1199: 1995 PGA Tour Season Deep Dive

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Solly here, 1995, P.J. Tour season deep dive. Don't need to do a big intro of all that. We're going to get right into that. Want to give a shot, though.

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“I'm honestly just having so much fun playing golf again because I'm in the middle of the fairway.”

A lot more often. Play a course here. Quite often that has, you know, OB water all over the place. And I still pull driver and I don't even fear it. I don't think about it anymore, which is just man.

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Thank you for tuning in. Enjoy the podcast title.com to find a fitter near you. Episode two of our PGA tour season deep dyes or PGA tour. Simps. We are obligated to go through these year by year.

Spend hours talking about this. DJ, how are you? What are we doing today? Hey, I'm great man. We're going to be diving into the 1995 PGA tour season.

A season I know very, very little about.

“Obviously a lot of these, you know, who won the majors.”

That's kind of about it. You know, the rest of pro golf. I'm a free tiger, there's a lot of sand shifting. It's kind of a blank space for me. So I'm looking forward to filling it in.

I've done no research on this. I'm here audience. I am your proxy. I'm your avatar. I'm going to try to ask the questions that you're sitting there asking.

You know, solid just maybe smash a protein bar before I got on. Before I got on this, I don't know if it's enough. I'm just I'm real in right now, but I'm excited to get going.

I'm going to be covering the first six months of the year and the back six months

of the year is going to be covered by Mr. Neal Schuster, hello Neal. Gentlemen, hooking my head out of the warm hole. The deep dark wormhole that I've crawled down the last three days. Warm hole or rabbit hole. Because wormholes are like how you time travel.

A lot of people mess this up. Well, grab like time travel. Yeah. I'm going to say wormhole. All right.

We will go to the mines. Yeah, turn it up, Dege. I got some action for you. I'm going to put you on the spot, Dege. You led this with everybody knows who won the majors.

Who won the majors in 95 without looking? Can you, can you, can you read it off? Ben Crenshaw for one of the masters. The US Open was Leroy Jansson. Is that right?

No. 95. Where was it? Well, we can't, if that would give it away. I mean, give it to you.

A lot of references to it. Very recent. Shot of the slide. Oh, wait. Oh, Corey Paven?

Yeah. Yeah, okay. I thought that was 94. No, that was our deal. Okay.

Corey Paven. Of course. PGA. Yeah. I don't know the PGA.

And then the, the open was John Daley. Correct. Who won the PGA? Elk. Oh, right.

Riviera. Yeah. Share that. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows that.

Yeah. On a man alive can clip me on the back nine after eating a custard like that. So some backstory here. Again, we're going to dive in in 1995.

I always wanted to do these deep dives on just like a year in golf.

And we're kind of focusing on PGA tour, men's professional golf. And back in the day when we started this, I threw a dart at the wall. Land on 95, you know, when we started this, we started doing the research for that. When quickly figured out that like 1994 would make more sense as a starting point. And if you want, and I would recommend this episode, 1,117.

Because as soon as we started researching 95, you're like, you're picking up.

“Some major storylines mid story, which we're going to continue today.”

But it was helpful to go back and get to 94. 94. Finch and steps into the PGA tour job. Greg Norman's trying to start his world tour. The FTC is sniffing around the PGA tours.

Restrictive release clauses. Things are just happening. All right. They actually relate kind of a ton. I would say a lot of things mirror what's happened in men's golf.

The last five years as well, which was what makes this conversation quite, made it quite fun to dive in in 94. Everything we've done, Neil. And everything we will do. Time is a flat circle.

I will stay over. And it's not to spoil anything. But things get wrapped up a lot quicker. Oh, my gosh. Ninety-five.

Finch. So we're going to get into that. Another theme that I'd say 94 was international takeover. I think at least six of the top 10. Like the top six guys in the world were international, which kind of was some of the reason

Norman was able to get a little momentum on the world tour idea.

U.S. golf was just kind of in a transition phase. And then that starts to flip over pretty quick in 95. You start to, you know, see some, some names like Fiorek. You know, some, some got some dudes. Some guys start to, you know, show two tendencies.

Oh, there we go. Oh, there we go. Yeah.

“So I would say, I don't think you have to stop this right now.”

And go back and listen to 1994. You can do them out of order. But if you're looking to pass the time. I see no reason why you wouldn't start with that episode. And then, and then, and then do this one, but you can also just pick things up.

Because we're, yeah, we're going to get things running full straight. You know what? I'm not going to produce episode. But I'm going to say, let's drop the link to the. Yeah.

What episode was it? It's in the description. It's in the description. One one one seven. It's in the description.

Hopefully, here. Lincoln. That's right.

So cost nothing through that link in there.

Hopefully, you guys know where I was going to start this episode. Same way. I started the last one. Going into 1995. How many can you get?

Can you get who are the top 10 players in the world going into 1995? Should I let DJ answer this? Let him get, yeah, let him get going a little bit. I'll try to help you. Because I, I can get five of the 10.

These are in no particular order. Greg Norman. Number two. Tom Kai. Not on list.

Oh, tough start. Steve Alkington. Not on the list. Oh, God. I'm so bad.

I don't know. I'm just going down the court. Haven's number 10. You're, again, beginning in 95.

“You got to think about what we're about in 1994.”

Like Tom and Nick Price is right. One player in the world. Yeah. Bernie else. Bernie else's number seven.

I don't know. He'll help me out. Faldo. Faldo's number three. Yeah.

Burn out longer still. Burn out longer's number four. That's right. You got the top four. That's the best American at this.

At this love. Not Davis love. That's a good news. But not Davis love. Tom Layman.

Mark O'Rill. Fred couples. Number six. And then. And then.

He's he was struggling. At this point. A habitual manipulator. The one most infamous. WGR manipulators.

The original manipulator. I mean, it's not it's not jumbo is hockey. It is jumbo is hockey. It's still. Still.

It's still. And then one more one more European Scottish big order. Good. Good. That's it.

That's the top 10 in the world price. All right. Listen. I let you know those those of you who are driving. I'm supposed to be your proxy.

Maybe you did better than me. But this is hard. You know. It's hard. It turns the lights out.

How about what did you guys get? You know. So hard. I'm curious. How about you.

You got as you're driving your car to work there. The themes. A couple of themes here. John Daley. Still everywhere.

The needle. I mean, just a bunch of stories about his return to golf after some time off in 1994. Again, history repeating itself. World tours, greed, legal troubles for the PGA tour is the players a major. That was a conversation in 1995.

I'll pick you back. I wrap the new PGA tour. Leadership. Structure changes as it comes to exemptions and the overall number of cards on the PGA tour. TV contract is coming up.

Negotiations are set to begin at the end of next season. A ton of parallels to 20 to 26. If I may say so. But it's not like I also just a little. A couple of stats.

So like just a grow like kind of good overall growth in progress. Check before the tiger boom. And as Finchms taking the helm. So in 1984, under, you know, kind of in the primary early part of Dean Beman's leadership. 72 sanctioned PGA tour events.

So they didn't count the silly season back there. Some of the fall events didn't have like world ranking and count towards like money list stuff.

There's a hundred at the end of 94. 125 events. So that's champions tour. That's, you know, they started to expand out Nike tour. So more playing opportunities, which is a mandate of the, you know, of the organization.

First money for the PGA tour. And 84. It was 26.5 million.

That would be 85 million adjusted inflation in today's money.

94 is a hundred and seven point three million, which is about 235 million inflation adjusted.

“And then total annual charitable contributions, which is going to be important as we get into some of this stuff.”

In 84 9.4 million, so 30 million inflation adjusted. And then in 94, 31.7 million. So 71.4 million dollars raised for charity at the inflation adjusted number. So big. That's all the tours. That's for all the tours.

But just to show you that business is booming. It's getting bigger and this is pretty tiger. So that's some people are starting to take note of. Hey, yeah, maybe a little bit. Maybe I need a little extra.

Ah, I'm carrying this tour, you know, maybe some sharks circling if you will. You know, maybe some of the government like, hey, wait a second. We're giving these guys some breaks. Maybe we shouldn't be doing that. So anyway, back to you, Solid.

Well, and to your point 62.9 million is the, the actual purse total on the PGA tour for 1994.

And we are going to more than double that in the next four years.

“That's, that's what's coming around the corner.”

But if you remember back then I need to change, man. Again, again, like tiger helps a ton with that. But there is this, there's a massive just sports labor theme going on as well. We are in a strike right now, the PGA tour. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's, and there's a, the NHL is playing a lockout short and season at this moment. Uh, as well. They do not have baseball figured out by the beginning of the 1995 year.

Replacement players are potentially coming in just. There's all kinds of legal shit going on with that. Um, you know, hearing, blah, blah, blah, blah with, with baseball labor. So like the attention on the labor aspect as it comes to golf kind of stems out of that. Like the, the, the big American sports leagues need to get this kind of figured out.

And it does, we have cable sports getting, like, is about to take over. That was a big thing for Finchum as he kind of sees around the corner of what's about to happen with cable sports. The golf channel begins in early 1995. Uh, they're in January. It's not in many homes early.

We'll get there. But we're about to enter again, a new TV deal. Corporate America sponsorship of American sports and just 24/7 sports is about to boom. And I would have to say the PGA tour had the right guy for the job to put them in a position to succeed and capture that boom. Cause Finchum came in last year.

If you remember we talked about that on the on 94 bodies. Like I'm promising. Purs are going up. The money is going up. We're going up here.

Mark my words, which is important. And he delivers. Also no new taxes. Delivers on a lot of this stuff, which, like, really, really, really helps him when Greg tries to pull people away. Like, people do not want to give up their PGA tour status.

Like, there's no reason to jump off this, this boat. And, um, yeah, man, I walked away from all of this with even bigger appreciation for Finchum and how he enrolled this. So a couple of things. One, I got it. I got it.

I got it. Well, the amount of times that I'm like, wow, that sounds just like 2026. Cause I know that's going to keep keep popping up. But it's, you talked about all those increases without necessarily even mentioning where we've gotten to today. And it's like, you know, what did you say?

It was 20 some million for the for the season or adjusted to 60 something.

It's like, they're playing 20 million dollar events 12 times a year, 15 times a year at this point. I mean, it's, it's insane. And the other thing I would say, just if you don't know anything about the PGA tour and the structure and the how the players are organized and we're not organized.

“In that regard, I think it's just worth counting out or, or calling out that there's no player union either, right?”

I mean, it's the PGA tours set up very different than the NHL than Major League Baseball where there's owners and there's players at the PGA tour. There is, there's just players. The players don't go on strike because they'd be striking against themselves. You know, and so that's why I just context for why you see, like, well, maybe we should just start a whole other league rather than, like, Fuck it, we're not going out there. Well, I'm not playing until we fix this is like not really how it works.

And yet, just the idea that one, anybody that ever said in the last five years, we need a union. And PGA folks have said that one of the dumbest possible things you could say, like a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation. And a fundamental misunderstanding, honestly, if I may say, like, there are tons of beefs and qualms we will have with the PGA tour and have it with the PGA tour in the past. They do not do things perfectly. But as a professional golfer and I play in this, the idea that you could do it better than they do it is a complete fallacy.

It is the best, like, use of a gobbling up all the possible market value you can out of a sport that's not the most exciting thing in the world and sharing that with the players.

Like, that's an incredible distribution model for that.

Which, if I may, again, flash forward to 2021, call it.

“Also, you just see how the hubris builds up, right?”

Of a lot of, like, what do you mean do it better? What do you mean iterate? What do you mean change the product? Like, we're, you have any fucking idea how good we are at this? Like, I certainly, you know, I felt a lot of that when I worked there. There is a lot of, like, you know, we're so dialed. Look at our balance sheet. Look at our retirement plan. Look at our pension. Look at, this is the best pension. Yeah, but what about the NFTs?

Yeah, I came after I worked there, but there's a lot of, there is, it's easy to, it's not, it's not excusable for the hubris building up, but I do understand how and why it did.

“You know, and I think, again, it's just kind of table setting for what happens in this time period and then what happens again, 20 years later.”

Yeah, I'm curious where, what you think of this, I remember a takeaway from 94 was just like, hey, every time I encountered a newspaper, like, the senior tour was sometimes more prevalent as the PGA tour certain weeks. I felt a little less so in 95, I didn't feel like the senior tour was making, and a lot of my research is just going to go through all the newspapers and things like that, trying to get a vibe for, for how things stand. But just felt like less of a up front thing in 95, then it did in 94. I'm curious if you have felt any of that in your research.

I would agree with that. I tried to, in service of my time in my, like, sanity. I tried to focus, teach how we did it with the project annual pod. Like, I got to pick some one or two 10 polls per month instead of like, I'm going to go, you know, if I start searching like what happened in Palm Springs in August, I'm like, oh, God, I don't know. But the stars only won, man.

“But it's, I think it's important with those stats, I pulled up the Champions Tour was still new and it was a big expansion of revenue, you know, like, like, these Nike tours and these Champions tours were like,”

I think still, they weren't like tired entities if that makes sense. Like they feel like now, like now the Champions Tour feels a little tired and dated and afterthought, but, you know, I think the fact that a lot of the top golfers were international and not so much American made those, you know, older big names were still driving a lot of attention in the mid 90s. Yeah, and just the golf world still clinging onto the, you know, Jack Nicholas, Leachervino, Arnold Palmer era and there's not pretty tiger. There's not that one dude that that's so acceptable and takes a lot of that energy.

But we all, Jim Colbert did make $1.44 million on the senior tour in 1995, which is just 210,000 less than Greg Norman did as the eventual money winner in 1995 on the pitch. That's sad. Well, I don't feel it stuff. We had the return of Michael Jordan also coming in March, which is creates a little bit of an issue for the PJ tour around one of their, one of their big events, which is interesting. But a couple quick highlights. We did this last time as well from the 1995 media guide. These are some rules officials. Do you recognize anyone in these pictures? Of course there's some names there.

