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1136: Another Tiger Car Accident + Gary Woodland’s Emotional Win

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We open tonight’s pod with some thoughts on the news of another car crash involving Tiger Woods and what happens moving forward. Then it’s on to Houston where, in a much needed feel-good finish, Gary...

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>> It's back to anything different. >> Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the no-laying up podcast. Solie here, I am joined tonight by my strapped brethren. Mr. Neal Schuster is here, hello, Neal. >> Greetings, Solie.

You didn't ask me how I'm doing, but I'm doing fantastic, Randy, how you doing?

>> I figured you were doing fantastic. Neal, I heard you were working the chainsaw this weekend. >> Oh, you are, I got myself a chainsaw, an electric one. I got full control over that bad boy and the chaps to go with it. So yeah, we were chopping up some trees in the yard.

We liked that. Hopefully all your fingers in toes as well. I am good, yeah, I am good. I had a great week out here in Denver. Watch some good golf this weekend, excited to talk about it.

>> We have a big show tonight, obviously. We are going to be starting with yet another car accident in DUI.

For Tiger Woods, we're going to talk about that here in a second.

Gary Woodland's emotional win in Houston.

There were some good news going on in the golf world this week. Alex Fitzpatrick breaks through at DLF. Kyojukim again at the Ford Championship. We're going to cover a couple of guys that were higher on now than we were at the start of the year and vice versa, which may be a little bit more fun.

It's a Nelly stuff mixed in there. It's a good article a golf week about a gust of national changes. Talking to a bunch of players as to what changes they'd make there. >> I'm curious to pick your guys. >> You already know what I came up with.

>> You're not allowed, I've made you a non-stinky Indian, Indian category. >> There's a station here already. >> I read the article, it was like, I'm putting this in the agenda. >> I'm not letting Neil talk about 72.

>> Just not listening to you, but this is my platform, I got to hit it.

>> I'm always trying to put barriers around the shoes to brothers and it almost never works.

But I got two quick equipment notes before we get into the show. Gary Woodland put on a clinic with his title as ProV1 golf ball this week. He gained over five and a half shots on the field with his approach play. He loves the spin and flight windows. He gets from ProV1.

Natural high speed, high spin player. The V keeps the full swing spin down in an optimal range for him. It also he likes to flight the ball down, especially in the winds that lower trajectory of the V is a great fit. You might have also seen titleist launch the new brand new GTS2 GTS3 and GTS4 drivers on tour this week. Quick update there.

Over 50 players across the PGA tour, LPGA and KFT immediately moved to the new GTS driver, including 24 players. In Houston, GTS2 was tied for the most played driver model in the field.

And it's first week also GTS got a win and it's first week with Davis Lamb taking on the club card championship down on the corn fairy tour with GTS2 driver.

Titles also posted some pretty cool behind the scenes content of player testing this week so you can check those out on stay tuned for more GTS updates over the coming weeks. On the super not fun note, Tiger Woods was traveling at a high rate of speed. This is coming from golf week in a land rover and attempted to pass a truck pulling a trailer on a two-lane road. Woods swiped the trailer and his vehicle rolled on its side. It came to rest on the driver's side, according to the Martin County Sheriff Office Woods crawled out of the vehicle and showed signs of impairment.

There were no drugs or medication in the car. Nor was Woods injured, but he was left fargic on the scene, the Sheriff's Office said and he was alone in the car. DUI investigators were called to the scene to perform roadside tests on Woods determine that he was impaired. Woods was placed under arrest in transport of the Martin County jail. Once at jail, a breathalizer test determined that alcohol was not involved but Woods refused to take a urine test. He was booked into jail and charges of DUI property damage and refusal to submit a lawful test.

Of course, Woods's fourth vehicle related incidents since 2009, the famous Thanksgiving incident, where it was under the influence of sleeping pills, wasn't wearing socks and shoes. It was knocked unconscious in the crash. The DUI in 2017, where he was infirmately busted for driving high on prescription pills, including viking in. The alluded did Xanx ambient and THC, when he was found asleep behind the wheel. The horrific crash in 2021, when he was driving between 84 and 87 miles an hour in a 45-month hours zone, almost needed his right leg amputated and yet again another DUI.

I don't have a great question. When I throw this over to you, Neil, for a reaction to what we just witnessed unfold here this past week for Tiger Woods. I've got a lot of feelings. I just think first, things first for me, DUI or not, Tiger, anyone else just slow the fuck down.

I don't know, I have zero patience for driving really fast in residential are...

You've got a history with crashing your car. I don't understand why we can't slow down.

Okay, if that's because you're impaired, I think extra careful then, but the idea that he's rolling up hot on a pressure washing truck and then trying to make a last minute swerve and then he flips the car.

I truly like what are we doing drugs or not? I have zero, personally zero desire to drive fast. I think it's deeply lame when people drive aggressively. We've followed too closely all of those things. It just compounds mistakes and so I just want to get that out of the way first. That just always bothers me and it's like if you have a history that you're 50 years old, let's just not do that anymore. So great, set that aside. I think for me, it's kind of like I'm trying to prepare for this pod and thought about it all weekend.

I'd say, "What were my immediate emotions reactions to this?" I was actually ready to speak out of the chain, so I was out back with the chain.

So I came in, my phone's blowing up, slack channels, oh my god, another car crash for Tiger. What's my first feeling? It wasn't sad. It's not quite anger. It's just exhaustion.

Like every time I see Tiger now, I feel like I'm exhausted seeing him look exhausted. He looks kind of dead behind the eyes. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of like, I don't want to say life in there, but he just feels a little, he feels a little muted. And I'm exhausted saying to myself, "Hey man, he doesn't look right." Like I'm just sick of saying that to myself, but I don't want to get on like the Billy Payne High Horse here. Where it's like I'm stuck between like two versions of the word shame. Like what odd? What a shame, man.

Like the guy's got an addiction problem allegedly, right? I don't know, but like that's what it kind of looks like to me.

And then the other side, I kind of ping pong to like, "Hey, should be a shame." Like why are we crashing our call? Why are we doing this? You know, but then it's like, "Yeah, don't want to become Billy Payne and be like shame on you." Like again, he's a grown man. So I'm just kind of stuck in the middle, but guys clearly got a problem. Everybody, we all just wanted to go away. And it won't. And I feel bad about that. But I'm also just like, stop making it the pressure washer guys problem.

You know, stop making it the cops problem. Stop making it like we, the doctors that almost have to annotate your legs problem. Like I just, if we're, if you don't want to talk about it and you don't want to ask for help, then it can't be a public problem. I guess is what I'm starting to think about. And I just, like, so I'm just exhausted with it is kind of my feeling. And I don't know if that's

right or wrong, but that's how that's how I feel about it. It feels ridiculous. Like I, going through it,

you know, I'm trying to summarize like a decade of history here in a couple moments. But like, does he have the three worst golfer related driving incidents? Like maybe I'm forgetting, you know, a tragedy or something off the top of my head here. But it's like this is not normal. How is it all three coming from one person and all of them his fault? I mean, the the 2017 DUI, again, what we saw after that happened, people made t-shirts with his mug shot on it and he walked

by it at events and laughed and smiled about it. It was like a very serious incident happen with

somebody and he showed almost no remorse for it. The accident that happened in 2021, he was basically

asked one question about it ever and as far as I could find it was at the hero asking, you know, him to relive that or you know, describe the crash and he just deflected it saying it's all in the police report, which wasn't accurate, either and didn't get any follow-up questions on that. And now another one, I'm exhausted by saying like this sentence, like he's lucky. He didn't kill anyone and he's lucky. He didn't kill himself. Like this is the third time. I mean, the first crash

was in his neighborhood. He had a, he was in a hoax on conscious, but hit a fire hydrant. Like somebody may have been at risk very shortly after that happened. But like this, the other ones were on public roads in very public places. It is like, it's not that hard to operate a motor vehicle. And if you are like, they let 15 year olds operate motor vehicles. It is very hard to do if you're very highly impaired, right? And it obviously the problem does go much higher than just like the

decision to get behind the wheel. Like he needs from what I can gather again. This is not factual. We don't know what was in his system. We don't know what the causes for impairment technically were in this incident. We have that example from 2017. We famously don't have it from 2021 because the test was not performed there. But we try, we don't, we've made it a point to point out every time he doesn't interview that he just has trouble speaking. He has trouble speaking to the

public trouble like keeping up with things. The most recent one was the TGL interview. He did where

just like, it looked like he was on camera for the first time ever. And it's sad. It's horrible to

Watch it.

to me that have gone through it and I haven't witnessed it up close. So I don't want to preach

in the same way you're saying Neil of like it is, it looks like it's not trying to preach. No, no, I'm saying I'm, I'm in the same way as I don't want to preach. You'll like what a shame. Because I do. I have friends that have struggled with pain, killer addiction. It's gnarly shit. But it's like, I just wanted to, man, we gotta, we gotta stop acting like it's not a problem, I guess. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what to do with it, man. I don't. So, sorry,

I just, I don't, but I don't want to feel like Billy Paint. I keep bringing that up of like shape, you know, shame on you. But like, I don't know. He, he just get a fucking driver then. You want to just, just, like, you have the means. Just, yeah, you man, you're going to have

somebody that's, you have to keep on your schedule. But like, that's the choice at this point.

