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>> The right club, I beat a right club today. [MUSIC] >> I think that's better than most.
βHow about it, and it's better than most, better than most.β
[MUSIC] >> Expect anything different. [MUSIC] >> Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the no-laying of a podcast presented by our friends at Titleist.
My name is DJ. We got a full house of players championship appreciators today. To break down a world where Cameron Young is your players champion. What a day, what a week.
Can't wait to get into it first and foremost with my guy.
Nobody's had a bigger week than him, even Cameron Young. First he pronounced O's right. Kim Young was his pick to win this week before the tournaments. Neal Schuster Neal, how we do in man. Can you keep it rolling for another 18 holes here?
>> People are asking how does he do it? I'm O's in with swag right now. I'm feeling fantastic, Randy, how are you? >> I'm feeling great Neal, hurt my favorite team's name called for the NCAA tournament, so I'm just driving with you right now.
>> Of course he is. >> Electric. >> Of course, Sol and Berger is here. Hello, Solie. >> Hey, not only did Neal call it, he told us again on Friday night.
Excuse me, like don't count, don't count out Cameron Young. He threw in another reminder. And he had some actual nuggets on Cameron Young to win this week as well. I mean, just have a week. And of course, last, but not least, fresh off getting some serious steps out there at
βTPC's saw grass today, T.C., how are we feeling, my man?β
>> We're feeling tired, I think I've done about 30,000 steps last three days. And it seems that people are out for blood in the comments. I mean, people are just vicious stuff. Even more vicious than the crowds out of saw grass, calling the Jingo isn't out there. So, they have pitchforks out, T.C., they want your head, T.C., how did it come to this?
You can't understand how this climate got so charged. >> You know, who's been, who's been using all these nuggets? >> You can. >> Revved all these people up. It's crazy.
>> Sol's first vegan wasn't, you know, running down, opening up the ropes behind that group. >> Oh, come on. Keegan would have benched came young, come on. >> We got a lot to get into, Solie, but before we do.
We got to hear from, yeah, we're going to break down all the birdies and bogies, but got
βa cool equipment nugget for you guys on Cameron Young.β
Of course, you know, we always, always talk about the importance of getting fit, how big
of a role the golf ball plays in it. The order in which you get fit also matters. Titles always says fit the golf ball to the irons and then fit the top end of the bag to the ball. So, a really good example here, Kim's been super dialed in with the ProVi1X prototype
golf ball that he moved to last summer, which doubted in his flight, his spin with his irons, and it was the perfect recipe for his approach play, but he had to work with the tour team to make some adjustments off the tee to optimize his carry distance. Last week at Bay Hill, he moved to an 11 degree GT3 driver, lofted down to 10.25 in the D1 setting, which helped raise his launch without jacking up the spin, preceded it.
The longest drive in the shot link era history, I'd venture to say there were no drives pre shot link that went 375 yards on the 18th hole as well, early in season he also moved into the higher launching GT1-3 tour fairway wood and GT120 degree hybrid, so completely different set up than what he's playing in 2025. All good to show, go get fit.
You never know what you're going to end up in, up the experts' dial you in and trust the
process. And, yeah, head to title.com to find a fitting near you. Just check your ego at the door, trust the numbers, Cameron Young's playing 11 degree driver in a high launch fairway high hybrid, like that might be different than what he would have thought he would be in.
If he can play it, you can play it and go to title.com to find a fitting near you. It's the same exact set up as TC. That's right, that's right. Guys around the globe, around the world of golf, Cameron Young, you're winter at the players by one over Matt Spitzpatrick, Bryson wins in a playoff over Richard T. Lee over
out of the league, lifts Singapore, TC's Ripper GC also got pivoted in the team contest there. And Hannah Green, you're winter at the Aussie Women's Open down an Adelaide as well. Of course, we're going to start with Cameron Young, his second PGA tour victory after last year's Windham Championship final round 68, one off the round of the day.
Birdie on 17 was a electric, the T shot on 18, you mentioned solid, but Neil,...
start with you, man, what's going through the mind, how are we feeling, what do you love about Cameron Young?
βWell, I mean, he's got loud traits, it's a term Randy throws around, I think baseballβ
related, not always in control, but the talent has always been undeniable.
The swing is unique, it's like loud traits with a quiet guy, so he just kind of doesn't say much. But then he does a press conference after the round is just really, really thoughtful. So I've always been intrigued with Cameron Young. And this was a statement when for him, and it's not easy, like you think about the adventure
on nine, you think about what he did on 16, if we could just harness some of this, you know, some of this oomph, like, and then he's kind of getting himself out of jail, though, the last, I'd say, what, six, 12 months with the putter, and so, you know, but the, these kind of all over the ballpark, and he didn't really take the reins, I think the decisive shot for me today was 16 when he had that pride egg in the bunker, and to get that out,
βreally good splash out and to put there, I think that settled them down, and then, you know,β
obviously the shot on 17 is like the, you know, the one you're going to see on the replays. But I almost feel like him getting out of jail on 16 is what freedom up to do what he did on 17. But I mean, for most of the front nine, like nobody really wanted this thing, it was just kind of, it was getting a little sleepy there until Ludwig vaporized himself on 11, and we
are going to get to that. And then he stepped up, and then he stepped up, he, he felt like he battled like he kind of got a lot of things on 13, and, yeah, it's just really impressive to see him go out and get it, but he, he said, I felt like he stepped on the gas at the end, and it didn't feel like anybody was really stepping on the gas throughout the day, I guess is the point
I made a couple things from his press conference, if anybody missed it, he, first of all,
talked about how great he drove it last week, and how, you know, he, he was a little out of sorts with, you know, off the tee this week and till that back nine, when it finally clicked, I, I loved Neil, I know you, you had to write this in your notebook, too. I loved his, him go through his process on 18T, he was talking about his two swing thoughts, that he had, he's the first thing I needed to do is just stay completely committed to my
line, the second thing that went through my head was just telling myself, I'm about to hit the best shot of my life, and somebody, somebody asked him like, oh, do you like tell yourself that all the time, he's like, no, it's like the first time, he's like, I don't know why, he's like,
I've never really been in that situation where I'm like, you know, tied for the lead on the last
hole, he's like, you know, the other other time I won, I was way behind, and he's like, this, I don't know if that just popped in my head, I don't think I've ever thought that before, I just, yeah, just stepped up, I loved it. Yeah, and the last thing I'll say is like, it's always fulfilling to watch somebody fulfill big time potential. It's like, in real time, it's like we just watched the guy step up and do it, and he didn't, it kind of in a statement way. So I don't know,
βit was, yeah, it was a really fun end of the day. I don't know, I think that's right, I think the,β
yeah, like it's like seeing it happen before you're very eyes. And I think on the heels, too, I think cams even more interesting because he finished with that weird double yesterday. Yeah. And he seemed really unbothered and unfost by it. Like he was just laying with his family on the grass next to the media center last night after around three. And he, like, he had just doubled and seemingly cost himself, you're both a spot in the final pairing, as well as just, you know,
being what? He was four back or five back going into the day today. And, and yeah, and he was just really unbothered by it, unburdened. It seems like. And then, yeah, like I was, I ejected finally from Ludwig's group on, they were on 16T and I was like, all right, I'm going to go up to 16 green and I got you ejected him. Oh, we, yeah, we both ejected. It was like goose and maverick. And then scoffee was, what's there with the students? They called them in the pond. He's got a suspect. Yeah,
I'm a helicopter. That was bad. But no, I was, I was standing right there for, I was sitting right there, like right behind cam for that, that wedge into 17. And I mean, the, the wind was, was rip in like 20, 22 miles an hour straight downwind. And that, that flag, like that, that doesn't even look like it's on land right there. And I mean, like the, the amount of like just how much he covered that ball in the amount of spin and commitment that that shot took. Like that was truly do or die.
There was no, uh, because I think if it lands in that bunker with the way that it was coming in, like it's probably plugging as well. And then the drive on 18 was just insane. All while, you know,
Fits is like, like, like, cam just pushed his chips all the way in on both of...
and wanted all. It was incredible. And then it's such a good rear approach, too. Yeah, like that shot
and put on 17 are career defining. Yes. I mean, that, that, I will view the rest of Cameron Young's career differently based on that specific moment, taking on that line in that moment, hitting it there. And we've seen cam have that put like nine feet seven inches, I think it was in major championships,
βlike a put you need to make if you're going to potentially win one of these things and it doesn'tβ
ever go in. And like since last August, those have all gone in and I was confident he was going to make that. And just to see him absolutely shut the door on one of these and a massive, massive, massive moment, it was, uh, I was, that was one of the most exciting, I'm getting caught up in the recent sea of it, but like one of the most exciting golf tournaments I've watched in recent memory. It was awesome. So I don't think, I don't think, I don't know how to get in caught up at all. Like it
felt like, like, I think, did you were there for Ricky winning at all and pushing his chips in there, but like, that was one of the best career four golf shots I've ever seen in person before, like, like hands down. And then just to, I think, like Cody and Neil, you guys would have been over the moon seeing how Cam was treated by the crowds. Like, there's just, like, they were, they were all for him and it wasn't just because he's an American or whatever, like there was a
genuine, the juice, appreciate. He's got swag, man. He's just got white confidence. I mean, he, he's, he's, he's wearing blowbikes and I'm like, oh, those were bad ones. I mean, they kind of are blowbikes. Like, but it's, it's almost like, and he's got the necklaces on on my man. I mean, it's like, I wish I could pull that look off. You know, he's just kept, he's got straight up swag and he just kind of feels like he's not trying very hard. You know,
he just doesn't, like, he has a bit of a, I don't give a fuck attitude, which I, I think people are drawn to that, you know, and then he's got loud traits, Randy. That helps. You know, like, he's to shoot out of the ball. Yeah, he does. He does. I, I, enough, not much to add here, except for what is, what a fun player. Just, like, you guys said, just, just a really nice viewing experience today, yesterday, even for that matter, going back this whole week. Like, one of the more enjoyable
βplayers, championships, I can remember. Well, I think the, the best way to tackle today,β
because there was a lot of shit that happened. I just kind of started taking notes as the shit I find out about as the shit was happening. Well, TC, let's fill you in. We're going to do a little, we're just going to kind of do a little play by play, and we'll stop for D tours along the way. If we need to, to dive into something guys. So, of course, let me get a bird, Ludwig Oberg enters the final round with a three shot lead over his playing partner, Michael Thorby Ornson, the burrito gallery,
TC, a couple of Jacksonville native sons out there. No, both recently moved to Jacksonville area play at TPC sawgrass that made me a lot of this, which was great going into it. Both of them
birdie the par five second with TC hot on their heels out there, watching, watching the golf. Thorby Ornson
quickly ejected, summarily ejected after he drove it in the rough. On number four and dumped the ensuing wedge into the water, he would go on to make an eight. Ludwig also bogey there, just a
βjust a tough scene. TC, that obviously feels like a stop point there. What did we miss from on theβ
ground during that whole segment? Yeah, Ludwig got pretty lucky off the T there. He drove one left. Yeah, but it was like mashed down rough and kind of up on top of the hill. Was that crap? Was that a crowning? Oh, maybe a little bit such a bad shot that he hit off the T. Yeah, wasn't good. That one's had his number all week. He did the opposite thing yesterday. He kind of hit his spinny one right yesterday after T there. And then actually hit a pretty good shot up onto the green from there.
I don't know. Watching guys, I mean, I had to do his hit the middle of the green there that feeds down. I felt like, you know, he missed his target. He should have been kind of went over the flag. I felt like it should have been just wasn't a whole lot of chance to stop it off the green from
where he was. He needs hit a better chip there, basically. That was the issue.
But yeah, I mean, Thor Bjornson just like he missed the shorty. I thought he made triple. We were already up on the T on the next T and they're like, oh, he missed the shorty to for, you know, for a triple. So yeah, nothing really sticks out there. It was just, we talked about it at Nazim on the on the pod the last few nights of just like how much for rules. You guys did a great job breaking it down last night that for is it's awesome. And just the stats on missing left or
right, just being in the rough there and your screwed, basically. It's, it's a great golf hole. What was just because I don't think we're going to circle back to him. What was the Thor Bjornson vibe after that? I mean, that's kind of a tough spot to be. And then I didn't
He bogey, he bogey the next one or he bogey dig a couple, a couple more down.
when we got to like 11 12. Yeah, he had a really good up and down on one. Like he had a pretty
squarely drive on one up the right. And it was pretty obvious right from the start. Like he made, he made Bernie on two, but it was pretty obvious right from the start that he just doesn't
βhave multiple speeds. Like there's not a whole lot of pitch mixes, sawing and, you know, I thinkβ
he's just throwing a lot of four seamers. And I'd say he's a DSI, TC. No, I don't think he's BSI, I think he's just kind of a throw or not a pitcher. Might be like the miss. And people are going to catch up to 103, man, if it's not moving. I'd say whose game reminds me of a little bit Dustin Johnson. I was saying it. And there's outfit, too. You know, he's got the monochrome all blue with the tail and right ahead. I'm like, I've seen that guy before. I mean, he's got, he's got loads
of game. I just think he just needs a little bit more seasoning. Yeah, as well. Well, I think between that and then he, you know, he was, he was really struggling there 11 and 12 as well. Like the group just didn't have anything going. He, like, I give him credit. He made five Berties today. Like he wasn't just trying to hang on for your life. He just won the six seven shots. I didn't see that. That's it. Double 17. Double 13. Well, after that, Ludwig settled in a little bit, makes five
bars in a row and takes a two shot lead at the turn over Bob McIntyre. Math, it's Patrick who
started his day, Bertying three of the first four, just coming out guns blazing. That's when we
get our first came young, charge, starting to mount Bertie on 10 to get within two and then of course, things finally got interesting. This is the snoozey, the snoozey part, Neil and then things finally got interesting on 11, Ludwig wipes one into the middle of the pond. There. A middle to, like, it wasn't close. Was it close? Was it close? T.C. You know, your statement there, I guess. Yeah, I think like, looking back, I think Ludwig on, on nine. The fact that he didn't birdie nine, that was when
I started to get a little concerned. I'm like, oh, okay, that's he had a really good second shot in there. Wasn't like, I think he was trying to go along. Like wasn't going to mess with that. They all run. But like Fits got into that short grass and Ludwig ran just off into the long stuff, hit a decent ship. But it was like, you know, 15 footer just didn't make a whole out of those 10 to 15 footers.
