Coral Santoro: The #1 Reason Most People Never Reach Their Goals (Use THIS 1% Rule to Keep Making Progress When Motivation Disappears)

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“What do you successful people have, that people who don't make it don't have?”

They keep going, even when it stops being exciting. How do we stop comparing our timeline to everyone else's? Success does not have a finished line, so we can't compare something that does not exist. Once you believe you are better than anyone else, you're done. Carl Santoro, welcome to Onverbus, it's great to have you here.

Thank you so much for having me, and so excited. Carl, I've been such a fan of yours from afar. We don't know each other, we just met today, but I've been following your content.

It's always direct, it's clear, the message is easy to understand, easy to apply,

there are millions of people across the world that are following you, learning from you, and you just told me that the number one Google question about you is, is Carl Santoro AI? Well, I think we on this room can confirm that I'm not, so I love it. I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure.

“Is it true you're shuddy doing the first hologram ever?”

No, no, no, I'm not doing it. No, I love it. Yeah, I'm very much of it. How does that make you feel when people are asking that question? It is so funny, because I'm in the actual tech space, so I developed softwares.

I'm in an AI, and when they started asking me about this things, I'm like, it kind of makes sense, but at the same time, as soon as I started posting more content, a lot of the people started realizing it was not, I still could have a few questions here and there, but it was mostly about me coming into the space of social media, because what I do is like the fun side of my life, what I actually do is tech.

So I came into this space, and I understood it because no one had seen me before. And in this moment that we are, you don't know what's real or what's not. So I kind of understood it, and that's the point that I understood that I had to go more into stories. Show people a little bit here and they're about me being real.

Honestly, it was funny, and me being the first interview here, and I'm super happy that

people got to see them a real person. Absolutely. Talk to me about, if someone listens to this episode today, what do you want them to walk away with, what do you want them to feel, how do you want them to change their life? To be honest, like just like the name of the podcast, purpose, I got into social media and

everything that you see, I got into this space because I didn't want people to feel behind in life because of what they see. I feel like nowadays we can get confused very easily, and the men's side, I was talking about this the other day. If you are not flunting cash outside of Lamborghini and doing all these things that you

see, you're behind. If you're a woman, if you don't have a broken bag, and if you don't have, you know, bouquet of roses, I was out of a jet, oh my gosh, like I don't have the right person, and that is not real life.

“I hated the romanticism that we're seeing in entrepreneurship, just because real life is”

not doing a canva template and saying to people, do this course, and you're be financially free, and then people believe that, and that's not real life. We all have struggles, we all go through things in our lives, even if it's relationships or work, I want people that every time they listen to something, it's purpose, you're not behind, you're on track, you're not on a race with anyone, and that's why I love so

much everything that you portray, and that's why I want to come here so much, because this is real life. And I feel like the type of content that we put out, everyone relates in a different way. I feel like we're all in the same boat, but we all have different destinations.

We all have a problem, and it's not rare, but it's just how we can get support from

our online sub-utiful things that I've followed, a lot of the guests that have been here and have a voice, and I feel like we all have a voice, and we all have a story, and if

“we can put it out there, and people can relate in their own way, I think there's a purpose”

of life. You spoke about timelines there, you spoke about this idea of not being behind. How do we stop comparing our timeline to everyone else around us? And it feels like we're so overexposed, like you said, because the back and back, the bank balance, the jet, the whatever it may be.

Now, before you compare yourself to the 20 people in your class at school, now you can see what 20,000 people across the world are doing. How do we stop comparing our timeline to everyone else's? There's no race. They made us believe that there's an invisible finish line, and success does not have a finish

line. So we can't compare something that does not exist. I'm going to tell you a little bit about me. When I graduated from high school, I did not go with the traditional pathlets, say, I saw that my friends going to college doing all this college live, and I knew that college wasn't

per me. It was in my path.

And at first, it was when social media just started popping off, and I remember posting.

And I remember my saw co friends talking about me in group chats and stuff, and that's the thing that a lot of people are afraid to go out there because of the group, what will they say?

“And I was like, what will they say about what it's you will live?”

Let's not talk for a little bit then. When you make it, everyone knows you, everyone is your friend. So what I like to say is like, there is no race, there is no invisible finish line. You cannot compare to something that does not exist. When you follow your own path, when you follow your own passion, a lot of people will not

understand. That is for sure. When you're doing something different, people will tell you crazy. People will tell you, that's not the right path to go, and it's because they're talking about their insecurities, not about the reality of what you can portray.