But bottom right corner, sluggered white, lived golf, sluggered white in the bottom right. Mark Russell is also there on that bottom line, but it's a very interesting.

Just moment in time there again, not going to do all these again, but there's Brando Chambley in the media guide Kristen Marco just a picture. I've never seen of Kristen Marco in 1995. He's got three.

Are you ever wearing the turtlenecks underneath the golf shirt? I feel like that's a very mid 90's. We can explore that as we give to the fall for mock neck. I think we can start to experiment. Didn't realize he was hunting to New York to Marco. Long Island man. And then went down the University of Florida. Good stuff. David Ferdie is now full-time member of the PJ tour. Jim Fierreck had a good rookie year. The year prior Bill Glass and our hitter. He's back. Still same photo was last year. But as so much like Gary Vucy. He's Gary Vucy, charity Hoffman.

Cross is what you guys described it last time as Roger Ball Bay still PJ tour winner at this time using all of the life of that 1985. Any see world series of golf victory, which did have a 10 year exemption in it. We do fall as a new member and rookie of the PJ tour listed there as well. 44 events were getting ready to play. Also, if note Sam's need no longer listed as a full-time PJ tour member.

If you remember, he was in it basically from winning like the 1942 US Open or something like that.

He's not listed as a PJ tour member anymore. I know you're thinking, did he die? No, he did not. He died in 2002.

Yeah, you no longer exempt on the PJ tour. This is the hardest call I've ever had to make it. What? Who's on the phone? That Netflix was there for all of it, too. And he got to be a writer cup captain.

“Who's this? Oh, yeah. Okay. Still should have picked himself. I think that's another story for another day.”

We're going to play 44 events on the PJ tour this year. Did you ask about this last time about what a golf on TV look like in 1995? And I, I have a confession to make on this because as Neil noted, you can go down a lot of different rabbit holes. You can spend a lot of time doing a lot of things. One thing I did bypass discovering and I go on TV guide week by week in detail on was this distribution. I am relying on some AI help here to help me sort this out. I, I spot checked a few of these and it looks right. All of the details in here might not be exactly right.

But here is what what it looks like overall CBS has 17 events NBC has seven ABC has seven ESPN has six and golf channel has six events. So CBS gets a lot of recognizable ones and a ton going from spring through summer pebble Nissan Darrell MCI heritage, the Greensboro Open Bell South Classic, Buick Colonial, Kemper Hartford, St. Jude, Western, Buick Open, Sprint International, World Series of Golf, NBC's got the Buick invitation Tory Pines, they got the Bob Hope Price or Classic, they got the Honda Classic Bay Hill players and Neil's favorite freeport McMoran Classic, which is in New Orleans.

They also have the U.S. Open for the first time here in 1995 taking that over for ABC, ESPN has the early round coverage of that.

That's a landmark change on the U.S. Open. I mean, that usher's in one of the great eras of golf on TV, I would say. Yeah, the U.S. Open on NBC. ABC has the Mercedes has Houston Byron Nelson Memorial Milwaukee, Torchampage and the British Open.

“Weird kind of collection here, which I think things are going to get sorted out here in the new TV deal here shortly.”

But ESPN has the northern telecom Phoenix Open and has her Bush Canadian Open Buick Challenge, the Las Vegas Invitation.

Golf Channel is getting scraps in their first year, deposit guaranteed golf classic, new England Classic, BC Open Quad City Classic, Disney Golf Classic and the Texas Open.

These are all falling to my part of the calendar. Yeah. Kathy TV. So TBS had the Hawaiian Open and also early round coverage of the PGA. So speculating here, but I wonder how much of this is, I just wonder why. Why is all of this spread out so much? Is this TV not quite or a big network TV, big sports properties, just not quite willing to fully optimize into live sports is the thing. You know, not not willing to take big enough swings trying to, you know, I mean, it's got to be these people trying to diversify a little bit.

Well, also interesting to see. I mean, you know, sitcoms are money cash cows in this time.

“I think some of it's just the the high cost probably of like, you know, a CBS like, man, I, I, I'll do X amount, but I can't take the whole calendar.”

You know, I don't think it's, it was any easier to broadcast golf in the 90s. Yeah. And, and then they also have this, these other, this other programming that was a lot more lucrative than it is now. Which is just got to be, yeah, it's got to be fascinating to, and I guess I don't know how much talent crossover there is. I don't know how many guys were doing stuff for golf channel and ABC or, you know, whatever, but it's got to be so hard to get.

I feel like you get a critical mask going or feel like you get a, your feet under you when you're only doing a fourth of the events or whatever is just a big challenge.

And it's also worth noting this is, um, there's a ton of our expansion going on in this time. Like a, that's a huge thing to inventions like, you know, entire thing. I think they went in 15 years. They've gone, this was before 94. They'd gone from 110 hours on TV to 617 in 94, which is a massive expansion in there. So it's probably just kind of bolted on, right?

Is there expanding hours year by year? It just gets a little bit more bolted on. And there's just a ton of also moving parts of like other sports, you know, like the, the thing with, we're going to get into the players potentially moving. Beginning that conversation in 1995, but the issue with that, it's an NBC product. NBC had NBA, NBA is going is in the playoffs in May, and that was just a massive, uh, hindrance to all of that. So as a Chicago sports fan in 1995, I'm just a glad NBC got, they got those right, you know, that was, that was dialed.

95 was at the best for Chicago, uh, that George does return, but they dealt with it. Yeah, they didn't win that way.

“I know you're not allowed to mention that the years that Jordan didn't win the title.”

I know that's not allowed, uh, and it's better to have lost early in the playoffs than to have lost in the finals. That's exactly how you say those legs. Little of the world stuff. OJ Simpson trial is beginning in the beginning of January. Alana's more set released Jagged Little Pill.

The Makarana is beginning its international spread. Pogs are taking over. Uh, and the internet is beginning to enter ordinary everyday life. Pogs getting a good slammer got I was living in Canada at this time. Pogs were hot in the streets outside Toronto.

Yeah. I don't know if this was the peak, but it could make the case. I don't know. That internet is getting started is like, um, fuck me. We should have just paused right there.

That kind of it. I don't know if there's a lot of like in there. I don't know how our job sort of careers would have worked out if that was the case. It's been professional Pog players. Yeah.

Pog collection. All right.

We're going first tournament of the year.

“Do you know where we're going and what it's called?”

Do you remember some Mercedes? Do you remember where? Uh, oh, is it at La Costa or something? You got it. You didn't get it last time, but you got it.

You got it. You got it. You got it. Still the dual event with the champion store? It's a great question.

Neil, uh, the senior tour. Of course. That was the story last year was they didn't like being treated like second class citizens. So they wanted the senior tour wanted their own event to start the year. They're going to start the following week in Puerto Rico.

Uh, and that is going to kick off the senior tour season. If you remember prior to this event was a dual event where they played the same T's. Their groups were intertwined on the T sheet as well. Uh, they almost in 1994 had a a senior tour beat to win the overall event. Uh, which was causing a lot of beef between, you know, just subconsciously sick.

Yeah. I kind of miss it.

“It was definitely missing a little bit of drama in this.”

But John Houston had a foreshot lead disappear in a brutal three-hole stretch on the front nine. Uh, Steve Elkington ended up winning it in a playoff over Bruce Litsky. Houston hit one on a creek made a double. Boge the next and put it into the water on seven. It was up hill putt putt putt putt into the water, which is also sick.

It's Katty's town. Hey, man, you, you can, you give this one a little bit of push. And it's up. All right. Get it to the hall.

Especially top is earlier in the day. It looked like it was going to get called for weather. Like everyone. Well, Houston's just like waiting it for it to get call for weather. He would have won.

Uh, but they'd flopped it together and went out and did it. And, uh, he ended up gagging it away. Uh, Elk said everyone locker rooms like no way we're going to play today. And sure enough, Elk comes back and goes in with it. They moved T's, uh, around and the grounds crew worked overnight to get it ready.

Uh, our friend Craig Stadler got a two shot penalty for showing up late for his tea time. He finished two shots behind Steve Elkington. Uh, that was a tough break.

Elkington hit a wire on the second hole and got to reply the shot.

The same thing happened to him. It looked awesome. Ninety two when he won. Um, of course. That's a given to the trivia.

That was in yards. And was completely soaked. Uh, in 1995. So. Um,

Trevino did, uh, lead Trevino traveled for the P.J. tour. Uh, awards dinner in Carl's bad that week to accept his senior tour player of the year award. He had recently ruptured a disc in his neck. Uh, had a repair. He went to a bone donor bank and secured part of a kneecap.

Uh, to repair the ruptured disc in his neck. Didn't know any of those things were a thing. So. God. Too many questions.

Keep moving. Keep moving. Can't pick just what silly season events. Same as last year. Our causing some issues for Tim Finchham.

Now, who's the, you know, he was not the commissioner of the year before. But the P.J., he says the P.J. tour has to reevaluate some of the competitions in the fourth quarter. Scheduling is getting a little crowded.

Basically, no, it knows what to do with the competition of the P.J. tour season.

And the sometimes bigger money guys can get in November and December. Like how can Finchham deny players the opportunity to go make money and argue that it hurts. You know, the other players. Uh, but again, on the flip side, guys are skipping more events in the early part of the year. Because of how busy their November and December are.

And it's hurting the TV package, which is up for negotiation after next year. So Finchham's got to do a little bit of threatening to deny some television releases at a tricky time of doing that as well. So just, and you can kind of sense it in the fields and the news stories of the early part of the year. And kind of where some other guys are popping up in different places around the world. They're not playing the P.J. tour in the early part of the year.

And they're, they're popping up appearance fees in other places. And it's, it's not a ton of momentum in the early part of the year for the tour. Are there any YouTube channels popping up at this time?

I haven't seen that. I might be in part two. I might be in Neil's section.

“You said the internet was getting going.”

No, but deeps, they were trading tapes at this time. So guys out there with camp quarters, you know, like at the concerts. You know, okay, here's all 18 from here's Litsky at Likovsky. Here goes Likovsky goes Likovsky. There's Bart Bryant's all 18.

It's a deep cut. I filmed outside the ropes, uncut. Bart Bryant goes low. Mike done. At the ID on classic and pleasant valley.

Got that pleasant valley tape from from 95. Oh, God. Forget it, man. Did you find it YouTube? I could find Jack shit on YouTube from 1995.

P.J. tour. The best one is is the P.J. Elx. Yeah, the P.J. Yeah, that's on there. Talking through his round at the P.J. is the best one I found. So we're picking back up again.

At the end of 94, Norman tries to roll out the world tour at a, you know, at a meeting at Sherwood in November. Finch and front runs them. You know, warns people that, you know, they're not going to be able to do it. Aren't a Palmer shoots it down.

People, you know. Finch and basically says out loud. I'm highly paraphrasing. You can't do both these things, blah, blah, blah. A reminder what the world tour is.

It's eight events. It's guaranteed money. Top 30 in the rankings plus 10 sponsor exemptions. $600,000 would go to the winner of each event.

And a million to the overall winner of the series.

It was Norman with John Montgomery Jr. and David Hill. David Hill's representing Fox Sports, which a just launched months earlier. This is all backed by Robert Murdoch.

Of course, Robert Murdoch. Excuse me. There's going to be four events held in the US. One in Canada. One in Scotland.

One in Spain. And one in Japan. And a tentative schedule reportedly include WGT tournaments before each major. Kicking off like the March 30th through April 2nd week. So basically running up against PGA tour events right before majors.

It does not get off the ground well. He gets absolutely eviscerated in the press. And of course, this would destroy the PGA tour. It's everything. It's against everything.

The PGA tour is about. He Norman, the big mistake he makes is does not get the support of the players prior to making it public, which absolutely kills him. He accuses the PGA tour of releasing its propaganda machine against them, getting all the media and the sports writers to say bad things about him and doing it.

And it's a mess right from the jump. He's time a couple of things to add. When I get to the back half of the year, we could dive back in.

“But important to understand the context of like we talked about the other sports.”

So a lot of the articles that I read, it's like, you know, every other sports sucks strikes, lockouts. Like golf's the last passion in this. And here's this egotistical greedy, you know, international pro golf for trying to mess up, you know, the tradition.

You know, so it's a little on the nose with like good versus evil. But yeah, he doesn't, he doesn't build consensus.

It's basically how like, you know, he just didn't give his, you know,

compadries any info, and it's just a half-baked plant. So he just, he just, he probably honestly, the more I read about it and look at it, it's like, I could have gotten a lot closer to getting it done. If he just wasn't like such a like megalomaniac. Yeah, I mean, the whole thing here is, and again,

it's the entire concept of the PGA tour is like, hey, we need you to follow our rules and regulations if you're going to be a part of this tour. But like, hey, we're going to us that work here. We're going to go out and we're going to market your guys collective rights to a bunch of sponsors. We're going to organize it.

We're going to find the venues for you. We're going to put up tournaments. We're going to find the money. We need you guys to just agree to our rules and that you're going to play on this tour. You're going to play 15 events and you're going to do this.

So I can sell that to TV blah, blah, blah, blah. Like that's professional golf. That's just, that's what that is.

To go outside of that is never going to go over well.

“Like, of course, you have to go through the PGA tour on this.”

And we all know where this leads to WGC's here in a few years. And it's not a clean path to getting there. And the Norman Finchman riff, you know, even expands from here. But there was just no way of getting this off the ground against the same chicken and egg problem. Andy Gardner, the PGL talked about of like we want to work with the PGA tour.

We were proposing something drastically different here. But we have to work with you or else you need everybody to jump all at once. And that's a really, really, really, really hard thing to recruit people for as Norman found out. And did not handle it. Well, they slipped contracts under the door to people at in an event in Jamaica.