The first 10 holes or so. And then yeah, kind of 11, great spot. And yeah, just an awful, awful,
awful, awful golf swing. Um, which is so crazy juxtaposing that against yesterday's four iron into 11, you know, to converting the eagle. And that shot on 11 was such a, it felt like a sneeze, because he'd been kind of on autopilot all day. Like, again, hit like the shot, the drive on four, okay, like, not a good shot. But like, didn't look horrible. It was just like, whoa, that was so out of character. What do you do in man? Like you just kind of a DJ, like I said, which is all of a sudden now I'm
βleaning forward. I'm like, God, Ludwig's just not going to go backwards. That's what I was thinkingβ
on on 11. I'm like, he's just going to kind of plot along here. And nobody else, I mean, Fits Patrick a little bit up to that point had, had been, you know, had been pressing them. You know, the guy in his group ejected it just felt like Ludwig was going to kind of cruise. Yeah. That's what I was serving. Like, seeing, I was standing on the hill behind 11 because I wanted to see the shot coming into that back pain. And everybody in the crowd was like, oh, man,
that thing is like, really really far, right? Like, that's over the water. And then splash down, we didn't even come close. And then I was thinking, oh my God, we got to get Neil out here to, to tell him where to draw options. Be happy to. Yeah. The hard part about this T.C. was both this shot and the shot we'll talk about next on 12 were like, just, we were in territory,
βwith Ludwig of, hey, that's the only thing you can't do right now. Like, they only think you can'tβ
do. You get this ball on land on both of those holes. And like, I still feel like you're probably going to win this tournament. And they were just catastrophic mistakes, man. And just so, I got I want to say so out of character now. But like, now I'm like, replaying a bunch of stuff and I'm like, do we, do we go too hard in like, crown him too early? Yes. But like, this is going to, this was going to stick with not, like, all of us for a long time. Like, what happens in the end, doing,
come on. Well, let's just, let's get the, let's get the next one there because it goes from bad to worse. Yeah. On on 12. And that's going to point out is really quick. There's so much room left. Like, there's all that short grass left. It's kind of a credit card hole meal, right? Or in Ludwig's case of chlorinal hole, because that's the Swedish company. And then, yeah, and then on 12, there's no upside dating driver there. It's a driver. A lot. And every, it's just like, that was the one where he was
Fucking quick at the top of that swing.
like it was just a straight toe hook. Yeah, just very flippy immediate left, which is, again,
the, the, the right ball, like, and then the heart left ball is like, ah, man, at least if you could take one side out, it's like, you can, you can kind of get your way around, but just to complete opposites, 12 off the T, like, yeah, toe flipper into the water had to drop way back at like 170 hits
βit on the green, bad ship, makes a double. And then at that point, I believe fits his fits hisβ
Bernie 12 and 13 to, to take the outright lead. And it goes, you know, very, very quickly there, Ludwig goes from starting the day three up to finding himself three back as he walks off the 12. See, I think the most frustrating part about Ludwig on 12 was the fact that Thor Bjornson did the exact same thing, like, 15 seconds before he hit it. Like, yeah, I don't know, that's
right over there. I feel like with, you know, is, is that the place? Oh, I'm going to, you know,
just feels like maybe we just hit iron in the fairway. Yeah, but at the same time, the most of the day watching Ludwig on, like, man, I can't even see the other side of the tracer when he hits driver because it's just following the exact line it was on in the way up and he's one of the best drivers in the world. And he was vibing this week. So I, I don't know, I'd be talking at a both sides of my mouth if I could completely question driver there. Just flipping through it. It looks like you hit
βdriver there on Thursday. That was the third holy plate there. I don't, I can't tell if he hit itβ
Friday, only hit it when 266 off that T on Friday. And then T was up on Saturday. But it, yeah, you got your superpower, use it. But yeah, maybe it was feeling a little nervous at that point. Like, give me the biggest club head on the previous whole T.C. and you won't like this part. They did zoom in on his driver when he, uh, they hit off 11 and he was off the toe. I mean, it was, it was, it was way out on the toe. And I'm, and that way right down the middle. I'm
wondering if he's saying, yeah, I'm not, now, uh, and in my drivers couldn't, if I hit off the toe, it's going to fly right down the middle. It just didn't this time. So, yeah, agree with all that Dege, two things I felt on what, what, watch and love the, like, 12 hours. I, I felt, bouncing all this sucks. Like, it just kind of felt bad. Like, you guys said it last night. It's hard to root against love. There's, can't really find anything like not to like. It's like,
guys, maybe you could, uh, guess the cues of being kind of boring. But it's just really elegant polished and it's just like, oh, man, this guy's going to collapse like this. He's going to get tracked down by the guy in the sketches. Like, this sucks, man, because at this point, Camp Young wasn't doing much, right? And I'm like, this kind of blows like what now the last group has
no juice and, uh, but I, uh, the second point I want to make is I want to give Ludwig a ton of credit
walking off 12 green. I mean, it's just kind of like a, you know, like, just dang, man, that's, that's, that's done. But like, he doesn't get high or low. I just don't know how that's humanly possible. The way he is able to manage his emotions. I, I, I admire the hell out of that. He pops a lot of sins, Neil. I admire the hell out of that too. T.C. I was, I was walking with the data golf guys and they were like, yeah, he went from whatever he was, like, now he is a two and a half percent
chance to work T.C. Where they walk around with their computer at the Ryder Cup. He's like, got his laptop and he's like, live updating. I'm like, got this thing. Watch the sausage be made on data golf. You know what I'm saying right there on 13 T right by the saw grass Mary on, like, very sacred spot. The shadow of the saw grass of the T.C. bar at the saw grass Mary. Yeah. And you know, it's playing into the wind, but I see Scotty, you know, flashed to the bones in the
spot or like, seven iron. I was like, he's getting seven iron. That's, that seems like a lot of club. And he hits it and he's like, cut, cut, cut. I was like, man, that thing's going to have to cut, cut and have a hell of a lot of backspin on it to, I mean, he flew at what? So I'll be 180 yards,
βflew 187. I think it was, maybe 24, I forget what the actual number is. But like fits andβ
pride in the group prior, like carved a little seven iron in there. Like it didn't, it looked a heat took something off a seven and then love it. I smashed a seven. I know the wind was a little different, but that was just like, man, I don't think my guys making the best, you know, has the best process going right now. Randy, and that was, that was one too. Like I thought, I thought for a moment that he, that he hold the chip. And that was when, like, that was like
when the, the soul left the body. A little bit of like I'm sitting down and I'm like, all right, 14, 15, I like, I got to go into mourning stages of grief here. And then I got to pull myself out of the weeds doing at this point. The Viking hats were out and forced this week. Did they, did they stick with their guy? Oh, yeah. That was, I mean, the Swedish contingent was strong, both, you know, like, Friday through Sunday. I know Ludwig's mom was in town, one of his buddies. I talked to him
For a little bit from, from as love.
down on the dumps a month ago, like with his game, like he just wasn't playing well. I think he's, think of anything like he's, yeah, he's super bummed, but also just talking to him for a bit after the round. Like it sounds like he's, he's more infused that he's had to top five or top six isn't a row, and like he feels like he's got his game back, because he was pretty, he was pretty,
he was in a funk there, the first, first quarter of the year. Randy, I want to ask, I feel like you're
good at zooming out bottom lining. Some of these, I asked you to put together some grades, and maybe
βwe'll just kind of sprinkle these in as we go, but what, what grade are you giving Ludwig this week?β
Ah, I'm not going to be very nice to him because I thought the weekend was, I mean, did the 63 kilo kilo of momentum Friday? A lot of people are asking me, oh, I'm not going to call Randy. All of it. Jim, here's the basis. Sure, seems like it did. All of it, do you apologize? I'm going to give him a few words. That analogy, but oh, it's a great analogy. I don't think the weekend all grass on the right
or anything you can do. The Saturday was fine, Randy. It was not really very good, TC. That wasn't a
winning Saturday, and definitely was not a winning Sunday. What was the grade? I'm sorry, Misty.
C plus, C plus. I think, listen, hey, through through two days. Yeah, everything looked great. Some positives to take away, but I think we got a big issue on our hands with hitting some very squirrely shots under the gun in the biggest moment. Because you go back to the masters, I don't know what it was to 11. Yeah, Jesus. Same waterfall, right? It's like dang, man. We can't, you know, and they said on the broadcast, like he likes to play quick and he likes to play offense.
And it seems like maybe in these big moments, it's like, can we slow it down a bit? And maybe we can't play as much offense. I hate to say that. That sounds lame to say out loud, but it seems like it's cost him in a couple of big spots. I think, I don't know. I mean, I think he's definitely got some
stuff to work on. I also don't think his game was super super, super tight. The last month or so
coming into this. So you think that you've been telling us, oh my, guys, I said it's a master. I said,
βit's, I think he is going to win the masters. I mean, like three or four, what do you vividly remember?β
You're saying repeatedly that he's back. I think it's not like you were saying that he's getting out of the water. We got to work through some code issues here of hey, there's still some gremlins in there and he's got to keep the mow going. I don't think he's like, he's got to keep the mow going. Yeah, I don't think he's like, he's got to keep the mow going. I just want to call that T.C. He's like, yeah, but saying like he's not all the way there in the past couple of weeks. Like, I didn't see
the water in the water. I didn't see water in the water. He's not coming off like three months of sustained great play. He's he's climbed the mountain to come back and now he's now he needs to polish the shit up. Here. Let me hear. Here's my question with Ludwig. Just the toss is out here. Is I think right now, he's starting to feel after today, starting to feel a little bit poster-childy to me about like, this guy got into the signature events. He does just good enough.
But like, at some point, I got to see my guy winning just going to close it out through and more.
βAnd I think the public sentiment, we have not helped with how much praise and picks that we've madeβ
for Ludwig. But yeah, it's time for him. I think there's a big year now for him. We're going to need to see some stuff, Ludwig. I would counterpoint that to say, I feel like that's the same argument you can make for Cam Young until about an hour and a half ago. Which I do think that's a great juxtaposition because I took him away with you. Where it's like, do this. That his work a year is just top 10 and then all these big ass events and then it took him to a
windom last year to win something. You know, it's like, people get impatient, especially with those two because again, Randy, I'm going to say it loud traits. Yeah. Ludwig has the same thing. It's like such a good looking swing. What's like, how does that guy miss? You know, they're almost held to this higher standard a little bit because of this potential we all see? Well, there's, there's a little bit of a Scotty, you know, when Scotty was quote unquote struggling or couldn't
get it over the line or couldn't win or whatever, like there's a little bit to the Ludwig, you know, what if I, what if I told you that the handsome guy with all the traits also was like a winner is like, well, that's, that's cool. That's not that interesting. Like, what if I told you that the guy that should be winning everything? Just like, can't get it over the line is where I'm like, oh, okay. Now, now, now, now, now, continue to have a good opportunity to watch it. Like, yeah, exactly. You did have a
great background here today too. It was almost frustratingly grounded and like centered, you know,
We're just, you know, seemingly just in a really good mid.
he was very upfront about the shortcomings today and, and yeah, I think he's got to learn how close the deal. Right. I mean, I don't think I know like he's got to learn how close the deal. He's only, he's only 29 months old, a younger than Kim Young. So it's not like they're that far apart as far as age wise,
Kim's 28, but Randy, I also love, he's got a solo second and a solo seventh and his two masters
appearances. Like, he's played, he's played eight majors so far. He needs to get better at the PGA,
βhe's got two cuts there. But I think I'm just thriving these contained ecosystems a little bit.β
I think that this week was good, you know, players would have been really good for the, for the resume, but yeah, I am. I'm very, I'm very, I'm very bullish on him. I'm still like, yes, there's stuff to work on and yes, there are there flaws there, is there, are there some bugs in the software? Yeah, maybe, but I think they're very, very fixable. Like he's, I think his chipping's gotten a lot better. I'm, I would like to see him maybe, maybe play around with a mallet
putter. He's one of the few guys out there working with everybody else. Yeah. But no, I'm bullish. And,
but, you know, I'll apologize to everybody out there. I'm so sorry that, you know, this, this guy, I'm sorry, you ruined it. Yeah. Well, to you see, he did not, did not have a good day on the greens. He was 70th out of 73 in putting, which is tough. That's not where you, where you want to be.
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with a very weird 3-put at 14. Gas that thing buy about 12 feet from kind of that right side of
the green. And so now it's a tie for the first time with cam young. Up top fits punches back with
a birdie at 15 to regain the lead, which was good stuff. Ludwig, it was, his worth mentioning, Bogey at 15 as well, just to seemingly kind of end all of his chains. That one had his number no path, no path to victory after that one T.C. Zander makes it interesting for a minute. Bertie's three of the last four, including the one on 18, I was a hot and bother about him hitting an iron and leaving himself like 190 into that back pin straight down wind, but he made me look
like an idiot by stuff and one in there and making Bertie, and anybody got anything on Zander, kind of just really weird, weird week, good week. Randy wasn't on the list. I don't if you have
βa grade for Zander, but just kind of a strange one. Yeah, I put him in that honestly like a B plus,β
I thought overall it was a good week for Zander. I think Kim being back in the mix and at a big event like this, I thought the finish, as you said, was strong, to quite strong. So I'm, maybe surprisingly for myself, I'm complimentary of Zander. I think Zander's a B plus for shooting himself out of it on Saturday after 74, and then he came back. Final has a lot of, a lot of weight in the grade. Yeah, the more I'm thinking about this, Ludwig, I mean, he flunked the final,
like I'd see plus, start to feel generous. You know, he did really nice the whole semester by the, I mean, he got like a 52 of the final by Randy's metrics. Does he get the, does he grasp the concepts or not? I don't, I don't know. The Miami Red Hawks shouldn't be in the tournament, Randy. It's interesting. We won't go there, T.C. That's your lashing out now, because we'll start flailing T.C. We can't long ways to go tonight. All right, long ways to go.