So when I started on social media, I remember myself putting out there like, years ago, because I had an account, it was all about different things I want to have now. It was about fashion and trips and stuff. And I remember all this people that I thought were my friends, and if someone's listening to this and things that different friends are going to talk about you because you're

online, they're going to talk about me. And that's beautiful. And if you get four likes and all the people that you thought they were going to support you and you thought they're going to buy your product, you thought they were going to put a like on your new page for your brand and they don't, that is showing you who your true

circle is. That is showing you that you are doing something that they are not willing to do, which is expose yourself, which is putting yourself out there. And that is bravery to the max.

“And I think that today, seeing all the things about comparing ourselves online about people”

that are younger than ourselves, because a lot of people are like, oh my goodness, he's funny and he's already a millionaire, well, that's perfectly fine. KFC started when he was 75 or 70 something.

And then you see, Vera, wow, she decided her first like, we've seen this, there's no timeline

for success. So if you're patient, I was just telling to my team here and I was talking to them about this and I'm like, if you're not in a rush about posting, at first you're going to get likes. That's fine.

If you're not in a rush, you're going to get there. So there's no comparison about you being younger or being older, my parents are 60s. They're reinventing themselves. They're like, I want to do something different. There's success.

I started a young when I was 18 doing political things, with no experience at all. And now I'm about to turn 29 and be like, oh my gosh, you're a baby. I'm like, yes, but during this 10 years, I didn't compare myself to anyone else and just follow my path, follow my gut. And now I've got the chance to work with presidential campaigns, Fortune 500 CEOs, and it

was my path. You still want to do it, get the advice from people that are online, but don't compare to it. Just get it and go out, put yourself out there. Any successful person I've interviewed or talked to, this idea of knowing how to deal with

whatever on thinks of you is huge. It's one of the biggest things I was sharing yesterday last night, I was just mentioning 2000 to being emigried for her book launch here in London at the Hackney Empire and she's from East London. I'm from London.

I was a really, really special feeling, and I shared this quote that I've shared many times, but every time I say it, it has such an impact on me and everyone who hears it, it's from Charles Horton, Koolie, he said it in 1890. And the fact he said it in 1890 tells us everything, he said the challenge today is, I'm not what I think I am.

I'm not what you think I am. I am what I think you think I am. I love that. And it starts from three years. And yeah, he's saying that we live in a perception of a perception of ourselves.

So we think if everyone thinks, I'm smart, then I feel smart. But if everyone else thinks I'm weak, then I feel weak. You know what? I heard this and it's called the Marilyn Monroe effect. So she showed up herself how she wanted to be portrayed.

So I'm like, if you want to be Hollywood actors, if you want to do all the things and you don't have the things, Marilyn showed up as the person she wanted to be. And I love that because when is he believing yourself so much, you're going to make it. I go with that. You're gonna make it.

I didn't have the contact. I didn't have the money to do what I think and I just worked so hard and believe in myself so hard in the talents and the capabilities I had to, that is her showing and that's when people are calling you. So it's just about believing in yourself so much.

One of the top three traits you believe successful people have that people who don't make it don't have.

They always ask me, what's the difference with a 1%?

They keep going, even when it stops being exciting. A lot of people start, they get a domain, they get the username, they get excited, do with some can of a post and then nobody likes nobody buys, that idea is not good. The idea is not the problem is that you're not patient enough and then you have to be honest

“with yourself and I think the honesty is that you have to tell yourself that it's not”

going to be easy, that is going to require a lot of effort and once you're honest with that you have to be on a track that your vision has to be so strong but the path to getting there has to be flexible. So I feel like the 1% is always patient, it's always honest and the vision has to be so strong but the path to getting there has to be flexible.

Once you understand that, you're going to understand that your timing is not the timing that you want. I took 10 years to get where I am. So when people see like, oh, she's an overnight success, overnight success does exist after you work 10 years with nobody watching and nobody clapping for you, that's when it shows.

So be patient, be honest with yourself and be very stubborn with your vision but the path to get it flexible. So that's the 1% difference. Once it stops being exciting, be so repetitive about the boring stuff that you're going

“to make it because everyone thinks success is exciting to get here, to do this podcast that”

the logistics behind it, this is the fun part when we get to talk, but in any brand and in any business, any relationship, the boring stuff is what makes everything stick together. And a relationship, a lot of talking about relationships because I feel like it's been so romanticized about things that a relationship is a thing that you work on every single day.

