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β>> I think that's better than most, how about him?β
That is better than most, better than most. [MUSIC] >> Expect anything different? [MUSIC] >> Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Nullang,
a podcast presented by our friends at title. This is my name is DJ, joined by my good friend. Solid Chris, how are you? >> Thank you, Dennis, I am great. How are you on this Saturday evening?
Nice to be chatting with you. >> I'm doing great, man. Another great day at the player's championship where Ludwig Oberg, must credit TC, is your leader by three over young Michael Thorbiorenson, came young one back at minus nine.
In for a great final round, we're going to have TC pop in to join us here shortly. He's currently speeding down A1A and his white Bronco trying to get back home from the golf course, looking forward to getting all the reaction from him.
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>> Shout out to title list. >> Let's start, so I have course with the great man Ludwig. Starting a little slow, a little bit of scratchy start today.
Mist is first four fairways.
I believe it was kind of driving it all over the map a little bit. Mist four of its first seven greens is one over through eight. But nobody was really pressing on me with his plan with Zander. Zander wasn't really pushing him too hard. They kind of just stayed in neutral a little bit.
Zander got his first birdie of, I'm sorry. He's Ludwig got his first birdie of the day on number nine. He didn't absolutely seed in there. >> That's somehow bounced down to that bunker. But got it up and down for a birdie that was his first birdie of the day.
Of course, we're going to talk about it. Made a 17 footer for Eagle at the 11th. That kind of was a little bit a little bit more of a hello world type of moment there.
He's third Eagle in the last 29 holes.
He's just missing number 16 to complete his set of crystal on the parfives this week. Settled in after that looked much more steady as Zander kind of things things deteriorated for the X man out there as well. Ludwig stuffed a good one on number 17, hinted about eight feet, but missed a putt. And then three putted 18, run another one, kind of eight feet past and miss in that one.
So it all added up to a bunch of parrs in a 71 and a three shot lead for Ludwig.
βWhat what's stuck out is actually I believe TC just joined us.β
So he didn't he didn't miss much. Why don't we just we can just go ahead and bring him in because I have a feeling where he's going to want to talk about Ludwig as well. So please, TC, this is your moment, absolutely nothing could possibly go wrong to Maro. He has one, we've cracked you called it, just this is your moment tonight and we'll just
go ahead and celebrate for you tonight. Thank you, Sally. No, I think I think tomorrow's the moment. We're going to wait. It was a little scratchy there the first five holes or so was with them all 18 holes today.
And impressive, the putter he's making pots that he would miss like some of those four five six footers that he missed the last few years and I was really impressed with his bunker plan today too. So we can get into it, but what do you guys see on TV? Well, it looked like he was struggling and looked like all right, we're not playing pen
the ears back Friday, 63 base clogging, rally killer, all of our any stuff looked like it was on it. And then he looked up and he was like, well, he didn't like lose any ground and that would looked is not quite literally as bad as he could play, but it kind of felt that way in the early part and it was like, I, okay, he's probably, you know, he gets the birdy
on nine. The 11's very accessible there, like that's probably going to be a birdy there and he's going to be in a very good, in very good shape, birdies nine then goes and equals 11. It was like, dude, you guys had your chance with his guard down, everybody else made massive mistakes at some point today and he just refused to do it and he just looked like he
looked like the best call for in the world, honestly, I mean, a bunch of those T shots that he hit were like the guy we saw two years ago, more than the guy we saw last year and
Recent weeks and it just leaves you wanting more, it leaves you wondering why...
seen this level of play from him and seemingly quite some time and it, I'm really not saying it's a jinx. I love Ludwig. I mean, one of the easiest guys ever to root for, I don't see a way that he doesn't win this tomorrow. It just feels like his, I would be as confident as, with him as anyone with a lead like this heading into the final round players.
Sorry, according to the, the Fedora five, it came out on Thursday, 90s, the second best player in the world, right? Of course, but best player in the field, right? Correct.
βI mean, yeah, I think was number one. Sorry, I, I, I, I agree with the first three quartersβ
of what you said as far as obviously like his like ability, how much fun he is to watch the fact that like when he swings the golf cup, I think Porter kind of wrote this in his newsletter, too, that he doesn't like when Scott, when I watch Scottie play golf, I'm just
like, I can't do that. Like that's the best player in the world. That's incredible. And
when I watch Ludwig, I'm like, oh, okay, like, it just is like watching a simple machine. I'm like, oh, I understand that. I see how he's generating power. I see how he's, how he can't miss from that position. Like, I'm not saying I could do it, but like I can, you know, I can understand it for sure. And to your point is like, man, how does that not work every week? Because when it's just, when it's, when it's on song, as our friends
across the pond would say, I mean, it just looks so freaking easy, man. The T shot on 16 looked like that. The T shot on 18 looked like that. Like, how do the look does it sky
βever lose? And then the last quarter of what you said, we like trust him as much as anybody,β
like, I don't know, man, there's still enough wobble in there. It's still a golf course that is notorious for letting it get off the rails and two shots swings. And all that stuff came young had some great quotes after his round today. He was talking about 18. He like, yeah, I mean, it's a golf course for just like straight up, if you hit a bad shot, you're going to make it double. You're going to make a bogey like if you hit a bad shot,
you're going to make it double. And it's, uh, they're out there. And I think tomorrow is an awesome test. I said this, actually, you guys earlier today, I was like, I think the most exciting
scenario is a Ludwig, like three or four shot lead. First, like, we're, all right, man, do you have it?
You have it? You have it or not? Go slam the door. You have the minerals. You have the minerals. Do you have the bottle? Go do it, man. Go do it. I think the, yeah, it was kind of a scratchy start, like one, you know, one was fine, like pin high there, but two bad drive on two, uh, good approach on three, nutty. And then, yeah, four four was where I was like, ah, that wasn't, that wasn't the norm. There he kind of hits that, like, he was getting a little spinny on the front nine there, um,
but like, what did he such a more mature player? Then he was even 12 of the 18 months ago. Like, I think back to the masters or whatever, that the, the up and down on five, the up and down on seven, just, like, really steady to himself. And some of, like, you know, that, like seven was, was kind of bizarre.
βWell, that's how I was going to ask you about because I'm like, okay, I fully understandβ
when he hits a good shot, I'm like, okay, all the pieces worked. That was great. What's it like in person? I haven't watched him play in person enough? Like, when he hits a shot on, like, seven, I'm like, that sucked. Like, how does that, what does it look like? Does it get just, like, baloney and high and spinny? Is it the wrong club? Like, what, what's going on? Yeah, I think on seven, it went kicked up a little bit there. It was up there the whole time. I think they just got the wrong
club and, and, like, it looked like a decent swing. And he was kind of posing on it and then it came up 20 yards. That's like, holy shit, what was that? There's a front pan and stuff. And it was, it was a, it was a, it was a whole location to where you don't want to go to too far past that because there's a big, kind of roller there. But again, like, he made, he made that, that I don't know what it was. He had to have been 10, 12 feet on seven and he's made a ton of those this week,
especially for par. And after that, it was like cruise control. Like eight, it was just, you mean 30, you mean on five, he made a 13 footer. He only had five feet on seven. Okay. Yeah, five are, yeah, 13 footer on five, hit the green on six, like, good shot there. And then yeah, and then seven was kind of the last of of the struggles. Really. And then it was like eight was great shot in there. Nine, like such a delicate shot from that bunker. I know you were there
person. It was just being out there last couple of days. The reminder of like, you know, you could watch that shot and TV be like, ah, yeah, he missed that one left. Like that man missed that shot point. Oh, one degrees to the left of that flag from two 90. Like it was such a ridiculous one of the shots of the day and ended up in the bunker. It was like, yeah. Well, and like those bunkers aren't easy as you know, it's all like it's such a heavy sand and and you know, like it's
tough to get much spin out of them and you're so far below the surface. And then really from then on,
it was like, all right, game on like 10, it was a really good second shot into 10, kind of a tricky
Pin there on the left.
except for, you know, 15 feet or higher the pin and and kind of a crappy spinning one on 12,
βbut like awesome bunker shot out of that. I think he wishes he had that birdie put back.β
Barely missed his spot on 13. And then yeah, just kind of smooth smooth sailing on 14, 15, I blew it through the fairway a little bit. Any other guy, I think would have made the TV truck move like they had fun with this. What a great man. Broks gets it there. Meanwhile, Xander was so slow all day. Like they were a whole, they were a whole and a half behind after two or three holes. They got warned right off the bat, love. They kind of laughed. Oh, man, it's like, man,
I wonder who could be home. They were all looking for the guy who did this. Yeah. I mean, some of the some of the other commentators out there were, they were pretty pretty both siffrous like, like, man, it's like it's getting worse and worse with Xander too. Like that was just a really bad round of golf, compounded by exceptionally slow play. And then like the drive on 16 was like, I was just staying there right there with Ryan Lavner right on a tee. And I was like, holy shit man. That was just
βinsane. Really bad second shot in there. And then what did he flub the chip? Yeah, I think maybeβ
he just went under it or something kind of like the delicate chip out of like super thick rough. I think he just scooped it a bit. One of those TV shots that like we've seen a lot of the best players in the world, just mess up because it doesn't look that hard on TV, but you go and stand there and try to hit it out of that rough at the water. Like balls rolling that quickly. Like Jacob
Bridgman's second shot into 16 T.C. writing it to see it hit like a great down the elevator
shaft, you know, fade in air hits kind of in the middle of the green goes all in the water in the back. Like 16 started to get crispy crispy by the end of that. Yeah, I think the like 16 to like that was a good to put from Ludwig. Like that could have easily easily been a you know 10 footer coming back and and then yeah 17. How much did you clear the water by? Plenty. No sweat. Okay, it was just a perfect shot. It was just a no no chant like I was taking some stats and stuff and I was talking about
balls in the water on 17 and like before he even stepped up I'm like oh well here's the total for the day. Yeah, it's impossible. He can't possibly hit it in the water. Yeah, it was just a just textbook, you know, three paces on or whatever stop, stop pin eye. Yeah, and then good stuff.