Well, after after Zander posts his round, Kim tries to make a move on 16 great T shot there on 16 with fits over in the trees, trying to decide how he was going to punch out what he was going to do. Kim pulls that one pretty hot left as well, catches a tree, drops straight down and fried eggs in those nasty, nasty bunkers that are like 50 yards short of 16 great. Just like, maybe one of the, I don't know, one of the coolest bunkers you golf, I think, very underrated spot.
That whole sequence was awesome, though. He had 250 and you could just see his shirt whipping in the wind and you're like, oh, I ain't like that ain't getting there. He said he was waiting for a wind gap to potentially get it to the front, but then you're like, man, I don't know if I love pulling out a fairway wood here to get to the back pin with the firm green, all that water around, you know, your bail left, you can't really get up and down from over there. You just like,
There was a ton of TPC sawgrass stuff going on in that exact moment.
at that point, I was just moving that T back was has been a good thing for, for 16 because it
has made decisions like that very real. And I'll go back to what I said at the beginning, not making that put for birdie on 15 for camp specifically and then that shot on 16. What am I feeling in that moment like, guy, he's just going to like, let it go. He's just not going to do it. He's
βnot going to step up here. And then he, I think he hit a pitching wedge, you know, splashedβ
out that shot from the bunker, just really solid shot, lagged it up there and then goes and stuffs the pin yawed on 17. It was like, oh my god, no, he is going to do it. It was, it was like in that moment. It's like, oh my, he's arrived. He did it. What would you guys think of that pin on 16? Because I feel like the Sunday pin, you know, back in the day, maybe they used this one last
year or two, I'm not sure, but it's always been that kind of front right. I just remember the
Ricky Fowler, you know, Ricky Fowler shot in 15 where he just kind of one step over the bulkhead hits one that kind of rolls down into almost like a little bit of a funnel. That was like a big boy pin on 16 today, especially with the way the wind was going, especially with how firm it was. We saw Robert McIntyre try to, I mean, poor guy got those moguls and kind of just tried to hack one on the green and it was shipping it in the water, which was tough, but I more asked because of
fits like fits laid up to he was farther back than he wanted to be certainly, but usually that shot that third shot into 16 on Sunday, especially is not like crazy difficult, but it was tough to tough to get one close to to that pin. I don't know if you guys liked that one, didn't like that one. So I loved it. I got, I wish I had more hands. I also loved like, let's not get to precious with tradition on all the pins. It's like, okay, sure, there's a, you know, spots for like the Sunday
pin on 17, but like I like seeing them mix up, I feel like they mix it up on 18 this year, at the pin in the way back. I'm sorry. Yeah, yesterday, they made a big deal. Yeah. It's like, like, give me a new look because it's like we're playing at the same course every year. I would like to see different looks to almost mix, mix these guys up a little bit too. Do you feel that way about Augusta? On, like, certain holes I'd like the pin to be in the same spot,
but yeah, I'd like, I'd be cool if they wanted to mix it up. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I'd like to look it up more at Augusta than you might might think. Like, it's not in the, you know, they broke tradition. They went back right on 16 last year. Back down by ready. But, you know, it set up was great. Like, just they had a back, they had a back on that 16th green twice. I think normally they only put it back in that kind of back right once. But in 15 and
16 greens were very, very baked out. Like, like, love the chip into 15, kind of good chip and just didn't even think about getting or whatever. Where, where, where Cam was in that bunker on 16, like, I've made quad from it. Like, that's like, maybe the worst place of the golf. Also, again,
βlike, it is in his own pitchpark. Drop it straight out of that. Yeah. And that's what I was like,β
just a moment for me. I'm like, okay, you, you, you, you rose to the occasion right there, more so than for me, more so there than on 17. Yeah. Oh, Randy, I had this on your, on your, grade sheet. I gave you all pile papers to grade, but just TPC saw grass, the players as a whole. I think it's kind of an interesting one. What do you think this week? I agree with TC. I thought it was a great setup. I give saw grass as a whole. I mean, honestly, it, it kind of is on that A minus line,
like, it's, it's really good. You know, this guy hates giving out his never gets it. Yeah, I,
I think a couple of things. I think, and this ties in a little of the broadcast. So this isn't, like, saw grass as fault necessarily. I think as, like, 17 is good, right? It's a little over done in my opinion, just everything about it, especially like on Sunday, like, we don't need to keep,
βI don't know. I think 17's just a touch over done for my liking. As you guys said, four and 12 areβ
great, kind of shorter, part fours with a lot of strategy. Well, 12. Yeah. Really. These guys hate 12, ready. Sorry. You made this that. Oh, well, I mean, I ended up being it. They can be beautiful today. Yeah, I, I, I really enjoy it. And I can't figure out why guys don't hit just like iron, wedge off the tape, but I know we need to touch on that. Um, I think the tree on six, I think we got to keep lowering it until somebody hits it in competition. And then we found our spot where we
keep it. Well, I would like to see the the tree limb on six come down a little bit, uh, you know,
Piece by piece.
into the limb, though. I love it. I would be down with that. I really like that idea. Um,
didn't even tell you any else hit it one time, but 18, let's, let's pinch, let's pinch 18 a little bit.
βLet's, let's give weird there. Uh, but overall, I think it's a new T. Randy, once they putβ
our new T in above the water, I think it will be better. Although on that note, like I actually think 18 today playing downwind, it's actually harder because guys, like fits, or not hard, but just challenging in a different way. Like, it fits as well. Like with it. Dude, I think it's harder. It hits certain parts of fairway. For sure. I like it. Like he said that afterwards too. It's like
he almost picked up his T because he thought it was like money. And it just the wind kept it straight
didn't draw. And it just, like, it's a really small, effective, effective window. You're trying to hit it in there. Because otherwise, you've got to hit it so left and just be praying there. And then Cam had, I know he hit this unbelievable drive. That was such an awkward shot. It was like 98 yards whipping straight down firm, firm green, like pin in the back. Can't go wrong. Can't go wrong. You know, it's going to have a, yeah, it's just really, really, really hard. I got, uh, this is
kind of TPC saw grass related, but I put together a little, uh, I don't know how we do this. Maybe a little stumped the Schwab. So, do you guys think you could predict which holes had the most water
βballs in order this week? And I think if you make a wrong guess, you're out. Neil, it's yourβ
week. I'm going to give you first first pick, which, which hole had the most water balls this week.
I'm going to say 18. 18 is correct. Good style. 40. I mean, such a hard shot, man. It's, it's, it's going to look like I saw a ton of them. Actually, I saw a style on the broadcast that the thousand Friday. I think the thousand ball had gone on the water. That was good, uh, which was a nice nice. Let's see how deep Neil can go here. All right. So, so 18 has 40 balls in the water. I'll tell you the next one has 31. Okay. I'm trying to make sure I don't just give up on my front nine.
Stay hot. Yeah. I'm going to go 17. 17 is correct. Got it. I'll stick it through the, the, uh, the front nine. Make it try wasn't missing anything. All right. 17 has 31 balls. The next one has 30. Only one less than 17. And I think, yeah, um, because of that massive bunker, I don't think it's 11. Um, I'm going to say, I want to say 14. I'm going to say 16. 16's correct. You got it. Oh my god. This is unprecedented. All right. The next one. Oh,
it's the much less. The next one has 26 balls in the water. Four less than 16. Okay. I'm going to say number four. Good guess. Run is the run is over. Anybody want to make a guess? 12. 12 is correct. TC. Uh, after that, only one less than 12. This one kind of surprised me. 13. No. You're out. Um, five. You're out. All righty twice. Sorry. 11. I'm sorry. 11 is correct. You know you're out. 11 had 25. Next after that was four Neil. After that was seven, uh,
after that was five. After that was nine. I had 12 balls in the water as well as 13 had 12 balls in the water, uh, 14 had nine balls in the water and six only had two balls in the water. Shout out to JT. Uh, there you go. God. Good shit Neil. Well, it's your, it's your, it's your weekend. And also good shit from TPC like to have your 16, 17, 18, just be like 18, 17, 16. Yeah, like yo man, it's it's just going to get harder and harder. Yeah. I just finish. I don't know.
You compare a lot of Florida golf courses can really run together. I do think, and maybe I'm just getting old, but TPC is starting to really separate itself as like, just, it does have an iconic, like, look to it. You know, you, you know, I'm on some text threads with my buddies like, man, this looks so hard. You know, just, it has that. We're talking about it on Thursday. Like some water of the modern art look to it. Like it's just different looking more, more so this year than I felt
in the past, I guess. Was that an overseed soundboard there? overseed no.
βNo, that's a setup. Like that's why we've talked as much as we have in recent years about theβ
soft pillow S TPC saw grass that is not the same as what we just witnessed. Like that's what made
The drama of this tournament like be unsettled until the back nine.
feel really long in the best possible way. And I, I was thinking about this a little bit today, guys.
I'm not here to do the whole major thing, but like this and the Quail Hallow and Valhalla are not in the same category of championship. Not even remotely close. And P.J. has the better field. Like they have the live guys. That's the argument for it. But like this is a really, really, really good championship. And it's more the year point T.C. P.J. is especially on notice. If they're going to elevate into this level, like it is a run of X got a lot of lot of work
to be considered a better tournament than that one. I actually don't think they could get there.
βThen Frisco next year, like they're going to get. So I think that, yeah, it's, it's fucking pouring.β
You're now like we've probably got an inch of rain since since weeks hopped on the show. So we, we timed it up right this year with the tournament. Certainly the, the weather and the conditions cooperated for the most part with the exception of Thursday midday. But I'll just say, yeah, I thought that like, food she was, was bitching about the pin on 18 last night on Instagram. He took to social media to say, oh, poor that whole was that he didn't take to social media. That's
what if we're not doing that man. It's not a major. Right. Like those are into key indicators that were moving in the right direction. I think we need to go back and I don't know what time, like what year we need to go back to. But I just know at least the next, the last decade, we need to go back and evaluate what was a major and what wasn't because some years I think saw grass was a major. It's a retroactive. Yeah. Yeah. I think that'd be great. That'd be great pod.
We should put that like like like Xander's only got a one. He's only got one major. Because Paul Holla wasn't one. And yeah, we, I think we tested this theory last year.
Like, Paul Holla is what lifted the lid off for him. I don't think he can give him the second one.
Because like, he, you know, he had the monkey off his back with the, the not real one. So I think I put Xander back at zero. I think guys think of the, what, what do you think of the saw grass, the, uh, the berms, the, the callers this year. Much better this year. Like they stopped, like they didn't stop as many progress Randy. Progress. I think we need to cut it down, especially in the front, like if you can't control your spin into 17, especially when that pin is up front,
βlike it, you should be rolling off into the water. Like, that is just, maybe we mow it down on theβ
weekend. Sure, what? Why doesn't need to be the same all for it is. That's great. Yeah. Good call. True. That's great. Randy, I didn't see any balls that were ripping hard. They got stopped on any colors of rough this way. I did. I just think I just think without those colors, the, the threat of woo, that ball gets away. It's going. Like, that's one of my favorite things about Augusta, right? If I'm thinking of saw grass is like a real major championship test. Like, man, we should know
early where it's like, woo, that buzzer will not, that's not stopping. That's not stopping. And I feel like the callers around saw grass keep too many balls up for my liking. I think that's it is, but just don't know how you do that with if the wind does get up up like it did in 2022 and you don't
have anything there. Like, it guys are never going to get aboard that great. And I know that's what you want.
I know it's what you're asking for. Great, right? I love the idea of shaving them down after Friday. Just today, like, picking off 18 off it sunrise to the day. It couldn't space everything out enough. Like, they still almost didn't get it in before the weather. The, the pace of play out there. There's just so many spots where for train wrecks and for for bad stuff to happen. And you'll also, I got to just say those were not blowbies today from cameo. Those
were like the kind of thing that you would wear to like, you know, a business function or more like lack of idea. Yeah, they were, yeah, they were foot joys. Like, the blowboys are the, are the
βbad athletic looking, uh, black shoes. I think by definition, it's just like black shoes, you know,β
in an athletic endeavor. I'm specifically worn by like a white guy. It looks like you're going to get blown by. It's kind of like the, that's where it comes from basketball. Like, if he's a blowbiler, you know, like, oh my god, like, and specifically black shoes with like white socks or black shoes with white pants, like a bridgeman. That's a tough look. But camp pulling it off, TC. And I would agree with you that it's a classier pair of blowbies. But by definition, they are blowbies.
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presser afterwards. He was raving like a lunatic about how it was the absolute perfect club.
βI believe his exact quote or not exact quote, but I'm, I'm paraphrasing was basically that shotβ
could have been a lot harder if I had to take something off a gap wedge. And instead it was just a absolute full smoke sandwich. 57 degree. New that it was going to have a ton of spin because he was hitting it hard. New it was going to clear the bunker by one to three yards I believe was his quote. And then after that, it's just kind of let the green do its thing and let it trickle down to the hole and that's exactly what happened. Cody, we haven't heard from you, man. How are you feeling
on the, you know, when he stuffs it in there on 17. Are you running around the house like a like a loon? What are you doing? John, welcome. Thank you for having me here. Yeah, it was very exciting time. I didn't think that that put was going to go in because as Sully has mentioned
before, we have a hater. You've seen these puts that cams had in the past and they always just
kind of rolled right over the edge. And when one actually fell after what happened on 16, you know, partly his own doing probably shouldn't have looked that long iron in there, but horrible lie, getting out of there with the par and then absolutely stuffing it on on 17, rolling in the put. I was, I was going crazy. But we weren't, I was yelling at me. We weren't, but you know, Neil, I was kind of with you there. I was like, oh, man, like fits his pimps stepping and
sketches all over me. Like, my heart is breaking, you know, TCs is in the slack still still thinking like something could potentially happen. Like, I just was like, if there was a moment here, this put was it. And he fucking made it, guys. It was fucking electric. Y'all was yelling at me. That's very, very pumped. Well, Cody at that point, I was not, I was, I was next to 17 green watching cam because the put was for the tournament. That was an absolute Ripper McGoo. I mean, so much,
so much slope in that. That was a tough put. Cody, what's, as best you can sum it up,
βwhy is cam your dude? I think it goes back to, I, I think that when you're trying to findβ
who your favorite golfers are, you try to match a little bit of your game in them. Now, I obviously
don't have the power that cam young does. But he's always just kind of been like the slow grower.