Randy, oh, we'll give you the last word. I, yeah, listen, I, I echo a lot of what you guys say. I think from where I sit, it's okay to hold feelings of anger at Tiger, like for being this clearly irresponsible yet again. That's, it's unacceptable. And I think it's also okay to hold feelings of sympathy and empathy for him, because quite obviously he is struggling with an addiction. And I don't know what that's like. So, I can't pretend to put myself in his shoes, but it's

got to be about the hardest thing ever and obviously he's struggling. So, I think it's okay to hold kind of these competing thoughts about all this. I net out that, you know, I, I would just hope he has somebody in his life that can reach him and have difficult conversations with him and try to put him on a path where he can get right for himself or the rest of his family. And, you know, it's just what I hope for him. I, it feels like as we're going through this again,

I don't know if it's, you know, nobody's able to, to push him to the help he needs. I don't know if

it's tiger, you know, obviously a strong personality, what made him great on the golf course. I think

plays a large part in, in what is happening off the golf course now. And so, yeah, I, I just think

it's, it's obviously a continuing story. I think it has been continuing. It, it always felt uneasy,

you know, a few years back when it was like, hey, tiger, he's good now, man. It's like, yeah, if you're addicted, that, that never goes away. And so I think, I think you just try to offer grace and, and yeah, I just hope somehow he's able to get help in his personal life because it's very obvious he needs it. And, absent of that, you know, I, I don't know, like, I know we're going to ask the question, is he going to be in Augusta next month? It's like, man, I fool for his

sake, I hope not. Like, this needs to be, you get one DUI, I feel like that's the worst idea of your life. As a second, like, official DUI and not even counten these other incidents that I don't think resulted officially in an under the influence, a rest or charge, like, it's, it's not good. If 2021 didn't scare you straight, like, dude, you could have so easily died. That's not hypothetical at all. You almost got your leg amputated. And nobody knows what happened. You

likely fell asleep at the wheel, going 88 miles an hour. Like, if that didn't scare you straight, then I, I don't know what would. If you have two, like, you have two kids, man. Like, I get that, I went down like a rabbit hole of thinking about this kneel, just like pulling, pulling back on this, was like, yeah, what, what made him super mode of, made him unique, made him mode, what made him such a great golfer, what made him get in this public eye, the way that he is is it works counter to

something like this. Like, he's a maniac. He was famous early, famous at a young age. I'm not

getting not excusing any of this behavior other than, like, he never became, you know, I think it was

still Simmons as the theory, just like the Michael Jackson theory on people that become famous

in the limelight before they've reached an age of maturity. Like, you basically just like stop at that

level of maturity as you get into your adult life. And I, I can't get that out of my head when I look at Tiger across all aspects of his life, basically, and had all the famous marital affairs incidents, which led to him getting divorced, which sent his life down a different path led to a bunch of injuries, because he was a maniac and wouldn't listen to anybody. He led the Navy seal training to the Navy seal training, because all these injuries, which caused the addiction to pick,

keep pulling the thread and it just ends up at a place of like, like you said, you know, it's just a sad story. Like, it's just a sad story and I don't, I do, I, we've all,

Everybody's been saying this, everyone's been saying this back to 2017, at le...

not be driving. You just shouldn't, and I know it's probably a point of pride and a hard thing to give up, but if this doesn't do it, take away his license. Second D, why, I don't know how the legal system actually knows. I'm not a lawyer, but can we take it away? Because it, I mean,

if he's not gonna give it up, he should, you know, he should turn it in. I think the piece of it though

for me is like, there's this disconnect between when we, when we do see him like on TGL or just

like throughout his career. It's always like, yeah, I'm solid. Like, the kind of, you know, he's

Superman. Like, yeah, don't worry about me. Like, what the, yo man, we're, we're 50. Like, I'd like to see us enter a new phase. Like, look at Gary Woodland. I mean, like, the vulnerability he shows two, three weeks ago, it felt like he's got the monkey off this back. It's like, man, I'd love to see Tiger Poor that like, nigh, a cool, militant discipline into, like, getting clean, baby, like, take privacy on a world tour, get off the grid, dude. Like,

if you don't want to go to rehab, just go, go off on your own, just like, disconnect for a while, because like, he clearly doesn't like the public, like, the only, he always wants to like, operate on his terms with the publicity stuff. He doesn't, doesn't bask in it the way Phil does

in the way other athletes do of like, you know, he doesn't really want to be on TV or do interviews,

but you can't have it both ways. Like, if you don't want the publicity, then you can't be getting in car racks either, right? Like, like, that, that is just part of the deal. And I,

I don't know, I'd like to see him enter a new phase and the, I think something that I would really

appreciate with Tyler is if we actually saw like the real tiger, it's like some vulnerability. Like, some, imagine if he came back and was like, yeah, man, I had a problem and I fixed it. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm working on it every day, not fixed it, but like, I'm, you know, just like, I don't want to say like, coming clean with everybody, but I, I mean, I would be drawn to that, like I was with Gary Woodland, like, and not like he's coming clean with an addiction, but something

like, serious that he's really struggling with, I mean, it's like, dude, I mean, everybody, be rooting for you, man. It's just hard to root for somebody when they're kind of like, yeah, I'm solid. And it's like, you'll clearly, you're not solid with the fuck. Yeah. And that's, it's, I, I, I, I can't walk a mile and issues in terms of pain versus pain relief, right? And that's where it's, it's, I imagine it's a very difficult battle. It obviously is. I mean,

he's overcome so much, you know, adversity, some, a lot of itself inflicted, but then that's where I'm also, if I'm just being honest, I'm like, I get to a point where I'm like, where, when I do say self-inflicted, that it might be diminishing the effects of addiction, you know, I, I don't like talking about this because, and then when I say that, then I'm like, well, my being too sympathetic to somebody that's putting other people's life at risk here. Like,

this is the sympathetic view is like, we're worried about what you're going to do to yourself,

but I think that's what I was trying to say, so I was like, yes, to all of that. Like,

you can feel all of that and they kind of contradict that points, but I think there's no, like, that's okay. Sorry, to interrupt. No, I think those things can be contradictory. I really lose the patience for it though, with like, just the putting other people at danger, and like, that's, and nobody wants you to be hurt either, tiger, but like, the public roadway, like, I, I, I had a, a, a, you basketball team made a mine,

died in a DUI accident when he was 18 years old in Columbus, and like, it's just something that I, I, every time I hear about one of these scenarios, like, it just hits, it reminds me of that, and it, it was not a close friend of mine, but it just sucks, man. And it's just not something to be, to be taken lightly, like driving into the influences, just not, whatever that influence might be, it's, it's just so not worth it, man. Especially for somebody worth billions of dollars, and can

easily pay somebody pay a service 300 K, 500 K over the course of a year to just drive you and your family around at all times. I mean, that's it, outrageous expense. That's overpaying, but that's for 24/7 service to have nearby is just not that crazy, even as given your current state, but to reach, yeah. I think if I may, just a few more thoughts, I think what makes this such a sad story for me, and this is all armchair analysis, like, you know, it should go without saying, like,

I don't know tiger, and I don't know what's going on. But from where I sit, right? I feel like he's

in this tough loop, where the golf is what has always given him meaning, right? It's what's

given his life meaning, and it's also what has broken his body. And I sense there's a real struggle with, like, what to do after golf, or if he can't play golf, right? So like Neil to your point,

You know, why do you keep putting yourself through this?

You know, we're talking about another comeback. Can he play the master's this year?

And it just is, it's sad to me that I think, for tiger, in my opinion, it's like, yeah,

well, without golf, who is he, right? And that gets back to, you know, the earlier point about

this childhood that was in the spotlight, and he never really got to grow and develop as a person

outside in a way from this sport. And so I see that, which makes it just that much more of a, of a sad story to me. And then I think the other thing that comes to mind is like Neil to your point about showing vulnerability, you know, the, the, the, the, the number one thing everybody says about addiction, like the hardest thing to do is for the person to admit that they have a problem, that they have an addiction. And I don't think we've ever gotten that from tiger. And until he himself

is able to come to that realization, I just fear that we're going to be searching for the rock bottom. And I, I hope that this is the rock bottom, and he could admit whether he needs to do that

publicly or not. I think in time, he, he should admit it publicly that he has a problem,

but certainly start in private and get actual help. But yeah, I, I, I, the irony, the irony big is like the, for for his foe strength reasons, he doesn't want to do that, but the real strength would be to do that, right? That's 100%. Like it is a, it is showing a weakness by trying to tough this out or whatever, whatever it is that you're, that you're doing with this. I have a question about a lot of things about the fallout from this. And kind of how we've operated, I'm guilty of

this as well. I, you know, by the time, you know, by the time 2019 masters rolled around after 2017 DUI, I'm, I'm willing to have enough time has passed from that happening. Looks like he's got his life on track. His face looks normal. He, you know, he had been to rehab. Like he, he seems to be doing better. He's forgiven of his past crimes that I could accept that moment. And, you know, tiger wins the

masters and it's incredible. You know, obviously the horrible accident happens in 2021, but, you know,

time goes by and it, it, there's just like an aging of the event and you're not like when he pops up on screen. I'm not thinking about the guy that you know, went 88 and flipped the car over it. You just, it's not out of sight out of mind, but it just there's an aging period of this. Does this force strike change anything when it comes to, like, he's basically in charge of, with Brian roll app, he's in charge of, like, figuring out the future of the PGA tour. He, he, he hosts to multiple

PGA tour events. He's being talked about as the next rider cup captain, like his golf talent and his presence in the world has outweighed so many of the bad decisions. It has made people, myself included willing to forget some of these decisions. But if it was like, hey, just, let's say it was Zach Johnson was maybe the next consideration for the next rider cup captain. Zach Johnson is consistently potentially addicted to paying killers and getting in multiple DWI car accidents.

Would he even be, be even a remote consideration for rider cup captain? Would he be able to, but, like, we seem to be able to look the other way when it comes to him, does this change things now? Is this the one where it's like, what, what, what does Genesis want to have their name next to next to Tiger continued with that event? I, maybe that's a shallow way of thinking. >> Well, I don't understand. I mean, if it was anybody else, like, I mean, if this was the

fourth DUI adjacent traffic incident for Phil or Bryson or Dustin Johnson or Zach Johnson, like, we would, yeah, we'd shame him into oblivion, man. And, I mean, I guess, we all, I think we all, like, collectively just want to be like, when he says, yeah, I'm solid, we just want to take him

at his word, but I just can't trust that anymore. And, you know, Randy, like, shame's a powerful

catalyst, but it doesn't seem like the, I don't know, the public, it's like, yeah, it should be, like, in the room with the, like, do the golf power brokers need to get together and be like,

hey, Tiger, we need you to step aside for a while, go get right. Like, is that the only thing that's

going to solve this? I mean, part of me thinks, yeah, but I don't know if anybody's got the balls to do that. >> It's an interesting question, because I had the same thought, you know, is it, in a sense enabling to just keep inviting him into two or headquarters to have them a part of everything to have them involved with tournament, solid, you know, TGL, I don't know. And it's, it feels a little unfair of me to sit here and say, like, to the PJ tour, you need to

cut him out until he gets help, but Neil to your point, like, like, like,

Pure shaming is not going to get him there.

And I, I just think there's, there's a thing with addicts, and I've had a bit of

tangential knowledge about this of, you know, as it goes, right, like, an addict keeps asking for money. And the family keeps sending him money, because they want to be nice. They want to be supportive. They want to be helpful. And what you hear is at a certain point is that's not helping.

Like, you need to cut this person off. And they have to be with themselves. And they either

are going to hit rock bottom and recognize the problem, or, you know, maybe the worst happens. But it gets to a point with addicts where I, I think it's kind of a, a very clear path. And I just wonder if he was told by the PJ tour by Genesis, by some of these tournaments, right? Hey, we can't do this for your own sake. You need to step away. You need to get help. And until you really do, you can't be here. And we're not going to associate.