I left after his drive on 18. I was there on the T first drive on 18. Oh, three. But a charity blanket was over.
Yeah, he hit a solid shot in there to what maybe 25 feet or something and blew it like eight feet past. Kind of like almost lost. Almost got worse and then missed the comebacker and yes, it's a it's a three shot lead over Michael Thorbjornson. A couple jacks guys, a couple TPC guys, you know, a couple jacks in the middle of native sun, the Viruto Galleries. Exactly. It is something written some transcripts and stuff Thorbjornson, not a player. I know well, but it sounds like
I mean, love makes only a year older than him, you know, as both old as we like to joke that love big is and as young as Thorbjornson seems, they're actually a year apart and play a bunch of rounds together down there and both probably move there like about the same time I would imagine or love because it's been there very long, right? And both number ones on PGA Thorbjorn, like back to back years, graduates of PGA Thorbjornson, already massive dub for that, you know,
project it having to be one two in the players going to the final round is, uh, this is a total
βfor the build there. I think my biggest takeaway was just how unbored what a big is the whole time. Hey,β
hey, he went to the he also might be really, really, really hydrated. He went to the seven board of body visits. I don't know. He's probably just trying to kill time. It's just low out there. Although that was better. I mean, it was better for him today than it was the last two days planted at do some Thursday Friday, but I can check in his phone or something. Kind of a question for you guys. In the three-ish years, we've been watching Ludwig, you know, play golf on television
and hearing him talk and all the questions he's been at. What is the most unlikable thing? Ludwig has ever done in three years. Like the one, like, I got bitchy on this one. I, you know, he kind of hacked it the ground after this bad shot. Like, and he was kind of bitching about the, like, I cannot think of one. One single thing he's ever done once to make him less like, you know, make him unlikable in some way. I think the mattest I've ever been in was like,
something in the water on a level. It got stuck. Yeah. Like, that one time saw somebody hit that bad shot. He didn't, he didn't act or do anything. No, he just hit a bad shot. He can't be out of that. That's a very good point. I know. I said earlier, I was like, I was tried so hard to think of something. I'm like, nah, I think he's just just super cool, man. I can think of one offline shot where he, like, recoil and got a little angry. Like, like, we all do. But like, that's,
I'm not even positive.
some reason, you know, something he's done did not just be like the most easy going and like
βa bull guy out there. I struggle with that. Even on for today, like he drove it, you know, bad drive,β
hacks it out. It's like sort of fively bad wedge into four green goes way long and then, and then, and then, you know, blows a pup by and that was a really big comeback or for Bowie. Because I think if he makes double there on four with five six seven coming up, it's like, okay, that's, that's a different, different round of golf that you're looking at. He's made, he's made a couple good Bowie saves in the last couple days. Like, when he's had some 15 yesterday, when it goes,
hey, wire, it's like, he could give two back. He only ever gives the one back. I will give a shout to NBC. Like, they, they zoomed in on, they got player Caddy combo. Like, maybe the only one
they got to the day in four fairway. And it was like 86 yards and a lot of, I know, I don't,
to the point I was just making, like, love it. He plays so fast. He makes decisions quickly, and he goes quickly. And they were kind of, he, in Scotland, we're kind of talking for longer than him. We're used to seeing him over and over a shot. And he pulled gap wedge from 86 yards. And I get, they were trying to hit a shot with less spin to have it rip less because of how I'll slope it wasn't in the front of that green and blowing it that far past. One, I was just like,
God, I was so much more engaged in that shot, knowing he's like, I heard him say, let's go gap wedge. He made the decision. It wasn't scoffering, you know, kind of making the decision. It was all on him. And I was like, okay, let's see if you can take enough spin off this or take the distance off and he couldn't do it. I was like, God, give me more of that because that brought me, you know, that was one of the best moments of the day, just because they brought us on to the ground.
Yeah, and then how was NBC overall, uh, say, say that for later, I got, I got a little segment I'd like to get to later on. Uh, yeah, the question's been answered, uh,
βLudwig is going to be playing with Michael Thorough, Bjornson tomorrow, which I think is a certifiedβ
badass pairing. That is a, uh, you know, you know, players always say, give me a chance on the
back nine on Sunday. I would have taken it. You give me this, give me this pairing on Monday, morning of this week. I would have got a big hell, yeah, for me. I think 67 for Thorough, Bjornson today vaulting up the leaderboard after an opening 74, uh, notably in the, you know, kind of got the bad side of the draw, uh, fought his way back the rest of the week. Ball struck his face off today, leader in Stroke's Gain approach. So I would you see from, uh, from Thorough, Bjornson.
Uh, the eagle on 11 was, was spectacular. That got him to five under for the day. Very similar though, to when he made eagle on 15 at Waste Management this year, he gave it right back immediately on the next hole. He's got to get. We got to get a little, he has a big, big moment tomorrow. We need him to calm down, uh, when he gets to to the next hole. I, we talked a little bit about him last night. I, we're still in the process of, of, of, of figuring this guy out, but we know the
ceiling is really, really high. And, uh, I love his golf swing. I actually got lunch with him a couple weeks ago, just, uh, you know, he's one of the younger guys here in Jackson. I'm not done nearly as good of a job of, of getting to know some of the, uh, some of the younger guys out there and it's cool. You saw it. It was elevator back there. I could try to get some guys to get to know guys before they show up on the pod and things like that. And I, it was, I was very reminded of how, uh, you know,
how young he is, like, you know, we're just getting lunch in the middle of the day. And he, he orders just a massive burger and just downs it like no problem. And I'd be like, if I had a burger in the middle of the day, now I would be, I'd be having two and a half hour nap after this, but these three days, man. They don't have to think about things like this at all. But, uh, it's just a
βvery, supremely confident player. And I mean, that in the best way of like, of the way he was talkingβ
about his goals and what he wanted to accomplish, it was not, uh, he's precisely not a mule. He's not looking to hang on out here, like he very much believes in his talent. And, uh, you know, we're, we're, I think we're just kind of starting to scratch the surface as to what that actually looks like. Because he checks a lot of boxes. He's longer than, way longer than the average torque rope, it plays, you know, last year is about 12 yards longer than the average guy out there. He's
about 10 right now. And he's 5% more accurate. So far this season than the average torque rope, like a really, really, really good combo. You don't have to hit it amazingly close with the proge play, which has just been kind of just okay and his puddings just been okay this year. But, uh, I, I, I wouldn't be surprised if he, I think Ludwig's going to win, but I wouldn't like be jaw drop Craig Perk surprised if he goes out and shoots a nice 68 tomorrow in Ludwig has a bad day and he wins.
That, that would not be an outrageous conclusion for tomorrow. But massive spot for him. I cannot wait to watch and find out. So they should have a benchmark for like average torque player and then mule as far as like. He hits it. Yeah, it's a 7% straighter than the average mule. He's
10 yards longer than average, but it's not going to, yeah, longer than the av...
right. Yeah, yeah, data golf guys are out there this week. Like, you know, we can, I'll flip that tomorrow. You know what, speaking of a data, I pulled a little tail of the tape. Can I, can I, can I pull some, let's go category by category. Not that it's a two horse race, but it is a fun final pairing. So I'm going to go through this, uh, strokes gained off the T this week. These are,
βthese are stats for this week and remember, I look at tail of the tape. Me too. I haven't done itβ
in a while. I remember Thor Bjornson had that opening around 74. So keep that, keep that in mind.
But, uh, strokes gained off the T. Ludwig this week, third Thor Bjornson fourth. Got it, got it,
hit it good off the T at T. But you saw guys, we know that driving distance, Ludwig first, Thor Bjornson 37. Ludwig is, well, he also is like not scared to hit driver everywhere, other players probably aren't this week. Uh, total fairways. Ludwig's hit 27 Thor's hit 29. Stroke's gained approach. Ludwig third Thor 21st. He was first today, like I mentioned. Greens hit Ludwig's hit 40 Thor Bjornson's hit 36. Stroke's gained around the green.