He didn't, you know, win every single junior tournament. He didn't come out and win every single college. But then I can't believe you guys compared cam young's coming on to the PGA tour to Ludwig's because cam young was not at all the prospect that Ludwig is. I would say he had a really, really good rookie season though. That was the comparison I was making. He did. He did make a splash early and it was, and it's very obvious when you watch him. It's like, whoa, that guy has game, like,
because of the power and, you know, the way, basically the way swings it. I think that's the similarity. He has a beautiful golf swing and I think, you know, people say that he's like super boring. That was always the thing with cam young. He came out and was like top 10 and then majors and people are like, oh my goodness, but he shows nothing. And I'm like, well, yeah, like, watch his golf game. And you're like, he's just like really good. And he didn't win yet and it took him a long time to win.
βBut if you look at his career, that's how he's always progressed. And then obviously, we got to spendβ
time with him. And it was off some throughout relationship with Omni and playing golf with him and talking, you know, I was geeking out. And then it turns out that he was geeking out because he was super into my background and everything. We just like, hit it off. And it, it's been awesome. I'm just super happy for him. He's, uh, yeah, I know it. I know you got to be careful like, how much you play that card because it's like, I know you guys are watching somebody that seems
pretty boring, but I don't know. It's been a little bit of time with him. And he's like, he's pretty
awesome. He's pretty good, man. He's pretty funny, smart, switched on guy that like, I've always
really enjoyed spending time with. And I've just, yeah, I found myself after 18 today. Just like weirdly happy for someone. I don't really know all that well. You know, just a guy that I, I really have grown to root for in a big way. It's so amazing. Randy, which is, which is also sick. Just one of those, off it out. Weird things though, too. Like, so much of, you based so much of your fanhood based on their personalities on camera on the golf course that'll be able to hear
Totally.
mannerisms and attitudes and, and aura on the golf course? And he doesn't give you much. I was like, please smile after winning that. I want you to walk off a, let me see you smile. I want to see a smile. I want to see some relief. I want to see what this means to you. And you just, you know,
βyou didn't do it. That's not his style. It's crazy. I think it's cool that snacks sameβ
personality as 99% of the people in my former job had. Yeah. We just don't really show much where they're to do the work. And, you know, I forever used to say, can't, he was part of the Tretsoom program. You know, like, Camion is Tretsoom. Like, he is that guy there. He, uh, I think it's, it's almost old school. And then, like, going beyond, he not having social media. It's just like, he just lets us club through the talking and people resonate with his golf swing. Like, I think
that, that's a big thing. People just like watching him like all because it's rhythmic and like it's just, his swing just makes you feel something. And I think that's something that growing up, that was how you identify with players. It wasn't, you know, who, who, who did this or that as far as social media or interviews or whatever. It was like, who's swing did you like watching on the Saturday and Sunday afternoon telecast, right? And it's kind of a throwback in that regard in a
great way. Well, it reminds me so much of Randy, I'm sure you feel his way too. I actually, I don't know how you feel about Camion. But it reminds me of so many baseball players, right, where it's just like, I watch that guy every night. And like, man, I love watching that guy play based on like, what do you think he thinks, you know, what do you think his favorite movie is? Like, oh, I have no fucking idea.
I've no, I've never thought about once about him. Yeah, but he's like, he's like, I don't, I don't know.
It just is like an award for the count for the sport that I love. You know, are you, are you a Cam guy? Randy, where are you fall out of this? I, yeah, well, listen, full transparency. I was not on the trip. I've never met him in person. So I don't have like the personal connection to him that
βcertainly Cody does. I think guys like Camion, DJ, I think it's a good analogy with baseball players,β
right, that that don't give you much. I think they get more interesting as they win bigger events and put themselves in bigger positions. So I think like my interest in Camion is just naturally growing as his game has improved and as he's putting himself in these big situations. So certainly not somebody like, I root against. I have no will will and everything you guys say, like, seems like a an awesome guy. I think that style is, and a lot like Ludwig, honestly, that style becomes
more interesting in the bigger moment. So when or lose, I think that's kind of where I am. Can I ask you guys a question? And I think, sorry, real quick, though. I think TC also whitewash my early childhood adoration for Chichi Rodriguez with the, you know, we would just base him on great, Chichi. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. Well, Cam, big. I'm kind of right there. You know, I thought about this a lot of like, why does Cam resonate with me? And a lot of it's the same way like,
why feel resonated with me for a long time. Obviously, Phil's winning PGA Tour events a lot more
than Cam has so far. But he was always the guy that like tried to hit the big shot. Yes,
usually it didn't work out. But it was like, oh, man, he tried it. He's doing stuff. And like, nobody else, and most people would hit fucking iron on 12. You know, that's my favorite thing. I'm trying to like, yeah, I'm going to go for it. Yeah, I love this. Same thing. I, I never
βshould, I'm loving for not. I, I think I can't understand why guys don't hit driver well in 12.β
But I know the 12 example. Okay. That, you know what I mean, though. But rather played save, protect the paycheck. Cam is guy that like, he will try to hit that shot. Yeah. You know, and it finally, like, it took a long time and getting into wind them specifically. But I think
from wind them up until this point, his golf game is hell, a lot different than it was his first
two and a half, three years on tour. Yeah. Actually, I think there's something to this part too of why I think Kim has, has a little bit of juice. And I brought this question down before he came back in one. And so maybe it's an easier answer now than it was mid day today. But who's the second best American golfer in the world? Use your own criteria. Like, I don't care what the stats say. Like, in your opinion, who's the, who's the second best American golfer? Because I,
before he even won today, I think my answer was Cameron. Yeah. You take him over, Zander, over who's sorry, I'm breaking up over Zander. It's a great question. I mean, that's, or, I mean, I'm, I'm Bryson, you know, like, I guess you're thinking like, past our future, Henley. But the thing, it's a pity. It's a pity. It's a pity.
It's a pity.
Yeah. He doesn't do this. He's two, he's, he's leveled, you know, leveled in the conversation.
Colin, we haven't talked about it. Sol, you, you bring up a good point. As I'm interpreting your point is there is an opportunity. There's a little bit of a vacuum and I agree with you. Like, in American golf, like, there's a vacuum of like, I kind of had it on the list of like, there's no, uh, Dege, you know, I love talking about the kid. Like, there isn't, the only nomination you have right now is Okshay. But he's already, he's been around so damn long. He feels like,
you know, he's at 28. So he's not the kid either. He's got three kids. But my point is, there's no, there's a vacuum right now in the younger side of American golf. Colin has, you know,
βabstained like Jordan and JT are just, you know, JT's coming back. He had a good week. I thinkβ
that's promising. But Jordan's close. I'm, I'm hearing from my colleagues here that he's close. But I think what, what I'm hearing is there is a vacuum on the American side of like, there's room for more dudes if, if you want. And he has the potential. I don't want to bastardize your dude. Definition. But he has potential to be one. He definitely has the, uh, you know, the, the, the, the, the making is the potential to be one. I, I have thought a ton recently.
It really seems like, um, I don't know, pebble, I guess, about that exact thing like, who's the American dude. And part of it is like the dudes don't have, they don't have massive, like the, the kid has to have some personality. Yeah. Right. And, you know, there are really good, young American players. They're just kind of like Jacob Bridgeman and Ryan Gerard. And, you know, some of these guys who are, who are not, who are gray players, DC,
right there. You know, they're not really going to, I don't know if they're going to get this people saw, you know, eight sawgrass splashes deep, really going out there. Uh, necessarily. But let me, let me, let me take that though, DJ and, uh, take this step farther. I think you, you're, you're either like, you go the Bryson route and you have all this social media, this person out, or the max route, and you're just like, you're kind of a media darling,
or Cam Young's almost zagging as hard as possible, where it's like, man, I am just not going to engage at all. I'm not going to get stuck in the middle here. And, and that makes him feel different.
βAnd I think that's what attracts people to him is like, man, this guy's a mystery. I don'tβ
know anything about him. He seems like a killer. He seems like he's, in Treadstone, Cody, like, this guy is scary. And that's that is, it's an identity that I'm just saying. It's so funny that he does TGL. I don't get why that TGL. I live there. That's true, I guess. Sol and I play with them, too. Like, we, we've, we've played with them in these, in these different
environments. He's stung for me. That he's not going to be my second best golfer. I, Sol,
I think that you're being a little unfair to Bryson. Like Bryson's bagged some big ass tournaments. And I think that resume, not like resume in the past. Like who's the same right now right now? Dude, I think, like if you, if you went out there, like if Bryson would have teated up at sawgrass this week, and I get that he didn't. I know why he didn't. But like, no, but like next month that at the masters are at a ramen maker, whatever. Like Bryson is
leaps and bounds for like we're, we're talking to somebody small subset of sicko golfers here. Bryson is leaps and bounds ahead of cam from a, from a popularity and fan engagement and just reaction, especially. Oh, totally true. Yeah. Yeah. That wasn't the best. So it's Tiger Woods.
βYeah. But it's like, uh, I, I think cam versus Bryson's mask or that. Like, that's not,β
that wasn't a question. I think Tiger, or Tiger. I think, uh, Bryson versus came young heads up masters that is pretty interesting. Right now Bryson's 16 to one to win the masters. Cameron 25 to one. Um, Zander is, I mean, I'm just saying, Bryson last year finished, like,
Bryson's last eight majors. T6 solo second first, but T5 T2 cut T10.
Cam's got T9 T63 T67 T31 cut T47 T4 cut. I just think we're, the question was not who has had the best last couple years in major championships. Oh, I, I get it. I, I just, I just think that Bryson, like, I'm not like, like, I think we're having ways to short of a memory here for Bryson as far as, like, yes, he maybe hasn't played great in the last three to six months, but we haven't seen him in a major in the last three to six months. And I feel like we need to see him in a major
before we have, like, let's have this conversation after the masters. We can. But the answer was for right now. And Bryson doesn't play on a consistent competitive level. Uh, like, against consistent
Competition enough to, like, what Cameron just did is more impressive than wi...
I totally, I, I couldn't agree more. I'm just saying that the last three times the Bryson's teed it up against, or the last four times the Bryson's teed up against legitimate competition. He's played quite well. Let's do the argument. Yeah. And TC though, I'm actually surprised that your argument was
for Bryson and not P. Uh, as the. Rain second. What, three or four times? Well, you can go
four out of five champ. I mean, I, I can't believe you didn't bring P up as the second best. I did. I was just in the world these days. You know, he's playing everywhere. Over the last six months, or basically dating back to the beginning of August last year, a Stroke's Gainwise Scotty 3.21 came young 2.30 Russell Henley 1.9 for top Americans over the last six months, or whatever that would just back to beginning of August. When he switched golf balls, like when he became
when he became this guy, that's the thing is like this happened after major season last year for him in terms of the like transforming himself as a player. And we'll see what happens when we get to the
βbig events, but it's a just an interesting interesting question right now. Can I ask a dumb question?β
Please. Is this a hot streak for cameras? Is this a new level or that's the whole question? A new level of devil. Yeah. So I had some thoughts that I, Cody, I sent you a graphic from
data golf because my eyes, did you brought up that Cam was third and Stroke's Gain
approach? But I found today and, yes, Jay Page McKenzie brought it up on live from this morning. I thought it was a good point. He seems to struggle from like a hundred, but eighty to one twenty, which is a shot for how far he hits it. Like, it's like man, that kind of feels like it should be the, you know, something we're we're trending on. So this is a stat. These are from data golf. It's like the approach break down stuff. The trend is not great. So the two year trend
and the last 12 months compared to those two, like he's, he's just way down in like proximity, greens and regulations slightly down, but just like it not dialed with wedges. Now he, his, his bad shot avoidance is good. It's not like he's, you know, off the planet, but like it kind of lined up with my eye test the last couple days, where it's like, man, we got to do a little bit better. Now, at the end of the day, 17 and 18, he's stuff, you know,
he hit two really good shots when he absolutely needed it. But I'm thinking about like 15, I'm thinking about earlier in the round where like, I think on 90 had a wet, no, not 90 was in the, in the wilderness, but there was just a lot of wedges where I'm like, God, we have to get closer than that. Like, what are we doing? And it does feel TC to use an analogy, like he's throwing a little bit with the, you know, the top of the bag. Like it's not that styled. He's so long and that's the
βtoughest part to be in the wrong is you have to dump a bunch of speed with your wedges. That's a reallyβ
hard skill to learn. It also probably didn't love that. That trend line didn't look great to me. If I was picking, like, and the reason I bring it up is like, yeah, you won the tournament, so who cares? And he, and then I'm like, okay, third strokes gained. So, you know, approach like, but if I'm thinking, Randy, to your question, is this a hot streak? It's like, it doesn't feel when those clubs aren't super dialed, it feels hard to be sustainable because proximity is kind of like
the name of the game. I would caution just to sample size what you're using for that, you know, because like, if you look at, that was for 2026. Yeah, I looked at it for 2025 as well. And he's definitely, he's way, way down, just compared to other players. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, and I don't know exactly what goes into, I just, on his actual page, then they do like a breakdown of like his expected skill from certain areas. And I don't know what the aging is on shots
like that, but from 100 to 150, they have him as like a 90th percentile player, you know, he's, he's green through the bag on approach shots. Like he's an excellent, uh, his excellent approach. Well, then I would put the question to you guys, like, did you, until literally the last two holes,
βdid you feel like he was, like, lagging irons this week, you know, hitting it close with wedges this week?β
Like, I didn't think that until the very end of the tournament. I felt like he was always a threat.