Johnny Walker Classic just like they signed these. And, and thought I was like, no, and what the fuck? And I mentioned that the timing was, it was both bad. And it was actually impeccable because in the fall, late fall of 94, Vincent's taking over the job.

And a four year FTC investigation into two specific rules of the tour.

without commissioners permission, which is still the case. Even if they want to come play wildwater golf, they got to get a release with, you know, with George Truly here.

And the second gives similar veto power over appearances on televised golf programs.

But, you know, they were the skins game falls in this category. The match like, you know, case by case the tour relaxes this. But, like, if you're going to make a, like a hostile league, this is where Finchum then lays the gauntlet down and says very directly. If you play in this world golf tour, you are suspended.

So that he lays that down in late 94. And the player, you know, so it becomes a bit of a showdown. And then that's, that's all the Norman stuff. And then separate from that, he goes to work on the FTC situation. Because that's separate there.

But the timing of Norman's thing kind of makes this a existential threat.

“And it's the combination of both that I think it's important to, to realize.”

One of the things that hits me is you guys are talking about this. And I'll say a front that maybe probably the PJ tours restructuring and the way that they're doing equity now to the players. And changing their, their structure of how the business is set up. Maybe this doesn't happen again. But if it does, I'm just thinking like hearing everything I've heard about 94,

you mentioned Arnold Palmer. I've heard Peter Jacobs and talk about that meeting. You know, Arnold Palmer came in. And once he said that this, we weren't doing this. We weren't doing this.

He, his voice carried the day, yada yada yada. I think you can say a lot of the same about Tiger in the live stuff. I think a lot of like, oh, if Tiger thinks this is lame. I don't want to be lame. I should, I should try to win the tournament set exists.

Like I, I'm not jumping. I need to stick around. If this came up again in 30 years. Who's, who's that person? Because I don't think there's, I don't know if there's going to be another one.

Is it Rory? I feel like Rory took battle, like took, you know, just barrel fire. And all of this is it, is it Scotty Sheffler? It's Scotty Sheffler interested in doing, like I just think it's an interesting. Yeah.

Those icons of the game. I don't, I don't, I don't know.

There can always be another one.

But it's like, I don't know that they're churning those out. The way that they used to. And I just find that part of this way. Well, and then that's like, I want to double it for a second on the players meeting. Close door with, Paul, we're going up there and, and like, eviscerated Norman from, you know, everything I've read.

And then Norman, you know, comes back in, in a article from 1929 and sports illustrated talks about how it was a conspiracy because Arnold Palmer and IMG and IMG and Norman had broken up two or three years ago. And so golf was totally corrupt and it's just like, you know,

“you know, it's, it's a, who do you trust situation?”

But yes, Palmer in that room, it sounds like. Can I answer that question about who do you trust? Paul, it's not Norman. Yeah, but it's just funny, you know, you get, you get these quotes from Norman, like, oh my god, you know. Yeah.

So anyway, so I keep keep going. I don't want to get too bogged down here because we'll go back to it. And I forget what, oh, you're pointing like, you mentioned, you know, like, hey, there's a skins game and there's, you know, guys are getting their beaks wet in the fall and things like that. But like, a big part of this and it's a big part with the match and a big part of why Phil Nicholson got pissed off was like,

for their $10 million match, Tiger and Phil had to chip off the PGA tour and million dollars out of that.

And that's the whole thing with like, with these skins game is you guys got to chip off the PGA, like, we're collective rights group. How do you want me to sell this to the rest of the membership? You guys are getting your, your money over here, but I'm not in charge of like getting a small amount of you guys money. I'm in charge of getting everybody money. So some, some's got to come into our coffers.

“It's going to help top up some of these other purses if you want to play outside the rights of this group.”

Like, that's kind of the whole thing that like Norman and Phil just are unable to wrap their heads around because of, to use some Phil's words obnoxious greed. That's, that's like the root of, of the problem in a lot of this stuff. So, to your point, in this week, opening week again, we're hitting everything right from the jump. The FTCs on Friday said it will seek a complaint officially.

So this is rumbling in 94, but officially 95 kick off the year. The Federal Trade Commission, which has been investigating the PGA tour for possible restraint of trade practices, has decided to seek a complaint against the golf organization. The PGA is conflicting event and TV release rules prohibiting member from participating in any other golf event on a date when a PGA. To our co-sponsor event is scheduled under PGA rules and exchange for TV coverage of most two events.

Members agree not to appear on other live or recorded golf programs unless approved by the commissioner. PGA Commissioner Tim Fincham has estimated that the legal matter could take as much as five years to resolve. And he says, it's our position that our rules are expansive rather than restrictive who sites an increase of TV televised hours from 118 in 1979 to 1,000 in 94.

So this is like, like this is Fincham just being a total boss and making a very convincing case of like,

this is not a restrictive tour.

“Like look at how much money we're paying these players.”

One we're making a ton of money for charity as well. We're putting them on television blah blah blah. That we are not doing this is not like a restriction of output. And the article says Fincham was not merely a sports administrator. He had worked in the Carter White House served as a national staff director of the Carter Mondale campaign and founded a Washington consulting firm.

The FTC fight was almost perfectly suited to his background. Strange the swap just fucking bring it. So of note like on the convicting events releases like Jack Nicholas productions had reason to in this as written as well had reason to resent the television release system because it produced and dependent made for TV golf. Company President Terry Jastro described the tour's regulations as stringent. Sometimes arbitrary and difficult for businesses operating in a free enterprise environment.

Yet he also accepted that some centralized order was necessary and that universal restrictions at least produced a predictable marketplace. Nicholas voluntarily spoke with FTC attorneys, but publicly supported the tour.

“And this is where like the important nuance of the entire situation is like opposition to the rules did not necessarily mean they were support for dismantling the tour.”

As many golf businesses resented Fincham's veto power while also fearing the chaos that might fall out if nobody possessed it. So and use this a lot. We're not tennis we're not going to tend like tennis is at this time is super disorganized and kind of going down this route. Like we are not going down that way and like dismantling all that would mean less money for everyone both saying that to tour members as well as government officials of like. Terry this down you are hurting the economy and the American like.

Not ownership of golf but like the trend going in American golf where the best players in the world are playing here more often so. Very very well said it's a compelling case.

And he opens the year again talking more world tour basically it's a it's up against our official money season it involves a small number of players it's a great deal of prize money.

The big quote it and it's kind of moved around a little bit it's gone from eight you know there's someplace to say it's eight events still someplace some say it's for now some say it's six. The big line that gets quoted a lot is the noble cause of a half dozen events and just runs that runs that right up against like his charitable stuff of the great let's a great line. Compare that to you know Monta hand saying a series of exhibition events like another another point for fidget on this but yeah. It's like look look this can happen in the market you can put this up any this is a free country anyone can create a new league a new sport a new tour if the Montgomerys and their sponsors want to go out and put on a series events they can do that.

And our players would have to choose but the analogy would be that a new football league has started and rather just higher players they want to Troy acbon and the best players in the NFL to go play in their game the NFL wouldn't allow that the NFL doesn't have a has to compete with itself the NBA doesn't compete with itself and we shouldn't have to compete with ourselves. What you're probably saying if you're now pounding on the steering wheel the differences those players are not independent contractors Troy acbon's not an independent contractor he signed with the Dallas Cowboys as part of the NFL to go play in a set number of games.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, the the the the the Tory is trying to have it both ways right there they're trying to to be a membership organization of independent contractors for tax exempt purposes but also trying to make sure that those people can only kind of play on on in one tour which as you just spell all that out I'm like oh well that it does make sense I do get why it doesn't work in a different scenario. because it is a different sport it's not a team sport it's not the same set up I get how the conversation gets off the ground though as well you know it's just it's.

It's muddy and it's why continues to be muddy for 30 years.

“It is but I think it the through line here both for players and for just like the government intervention and it is like.”

tearing it down who carry down who's that make it that it only makes it better for like maybe the cream of the exact of the very top and you're going to rebuild and restructure that in a way in what way. And that's going to lead to a different set of problems and that's that's just a whole different can of worms that I think is. I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to fucking throw a heater right down the middle and about now oh it gets so good it gets so good and the fact accidentally came across.

I sent it over to you of just like the summary of all that finch him does it's it's incredible he's a boss he is in alpha.

I mean I would add I don't think this is stepping on anything is just to underscore what you're saying solid like in my NFL versus PGA tour there's also no owners right so to your point on like what's the point of tearing it down.

You're taking 20 times what the players are making and you're restraining the trade in order to like prop up that person's income but there's not some people like to poke point at like.

“PGA tour executives and they're yes the commissioner it makes a lot of money in the very very top level brass makes a lot of money but not in comparison to.”

I just think that's worth pointing out to is like the government doesn't need to step in in order to keep a Jerry Jones from from popping up here they it does make sense to more. Like let the middle hold and make sure that the whole thing kind of stays propped up. Glen she he writes as well where's the world torn now basically on hold hoping to stage an event late 1995 the currently possessing nobody other than Norman willing to risk his PGA standing to participate. Although the prospect of playing more big money tournaments worldwide against the best in the world intrigues prominent pGA tour players the threat of suspensions by commissioner 10 10 10 10 5 5 is hardly appealing to the world tour presume that a sizable number of top players would jump to its side and force finch into either suspend them or look the other way.

If so.

“It badly misjudged the response Fred couple said the world tour right now is nothing that isn't to say in two years it won't be but right now there is no world tour.”

There was some big time fence sitting from the international player so some some quotes Nick price hey man I'm interested but I got to see a lot of like.

Keep me posted. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. And it's like no well you are a risk okay well no like I said I was interested but I I'm not interested in like breaking off with you here man I'm not taking that on. So also interesting is that Norman's doing all this stuff whipping up this you know this hoop he doesn't get suspended he calls out.

In 95 gentlemen so I play this is all going on and he is just killing on on the PGA tour while he's trying to blow it up it's it's incredible.

I think in in like my heart of hearts I don't think Norman's trying to blow it up like this time around I don't think he's trying to blow it up I think he is like there is more international golf going on in this time period and guys are playing more total you know the money is relatively. You know with appearance fees and places they're able to go outside of the US. They're making a similar amount of money to what they're making on the PGA tour right so that changes now into the late you know current day like there's just the most money can be made on PGA tour and now the Piff is out of.

The picture here and the the Norman it's almost like dude I don't know if I need you PGA tour I'd rather just play like these eight events and then go collect my. He's quoted as saying I I just have to play 15 events to keep my card I just want to play my 15 and then I want to go play these other eight. And you know which is a like you know valid or like makes sense yet that makes sense if it's like yo you the world revolves around you yes extremely ignorant to think that it wouldn't massively affect the PGA tour and that people wouldn't have.

Issues with it John Daley's back after five months off picture on the front page of a newspaper smoking a cigarette daily as they were covering alcoholic but he's not going to part with his other vice he said I'm not going to sit there and quit smoking just because there's some kids out there. I feel I'm a good real model if I'm not one I want to be one. It's got a new gym in his house and is more fit but it has a lot of work to do on the belly he's gained 15 pounds but he's got a new year's resolution to forget about the past.

“That's what I'm going to do in 1995 almost haunted by what has been.”

I don't know if I've ever heard that Phil has a pilot license I don't know if he followed through on this or. I don't remember this passing I knew he had a good curiosity and aviation but I'll put that on my my take away still looking to. Our header again Larry Bohannon he pinned a column this week talking to talk about. Some will he said there's expect more lawsuits than you can check a three would at. I don't know what that means the federal trade commission this week began lowering a potential boom on the PGA tour announcing it with seek bubble blah.

That's is the tour will vigorously fight the FTC complaint that means Finchman PGA tour players might get as much court time as Robert Shapiro and Al Cowling. Winner loose the distraction of such legal actions can't help the tour in 1995 Finchman sounding off FTC has been looking at our rules for four and a half years.

If the commission goes against us I look forward to defending those rules in court.

“If we fail in court I would look forward to asking the congress to take action to allow us to continue to be structured the way we are.”

Finchman said it is our position that our rules are expansive rather than restrictive sites the TV hours and increasing not restricting output as out there. So this is Finchman's play like hey we're going to fight you for many many many many years on this I'm getting out in front of this in public. Not only that I'm going to be like back room dealing here with a lot of important people in Washington I'm going to put a spotlight on this for the American people to say is this a good use of the commission's time like is this is how you want to be doing this.

Getting some politicians involved getting their constituents whipped up as well throughout the course of this so.

That's all in the first week of the year which I promise is about to go a lot faster here John Morris wins the Hawaiian open his first one on the PGA tour.

Jim Colbert won a tournament champions there as mentioned in in Puerto Rico. Super Bowl is coming up at this time the 49ers are 17 and a half point favorites and that one again January 17 this coming week. The golf channel officially launches Arnold Palmer and cable entrepreneur Joe Gibbs not the owner of the Washington Redskins at the time. Flip the ceremonial switch on January 17 at debuted as the first single sport cable network and initially reach only about 10,000 homes. But it did at its first live tournament was the Dubai Desert Classic.

The timing was just perfect while the tour is you know was defending its power to approve televised golf experience appearances.

“An entire 24 hour channel to devoted to golf appeared.”

Was it just I mean it's just the infomercials and stuff the whole rest of the time. Has to hear Kessler and reviews or interviews and golf central golf talk live with Peter Kessler. There's golf academy on there a lot of reruns of a lot of these lot of that.

Infomercials cable outlets took three and a half years and more than 80 million dollars in investment capital before hitting the airwaves.

80 million bucks and 95. That's a lot of money man. Yeah. The Kessler interviews are electric. I know I know our guy kind of maybe lost it on Twitter some years ago, but the early stuff I mean it's I miss it so much. I wish Brando had a long form interview show golf channel if you're listening why are we not why are we not doing that.