And if you do, and when you do, we would love to have you back, right? Yeah. I thought it feels like something like that. Again, because we're talking about, this isn't the

first time, right? This isn't a one on. This is clearly a pattern. And so that's why I guess I

feel a little bit at liberty to even, you know, venture this. But yeah, I, I, I felt that, like, are we just all enabling it a little bit? It's the fourth part. But it's like the 25th time I've been, like, I didn't look right on TV. You know what I'm like? I don't know. I don't know shit. But it's like, so solid, like, when you're talking about 2017, I can understand that in 2019, because it's like, oh, man, you know, he seems like, yeah, like, we, you know, we got help, we're back. And, you know,

that's why it's a addiction sucks, because it's just, it's never, it's a hundred years war.

But I thought I, I, I voted a lot of the discourse on the, on the inner webs this week. But I did read Joel Beale's column. And I thought it was really good. And there's a quote that really stood out to me that summed up how I felt about the 2021 stuff for a while. So I want to read this quote, quote, Wood's drove off a California road at high speed and shattered his leg, nearly lost it. The Los Angeles County Sheriff called it an accident. No blood was drawn. No substance test was

administered. The official account was no evidence of impairment. And that was mostly accepted, because Wood's head nearly died, and it felt indecent to push. That line really stuck out to me. Continuing here, but the absence of a test is not the same as a clean result. It is the absence of a test. What we're left with in place of information was a story about survival and the road back. That was covered extensively in which made, and which made it functionally impossible to also say,

we don't know what was in his system that morning. That matters. It still matters. And quote, so that that it was indecent to push. Like I, I think at the very least, Tiger should not, like get frustrated in patient, lift if he's asked about this in the future. Like, and it was almost like, you know, you're not

allowed to ask. And that's why I do think the media got, like, all of us have got a little big

time on this, like after the, but it did feel indecent because it was like, oh, he almost lost his leg. All right, like, I got to think he's going to like clean it up now, right? Like we're all kind of crossing our fingers about it. But like, like you said, he got asked about it like one time. It was like, it was like, oh, no, man, don't go there. And that's like, we got to stop doing that. Like, I will say, like, yo, man, you got to be, you got to answer these questions now. I think that's

fair at the very least. I went back and read a bunch of stuff from when that happened in December of 21. So he was asked. So again, the question was Tiger, I'm wondering what you remember, the accident. Obviously, we all saw the result and looked so horrifying and scary. And I have a follow up to that. Tiger said, yeah, all those answers have been answered in the investigation. So you can read all about it in the police report.

Amen, legend and Damon Hat came on the air after the after the interview and and Amon said he

swatted away the first question about the car crash by saying it was in the police report.

All the answers are there, which is demonstrably untrue. All the answers aren't there. There are a lot of questions as Tiger should still face. It's indictment of golf. Maybe that he wasn't actually asked any follow-up questions about that. I said, I thought it was interesting how little he actually was actually pressed on what has been the seminal event of Tigers year. Why we haven't seen Tiger for 280 days and his ability to just swatted away and not

actually be pressed on it was disappointing in a way. Damon Hat followed up saying, not only about what happened, but what changes may be coming in his life because of that, what can he do to be more careful? Does he have a driver going forward? This is an accident that affected Tiger and could have affected others. And I went back and I was sharing all this and like I remember people

Shooting like violently yelling at me online and like this is a crazy hill to...

he's not going to answer questions about them like he should like he should he should why why aren't you asking them. Well, I don't go to the freaking horror hero world challenge, but like it was a weird thing people like rushing to defend Tiger and think he does his is his private life. He does not have to discuss this. He does when you're on public roads. If you're doing the shit in public and you're engaging other people, you do need to comment on it. I feel like everybody

else is going to what it would have to answer these questions. I don't know. Yes. So like, you know, listen, hand up. I haven't asked in the question, but I remember wondering about that and like, are we going to talk about this at all? Like, I guess we're just going to cross our fingers. And and here we are, you know, five years later, it's almost like there's no there's no like a event that once that you like a gust is just that's not what they want their press conference to

turn true and that could be a reason why he does play in the masters coming up. Like why not just get in front of the media now and then swatted away at a gust of which they'll you know, probably do what they can to protect me and then we can move on from there and say it's on the police report. It's probably all that's going to happen. It's just it's just sat at this point. But yeah, it's exhausting. Yep. And it's a bummer. And yeah, that's it. And you know what,

but then like you said, ready, two things can be true. Like man, him went in the 2019, like how fired up to that make me. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. I still like I don't think this is going to happen or even close to realistic expectation. But if he came back and beat this addiction again and came back and had a miracle, another major like I feel like I'd be running. I don't even need that at this point. I don't even know. I don't even know what I'm saying come back with like clear eyes.

Yes. That's for life. And like, you know, that's what, you know, kind of like the honestly,

the way I like the interview I saw with Gary Woodland, you know, just a guy that looks freed up, man, like talk about a like a, we said it in Slack today, a palette cleanser of like good for him. That feels great. And I'm glad you got like that off your chest. And then you just played great golf. Awesome. Yeah. He will get into some of that. He did have some comments afterwards about how affected he still was by by a few things out there in the back nine today, which we'll get to that.

Anything else on the tiger thing before before we read? I mean, I'd be shocked if we saw a

meta-gusta, but I guess you never know, right? Like, I guess he didn't. I hope we don't, you know?

Like, I just think he's got much bigger issues. Like, just go away and get right, man. Yeah. All right. We're on to Houston, Neil. But before we get there, I got to tell everyone about our, finally we can talk about this arcos thing. It's been killing me. We've been bottled up on all this stuff. Arcos, if you don't know, the official game tracker, the PGA tour, and honestly, the smartest platform in golf. It's not just tracking your stats. Helps you own the choices you

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truly, like, I am cynical about a lot of stuff. And I've never wanted my phone out to track stats

during around. I want to put it away. I got really am excited. I saw that breakdown that you just showed between like your driving, your approach, your, you know, your short game, what your relative strengths and weaknesses are. I have no idea what that is for me. Like I have my deers based on just years of, you know, what's in my head, but truly can't wait to see what it tells

me. And that's honestly tip of the iceberg. That's what I've chosen to talk about tonight.

It's tip of the iceberg because there's so many amazing features with the laser smart range finder and all. I'd have for the nest to learn all all the other stuff. Get in there. We'll keep talking about it because it's really impressive. All right, at the Texas Children Houston open, Gary Woodland took a one shot lead over Nicolae Hoygard into the final round. Hoygard was five shots clear of Minwoo Lee and Michael Ford Bjornsson at T3 at minus 12. So it was going to be Woodland

vs. Hoygard. They got boring in a hurry. Woodland made birdies on five, seven, eight, and nine is struggles from Hoygard. The lean ballooned all the way up to seven shots. Woodland went go on to win by five. Of course, gave the emotional interview on the 18th green this wife and your buy just 20 days earlier. He was on golf channel in tears talking about the PTSD. He was experiencing and how, you know, just people getting close to him in space and in some incidents

that he's had. It just made it very clear that he was struggling. And I don't think many of us in the golf world, maybe some of his peers knew a lot more than we did, but most people in the golf world did not know he wanted to speak out about it, hoping to help some heavy topics tonight. I'm just now realizing. But wanting to help anybody that, you know, maybe would be struggling in some way and just 20 days later, here he is winning back on the PGA tour for the first time

in seven years. It was quite serendipitous and I could not be more more happy for Gary and his family. I mean, Neil, you mentioned it, talking about Tiger. If anybody has not seen his interview, Gary Woodland's interview with Rex Hoggard from Players Championship week, I would just encourage

you to go watch that. I watch it again today. I think Gary is just the power of sharing something

personal about himself has turned me into a fan. And I guess I don't say that lightly. Like Gary Woodland's

never been somebody that like I've gravitated towards or who necessarily I'm I'm seeking out

if I'm going out to a tournament or even if I'm like flipping on coverage or looking for a featured group, he's just never been my guy. But now knowing what he's gone through and his ability to open up to be vulnerable to be a real person. Yeah, I was rooting for the guy today. Like it's amazing how quickly that switch just gets flipped in my own mind where this guy doesn't know whatever. Gary Woodland, I know he won the U.S. Open and now he's like a really interesting character to me.

And I'm really curious to see and follow along and write along on this journey with him because he's led us in a little bit. He's been vulnerable. You know he has connected to people in this whole new way. And as he said himself it's like a thousand pounds off his back and he goes out. He played really good golf last week. He played fantastic this week and that's that can't be a coincidence. And so from where I said it just is like Kudos Gary we knew we were talking tiger off the top of the show

and it's nice to kind of have this dichotomy of human stories. And I think Gary shows

what could be with tiger. Like there's a path there, right? But in and of itself the Gary Woodland story is fantastic. And I just think this is a great cherry on top today. No matter what he does the rest of the year. But now I'm curious. Like he's playing really damn good golf. Like he says

Gals never would be better. And it was interesting even though he was up by seven. I found it

interesting to watch a while he old that like hit iron's off the tee just I mean played like better and golf with a lead you know he was real. But you know as a viewer I'm leaning forward like man I wonder if he's like I wonder what's on his mind right now. I wonder it made me invested in the golf today and what otherwise like you said should have been like oh he's up by seven and it's two weeks before the masters and like you know March madness is on like do I really

want to watch this? I was like I was kind of like pretty locked in and I just want to say this. This is a win for dudes everywhere. I feel like if you look up dude in the dictionary Gary Woodland this picture is right there. I mean the guy's just like he's a horse you know he's a dude and uh

He's got just the wax it man.

what you know like I know we laugh about the all they're just better athletes. These are good athletes there's an example of like that guy said he's a dude man. He is the female like he's had 20 more in the tank like he if you remember when he came out like he I remember I watched him hit a drive

on the second hole to 2010 US open at Pebble when I was there in person and it was like

it went down I wish I'd find the shot tracker on that when I don't know if they had it back then

it looked like somebody where had somebody had laid up on the par five. It was it looked I think

he flipped a wedge into the second green of Pebble. It was one of the longest drives I've ever seen anywhere ever and I was immediately intrigued by him went and followed him the next year in Chicago in 2011 I think it was at cog Hill and then he like dialed it back and I don't really know the full story of that but if you look back in like the mid 2010s he I think in 2017 or 2015 one of the years I looked up he was like mid 170s with ball speed and he just I don't think it was a physical thing I think

he just was kind of raining it in for whatever reason he got back up back up in the 180s they're pretty easily but now he's close to 190 ball speed at age 41 he's just like embraced this stroke skiing I've got this I've got I've had this thing that you know a lot of people have and I probably should have been flexing it really really hard and now I'm actually going to