As somebody that had a Cameron Young 30 to one ticket and was, was sweating that out very much, uh, throughout the course of this week, like, I never felt like we were out of it, you know, if you click the breakdown button up near the top right there next to the pentagon up there, Cody, that'll show the approach skill by category. But, uh, you know, it was firm out there, it was a really tough test. Like, it wasn't a dart fest, you know, so it, uh, what was a good
wedge shot this week, that might not look the same as what, like, a good wedge shot might look on a week to be basis on tour. So that's what it else is now that he's putting much better than he had
Historically.
of feeling like you have to jam in there with in four feet in order to make a birdy instead of, oh, no, like I'm, I have a pretty good shot of making this from from anything inside 12 or 15. I would love to get a potting breakdown. Deja, if I didn't have one of these photos shoots this
βyear and cams there, I'm where I'll take me to the potting green sir. What have you changed?β
I would love to learn about a couple of things. I think Faxon had a great note about his friend
that's been caddy in for him for the last. I mean, basically since Swindham, right, or, uh,
hasn't been that weak in 18. The Canadian open. So just before the hot streak started, who, you know, Faxon said it a couple of times, but basically like, oh, he's not reading any of his pots. Like, he just, he's got his body on the bag because he's the best green reader that he knows. And he's just, you know, I'm sure it's an oversimplification, like, kind of, uh, you know, exaggeration, but he's basically like, oh, he, he reads the greens. He tells me where to hit it and I, I hit it.
And I've been putting a lot better. So it might truly be one of those things where it's just like, was a bad green reader or wasn't driving with the past caddies or who knows. You know, literate. Deja, the, I feel you. What strikes me about that, tying it back to
βa rainy set earlier is like, is this a hot streak or is he changed the floor?β
Is what I would say like zooming way out is like, wow, he's just been like putting his face off. So like, that's kind of where the most improvement has come from. So that continues. Then the floor's gone up. But like, does that ever, does that ever continue? Like, for forever? I don't know if that just like, if that's switch just. It's under, right? Like, guys, make pots for six months, eight months kind of a year sort of thing. But I don't,
I don't think it's like, oh, like, I used to suck. And now you just became the best part of the world for like 12 straight years. I mean, I guess Scottie's kind of doing that right now. But I would argue his ball striking flip, too. I mean, his approach, if you look at his approach, graph, you know, since this time last year, it looks like a completely different shape. Like, it was going the wrong direction now. It's going a completely different direction. Same with
off the tee game, he went from a okay driver around this time last year to back to being really, really, really good on top of completely flipping everything about putting. It's, it, man, this is where like, you got a balance out. Of course, we're sponsored by this company. And I, we, we do ads for this. But like, this is like a magic golf ball for him. Like, he switched to this golf ball. He was in a, you know, ignore the ad part because he was in a title
golf ball before this as well. But whatever he changed, this change that he has made, it correlates
perfectly with a complete and total makeover of his game. And one twice, instead of never one before,
now he's one twice, including one of the players and played a ton of good golf in between that. Like, and the rider kind of just, yeah, and the rider cup had that moment. I kind of just think that's hard to think that it's a, a hot streak. At this time last year, what do you think is data golf ranking was during the players week last year? 41. I'll say, 28. 1808. 1808. Yes. Whoa. Yeah. It's not just putting. I mean, it's, it's a master class of ball striking. It's one of the best ball strikers in the world.
And now he puts the shit out of it. It's, uh, it's a really, really scary evolution. And we'll just to, to clear some of that up. So Kyle Serbenski, he, he's his college roommate. They played, they played a way together. So he's not just a friend that's out there. Like, he's a very accomplished golfer. So I hope people don't think that like, Cam just has a random guy that's carrying his golf bag. Yeah. I just, I don't want to play or even read this. He's kind of like a
beautiful mind. But it's very interesting because we've seen kind of the evolution that Cam is
βgone through with with Catties and like, he, I think he got advice. I was like, remember theβ
Paul to story, uh, period, where's like, he has to be with this professional Cattie who this veteran who can help guide and steer him around out there. And really, it's just like, no, he just needs to be with this buddy who like can help him out, read some parts every once in a while and like, they just worked really well together. Dude Cody, I had, um, I was out at Bellair and like I out there, Scott McKean, same thing, played, played college golf with Cam and then Cattie
Formus first, three, four years as a professional and like, it was the same thing. Like it was
his buddy, also like really good player, like played, you know, played a bunch of, uh, many sore stuff and, and you know, was was a really good player at Wake. But yeah, like he's, it's kind of like, like, once another dude on the back, that he can, that he can vibe with and hang out with. Well, I guess guys, I, strong a little bit with like, people, and maybe this is just because I root for these people, people seem to be like really, really just jumping, like,
jumping at the bit to shit on Ludwig or to shit on, like, like, like Cam, Cam didn't win. I think it's more you. Yeah, they want to shit on you, T.C. Let's not nullify. People are like,
Oh, Zander's a dog, Zander's a dude.
Remember, Augusta, like, we talked about Ludwig or we talked about Zander, we're just talking about generally speaking, like, I think people need to have patience with these guys careers. Like, it's not like, is that really Nicholson is your favorite player for, for, for, I know.
And there was no patience with him, right? The whole media arc was like, this guy can never win
the big one. But you had just the way it is. You know what I mean? And do you believe in this guy or not? And evident, you guys don't believe in Ludwig? It's, it's crazy. Like, I, I, I've taken 100% away from the debate. They see. There was a question that precedes whatever you're on right now. And it just been, I've been suing on this for last half hour. Just put your own target on your back.
βAnd you shot at it. That's what I'm telling you. I'm very, who's done this? Who lit the match on this?β
I don't know how to close the thing. We all see the cool down. Yeah, I want to read it. No hyperbolic about Ludwig. I don't understand. I'm buying him all the stock that you guys are selling. What did you say? It's like,
today that all the haters nobody believed in of this week. I fucking finished third last last
ending. Ludwig. Yeah, T.C. is like, you guys are shitting all over. You know what? No time for the zander people that are like, oh, this guy want to fake major of all. And he choked away some stuff. You really are plastic out. 32 or 34. Yeah. It's ridiculous. I'm sure him and I'm not worried about Ludwig at all. I think he's, I think he's all right. Great. He just gets back on the rails here. Yeah. You know what? We have not talked about
math. It's Patrick. Very little. Guys, almost one of the golf tournament came up one shot short. I just had this staff that I kept kind of going back to. Miss the fairway at 18. He drove the shit out of the
βball this week. He led the field in fairways. It you missed the fairway at 18 all four days. I think he missedβ
like 12 fairways 13 total fairways and he missed that one all four days. Just a shot that clearly like was in his head. He played the 18th three over for the week. But not a guy that, you know, TC, I think you said this was that last night, maybe. Just a guy that like seems like he would play Pete Digoff course is really, really well. And also just like wasn't on my mind until, you know, really like that we made the turn where it was like, oh shit. It's, it's going to win this.
And yeah, just I, I was struck and you guys taken an interesting one. But it was truly struck by the move. He was putting on the driver. He looked like he was putting every ounce he had into it, correlated with how King's Trady was hitting the driver. And how low? Yes. All its man. It was,
βit was so impressive from from him today. But one more thing about Ludwig. I just don't understand.β
But let's say, it's impressive. Round run 70, round 269, 69, 68. Just kind of there all week, quietly and just yeah, charge up leader. I don't math it's Patrick. He is not scared. But you know, he's just, he's got like, it was such a juxtaposition. He's got no swag. Like, I like fits Patrick, but it's just kind of like, it's not, uh, it's not the most exciting golf package that you're going to get. You know, it's like, ah, it's Patrick going to win that kind of feels like a dumping cold water on
this watch and rubbing acid away. He's also, he's also kind of the poster boy for this tournament, too. Like, we kept joking in the preview. Like, is anybody ever played well here? He finished T9 in 2021. So top 10s. Misses the cut. Misses the cut. Finish his fifth. Misses the cut. Finish his
second. It's just like, yeah, that's kind of a deep sea saw, guys, right there. I felt bad for fits
kind of with the, uh, the jingoism came out there near the end as reported by, by our own T.C. of, of, I knew I had a feeling he was going to miss the puddle in 18. And I was like, yeah, they're going to, they're going to cheer when he misses it. And that's just, that's tough. That's not where about, unfortunately, might be what we're about. But there's no, uh, there's no, I don't know, I like fits. He's a really easy guy to root for. It is interesting when he talks. He's, you know,
you are right, Neil. He's not oozing. I like him. I am dissing him, but he doesn't have any sweat. The aesthetic. Yeah, because it's kind of dumb games. Interest features. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a sister. I'm a sister and blowbuzz. Uh, it might exclusively make blowbuzz. It's like the, the Romo collection. Yeah. He did handle it well. You know, said, like, they got a long list to go before it turns into death page out there. He was smiling about it even,
You know, on AT&T, like, he handled it really, really well.
cam in that moment, just because of the excitement factor of the, the comfort behind and things like
that, but I was a little gun at first. And that would be honest. We were also rooting for no playoff.
Yes. Just because whether we're, come on to the old media people now at this point. It would do not work well. We would do our night and new tomorrow. So that was all good. Good for business. That's right. Yeah. He was, he was definitely, like, it got somewhat partisan there's 16, 17, 18. And then 18, T, it really ramped up. Uh, he was taking it fine. Like, he was, he was smiling about it. He was laughing about it in good spirits. And I think, hey, I think Randy, you've been on this block
a little bit. I think we need to bring bullying back. Like, some of the shit that, that people, that people yell in these galleries is, is, is, is so uncreative and bad and stuff. And like,
βif you do that, like, you should be fair game. Like, all right, cool. Like, you know what,β
shut the fuck up, man. You know, like, just, just, I'm proud of that. T, T, T, T, T, T, T, T. Yeah. I think somebody's just trying to bring bullying back, you know. Yeah. And then I think, and then I think also, uh, you know, if, if Kigan, Kigan finished T, 50, I think if Kigan would have been one of those final groups, I think we would have lost control of the situation and Kigan would have been been a culprit, uh, you're guy, you're, you're, you're captain. So I would have allowed this.
They would have been pumping people up. Yeah, more. Come on, harass them. We need it. T, C, this kind of sounds suspiciously like you're about to start going down the leaderboard, which is a, I think exactly what we, we should probably do, Cody, unless you got something for that. I just want to give one big shout out to fits. I know that that sucks. That's not the way that
he wanted to finish on 18, but the first thing that he did was walk over and say congratulations to
Cam's family, uh, which is awesome to see. And he mentioned in his post round presser that, surprisingly, they're like, yeah, we're on the same TGL team together. Crazy, how much TGL impacted? They were like, oh, they're like, friends out there. It was crazy. You know, guys, TGL team hits. Yeah, well, I'm in the same together, man. Yeah, I like the modern weight room now. And I'll say this tube for fits. Like booking 18 on a, a course that has a very
real 18th hole is different than like giving one away as well. I mean, it's like a fucking hard asshole. Yeah, and if you're going to give away a tournament by booking the 18th, I feel like that course is like number one list. Like, yeah, that's kind of in the models. 100%. I actually, again, T, C, I've been thinking more about your wind take. I agree with what you're saying on the downwind on 18. I think. That's where, like, I mean, I'll stick up for Zander in that, like,
put in the iron there, get your stuff. I know everybody's becoming a Zander. That can't believe out. Man in the air. It'sander's been getting. No, I'll stick up for Zander for it. I don't know if that tea and leave it inside. It can a lot, a lot. Like, that's, that was the right play. Yeah, it's not it. It's a real left. Yeah, it's not easier downwind. You could get to the spot where a fairway wood would get with iron when it's downwind. You have a long ways in. And that
shot's also going to be at least somewhat downwind as well. But it is hard to hit the fairway. You have to get balls of your route with driver. Downwind, I think, is the full answer. This is,
βit's much more cinched up up there. You have to, you have to be more decisive.β
Camstrive was absurd ties with the lead of the players. Again, going first and not knowing what's
going to happen behind him. That's another thing, too, that again, I know we're back on Cam. But that had to drive a little bit of, oh, shit and fits. Like, I might need three here now to stay in this. Sure. That's a shot. Oh, it was like, yeah, what did Hicks say long as to the day by 20 yards, I think Rory hit one like 359 and Camst was 375 as long as the history. Yeah, unbelievable. All right, TC, let's go down the leaderboard. Of course, tonight's down the leaderboard is brought
to you by our friends at SoFi, the ultimate finance app. Thank you to them for sponsor tonight's down the leaderboard segment with Mr. TC, head to SoFi.com slash NLU to learn more about how you can get your money right with SoFi plus TC. We've talked Cam you know, we've talked fits. We've talked Zander. We have not talked big shop Bob. Yeah, big shop Bob and Sudarshan had the, they were what low, low, man on the weekend. Big shop Bob, he made so many birdies this weekend. He made what nine yesterday and it's like he made six today. He made 15
birdies at CPC saw grass in the weekend. It's that's remarkable. Back back, hot hands for him at
βthe players as well. Yeah, big shop Bob keeps popping around. He keeps doing his thing like I think heβ
he might snag a major. I'm nervous. He got zero point zero percent respect on our best players
Without a major podcast didn't even think about him.
Whoa. I mean, it's Bob because Oxi is anchoring. Oh, interesting. And Anne Randy, you're your Oxi take that like lefty's play well at Augusta and Oxi is going to win the best take was that Oxi will be the next lefty to win in Augusta. That was his take. Do you feel at all similar with him? Yeah, I do. He's got to look as does Sudar Sean. I'm not familiar with his game until today.
βYeah, big shop Bob. I think big shop Bob consistently outplays my expectations for him. So Iβ
have a lot of respect for him and he will always be one of my favorites because I wonder
did if he was purging at all this evening? Or if this was a good enough result that he didn't have to. He famously gives himself an hour just to absolutely go mental after tournaments if he's upset. God, I just talked about something I completely forgot about. Did he tell you that? No, it was in a press conference. I don't think he's like trash at hotel rooms necessarily, but that was almost like how it was pitch was like I just I go back and I give myself an hour.