Fairity stuff was great, but then it got really goofy and silly and I was not saying just get Brando sitting down like I don't know. Brando might not be rich or rich. Yeah, yeah, sure. I mean rich is a pro come on. Yeah, I love it, but just yeah, I don't know if all the tiger ones like with bush harming in there and they're hitting balls into the net and talking about us great enormous stuff was really good golf talk.

“I think Kessler has all those on a website somewhere.”

I don't know how he got like the actual rights to those, but anyways they are airing the Dubai desert class.

It's like the first time the American audiences have gotten their eyes on Dubai in the 90s and then what was taking off there and whatnot.

So it was that one hit pretty hard. Northern Telecom open. Film Nicholson wins this to become the first player to win the event as a pro and an amateur. He beat Jim Gallagher Junior by one stroke as Gallagher Boge the 18th more on Gallagher later. Jim Gallagher Junior.

Boy, it was that boy was him in 1995. Fred couples becomes the first American to win the Dubai desert classic. He's over there playing on the European tour. John Dealey had a shot strike an official left and bloodied. He missed the cut, which was getting everywhere in the papers.

Vijay Singh wins the Phoenix open on January 29th in a playoff over Billy Mayfary credits his swing coach Mack Ogrady for the victory. I've got to do it Mack Ogrady deep dive. That's I'm itchy for that one. Articles written about how the Phoenix open keeps getting bigger and bigger. Weeklong total of 392,000 people attend here in 1995. It is well over 500,000 now, just a few years later, but all kinds of stuff up the Thunderbirds.

They've done the growth of the tournament again. All still the same here in in 2026. So during this week, no stadium at 16 yet still just very informal. Informal gathering. Come through come through.

This lovely January 26th through 28th. Tim Fincham meets for two days with members of the Senate and House of Representatives regarding the FTC probe into the PGA tour release rules January 28th. Tim Fincham is photographed on a four mile run with President Bill Clinton. The only picture I could find of this is super distorted black and white picture from a newspaper. I couldn't find it anywhere else.

Come on, Tim, let's go. But the optics of that of like, I'm going to win this. I know everybody in Washington, I know how this city works. I'm going to take care of this.

Again, you can sense the slow start to the year. Couples, the top ranked American is playing internationally instead of a lot of his West Coast events. Pebble Beach Peter Jacobson wins his fifth PGA tour event. We are, and if you haven't noticed yet, we are on.

We are on a heater of winners that's going to go on for a long, long, long time through basically through my entire section of this show.

Jacobson's in his 40s. He had tried TV a bit and 93 didn't like it. This is only win number five in his 17th year on tour. Jacobson a popular player. He's been on the policy board for six years.

He's got coal in quote aura, according to the press down. He does have the risk. He's got fluff on the bag. Foster building the bag for 17 years now. And David Duval played his in the final pairing for the first time at a PGA tour event.

Shot 67 in the final pairing. But did not win it. Duval is 23 years old and a rookie on the PGA tour.

“If you remember, things that we didn't weren't going great with Dean Beeman and Bill Murray in the prior year.”

Bill Murray had called the PGA tour in Nazi state. Among other things. Finch and did write two letters to Bill Murray to persuade him to play in it. Murray of course dragged an elderly woman into the bunker a year prior. Dance with her until she fell.

Fetch him but describe it that he's using his artistic capabilities to create interest. This is another. I've fallen in love with Tim Finch. By the way, if you get to help.

Nick Faudeau's here this week and is now a full timer on the PGA tour for the first time.

Since 1989. It's fun and interesting. Jack Nicholson Tom Watson or set to play as Shell's wonderful old-a-golf the next day at Pebble. The public was free to come out and watch Parking was like six dollars for it. But you can just come watch them play a wonderful world of golf on that Monday after the Pebble Beach program.

That sounds great. That sounds great. simpler time. John Stockton passed Magic Johnson this week for career assists as well. I think it's the fastest way.

I don't think that's right. I might be the judge. Yeah, I don't think that's right. John Stockton got HIV. That's me.

I told me. Oh God. Peter Jacobs wins again the next week at the Buick Invitational of California. Going back to back is at Tori Pines picks up his wife afterward. And like the jokes are that he is acts like he's going to throw her in the pond at Tori.

But he does. He's going to throw her in the pond at Tori. He's going to throw her in the pond at Tori. He's going to throw her in the pond at Tori. He's going to throw her in the pond at Tori.

He's going to throw her in the pond at Tori. He's going to throw her in the pond at Tori. He's going to throw her in the pond at Tori. He's going to throw her in the pond at Tori. He's going to throw her in the pond at Tori.

He's going to throw her in the pond at Tori. He's going to throw her in the pond at Tori. He's going to throw her in the pond at Tori. He's going to throw her in the pond at Tori. He said the pebble victory had allowed him to recognize

he was operating in a completely new competitive reality. Next week Bob Hope Chrysler Classic Kenny Perry wins just two weeks after he blew a three shot lead at Pebble. To evolve finishes second again. Of course, Devol is going to make some history at this event a little later.

He is knocking on the door. Kenny Perry's building a golf course back home in Franklin. Kentucky County Creek golf club. He says the debt from the course has him rededicated and focused.

That didn't borrow a million and a half dollars.

When you borrow a million and a half dollars from the bank, it gets you focus. That he was signing the checkaway right away over to the bank. The course concept sounds good. It does exist till I look this up as well. The Greens, Greens fees at the course will be $12.

The cart will cost eight. So it's a public golf course despite it being called a golf club. That Kenny's building back in his hometown. How's that? >> Double click on that for a sec.

“I don't know who would be Russell Henley or someone just being like, you know what?”

I'm going to build a global public golf course in public golf course. Because it's like Zach Blair. I think I could see a lot of players building like a high and richer. Shout out to Kenny Perry. I had no idea he did that.

I'm going to check that place out if I remember. >> I don't know the full history. Maybe it was supposed to be a country club and didn't end up working out. I don't know exactly, but it does still exist. On Kenny Perry Lane or Dry or something like that.

>> That could be any family. >> That's great luck. >> Dovol second on the money list. Again, as Rook in the P.A.T.14 and a Y.T. 6th at Northern Telecom runner up at Pebble and Bob Hope had T17 at Darrell as well.

I'll say it. Get him on the team for sure. >> Maybe not the charisma, not the risk. But whiffs of the kid coming from Duval here. >> 1995 they were not looking very fondly on Rookies.

“Unfortunately I think for our guy a little later on.”

>> That's definitely the same thing. >> Please save stage for that one.

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“playing as a five-some with the Fending Champion Scott Hook.”

George Bush had a spectator Norma early in the face, breaking her glasses and requiring ten stitches. Also hit another spectator in the back side. Gerald Ford hit a woman's finger as well. The group took six hours to finish.

Tom Kite was in the group behind them and laid down in the fairway and protest and officials tried to bribe the 91-year-old Bob Hope with some ice cream to get him to leave. But he insisted on finishing if all the presidents were going to finish as well.

>> She says. >> Worth noting this does gut. We're recording this the week after President Trump's 70 at the member guest where he was apparently playing off like course handicap zero. So maybe you know, maybe you could have got him out there to speed things up.

>> I could see him in Biden playing again. >> I mean, what you're talking about. >> Do you see the spinny put on that wedge? >> I was saying what if he was, yeah, we don't have to get into it.

But what if he was just playing the golf course? What if he did shoot 70? But he was playing the golf course from like 900 yards. >> Like what if that was his T shot? You know, that little green sign pitch?

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It's a team event in this team event. Greg Norman and Nick Price are playing each other. It turns into a little bit of a joke because they both conceded long puts to each other on 17. So their TV match would reach the 18th hole.

Ken Schofield in the European tour. Not happy about that. It becomes a pretty mocking line. Like, Laney Walken started railing on it of like,

“you know, how important the Ryder Cup is and how silly”

a lot of these team events are that are popping up. So more on the FTC investigation this week, Finchham calls it the bureaucratic momentum at its zenith. He's expecting a ruling within days. He said if the commissioners vote to continue

was already been a five year investigation, could start another legal preceding those threats three more years. If they lose the appeal, drawing on their two years, this is the rhetoric that Finchham's going on with. We are going to drag this out if you really against this.

That week defended the rules by saying abandoning them could mean an explosion of big money, limited field events that would help a handful of players and promoters but hurt the game and a majority of players. Sounds familiar.

He also says in recent interviews that the investigation is making conversation with sponsors much more difficult and that they use the rules to maintain the allure of the support to their sponsors and their networks. And he said it.

Norman is the only one that has called him to say, "Hey, maybe we should think about these rules." As in all the other players agree to the rules and Norman's the only one that is spoken to Finchham about maybe not agreeing with them.

So also interesting card to play of like, you are hurting our industry by looking into this right now. We're ramping up the pressure of like shit or get off the pot here. You're doing this or not. Like I'm ready to take this head on.

But you guys got to make a move here. Nissan opened Cory Payton wins for the second consecutive year. He wins by three over Kenny Perry. Collecting that money to turn over to the bank. And Jay Don Blake.

Of course, the P.J. Championship will be returning to Riviera in August as well. Greg Norman's in South Africa this week. He says about the world tour. It will happen.

The majority of the people around the world would like to see it happen. Which, yeah, that would mean,

I don't know how there's eight billion people now.

Maybe there's six billion in 95. So over three billion people want this world tour to happen. It's kind of scottled me all rhetoric that we heard recently. So next week the Darrell rider open. Nick Fowdo wins for just the second time in an actual P.J.

Tour event ignoring the five majors that he's won. Fowdo drives it in the water on 18 leading by a shot. But he saved Boge with a miraculous three wood and

Norman just needed a part of tie. But hit it six iron from 179. And again, this is heavily emphasized. Hit it into the middle of the lake. Like he didn't just hit in the water.

“He like chunks it out of the rough into the middle of the lake.”

50 yards from his target. And articles are written afterwards about how Fowdo is trying to work to change his image in the US bubble of love. Peter Jacobson almost made a 60 foot on the 18th to tie as well. And going to a playoff.

That's the third win of the spring or the winter.

So Honda classic little drama. Marco Mira wins the ninth his ninth to our event. Is that Western Hills winnings it by a shot. Omega played out of turn to finish up on the one foot put because he was so nervous and didn't want to wait for it.

Omega wouldn't have played this week. Had he not forgotten to enter the Nissan open two weeks earlier. He showed up at Riviera ready to play a practice round. The problem was he had not phoned into enter the tournament and it was too late. That'll finish runner up this week as well.

Mike Hallbert finishes 13th. Mike Hallbert. He puts one handed. He's got the Yip so bad. He is on the PGA tour putting one handed.

I can only find one clip of him doing it the memorial later that year. But he puts his left hand on his hip and puts entirely with his right hand. Which is again the second top finish of the year so far. That's something to track the whole bear report. That's you.

That's jarring. Okay. File that under the you know what we compare air as. It's not the entire thing. Well so those guys were putting one hand.

“Got to remember fireman one handed potters.”

It really good. They're really really really good. I promise but like. You know some of them objectively were putting one hand. Glenn Day is assessed a one shot pen air.

It was my trivia question.

Is assessed a one shot penalty for slow play and the third round earned him the nickname.

It was going to be a trivia question today. That was the last slow play penalty issue on the PGA. It's crazy. Nobody has played slow. I was getting ready to sit last like finished that sentence Neil.

It was getting ready to sit. The last penalty stroke given out on the PGA tour for blank years. How many years until the 14 year old. That was a matter of a count. This is a budget to not major.

Yeah. I don't. I don't have a 12 years. Twenty two years. It came the 2017 the Zurich.

I think in a team format and. And I don't again that might be bad. I remember right.

“But I think I think it took until 2017 for the next slow play penalty to be dished out the PGA tour.”

So. So it's a question's loom about where the tournament's going to be played next year. It will stay or move to its new long term home and coral springs at hern bay. It actually ends up going to TPC equal trace for a year before going to hern bay. They claimed hern bay was going to be ready.

But the golf course was not ready in time. It was brand new golf course. And they didn't get it built in time to host the Honda classic in 96. So. Bay Hill.

Lauren Roberts wins the second PGA tour event. Defending his title. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah.

Just like it's just a horse for the course man. He had to go back to Q school three times again. When is it Bay Hill again? Feeling at the top 24 players in the Sony world rankings. Palmer had that risk man.

He was getting people to come to his tournament. During this week, Palmer does call his own meeting. When the tour arrived at Bay Hill. Some in Norman Davis love recounts that he said I was told to go tell Greg. He had to go to the meeting.

He was afraid to do so. Norman couples love and finch him. Huddled in Palmer's office that overlooked the putting green at Bay Hill. The line was drawn right there. Arnold said, look, it's over.

This is not the way we set the PGA tour. Jack and I set this up to run the way. It's run. We could have taken ownership. But we set it up to benefit everyone.

Not just certain players. If I was in that meeting, I would have maybe reminded Palmer of his breakaway attempt in 83. The Jack tried to talk him into. It's a little bit of revision. It's history for Palmer.

But he stood up and said, you don't think Jack and Gary and I could have done this. Once those guys stepped up and they were against it, especially Arnold. It was over fast. They left the room and it was over. So brings us to the players.

March 26, just two weeks before the Masters is when the players was at this time. And big reviews are in for finch him. This is a big, you know, it's kind of a state of the union week.

Always for the PGA tour commissioner.

He is in every newspaper I could find just getting rave remarks in public. As most of the first time commissioners get communication skills. Open this with the players handling of the world golf tour. Listening to strong foundation of support among the players. That's the Jacksonville Times union.

Even Greg Norman says I've probably had more communication with Tim in the first five or six weeks than I had in Dean Beaman in 12 years. He said, since November he and I have had wonderful communication.

Neither one of us wants to see anyone get hurt. We'll see about that. What you get sounds a lot like the roll-ups stuff. Yeah, it's just a lot. We've got to finally an adult in the room.

But sounds like Monahan's first year, too. Everybody's on the greatest guy ever.

Perse up to $3 million for the players when he was going to get $540,000.