I do want to clarify I wasn't talking about your dudes like you're oh I know that's a different

guy who's like dudes you know you're putting kind of blended in for me for a long time I mean he was though he was the running back on the NLU all-pick-skid team it's like in 2014 the

guys been around forever long time we've always thought he was it was a you know loud trades five

full player maybe so it's yeah it's now he's got it you got a little bit you know yeah like there's something to root for so it's uh I don't know it was fun today he if you will just real quick Randy he said you know a question he got he said still my heart rate gets going I had to battle this week the last 10 holes on Friday I'd teed off on nine and some people behind the ropes got close to me and I got extremely hyper vigilant I'll tell you this if it wasn't for tour security and my

security's act this week there's no way I'm sitting here right now I was a wreck the last 10 holes of that day I got into scoring Zach got close to me tour security was visual so I saw them they calm me down I got into scoring I balled my eyes out I reset and I was able to come back out and take care of stuff after coming out talking and asking for help I didn't do that last year I didn't do that early this year if I wouldn't ask tour security they wouldn't have been

there for me like that I'm extremely thankful for them but I'm in a fight I'm able with a loving support I have around me I have hope like to win with all of my five with all of that shit going on man is so incredibly impressive like it again it was kind of like I'm watching and I'm like oh he's he's fine now it must have been really helpful to come out with that and he's totally fine and he's like no he was dealing with all this shit again on Friday like stuff that we can't

understand like it's not normal like it's obviously not a normal reaction your his body is having to a lot of these things if you remember he had a lesion on his brain that caused extreme anxiety terror and in some cases symptoms of fear and anxiety and then he had the surgery was in September of 2023 and this PTSD has been an after effect of all of this happening and it's just man again one of those things where he gives you that nugget of like no it's still going on man it's I'm not

past this stuff just because I talked about it's still going on and go to win a golf tournament

it's just just remarkable yeah I think the center shafted putter too I noticed that

roll roll in the potato today big pots everywhere Randy I just it was it was just a triumph I loved it I enjoyed the anecdote about his wife convincing him to get back to Randy Smith who was a long time golf instructor for him and then he moved away from him the way they told it today on the broadcast big Randy Smith essentially told him to like do your baby

in the golf ball you know the joke we always made about stew sing you know like quit

baby in the golf ball and he talked about putting in different shafts shafts that he used I think from like 2015 to 2019 when he was like really getting after the golf ball and he's he's made that switch lately and yeah he's just a swing and hard and he's a lumber yeah yeah it's it's fun the only other thing I like my kinship with Gary has always been he played a year of you know he played a year college basketball but it's the same exact year we were freshman in college the same

exact year we were the same age so he played the 2022 23 season at Washburn a D2 school and in Topeka while I was out at a D3 school in Virginia so I've always felt a little kinship with them

There would would love to challenge him to a game of horse sometime just like...

yeah tried to he's got back down

Niklai Hoigard did he should have found around 71 he did end up in solo second place Johnny Key from

Inmu Lee sharing T3 Sam Steven solo fifth heck of a group at T6 Jake Nap Chris got her up sedan yellow marajoo and Jason they saw it to go around the top 10 with the bronze and bergoon don't call me Benson Boone there with with T10 finishes there and DJ Pies face so I have a question for you guys as we're you know we're close to flipping over into major we're very close to flipping over to major championship mode but we're at the end of March three months into the

season almost not really this year because we didn't really have sent we didn't have sent tree but about three months into the season I'm looking for two guys that you are more positive on right now than you were at the beginning of 2026 Randy I'll start with you do you want both guys where we want to go one at a time you tell me

well let me give you my first guy then if you care for a second I can give you my second

so I'm just really intrigued by what we're seeing from Jake Nap just oh my guy oh I'm sorry go on go on well just how real it is yeah is this is this a hot couple of months is this a new level that he has reached and will continue on how much juice is left in the tank to keep getting better I mean as of today he leads the tour in strokes game total strokes game bummer he missed the cut at the players you know like the one big event so far this year he missed the cut but otherwise

his worst finish is a tie for 11th and otherwise he's been top five to top eight and every start

and to me you know he's one one son tour and he's always kind of just been a dude and somebody

it's like oh yeah Jake you know just like a name you recognize but I'm like okay Jake Nap like how good are you balling yeah and like president's cup maybe you know it's like things start to come into play where I want to see him yeah I want to see him in some more big events and I want to see

how real this is well Randy let me add to that I think he's got loud ass traits to use a phrase that

that you coined for me it's such a good phrase but like the smooth golf swing but it's magnetic because you know he's just cruising in the high 180s or mid 180s whatever I mean he just moves the golf ball seems like he's really started to harness the distance and paired up with a little bit more control off the tee he's he's putting a ton better the last six months and he's just got swag like period he looks kind of looks the part of like man that guy's like he's got that

kind of california cool and uh I find it pretty easy to root for he's also just like a course record dog like today so it's like another course record about 59 in the last year it's like that's just fun it's like that's it was kind of I feel like borderline I don't want to say gimmicky last year and that's like no now we're seeing like consistency so I'm with yet it's like I was a little bit like oh yeah Jake Nap like he's like I used to be the balancer now it's like no

Jake Nap's had like straight up game and I I'm I rooting for him to keep this going so there you have it. Loki put the lights out too like he has been an unbelievable pudder so far this year and I don't know if that's the kind of thing that lasts forever but it's I mean he's getting like over almost a shot and I have perround on the greens I was half to imagine that's the best in the world of the last year. See in the guy I'm you know

I'm always drawn to a guy that's not scared to go low because I'm terrified to go low

so when you see someone that's just not scared of it and then they're parented up with p6 this week like you said Randy cut and then it was 6-t8-8-t5-t11 that was the results this year that's pretty strong it's strong yeah best putters in the world of last three months Jacob Bridgerman won Jake Nap number two so let's go around I don't want you to to steal another one of ours Randy so let's do it yeah so you give us yours look yeah I would let me I don't want to

be able to get to guys don't you're not gonna steal mine mine's kind of down the board it's kind of a random one but bow-hossler okay I seems much more much more comfortable in his own skin I love the coffee stuff like Randy kind of what you're saying about I've got his game at all or well I feel like he's like seeing him and brace and off the course passion like I'm like oh that's cool like he seems really excited about that and like letting me in his a fan just a

little bit I mean and other end of the spectrum here but similar to woodland where I'm like oh that's cool like bow-likes coffee and he just seems like he's like personally like grown up and I you know I feel like I used to make fun of him a lot and I feel like now I see my leader board I kind of

Root for him now he's he's played okay he's like you know up you're not in th...

but you didn't you the question was is there's somebody that you're a higher on and that I would I would put both of that in that category you took it a different direction which is totally

fine that's what makes you you and so it makes you special you got the golden retriever

yeah I didn't I know and the enduring image was him in the NCAA where like his blue out his shoulder and he like you know couldn't swing the golf club yeah I was panicking for a little bit and I used to be way better than I really know he's not he's not all I'm hurting for I I'm gonna do somewhat of a little maya kelp not even really a maya kelp of the guys made changes and as made tangible changes and I'm buying them I think differently of men wooly

then I did at the at the start of this year he said he might be stabilizing he had a long-winded answer that I kind of summarized it in a press conference this week

but he basically said he had to slow things down to get more accurate in the signature events

because those events emphasize accuracy so much more and he's gone from like about 4% worse than average in terms of accuracy amongst pro golfers and now being 3% in the positive and he's only lost three yards relative to the field in the process like he's still hitting it very far but now above average accuracy his stroke gain off the tee has gone up from 0.16 to 0.85 well well that's almost three shots a tournament that he's gained just off the tee from being more accurate and still being very long

add and he's made a massive leap from being below average with his irons to now above average that's another two and a half shots per tournament so he's he's added five and a half shots with ball striking since the beginning of this year compared to last year and it's that's

reminded he's already a very very very good putter and you know he's gaining what is that's 7 he's been basically he's been

7's best worldwide in strokes gained so far this season and he's doing it and just to hear him say that out loud of like the signature events I was finishing like an average of 50th and all of them I had I was nowhere to be found and just like you know what we've been talking about last several weeks about how the signature events are such a better accuracy test than some of these just pounded events like this one just had me thinking differently about men moody and I will not automatically dismiss him if he

gets you know the top of the leaderboard of the big event so so I was telling you Randy put you

on notice you need to let him cook okay yeah nobody lets him cook it's good to hear that salty

I'm not quite there yet personally but I'm glad I'm happy for you and your journey with men men will this version of him is a different one so I stand by previous takes on it I'm glad he got back in the lab and and told us about that so what's your second one Randy I'm cheating a little bit with this second one because I didn't really have a strong opinion of him in fact I didn't know who he was but I'm mega down with God I got to look up the pronunciation so I get it right

Sudarshan Yelma Raju by far the most interesting Canadian golfer on tour I just think in a world where we have these kids and I'm painting with a broad brush here but you know the the little prototype who have been coached from the time they could hold a golf club and they'd seem to be just rolling off the factory assembly lines I just dig that this guy has like bet on himself his whole life taught himself the golf swing had no like family help really at a young age in the sport and here he is he's

he's made the PGA tour this year and is having a hell of a run I just I think it's a cool story

I'm in I find myself rooting for him and I think back to the beginning of the year I couldn't pick this guy out of a lineup I had no idea who he was that's good one Randy you're like them Neil I have no idea where you're gonna go no I had Jake Nap that was my okay okay that's over to you sir I see by time I would just say saw him I was more I feel differently about him now than I did at the beginning of the year I was worried it was a very much not good year last year

that he misses window and the guy looks to be a lot closer to to maybe even the best version of

himself so far this year and I still need to see a little bit more consistency off the T we always

do need that but I've been reminded multiple times this year of why I really was drawn to that guy and I think I think there's a a win in his future for this year I think that's something I'm counting on it might be a big certainly relatable yeah that's so big misses man it's it's it's it's fun yeah that makes it fun what about go in the other way somebody who you were going to pick us off brother somebody you're not as high on as you were at January one of the show college college you sound

Slow he's out we're still holding high on calling we're we're down from when ...

before the players but we're hanging on to this I shit you not saw the name in my notes that I'm going to read right now is saw it to go oh my god yeah and this nothing personal again saw it let me let me just say that seems like a great guy I enjoy everything about him away from the golf course I simply cannot take another stressful golf relationship in my life I cut my teeth on the film Nicholson experience I've been invested in the Jordan's beef thrill ride like I can't do it

with saw hit I can't do the roller coasters I can't do I just don't need it for my own mental well being I am saying no thank you to saw hit I don't need that stress in my life no it's a toxic relationship

for you it's a toxic relationship Neil thank you and I'm saying enough is enough I think that's so

fair for both of you I'm happy for both of you very fair it's very fair I can't fight you on that I completely understand where you're coming from there but it's also kind of part of the fun part of being a fan so yes Neil I got so I got to I'm going to go I'm going to go with my second one first Sun J M I just I don't know what happened I mean the good one Neil just forgotten man he's top 10 player in the world 18 16 months ago eight like finishing 2024 I didn't realize it until we did

our season kickoff but he's now like I was like whoa he's like he's 99th in the data golf ranking 92nd in the FedEx Cup but he's still doing a little bit of the Sun J thing where he had T4 at ValSpark otherwise completely the forgotten man this year and you know then I'm looking

up kind of his scatter plot I always I guess I thought he hit it better than he did but like kind of

blow average approach play blow average distance like I thought his game was built a little bit more for the like modern PGA tour and maybe I I was just convincing myself of that but he's 27 years old and I kind of expected big things I thought Sun J was going to break out like the last three years and then it's just like all of a sudden I wake up and like man he's not even in the realm anymore so it's just I'm just kind of scratching my head with like what's going on there

that's a good one um this one maybe is both of mine are maybe just a little bit too easy and one's a little harsher than it probably should be but the first one's JJ spawn I mean the I won the US Open last year almost won the players was on was a rider cover and he has just it's it's gone like whatever it was it's completely gone he has turned right back into basically being like a replacement level PGA tour player so far this year one top 25 it was at the

players I think he's only made one other cut even if I remember right that was yeah he made he made