I just go nuts. I just get it all out. What does that? Do you imagine if he went and trashed a hotel room at the sacred sawgrass marionale? Exactly, I don't know, especially under your leadership. Bob struggles a little bit like Fitzpatrick, just a
bad aesthetic. Just you know, just has never found this. Sure. It's so tough. Yeah, so tough.
βI think Bob means I think Tommy needs to take Bob under his wing. Like, hey, I would be.β
Come with. Come with Nike. I just I do you think Nike's recommending like is it an inside joke with him like, like, you'll let see if he says yes to the orange shirt. How about let's see if he says yes to the brown one. I mean, guys, it's like Nike. It's a joke or something. Famously, stop making clubs quite a few years ago. This might just be like old stuff from the warehouse that they're like, I don't know. We got it. It's just said about the stuff from like 2017. It's like
like Luke Guthrie's to give us. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. He's funny with McIntyre because it's like obviously he's a world class player and we're best in the world, but because of the aesthetic, I'm kind of like, can you really get an airborne? Can you, can you? Can you, can you, can you?
I know five aren't up in here. Like Anna Lensher. You know, that always looks. I don't know. Are you sure?
You have all the shots? Really? I mean, I keep moving, T.C. Who else? Yeah, sorry. All right. The guy that got his money right this week. Sue Darshan, Yellow Merashu. Guys, he, he made his career earnings to this point $881,000. He made $925,000 this week. And there's no state income tax in Florida as well. Huge. I didn't even put two and two together there. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, that's a substantially. Got him inside the A on next 10. And he's, he's up to 30th in the FedEx cup. As a rookie,
coming off the corn fairy tour, someone who can't dictate his schedule and get ahead of it. That,
βthat to me is like, that's, that's, that's remarkable. And finishing T5 is basically, I think that'sβ
there's more stuff that comes with that as well. So, and not really playing like awesome, awesome golf coming into this either. I mean, he had a great year on the corn fairy tour last year. But yeah, like you said, kind of inconsistent starts and hasn't really taken advantage when he, when he, when he has gotten, you know, to, to play had a good, good week at Sony, but other than that, it's been a little 66, 68 on the weekend is. Yeah. I mean, T2 was 67th in the FedEx coming into this week.
Yeah, it was a 30th, like you know, without getting back. Yeah. He was T13 and Hawaii T17 at the Congress, and, but like, yeah, going, like, one of the guys that went to Puerto Rico last week, instead of going to Bay Hill, you know, and then comes into the players and plays well. So, men's respect for that. Um, so yeah, he's, he's, he's our get, get your money right, guys, speaking of which we've a new FedEx cup number one. Oh, yeah. The bridgeman went from third to
one. Randy does, I mean, how does that make you feel? All kinds of things, T. C. I'm bummering you know, time to process. We're on it on me. I'm just getting word. I didn't know that. Bridgeman was felt like such a what, what could have been this week. He's pinched shots to the field. Bad shots and then he bounced back and hit. I know. I just, I think he's really, really good. Uh, we talked Ludwig plenty, Tommy. He, he see how perfect was this, man. The most
time to deal with. He was a great deal. Most on competitive top 10 of his career protection. He was special stuff. This Alex, he's like, one of the new Formula One cars. He's harvesting energy. Yeah, it in these turns. He's charging up the batteries, Neil, because he's going to need
All that energy for Shinaka and Burkedale.
sept finished T8, but what did he do? We'll get there. Yeah, that's true. So it's got a specific one,
βbut just largely like just drove it horrible, I think this week, didn't he? It was like,β
got it usually drives it like really, really straight. And he just was all over the map and just kept somehow making enough birdies to stick around. But, uh, an over-perform week, I think, for our, our guy, Just Seppi Strockin. Mr. Joe's, JT, you guys buy in stock. T8, I have no idea. I was going to ask you guys that too. I had that as a big takeaway question. This JT win this year. I don't have 72 72 on the weekend. Kind of ran out of gas a little bit, 68, 68, and then
back to up. I'll say this. I felt, I felt like JT felt more mature this week. I thought he was really
patient. Uh, he had some bad stuff happen. I mean, he, you know, he caused it to happen. So it wasn't
like it happened to him. But I thought he played really patient. And, um, I think he, he is going to win this year. This, this was, this was promising coming off back surgery. I thought this was a very promising
βweek for him. It's coming off of 79. Fail. Yeah. It's a good question. It's, I mean, I think the,β
the questions like, hey, Scott, you're going to start hoovering up tournaments again and leave not very many for a lot of guys to win. Um, it would be the reason I would say, I'd be surprised if you won this year, just because he's going to be in all the big events, uh, the ones that are pretty hard to win. I think JT wins this week at Valspar. Okay. There you go. Yeah. I think that, I think he likes that golf course. The field for Valspar is like, we'll keep pretty pretty good. I
think that's, that's going to be a sneaky great tournament this week. Uh, T 11 Patrick Rogers, inside the inside the A on next 10 inside the top 30. Do we put you in a dumpster? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got it out. I was saying, and I think kind of, you know, nothing, nothing, but find things to say about Patrick Rogers and I kind of had to ski mask on this week. Just an anonymous. Yeah. Give me, give me all the money. Give me 600 grand to put in this pillowcase.
Let me get out of here. Uh, yeah. He kind of morphed into a meal over the last few years, just like, I was actually talking to the data guy, the data golf guys about him. And they were like, it's crazy. His career progression. He's just stayed tore average as the tore average skill level. It's gotten better and better. He's just stayed right there at tore average. I don't know if
you can call him you. He's in the sickies. Like, no, but he's just like he never really sniffs winning.
No, kind of like new age Camtron Gala. Right. It's a good call. I wonder if he is a what if that will be would never know. But obviously coming off like in the same college career and same junior career. I wonder if he's one of those guys that like, you know, if he locks into a some win early in his career, I wonder if he has a totally different error about it. You know, and just like get started on a different trajectory. Well, you're now a team out on tour.
I'll top your head. 20. 2014. 11. 2015. Yeah. It's been never lost his card. I know. It's not was the other guy you play with at Stanford Cameron Wilson. Cameron Wilson. Yeah. I was so good to
βand became. Oh, yeah. I don't know what Avenue. I think he was wasn't like a rocket scientist orβ
something he was super smart. I think. Anyway, Brian Harmon, you know, you know, Harmon got blown out to see a little bit today. 73, you know, T 11. Sam Burns pretty solid. It's 76. Then three rounds in the 60s. The bounce back. That was kind of a weird stinker for him day one. He tied with Okshay, Brooks, the weekend Russell Henley, the great man team rose, Austin's motherman, Corey Conner's and Victor Holland all at T 13. Very good to steady week for Okshay coming off the dub. Yeah. 71, 71,
70, 70. Yeah. Brooks, you see over delivering under delivering or just kind of in line with what your expectations were. I mean, I thought this was good. That's a tick. I think delivering. I think. Yeah. Yeah. Over delivering because he lowered the bar quite low in terms of like the form that he, this version of Brooks is far from impressive as the golfer that we know him as, but a couple nice ways switching to the mallet and getting back in Florida and getting off Poe
and I mean, T 13 to players, man, that's a 120 man field with a cut for very serious rounds of major like test being, we can't let him sneak up, come major time. It's good enough play that you
Have to at least sound the alarm bells and we cannot go 35 minutes into the m...
mentioning them, which I don't think I would have said like three weeks ago. So I think it's a really
βsolid trend. I agree. I think, I mean, he kind of rags his rig on 18. He doubled the last hole.β
Otherwise he would have been easy top 10. Well, he hit one miles right on 18. Guys, the weekend is really good. It's not sooner. Like that was a big takeaway I had from on site this week. I watch some play a few holes. The apex is high. The speed is there. It goes faster. Yeah. He's just in my lineup. It's the sweet gun. He hit one on 18 solid today. He hit one 341 of the left side. You know, 128. He's got some, he's got some, some there there. That's some pop. Yeah. Yeah.
Good week for Austin's motherman there. T 13 Scotty, T 22. Randy, what was your, what's your Scotty grade this week? Oh, you guys are going to hate me for this. I actually take more good from this week than bad. I have him like, I don't hate you for that. I hate you for it. I hate you, Randy. Yeah. I hate your
βguts. I think clearly fighting it. Showing where the floor is. I mean, the floor remains high. I trustβ
him. I think, I think he'll, whatever he's got to figure out, I trust him and figure out. That chip he hit on 16 today. I don't know what that was like. 30, 30, 30. That was, that was one of my shots of the day. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm high on him. I'm not hitting the panic button as I said Friday. And he's going to play Houston. Yeah. You took the words on my mouth, DC. Do we see him again? Do we see Roy again? We got three events? Was it Valspar Houston? And then, uh, we'll see other
Texas events. Where? Where? Where? I think more likely, just because it's Texas that you see Scotty. Yeah. I don't see Roy. I don't agree with you. His quote was, I'll see, I haven't really made a decision either way. I'll see how my body feels. We'll see how I feel in practice and at home. If I get, if I get itchy feet at home, maybe add an event at some point, which doesn't feel like, well, you just, yeah, I just don't see him like adding, like, I can't wait to get these
Houston. Yeah. Can we, I would hope, sorry. I would hope Scotty plays just because he does have to, you know, I feel like he is trying to fight through something. I feel like the more tournament reps you can have the better. You guys were all about swing. Some of that's up Randall was saying as far as like the swing being so much shorter than it was the year ago, or I can't remember what the baseline that he used was, but he said it was a foot and a half shorter, which I think was just
a lot. I don't think that would. Right, but that's Randall. That's just that Scotty's Corey Paven of this journey. Corey Paven. Yo, can we get a due date on, like, that's a big looming question. I had
to the first major of the year and one that he probably should win is like, are we going to have a
beper situation and is this going to happen, you know? It's what if he had a beper situation and then he'd be with Drew and all the, all the gamblers and the, in the fantasy guys, just be in a apocalypse. Well, I wasn't lineups are wrapped. The awful. That's mean. I don't even joke about that T. See, don't joke about that. Hey, hold on. That brings up the base thing brings up the, it hit me watching Kamiang's press conference was like, yeah, my family's with me like almost every
week and I'm just like, man, he's got three kids and he's just flying around like all over the country. I don't know if he's flying a private. I mean, he's one 104 in the date of golf last year. It's like,
βI, I feel like they're taking commercial flights like, just like, that's, that's what we'll,β
we'll talk to you if you're not inside the top. How many final data gone? Exactly. No, it's an interesting question though. It's just, yeah, I just, we got to hit with taking two kids up flat a couple of weeks ago, not for the faint of heart, man, to do a week over week is, but think about how, fucking stoked you'd be to go practice your chip again for that. All right. See you guys. All right, guys. I got to get out of here. I got to go work on my chip rig right out.
Right now. It's incredible. Yeah, maybe he's just got incredible perspective. You know,
he's pumped to be out of the golf course. He's not showing you. You know, he's not showing it to you, but it's got to be there. I got two more. We got speed that T32, you covered on on speed that we, we see, you know, those light clear with the one stinker on Saturday, the Saturday 76. We need somebody to put a ringer score together for Jordan, like over four days, I bet he almost birdies every whole. I don't know how many such a good idea for roll up the ringer score. Yeah, we can get a
Pass at a score point.
or like, lowest, you know, lowest, round bonuses each day, and then the ringer score. He was like, we could do a nudies. Like, they did it. The, uh, leave him seriously. I remember both. He was, uh, I had some good good quotes about like, look, I get it, man. I know what it looks like, but it is, it's there. It's good enough. It's good enough that I can do what I'm doing for stretches. It's just going to blow up at times. That's going to, there's bad code in there, Tc.
We probably go via Jordan, right? No, that. That vibe code too much stuff. Kind of fix all this stuff, but it's just fall apart. Yeah, but now he's got AI. That's the prom. He came to find the bugs, you know, it's all these booby drinks and they shouldn't. I said that it, this is like the whole economy's built out of that. All had a great thing in his newsletter. He said, you know, talking about the speed. He's like, yeah, like, I haven't, I swing as a book, couldn't 10 years.
I would swallow it well for 10 and for the last 10 years. Good stuff. Oh, okay. All right, uh, yeah. Randy, what do you think? Is he close? I think he's no, I think he's so far away. And next, he's like, I wanted to thank he's close. I think he's so far away. Well, that's good, actually. Based on how your predictions, what this week is. That's true.
βThat's true. That's true. I don't know if he's playing Valespar, I mean, that's what I'm going to win.β
Finally, it's silver lining. What about Saha?
Where do you finish this? Saha. Where do you finish this? Saha, where do you finish this? It's in a fridge. He shot 77 today, so total 70s. Yeah, I stay hot, baby. Let's go. You have literally in a perfect week, I'm pretty sure. What was your bold prediction on the, on the, on the previous part? Uh, I think somebody was going to hit it in the water. Something to do with 18, which I don't think I'm going to stretch with the water. Okay. Well, TC, I think that takes us maybe to the end of, uh,
of down the leaderboard. Um, I just have to cut out, to Kumi Canaya. Wait, I was looking for his 80s. He shot 81 yesterday, bounced back to a 72 today. Uh, yeah, I did see big tone struggle. Tell me with a, a 75, 77 on the weekend. Talk about, tell you what close. Uh, shot to our friends so far from presenting today's down the leaderboard. It's saying that you can go to sofi.com/nLU to learn more about how you can get your money right with so five plus, uh,
where should we go next? Neal, let's go to a segment that, you know, how we can get this, this segment sponsored. We don't know what we're calling it. Neal's notables, but the rest are energy for this segment. It kind of is insights. We did this on Thursday. It was, it was what spawned the, uh, Hadekki walks like a toddler after he makes a birdie. Uh, I didn't get much camera time after this, but keep an eye on that guys. I really want to know if I'm
βfishing in the right pond with the Hadekki. What, uh, what do we got the notebook today?β
Um, I had, well, so I had Cam being able to pull off the necklace. We already talked about that.