And a business, you work on relationships with your team, with your employees, even with yourself. So it's a matter of just repeating the boring stuff over and over again and getting better at it and listening to other people. Also one more thing that we're talking about that is listening.

I feel like once you think you know it all, you know nothing, that's a kind of thing. Once you believe you are better than anyone else, you're done in my thing and my company

what we do every Monday, I'm the last one to speak because if you speak first as a boss

as a CEO, then everyone's going to agree with you because they might be afraid, not to give you the reason, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I don't want yes people around me. I want people to make me better and that happens with relationships, you want your part to make you better. Right now, I'm in a beautiful relationship that has make me a better entrepreneur, a better

woman, a better because they rise you up, it's not that you're comfortable, but they make you better. I'm beautiful friends who want me to succeed. So it's a matter of you know, I feel just listening, the power of listening, not knowing

“it all, that's how you learn until the last day of your life if you listen, you learn”

and you get to know people better about the people who love to talk more as well because

people talk too much, you know that they're the ones who usually, not always, but

the least and how the least you're trying to. You just remind me of Eric Schmidt, the former CEO of Google, he had a principle that he called, don't listen to the hippo in the room and hippo stands for highest paid persons opinion and he said the same thing, he said if I speak in a leadership meeting or the most successful wealthy person in the room speaks, everyone around them will just agree and so

it's better to allow everyone else. One thing that you mentioned that really stands out to me, you said what differentiates the winners from the people who don't make it is that they keep working when it's not exciting. And I think that's where the follow your passion movement went wrong because people have this belief that if I follow my passion or if I do my purpose, everything's going

to be easy, I'm going to wake up happy every day, I'm absolutely going to love everything I do, not realizing that actually if you follow your passion there's going to be lots of days where you're doing things you don't want to do, where things are not exciting,

able to work when things are uncomfortable is what differentiates the top 1% and so how do you keep going, how do you keep trying and experimenting when things feel slow and they're

not going your way, how do we stay patient to your first point?

So I like if in this example when you go to the gym the first time everything hurts and you see nothing but just internal pain and then if you keep going, you're staying in a little bit here and there of a muscle, you're seeing here and there a Titan, that's the same effect. Following your purpose and your passion is hard because you're not going the traditional way, right?

And we're not going the traditional way, it's going to hurt, it's going to make you question a lot of things about yourself, if you're capable, if it's worth it, why is not working, why am I doing wrong is a D about, it's not, but once you surpass

“that pain, that internal pain, you start seeing the results and it's quite success is”

quiet at first, it's not easy because you are not exposed, it's just you yourself in a room maybe with a laptop and not a team or anything and at first all entrepreneurs know, you are your own PA, your own personal assistant who's responding the emails, you are the marketing team, you are sales, you are everything and that is fine, that's how we all started, but once you believe in the process of that you're greeting something inside of

you as well during that change, because I feel like what success really is, if there is me, what is success, success is who you're becoming in the process, is the resilience you're building, it is the path to the top, you're going to be losing weight because to get there, you're going to lose friends, for sure you're going to lose friends because you're not the same person, you're going to not be able to speak about the same things

on a dinner table and that is fine, you're going to maybe lose family members who didn't believe in you and that is fine as well and you're going to lose a part of yourself that you might not notice because in that silence, I've not noticed changes, you're changing

and that is already success, so on the way to the top, I always say the top is not close,

people at the top will want to help you, I heard a friend of mine saying a lot of people aren't having me, and I'm like you don't need live, you don't need a lot of people,

“you should see one, if you have a one person who grabs you by the hand tells you I'm”

going to help you, I'm going to introduce you to someone, that might be enough, you don't need an army of people to succeed, you need first to believe in yourself and then just one person to introduce you, so the top is not close, the thing is that the top is cold, people are not expecting it to be that cold, because when you get to the top, it gets lonely sometimes, because since you lost a lot of things during the process of getting

there, it's a new view, and at the top there are fewer voices, so that means that you have more time to think, as a CEO, you have, it's you deciding, you don't get to run into other people lots of times, so that's when your mind has to be very clear on listening, on who you are, and being so sure that any decision that you make either a turn into good or bad, it's you, the top who got there who made all decisions to get there, and you're

going to be fine, so if you like the same thing, once you understand that there's going to be silence, that you're going to lose people, that you're going to grieve in all part

“of yourself, you're ready, and you're, the climb is slow when you lose people, but it's”

worth it.