T40 it's Sony T45 it pebble the rest he's mystic a miscutter farmer's miscutter genesis which is not a big cut miscutter aren't a polymer which is not a big cut miscutter vowspar as well so it's like he's putting horrible yeah that's really really bad I'm really bad putting so far yeah so that's everything else looks I mean not great but you know and I'm just this is the eye test on the data golf profile of the last you know what six seven events but the

the putting is standing out is like is red no good all right rating all around I don't say men really no this is unfair to the kid I feel bad but this is just a

direct result of him cracking the top 10 best players to never win a major oh hell yeah

Luke Clanton gonna need a little bit more from the side just I'm gonna have to see a little bit something here we did have the T5 and Puerto Rico otherwise it has been bleak this year so I'm out on Luke Clanton until proven otherwise kind that's just just chumming the waters for TCD child thank you for leaving me out of that you know that means the world I tried my absolute hardest on that pod thank you my my hottest all right I've got

Mr. Benjamin E. Booms yeah grand doesn't look great this year uh only top 20 and 2026 was at Sony

and I think he was like I made the cut this week top 40 it looks I have to look at where you

finish on the leaderboard uh but three straight miss cuts before this got married in December I mean big year last year kind of felt like man we have lightning in a bottle here and I'm rooting for that like not to be the case because seems like a genuinely good dude but like you know the swing

is always been like I know that he's that gonna hold up like long term on the BGA tour or we were

selling mortgages I think you know a couple years ago like awesome story but I just you know I'm like man maybe that was just a one hit wonder so hopefully not but that's you asked I hate hate

Hate not guys but here we are he was mine as well Neil you're a little harsh ...

he hasn't been a Neil is hard of a fall off his spawn he's not a one hit wonder he's still

a above average tour player I think it was like I was a pretty massively pretty sustain leap

uh over last year and very justified I thought Ryder Cup pick and now he's just kind of turned back into who he wasn't 24 hours again a very good golfer and very good professional but I you know like I'd be surprised as we're standing here now if he would be on the president's

cup team for example this year all right what an awesome story though to go from that's amazing

mortgages the Ryder Cup team in two years that's pretty cool should be enough for whatever happens from here it's like that's that's awesome you know no dog in that resume at all I want to give a shout to our friends it's so five for sponsoring today's episode of the all-in-one finance app where you can bank borrow and invest think about your golf swing the more you practice the better it gets same goes for your money by investing consistently over time you may increase the

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Stay on. Okay. Back to where we had a memorial park we're going to see it again here for the chevron. I was trying to think of a of a new lens to view golf courses through or talk about them we can do this

for all the courses from this week but like who won this week did the players win or did the course win

and it can be a little bit of a litmus test for golf courses but I definitely feel like the players won this week down in Houston but where where anywhere you out on this golf course. I

I'm a little bit needing and wanting more information. I think it looks like

I like a lot of things about memorial park and there's enough there to where I'm like oh that's interesting oh okay it might it might just not be a good course for the PGA tour is where I net out but I am excited to see the women play at the end of April for the chevron. I'm curious how similar the conditioning will or won't be but I guess I can give it a compliment it's a course that looks like I would like to play it and I think I would enjoy playing it so you know take

take that I guess for what it's well said I thought I thought I mean God I thought the areas of it maybe what any other Texas course I've seen on the PGA tour I was like man this looks cool like I like the burgers and the like that 13th the short four with the no bunkers on it and you know I mean those guys they weren't struggling but it was like those are some height lies eight and feet you know greens 10 feet of like pitched up like that it's

like greens yeah and I was like man I said the same thing right as like I would love to play there like that looks like an awesome municipal golf course and I think it should get a ton of flowers for that it looks like shout out to the dokeeto looks like they thought full redesign and I'm I glad it's being featured on TV is how I feel yeah it I might I asked you guys to prepare a take you've had in the last three years or so that you'd like a little bit of a Mulligan

honor may have calpa on and I'm gonna softly wait into waters here with a take of mine that I've been pretty steadfast on more clarifying that I am willing to wave the white flag or admit to feed on but I have underestimated at minimum the importance of rough and pro golf far as when it's really gone like this week it was like this is fucking stand for for these guys in particular now the opposite of the spectrum I also think stinks I think just thick rough every

like Tory pines narrow and thick rough is not a good combo but it just felt like there was no funnish PJ tour take now you've got a threaded needle here it is you do with with the technology out of control you've got a thread in needle Neil you do and that's makes it really really hard and how I think I got to get the but like it's not a coincidence I don't think to be a Gary Woodland just a massive boss be guy Nick like boy guard blowing it all over the yard

and just like what was the tour this he missed so far wide and they're like oh he's totally

Fine over there yet a better it got passed all the trees minimally who again ...

this but he's there Chris got her up in the chasing Sunday things that I cannot wait to get to

Houston so I can just hit it anywhere it needs a little bit more teeth for for a PJ tour event

ready to your point and that's what's like yeah this is a good municipal golf course I like

that they're playing an immunospo golf course I don't want the golf course to get you know Rwinder you know the municipal place should take precedent over the golf tournament you know in general anyways and I think I hope we see a little bit more rough for the women or even a little tighter fairways for the women and I think there's a better chance that a lot of the features around the greens get drawn out with the women playing and I think it could very well be it a nice

major championship venue but for the for the the Ovesido Neal the O it's kind of about to say that it just it's just that quite good for me man it just it could it could use some rough which I get the cops when I give it though I thought like some of the par threes those guys got their hand in the cookie jar on I mean there was some good there was maybe not enough there were some challenging holes I thought that that made these guys tested the short game made them think a little bit

but overall yeah they just got a bomb and yeah the fourth hole in Saturday the back left pin Carl Phillips got got that was a crazy you'd ever see the tour really you know they're doing their best they push a couple whole locations that one on four a long par four those put it off the green chiped it off the other he was putting for birdie and made a triple on that hole which the other thing I'll say it's shout out to Houston I felt like a good yeah atmosphere out there like not like

crazy crowded where it would be like no fun but it looked like man here on the like plenty of people on the road blinds just just good I don't know good energy you know broadcast a little sleepy but

hey man it's two weeks before yeah we knew that that is that's what we signed up for that's a

lot of what we signed up for this year podcast ready we knew that would be a sleepy we knew that which brings me to my next question in a in a future world like we're in a clear lull here between players and masters it's hard to get ample for valspar uh used in Valero something that you know unique features in all of them that are not make them auto skips obviously but should there be this weekend in the in a future PGA tour world if there's going to be three tournaments between

the players and the masters should the tour focus on having a big event this weekend does that make sense it's a good question i mean i'm going to play the uno reverse card because i feel like

solid doesn't get to answer the questions first very often and i'm going to say solid why don't

you tell us your opinion thank you Randy it's time for a fucking question you guys uh i think i think i think they should i mean we have a stretch of five of six signature events and majors here coming up and you know granted the entire PGA tour schedules a big director said and it's not easy to unwind and and just move stuff around at will but i think deraille would be pretty darn great if we're going to do deraille which is not my favorite golf course uh that would make sense in this

spot with a big field now i think what they're going to run into the problem here is having the signature event right after the masters and wanting to leave players with the option open to play the week before if they want to as well so now you're talking four in a row for some guys and you know

that's something that's why there's probably not one but it does feel like you know maybe

could you add another week in between the players and masters and then you get one you get a signature event three weeks ahead of the masters and then the two week lol it just feels like three week lol is a lot in this time period yeah but not easy solution it's more i would zoom out even farther it's like what do you think is a better best practice do you like line them up like bay hill and players and have back-to-back big tournaments and then a break or do you go like one big tournament

week off like every other week you have a signature event you see what i'm trying to say yeah like i i almost think you got it because like i mean it's got to be a break somewhere so you're

saying you're basically saying that you think three weeks is too long yes and i think i just think

this time of year is you were kind of teetering on the edge starting weather starting to get better people start getting outside like the you know golf is big this time of year engagement week to week on the pgator is big when major start it dips a fair amount in between weeks and it's like just could you squeeze one more in this time period and lead up into the masters again it's not perfect it's not clean if you're keeping herded it will be after masters as a signature event in a new

world which is not a guarantee i don't think i mean the rbc could be alternating between Canadian open and and heritage being signature events for all we know but i i think this would

Not there's going to be changes in 2028 and it would not surprise me if there...