Ludwig is 31st Thor Bjornson's 19th. Chipped it a little bit better than Ludwig. Although at that same, at that same point, scrambling Ludwig's got an up and down 12 out of 14 times. Thor Bjornson 12 out of 18 times. Stroke's gained putting Ludwig is beating him in there to 10th. And Thor Bjornson is 21st. And then of course in the vaulted feet of puts made. I had to pull that one for big Randy. Ludwig has made 224 feet of puts. Thor Bjornson 291 feet of puts.
But their games are like what I'm just even pulling that that scatter plot that Cody's got up on the board.
βI mean, it's much more similar than I would have thought. I think I've to your point. I've alwaysβ
maybe very much a me problem, but I think I've always looked at Thor Bjornson as a little more
bomb and gougy than he actually is. And instead, it's a little bit more like, you know, a longer, you know, a longer, not a straight version of Scotty, right? Or it's like, no, it's a long any it's a straight. It's when the irons are on and the putters on, that's when he contends. And that's just more of what's going on this week. Yeah. Seems like it like the floor is a little bit lower. I mean, really like looking at Thor Bjornson season, if he plays just with a little bit
more maturity on 16 and 17 at waste management. Yeah. He's explaining that by a shot or two. Which again, like I know they're different architects. They're different places in the country, but like man, there's a lot of similarities between two golf courses too. Like it does, it would have made sense as a longer, shot, flyer type of type of pick. So congratulations, anybody who figured
βthat out on Wednesday instead of today. T.C. What did the golf course bring them in person today?β
The kind of golf you saw out there. What was your takeaway from it? It was solid, unspectacular on television. It wasn't, you know, like windy and crazy firm, like carnage that would have helped, but it looked very, very good and rounding into form. Yeah, I think I guess two things. I guess, like from a golf course, then from an atmosphere perspective, atmosphere wise, it's a little flatter than I was expecting it to be. Like yesterday felt more like Saturday than Saturday that
almost. It's a little subdued and the crowds kind of cleared out around 330 or 4. But as far as the golf course goes, a lot of good holocations today. I thought the,
I thought that Thor did a really good job. Like second time they've put it right on 16,
thus far, that was a great holocation on 9, a great one on 4. It's just a lot of spots where even the one on 2, T.C. Like all the way to jammed all the way back where guys kept getting their cutting, you know, hand in the cookie jar and that was downwind too. It was great. Yeah. So the wind was pretty steady all day. It didn't really gust or like there were a few gusts kind of more exposed over there, like 11, 12, 13, that little area over there. But otherwise, you know, just kind of
steady out of the east north east all day. I thought the, yeah, like I thought the holocations were cool because it was like a total heat check kind of thing. Like it wasn't, you couldn't really get that much momentum going. It was like there was little booby traps everywhere. If you got too, too frisky with something, it was, there were a couple of pins like on slopes or closer to slopes than then, you know, it would otherwise, like you would, like I don't expect that much slope on those
greens are definitely firm and back up. It seems like some of the brimuda may be kind of popping back out, like I was talking a couple of guys and they were sending green is kind of the grains there if you look forward a little bit. So yeah, we heard of Austin Kaiser and Zander talking about landing one down grain into the 12th green from from 59 yards where he was. They wanted to land it between 49 and 52 yards because it's down grain from there. Like, and you can see the shine
on it as well. But yeah, the the pins in particular on five and 14 today were like NBC did a good job
Of covering that of, you know, where Cam Young was putting from, we'll talk a...
here in a second, but like from the right side kind of center of the green was quite easy to put
βfrom, like where Ludwig was coming up with the 13 footer was a ton of slope in that green. We sawβ
JT put three put on that line as well. We saw a bunch of guys three putting on 14, anybody that got above the hole on 14 just had a near impossible put and we're just not used to seeing that on the PGA tour. We've, you know, talked to a ton of guys. I mean, that's basically, I don't know if it's a written or unwritten rule. They won't put a pin on a slope above 2% on the PGA tour. And man, it is such a better test of control of your golf ball where you're leaving it one and how good
you are controlling the ball off the putter face when you put the pin on some slopes like we saw today. It just it adds a lot of variety and a lot of that stuff. I mean, even 18 was, I don't know, maybe I'll go a little questionable pin. But it gave us a little variety there at the end, love they had two great shots, but then proceeded to three put that one because it was a pin they hadn't used in 16 years they said. But all these tiny little things, you know, that we, we complain about
and talk about a ton on a week to week basis, they just take a little bit more seriously or seemingly take more seriously this week. And it just adds up to four days of really good golf viewing and uncertainty of like, dude, you took a bathroom break during JT's sixth hole today, like units out on a lot of fun. And that's everywhere on this golf course. And it's, it's what makes this tournament better than the other PGA tour events, even if we're not going to do the major things.
No, we are. I'm so glad you're segueing me perfectly into this. No, this is great. I put together list of things to try to round up a lot of what you touched on here. And we're going to play a game. I don't know this is going to be stupid or good, but the game is called more major or less major. Okay. And I'm just going to list off a bunch of, a bunch of things that have happened. And you tell me if they've made the week more like a major or if they've made the week less like a major. Okay.
First one we're going to start is, what agenda with this? Is there a, I don't know, you're playing just, no, we're just exploring. Just exploring. I don't know if you've been there. Nope. Because you, you tell me, Ludwig taking a three-shot lead into the final round, just making it make this feel like more like a major, less like a major. Well, I could get a little dig in here and say, last because he hasn't, he has a lot of major.
He's never been in this bottom of the major. It makes it feel interesting. It's interesting.
βHe's an outstanding player that makes it feel more like a major. I think definitely more.β
All right. You touched on it. Cam, young, making a double on the last hole on Saturday to fall out of the final group, more like a major, less like a major. Honestly, less like a major, because a lot of the majors we've had lately, like don't have great 18 to holes. And there's not really a double lurking out there. I think there was only four birdies at 18 or something today. It was a monster finisher. I'd say more, because there's been a bunch of major,
well, a bunch of cam, young majors where we can say what ifs on. You probably just cost us 10 minutes of time, but you can't get an add-in, because you just pissed Cody off. I'm sure. Okay. First time or Michael Thorbjornson playing in the final group. What's this? Like, I don't think that feels fluke at all. It feels like a good enough young player. I agree. You could see that happening at a PGA, USO. You know, offsetting. Not more or less.
I agree. Okay. A bunch of people in the crowd dress like Will Ferrell's character for me. I'm doing the devilish show at all. More like a major, less like a major. It should be more like the PGA or less like a real major is what this should be.
βI'm gonna abstain on that. Did you, did you have to see this, T.C., that they did a great number ofβ
people out there dressed like something I forget as characters. Name. Is it Ronnie Hawkins? But isn't Ronnie Hawkins like the guy played with the band? I got to look into this, but we don't care. Yeah. But a friend of ours was out there kind of shop running this crew and I think it was a tough scene. I just, are these crisis actors, are these paid? Are these sag members? I don't know who these,
I don't know who these people are. Here's what I'll say. We got to take the, take the bad with the
good. There's a lot of good content ideas and things percolating right now. Exactly. And there's going to be some bad stuff. All right. Watch some shit out of this. We got, all right. It's going to happen. Overall, you don't have to watch it when it comes out. And we could just focus on the good stuff. So listen, that's really let it slide. All right. We'll keep going. Only two balls in the water on 17. So I'll say, I'll couch this with, I really, really appreciated them putting the pin back
three days now. They're back right tomorrow, obviously. And then it was back two days. We only got one day of the, you know, normal slog fast on 17 with the front pin. So that's normal though. They only usually do it one of the days. How they always do it? It's usually two. There's usually like one, they didn't last year. There was two, there was, there was two back pins last year. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I've checked previous years. But yeah, there was, it was,
It was, it was back on Saturday last year.
open championship category of like, hey, I can't, you know, you kind of let the conditions dictate.
You, you made an island green and it's, it's got to be playable somewhat when it blows 30 as well. So when it blows like five, yeah, from like one to one, you guys are going to hit the green. Like it just kind of,
βit's, it's, it's, is what it is. All right, T.C. I think you're going to like this one.β
New stories about a 550 pound tuna being brought in from Spain to fill up the $11,000 ticket players club. Are you familiar with this? And does this make it feel more like a major, less like a major? Uh, I feel like they, you know, maybe they would do that at Bergman's or something like that. Is it more, but I don't know if it would, I don't think the story would get out there. That's a good point, you know? Yeah, there's a lot of stories to get out about Bergman's and
stuff written ahead, whatever they're, you have it, this, this feels like a planted store. Someone's in there making content. I mean, I don't know. This one just, it grabbed me. It's made my less like a major alarm bells go off here. It's a, it's the same, it's the same happening at the waste management, the same happened, and at, you know, other tournaments. True. You know? You could, a hard to push $11,000 to take it type of passes at the,
at the travelers. That thing. Kind of fist, that wasn't, it wasn't there. Remember when we got those passes, it looked to us that one year. But one year's here is I'm going to buy some players club passes. It's a total Rob Arnold. All right, CEO interview out of Saturday, more like a major, less like a major. Tough.