Always say to people, you'll get to where you want in life, just not in the way you imagine

it. 100%. Because all of us have a visual of what the path looks like, and then reality next to it, which doesn't look like that at all, and then we start thinking, well, this can't be the right path, because it doesn't look like what I visioned, it doesn't look like, the idea

I had in my mind and reality saying, no, no, no, this is what it's going to look like, and we just keep debating, we keep fighting it. And then you don't take the step forward in reality, because it doesn't look like the one in your dream. In my case, I started so different from where I am now, so I graduated from high school

like I mentioned, and I wanted to be what it was, it was a blog run at that time, because it was like an actual blog, and I started posting, and that first it was like nothing, and it was kind of tough because all of my friends were talking about me, and oh, she thinks she's an influencer. It was, oh, she thinks she's a blogger, you know, but that's so cool when they underestimate

you. I love being underestimated, because you get to build quieter, you don't have pressure, you don't have to prove anything. Everything's going to fail anyway. Yeah, so we're not doing it.

It's a good place to be here. I love it. So, once I started posting this things later on today, they all are my friends, they all know, and they all want something.

That once I started getting invited to fashion week, I understood the power of technology and where it was going. So, I started calling all these brands that I were inviting me to fashion week, and I started doing their social media accounts. So, once I understood the power of social media, I went into my first presidential campaign.

I managed my first presidential campaign, then it led me to a second one, third, and I'm starting my fourth one. So, if you told me that I would end up in politics, and then that led to cybersecurity, me, development, and software, and cybersecurity, I would have never believed it, or me being

a political strategist, never would have thought in a second.

So, if you told me that by age 29, when I would have been divorced, I would have never believed it. And that is fine.

“I remember when I got divorced, it was something like, ooh, that she's so young, and she”

got divorced. And I always loved to talk about it because it's not a taboo thing. Like, I got the most amicable divorce ever. It was all good, but it's just things that happen. And live, it will just throw things at you that you're not prepared.

But the resilience comes to the hardest moments of your life. And in that moment, throughout the things that I've been through, and now I started into this path of social media of what I do, this is the fun things. I get messages from all around the world about people, me changing their lives, which I would have never envisioned it, right?

So, I always say to the people I coach and to be like, talk to you, don't do anyone else is taken, right? I've heard that phrase, you know, everyone's taken just to be you. And in my case, I'm young, but I've lived so much, even my Spotify account says that I'm 63 years old, and I totally believe it. I'm an old soul.

You mean when it does this, but if I write, just let you listen to it. Exactly. That's good. Yeah, that makes sense. Exactly.

That makes sense.

“It's just a matter of, like, to you, to whatever, trust, if you want to, trust in a certain”

way, you want to go a different path that is not the typical one to it. And don't criticize others. I'm just only important because that energy that you're portraying by criticizing or doing, it's not coming back to in a go way. I was talking to a friend of mine the other day, and she said, oh, I heard this friend

of ours had a baby, and she thinks she's an, a mom influenza, I thought of like, that's so cool. But the way she's set it, and it's those things that I hear all the time, she thinks she is. Oh, she thinks she's a singer.

She thinks she's that designer. She is a designer. She might not be at the top yet, but she's going to get there. She's not the top implant, but she's going to get there in her own timing. So the way that we portray words is so important because if someone has blue hair and you

are staring at her because she has blue hair, let her, it's just like a mild robins thing, right? That's like let them let her, if they want to do something different that you are not engaged when, let them be, you do, you focus on yourself so much that your energy, I've heard this over and over, successful people cannot criticize others because they don't have

that time for it. There's so focus on being better of, for example, I feel like, us sitting here, I'm happy about your success. I'm happy about you having a production company. I'm truly happy.

Like when I saw it, I called a page who's been so wonderful, I page of your listening to this. It was so good because I'm happy for it because I know what it takes to get to certain places.

When people read headlines and we put something out, there is not to brag, I always

say when people put a vacation there, it's not to brag. If people put something in their social media, sometimes it's not to brag, it's sometimes a way to say, you know, the times they said no to a lot of things to get there. So many times they have to cry themselves to sleep to finally purchase the car they've been saving for.