this weekend two weeks in front of the masters it's my overall point but something else would

have to change downstream as well i mean you could you could talk me into lightening up the signature load and in may yeah and moving one to march for sure yeah i just like that yeah like the Miami truest pgj and pgj and pgj and pgj and pgj and pgj chips like uh you know little just get some pads like I'd rather go play golf look i'm taking a week off of one of those yeah you know i saw him with you i i just like the calendar itself like yeah this is probably

a better place to capitalize then you think about yeah like college basketball it's like okay it's still sweet 16 a late which is good you know good tv but a good golf

tournament on right now with him i would would watch for sure i'm for sure i think just to just

to add to this i this hurts me to say but i think harbour town being a sick event probably doesn't make sense i would i would ship that signature event into this space so anyone said to be sleepy here well no i've actually loved seeing all the top guys play harbour town but it's just like man everybody's coming down from masters week like that doesn't have to be a signature event i i will say though if the schedule does remain as currently construed i think this is

a great opportunity for a new and revamped l pgj schedule to put a really interesting event or to into this space for all of the reasons you state it you know it's it's kind of the the height of a lot of people's golf watching um and so i i think it would be a good opportunity for the women to have a great event and i don't think the four championship at least at that golf course is it but we're going to talk about that no doubt you didn't think what do you think wild horse

pass water or the field i think wild horse pass tapped out Thursday morning but

a lot of pass got i got Ethan i was on the track got you eat it well get there other news and

notes blades brown solo third on the court fairy tour this week now projected up in the 22nd

in the standings very very early stay in the court series wait i had the dual screen on yeah and man it was it was like nobody was out at that it till you got like 17 18 at the club car championship uh kind of fun fun golf to watch though like uh i have watched a lot of corn fairy and that was uh good stuff what was up with Ian did you see Ian Gilligan had was wearing a backwards hat did you see that is the other trying to grow the game or did you see that clip i didn't see

that clip now i saw it in passing um ready what got a backwards hat on right now i'm just growing that game yeah what is firing generations then i just want to you know put a you know my my my squad jute planks we gave it a great run it was great season come no one really believed in us but unfortunately they fell short and then in the finals and the so-fi cup on Tuesday and yeah obviously with what's on I can't can't transition it to to what happened my tiger in

later part of the week but it was it was funnier it was going to be funnier to use and as this this season uh before the incident that happened later but uh tough effort with you know then they had to vamp like two hours afterwards because they were planning on to go three which didn't seem very well sketched car so it's like what is up with this trophy ceremony this is so bad and she was like why are we still watching what do we do like a sports center on site here that's making me laugh

other of my wife comes into the top rope on some of this stuff yeah i can't believe they didn't fix it like you it's I know green golf you're telling me you can't put the fix in on that to stress back on why invested so heavily into one of the founders the league's team i thought they had to have the fix and so uh at the hero indian open a you handier or you is it a you handier or you genio brand you it's a you handio swore as well i'm caught up on it yeah for a beloved a you handio swore as

I can't atly now i don't know you're making a thing i think deals the expert here is it you know what are pint you tell me are you how to you chakara hit a three run home or to win the game for the reds now he took a foreshot leading the final round but it's Alex Fitzpatrick

wins the first time on the dp world story one by two shots over chakara he actually doubled the

final hole to still win by two shots final round 69 was bested only by Matteo Manacero the final round scoring average was 76.1 he was six back playing the sixth hole doubles 18 to win by

two like that's how volatile the scoring wasn't how bad chakara fell apart Fitzpatrick pretty

six eight nine eleven twelve thirteen fifteen and seventeen i'm in caught up on this with the highlights

Uh my god dlf man it's so in also the Fitzpatrick brothers in general don't g...

for the fedora five just as a unit i wonder what are we doing um we should have we should have

phoned tc for an update on the fedora five this week because i've seen a package deal right there get him on the list um dlf man it i thought about this the whole i was like watching the flyovers

the holes and watching all the highlights and everything do you remember that video that was going around

i think it was a couple years ago um like the caption on twitter was like nothing prepared me for what were they were going to show when they when they zoomed out and it was Jim it was Jim justice on stage with his dog uh at some rally or something that's how i feel every time they show a highlight of an approach out into a green at dlf it's just like whoa what is that next to the green like a fake rock out cropping like oh the next tolls got a link all the next tolls got

a massive like skyscraper apartment building all the next we've got phone wall bunkers that are about 15 feet high it's so absurd about you're pushing the the art forward i'm i'm i'm way in man like you gotta you gotta create an identity in this world who is playing this golf course week to week they should they need to have more pro events at this god and there's all the pros only should be pros play this golf course ever it looks so freaking impossible 17th hole is

completely outrageous 18 that hole is at this looks like a golden t-hole uh it's it's i watched

about i'll get all the drone flyovers i was like i think i thought i was just on a roller coaster

and i need to throw up like i i'm a little nauseous uh after watching all this talk to me jals out there through the trophy i mean it's good stuff man i think they can do night golf there if i'm reading their website correctly i'd be grateful for you know getting on a decent window yeah yeah yeah if they care about that what an unbelievable place you're right yeah uh shikara man he is such a weird golfer to watch he's extremely unconventional like if you go back and watch the highlights

like his chip on eleven is just like it looked like area jutanigar and randy last year it chepron just like just stabbing at it uh he puts with a broomstick with a glove on and it

doesn't it doesn't look natural i mean finish second place exactly incredible player like to do

to be able to do all that while looking as unconventional as it does like it just that jumps off the screen to me uh when you watch him is like this it looks very uncomfortable uh he would look very comfortable today trying to close out a lead on that golf course would be an absolute nightmare and he had a very tough final round but uh he's he's entertained to watch that's for sure and we're probably gonna see it back on the pgator here the very soon not back on pgator first time

we'll see on the pgator here very soon so i look forward to it i that's honestly the

most exciting review i think you could have given it yeah about somebody i will be tuning in he hits the shit out of it we know that randy you want to take us to the uh to the wild horse yeah uh it's a wild horse that did not win this week it's um just kind of a non-descript definitely a left did win but it's a wild horse did not win yeah yeah wild horse non-descript desert golf course but this was the four championship and boys in case you didn't get enough

of heo juke him in belly court a dueling last week uh they played all four rounds together this week meaning they've played their last six competitive rounds together heo juke i'm just gonna call our H.A.K.M for the purposes of brevity she shot uh opening 61 she went 61 69 61 1 came into Sunday with a four shot lead over nellie courta uh Kim was chasing an L.P.G.A. scoring record of 32 under over four days she would not get there but she would win the tournament

it looked like we're gonna have a little you know reminiscing of last week nellie chasing her

down making things interesting nellie eagle the par five second she birdied the fifth and the seventh

that got her all the way up to 25 under heo juke though uh she had a good start around she birdied the fourth to fifth and the seventh she got up to 28 under par uh and then on the eighth hole Kim ran into trouble self-inflicted she doubled she dropped back to 26 under and was just one clear of nellie heading to the ninth hole and then unfortunately uh nellie quickly gave it away she bogey the ninth bogey the tenth her bogey on nine she missed like a little three and a half

foot slider uh not the easiest put but just indicative of some of the the short misses we've seen from nellie um and so after that bogey on ten uh the the lead was back up to four shots and it really

Didn't ever got tighter the rest of the way i em finished at 28 under i will ...

she eagle 17 birdied 18 to finish at 26 under two shots back it's actually nellie's lowest

full-round total of her career but it wasn't good enough today uh i will note nellie bogey

the 15th hole she missed like a dead straight two footer for par and so just again like she just throws in enough of these little miss puts that i don't know i'm i'm still really nervous and it just gives me pause and i feel like she's gonna the the puddings gonna be a problem at some point in a bit. Let's just get him out of the system at the forward you know on on the road to eleven rock rather i'd rather they happen now Randy than at chevron or later that's true at the US woman's

open and any of these five majors that's one way to look at it um so let me just say showed you

Kim this was her second win in as many starts she won the founders cup last week it's her ninth

career L PGA victory uh she defended her title from 2025 at the forward championship and just some stats one thing and i do want to ask you guys about this in just a second mel read was in the booth uh serving as the analyst this week and mel was saying you know what he'll do is such a consistently good ball striker i mean her swing it's like a metronome it's just hard to imagine or not hitting the golf ball well and so when she puts well she can go on runs like this where she's

truly one of the best players in the world and coming into Sunday she led the PGA L PGA in puts per green in regulation at 1.66 puts per green in regulation and to go along with she's hitting 83.3% of her fairways and 73.6% of her green so it's just a really really good combination right now for for uh heo juke him we'll see if she can keep it going next week um i'll be curious you know trying to win three weeks in a row is is certainly difficult but man she looked good this week after

winning last week i do want to ask you guys about mel read uh i think personally you know we talked a

little bit last week about morgan pressle in the booth i just don't think morgan's it and i think that was reinforced listening to mel read this week i think there is such a golf between those two in the analyst role i think mel is somebody that just her voice like her pitch her in her inflection like not even counting the insights and i think she gives us way better insights than morgan she just enhances the telecast and so sawly i know you were watching you i don't know how much of

this you caught but like sawly do you feel the same like i just feel like it's night and day like mel read this is who the old p_g_a_ needs to target with this revamped uh and strategic like rethinking of their broadcast i completely agree i think she is extremely in touch with players on tour she's just a natural she's been on the podcast a couple times and like it's just very good at shooting straight helps to have an accent it really does i i really does it really does it's really does

rag though too i saw good like social clips and yeah she's out there she's cool and uh she's a five breakdown was really good i saw that i caught that today of melry swing um yeah i'm no no notes for any was what you said she can be yeah she i don't know i i just think it's like dude this is so obvious so i'll be really curious how this keeps developing i hope they keep giving mel opportunities uh in the booth on the old p_g_a_ tour because it is night and day let me let me talk about

nelly quarter then real quick um she's having a well i guess this is the question hot i want to take you guys i i'd like for you to give me a temp check on nelly's twenty twenty six she won

her first start which was in or lando at the tournament of champions which had the controversial

the cut play you know Craig castler talked about it sawly when you interviewed him tough decision uh so we're gonna bring him in don't bring him in just talk about it for a third time maybe

so i think there's like a bit of like yeah nelly won but it's like yeah that wasn't like an actual

event and uh she skipped the whole agent swing and so she finished runner up to h_j_ last week she finishes runner up to h_j_ this week like she's been beaten by one woman across three tournaments i i think this is like really good signs for nelly thanks randy she stinks she cannot get

It done cannot finish like she hasn't won she still missing some shorty so i ...

it's tough it's it it it my instinct i was being sarcastic i was like that is where my instinct

goes of like what you didn't put up a fight today and you didn't put put up that consistent of fight last week what happened but it's hard you're going up against you know you delete one person out of it and the one person doesn't get on like a career hot heater right now like h_j_j kept and she wins probably wins back to back events and we're like oh here we go again there's a two and some three starts that for sense of i don't know or the other optimistic look is it she's

looks like scottie pre-mallet that's interesting and that's a big question is like on the road to a ladder you can walk real change let's go yeah we're running out of time um it's it's so hard

randy and i know this i don't want to you know trigger you more than you already are about this topic

but like the stats of the l_p_j_s_ we're working off of caddy estimates on on put length and and everything and like it does tell a bad story about her putting this this week but it also the ball striking it also tells a story of like historically good so i'm like adam maybe the ball striking isn't as good it is it's probably somewhere in between i don't think the putting i don't think you get to leave like i don't think you physically can get to that far under par

and be that negative with putting over a 72 holes but um it is it there's enough of these it like puts that she misses and against lot of her golf from television we see a lot more of that than you know it when when hit on you doesn't it's not in in the picture we don't see all of her mispots you know it just how it flows so it paints a different picture and you do get a i i think if you're asking me tomorrow i like to zoom out it's not like we're just playing

excellent golf right now if you're asking me this evening i'm still a little bit like

man what the hell was that those two mispots were terrible you should you know that golf course

should have fit you well and you should have had bad times too like a knack for those but right happening at inflection points like when it's oh what am i stopping to the two-shot swing whatever it is yeah i'm i'm with you guys completely it's i i think where i net out though it's like it's really nice to see Nelly knocking on the door to win it i mean she did win in Orlando's but uh after going all last year without winning it's like holy shit like