Is this roll out for the CEO of Optim or something? Yeah, this was Brian Role, I pop it into the booth on Saturday of, of L players. You know what, Dege, I thought it,
βI, as long as it's not an annual thing, I thought it played. I think it was,β
a, introduce, you know, a big wide audience to, you know, that may not have been tune into the Wednesday press conference that, you know, you're watching the players, they may not keep it up on as much of the news, like, PJ tour under new management, we're changing our structure. He was in and out pretty quick, gave us one little breaking news item. They're going to tear the ropes down on on 18 and let fans walk up the 18 fairway. You know, as, that was going to be my next
week earlier. Oh, my mom. Yeah, my take was that why don't they do that for every hole? Like,
they're the last people to play the first hole, drop those ropes, man, make, make Ludwig and
Thor Bjornson's sweater a little bit more played in that final group. I think that'd be good stuff. But they are dropping the ropes for 18. That was going to be my next bullet point. I don't know if that's more like a major, less like a major, but more like an old school major, maybe. Yeah, I think so. I think that's got to like it. And then the last one was going to be the NBC broadcast today. Did that make it feel more like a major, less like a major? It doesn't feel this similar
βfrom the US open sometimes. Yeah, I think this is actually still better than the US open,β
what they do with that, definitely better than the rider cup, but I, I'm a co-cad. I need a line of coke today. I don't, I don't, I didn't realize how much I needed Gary coke in my life in terms of just making it feel a little bit more elevated and like a big deal. And I was missing
him today and Raj and I just feel like they need a more powerful voice in there.
There was a moment to at the end, it was just like, again, this is really minor, but JT lined up on 17 on the far right of the box, talking about his club choice with his caddy rev, puts his ball down on the grass and then changes his mind, gets a T out and puts it over on the left. And they pointed that out that he did that and I'm like, you got two professional golfers in the club, that's weird. Tell him why I said what happened. You don't need to like say it out loud
that just have to tell me why that is. Like I truly don't know the answer that is he trying to get a little bit more spin, maybe from the other, you know, and teeing it up a little bit as I going to give you a little bit more spin and he's going to try to draw. I didn't I didn't know the answer of why he did that. That was a really cool little color item that it just doesn't seem to ever really add much to what we're seeing other than bones out on the course is so like just on a golf
course that has a ton of consequential stuff going on. He sets the scene on every single shot, really, really well. And you don't even notice it as you're watching it, but it just gives you something to look out for on every single shot and it's extremely added. Yeah. Yeah. So I think totally agree, but it's yeah. I feel like I was yeah. Well, I was going to say speaking of JT, you mentioned very briefly, but he was he was undone by a triple on number six,
which which could have probably been in my more like a major, less like a major, making a triple just on a shot where you got to hit it under a tree off the tee. It looked a little flum mixed like he was trying to flight down a driver or something and it up double crossing it and just pulling it 50 yards left into that lake, tried to then play back to the fairway, hit another tree drop straight down, tried to play up to the green, was blocked out by another tree,
Had to chip out.
gutted it out, greeted it out after that, birdied nine, birdied 11, birdied 16,
βbirdied 17, almost birdied 18, almost a rare birdie, any team would lip out and he got it all the wayβ
back to what eight under five back going into my own, not dead. I probably would have pronounced him dead on six, but he fought back. I heard he almost cleared the lake left of 12. It was rare, yeah, he went way far left on 12. You know, I was thinking, you know, how often we hear like on during a lot of tournaments of like, ah, you know, he should play this safe and just punch this out, just chip it out and it's like not the modern way to play golf at
all. I mean, for the most part, when you get out of position, just hack it up as far as you can or being aggressive usually plays, TBC sawgrass is a place where it might make more sense than anywhere else did just play out to the fairway. I was thinking about that with cam playing the 18th hole of like, he had to take a drop in 200 yards away. You're going to go for the green. So this is the best example, but like, as soon as you make another mistake, how behind the eight ball, you are
of hitting from the moguls and the right rough towards water and a bunker long of that on that shiny of a green, then having with JT on six as well, like taking the drop in the water and you just unlikely are unlikely to pitch outside ways to the fairway, but then you know, clip another tree and up behind another one and all of a sudden you are trying to get up at, you know, with his foreshot, he's trying to leave it short right of the green to hopefully get up and down for double.
It just gets away from you so fast and the whole could not look easier when you hit the middle of that fairway and then you miss and it just the punishments on this course are what makes it
βmakes it so great. There's a Neil, Neil talks about credit card holes sometimes. Like I thinkβ
this course might be like payday loans. It's a tough, tough interest rates out there. Yeah, yeah, it's a kumi can not. It's got some stuff on layaway then T.C. Because it's on Colarna. Came out of great quote by the way, too. Like I've, we didn't really get into his round, but kind of fighting it all day, battle it all the way back to two under on the day and just rinsed one at 18 like Soli was alluding to hit great shot on 17 almost made it. It's quote afterwards.
They said, you know, the shot on 17, get you take us through that. He said, yeah, it was 127. I think I was trying to land it 133. I fatted it. It went to a foot. Just it, it came to the sneaky, sneaky good quote. I think when he, what he wants to be, that was a bummer to see him. See him light a couple strokes on fire coming down the stretch there. But again, much like a lot of the rest of these guys, not out of it quite yet. Yeah, not at all. Talking about 12,
there's playing dead into the wind. They bump the T up today. But even then, like it's just nothing, nothing going on on 12. Guys have made some bad bogeys, but it just feels like you might make a birdie. He might make a par just, it's just connecting 11 and 13. Like it's like, I think tomorrow, they should bump it up to like 275. Like put them on the front T box and just and just put the pin really far left. It was at least interesting T.C. to see, you know, there were nine water balls
today off the T. There were three total in the first two days just because there was more drivers
taking more shots up towards the green. And they need to have it on that same T box tomorrow. They do want, they do have a mix of results from that T. I mean, a lot of like the great drivable force on the P.J. Tour are just one shotters for everybody. Like 15 travelers, everybody goes for that, you know, 10 at Rive, everybody goes for that now. At least, I'm with you that this is not a good whole, but at least it creates a little bit of uncomfortable.
I guess I just don't still don't know why the fairway wouldn't just be right up against the water.
βRight. Of like, yeah, if you want to bail right cool and move that green even close to theβ
water, if you're bail right all you want, now you're playing across the green down towards that water or you try to hit the fairway off the T and risk, you know, risk going in the water off the T. I don't know, that seems a little bit more people are putting it in the water, running the risk and putting it in the water at least one of the days. I don't know what we're doing here. That should be the metric. I fully agree with you. It looks like the pin's going to be back left.
Tomorrow, oh, you just have the same producer here. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. T.C. won't talk about Xander a little bit. Yeah, it's a stunk Xander was in the final group with Ludwig, of course, 37, 37, 74.
Today, for a guy that looked like he was in complete control of his golf ball. The first two days,
led the field of the stroke's gained a approach on the first day. He was the third on the second day. He was 60 seconds today. Just just not a good, not a good ball striking day from from the X man.
What was that?
It's sort of on one. He just he spun a like zero spin control with his wedge or, you know, iron into one.
He had a really, really poor chip behind two. Or, you know, if you're short of two goes long, you know, same thing on four, like that spin control. He was in those deep mogul, like grass bunkers, left of 15, which I want to see more of those around the course. That's such a sick bar challenge, especially with the rough gets it's like so high like this. I mean, he was at the bottom of one of them. They're like four, four, like four and a half feet deep.
βLike it could have been a lot worse, honestly. Like that round looked like a 76 or a 77.β
He get a slippery put on 13 that if it doesn't sneak in, the side door is going 25 feet past it.