So a lot of times we read social media in the ways that we want to read, if it's with envy, we can twist and veen away. If you're jealous about something, let it be for good. Let it be for if he can do it, I can do it. But not in a way of like, oh, he hasn't.

Then it's not for me or I cannot have it. There's room for everyone. The world can give so much the doors are not closed to just to you be happy with you. And read the things differently. Yeah.

Happy for others. Truly, we are in a society that is so jealous, so confused because they don't have it. And I know there's tough times, but in the toughest times, it's when people can arise. They can become the person. They want to become.

I remember one time I had like 12 dogs to my name and I was looking at my bank account. And I couldn't have it. Where were you at that time?

It was when I just started and I needed to do like my first website for my, it was when

e-commerce was already booming.

“And I remember that you two were, so that's one of the things they were like, you're”

going to become a billionaire. If you do this product, an Amazon FBA was calling a thing or something like that, and I was like, oh, I'm going to get into e-commerce. So I saw all those e-tubers, they were like 12 years ago. And I got onto it.

I paid this guy to do my website. And he basically got my card. I was the e-bike. I gave him my card. And basically he took all the money, didn't bring to you one thing.

Like I trust in the guy, it failed, it was a lesson.

And I opened my bank account and I feel like we've all been there when you look at your bank account and you're like, oh my gosh, the overdraft fee and all of this stuff. Right? And there were two options. Either I stayed there and cried or I started to work.

That's how it got into tech. I learned how to code my own website because I didn't have money to pay someone to do my website. And I realized later on how I got into tech was by a moment, a failure, which I love to say failure does not exist.

It's just data. It's just giving you more information. And those moments where you're like, what am I going to do with my stuff? And a lot of things I feel like people right now and the world of struggling with financial situations, like ever before.

And in those moments, I want you to know that I feel like all successful people would been there. Like it's not easy to get to where you want to get in.

“On my way here, I remember that a lot of people think they see the car or they”

see the bag or the watch and they want that. And like it's fine, you can get there. But real success is not assets. Real success is who you become in the process and real success once you get there is who you shared with.

Yeah. Because once you get there, it's like what I want to share the news. Before I came here, I caught my partner. I'm like, I'm so excited. He was like, oh, you look so beautiful.

Congratulations. And like they're happy for me. I caught my friend and she's like, oh my gosh, I'm so excited for you. I brought you my team. They're so excited for me.

It's who you share it with.

And I always say in friendship, if there's a slight chance of envy or jealousy, the

friendship is gone because they are competing with you. And the second you're competing with you, it's broken.

“People who are around you have to be happy about your success because they know their”

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But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to hey, Jonas, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen, we don't care where you hear it. I'm so glad you brought up these more underlying things when it comes to success, especially

when you talk about not criticizing others, because I feel like as soon as we hear about

than us, everyone gets really, really critical, and we're being critical because we're

being competitive. We don't even agree with what we're saying. We're just saying it because, oh, it's uncomfortable to hear that someone's doing it better than me, that someone's getting it right compared to me.

“And I think what that does is it creates a culture of criticism in our mind.”

When now, I think about this all the time. My friends who are doing well on social media will never laugh at someone else on social media. They'll only send me the good stuff that other people are doing, they'll say, hey, did you see this update?

Did you see what this person just launched? Did you see what this person invested in? And all of my friends who are doing badly on social media will always send me a video of someone to laugh at them. To be like, oh, look, let's laugh at this, and it's fascinating to me how you get

lost in that world and you feel better about yourself. So what I found is if you're doing well, you feel better when other people are doing better because it shows you there's more opportunity. But when you're doing badly, you feel happier when other people are doing worse because that makes you feel like a bit of an ego boost.

And so I think it's such a good tell as to whether you're focused on yourself or whether

you're not because of their critical piece.

The other thing that you mentioned that really stood out to me is this idea of sharing it with people. Earlier you talked about the idea of being lonely at the top.

“And I think people are also lonely at the top because they don't know how to build the”

friendships that you're talking about because you can't control whether your friends envy us of you or not. You can't control that. How do you maintain good relationships on your way up so that you don't get to the top and then go, oh, I want to make friends now because once you're at the top, you don't

know why someone wants to be friends with you. So how do you maintain great friendships on the way up without knowing if someone's envy us of you or not? I think that you change your circle. It's going to happen because people you're doing business with usually end up being

your friends. And the old circle just stays where they are and not because it's wrong, but because their lives are different. And if you're doing something non-conventional, you're hanging out with non-conventional people with minds that don't see the impossible, right?