this cannot continue into twenty twenty six and it hasn't to her credit she she's playing very very good golf so i yeah i'm i'm bullish um if you will can i just go down the leaderboard real quick i don't i it's not gonna be TC which is calling out a few names here uh Lydia co had a look at fifty nine on Thursday morning before coverage uh and they were like no cameras out on the course friend of the pod Bethany Nichols have that gen i just get in uh Chad Coleman's ass and

i i feel bad for chags it's like yeah i haven't been on the job too long like i don't

drive yeah like this is what we're trying to fix i think that these guys are legitimately like

dude no threat do it do it shred that will help us get things down like shred us like you can say this march didn't feel very major on the lpg so yeah you know and i i i'm not playing with Chad or the this week last week was great i thought yeah just a little bit like yeah it's just not where it needs to be though overall just like with right TV hover you know all of it i just don't do a good job of bringing in an american audience in January February march which are like prime golf

watching months for most of this country but uh Lydia co she she did not she fifty nine

she ended up shooting 60 on Thursday i think a bit of a rally killer solace her second third

rounds weren't great she did end the week at twenty under par solo fourth play so it's a good week for Lydia co um and i just want to shout me me roads uh young english woman rookie this year on the lpg a tour had a great year on the lbt last year she was tied for six this week it's

her best finish of the season so just admit to keep an eye on for folks i i think she we're gonna

hear from her this year uh rosang shot 66 today she snuck into the top ten as a uh tied for ninth so good good result i'll remind folks rosang twenty two years old i think sometimes i feel like she's 26 27 she's 22 still so she graduated good things uh i don't think so officially i just actually not sure or more years it should be just stay up to these and release her come on guys i know get a diploma get out of there uh in the tide for 34th cohort you had three big names lotty

Wode running in an angelian genotidicum finished tied for fifty and i think t...

unbecoming especially because like a birdy fess golf course is where she typically has really

shown um so not a good week for genot need more from her and then the world number three charlie hall the world number six mu yamashita they both miss the cut that's especially damming this week um

oh yeah tell them randy amateur asterix tally she had a nice week i think she found it up

finishing tied for twenty nine uh good warm up she's gonna head to agusta this crazy i've played 18 holes with her like uh i was at three weeks and got two weeks ago i she should sit at the ball band so i heard she's moving it more oh my god she we i'm tracking it she's like carried it to ninety i mean she was yes i'm not no joke man it was crazy i mean we were at altitude uh it was in the desert so like the uh uh desert mountain like by Scottsdale but i mean she

she hits the shed of it uh she's super fun too i i had blast this up here in the net yeah she was all

jacked up about going to that sage valley that's like that big junior invitational uh and i think these it's like oh i think it's twenty or thirty kid like boys twenty thirty girls like nope they stay there like the parents it's like uh they all look forward to it you know like all these like just some fun and gul just as much as the gul exactly so yeah it was hang out it's great it's like best event of the year so uh anyway got video of that coming out and probably early

May and pretty good miles Russell's gonna be on the bag for uh at the at the anwa which is p that uh yeah i could picture that like ten years from now being the photo that we see like the

JT speed when that we see like on reality because i think Russell's on his way to a lot of

a lot of golf success so yeah this week fun week on the women's side uh obviously anwa at a gusta that's gonna start midweek and then uh on the LPGA there it's a joint LPGA LET event at Shadow Creek in Vegas and i just want to if you have not watched in the years past they had a match play event at Shadow Creek and then last year was stroke it's in outrageous golf course and you see a lot of wild shit it's kind of like the indie event this week on the uh on the dp world tour so

that's one i'm very excited to watch stroke play from Shadow Creek next week uh that that should be a good time so it's kind of hit on the women's side one of the more boring tournaments quite honestly more boring venues of the year i like the west coast like i did like legitimately look forward to settling into watch at the evening though like after kids go down like the west coast night viewing that's just the personal phase of my life currently like i i'm really enjoying the west coast i

hope they end up on the west coast when they debris do the schedule still in this time period so i got one last little segment then we'll do some odds and ends here um Adam Schupeck got a good article this week on golf week just asked he asked well about 8 or 9 guys 10 guys maybe uh at a gust of master's players or past champions but they would well a design change they would make to a gust of national i'm going to read just some of these uh if you all allow it

hair single said blow the fifth green and blow up the fifth green and start over just a quick like that one Craig Stadler said to toughen it up a bit i would put two bunkers just before it bends at the par five thirteen throw at the edge of the pine straw that would be a pretty good defense they don't have to turn the ball there anymore they hit it down the left of the little cut and carry it three ten and they're getting another 20 yards of roll they're hitting eight irons in

there something like the bunkers they uh they added left of five something that you absolutely not get to the green if you hit it in there they'd move the t-back 40 yards there and they're still hitting six seven eight irons in so it didn't do much for them so he's saying up on the on the right on the right yeah okay yeah yeah outside the dog leg yeah i don't think they're going to do that yeah that's an interesting thought i don't think they're hitting eight irons in there

and they're still more from him coming later this week much more from the wall or it's coming soon Keegan Bradley would make thirteen a little shorter i might agree with Keegan on this one

i think introducing a little bit of temptation around that corner is is now it is just like

drive it straight down there and it's almost making them think she i hit three wood or driver because you're going to you know really got out of room it's just kind of putting a little bit of thought of can i get a little bit can i cheat a little bit farther left you know i attempted to go there but now you're just not tempted nearly as much like you almost just can't so

larym wise i would take the first cut out and let the ball run i like it when it run into the

pine straw way down without one side was sounds good yeah i would find your petition laryr ricky fowler i'd replace aches tree i just think about how prominent it was visually and then

Not that it was intimidating but there was a presence there it'd be nice if s...

back to what that was it made that t-shirt visually a lot easier yeah it seventeen has no identity

there you go you get an indina i'd like for it he's the answer until he said it visually it makes it a lot easier i'm like yeah i don't want that but it's a good point saw it said i know distances becoming an issue but the new t-boxes at eleven thirteen and fifteen seem unnecessary and now they don't want twenty underwinning the masters but at thirteen for instance they take it away some of the intended design of the whole and the risk reward again let's show a lot of these

i'd just be like well the technologists the problem here guys and yeah 15 used to make sense as a wide hole but now it doesn't and you know put yep that's an hour-long conversation uh Jason Day the new t-on thirteen makes it way harder i don't think it's needed wrong rationale there but i don't disagree with it i kind of still agree that it should be up a little bit farther but you know making it hard isn't a reason out to do it rare dubbed exact johnson i don't have

a problem with it but i just wish i could have played a gust of national one there was no intermediate rough known as the first cut i don't know if it would make it easier or harder i got some good

take i think it would make it more interesting would love to just see it again you know like let's

let's watch it a masters with with no roof wind them clock i'd fix the fifth hole the green was designed to have a wedger nine nine and now we're in five irons to agreement slopes away from you and you can't hold uh Gary player said nothing i mean wind them's got make it a put the fifth

green if you never been there it is outrageous it's ridiculous it doesn't come yeah or on tv maybe

well that's where my question's gonna be what what change would you make and i'll go first there because that's where i would start is the fifth hole supposed to be a replica of the road hole at sane Andrews which you would never like that's like exactly that's like was the original intent of the hole it's still listed on the website there if you go to the fifth hole saying it was put is inspired by the road hole at sane Andrews i don't see it at all now but if it is again this

one goes right to left the road hole kind of goes left to right and has a green side bunker

left of the green so if you're kind of inspired by that i think a bunker front right like there's a

bunker long of five green they're like that bunker should be in front of the green kind of to the right

where if you are bailing way right you know grain of the head trees and things that make it

difficult for you to bail way right you don't you can't just bail way right as it stands but you could widen that a little bit if you wanted to but if you play up the right you are going to have to navigate the bunker a lot more than if you play down the left closer to the bunker that would be more road hole exchange of value in that you could do a bunch of cool pins around the front near that and have the angle be a little better from the left side of that fairway it with

some of the pins if you got creative with it that would make more sense than the fifth hole as it stands now i don't necessarily agree with when i'm Clark Green growing price in eight nine irons into that in the final round i think there's a lot of five irons going into that green still from the longer hitters but it is kind of just a messed up green and hole it just doesn't really a big yeah it's just kind of just hard for the sake of hard could be better yeah yeah so

that's kind of like it's kind of interesting it's a tough hole to watch too because you know a lot of times you don't see the guys on the approach like if you're sitting by the fifth Green just from a viewer standpoint it's not the most exciting place to watch golf it's just it's a really difficult hole it's a striking green but like they can't even a lot of them can't even see the ball coming into the green so like the massive elephants in that green you don't you know there's

not a lot of drama there there's a lot of car wrecks but not drama it is it says on the website the holes inspired by the legendary roadhole of the old course at Saint Andrew's Bobby Jones initially disapproved of the fairway bunkers it's just a funny thing that's on the on the gust of website for the life of me i can't figure out how it's inspired by the roadhole but

I guess that I think another you'd have to go way back to the origin and I don't have the image in

front of me yeah but anyways rainbow but you're changed be thought about I feel like this one's kind of a common one something to do at number three and just making it more of a true like risk reward drivable par four but that's not my answer I'm not I'm not going there go and T.C. here you know I have long had issues with the 16th hole and so let me present this this adjustment and see if you guys like it I would I I thought long and hard about this I think I would get rid of the

bunker on the left side of the green and kind of make that sloping all into the water to where if you're gonna go you know if you're gonna be aggressive and you know be left of that

Ridge or get at that pin you know that kind of that back pin I don't want the...

