK ambassador at the most recent state visit of the King in the Queen.

It was an incredible experience. Got just a few moments with him, but he was incredibly

gracious. And we talked about that visit over the course of the days of it when it was happening. It was just the thrill of the lifetime. Really, really great experience. And then this is the exiled Crown Prince of Iran. We were at Fox News together. Now a few months ago and had a great conversation there, even before the lead up to the current war. So pulling for him and his people. Do you hire a photographer to follow you around? That's my question.

It's either, so it's either Alex, my husband, who took the King photo, or a book or producer friend that I just throw my camera to in there, gracious enough. Please follow up again. All right. Let me hand on the hand. I'm only child. I got to get pictures with these people. By the way, I did not submit the photograph, but I do have the iconic guy standing next to Trump at the Resolute Desk picture that everybody has, you know, where you look.

I don't have that. I don't have that. I had that. I was not expecting to be invited into the oval. I was interviewing the president. We were having a media. And so I looked awful. My hair looked terrible. I had a beard at the time and I don't know why I was just going through this weird hippie

“phase back in 2019. I think it was. And so it's a terrible picture of me, but if people want to”

look forward to it, it's up. All right. I want to use it. All right. You will find it and put it in. I think yes. I think you both have mentioned your spouses. So let's close with this segment with that C7. This is Kevin and Alex. Kevin, how does Alex respond when you're stopped on the street and recognize what it is? Well, we both married up. And that's one of the key things we have in common Larry and I in terms of our spouses. And I've been lucky enough because of this opportunity to get

to know Meredith and excited for that Larry's beautiful, brilliant wife, the Pride of Oklahoma. This is Alex. The Pride of South Carolina is made me a seven in gentlemen now. Guru, he Alex grew up in South Carolina, came up in South Carolina politics, ran the state party down here. The Republican state party. His grandfather was a close friend of strong thermon. So it's like the two divergent worlds coming together. This was on our recent overseas. He's the level

of my life shapes everything smarter than I am, gets politics better than I do. One of the fun things the other week was Mark and his wife and Alex and I got to spend some time together around a correspondence weekend. And just watching Mark and Alex swap stories about South Carolina politics,

both of us to watch. What happens when you're recognized? Is he like it? Does he think you do a

good job? No, it's the best week of my life and the worst week of his life was the Milwaukee Republican convention. I was there doing a bunch of Fox covered. I just co-hosted the five and out number of the day before. So it was fresh in people's minds. And for that whole week, people were asking for photos, the lovely time I had a terrible time in Chicago, no one recognized me there. Alex turned from husband to body man over the course that week. And it was great to watch

“him do that. All right, here's Larry on his wedding day. At least that's what it's like to”

come in with. See 11, please. Here's Larry and Meredith. And here's, and here's Larry with the kids. See 12. Here's Larry with the kids. Larry, what is your family think of your celebrity? The, well, Meredith, Meredith tolerates it's interesting because the the recognized me thing is just now starting because of the the added video of my life because being a radio guy, you can stay pretty anonymous. But Meredith does she she goes to many listener events

that we do in Washington. I've got one too coming up this weekend, one on Friday and one on Sunday. And she's always asked the same question, you know, about, you know, did you listen all morning? Do you just listen to this interview? Is he insufferable at home as he is on it? Very rarely do I get the question actually. Maybe that's a youth thing Kevin.

The answer is always she doesn't listen to the radio at all. So I can talk about her freely

without worrying about the repercussions, which is great. And her answer is always, oh, I get the Larry of Connor show 24/7. So I don't need to listen on the radio on demand in real life. All right. She doesn't have to pay for the ads either. She gets it. She gets it right. By the way, Alex, the, the things we have in common Kevin that I learned it's it's just terrifying actually because both Kevin and I married Southern Baptist who are conservative probably more

conservative than we are a 100% definitely in your case. Both Republicans coming from a proud Republican family as well. Meredith Dad was the chairman of the Republican Party in Oklahoma. It's not the state in the Cleveland County, Oklahoma and a big part of that party apparatus there.