So I think you just change a circle. And that happens in life sometimes your good chat when silence, someone had a baby, someone got married, someone went abroad and the group goes silent. And then that's just life. The other day I was in a dinner and I heard them talk about badly about you.

And the response was like, that doesn't matter.

“What matters to me is why they feel comfortable doing in your presence if you're supposed”

to be my friend. So that's how you know. Say that again. That's good. If someone's talking about you and they come to you, a friend comes to you and says, I was

at a dinner and they were talking about the about you. The thing is not why they were talking about me badly. It's because why they were so comfortable talking about me in your presence if you're supposed to be my friend. Right?

So I love that because if it's a true friend, they're not going to dare to talk about the about you. So that's the thing. I think circles changes. I feel like in my life my circles have changed multiple times and that's just life.

Yeah. That's just the circle of life. And if you're married, sometimes your partner's friends are going to be your friends. If you go divorced, maybe it splits. If you go to college, it's your college friends for that time.

Then you depart from that city and then you have a new city and you become your friends. So I was talking about being an immigrant as well and following your dreams because I feel like in a way, everyone that pursues something usually leaves home. And when you get there, you're praying that the least you had is good enough. And if you're reading a yogurt flavor that you know the brand is good and then you make

your first out of friends and they are started to show you the city and then they become

your person in that city and then you're pursuing a dream. So it's just like I feel like it changes wherever you go, wherever you want. Sometimes it's who can take you there. Right? And you're hanging with them because you see that the possibilities.

So it's just a matter of life. I feel it's just like this. Yeah, I think that's fair. I feel really fortunate that I've got friends who have been friends with for probably about 20, 25 years is still in my life.

And you're spot on the reason that we can all still be friends is because I hopefully am not an arrogant douche and they're extremely non-indios. And I think those two things work really, really well together when exactly to your point earlier that I have great group of friends who aren't in this and not competitive for not, you know, trying to take me down.

And then on the other side, you absolutely right, your circle changes and you meet new people that understand your new life. And I think that's what it is. I think people think when your circle changes it makes you feel like, oh, because you're doing better, you want to be around people that are doing better.

It's actually not that. It's actually people understanding you at different stages of your life who have seen you in different phases who understand the pain you go through.

The best thing is we can all relate to each other when we go through the same things.

And my friends from back home, they've seen the full picture of me. And so I love that too because they know me deeper than anyone else on the planet because they've seen me from day one. Exactly. So that idea that your friends change in your circle changes is valuable at the same time

as I encourage people to be like, you don't have to leave everyone behind. And you can open up the door for other people. 100%. There was this beautiful story. I met one of the survivors of the Andy's crash and they were set up a group of friends

who were leaving for a rugby tournament and the plane crashes.

“And I think if someone's seen the show on the movie on Netflix is great, I might them”

to watch it.

But I was talking to one of the survivors and he said, well, something beautiful that

takes me out of bad days because I'm like, you're a group of friends who crashed into a lot of them died there and you stay there for 72 days stranded in Sto. And I'm like, how did you pull through? And he was like, all of us friends was important to see one good thing every day. And he said something beautiful.

I'm like, are you saying this because it sounds good? And he's like, no, because when you're in the snow and there's no sound and you just you play in white, you find beauty in things that you didn't spend before. He said, well, they were listening like at the rain or the snow flying, they were like, God is present and if God made all of this, that means he's here with us.

And I find a beautiful, I'm truly believer in God and I feel like once you leave everything to him, everything started becoming beautiful. And at that point, when he told me that in 72 days stranded in the snow, they saw one beautiful thing in 72 days in the cold when no food like it was bad. But then I asked him something.

I'm like, how did you know you're going to survive? And he said this because no one told us it was impossible. And that is something that you can take to you, you want to embark into a new chapter of life. And they tell you it's impossible.

The Marcus I traded by the way, the Marcus I traded was invented by someone with low creativity to be honest, but it's just you believing yourself because usually people put their own fears into our own ideas and our own dreams.

“So that's why we believe in them and we think we cannot make it.”

So when he said that, I truly believe in it so much because he said, what if we would have been stranded with a lot of people around it, the odds of everyone saying, oh, they're not going to make it. What are the conditions 72 days in the cold? They're not going to make it.