David evolved not eligible for the event as Nike tour graduates. We're not automatically qualified, but he gets a special exemption. The hometown too. It gets a special exemption into the players. It was not very controversial.

It was a players decision in this. And the players on the board were like, this dude should be in the tournament. It was an easy one.

“David's love, Brad Fax, and I think we're on the board at this time.”

They were like, let's get this guy in the tournament. There was five other special exemptions as well. So it's not just a completely special thing for him. But for it sounds great. I want to find some footage from this Thursday.

41 balls in the water on 17 on Thursday. The wind blue Tom Watson's hat into the lake. Amira and Faldo. Each put two balls in the water. Both made seven.

There's 23 scores in the 80s and only 20 sub par rounds. PTI Randy would have loved this day. 50 scores of double or worse on the last two holes alone. And Corey Paving shot 66 with 22 puts. Surringes were brought out with a cooling spray on the greens at one point.

Because it's about hard to win this blind. It's like the soccer is cool. It's cool. It's not bad, bro. It's not bad.

Who would? I'm trying to actually leave it. Jensen wins by one of her Bernard Longer Bigwin for Jensen. I've been mocked for changing equipment and caddies after. Quote flukishly winning the 1993 US open.

It was just his second win since then.

A little full circle moment. Three years prior at the 92 players. Jensen had chucked his putter into the water on the 6th hole. He had, you know, the the wear with all that moment after the round to go back out and fish it out of the pond. And wouldn't you know it that we could use the same putter to come on.

40,000 dollar prize. How does story that is? Fifth major talk really rampant up. There's an article in the Palm Beach post that also says the players has an identity crisis.

“Uh, but a lot of hard to say and like, why isn't this a major?”

It's got it blah blah blah. And again, what's not helping this year, Michael Jordan is returning this week to the Chicago bulls. And so foul. So foul shoots 80 in the opening round. It was asked about it and says, I've got your fucking story.

Bridgestone put the wrong balls in my locker. The driver sucks. Yeah, that was good. That sounds familiar.

Faldo uses wreck star 40 baladas, but was accidentally given 50s.

Uh, which do not perform as well in the wind. So that was the reason why you shot 80s. So again, talks a bit moving to May, not immediately, but the advantages of moving the players to May. Uh, one is it would better align the players with the four recognized majors. It would shift the players away from the master's shadow.

The shadow again, this advantages are that television and BC's got the rights to the players and the MBA. The MBA playoffs are going on in May. It would take another 12 years before the players would officially move to May in 2007. Of note, Dean Beaman's back out in the senior tour. If you remember Dean Beaman part of the reason he rolled off a commissioner is he wanted to play.

Uh, back get back to playing the player in his own right. Great player in his own right. It's made four starts so far.

“It's $7,2,T-29,T-64, and I think a T-14 if I remember right.”

I messed that up, but, uh, it's two top 10s on the year makes $154,000. They should make body and play the champions to it. [laughs] [laughs] It's no way, you got to play.

Save T's. Save everything. It's part of job that. You got to go play for a full year and then you could get this exit, this exit package. That you could, that you could have it.

But you got to grind it out. No cut, either. God, those, those, those tapes of, of Beaman's 95 campaign. Yeah. Children's stuff.

Yeah. I just, let's see what that as well. I was bone by grass the other day. Yeah. Neil, did you come across anything on the Anderson Consulting World Championship of Golf?

I didn't. Okay. I, I, I flag this because I, it's, it's, it's, I don't really remember this. But, uh, so this, uh, this, this, this event is announced. I remember this name, Anderson Consulting World Championship of Golf, and I remember the commercial sport.

I remember the sound of that. I didn't know what it was though, but it says the run to the title starts April 10th and 11th, just after the masters. It's a fake tear today. It was all just, it's all the ballad sheet.

It might have been. I guess it's a, it's Arthur Anderson. And, you know, the, uh, it was complete Ponzi scheme. Yeah. Of Enron fame.

It could be.

All matches are single elimination match play.

And so the first match is going to be right for the masters.

Layman against Mark McCumber and Fuzzy Zeller against Paul Azinger. And then Frank Nobelo and, uh, is going to play Steve Elkington. VJ is going to play Robert Allen B. Uh, and then Tuesday, Tom Kite against Lauren Roberts, Corey Paven vs. Phil Nicholson, Mark McNulty against Craig Perry and David Frost against Eduardo Romero.

And from there, this is going to play right after the masters.

“Monday and Tuesday, I think, after the masters.”

From there, the foreign survivors are going to play an Oxfordshire. Two days after the British open. And the Americans are going to play on July 31st and August 1st in Colour, Wisconsin. And I, I didn't know if you came across, I don't know if that was. Black will run or if they're, uh, wishing straits wouldn't, didn't exist yet.

I don't know what they were doing up there. I didn't know if that came across your desk. But the golf, four golfers are going to advance to the finals, December 30th and 31st at Greyhawk. ESPN televised 49 and a half hours of this event.

Because it's just a special, made for TV event that I, I, if you'd asked me what the energy and good-salting world championship of golf was. I, I would not have been able to, to list it off for you. But yeah. I'm going to focus in my research on like PGA tour.

So that's probably, yeah. You know, uh, fence it off, but yeah. Uh, interesting for shadowing here. The heads of the five families meet in Ponovidra this week, the US tour. The European tour, Australia, Japan, and South Africa

“to celebrate the death of the World Golf Tour.”

No, they formed the world forum of PGA tours, which would of course later become the international Federation of PGA tours. League of Nations. You can see where this is going to be heading towards the events. They're going to put together here.

But this is the, the first meeting of all of them here.

Um, and probably at eight, an offshoot and take away from the World Golf Tour. Talks of like, phantom's trying to get his arms around to basically all the other tours as well. So WGCs. What do we're there with?

See your grill? Two dudes. There were a lot of people there. It was very regionalized joke there. Uh, an article from Ron Syrac highlights how America is where the big money is

in golf. Clearly, he says quote, clear the European tour is serving as a very nice developmental league for the USPGA tour. Sort of a triple A in knickers. Bolt in the United States.

Again, I really kind of associate the, the tours being somewhat even at this time, but it's kind of fading pretty quickly for the European tour in the mid 90s. So. Alright, I'm pausing the PGA tour action here to give a little bit of an update for the golf world as a whole.

You guys have any, any, any guesses is to what this might be. Um, any, any developments, forgot, it affects pro golf as well. It's going to affect the recreational golfers as well.

“But do you remember kind of what happens early 1995?”

It's not square grooves is it? It's not square grooves, but it is your fishing and right pond. It's not really rules related. It's just a big development. Uh, on the equipment front.

Not the pro v1. It's not the pro v1. Um, something similar. New innovation, something great. And it's being.

Oh, share a great big birth. Okay, so titanium drive, but we're brought to my title. By the way, if you can't tell, uh, here, but we're going to cover a little. Oh, I'm news here. Uh, titanium drivers had been in existence since the early 90s.

But they were expensive availability wasn't high. And it just really hadn't caught on yet. And Calaway breaks through with the great big birth. This from golf to BRX. This is the full titanium construction allowed for a significantly larger head at.

How many CCs was the significantly larger? Uh, it's like 370 or 3950. Oh, for me. Two hundred and fifty three CCs for more forgiveness. Uh, which must have looked huge compared to the original big birth.

A driver at a mere hundred and ninety CCs. It is now twice the size of a conventional persimmon driver. What do you think the cost of this was in 1995? Uh, say a hundred and fifty dollars. Yeah, I had a hundred ninety nine in my head.

Five hundred dollars. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, series.

Seven now. GTS is a good deal. People get out and buy a Tyler GTS. Uh, the cost is driven by the Ruger titanium clubhead made exclusively for Calaway by Firearm Maker Stern Ruger in company.

Uh, the Ruger titanium head costs more than four times as much as Calaway paid any Foundry for any other clubhead. The titanium way substantially less than stainless steel drivers. And with over 250,000 drivers sold and it's first year it became the best selling driver of It's time proving the titanium wasn't just viable.

It was revolutionary pros like Phil Mikkelson on a cassorn stay and put it in play.

What made it great was how well it worked for the average golf or Calaway turned titanium

Competitors scrambled to catch up.

“Titanium quickly became the standard and driver design would never be the same.”

It changed the trajectory of modern driver technology. Taylor made hustled and launched the burner. The burner was out but the bubble shaft. Oh yeah. With it that was also $500.

Driving distance is about to increase by 26 yards on average in the next 10 years. Guys are doing sit ups like crazy. I didn't realize a firearm coming in with that ballistic face technology. But by 2005, 97 players would be hitting it farther than John daily hit it in 1995. With new course led the tour.

Again just quick pause here to say like daily was the needle in the 90s for how far he hit it. It was like 289 or something like that and everyone was in all of that. Because of course distance is relative and it doesn't matter if the ball goes 340 or 290. The distance is relative and we lost our unit with that one. You think it's cool Sammy says it might go higher hit the bunch.

Everybody hit over. Wouldn't that be way better?

Listen I've never made it to march in any one year without a rider cup update.

Quick rider cup. We're going to be playing the rider cup this fall at Oak Hill.

“I think it's kind of funny like the narrative around the event at the time.”

The U.S. is coming off back to back winds at Kiowa and the bell free. And they've got a home win coming up at Oak Hill in September. Complete opposite of what we've got going here in 2026. But Bonti says, "For America keeps winning the rider cup will lose what it has gained. Europe must win and sooner rather than later.

If we are not careful the rider cup will cease to be the great event that it is now." I'm sorry about that. All kinds of weird articles written. The sparse crowds on the European tour and how big they are on the PGA tour gives the Americans in a big advantage.

Some real leadership is shown by Tom Watson early on. Laney Watkins is the captain. But Watson says, "He said that if he qualified for the team, he would want to play as well. I told him no way. I thought the same but when I got into the job, I knew that to be captain and play well was impossible.

It wouldn't be fair to them nor to his own golf." Just interesting. So presented without COVID. Interesting. That's all.

I'm sure the rider cup is a much smaller deal though. It is probably way easier to pick up. Rider cup prices are $200 for general admission. It's not a new thing that rider cup tickets are very expensive. They're expecting 1,500 media credentials to be issued. Tickets are hot there just eight years after they failed to sell out 25,000 tickets

at Mirfo Village in 87. Hospitality tents are up to 56 from just the 15 and 87. Golf's booming, man. Golf is booming. Yeah.

I'm going to move quickly through this next part. Davis loved one's his ninth PJ tour event at the Freeport McMurren Classic. He needed to win to get in the masters, which kind of amazed me. For Davis love, but he did it.

Duval another great finish, he finished third.

Duval at the fifth on the money list of weird note that week. Tim Finchum stops by Springfield, Missouri to present John Q. Hamons with an artist rendering of the world golf village, which is set to be the new international home. For the game of golf. For the love of golf.

You need to go.

“How many fucking hours has fed the car because of that?”

Driving down to St. Auguste to that hellhole. Not a hellhole, Dage. Hamons will be building a massive resort hotel and convention center at World Golfville. It's just outside St. Auguste, which will include a 75,000 square foot golf hall of fame. Construction to begin in September is anticipated open in September 1997.

And Finchum says it's not going to be a static. Once you've seen it, you've done it kind of facility. It's going to be a living, breathing, highly interactive audio visual experience. Which everything I've ever heard about that is literally the exact opposite of how that ended up working up. God, it just, it could be.

It is a good idea, genuinely. Like golfers love golf. They would love a space like this. It's just not that. Didn't get the digital maths in the middle of nowhere.

You know, it's just hard to, hard to draw people in the IMAX theater was sick. I did go there a lot. Similar to how we did 1994, we were not going to be covering the majors in detail here. You can check out the 1995 major championships in episodes 669 of this here podcast. Going to greet detail of all those, but of course Ben Crenshaw wins the masters.

The next week in 1995. Bob Tway wins the MCI Classic at Heritage at Tarbertown. Seventh career title defeats Nolan Hanky and two playoff holes.

First win for Tway since 1990.

Jim Gallagher Jr. breaks through wins his fourth PGA Tour event. Wins by one over Sluman and Peter Jacobs and again Jacobs and absolutely fucking people up back then.

Some world news that week, that was the week of the Oklahoma City bombing. And players were wearing pins on their hats, ribbons on their hats for that one. Neil, we were surprised in 1994. The name pain steward didn't come up a whole heck of a lot. Kind of struggle with this game in this time period, but he wins the shell.

Houston open his ninth career PGA Tour event came from six shots down. Beating Scott Hoke in a playoff. It snapped a four year win the streak for steward. Hoke had a seven shot lead at one point and said after word quote, you can print it now.

Hoke as in choke. That's good stuff. Oh, man. How about that? I mean, he was already called that after the 1989 masters.

His lead was six shots with seven holes to go over steward. He also made a 35 footer for birdie on 18 just to get into the playoff.

“That's how badly it went on the previous five holes.”

Fulton alum, do we have less chokers in golf these days? Technology, man. I, right? Yeah, I think it truly. That's the outside.

It's just less downside. Right. I just, as every time we go through this, there's like man, people used to. And hutter technology. Do you remember trying to make three footers with like a ping answer?

Like back on the day. Oh my god, you could not close the club face on that. It was a disaster. Yeah. So it's a very good point.

Fulton alum was de-cute. He did not show up for his tea time. Did not get his wake up call. Um, post tough. Come on, man. Calquins the bell-south classic by two shots over.

Jim Gallagher Jr. Uh, who'd win twice this year.

Two bonerups and a third all in 1995.

“Uh, one of the third round co-leaders was Steven Kepler.”

He was bidding to become the first club pro to win on the P.J. Torsen's 1974 played a good find around finished in third place. Um, Kepler's a British citizen played college golf at FSU. Ernie Ells wins the GT Byron Nelson golf classic. It's just his second P.J. tour win.