“So we have so much in common. It's freaky how we got together for this show, Mark. Did you do research on us?”

Did you have us followed? Hey, hi, hi, hi, hi. Oh, hi, hi. All right. We're taking quick break. And then next up, we're going to test the limits of Kevin's knowledge of old trivia and popular. Sure. That's next. That's next up. Think for a minute about the last 30 bucks that you spent. Maybe on a streaming subscription. You don't even watch or a lunch you've already forgotten. That's $30 that's gone forever.

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All right, joining us now next up, Larry and Kevin are back. My co-hosts on the morning meeting on the

two-way platform. And as we mentioned earlier, Kevin is younger than we are, but almost never fails

to get our cultural references. So Larry, you'll do this off the top of your head, because I didn't warn you were doing it. Kevin, I'm going to name some cop-pop cultural things. And you tell us what they are, ready? Great. Here we go. Shields in your nail. Mark, is that Mark Shields? Nope. Bad. Larry, come on. Tell him what he's telling who Shields in your nail. They were streetmimes that God famous doing the whole robot thing back in the 70s. They became

gas sound like sunny and share and make it flip. And then they had their own shoe for their own. They had their own shoe for their own. Yeah. All right, Kevin, you'll grab some more of his mother's brother's kind of guy during those realities shows. All right, Larry, Larry, give one off the top of your head, give him something so you've Kevin knows what it is. Oh, give him a question like that. Okay.

“What was helpful? I mentioned Flip Wilson. What was Flip Wilson's character when he appeared in drag?”

There you go. That's a great one. I know, Flip Wilson. That's a great. This is separating literally the men from the boy. Because Larry, Larry and I know this like we know anything and you're just like no idea. The correct answer. We were looking for Geraldine, Geraldine. I know Flip Wilson. I didn't know that he did do. Back when guys could put dresses on,

well, here's my, here's my question. Yeah. Jack Lemon famously did drag in a black

black maybe. Something like it. Where was it filled? Tony Curtis Charleston South Carolina. No, at the hotel Del Coronado. Oh, I did know that. I did a little stopping. So we can play this game. Okay, couple, couple more, couple more. Pink lady and Jeff. Pink lady and Jeff. Yeah,

“doesn't ring a bell, does it? No. Larry, I'm doing this on top of my head. I mean, I think these”

are all failed NBC shows, too. Yeah. Pink to another fake TV show. Pink's a weird show. He's a Japanese person. Give me some of the young Johnny cars. Do you add of Japanese girls? Yeah. Very pretty girls who sang and for some reason became a thing. I think that network execs at NBC decided they were going to be a thing. More of a captain in Teneo, gonna get what it comes to to to say. I couldn't tell you who Jeff was. I just remember

he's like a comedian pretty. All right, we've mentioned Captain Teneo, who wrote Captain Teneo's biggest hit, Kevin. In correct. In correct. The song "Love Will Keep Us Together." You don't know who wrote that again. Larry and I, Larry and I, Larry and you don't know. You don't know who wrote it. Burp back to the back. Yes, Larry, exactly. Larry, tell him who wrote "Love Will Keep Us Together."

I'm going with Neil Sedaka on that. That is correct. Neil Sedaka. I mean, you know what I mean. We just lost Neil. We did. At the end of the song and their version, she sings Sedaka's back. That's a little wasted. Follow-up. Neil is. Neil is. Neil is the father-in-law to what TV and movie star. Oh my goodness, I have no idea. I don't know that. Neil Sedaka's a baby.

Is that true? Wow. That's crazy. I'm just being baiting for that. I'm googling. I'm googling that one. Hold on.