That's so dope. But it's just it just didn't didn't look comfortable all day. He, you know, like
really bad drive on on nine, just kind of a spinny roof of the right. And he's just so tentative over the ball and so slow right now. It's, it's like it seems to be getting worse. It definitely got worse as the round went along. The tow shank on 10 is going to haunt and they did a great job of zooming in on this and getting the shot of where that ball actually shanked off of, that was, that was special. I told you guys, dinner wasn't going to win. He has
made me sweat it last night. Come on. Come on. Not worried about it. He did have the blow buys on. And he, he got blow buy. He's still driving it pretty good. I know. Crazy. Again, we documented earlier this week. I don't know anything about the actual golf swings. I don't know what to look for. But I, I really, it's still like how he's got to slot it and like how his swing actually worked. Looks right now. Even if it didn't come out great today,
I'm, I'm kind of buy and zander in the medium term. Like, over the next couple of months, like,
I'm not going to dismiss him as a major championship threat over the first couple of majors that
you're totally agree. But I also see things like, again, I think Porter had this in his newsletter, but like Austin out there with a tape measure measuring the distance between his feet of the driver grades, I'm like, ah, okay, I've had whiffs of that, man. That's not a fun way to play golf. I don't think we need to, I don't think Scotty's got the tape measure out there. You might have his trade-a-gate work it out as great, but I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know
βthat's what you should be thinking about. I'm live from, they were, they were saying because he'sβ
hitting it so good right now. They wanted to get the exact measurements of what that was. It's like what people got a TPI. They get the motion, I've hit the great, man. I got to get the motion cap out there. Yeah. That's a producer's telling me that's a Chris Komo thing to be, to be measuring that. But it was, I'm still, I'm, I'm buying zander for the medium term for the next couple of months. Well, what else do you buy in? It was not, it was a bad day, but you can make the day a good day
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connection. Is it Norwegian or Icelandic? That is a great question. I'm going to have to check on that. I do like men in a lobby for him to be on the European Ryder Cup team, but I clicked into Hovelins, Scandinavia, particularly Norway, and Denmark. I clicked into Hovelins stats this week. Hovelins number one and trucks gained around the green. But she was pretty jarring. That's a triumphant. I love 60 seconds off the tee. T.C.I was fired up today. I out of nowhere, and I talk to Solie about this,
βHovelin got into the top five of this tournament, and I think we saw two of his golf shots allβ
day. It was embarrassing. I don't know if I talked to you guys, Tom Roy. Yeah, but I'm a weird one. Made five birdies today. Birdied two, birdied six, birdied 11, and then birdied 16, 17 to to make it interesting. Get to eight under, also five back going into tomorrow. Like you said,
T.
holocations for tomorrow. Yes, we do. I love to see it. It's good. All right, one. What do we got?
One all the way back to back left back left. I'm just looking for some interesting ones for East people listening. East people like you could get it's front left on three or just front on three, and that that little slow short left has been two, three, four. That's a birdie run right there. Does there, those are all all accessible five extra accessible five's kind of guarded by those two poem trees and the short right six is accessible seven. There's a little bit of a slope there,
βright down to the right. I think yeah eight, eight's back. Eight's pretty accessible. I kind ofβ
what you want. Yeah, and then nine is you're going to have to put some spin on your ball. Yeah,
that's that's a little scary. Nine would be front left for the audio only listeners. Yeah,
it's got eleven. Okay, the traditional back right location on eleven. Eleven rules. That holds just so good as it gets, man. Is there kind of little easy or what it's been been down with? That's the whole thing. Like guys are hitting mid irons in some spots. So that I think that's the thing. This wind makes the power fives for the most part easier. Yeah, it makes everything else harder. Yeah, and then yeah, for like 14 really tough back left there. It's a creator fives.
You know, I think. Crazy. No, it was a little more middle for us. We made part. I was done big deal. That's right. Well, that's right. You hit it back there. Yeah. All the way back on 18. Love. That's the that's the old school players on days. It maybe got a little a little too cheeky, a little too easy when it was up front left for all those years. But that went all the way back back back on 18 is like coming coming get it guys. What if we what if we showed up tomorrow and there's a new T-box
βwaiting for us on 18. Have you had the dream? That's what it was. Sorry. It was not roll out wasβ
going to announce that today. Roll up said that he's announcement about the 18th whole tomorrow. I was like, oh my god, oh my god, I'm going to put the tee up on the hill. I'm going to put the hill. Oh, man. Hey, actually, I had to note, Cody, while I'm setting this up, can you? Can you search for the artist? He's he's unfortunately passed away but Christo. You're just Christo. Are you guys familiar with Christo? I don't think so. Okay. I'm familiar with where we're going here,
but I'm so Christo. So number six, I was I was explaining this to a couple of guys today. Number six, you got all those great palm trees that that Neil loves. I love they're they're awesome. I think that they should do an art installation. Number six, one of these years, where they put up a bunch like these drapes between the trees and then there's some trees that have drapes on them and some not. It would be one of the most provocative things, but you're totally like you straight up. If you
missed that fairway left and you missed the fairway right, you can't see the hole. Like you can't see the green. Like you drape this canyon here. Yeah. I see where you're going. I love it. It's kind of how it's played for JT today. Then they would get TIO though. Man, you could even do a translucent right or you could, you know, or like, you got an effective. You could, yeah, make it, make it be deceptive. So, you know, your view it then it makes it look like the greens actually at 40 yards to the
left. Yeah. Well, because I was thinking about it too, you've got the, the other thing you could do, like you've got the, the tree there, you know, off the tee, where you go, like you've got to keep it
low. You could do something where they, they just basically put a big drape in front of the green,
where you got to go over it, you got to go high. So it's, it's, it's testing your trajectory skills. Where you guys out on the tree on six? It's sick of the season. Awesome. I think it rules. It's such a non-factor still. Like, I was breaking it, maybe driver. The other day on it and it was close-ish to hitting it, but he was clearly not even trying to flight the ball down. Like, I'm not even convinced
βyou have to flight the ball down. Like, yeah, if you hit like five iron, it might be a problem.β
Maybe, but I don't think like anyone launching a driver. Like, yeah, if you hit, maybe the left where it starts to bend down, maybe, but it's not that low. It's a 412-yard part four that has some decent width. And like, it's just like, I don't know, it's kind of being tongue and cheek about this on the, on the slack today, but it's like, man, if you're not down with what they're doing on six, better be down with the rollback, right? Because it's like,
if you, they got to do something, man. Like, this is it's, it's, it's fascinating and pro golf to see him try to, you know, put up some 3D, 3D hazards. I could not, could not be more in on that.
I think it's, I think it's that or I would hide the shit out of my three woul...
No, I'm sure. I just, I think as much as it's a non-factor solid, like, I also don't think
it's a non-factor, like, in people's heads. Sure. I mean, people are on me. I think about it,
βwhich is so cool. It's great. Well, then you have to freeze up by the green too. Those are evenβ
better. Yeah. They know they're launch angles so well, though. You know, and you could do the pretty easy calculation of, like, I would have to dummy mark my whatever club for it to actually hit this branch. I, I, I genuinely think about it. Look at it. Scoring average for this whole, for the sixth hole in 2024 before that tree went in 3.954 for the week. And so far this week, scoring average 4.006. So, like, it's barely moved at a tenth of a, of a stroke. And there's
wind in different condition factors in there as well. I know, but it's, it's not moved too much.
Something that I'd love to see, like, when they redo the place in 2028,
I would love to see them mess with the scale of certain holes. Like, like, like, all right, 17 green looks exactly the same. It's just 20% small or no. Or like, like, add more of those, those leaning trees up by the green and put them eight yards closer together than they currently are. And just, you, and you just start, you start messing with, with kind of at the margins there. And you just make it 15, 20% harder. Michael Brennan, my, Michael Brennan on number six today,
hit one 330 yards, he had 80 yards in the green. Like, it is, it is, it is very possible to, uh, to play the golf bowl with that tree. I'm going to see what I'm curious that they have the, the radar data on that one. We don't even know if that was a driver from Michael Brennan. Right.
Scott Scott, he hit one 328, he had 83 yards, heager hit one up there 325. They were kind of in a
class of their own, but yeah, I mean, you had somebody lay, oh, Rory laid all the way back, he hit a 240 off the tee, he had 170 in mid-Birdy. It's just sick. There's a, like, if you, if you look at, like, the, the kind of scatter plot, there's just a big range of where guys made birdie from, which is awesome. You know, I love it. It just means people are hitting different clubs and figure out different ways to do it. Like, that's kind of the whole, the point.
We got Ricky and Jordan playing together. I thought we might get Ricky Jordan and Rory are all tied. I thought we might get a Rory's beef, but it's Nico Eachibre and Rory and Ricky and Jordan are back to back. But I noticed this today, just kind of clicking through where, again, not, I don't want to divert us into a distance debate of and to say, like, this is TPC saw grass tipped out, like they're using the back box for every single, like, whole, like 53 out 54 times. So far,
this week, they've used the back T box, like, they moved up 12. That's half of the back T. Correct. They moved up 12. That's in that's it. Like, they don't have, you know, all the little tweaks they've done, they don't have, you know, more distance to pull that. They could make a couple of holes longer if they wanted to, but I'm saying, there's still just no optionality. Like, they have to play it as far
βback as possible to give these guys the ultimate test that they can. And I think a future world whereβ
you have some flexibility and T's would be, would be better for for championships like this. Well, can I, can I do a little celebration of the fourth hole? Here. I know a hole that I think all of us, all of us absolutely love. And I think, I've just pulled the numbers from it today because you talked about it earlier, saw it, but Ludwig missed the fairway there. And that was the, one of the moments where I like, I leaned in closest to the TV,
which is just like, oh, hell yeah. Like, what's about to happen? And I know it makes the test, I don't know. It just makes the test very objective, right? Like, are you going to hit the fairway? Are you not going to hit the fairway? But at least it's something. At least it is like, at least, you can see the consequence and you have context. And you know why the hole is playing the way that it is. And there's still like, there's still plenty of width. I think to find the fairway.