But it's his 15th worldwide victory. This is at TPC for seasons. VJ sing wins the Bua Classic the next week. His third career title second of the year. Five whole playoff over Doug Martin.

It's his second one in three years at Westchester for V.J. V just 32 years old. A lot here about only 70,000 fans showed up for this week. New York golf fans are just taking a beating for this one. Uh, the schedule change, which we talked about in the 94 episode.

Uh, going from one week before the U.S. opened to mid May. Absolutely crushed the field. That switch came after Jack Nichols pressured the tour for, uh, uh, led to the memorial and the camper open who wanted later dates on the calendar as well. Triggery question again. The Bua Classic.

What tournament is this now? Uh, Trueest. It's not. You got to think outside the box of this.

I know I'm trying to, I'm trying to trace all this. It wouldn't, I mean, it's not like the, like, the rocket. No, it's, it's, it's, it's. Trying to think like to move to higher levels again.

“And then, oh, well, that's what I was going to say.”

It was the Barclays and then the Northern Trust and now FedEx. It's exactly right. I should have told my gut.

That was my first to my first thought.

Weirdest tournament Wikipedia page ever of just, yeah, that was, those two do not feel like the same event from big to public. Yeah. But there is a, like, my, my section kick. Kicks off.

Uh, the FedEx ain't too classic. Say what? My, my section kicks off July 2nd FedEx ain't too classic. But different turns are nuts if that's Harrison Fraser and, you know, things, things like Daniel Burger, things of that nature.

Different, different, different turn of it. Because yeah, that, that turn of it. You think the two turn of it's admit that they're the same turn of it. That are both fun. They do FedEx.

Yeah, I don't know why you would think that. Oh, my bad. Also, just another little, you know, from 30 years ago, look at. Big markets.

We're all chasing big markets. Here here's an article about man. There's just a lot more to do in these big markets. It might not be the only game in town this time of year. Yeah.

Yep.

On to colonial Tom Layman wins a second.

Just his second career PGA tour event makes a 24 foot bird on 18 to win by one over Craig Perry. It's just the third birdie on the 18th to win the tournament in the events 49 year history. This is where I'm going to pause to just call out the consecutive winners on tour that we've gone through. That we've gone through this year. Phil Mechelson, VJ Singh, Peter Jacobson, Peter Jacobson, Kenny Perry, Corey Pavan, Nick Faldo,

Marco Mira, Lauren Roberts, Lee Janssen, Davis Love, Ben Crenshaw, Bob Twey, Jim Gallagher, Jr.

were won by major champions, and we're not done with this run as well. An elk one to start the year. And for the majority of the top 10 being international players, that's heavy duty list of Americans. So what's we credit that's a strength of the euro tour. But also just like maybe not brand names, but still it's a lot of depth in the US ranks this year.

This is the only event to do all also. Sorry. But it's a 23 year old guy that's like about to break the door down. This is the only event on the PJ tour counter that's not sponsored. South Western Bell declined to renew its agreement after the 94 tournament.

But the tour is committed to colonial through at least the next three years. And would eventually be master card that takes over in a masterful sales. Time is a black circle. Shout out to Dean and Deluca. Shout out to Schwab.

I mean, good Lord. Crumb Plaza. That's incredible. This is, I'm curious if you found a follow up to this part, Neil. And this time here at Finch and said he would support a trim of exempt players on the tour from 125 players to 115 for the 1997 season.

It will be voted on here shortly.

“But I think that vote does eventually pass here in just a couple of weeks.”

But needed to go, I think I'll get there.

And this would basically the idea here to help more graduates from tour school.

The policy board as past the three changes on the meeting on the six which proposed reducing those exempt cards. Restricting graduates from from cue school from top 40 and ties to just the top 40 and reducing PGA section openings in each tournament from five down to three. But it's thus be reviewed by the pack and membership before requests is made for board ratification later in this year. Because I don't think this ever happened. I don't think they might down the way 15 anything here.

Okay. Memorial tournament. I would have been here for this. Greg Norman wins his 15th PGA tour title. He won this after a six week layoff with an injury.

He won by four over Duval. Calc and Steve Elkington. A big rain week in Dublin, Ohio. As you might imagine. Chief leather.

Curse of leather lips. Were this a kid is out? No. Every 17 years. There was a four.

“And I guess that would have been what 87 before that.”

Yeah. We're the castucadas. Yeah. So my graduation summer was filled with cicadas. It's how I remember that.

Lee Janson wins his sixth career.

He won again won the Kemper open second of the year.

One of the playoff over Cory Paving at TBC Potomac. Finch him in this time here. Talk about the Philly market. Love getting event in Philly. Found that pretty roll-up say on the same thing.

Love the Philly market. Love getting event there. So. Takes us to US open. Cory Paving wins that at Shinnecock.

And then the last event in my coverage. Greg Norman again wins in Hartford. Wednesday's 16th PJ Tour event after finishing runner-up the previous week at Shinnecock. One by two over Kirk Triplet and Dave Stockton and Grant Wait. Chipped in for an eagle in the 15th hole.

I could not find if he was stopped by the rough. Left of that green or not. But did chip in for eagle on 15. Ryder Cup points to end because at this point. Cory Paving Tom Layman Davis.

Love film Nicholson Lauren Roberts Ben Crunchoff. Peter Jacobson. Jay Haas. Mark Calconvicki Kenny Perry. Facts in in Jansson are tied at 11th Curtis Stranger's in 20th Fred couple's not in the top 20 at this point.

“And what's the selection process at this time, Charlie?”

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Tell him we sent you back to the pod. All right, deal with that. I hand the reins over to you for the second half of 1995. Turn it up. Let's go.

It's good stuff, Sally. Listen, there's going to be some. There's some patterns developing. Some names we're going to see early. Just some scene setting for what's going on in the summer of 95.

Biggest movie this summer. What does it teach? I don't know, Jurassic Park. No, that's too late. To independent today.

That's bad man forever. Oh, sure. Tell Kilmer. Jim carries the Ridler. Tommy Jones is two face open June 16th.

Then record 52.8 million dollar weekend.

184 million domestic haul.

Song of the summer.

“It's all I tipped the mocker rate earlier.”

No, it's not yet. It takes off in 96. Is it kiss from Rose? That's one of them.

It's another song of the song.

I mean, that's from the movie, right? Yeah, yeah. Sealed don't call me sting. Yeah. From Batman, but waterfalls by TLC.

He boys left. I and Chile were we're kind of we're doing it. A lot of people thought it was about a guy named Jason waterfalls, which it was not. Yeah. Best selling book.

It's got to be Michael Crichton. Close. Close. You're in the right bridge. John Grishon.

The Rainmaker. Okay. And then Windows 95 was launched August 24th. Amazon.com. So it's very first.

I love this company. Amazon.

So it's first book in July in 95.

Jerry Garcia dies. Great for that. August 9th. 95. 53.

Just a cultural gut punch. Yeah. So yeah. And then sports back job.

“Talk about baseball's just kind of in the.”

The throws of a of labor disagreement. So that's that's kind of the background. So starting July as we just learned FedEx ain't Jude Classic. Not the current FedEx ain't Jude Classic. But there was a FedEx ain't Jude Classic.

It's one by Jim Gallagher Jr. Just a quick apology. Jim was not familiar with the game. I see you ball in in 1995. And this is this is now.

We're into what you lie. July. Yeah. Sounds hot as hell. Yes.

This is Jim's fifth and final PGA tour win. I had nine total professional wins. One tour championship in 1993. I need to give TPC Southwin some credit here. I was thinking about it as like some course that was built 10 years ago.

But around a while. For sure. Kind of an OG tour stop. TPC Southwin was designed by Rob Ron Pritchard with consulting from Hubert Green and Fuzzy Zeller. Is that guy burgers 59?

Was there? I think it was in Memphis. We don't have to spend a lot of time on that. But I was going to reinforce your point that the place has been around for a while. That was classic in 1977 at Colonial Country Club.

Oh, gov at Tennessee. Close. If, if, throughout my eye overview of Google is correct. Through the whole testimony. And I should preface this by saying, you know,

Shout out to Dan Card. I'm not a historian. Sure. Yeah. So, I'm worried.

We're approaching two hours. Yeah. We're going to start to get loose here. I actually talked. I'm in on the great more.

All right. So next up. Motor roll a western open. Don't call me the BMW Championship at Cog Hill. Oh, no, no way.

Shout out to the WGA and Evan Scholars everywhere. Billy May Fair wins by one at minus nine. On the 72nd hole in a five way tie. Stuff's a seven iron from 178. Hold out a five footer to win.

Closing with a 67. Despite winning one of the oldest non majors on tour, or maybe the oldest. May Fair was not exempt into the open. So he skipped saying answers and he says, quote,

After the ride is, yeah, good week for me to take off. More on Billy. Just keep him in mind as we, as we keep going. Say what you will about the problems of pro golf these days. I don't, I feel like we've squashed a lot of these qualification issues.

“I'm trying to remember the last time that we really had it like,”

how is that guy not in X, Y, and Z event? I feel like we've, you know, we don't shout out a lot of the slow progress, but shout out to that one. I thought you were going to say squashed a lot of Billy May Fair, because that's also happened to us.

We had Glenn all day. We had Billy Play Fair. We've got all the cast of characters popping up right now. Moving right along here in the mid July, we've got the senator, I like beer classic.

And he's a bush golf classic in King's middle. Yeah, yeah, Williamsburg Virginia Ted tree, but break through win for the big hitting.

Pennsylvania is first of two career titles.

It's a birdie fest week before the open. Kind of the original, maybe John Deer here. I would say legitimately the first quote, like, I know the name Ted tree, but the first quote, no name winner since January 15th,

John Morris winning the Hawaiian Open. That ends the run of like extremely recognizable names. He listened back to the 94 pod very different year. 94 was just like all these olds winning and some really random stuff like 95 was like dude,

we got some dudes now. So then we're right along to the open. 124th open championship played at the old course. St. Andrews, July, 28th, 23rd. Winner is John Deerly score of 282, six under.

One in a playoff, four hole aggregate playoff over a Constantino Roca for more on this reference. NLU deep dive dive deep into this one. This one kind of had everything. Home of golf in Icarito, a reverse Icarito, a playoff,

You know, a lot going out good interviews.

Just good stuff at this at this open. I was thinking about this during research.

“Is there a bigger contrast in winner vibe in course five?”

You know, you got the home of the RNA and then you got daily recovery alcoholic butt cheeks. All that stuff. It's an interesting contrast there. It is.

Gosh, I feel like I had something. Had to read winning the master. Yeah. I'm saying, I think John has been laying up at the masters, but Patrick Reed probably a better example of that.

But this one's up there. I mean, it's funny. Bryson at Pinehurst, a little, but also kind of not. If you've been to pinehurst. Yeah.

Yeah. It's a really interesting. Interesting question. I also think that I'm. I'm, I'm thankful we did the 94 episode.

And you guys reheated at the beginning of this one. But, you know, I'm seven years old at this one. I, I know John daily. I know he smashes it. But like I didn't remember the leave of absence and like.

All of that stuff. Just to set that context of coming back and winning at the, I mean, you can open at the old course. Well, after elevating the like Cinderella overnight. Drive to Crooked Stick like, you know,

“that's almost more of like a, who the hell is this guy?”

And that's like, oh, now he's got two majors. I guess so. It's real deal stuff. Always noted too. I think he's one of it.

And I have to double check this. But I remember looking this up at some point. Like one of if not the only American to like win a major. In a writer cup year and not make the writer cup team. And he did it twice.

I have to double check that. But I, there's something a lot. Maybe he's the only one that had done a twice. But yeah. I mean, there's one more I can think of.

Recently. What was that? Phil. Oh, yeah. I think that was ahead of that.

I might have looked at it back in the day. I think it was what it was. Yeah. And just, yeah, the Icarito. So Constitino Roca.

Sorry, refresh my memory. He, he chunked the chip chunked the chip. And then he makes a long put or not. Yeah, from the value.

“So reverse it created going to play off.”

Michael Campbell. 26 year old from New Zealand was the 54. So a whole leader shot 76 on Sunday.

Tie for third with Mark Brooks.

And then Norman kind of favorite. Fowdo favorite. Norman was T 15. Fowdo T 39. Never really in it.

This was also Arnold Palmer's final open championship. And Tiger Woods is first open championship as the rating. U.S. Am champ. He was T 68 plus seven as the.

I think he was the low am though. Again, go back to the 95 majors episode. Episode six 69 for a ton ton more details on 95. Michael Campbell got boneed by helicopter. A helicopter issue.

And like it was almost late for the tea time and ended up him. Contributing him not winning the the open championship. So episode six 69. It's all right. So that's the open.

We're going to spend more time on the opposite. Feel that the deposit guarantee golf classic in anandale golf. golf as we remember. Mississippi winner is Ed Dock Dordy.

First and only tour wind.

You guys know anything about it. About. No, I can't I. Zero points. All right.

Good. The event spent 26 years kind of on the JV squad. It was nicknamed the Mississippi masters before it became a. Uh, fully sanctioned tour stop. Uh, as I said, opposite field event.

Uh, Kirk triplet was T for this week. And he was quoted as saying this this money spends the same as the stuff. One at St Andrews. Hell yeah, Kirk. Great.

Like that. So Dordy was a Vietnam veteran and received a purple heart and two bronze stars. So he was drafted in the Army after high school. Uh, and did one tour in Vietnam. And I found two great profiles on him on on on dock.

One from trend. Uh, trendham golf history. This shout out to these got this great website. Uh, spelled T R E and H AM. I come across them on the last deep dive.

Uh, just kind of like fun off the wall history stuff. Uh, about golf figures. And then another site called hashtag veteran of the day. So from trendham, after graduating from St James Catholic High School Ed, Dordy went to work at his local post office in Marcus Hook, Pennsylvania.