I, I think first up, Cody, I sent you the graphic. Fitsy's pre shot chess flex slash, like,
stretch. You kind of hits this skill. It's like, yeah, you know, it's like, kind of, you know, I was doing it on every, like, key shot, like every full swing. It was getting just the traps and the chest, all Lucy Goosey, um, which I just found kind of, to be funny, because it was clearly part of the routine. And I haven't seen anything that physical in somebody's routine. Uh, it looks like one of those birds of prey. Yeah. It's going to make himself bigger. Shoulders back, you know, just kind of
trying to feel the alpha in them. I like that. I had that. I think I also had just Fitsy walking and puts in the highlighter accident sketches just didn't really hit. You know, you know, I was like, ah, dude, I don't know, man. It doesn't, it's not working for me. Again, I feel like I'm clowning them. I, I have a ton of respect for Fits Patrick. I think he's super comfortable in his own skin. He's a gamer. He's not scared of the moment. Like, like, you said it earlier, Sonic. I don't think that
he, like, gasped it on 18. That didn't feel like a choke job by any stretch. I, he got into a bad spot off the tee and, I thought he put a pretty good stroke on that last part, it just didn't go in. But a couple things, he, he does have some just stuff where you're like, man, that's just not very cool. You know, that's just kind of part of his thing. But he's like, I'm good. I'm not, I'm not trying
βto be. That's right. And that's what I, but you know, it's just, these are things I'm noticing. So we'reβ
going to call him out. I think this one was awesome. Another one that maybe sit up in my, and my chair today. Bridgman flying at 30 yards over the green on number 11. I think I sent Cody of this. I mean, look at the splash on this guys. There's like, there's like 10 yards of bunker there.
What's got to be in the stand and back there. Like, I've never seen anything like that. And as
somebody that likes to fly greens that warm my heart. So I want to shout that one out.
Neil, I regret to inform you.
I think it's a fighting back there. He, he missed for a day. He didn't, he didn't. No, no, no, that's bridge. I went back and re-wound this and took a picture of it. That is the splash on his ball. Yeah, that's just right. That's, that's short right. Right. Yeah. Oh, is it? I thought that was behind the green. Oh, okay. Because I was like, 270. What the, okay. We have a, we gotta be careful. We're wobble with five for action. My god. That's, that's on me. Okay, Rory's answer to whether or not you,
βwe will see him at TGL match on Tuesday. Uh, question. Can we expect to see you at TGL on Tuesday?β
Uh, we'll see. Yeah, geez. I haven't even, yeah, we'll see. Geez, geez. We'll pee. Yeah, hit him with a geez there, Randy. Let's go move, move the bedding line. Oh, I hear that. You just reminded me. Oh, no, I want, I want to be, I want to be Boston with Rory in the lineup. It's not the same as if he's not there. Yeah, I want to know their best. What do you do? Are you pre-gaming anywhere, Sally? Is there any? Yeah, geez. We'll see. I mean, yeah, I haven't even a final.
I have, it's a semi-sTC. Come on. I can only imagine the look on Royce face when he got that. Oh, geez, that's Tuesday. I mean, no, God. I forgot to start with this. Oh, there's a test on Tuesday. Oh, God. I have not studied. Uh, that's very, very relatable stuff. Uh, all right, I've got roll up announcing no ropes behind the final group on 18. He just stole this one from you. And then the final group being very, very much not 78 over four. I don't like, it was like, it was a two minutes, but we
came into the booth to announce that one. And it was like, yeah, man, that just seems funny to me now.
There was a split second when I saw those people like right of 18. I was like, oh,
maybe they're just going to let the ropes go for this group anyways. Like for this second to last group. Like, that would be got to say, but they opted not to do that. Uh, TCA had time to shoot in 68 and sneaking in yet another uncompetitive top 10. We talked about that. And then Randy, this one's for you. I don't mean to bully Fizzi, but just English droughts and sporting events, just tickles me.
βYou have to obviously the world cup. I'm going to throw Wimbledon in here because Murray Scottish,β
Randy Murray Scottish, so like, that you're going to pick people up. Yeah, for sure. Well, though, I already pissed them off because I called him English long ago. And they were like, he's not English. He's Scottish. Well, you know, she's actually one, PGA championship, no English winner ever. Yeah, I might be a credit to them.
I don't know. Actually, but I just, I just always feel like that as a sporting country,
it's just, I know that warms your heart. So I threw that one in there for you. Yeah, it was like a miss, a whiff on, a team rose this career resume. Pleasure. Yeah. Well, and the reason I brought it up is because the players continue to has no English winner in what 50, three years or whatever it's been. Last but not least, guys, I'm ready to to glare this not a major simply because the Italian wasn't there. If NBC's
not going to bring to Rico, we can't call it a major period point blank full stop. You guys just you dictated this, if you're not going to bring your A player to the players, then we can't call it a major. My guy's got to be wiped. Yeah, he's been put in a, he's been put in a, he's been approaching the clock in the last couple of years. I understand Olympic super, well, I did a home game for him though. I did it too. They've got, they got big NBA games. But that tells you something,
right? Like, I bet we'll see him at the US open, right? Because that's a major. And it's hard, I don't remember this is a hamster to him thing, but they closed it all out. And I, individually, I still like all three of these guys, like Faxon, Kisner and Terry Ganon was like they're closing, you know, chat, like putting a wrap on this event and it just didn't feel big. You know, like, I don't think, like Terry Ganon's toy final answer, you know, it just,
it just didn't feel big, man. And they've not been able to fill in behind Johnny and Gary and Raj and not at all. Well, it, and I get to your point, all of them in a vacuum, I'm like, no, you're, you're good solid, but it's just too many voices, but it need to be like to like need to go to
βto Rico there. I honestly, of, uh, just to make it feel like a bigger sporting event is for Rico and theβ
Clapper Jack Cannon. I loved it. I like personally love Dan, I'll come with them. This is not, I think on a broadcast though, on a golf broadcast, he is like the zero war, like, he is replacement
level to me. Yeah, first day afternoon, yeah, you know, the crowd was then we get like a chat about
fury, but then he's not around, because I guess that's golf channel. It's just like it's so mixed up, man, and I, what, one thing that hit me a little bit was what I took away from like roll-up stuff on Wednesday is just what a difference. Just clear, uh, communication is and just like, say, and, and, NBC's not being clear. It's like, who, who do you want me to, like, who matters, man? Who might have invested in, yeah, it's not, there's nothing clear about the broadcast. It's like
There's just too many people, and we're, we're throwing way too much at the w...
just doesn't, it just doesn't seem necessary. How was it, like, generally this weekend, other than, like, was the, were the Tracer's good, was the commercial load good, was, yeah, I thought it was a bad rush overall. Yeah, like better than, better than, better than, from an NBC standpoint, it was, it felt like good effort. Three, you know, three years ago, four years ago, like, they were throwing
everything at the problem in basically being like, see, like, we're capable of, of a great week,
you know, when we want to rise to the occasion, it doesn't even feel like that anymore. It felt like, better than the normal week, but not, better than the normal players. Basically, they really needed it to get exciting, like, yeah, like, the broadcast got better when loving it in the water. Yeah, you know, it's like, Randy, you had it on your, on your great sheet for NBC, would you, would you have there? I, yeah, I don't love, I just think in totality,
it's, it's like a C minus from them, because the commercial load was not the issue, and so that's like great, you know, shut out the sponsors or whatever, but like in a tight golf tournament of this
βmagnitude, I can't tell you one interesting thing, kids said down the stretch. I think it's just aβ
total with having him in the analyst chair. I just don't think he adds anything. Well, you just got to bypass every level, like he just went, yeah, you know, he's not, he's not when you say that. Former player in sites, he's not, he just, it's a total with for me. So I think the broadcast feels disjointed, they had some good graphics, they had some tracers, like, they had some good stuff, but if they're a predictor, they, that thing needs to go back into a QA testing. That thing,
that's a lot. So yeah, I like the idea of that thing, what it's not really working with.
The wind. This is off to you. Yeah, it's clear. I hate that thing. It's never right, and it'll be,
it's worth right a lot. It's right like 80% of the time, 85% of the time. Yeah, but sometimes it's so bad of like, well, that we can't actually trust it, is it? Yeah, yeah, it's noticeably wrong, sometimes. The wind, the wind stuff has been great, and like the wind effect on, let's
βmake sure it is. That's not even an NPC thing. I just, the whole thing, like, I think it'sβ
really interesting that they're doing this NFL films behind the scenes thing that'll be out on Tuesday. How was the trailer? I haven't seen the trailer. Oh, it looks very good. I think it looks, it's just, like, by tweet something out, but it's like, all I've ever wanted is just dudes talking about shots that they're about to hit, and then seeing what happens. It's like, that's it, man. That's it. I don't have for 10 years. Yeah, I don't even need to be in the locker room. I don't
need to, any of that is just bonus. Like, I just, any of that's great. All I want, and there's a bunch of it in the trailers. Like, it sounds like OXHA is miced up. It sounds like Joe Griner's miced up. And I'm like, I just, yeah, I just want to see you guys work together. How do you tackle a big ask golf tournament, a hard, hard golf course, and, you know, like, try to figure out how to shoot the low score. That's, that's all I'm looking for as a fan, and it looks like it's a bunch of that.
βSo that, that comes out Tuesday at nine Eastern on the PGA tours of YouTube channel. The only thingβ
is they, they ended up following, it looks like four guys that best finish was OXHA at T13. So not a lot of guys that were kind of in the in the heat of it on the back down, which on the only covering four guys is something likely you're going to get one, but it still will be interested. There's a way to do that. There's a way, if you can get deep enough, I think there's a way that like any result is still interesting. It's not as interesting as, you know, having a mic on
cam and and Kyle down the stretch. Obviously, but it's like, if you can get me invested, it's, I don't know, it's kind of what we have said, but like, I know it's a very different scale,
but we always said on our week in the life stuff is like, if you're doing a good at Jeff job,
kind of being a flying the wall, it doesn't really matter if you miss the cut or if you finish right first, it's like, yeah, it should be interesting either way. And I got her up. I think we'll learn a bunch about got her up. It sounds like he's miced up. OXHA is like a good candidate as, you know, someone I've seen play golf, but and I've seen him in a press room, but I don't, I don't know a ton about him. You know, Joe's one of my favorite people on planet Earth,
like, would love to hear him miced up as much as possible. So I'm, I'm super duper bullish. And please, yeah, feel free to have Ag on my, my face if I'm wrong, but it looks, I think it's going to be really good. Yeah. So they're, I think, see who, see who was playing with. Yeah, another great example of, you know, on the day and the more about it. Yeah. And it was only the two of them in the group. So they had plenty of time to kind of chat. And then I think they, they got, you know, they, they kind of
switched over to some other guys or some of the lead groups Saturday and Sunday. Like I saw plenty of the NFL films guys out there with the final group. Oh, great. Final, final two groups. I think
That they'll weave that in as well.
right perspective and a, in a broad cast strategy perspective that they're doing this on PGA tour and NFL films YouTube and not on, like it's not going to golf channel, not going to, you know, Geekock or, or, you know, testing baby, you know, the golf channel app or whatever. Like it's,
it's basically like roll up saying, no, we're going to, we're going to have this on our channels.
βAnd it's, and it's a shot across the bow. I think it golf channel. And I think it, the full swingβ
guys, too. Hey, I want to bring my own guys in here to, to do something different because I don't think this, this other stuff was good enough. We, uh, I feel like that that transitions us to kind of the last great Randy. I feel like we talked a lot. Oh, I was going to talk more roll up. I don't know if that's our year. No, I got one more, uh, bottom of the list, things that are sick, the theme music for the players deserve to shout out. Of course. Of course. All the clips that I was dropping
it's a bang or man. They did a good job with that. That's the aged really well. It is good. Beasties really good with the music. I was reading that. Randy, we've talked about a lot
over the last, uh, last couple of weeks months. But what was, you know, I feel like you're first
big impression of roll out probably this week. What kind of great given him. Yeah. I'll tell you, it was not looking good from the start when he said history will remember Jay Monahan as a winner. But that's Randy. Fridge. No, it, it, I, I truly, like, sent us out all bits all hyperbly. Like,
βI think roll up is really impressive. He's, he's very good in that situation. He projectsβ
competence. He speaks clearly. He is able to get his points across. I, I truly would give him, like an A for that press conference and laying out this vision and a manner of course there are a lot of details to work out. But, you know, I, I watched the press conference and I can tell you,
you know, hey, 21 to 26, like tier one events, the two tracks, you know, late, January to
early September, the way he presented all the information. They want to be merit-based, right? Maybe some match play in the playoffs. I, I just, I was able to retain a lot of information there because of the way he communicates it. And I just think, uh, his leadership style is in such contrast to Monahan. I, I, I just, gosh, I am, I'm really bullish. I'm excited about about him and the future of this tour and, and where it's going. And it's crazy for me to say that because I've been like the
βmost pessimistic guy when it comes to leadership over there. But I, I really think it's a new day.β
Building off that just quickly, Randy, like the things that were said and then nailing the tournament set up is like, oh, okay. Like we're, we're, we're good here. A little bit of evident evidence of competence there. The tour is in might be in good hands and like we might not have to went to re establish the business model for as much as we can plan about things and throw out, you know, a lot of critiques because it's just like, ah, they kind of are on the path. Let's see what
they get done. Let's see how it all shakes out. But like, they're starting to get it. Uh, I think it's just been a long uphill battle. I think his whole thing that that's just, I've been thinking about this last couple of days has been instead of like, here's the old tour. Let's build something brand new. It kind of feels like no, what, like, what are the best elements of the tour? All right. What are our best tournaments? Cool. These day tournaments. Cool. Let's create eight
more, just like them or elevate eight more, just like them. And let's just make the core, like the heart of the heart and soul of the PGA tour. Good. Instead of trying to create this, this good new thing. It's like, no, like, we have good DNA here. Let's, let's build on that instead of grasping. Yeah. I would say I don't usually do this, but I know a lot more people listen to the Sunday pods than some of the earlier week stuff. If, if you want a lot, lot, lot, lot more on this.