Neil Sedaka. Neil Sedaka's second biggest hit, of course, Muscrap Love. Muscrap Love was

“it. I think it's actually their third biggest hit but keep going. That was a cover of”

what great bands actually originated the original version of Muscrap Love. Oh, no. I got a wrong. It's Paul Ake. Paul Ake. Not yet. Yeah, that's not yet. Easy to confuse. I did not. I did not know that Muscrap Love was a cover. So I have no idea. It was a cover. America, the great trio. America, the banders, America, the band, they did Muscrap Love originally. Interesting. Did not know that. All right, Kevin. We still

think you know way more than most people, despite stopping the band on our own. We need some more some better references there, I think. Really, you want some better ones? Yeah. Like, give me, you know, Jack Clark. Don't you know, come on. Ernie, what was the name of Ernie Covax late night show? I know Ernie Covax, too. I didn't know the name of the show. The going out of a trick question. It's called the Ernie Covax show, I believe. All right.

“Maybe the opposite of the opposite of a trick question. What city is David Letterman from?”

He's from Indiana. Is he from Indiana? Is he from Indiana? Larry O'Connor. I think it's Muncie, isn't it? I think it's Muncie. He definitely went to Ball State, which is in Muncie, Indiana. Yeah, maybe he's not. Maybe he's from Indiana, let's see. Letterman hometown. All this stuff is available in the Google machine. Mark, where you a Letterman guy or a Leno guy, when everyone had a Letterman letterman all the way.

Not even a close call. I think nothing against Jay Leno, but I respect Jay. Don't do it clearly. Yeah. Well, that's, and that's you, Johnny Carson wanted to. He was the best. He or he said that. My last question is something Larry and I really interested in. Kevin gets invited to everything. If you read a Politico playbook every day at the end, they got the big parties and then they put him gold face, everybody is fine. Kevin, Kevin said everything. So Kevin, what's this,

what's your secret? How do you get invited to everything? The secret is to be fun at cocktail

parties and not be weird. I mean, that's half the battle is Larry. We know now why we're not invited. Yeah, no, no, no. Half the battle is slam on Alex's arm and he's the most charming engaging. He can talk to anybody. So most of the invites come to him. And then I'm just like you enough to be like Jack Kennedy. And if you're the plus one, Jackie Kennedy is Berlin. Didn't the ever say plus one? Does it ever say plus four or plus five so we can come to?

Is that the case? Then you are, you are my hot dates. All right, guys, you're the ideal guest for a variety of reasons, including I don't need to do the promo. Larry, tell everybody where they can watch you. They can watch me every morning from 6 to 9 on the Salem News channel or listen on the Salem Radio Network or if you're in Washington on WMAL. Then they can watch me at 9 a.m. with these two fine gentlemen on the morning meeting.

No, I wanted you to do something. I'm doing the entire plug whole thing on the morning meeting

“streamed live at 9 a.m. wherever you like, although we would like you to come and join us in the”

community. Yeah, go to twoway.tv and join and be able to ask a question. And then I go live every day at noon

on my YouTube channel for townhome media where I do a lab board of a monology, classic conservative

“right of center commentary on politics in the media. That's probably my most red meat show.”

Yeah, and you can get that at noon every day. And just to be clear, Larry, that means Larry's doing five hours of content every week. How are you doing? Five hours. More than uh,

“me Camler Jinsky, more than Regis, more than I think Larry, more than he does it and he does it”

live and he does how long how long is Brian Kilmie's radio show? Is that an hour or two hours? I think it's like two or three. I think I think he's doing three. So Kilmie is six a day. Kilmie does up there. Yeah. Yeah. Kennedy is a co-host and they do all the heavy lifting on Fox and friends. Let's fix it. Yeah. Yeah. It's on the list. Nonetheless, none the less Larry you're right up there. You're going to pass Regis. Um, grateful to you both for being here to your grateful to you both

for being part of the morning meeting and honor to have you as my co-hosts and look forward to having you back here regularly. Thank you. Thank you, Mark. All right. That's it for today's program. Back Tuesday with a brand new episode. Hope everybody has a great weekend. Hope you tell everybody that you got to know Larry and Kevin better than ever before. So tell your friends to become

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