But it's been higher, right? So he said, nobody told us that it was impossible and seeing one good thing in your life. And I truly believe in that. I believe in that on the worst days that I have, I find one good thing, and once you find that one good thing, you push through, you wake up one more day, be like, one more day to

fix any problem that I have, one more day to try again, one more day to become the person I want to become one more day, one day at a time, that's why I don't believe in five years of your plans, and five year plans with the advance of technology, that doesn't exist. You know how I hire people? It's the funniest thing.

I love resumes, that's all good, love that. But I usually take them to a smoothie ride. I take them with me to a smoothie, and I love how they treat people. I see how they treat the waiter or the person at the cashier. I see the size of Ness on ordering, they're going to take to like forever or early, and

then while we're sitting in a casual environment, I ask questions about life, right? And when you get to know that person's going to be part of your team, being good, being a good person, kind, hard, honest, and has values, the resume will follow. But if you don't have that as a person, the rest doesn't matter. You can have Ivy League, people, and your team.

That doesn't mean anything, but there are kind people, I hired the other day. And it was impressive, I was doing this speech in Dubai, and then this guy had come from India, and he didn't know how to speak English. So he wrote on a piece of paper, something, and he showed it to me.

I once there was doing a meeting, and it was basically him saying that he wasn't tech,

and that he had saved the last amount of money and asked his mom to come to Dubai to meet me and had a chance to work at my company. And I thought that was so brave because he didn't have the language. He had spent the last cent to come and see me, and he was taking a chance.

“And that's what I love the three seas of life, challenges, choices, and change.”

Challenges we all have them, and I will throw at us every single day, but then you have the chance to make a choice. And once you have that, this guy, I hired him on the spot, he showed me when I thought it was so brave what he had done. So when I see people that have everything, and oh, and he had Tourette syndrome.

So when he started talking to me, he was like having a situation and showing with a piece

is not that you're fearless.

“Is that even though you have fear, you're going to go for it.”

And that moment, he was so brave, and I just gave him a hug and he was like, come Monday to my office. I'll be the hotel. Don't worry about it, I'll take care of it. His mom just passed away right now, and he was a big chance that he was in my team.

So it's just a matter of like, people, if you have air in your lungs, if you get the chance to wake up one more day, you can do it. You can totally do it. I believe in that so much.

I have such amazing, I didn't get here alone, like nobody gets there alone.

You have people that have helped you. When this guy told me that he has survived the situation, seen good thing, and his friendships. Oh, and one more thing he told me, he said that between all of them, they couldn't complain. And I thought it was so beautiful, because in our everyday, we complain so much about dumb things, that if you use that energy to complain, you're going another way, it's a wrong way

to go. During the snow, it was a no complaining, loving each other, seeing one good thing, and knowing that nobody told them that it was impossible to survive. So in your everyday, I feel like what he said is like, nobody can tell you you're not people doing something, see one beautiful thing every single day and do not complain.

That's a great story, that's a great experience. You said we can watch the, is it a movie or a dog? Yeah, it's a movie. It's called the Society of Snow. Oh, it's fantastic.

And it, the scenes are so true. Oh, my gosh, you see, how, how did they actually survive? But that's the thing. I feel like those, those types of situations when people go through that, it was just like the Hudson River crash.

And I heard this beautiful story. I've just said, one engine is out, the other one is out as well. This guy goes, I realize in that moment when the plane was crashing, that I haven't loved my wife enough, that I didn't have spent time with my friends. Now this thing's that you are waiting to do something, right?

“And that's why we, we have our planes crashing every single day, sometimes we feel like we're”

down and under, but that's the moment of wake-up call. That's the moment when you took a deep breath, I like myself when I'm feeling down, doing

a 10 second rule and it's just count to myself 10, 9, 8, even like rockets, they count

backwards because they're going to go up. So I feel myself like that. Even when I don't feel like I count myself 10, 9, 8, and once of one, I'm up and I'm doing. So it's little rules here and that I place myself and nobody taught me, I another thing

I like to call as a rule of nines. So people who like productivity tips, I put like a tech tech board and it's like nine squares and if you just put nine squares throughout your day or throughout your week and you cross them, the mind loves completion. So if you cross it out physically, I love tech, but I like some things physically, cross

it out and post it notes and just cross it out, your brain loves completion and you feel like you're advancing more than if you think that your brain can hold everything together, it can't, but once you feel a completion, it's fantastic. So certain things that I've learned is like when you're in school and they put a happy, a happy face sticker and you're like, yeah, you're happy when we're adults, we don't have

that. So we have to give that to ourselves and we have to give the grace of us trying. Nobody gave us the blueprint of life. I think that people made us believe that we have another day, they've had more time, time to love, time to forgive, more time to try that thing that we want to start.