You know, not even that, that fairway is angled a little bit. So it is very deceptive as to what your actual line is going to be. And your line's going to be different based depending on what club you pull. And there's actual decisions to be made as to what you're hitting there. A lot of holes like that can become, let's hit driver. We're going to hit it down there. Even if it gets
βin the rough, we're okay. And that is absolutely not one. So I think it's one of the best holesβ
in the state of Florida. I totally agree. It's becoming one of my favorite holes on the PGA tour. And it played 374 yards today, comically short for a par four on the PGA tour. Played to a stroke average of 4.055, almost dead, even. 17 birdies, 38 pares, 15 bogies, and three doubles. The field played it four over par today. Solly, there's the angle that you're talking about if you were watching it on the screen. I wanted to ask you guys, what's like a, if you could have your way
on the PGA tour on a hole like this, what would be the driving accuracy percentage that you would want to see? Like what would be like a number that you're like, this many players should hit the
Fairway.
wild. This is 370 yard hole. I would say 55%. Yeah. I don't, I don't know. I want to say 58. But I have no idea
what. 56. So you guys are good. Really in the ballpark, because the reason I pointed out is like, because that is the test. Like everybody is standing on that T-box, saying like, I have to hit this fairway. And so I just think it's interesting with like a decent amount of width with a short hole when hitting the fairway is the priority for the best players in the world, uh, 56% of them,
β41 on 73 hit the fairway, which I think is, and if you see there, there's everybody that made aβ
birdie today and what do you notice about those balls? Let's go to let's pull everybody that made a bogey. What do you notice about those balls? Right? It is every one of them is, you know, everybody who made a birdie's in the fairway, pretty much everybody who made a bogey is in the
rough, which is just awesome. And so if you look at those 41 people, 41 on 73, they hit the fairway,
almost 80% of them hit the green. It's not a hard hole from the fairway. But if you look at the 32 people that missed the fairway, four of them hit the green. And a lot of that's because like a lot of guys are laying up. A lot of guys are, you know, not even like they know how hard it is and they know how much the rough has turned up. But it just is, we saw it with Ludwig laying up from, how often is Ludwig laying up from 133 yards on a par four? You know, and it's just, it's just a
brilliantly designed hole. And I think it's a example of one, you know, we bag on like super duper thick rough. And I know this is not a one or a zero on that regard. But it's a great instance, I think, of super duper thick rough, making a hole that much better and helping like the brilliance of it, kind of shine through thick rough on a good design can help accentuate the features of it, thick rough on a week or lazy design can just make up for a very dull four-day farmer's insurance
βopen. That's what happens. Totally agree. But it just, yeah, that was kind of hit me as I'm watchingβ
today. It's like every shot on debts on four. I'm just like, I'm just truly invested on, is this going to hit the fairway or not? Because I'm going to pump it again. It's like you, you're looking for things to, to grab you in the broadcast. It's like when we get there tomorrow, that's going to be a moment. There's no bathroom break on four. Yeah. I'll take a bathroom break on five. I don't like, you know, I kind of five for better pound. You're going to pound it either way.
And you hit either hit a great driver. You don't force kind of like, you're not going to pound it either way. And you really better fucking hit the fairway. Like that's a really, really, really good stat. Yeah, speaking of Tory, we've got two guys in the final group, both love Tory. What
are they going to be? You want to talk about Thorby Orson? You guys did a little stuff at the first
timers press conference. Yeah, I don't want to. You kind of want to air out a couple of those guys put a bony finger right? Your chest, he's he had some of there. Their favorite horse is quail hollow, bolt is wrong. I actually respect Thorby Orson from St. Bay Hill because it's hard. Most
βguys don't like it. So I think that's I guess respect for that one. But guys guys, we're talkingβ
about Bay Hill. We still haven't even got through like who is left in the top five of these. We've got on a leaderboard. Sure. I need to reclaim going down the leaderboard after Neil's buckle last night. That's a very good call. But the rest that's in there that we haven't mentioned so far, Brian Harmon, little Corey Conner's and of course Matt Fitzpatrick. I don't know where he won't start at Solie. Yeah, I do. Matt Fitzpatrick, not a great course history at TPC saw
grass, but we all know he writes down a lot of stuff. It gets a lot of information and tracks a lot of his stats and has been able to build on that and is now T4 heading into the final round. One of the ways he does build on those stats is he uses arcos, which is the official game tracker of the PGA tour and honestly probably the smartest platform in golf. It's not just tracking your stats. It's going to help you own the choices that you make on the golf course with confidence is why we
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want to own your choices out there and play with more confidence. This is it. arcos golf.com ARCCOS GOLF.com code NLU15 gets you 15% off again. Arcos golf.com code NLU15 for 15% off. I haven't played golf lately because the wrist injury and I'm missing doing this. I'm missing tracking on my stuff. This thing made me want to go play more golf. It's the highest compliment I can play to it. We had like a 65 degree day, 62 degree day. Last week I'm charging my arcos. I'm like,
"Oh my God, it's about to happen." It's going to just sleep for like two straight days now.
βYou have to do a club? No, I didn't. That's what I'm saying. I need to.β
I need to. I got three things on the back of that ad read actually. For tour of five. First of all. Molinari. Own in your stuff. Tell you who wasn't owned in his stuff. Keegan. He can't stop. He can't stop thinking about it. His his quotes of just. We'd love to ask. I still just just shook. Yeah. And then two arcos needs to add a like there's the you know, you versus a scratch. You versus a tour player. That's
me down. And then I was the essay third. Oh, fits. Like I've always wondered why
fits hasn't played well here. Because A like hard times is figure it course in the world. That's obviously P tie. And then B like it's just yeah, you just good driver the golf ball and very analytical and disciplined and all of that. I've never figured out why this place hasn't
βsuited him. It should have been you know, like you should be pinching up against the final groupβ
there. It's not for that double on 18. I was going to say he was. He got his 10 on there with the birdie at 16 and 17 and then just gave him both back on on 18 with some with some slot, which is unfortunate. I'm kind of blent. He is hit or miss at TPC sawgrass. He was T9 and in 2021 and finished
fifth and 2024, but also missed cuts in 22 23 and 25. So T.C. You want to do a little kind of a joint
down the leaderboard? You know, you're flying around. You kind of just watch in the final group today. So you know, if you have, if you need help, you shout for it, brother. Brian Harmon. I just T4. I want to just say you see a lot from him. Oh, yeah, he didn't watch him. I watched him play two holes before a lot of teetoff. It just like I thought he was going to hit it in the right pond on one because it's
squirrely little T shot. He's 12th and strokes hand off the T this week. Oh, a little Brian Harmon. He's just like the little engine that could. Is that there might be a little bit of Ludwig. He can probably hit driver where other guys are not hitting driver type of stuff in that stat maybe. Yeah. It's just like me going out like I find TPC sawgrass easier from the 1600 RT's than the 6400 RT's. Yeah, like Corey Conner's like we just mark you down for like a
71 or 72 tomorrow and write you a check for like six hundred k's. We're good here. Like we're good man. Like I know you're going to miss about four pods inside of eight to 12 feet that that would, you know, maybe get you into the mix and you're just going to go away very, very quietly. He is leading the field and strokes into approach. He's ball striking it per per usual. There was a there was a line on I think it was golf central this morning and I'm a massive Oberholzer guy.
So I don't mean to say this the wrong way, but he said something about Corey Conner's, you know, when he gets a smell of that lead, he usually plays pretty well. I was like, I don't see. I got it. I don't know about that. Which I think actually like I see what he was going for because I don't think he wins, but he does, he doesn't like just hangs around. It just hangs around.
βSo I think maybe that's what our guy A.O. was going for, but it definitely caught on the back of my,β
you know, the back of my mind there. I feel for those guys that got to make storylines for sure. All hundred plus of these dudes. 100%. Which like is there like a Tommy Roy? Is he obligated like contractually required to show every guy in the field? Because like I heard there was a Lee Hodges drive. It was like the multiple Lee. I saw more Lee Hodges shots at A.T.C. than I did of Hoveland and Granny was playing with Bridgeman, who was on a heater, but it was very confusing.
Note on the weekend, no, but they always do that Thursday Friday, like, you k...
show you if you're in the field kind of thing, but it's like the US Open. I show it all. Big shot, Bob. Round of the day. Nine birdies today.
βYou know, love to see it. Love to see it. He's playing with more I think, right?β
Yeah, he's driving it well. He's putting it well. Iron play leaves a little bit to be desired, but players is a good one. Good one too, where it's like, you know, you go 65, 68 on the weekend.
It's like, oh, you're going to make about a million, a million dollars. It's a good time to do that.
Yeah, if you're right now, if you are T10, you're projected to make $581,000 this week. If you are, you got to go all the way to T43 before you don't make 100 grand. Gosh, I saw his. What did he do today? I didn't fill me in there. What did he do? He was out there, what did you do? Yeah, just kind of wants to he got off. He was super comfortable and, you know,
false triggered as he, as he's wanted to do. He, yeah, total vindication. He'll bet me on him being top 10 and strokes again to approach by the other week. He's back up in the, he was forth today and that was seventh in the field overall. Strucks again to approach.
Watch this face, like Neil should have cashed that one out after Friday.