catch basin and almost a safety outlet for shots I want I want real severe damage if you missed the

green left and so that way I think a lot more guys are gonna play further right up up the ridge

missing right and when that pins down at the bottom it's just a lot trickier of a hole and I think it rewards the shots that do catch the ridge that do funnel down that they would be more meaningful to me so I I suggest getting rid of that bunker left of 16 green I think that's that's the right answer I was sniffing around 16 as well I would shrink the lake bring the the crowd closer in make the you make the the patrons right on top of because I don't like ponds are on becoming creeks are better

you know I think that used to be a creek I just always found that pond to be able to just a little

bit of like man like it's a cool environment obviously a lot of action happens there but I just would like to make the pond smaller I think is where I would go with that one of the greatest pieces of media golf media ever put together and I'm being like in the show notes is golf digest the

comprehensive list of changes made to a gust in national I look at it every year you're exactly

so the green used to there was a creek there and the green used to actually sit left of that creek and it was moved in 1948 by Robert Trent Jones to the right and and that formed upon and that bunker wasn't there in 1948 Randy they put the bunker in in 1949 because he raised the height of the

back terrace added a tiny third bunker on the left he also dammed and piped underground a stream

that it previously split the T-box blah blah blah blah and there's all kind I mean the bunk it's evolved a lot over the years kind of the shape of that shape of that green and the mows and all that stuff but anyways that I love that splitting a T-box is cool I mean so all you know my answer is is 17 but not I won't go that's cool in there Randy I'm interested you you don't like three I think three's a great whole no no I like three I just wish it was more it seems like nobody can

actually get there with driver I just yeah I feel like we talk about every year like almost make it more reachable so yeah more risk or more reward I don't know what

the 11th hole I wish it was it's it's an awesome hole but it's like something's missing for

to it for me like it's just like guys are bailing out so much to the right it's like should they do shorten it so they I don't know like again introduce the the risk of or I don't know let them maybe even like let them blow it farther right so they can get an angle to like tempt them into you know taking on the green a little bit more so they almost have more of a square angle and then you see more ball I just want to see more balls going the water on the left

on 11th I don't know what the answer for that is but like the trees they took out like they they they took out of the hatchings down the right they have been doing okay I did well last year I just when I was there I just didn't feel like I saw a whole lot of of it is just bail out it's bail out to the every year it's like everyone is so scared to take on that green and I'm like well I don't I'm not you know golf architecture guy to know what how to I don't know tempted to see it more

yeah so in 20 again this is a metaphorical in 2022 they did to adjust the tree line on the right side to discourage competitors from intentionally bailing out to the right pine straw for a better angle to the green so now you can't go as far right you see able to drive it like you know do the tiger go way right and he like the bet angle and we said not the kitty litter but I guess that's what I'm saying I almost want that back I want more exciting approach shots into 11 and so if that

makes the whole easier I'm cool with that but like when was a lot I can't think of a time when a guy guys have gone into the water like Ludwig short like come up short but there's nobody's like running over the back or falling off like in the middle left of that green anymore and I think it's because it just doesn't make sense to even take it on when you hit the fairway there and it's like maybe maybe they just see like adjust the angle of the whole and that can be very

stupid but that's I want except 11 should have more excitement than it does I guess is what I'm trying to say well if you'll allow me you know I'll pull this up again and put on the screen like look at the angle of the hole in 1934 like a used a dog leg to the right like that was with a center line

bunker and now like you'd fit you advance ahead to 2022 it's like a straight hole now house I think

that's maybe what I'm what I'm getting at it it I like that it's very difficult it's just kind of a boring difficult and that's like five magical place on the course it'd be cool if there was a little I remember sitting that grandstand on I think Saturday but one like next to 11 green and it was like

In your watching 12 just not a lot of like exciting stuff was happening comin...

because it's just okay we're gonna see them you know and yes some good shots from the moguls on the right there but not not anybody flagging it or getting their hand on the cookie jar five and 11 go in that category of like they're kind of just hard for the sake of hard because you know the golf course kind of got easy you know that's kind of it so a lot of like non-descript bogies I almost wonder if you could instead of like connecting to raise creek behind the green almost run a creek in front

of 11 which I think they use I'm reading the master's website said prior to 1950 raised creek

ran in front of the 11th green and almost like wrapping around the back side of 11 like the right side as you look at it to raise creek just to make that bailout more like interesting I guess or yeah thoughtful I don't know it looks like it used to just kind of run like it wasn't a pond it just kind of ran I split and ran a little left a little left of the green if you can see

that there okay so never truly like came across that cross all right I'm telling you this this

article is just amazing to flip through and you do wonder if they'll ever you know if a restoration of any kind is ever in the cards like a lot of 11 would be a whole little but change greatly if they did so yeah as I try to land the plane here couple final things the rory master's documentary is out probably if you listen to this now it's out sometime on Monday the

March 30th I did get chance to watch a screener of this one it's good it's good documentary it's

it's fun it's it's a it's a lot like the chronicles of a champion that you see on the open championship stuff you know little over an hour long interviews with the champion talking about emotions and look back on the childhood definitely learned some stuff specifics about rory's childhood and and what is upcoming was like you know directly from the sources on it it is it's fast for a documentary to come out you know less than a year after the event that happened but there is there's

some good vulnerability in there from rory on like how in I don't not spoiling anything here if you you're if you plan to watch it but just how you know how Augusta was in his head like very clearly it is it's it's a it's definitely a weird vibe though of having to be produced by rory's production company and every documentary now it is it's weird there's no like it's it's it's maybe we're just using the phrase documentary a little little too loose late now because jack isn't it

but there's no other you know player appears really in it in any way and and and not a lot talking heads and not a lot of you know voices it's it's a lot of rory's dad rory's mom rory and a little bit of jack in there kind of narrating it and talking and then jacks but it it I don't know if it needed to come out this soon but it's worth your time it gets worth watching it's not going to blow you away it's not

like amazing thing but I think it just a weird thing to kind of be in such a rush to get this out

this quickly but I get the time I mean I guess the timing makes sense of with with the masters well yeah but I mean less than just like it you know this is quick like we haven't forgotten about this you know and they didn't they didn't have the shot into 17 and it in this maybe in the maybe they changed but the approach I'd hit to the 17 in regulation was not in it for some reason but you know obviously you don't get a look into a gust of national like this you know a next Amazon has

coverage now of the masters that's why this likely exists but you get you know right you know

rights to footage and stuff from the masters is not something we've seen outside of things that a gust of has produced you know obviously there's the the SPN shark documentary that they did which I think was probably I was stronger than than this one I think is just because there's not

you know this this happened the what made the shark one really interesting is the guy never got one

right right what makes this one less interesting is now this exists because he finally gets one you know it would have been a bit more interesting last year of like what the document you know the journey is like to try to get one of these but anyways it's it's worth your time it's worth watching and and fun this I mean this feels like one truly for the rory fans right like just live it all again which is great like this thing should exist I remember I bought Phil's book you know one magical

Sunday why winning is in everything after you won the masters it's like you just want to read it all yeah yeah oh via your world series shirts right yeah the the old like sports little straight hey our team just won the title here's your commemorative video yeah I'm not ready to watch any of it Sally I don't know I'm gonna remember it in your head

I kind yes here so I've watched the broadcast so I'm just I feel like that wo...

me I'm gonna abstain at at this moment any housekeeping updates you want to give us Neil

yeah we got some good stuff of the pro shop right now we got a good hat sale going on if you navigate

to the buy more save more collection on the top navigation bar you know it's going to be an adventure but I more save more I didn't come up with this one we got a bunch of hats on sale so those hats in that collection if you buy two or more you save an additional 250 on each hat and these are auto discounts Randy they'll just they'll trigger on their own okay love to load them up in the cart if you buy five or more hats on sale you can add additional five dollars off all five of

the five more more of those hats and these hats are already we're trying to these are price to move Randy okay we had we had a lot of good hats in there but we just have a lot of them and we're trying to try to clean out we're doing a little spring clean it so there's a good little blown up on the on the right now to move baby let's go so get in there you can stack your nest code with with that the auto discounts will hit and then you can plug in your nest code come on man

you know I don't like doing sales Randy but you know I do like when people take advantage of sales that makes me happy so good take advantage of that store dot no laying up dot com we've also got

the holdeness and born spring collection there we got some new rowback apparel in there and a first

major themed apparel some fun t-shirts some some green some yellows you know you you kind of you figure out what the first major collection is all about Randy okay store dot no laying up dot com solid what do we have to clear yeah what is this that call it yeah first share we have ready notice the drill come on what's what's going on the annual you pod we did a best master's draft this past week which was a lot of fun some controversy not really controversy some some faux controversy

come from some bizarre unhinged stuff coming from the mouth of T.C. this week stop the steel man really yeah the best one of the best comments I saw this week was T.C. could still wait if Mike Pence has the courage to do what's right go back listen that that we've got a lot of feedback for that one that was a lot of fun T.C. did not wait I'm just spoiled that part of it then got it potentially a couple masters appetizers coming this coming week at least one potentially

I'm almost certainly two masters appetizers coming this coming week of course as we turn the

page over to the first major of the year Randy what about the trap draw what's cooking well

listen baseball's back opening day last Thursday happy opening day to all those who celebrate the seamsters were talking ball we we quickly covered every team we did a draft where we all picked we drafted all 30 teams and then chose whether we wanted to go over under their their total win so it was good vehicle to talk a little bit about each club we settled on some of our favorites there were some disagreements just just a good time good to be talking ball again good dev baseball back

had a little challenge this to minute which I thought was great I'm loving it you guys didn't ask me how the ring ceremony was for my chances when in the fantasy baseball league last year we had a great opening day we thought that might just be general now well that's my GM and you know what he got a nice fat bonus everybody's happy things are great on on on the on the chances good yeah and he picks that you're regretting from your draft so far I wish I would have picked up a closer thanks for

asking so no I meant for the practice yeah I think DJ was a scumbag for putting the reds first

on the board and I was too chicken to challenge him I should have gone over on the reds I do think they're going to be at least a 500 ball club how about you I don't think I regret anything just yet yeah no I mean maybe the cubs that's that's the one projections not looking so good I go corner getting paid a lot of money anyways no trade clause too hey big news it a couple weeks big special project coming out on the on the trap draw a project on you coming back at you

think we'll put that out master's week so look out for that DJ and I I spent a lot of time doing dumb research which I'm really excited about yeah good good stuff what what's he guys chopping this week Randy yeah TC and I are chopping and then I think after that we'll be the project on you with with you and DJ yeah and then I think while we're golfs returning on YouTube this week

this week or next I think it's this week two part while we're changing it up a little bit okay I think

I was going to say yeah yeah Randy couldn't make the trip with us so it's a little bit different

In the spirit of kind of spoofing a broadcast we're spoofing a show so I'm re...

forward to the feedback on this one there'll be a lot of like these guys have changed it can't

believe they missed with this format don't worry we'll bring that back to but this I think this

is going to be a good one two part series I think Wednesday Thursday this week look out for

wildwater golf yeah and please people I beg of you it's a bit like we're just we're this is a

fun this is a bit I bet if you not not not we're sure the video mookies and go okay it's a bit

all right we're having fun with with with with this format it was a lot of fun I'm excited about it

I'm excited to watch because as he said he wasn't on the trip I was on the paternity

PGA tour this week the laero on the LPGA tour has mentioned the ramco championship LPGA LAT co lab

a corn fairy tour is off to Lakewood National for the Lee Combson coast classic D.P. and World Tour and live are off until after the masters at gusts of national women's emitter begins Wednesday rounds one and two at champions retreat then onto a gust of national on Saturday after a practice round on Friday anything else before we go guys Randy I told you to be less than two hours week barely got another gun. Thank you everyone for tuning in look forward to we'll see back

here this week and almost major season almost here crack on. Cheers!

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