One day while delivering the mail, he had to deliver his own US Army draft notice. Hmm. So that is the day goes on to highlight. He was a stud baseball player in high school, grew up in Chester, PA. Sounds like he was getting some sniffs.

Uh, and was was going to go to spring training. I think for the pirates. Uh, he had a try. I was going to be in 1968. He gets drafted and by February of 68, stationed on the Cambodian border at a place called Come Duck. Uh, in May of 68, his unit was attacked overrun in a battle that lasted three days.

The battle was part of the famed Ted offensive. Um, listen, this is a, this is a rabbit hole. If you want more, I, I, I'm pleading to go check out the Battle of Come Duck on Wikipedia page. It's a robust. Um, anyway, better the day, uh, wraps up a quote in the escape attempt.

Uh, do already found a fallen sergeant carried him onto an aircraft that was about to take off.

As the aircraft was taking off was hit by enemy fire, went into a spiral.

Doerty miraculously got himself and the sergeant off carried him across the one right under enemy fire. Upon reaching the medic office, the sergeant was treated doerty suffered minor injuries. So he's awarded the two bronze stars for Valor and purple heart after the battle. Uh, Doerty and his, uh, his squad are, our station dead landing zone Ross, LZ Ross, brother. Uh, the squadron has been, uh, given 144 baseballs from the Boston Red Sox.

So in between on duty shifts, uh, Doerty and his team would pitch into ammo pits. Uh, and then he is, is, uh, love of baseball is reignited when Chicago Cubs player Ernie Banks came to visit LZ Ross. Mr. Cubs. Mr. Cubs and one of the highlights for Doerty of the service playing catch with banks. So back to my hitters at Tranham, Doerty was sent back to the states for duty at Fort Lewis in Washington in 1969. So he did one tour. He volunteered for the baseball team, but he was told baseball required, uh, it was too much time.

“And since he saw combat, I, I think they needed him for training, uh, for soldiers heading overseas.”

So the base also had a golf course. Ed picks up golf. He, he hadn't really played. So he kind of gets the bug. So he's discharged in 69. And a friend took him out to Edgemont Country Club back home in Pennsylvania. He gets a job at the course and, uh, in just, you know, starts grinding. So once winter rolls around, he lands a job at Con St. Croix in the Virgin Islands.

Works for golf professional Mike Reynolds down there, uh, who also kind of coaches him up. And so now he's working on his game 12 months a year. So that's 69. By 74, Doerty became a PGA tour member in March of, uh, I guess, uh, he was kind of a PGA professional. And then PGA touring member by March 75, uh, and he began playing PGA tour events Monday, qualifiers. He finished his T 22nd at the 1975.

1975. 1975. 1975. So we're 20 years before he's waiting on the PGA. Yes.

And, and five years after he picked up the game, right? So both of those to be all right. Okay. So you hit in these T 22 at the PGA Championship at 75. Uh, most years he was able to earn enough money to stay exempt, but there were numerous interruptions due to elbow and shoulder surgeries. Um, okay.

“So again, he gets his first and only career PGA tour went at the age of 47 in 1995.”

Uh, opposite the British open. Uh, he did lose an apply off at the Greater Milwaukee open in 1990. Uh, who is it? And it's very relevant to some names we've been throwing out today. Uh, Jim Gallagher Jr.

Boom, Jim Gallagher Jr. Boom, Jim Gallagher Jr. I see you ballad you. I'll pull. Uh, okay.

So he never played in the open.

Um, but because of this, when he did play in the Masters in 96, Miss the Cut. In 1998, Dorety became, uh, began to play on the senior tour. He, uh, he won $5.8 million in official earnings after he reached the age of 50. So he's kind of a, uh, what's his name? Um, like Scott Perrell or someone like.

Yes. Yeah. And the guy from New Zealander. Uh, what's his name? Steven Alker.

All the Alker. Yeah. Just like late, late, Blumer. I love this.

“Um, so he enjoyed a far greater degree of success on the, uh, the senior, the Champions”

Tour senior circuit than regular career. Uh, shares the record for best 54 hole driving accuracy in Champions for history. Uh, he hit 42, 42 fairways at the ace group classic at night and 2005. Who are the other two guys tied who, who else has hit 42 or 42 fairways for. Uh, good guess, but no Calvin Pete.

Yes. Calvin Pete did it at the 1996 VFW senior championship and hail. Or when did it end in 2010 in sure classic at rock barn. Great sponsorship by ensure there. They're target market like that.

Um, best season ever of driving accuracy on the Champions tours. Joe Durant 86% in 2014. Think about hitting 36% of your fairways. I don't know. I don't even, or it wouldn't be fun.

Yeah. It's just, you know, he's just in the middle of the fairway every time. I don't know. All right. All right.

Later. I landed this playing at a three point turn out of this digression. After his PGA career, he'd be getting more intentional.

He was, he's always been in the train.

Model trains. It's whole life. I thought I couldn't get any better. I know. So that it all hurts too.

He opened up after he stopped playing or maybe during he opens up a model train shop in Garnet Valley, Pennsylvania, specializing in Lionel and American flyer trains. I often runs the largest set with his grandchildren putting up five trains on the eight by 16 track. He also has an extensive collection of guitars and pinball machines.

And he's still a lot. I was like, yo, maybe we could. Yeah. Yeah. I guess.

Oh, sure. Good. He's my new best friend. I had some issues. Where does he live?

Cancer Agent Orange from his Vietnam stuff. But he's still alive. I think he lives in Port St. Lucy now in Florida.

It feels like Doc went pro in retirement activities. Like as a 24 year old. I just like got really good at golf, trains, guitars, pinballs. I mean, this guy's, this is my dude. So shout out to Doc.

That's one of the best dives.

“One of the best digressions I think we've ever had on this podcast.”

That's good stuff. I will send a text before we're done recording to see if we can get in touch with this guy. Sounds like a ledge. All right. Moving on.

IDR Classic, a pleasant valley in Sutton, Massachusetts.

Fred Funkster, winner, second career.

Torwin. This is New England's longest running summer stop. The old New England classic. Win number one of two for for funk in this like back half of the season. So he'll go on a win later in the year.

Not much didn't have much here. I'm going to keep moving. I'm trying to try to keep us moving like kind of one big feature each month. So let's get the August view. Open out to be confused with the view of classic or the view of invitation.

But the view of open is in Michigan. Grand block at Warwick Hills golf and country club. What he asked it? First career tour win in a playoff. The kind of the coming out.

He's the 1995 PJ tour rookie of the year. So Austin starts to start to buck his head here up in Michigan. Controversially wins it over David Duval. Yeah, it was of this win. Duval had a it was higher on the money list.

Like he had better permits. But did not have a win. Well, this is like what would it be.

Eric Cole Ludwig kind of situation.

Were they in the same year? Eric Cole and somebody. I can't remember who was. Benny booms. Yeah.

Huh. So what he asked us on the scene.

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He's gone.

“He want a couple of times in Europe, which is not counting the points list.”

And like he's, you know, the whole couple's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, one twice row in the European tour. Curtis Strange gets the other captain's pick.

And Curtis is missed four of the last seven cuts coming into this. And is like, oh, man. This is, you know, if you thought JT and Rome was an issue. This was like he's a little past his prime. It's name only.

And your bypass and deval and a lot of other names here to go down the list here. And take Curtis Strange. This better not backfire on you. It backfired big time. He went.

Oh, and three lost his singles match in the US lost by one point overall. And lost a nine seven lead in singles. The quotes afterwards from Strange. Sorry, if I'm jumping you on the knee, this kneel. But yeah, it's frightening thought of what I'll face tomorrow.

11 guys fought their hearts out. And I didn't play well. I knew what would happen if I didn't perform. I deserved whatever I'd get in the press the next couple days. But it won't compare to how I beat myself up.

And you mentioned Gallagher captain. What was he Owen? So Gallagher. He was Owen six as a player in the Ryder Cup.

Meaning he'd been a part of six teams that never won the Ryder Cup.

“I believe was an assistant captain for two.”

Ryder cups though both of those teams lost. He was the captain. The most two recent ones in 91 and 93 that Europe lost both of those. He was Owen 10 in Ryder cups. He was convinced to captain it a third time here in 95 the US.

So Corrie Payton chips in on Saturday for the last point of the day to go up 97. And the US like celebrated a bit too much. And Gallagher turned to his wife. And has a quote there and says they were celebrating tonight. Europe would celebrate tomorrow.

It turned to his wife and said I got a feeling. That was the original. I got a feeling kind of thing here. But you never beat Bernard Gallagher. Gallagher 11 times in a row.

And he makes it happen. Now the US will be trying that approach with Jim Furick. This upcoming year.

So we'll see how that goes.

Yeah. So as you mentioned Nick Fauto beats Curtis Strange. Deciding point there. And Philip Walton last man to qualify for Europe. Close down Jay Haas on 18.

“Gallagher's quote is saying I put my 18 right in the middle.”

Right in the middle of it and came through. There are also two hole in ones for for Europe. That week Howard Clark on Sunday on the 11th in Constantinople. Roca Saturday for somes just fun little. A little wrinkle.

I'm trying to do the math. Like how old would Curtis Strange be? I'm not trying to be in boarding an ages tier. But I'm tying a couple couple threads together. I mean famously the next year in Milwaukee.

He's doing the tiger. He looks old in that video. This is a year before that 40. There's only one U.S. player under the age of 30 on the team. It's of course Philip Alfred Nicholson.

Uh, and let's think of a walker guy. Yeah. And he went three and out. Phil went three and out. One other fun wrinkle.

I found. Lanny Watkins captain. He was reportedly so stunned. After the loss that he pulled out the wrong speech. He pulled out his victory speech.

The closing ceremonies. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. You got to start it down that track. And oh, wow, wrong, wrong piece of paper. The all-side just calls it the history's most underrated rider cup.

A template for kind of what happened to Brookline in 99 and Medina in 2012. Oh, my god. That's, that's bleak. One thing I found during four ball play Peter Jacobson and Brad Faxon are playing together. I think it's on the seventh hole.

Faxon hits ball. Right, it goes into a unbeknownst to Jacobson. It goes into a creek. Faxon takes a drop and ends up holding out, makes a bogey. And Jacobson is green side. Hits a chip well past the hole.

Goes up scoops his ball, thinking that Faxon's already in for four. He was not in for five. He comes back to him and says, hey, yeah, nice four. Faxon's like, I took a drop. I made five.

And they ended up losing the hole and losing that match. And it's noted there. Ironically, Jacobson had been bickering with golf world writers about what he felt where two harsh criticisms of the U.S. team included in that criticism was suggestion that Jacobson's concentration was suspect.

So like the U.S. has been criticized the bunch leading up into this rider cup. And he just plays directly into the hands right there of, you know, poor communication or concentration, should say. So come out of that back into the PGA tour kind of rounding into the Torch Championship. So we're in October.

Buick challenge and the Buick event. Caled Gardens down in Pine Mountain, Georgia.

Kind of remote court, but stop on the PGA tour. And on the 94 episode, but Fred Funk wins here.

So second win, both in the back half of the year.

So it's also, there's an opposite field event to the rider cup. It was the Quad City Classic in DA Wybring won that one. So Quad, Quad City was opposite the rider cup in 1995 was a shocker to me. Yeah. Then the Walt Disney.

Plurled Oldsmobile Classic. We go right from Buick to Oldsmobile. Disney courses down in Lake Buinavista, Florida, DJ's favorite place. Got married on the water slide nearby. Winner Brad, doctor, dirt, Bryant.

First and only tour win. When the 18 under range short and 54 hole tournament wins over house Sutton and Ted Treba. So, you know, some guys stayed hot. Turned in the champion.

Yeah. First win for Brian age 40. One is his 18th season and 475th career start.

“I think we did a profile on him from the Torch Championship in 94.”

So he gets it done the next year. But he was kind of in the running for a win. It was a heartbreaker in 94. His younger brother, Bart Bryant, also a Torch pro. Later one, the memorial.

The memorial. The memorial. It was in no place. Oh, five. Rest to peace.

So, doctor, dirt gets it done. You know, DJs, we said earlier those, those tapes of. Of Bart and Brad Bryant. Those are. I love trading for those.

That's right. The match, Jimple, that a guy by the name of Bart Bryant. Could win the memorial. It was like hitters only that ever won the memorial. Like in the Tiger era, too.

And he just like wanted out of nowhere. And everybody in Dublin was completely stunned. It's the original Willie McGurt. Exactly. Then we go to Las Vegas International.

TPC Summerland. Jim Furick. First career. PGA Tor wins. Go wins.

My one over Billy May Fair. Who continues to stay hot. Great photos from that one. Awesome photos. I actually have a dialed up.

“It's not not up in the studio right now.”

But the showgirls with the young Furick. Good. Good stuff. Go seek that out.

Furick shared the third round lead after 65.

And then fourth round 67 tied him with May Fair before he closed it out. It's a five round format. So this is a 90 hole event. Which I thought was that. Yeah.

And then Furick goes on to win in Vegas again in 98 and 99. So a happy Vegas. A happy place for Jim Furick. Yeah. Desert guy.

Here's on the state. Yeah. And then rock and terror. Texas open in San Antonio at La Cantara golf course. Duffy Waldorf gets his first career win.

Colorful tie tie. Yeah. We're sure it's done. Great name. Yeah.

He'll be kind of a staple on to work. For the next 10, 15 years. Okay. Interesting stuff here. Tor championship.

It is at Southern Hills. In Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1995. Late October. Again, just want to call out.

“We can move the torch championship around.”

We used to. So that's let's let's just get that out of the way. The winner is Billy May Fair. He wins by three over Cory Pave and Steve Elkington. Guys.

Absolutely brutal, brutal tournament. It nobody. So it's gusting up to 40 miles an hour hard set up only 14 of 120 rounds all week broke part. May Fair wins at even par. He's the only player to reach even par over four rounds wins by three.