Bridgman. I thought you, I thought you got a little, I think Bridgman's a really, really fine young player. The fact that he did, as we're talking about him in the, in the do.
βThat's what you guys did. Sorry. I thought that was pretty reckless.β
Well, I just added to three people. All right. And this was my, this was my thing. All right. You all got way too reckless way too quick with it. Neil's trying to make it a fraternity rush thing and like make it a vote thing. And now way too reckless. The, the, the, the dude thing is like, I got almost a semi permanent label. The three are just Scotty Rory and rom. Right now. Yes. Got in gotter and gotter and you have you to bring it out. He's not. He's not a dude.
My only point was going to be the just in an absence of dudes with there's no dudes guarding the door. Maybe Bridgman comes in and just kicks down the door, winning two signature event. Like, he looked fucking good on the front nine TC. I thought he was going to, they wobbled on 10. He wobbled on 11, you know, an upset and par, but I thought he was going to get it back on the rails. That was going to be his little, his little storm cell that he had to get through. And he just, yeah, he did
and he lost the potter and down the stretch to six, he's 66, then she looks gained approaching the dream. I know. 66. Yeah. Yeah. He had to have some some pretty big minuses. Like, he just, yeah, you know, that that's obviously going to be a blend of a lot of things. But I'm guessing he had some
lost half-shot or more. Yeah. And it's his T10. He goes up to first in the FedEx club. He's playing
so good man. I was pulling some of those stats and seven of you guys earlier that the Stroke's gained over the last three months is like, what did I say? It was Scotty Jake Nap,
βBridgman, and then Rory, I think. I've been the best players in the world. It's been a veryβ
real thing and it just feels like to it too early, I guess. Sorry, sorry. Who are the three dudes? Rory Scotty and Rom. If Ludwig wins tomorrow, I think Ludwig's a dude because I think he's going to win Augusta. Okay. I think he wins tomorrow in Augusta. I think we're looking definitely do that. The point is, the point is that like even, so look at somebody like Ben Griffin last year who had an unbelievable year. Like I would have still been hesitant to make him a dude. And like now
he's just kind of lending back it. He's still a very good player, but he's kind of bending, blending back in with the crowd. Bridgman's kind of so far this year's Ben Griffin. And I hate that, but I think you're right. Right? Like you're going to have an unbelievable year. People are marked with town. Are you like a dude? Are you a dude that like we're going to think about with this era 10 years later? It was the point of that conversation. I didn't give it out to
Bryson right now because I kind of don't know which direction Bryson's trending and he doesn't have the same floor that Rom has. And even if he wasn't there, what have you got? He looks like a plan to drop right now. And look, I'm going to make a rule when I when I call you a dude, I'm not allowed to remove you for a year. Like you got to stay there for years. I got to be confident for a year. What's the answer? He was a dude. He was a dude. He was a dude. He's like your dude
diligence. It's a different path than dude diligence. But he got credit. Yeah, if you can't pass a physically, you're you're you're like, uh, in a sure. I mean, you're able to take it away. You play on a little status on the dude list for a while. And then yeah, I could I can decide how many starts. I mean, he starts as you have a laugh to take it. To get full fill is major better. I got three stars left that I've got a big decision on it. Like it didn't help the day, I
thought it was a party doctor. If we look 10 years back, where there are more dudes and
There are right now was total genesis of that conversation.
Okay. Oh, yes. Yes. That's a lot of great day from him. That's great. He from him. I don't know how he's how he's how he's in the top test. He's four is so high. He's just driving like shit. He's something loud horse. That's crazy. All right. We got Bill Mal, Blue Mal. Yeah, I love it. All right, earlier this week, he's guys thought that Blue Mal is Chinese. I'd just like to call him the chairman. Yeah, that's all to me. I don't know. I didn't watch the SKO close enough.
It was not familiar with his game. The sport was lit last year. Yeah. He's got to cap me on the bag.
Yeah, I love it. I saw him pop up in the in the first time. Really, you guys did some great content.
He's great. I was from you guys. Great. I like big fan of Bill Mal. So involved for a second there, T.C. And he just punted it away. He really sat behind the traffic for 10 minutes this morning. Did you get to meet? You got to meet the weekend today? I did. Yeah. Actually, I was sitting on the first T and you know, like near the first T and you got the honorary observers and I'm talking to I hope that the first T and answer and and the weekend comes up and he just introduces himself
to literally everybody in like the general vicinity. There's like 20 people. I am real. I am real. I like just what a what a delightful guy he was. That is real. He's as soon as for those
βdays. You're not know who the weekend is, but just. Honestly, round of the day for me,β
like I saw some play three holes. Sue Darjeel, Mara. Mara. Yeah. Must credit. Must credit the
preview pod. We're tipping this one big T.C. He's a clean card club, 66. He does it again tomorrow. He'll probably triple his career earnings one day. Yeah, just like he's got speed. He's got he's like impressive. Like I want to see this guy on on the president's cup team. He's the anti like he's easy and tithesis of the he's boring Canadian golfers that have that have sprung up on the president's cup team the last few years. Like, you know, I don't think I don't know if he's got a bunch of
personality or these gregarious or anything like that, but his game speaks for itself. He's got he's got he's got the minerals. So I've been impressed with this guy all year. He's he's mid 60s in the FedEx cup and career as a rookie, which is really tough to do like to come out and like not get that many starts and be 66 after there's been a few signature events now. So all good. Joseph's got speed man. He's got a lot a lot of speed. I want to watch a couple of holes. He's 11 and a half yards longer
than average on tour and he'd pop one out there. They had to track man up when he's playing the fourth hole. The practice runner this week, just three easy three would 170 one ball speed with three would on on four. Yeah, let's say Joseph's story from from the Friday had a great little essay about about him and his backstory and his parents and how he got in the game and it was that was
βgreat on the Friday Instagram, I think. Guys, I didn't see anything from Keegan or Brooks today.β
A little disappointed in Mav. Yeah, Mav and Henley both kind of felt like they, you know, could have could have helped their dude dude cases. You know, there's still a ways off that I could have at least gotten interesting and kind of missing missing people on this weekend, which kind of stinks. We got a bunch of line up guys and I line it getting crushed. Got to mention Scotty shooting 68. Good little press session. Was it? It was 677. I just stay and correct it. Only two guys beat
them today. Yeah, Matt. Good question. Good press session afterwards. He sees these work and hard on his attitude proud of how he how he reacted. Yeah, genuinely said he was proud of how he acted this week, even on days when he didn't have it, which I thought was, you know, just funny considering our conversation. But it was just, I don't know. We've said this a couple times, but it bears repeating for all the Scotty's boring, Scotty's boring, Scotty's boring. When you get him with a
good question, you get him talking about the right stuff. He's like, he's brilliant and it's really fun to listen to how he approaches, just, I don't know, try to get little peaks of into his mentality.
I think it's always funny. You know, I feel like every time he gets asked a question, it's always
βlike, oh, you know, what a disappointment this week, huh? You know, T25 must be, you must be furious.β
He just like never takes the bait on that stuff. He never, uh, for better words, he's almost psychopathic about how he never admits anything's wrong. You know, like, people like, oh, you know, you're grinding on the range and the range, did you find it? He's like, well, that was like
Implied that I lost it.
about, like, his expectations, like, my expectations, like, I'm telling you are not to win. I don't care
about that. I'm just, I'm truly like every shot. Did I give my best that every shot? And most of them, yeah, I did. I didn't really have it. But I, you know, I put myself in position. I did everything I could. I'm like, oh, that's, that's so hard to do and, uh, really good stuff. So, you know, to this presser afterwards, or as comments, I've heard too, like, they was asked if, well, what he's going to do between now and, and the masters, he said, undecided. Yeah,
that was interesting. I don't know. I don't know how that times up with him, uh, the expecting debut number two as well. I don't know what the actual, uh, due date of that one would be. Yeah. But it's worth mentioning that in terms of what we are expecting for him from the masters. And if we end up with a page or storyline at Augusta, which, true, I, I'm surprised I'm going to report a ask about that. I don't know if that's the kosher thing that I would think it would be
as it relates to your profession. But yeah. Probably got her a T-20, you know, I got, they got a couple more. Got her a T-26, 68 today. Are they playing together more? Scotty playing with more. Thank you to that. Well, you're doing that. We got Ox-Shade, Min-Woo, also T-26. Jason, Scotty has Scotty Matt. Scotty Matt. He's Mitchell. So I'm out there. I was expecting a better day from him, but continues to just be the best dress guy out there. And like it's not even
remotely close. Ethan Tommy tomorrow. T-C. Oh, I have to go. I have to go early and follow that one. Tommy, I didn't have it. I will say I was, I watched him groups T off of one, he had by far the most
βproper trajectory in light on his drive. That's good. I truly think that he's a trulyβ
thing. Neil was right last night of like, you know, he's dumping on a little bit. He made a triple on 10, which is less than ideal. He blew one miles right on 10. I think Tommy's just Biden is he's he's trying to charge the batteries right now. He's going to, he's going to, he's going to, he's got Chinacock and Berkdale. Those are two two places that are exceptional for him, summer. He's, uh, he's also putting like shit T-C, which is he, which is concerning. Yeah. I mean, I guess the good
news bad news, you know, is like his, he's driving it already. He's, he's hidden his iron. He's doing the other Tommy Fleet with things, uh, fairly well, but yeah, just putting a bismalie. Was this 64th out of 73 right now? Um, something to, something to watch. Uh, what else we, uh, we got
JT post and, you know, came back from that first round 76. He's, I think we're hitting the bottom of the
βwell. Yeah, come on. I think we want to, you want to throw any shots at the Kumi can I? Yeah.β
Uh, DFL. Uh, yeah. Well, he made a cut. He's not made a cut. He's DFL. He guys made a cut. I was going to say, just a, you know, just a big hell. Yeah, for George Speed 76 today, close, close. Um, that was frustrating. But what are you going to do? Uh, he also tripled down. Yeah, a lot of that, I could have had a solid heat of over by where you did on off the tee. Hey, careful man. All right. It's been really guys. That's, uh, thank you, TC. You threw a lot of names there.