Go back and listen to that Wednesday show that we did, because we got very deep in the weeds on, you know, all the point by point stuff, what's changing, what's not changing, what's a proposal, what's a, the hair brand idea. I thought that was a good combo. So there's a lot to a lot more there. Even just on the ground, it's pretty tough to explain, just how different and contrasting the vibe is between this year and even, it, like, even last year of just, like, though the, the
attitude and feeling and lack of tension among poor staff in players and everybody's just kind of feels like they exhale and isn't gripping the steering wheel so tight anymore. And that
Permeates through the entire experience out there.
people, people just seem like, oh, somebody just finally told me what to do.
βWell, man, it's a violation of what I think you're just what I've been waiting for. Totally, 100%.β
It's, it's apparent, like, roll up just, he comes off as just a serious person. And I thought, monahan long ago gave that up. Like, I just think he was ever serious person. Yeah. Well, it's also just, it's not just like words, also it's like an entirely new structure that's extremely well funded and that you players have equity into now. It's also like, there's a one and
half billion dollars from SSG into the tour. Like, the PGA tour is staying for the long haul. Like,
we're going to go up against Liv, like we already have and we've secured our talent with the equity that has been given out is like another just, it goes beyond just words set in a press conference I think is my point of reason for players to believe and and feel like thing the trains on the right tracks. Yeah. Guys, I think we're, we're hitting the end of our, our players championship
βconvo. So I think you got to take us out with with the coldest moment course presented by our friendsβ
at Yeti. Big thank you to them for their continued support. What do you got for this week's Yeti coldest moment? I know there's a, there's a personal one for you. Yeah. Yeah, this is, as an area, the resident aviary enthusiast on this podcast and on this group, I just want to say what it wouldn't down on the 72nd hold of Seb Strock is round today was beyond cold and it's, it's not what we're about. Seb recklessly played from the pine straw right of the 18th fairway
hit a ball at a lot of miles an hour towards three Commodore's. I believe that we're perched up there on the bulkhead and even hit one of them and it almost deflected it back into play. It did
get back into play for a second, but bang around on the bulkhead a little bit and rightfully fell
into the water. Have gotten word that the bird is okay. Thankfully, I didn't see any of the media actually reporting on this. This is a protocol or follow-up on society is investigating. They are looking into it. Pete is looking into it as well, but that was this piece Yeti coldest moment courtesy of Seb Strocka and I'm just glad to hear that one of them. And Ox going at the birds. I hate that. That's not that really had to hurt your heart as a as a bird as he is. I saw there was a
ball of eagle above nine today. I got a Sunday to picture. Man, pretty cool. Comerance, not come. That's a band. That's right. I don't also don't know anything about birds. So it happens that I'll tell you, you get words mixed up sometimes. You know, pints, pints, you could say, yeah, this is this week could not get any better for you. It just keeps going. And people mispronounce it. The side fell ever said we're late because I'm George. Yeah.
Yeah, big thank you to Yeti for their continued support in all kinds of different things that we do here in Newling up shop. The shop there complete rat complete product line at Yeti.com. Guys moving to move into rap here. Of course, Bryson is your winner at Liv Singapore wins in a rainy rainy playoff against Richard T. Lee who's tough. Tough pun there from tough. It's tough. It's for a guy big rich. It is 4th of sorry, Bryson's 4th Liv golf win.
βT.C. Your Aces. Be Ripper G.C. Your Ripper. Second straight event. I think the Aces tryβ
an Aces guy. Trying to angle for a Aces. Trying to. Everybody's your team. These are all your teams. Some of the guards guy up with a rhino. Yeah, I don't know. I thought that was going to be a deal. No flick. The rhino's driving. That one slipped that slipped down the list. I'm sorry. The other one I wanted to see there was a torque A's tweet about. There's a 54 hole lead. I think they're tweeting. I'll read this. These are their words. Not my words.
In their defense, that used to be the end of the tournament. So I understand there. They said months of this was, I guess about walking, even leading going into the final round. Months of hard work do not erase the champion. He is like Odysseus in the Odyssey. While Keen found himself back to where he belongs today,
he was relentless. He truly never left. He just took a longer way back. Shout out to the Odyssey.
One more day, walko, make us proud. He finished third, I believe. The first line doesn't even make sense. Months of hard work do not erase the champion that he is. No, it's like it just would feed into it. Yeah. Also, I don't know. Go back to it. Cody. The walking found his way back to where he belongs. But if he had to find his way back to where he belongs. Yeah, exactly. It's a bit of a Scotty here in flying. I was lost. Kind of situation there.
I just haven't seen a lot of golf tweets.
or a lead at the Liv Singapore. But just, yeah, had he stuff from your guys over at Torque, TC?
Yeah, he stuff out of St. Tosa. Lee Westwood also coming back from injury. First time in the final
βgroup, he finishes third solo third, I believe. Best finish on Liv. For him, I don't have a lotβ
else from Liv guys. Obviously, the video of Bryce and fallen into the bunker came across my desk. It was to begin. The bats flying around them too. I mean, for the Cleaks, Cleaks finished 11. This is like one of Blandi's worth. Worst events since he joined Liv. Worst things. Yeah, he's like in the 50s, TC. Yeah, no, it wasn't that. It wasn't good. It wasn't good. Camera had like an opening round. Camera played terrible in round one, shot 78. I don't know.
Where's where's Liv going next? We got the right guy. Oh, we got South Africa this week.
Yeah, man. Also, it's really, it's really incredible how lucky golf got as far as Dubai.
Yeah, yeah, and I would. I mean, everything like I just thought I canceled the the four middle one races there for next month. You know, yeah, I brought the rhino drive into like a future stakes and a match or something like that. You got to hit the rhino drive. Right here. Are you familiar with the rhino jack? Unfortunately. Yeah. This is a good. I got you. I got you, Burmester Tracker,
that boy can golf 69. It was, you had a great run this year at the
year at the rhino drive. Yeah, this is of course a video at Boy King golf 69.
βIt feels very good. Yeah, yeah, this is the formerly stinger. I believe GC nowβ
recently reading a stuttering guard put out a video that I think that I don't know. I think part of, do we play a good live? I don't know if we have it if we have it pulled up, but I don't know if he's fast. He's fast. The southern guard's mind. My DMCA, the whole pod. The the hard part with Liv is I think about half the guys think it's the Savannah, but the others and the other guys the other half things. It's like a real tour. You know, you have trouble doing like the range
goats and this whole thing is just we're just out here to make kids laugh. It's like right. That's that's a great measure. Southern guards do in viral like TikTok day at make it up TikTok day. It's is a great start doing streetwear. Yeah, it's just like I think half these guys are just like you see what these Savannah bananas are doing. That's what our league should be. And half of the guys are like we demand to be taken seriously. And I just think maybe that's going to rip apart
the in the in the center, but I don't know, T.C. You tell me and rums is so pissed. It's got to be. That's how we say it. Let's talk. What you're left hand up. What is this talking, Rhino, Brian O'John? Do you imagine you think Rob's going to get asked to do the ride? O'John, what do you get to say about that? Everybody's going to be doing it. It was like when they when they did that whole camera was like a parade or a toast or whatever for for Brooks.
After, oh yeah, we won the championship. Are you a championship? You can tell how
βmortified he was. Now I'm thinking of the flash bomb too. Remember that one?β
I honestly thought the Rhino Jive was like going to be like a South African like cricketer rugby like Jamie did for something else. No, that was especially especially written for the Southern guards. Yes, we've got it. It's. It's song has to be AI, right? Like. Oh, man. I got a little Caribbean spice to it. Good stuff. They seem to be having a good time now. It's great. I'm not yucking yums. I'm just saying
I just I don't know if that's what are we doing? What is the point of this? I can do it. I can do it. No, no, no, no, no, no. I have the I have the I have the WDR people are like fuck man. What are we thinking? We think. Trevor South African. Maybe he didn't write a joke. Who knows? We got it to reach out. Guys, the other thing we mentioned on the front of Hannah Green and say I believe a 12 year Aussie women's drought to win her native
Australian open by one down in Adelaide. Didn't get to watch ton of it. Congratulations to Hannah Green.
Cody got anything for us on this one.
Thanks a lot. You're as curry web with the last Australian woman to win their native open.
βAnd what a year so far for women's professional golf. You have Gina winning her home,β
national open, Hannah Green winning hers. Of course, Nulli winning the the Hilton
kind of kind of a home home. Yeah, the good news here is that this is the first year
that the women's Australian open has been co-sanctioned by the ladies European tour. It used to be co-sanctioned by the LPJ tour all the way up until 2019. So I'm excited that the L.E.T. is jumped on board in this co-sanction event. Hopefully that means that it will continue to find a spot being that it's this first year being back to a standalone event and not joined like it was for a couple of years with, you know, the men kind of lifting it along with them.
But very excited because the LPJ tour is back in the United States this week where we got the Founder's Cup firing back up. So we're going to have some normal viewing hours golf.
I got a check. We're seeing part of a commissioner of Craig's new packages that we're seeing
a lot more golf. So I don't have the complete broadcast times with me. But speaking of commissioner Craig for people that are interested on Tuesday, saw an eye we're able to sit down a couple of weeks. Well, about a week ago, for an interview with LPJ commissioner Craig Kessler. So that's going to come out Tuesday night. Very excited. We want to know a lot about current state of the LPJ tour where he came from, what his goals, aspirations, everything are.
You can check it out there. Cody, we got six to nine p.m. Eastern from Sharon Heights, golf and country club in Menlo Park. We've got a pretty good restoration and renovation there. You're recently. So that should be a pretty great viewing experience of later this week. Also, I just got to say, parasolinski keeps getting sponsored exemptions in these ladies, European tour events. That's unserious. We got to do better. Just going to say that.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We did a, you know, soli Presta Craig on a lot of things going back to Hilton the decision there. He, he walked us through that again, talked about where he's at now a couple weeks past. And then I really pressed them on
βNational Open's TC. I think it's going to be a good listen for you. So hopefully, as he is workingβ
hard at a new and improved schedule for the LPJ tour. And, you know, trying to, trying to call their shots a little bit here that I really enjoy. Anything else, guys? Otherwise, Neil, we got a little newsletter giveaway going on. We do. Uh, given away four pieces, four piece combo meal gentlemen. Uh, one luck winner. Yeah, uh, hold on us and board polo. We got the new spring collection, 2026 spring,
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you can get a four piece combo. TC, I'm scared to ask who is Paris Helensky? I don't know. We don't know. No, we're not doing that. Yeah. This is why we want to answer. Oh, you're an influencer. All right. All right. All right. You know, we threw the Southern Jive up there that that was Ryan O'Brien. Excuse me. Excuse me. Uh, that probably was the worst golf related video of the week. The second one. Solly is what you sent me over. The PGA tour trying to
βcapture, I think, Ludwig's pre shot routine. How long it takes him to actually. Oh, that was great. I thought that.β
But they. They changed the clock. They they mess with the space time continuum, like slowed the clock down. Yeah, I think he hid it in four seconds. I know. I loved it. I thought it was funny. The interstellar. It was a bit. I thought that you were. They're doing bits now. Sweet. Everything's a bit. Guys, well, a lot of bits this week. A lot of content this week. A lot of pods this week. Thanks to all you guys for all the energy. Thanks to everybody for watching Cody. Thank you.
So I say, I'm good on that. No, dude. It's just super quick. Really, really appreciate everyone listening during during major weeks like this. I'm just going to if this shows up. You've made the knowing a podcast. The number four sports podcast in the country as of right now behind, like some spot. Absolutely tightens. So we just greatly appreciate everyone. The 3500 of you that are still here at 930 on Sunday night and that tune in to all these live shows because we have a lot of fun
Doing.
there, we had her behind the Kelsey Brothers. We are they are 7th. We are 4th right now. So we are
we're dusting them like that. I'll say, guys, I'm sorry I crashed out earlier. - I just kept with how partisan it's got. Man, how do we fix this, I don't understand. - Alright, so without further ado, Rady, let's you got any best picture predictions.
- Well, listen to her, if you got time here, listen to her. - Honestly giving your opinion on once upon a time, and Hollywood, having watched half of it on a plane. - I was very upfront about that. I was leaving it to you guys, I thought the movie was too long.
- That was my point. - It was simply for your own sake. - That was classic.
β- You need to take a shot at me like that.β
- It was, I didn't expect Rady, I thought we were kind of chill,
I didn't expect it to open up fire in the restaurant as we were doing it. - Yeah, yeah, Neil, you used to do it. He sucked it. - I don't think I said that, I think you read that into it.
- Also, you guys wish me a happy skiing's day today. - Happy skiing's day, saw it. - No, you know if you didn't get it in a time. - I might be out on TV, I say baseball. - What a disaster.
- What a disaster fire. - Especially in comparison with other teams. - It's like, it's a scoped cab. - It's like super bad. Just look at some of these other teams.
It looks like the most fun I've ever seen in my entire life. - It's really for the Torah, is it? - Yeah, I know. - It's very much like a ah. - All right, this is why some of you idiots really get to the end.
- That's right, I got to get it back. - I got to get it back. - I got to get it back. - But I get it. - All right, thanks everybody again for tuning in.
Life shows will be back, not till the master. So we got a couple weeks off, but you know, we'll be here. Craig Kessler, podcast this week, we'll be back for Valspar in a lot more
as we lead up to the first major of the year.
- Randy, I'll see you in Philly on Thursday. - God willing. - God willing. - God willing.
β- I think you judge the home run as we speak.β
All right, get your TV. - Craig Kessler. - Craig Kessler. Do you think Ludwig wins by more than two? Is it a coronation coming on the stretch?
- Do you think it is? - How about you start? - I think it is. I think it's going to be a little more stressful tomorrow than maybe it felt at times today.
- I think you went to much least two. - Not so fast, my friend. - What about the witness, the strength of street knowledge? (upbeat music) - That's it.
- That's it, that's it. - That's it, that's it, that's it. - Good night. - Good night. - Good night.
- But what do you want to do?
βYou don't want to keep your whole studio.β
You're a master by today. You're the head of the Internet. You're the master. - I'm so sorry. - You can say that.
- You can say that. - You can say that. - You can say that. - But you won't believe it. - Exactly.
- You're a master. - You're a master. Make the money just like this. And if you then work, you can buy it. - That's right. - Save. Like this.
- Hold your money back. - Now you have to go out.