And ABC broadcast balloon literally blew into the trees. The field finished a combined plot of 322 over par. 157 shots higher than the top 30 shot at the. At the same at the US opened that year. So proper.

Proper test index is off the charts here. May Fair should 73 in the final round. And as I said, even par for rounds. He was one of only two golfers who collected more than one sub par round on the week. So guys are just getting absolutely vaporized at Southern Hills.

It remains the highest winning score in Tor championship history. Couple notable things or one other notable thing. PGA champion Steve Elkington missed a three foot par put on 18. That cost him $58,500. Dropping him into a tie for second with Cory Pave and so two major winners both finish second. I just found that interesting because of my my guys do sink unfinished business.

Missing short puts on 18 just time as a flat circle. The win, which is May Fair second of the year was worth $540,000.

It vaulted him him in just second on the money list at 1.54 million for the year.

About 111k behind Greg Norman. So I this took me on a little deep dive on Billy May Fair.

So kind of balled out Arizona state graduate and won the Haskins award in 1987 as well.

He has a very interesting PGA tour record. What do you guys know what that is? A record in quotes. Those nine hole score. Maybe, but that's not what I'm going at.

Because he shot.

“Oh, he'd one put it every green in nine holes, I think.”

Maybe, but that's not what I'm looking for. He's the only guy to be Tiger Woods in a playoff on the PGA tour. In history. Yeah. Out of 12 tigers 11 and one and he beat Tiger at the 1998 Nissan open in a playoff.

I just never wanted LA. Yeah. And I didn't really actually run the list. You got that close in LA. But that's just, I thought that was just a wild stat.

So it's also just weird Billy, Billy May Fair. This is a me thing.

Billy May Fair is just impossible to picture as a younger person.

Yeah. You know, there's a lot of these guys on my go. Okay. I see how you court cave. And I see how you used to use to ball out.

Billy May Fair. You just look like you were 50. Like the old. She's kind of a brand brand name on the PGA tour forever. But I don't know that much about them.

And the highest ever was ranked was 25th on the in the WDR, which I found surprising. You want to tour championship like whiffs of Rhine Moore.

“I think a lot of people like to say, you know, similar kind of.”

Junior per amateur career. Yeah. Just like a absolute stud college player won everything in the amateur golf. And then just had a super nice career. You know.

So a couple of facts. He got testicular cancer in 2006. He had a successful surgery in August of that year. A return of the PGA tour two weeks later. Guys, a grinder ends up finishing as the medalist of the 2010 PGA tour cue school.

So loses card goes back to cue school wins his card back. It's back on the PGA tour at age 44 finishes a hundred and ninth on the money list. And 2010 keeps conditional status in 2011. Okay. So then things get interesting.

I didn't know any of this 2019 he was diagnosed with autism. It's a stick with me here. Oh, he said and then I watched, I ended up watching like a 30 minute podcast with him on like some autism website. So he's diagnosed. He says the diagnosis changes life on this 2019 podcast.

He said his wife. This is the second wife. Both his wives were named Tammy spelled differently. First wife.

“I think with a lie, second one with an eye.”

Ron Swanson. So he said his wife demanded that he get tested. And then the host. They weren't great hosts, but they were like, why did you get tested? And he goes on to say that.

That's a serious story. Sorry. It was all over the place. No, that's they right. That's a drive by sorry about that.

Because on to say that a couple months. This person's fucking podcast host, the real. I know. Now that's bad stuff. All right.

Sorry. God. So on to say that a couple months before his diagnosis. He had a situation with the PGA tour rules officials. There was a ruling that he felt, and he felt they quote, he got bullied by them.

He didn't understand the ruling or the disqualification. It all happened a lot quicker than his brain could comprehend it two or three weeks later. He got tested and diagnosed and a diagnosis brought a lot of clarity to why he struggled in school. Why I've been labeled as he said weird or cocky or standoffish. He's like, I'm not rain man, but I'm a highly functioning autist.

So I was like, okay.

So then along with his family, may first start a nonprofit foundation.

So providing support for both amateur professional athletes and their families who struggle with spectrum related disorder. I'm like, all right. This is great. So now I'm like, well, what was the DQ situation? I've got to go look at this.

So it happened in November of 2, 2019. Michael Bamberger wrote a really long article about this. That I would encourage this being a big deal. Yeah. And the headline is the anatomy of a DQ.

Billy May Fair broke two rules and seven holes and things got really weird. And it's just Bamberger at his finest. He just breaks this thing down over. It's like 5,000 words. It's awesome.

It's golf dot com article from from 2019. So it's on the Champions Tour. Second of the last Champions Tour event at Sherwood Country Club. A lot of finals in Phoenix where May Fair wins. So Billy, you know, who was a staple on the Champions Tour in this time.

He's tied for the lead on Saturday and he's playing with the mechanic. McGill on hell and heaven is. May Fair hits a drive in the left for rough. They can't find it for a while. Finally, they find it.

May Fair is certain that they search for less than three minutes. He tries to get embedded ball relief. It doesn't get it ends up making seven moves on. He hits one left then later in the round. He hits one left of the green on 17 while addressing the ball.

It moves in the rough about six inches like significantly. He calls in rules guy. Says the ball moved, but he didn't put his club down or caused the move. Rules guys like he wasn't there. He's like, all right.

But there's a golf channel camera directly behind him. Lanny walkins is on the call. He's apoplectic. He's like, that's not what happened.

“So before he signs, after the round, they call him in the TV compound.”

He admits that he did cause the ball to move. So it's a two stroke penalty instead of a one stroke penalty, which would have been one stroke move the ball back to the original position. Signs for a 74 with two stroke penalty by the time he shows up for Sunday's round. A walking score in the group had called in to say that Mayfare took well over three minutes

back on the 11th hole. And that and find to fight his ball on 11. PGA tour officials review the tape overnight. And they time the search had four minutes and 55 seconds. So and the rules keep him mind.

And then he says, "Well, I have five minutes to search." Well, he's like, "Well, I have five minutes to search." And then he says, "Well, I have five minutes to search." So he starts to like get his, you know, it seems like it starts to get a little messy with the rules guy.

And the guy's like, "Well, the rule changes here. You only have three minutes." And he says, "I didn't realize that." Then the rules official explained to him that then you played the wrong ball. Because your ball technically is deemed lost after three minutes.

So the minute you finish the 11th hole, the minute you teed off on the 12th hole, you are now like you played the wrong ball and you can't fix it. The last six holes don't even count.

“So I think they even wiped away a score from Saturday.”

Because he was supposed to go back and play it from the tee. Because the three minutes were up. So he gets de-cued for this. And this is what leads to the autism diagnosis, which I just just like, "Whoa."

Now, Bamberger's article is a little less sympathetic. So he interviews May Fair for this. May Fair has a lawyer on the phone with Bamberger. You know, it's kind of a, you know-- Very testy. Yeah. And to be honest,

you know, talking to Champions Torra,

it seems like he's not the first time that Billis had this situation.

I don't think he'd ever been really dinged for rules and fraction, but it feels like it was there was chatter around this. So I didn't know anything about that. Another little digression that I wanted to hit on. It's a good, it's a good one. Good dive.

Not only that, if you remember this, leading this to this diagnosis for Billy May Fair, ultimately led to friend of the program, Joel Beal. He wrote about this for golf digests of, like, after this diagnosis came out for May Fair,

it led to Joel being diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder. Like, as a result of this incident, he wrote about that in degree detail for golf digests. It was an excellent, excellent eye-opening article of that, but he had not known that to that point in his life until this incident.

But is your tour champion in 1995? Fall series, November, December. These are tour sanctioned events, but unofficial. So they carry no official money or, you know, wins. Not really a real story of this.

Still spends the same. Yeah, that money spends the same though. So you got the Sarah, a lot of Mickey Mouse stuff going on. Sarah's in world open. That checked what we lawn.

Side of the great lady. [laughter]

“Oh, I think she's, I think she's actually heard, oh no.”

[laughter] So Frank novelo wins this one. So this was a short-lived gene-sarrison-branded international event at Chetoe Lawn, sure. Lincoln, Mercury, Cobblow, a classic out in Maui, Jim Furik wins here.

So the second title of the fall, obviously unofficial,

but, you know, hot rookie, kind of rookie, or post, you know, second sophomore season for Jim Furik. And you got the Mastercard PGA Grand Slam of Golf on Koli. Ben Crenshaw wins this. So it's a 36-hole exhibition among the years four major champions.

You got Crenshaw, Paven, Daily, and Elkington. Crenshaw wins this one. Maybe I think it's a good story. Maybe a good candidate for a little medium dive. At some point, the Grand Slam of Golf.

And especially, particularly, like, when it got off the rails. Shot-oh hair plate in one or something like that. Well, if you have something like Mike did get played in one of them, because one of the guys dropped out. He was there on vacation or something.

It's some good stuff. Then you've got the World Cup of Golf. And this is at Mission Hills Golf Club in Shenzhen, China. Should be a cool event. What about China, November 12th?

This is the 12th. This is the two-man, right? Yep.

Fred couples and Davis love the third when this one at 33 under par.

By 14 over Australians, Ogo and Allen B. First international golf tournament ever held on mainland China, a new Nicholas design, a real, you know, for the love of golf. We're going to globalize and couples in love want it.

So these guys used to beat up this tournament.

“And then you got the shark shootout at Surewood Country Club in California.”

Mark Calcavakia and Steve Okington. When this team event hosted by Greg Norman, that kind of takes us all the way back around to where we started, Zali, with the World Tour stuff. Skins game at Big Horn, Battle at Big Horn. We got Fred couples wins this one.

And then the J.C. Penny Classic is the Grant Thornton basically at Inisbrook.

Davis love and Beth Daniels take this one. What a weird year for Fred couples. He's kind of my takeaway at the end of this two and a half hours. It's like, so he wins. He wins a bunch, but just nothing that really matters.

Try to beat wins. Yeah, right? Wins overseas, wins overseas, wins the Grant, wins the World Cup, wins the, you know, it's just very funny. His Wikipedia page is wild of 15 career PGA Tor wins two players and a major in there.

You know, gets his gets good there. Has the three DP world European Tor wins the two this year Dubai and Johnny Walker. 33 other wins. 33. We have the J.C. Penny mixed team classic.

The Northwest Open again. A Johnny Walker World Golf Championship. The World Cup. Tell us Skins game. Lincoln Mercury.

Capitaloo invitation.

Another World Cup of golf.

Another capitaloo invitation. They're all in November. He's like eight straight wins in November between 93 and 95. I got it. And this is relevant.

I feel like couples has got to be saying to Norman like, dude, just don't play. You can just get this sign off man. Why have we got to blow it all up? Totally. He has nick day Mr. Skins.

He's also on his Wikipedia page. It's just fit. After Skins.

“So I tried to come up with like, what are my big takeaways?”

I got I think I got two of them. I think another year the shark. No, it doesn't want a major, but Norman Dominate. Kind of closed the book on one thing. The Anderson Consulting World Championship of golf was finalized on December 31.

Very Lane ended up winning that one, which I don't think he was in the original field that I listed off there. So I don't know why I need to dive into what happened there. Not to be confused with Kenny Perry Lane. Yeah.

Which we covered earlier. True. They don't this event only happened three years. 95 and 97 and 98. Kenny Perry Lane.

Very Lane had to replace somebody in the field. I don't know who that was. All right. So I got the year the shark. And you know, I mean, it kind of is just a the shark's ball at it until next year. And then it's just kind of the shark gets got what four months later at 96 masters.

So Greg Norm is the Wednesday Times doesn't want a major, but tops the money list tops the career money list. He's the PGA tour and PGA of America player the year. One of the buyer in Nelson Award for low scoring average at 69.06. It finishes the year at takes back world number one title from Nick Price.

He lost US open by two to Corey Pave and it's Chinacock. So yeah, balls out.

“And then I think the other one that's interesting.”

You have a bunch of guys playing really well. But you've got the four major winners. Crenshaw, Paven, Daily, Elkington other than elk. Just those are the only tournaments they won. It's not like Crenshaw went on some big run after this.

Paven played well had some good finishes, but didn't win again. Elquan twice. And then Paven and Elkington, these were their only majors of their career. So I just thought that was kind of interesting where you had guys that were really hot Jim Galler. Junior, Billy May Fair, but the major winners were kind of one awesome. Yeah.

Potentieless. Similar to this year. Yeah.

Money list, Norman May Fair, Janson third, Paven fourth, Elkington fifth, Davis loves sixth,

Jacobson seventh, Gallagher eighth, Vijay ninth, Markomira, tenth, average driving distance. And 262.7 yards. It is 305.3 here in the year of our Lord 2026. That is up 43 yards in 31 years. 155 of the current 159 players in the PGA to have a longer driving average than John Daley did at

289. That's Brian Campbell, Andrew Putnam, Davis, Chatfield and Brantz, not either the only ones not having it farther. Actually, did in 1995. That's it.

We're on blast. I'll start. Yeah. It's. Yeah, I don't know.

That's all I got. DJ, what do you think? I think that's great. That was a whirlwind, guys. Learned a lot.

You know, we got with lobbyists. We had a course building. We had a Vietnam dive. I wasn't expecting. It's really, it's good stuff.

Really good stuff. Yeah. I got to figure out what the hell happened in this interesting consulting World Championship. It should be golf and how we got it.

Yeah. I got a little very lean Wikipedia that I'm kind of trying to dive into as well.

Yeah.

“He lost in a playout that you're the smurfit European Open.”

And you know, he didn't qualify for the rider cup.

He passed away in 2022. Very lean, did. Okay.

I'll get back to you guys on that one.

“But, hey, thank you for being with us for another dive into another PGA tour season.”

Well, you guys joined me for 1996. So, signed me up. We must. We must.

We got a lot of years to go.

A lot of work to do. So, thank you everyone for tuning in. We'll see you back here next time. Cheers.