And, uh, I want to know one thing. It's very conversational. It was. How far back,
far back is too far back. Hmm. Seven hundred, two far back. Okay, solid. As always, this question is
always who far back is too far back as well. Big Bob, great round today. You're out. Sorry, booking really flight. Um, I think, uh, there's just not a lot of guys that scare me all that much. I think minus 10 is too far back. Just game over. Okay. Well done. You just think game over. I'm going to say eight. I'm going to say eight too far back, solid or Cody, rather. I think it's going to be Ludwig, Thorbjord Center came young. And as I say that out loud, I'm like, it's going to be
Ludwig. It is, it is, but like, I, I think a half under JT or even Zander could shoot 65 tomorrow. Like, the pit, there's, there's birdie opportunities tomorrow. Like, yeah. Ludwig's going to have to make some birdie still tomorrow. I think. Um, I also, I also think. He's also like lending on the,
βthe power files. Yeah. The only thing I'll say is like, we, don't forget that we've been talkingβ
all week about how much, this is a different test of proper test. All of those things. Like, the 65 tomorrow is not the same as 65 the last, like, 10 years. Like, I do think that's, it's harder golf course right now. Right. I mean, it's like, it just doesn't take much to get off. It'd make a bogey, you know, kill one of those runs. But I mean, Robert McTire shot 65 today.
Like, it's, it's out there.
like, I just, they're not, it's not set up tomorrow for carnage. They're, they're, they're, they're
setting up for some birds and some, and some, and some roars tomorrow. He's not got earlier tomorrow. They won 40 last group. I imagine that is something to do with there's some potential weather coming in Sunday night and Monday does not look good. So leaving a window for if there is a playoff, you got to get it in Sunday night. Yeah. Monday looks, looks rough. Actually tomorrow looks better than it did. Yeah. Say 12 hours ago. It was showers in the morning and then likely thunderstorms
in the afternoon. Now it's saying mostly sunny. And then a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon highs in the lower 80s. We got a big cold front rolling in on Tuesday, too. So they
got this thing in on time. Yeah. But yeah, yeah, I hope they don't set it up.
βGive me a key or soft and everything too too much to make it super easy to chase tomorrow. I thinkβ
that'd be fair to what they don't think they will. I don't think they will. After he got the bad bad end of the draw. I think they're going to stay stay consistent. I think they've, they like, I mean, but I need more bravery out of you than that with Ludwig. Come on. Like, 18 got the bad end of the draw, too. If Ludwig was three back, you would say literally the exact office you'd say. I hope they set it up for birdies and don't just make it so, you know, Brian Harman
could take their hard birdies out there. I just don't want to see, you know, Ripper McGoo's everywhere and double Ripper McGoo's. Like, I was talking to Aaron Price. He was like, yeah, there was Ripper McGoo. There was a double, like a double Ripper on one hole of Paul's spinning and then really catching the grip and then, and then accelerating the spin front. Not sure that's scientifically
βchecks out, but I think that probably moves us somewhere closer to wrapping. I think so, too.β
It's speaking of Ripper TC. I know that the final round of the live Singapore is getting underway here. 17 minutes. Gotta get you, get you out here to go watch Ripper G.C. and keep us posted on Centosa. You're going to be doing the Rhino dance or whatever that is, Rhino jump to Rhino jump. I mean, I may have to do that. We know TC's in the bucket with Ludwig. Solihody got. I love things in one for sure. That's a big of you. Cody, I think Ludwig's going to win as well,
but if it's not him, I think it's camion. Why not? That would be a blast. You're blocking it. You're pandering to Cody. Well, my opponent's piece is going to be slow, so I know Cody. I'm trying to give Cody a positive note to end up. By the way, guys, we didn't touch on it. Not a lighthearted subject, but not kind of a weird morning as far as delayed the gates opening until nine delayed hospitality opening until 11. There was a shooting at the Walgreens down the street
from TPC sawgrass, and then I guess the guy came onto property and stole a BMW and they found him 30 or 40 miles away up in Calahin. But yeah, I was pretty close day one A. I could hear all
βthe, I think that happened about 10 per day last night. I could hear, I was just laying on the couch,β
decompressing, I could hear all the sirens going by, I mean, you know, for a good hour and the helicopter out there and all that stuff. And then heard also that there was a drunk guy trying to drive his car onto the golf course in the late night early morning hours last night. I got overshadowed by the other stuff, but all that to say, I think it note, like talking to some of the St. John's County Sheriff guys out there today, like at no point was there any sort of like they attract this guy up north
to closer to the Georgia border and at no point was it like, you know, 5 a.m. and they're like, oh, this guy's still at the TPC sawgrass, like they figured out he was no longer on property. Yeah, the statement was kind of kind of vague, but it probably for a reason, like if, you know, you put the statement out and you say that there was somebody loose on the property. Then the confusion and panic can set in. And it, you know, it was, it seemed to be a candle as well as a positive
could up. But that's extremely, extremely rare for the area. I mean, I don't think, I was the first
first of like murder in St. John's County. And like, I don't think there was a single one last year. I don't think there was either. It was, yeah, very extremely unfortunate. But, yeah, yeah, it came across came in contact with multiple P. J. Torre employees and stole a radio and dropped the radio at some point. It was just a very, very specific way. The reason they, you know, still at it shut down until nine crime scene stuff. Sure. I mean, it's a fairly
Danger to the public.
that we were like, not, not productive. What's that? I would agree with that, T.C.
βWell, guys on that note, I think we, I think we wrap it, huh? Get ready for a thrillingβ
final round tomorrow. I guess the question is, do you think Ludwig wins by more than two? Like, is it a coronation coming down the stretch? Do you think it is? How about you start? I think it is. I think it is. I do not think so. I think it's going to be a little more stressful
tomorrow than, then, then maybe it felt at times today. I think you went too much.
Actually, too. Yeah. Too many, too many gators out there can jump up and just bite you and keep things interesting. And Leslie goes out and earned it. I mean, I would love to see him go and win by seven and just leave no doubt. But that's not really how it usually goes at this tournament.
βSo we will see. I think it's going to be, I think he wins by, I think he wins by one or two.β
It's a great, great final round golf course. We see a lot of good, good action and, you know,
there are golf courses that, you know, a three shot lead going in the final round. I would not be nearly as excited to watch what's going to happen as I am this one because there's just as we've seen last three days of ton of mystery on every single shot. So, great, great week. Well, guys, were you, were you rapid? Can I ask everyone to hit that subscribe? What? Yes. Please hit that subscribe button, give it a thumbs up. And for the love of God,
please stop doubling the 18th hole. That's all I ask. Yeah, my team. Like, but I got, I got an open came young ticket. I would not hate if he came back and wanted to have that big, that'd be quite nice. Can't if you're listening, you know, you're thinking about whether or not the way to borrow, just leave good, go ahead, go ahead and let me check. I already texted a bit daughter. So he knows, he knows. I just thought you'd want to be aware.
All right. Well, guys, thanks for another good one, Cody. Thanks, Cody. Thanks for running the ones and twos. Shout out to our friends at title as high noon and arcos. See everybody back tomorrow.
βI think five wide tomorrow for the, um, for the final round show. Uh, and I can't wait to,β
hopefully, yeah, hopefully, crown our, our beautiful Scandinavian boy tomorrow. I would love nothing more. Guys tomorrow's Josh Elliott Day. Right. That's right. Uh, yeah, perhaps not, you know, everything will change, perhaps nothing will change. We will, we'll find out tomorrow, guys. Cheers. Crack on. But what I want to do is not to get a lot of students. The master by tag, laptop, the soft handy internet. So master is really great. Ah, you can say, you can't get the
back. Yeah, you're a player. But you don't trust me. Yeah, it's not. Yeah, it's just a challenge. Make the whole thing like this. And when you then work, you'll have to catch up. That's right. Save, like this. Hold it, then go back. Now, you're going to get a new one. Let's go. Let's go.