“So life, life is moments and we think that we own those moments, but we don't, and that's”

why we have to make the most of it. And at the end of the day, when our time comes, I don't want to be able to say, I wish I had because when the time comes, I want to say, I tried, I loved, I didn't my way and the invisible footprint that you're leaving in someone's life. That's what matters. I heard the other day that when you die, men, especially, get their first set of roses or a bouquet

of flowers. And that was beautiful in a way, because why do we say all this things when people die? Why do we end of a set of flowers when we can do it when we're alive? They say that two times that people are gathered in your life, all the important people in your life are either at your wedding or at your funeral, right? And I thought that

is that in a way, because real life, real life is trying, real life is failing, I don't believe in failure, it's just data, but let's call it failure. I believe in the power that we have as humans to grab each other's hands and be better, right now in this time of our lives, we see more division than ever. And we see division because we don't understand, and when we don't understand something, it's easier to criticize,

it's easier to hate and now a day with the media, with the world and what's going on,

I believe in unity. I believe that we're separated by things that should never be separated.

this scan, we are all bones, we're at the same. And I believe that humans we can give each

“other the hand of love and the power of sincerity and the power of, you know what, I can”

help you. And if you need someone, I will call you and check in on your friends, there's so much loneliness as it's a new epidemic, it's a new pandemic, loneliness, and especially with a conomestration as well as like, people are not happy and able to have kids and out that I work in the political space as well. And when you ask, I'm going to have been babies, so because they don't want to, because maybe, you know, they can't afford people who are

lonely because they got divorced or they're in depression. And I do believe that now,

especially now, we can come together as humans, not as political parties, not as raised,

not as nations, but as humans. The other day I was sitting at a table where there were Christians, where there were Jews, where there were each one of literally Arabs, it was, it was beautiful. And I told them that you realize there's one of each religion. And we can all talk, because we can all listen to each other. And then it's beautiful now that I, I've been moving around in the other day, my Uber driver asked me about my religion.

He was Muslim. And I asked him about his, and as soon as I got off the Uber, he said, I'm in Shalam, and I hope your day is beautiful. And I thought it was beautiful. He was praying in his culture and his, and it's beautiful. And I told him, God bless you. So the moment that we understand each other as humans, it's not as political parties, not as anything

“else. The media can portray and we just see each other as human beings. I think that the”

moment that we're sitting in the table, it's a table that should be everywhere and around the world. It's because you listen, because you understand. So the moment you start listening to more people, you understand more and getting your own opinion.

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Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? We've created our own podcast. Oh, hey, Jonas, we invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. People to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts, but this one's extra special. So how do we, how do we actually

“come up with a name? Hey, Jonas, guys. I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call”

about what we should call it. And oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. Well, this is how you guys remember it going down. Yes, I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. People could call in and say, "Hey, Jonas, and then I broke down on my little note pad. Hey, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title." Oh, the

podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to hey, Jonas, on the I Heart Radio App, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. It's so interesting now because I feel like we're listening to more people than ever before, but we're not hearing them. Exactly. We're not actually hearing them because there's so

much noise. And today, we have access to more cultures, more countries, more opinions

it through your own lens. Because you feel that your opinion is so set in stone that it becomes your identity. Yeah, absolutely. It's because we'd rather be right than have peace. Exactly.

“Yeah. 100%. That's what you when you listen to someone truly is on what you just said,”

is that I feel like more and more today with with politics or all around the world, is that you feel that's your identity. And that's not your identity. And once you understand more about situations, and we have more people talking about free press, let's say, more information, different ways that you can get your information. You can understand about any political party cannot be your identity. Your identity is something completely

different. It's who you are on your everyday, who you're becoming for a better person. And the other day, I found this beautiful story that I told that there are three genies, and they decided where to hide happiness from humans. And the one genie goes, you know what? Let's hide it at the bottom of the ocean. And the other goes, you know what? No. They're going to build a submarine. They're going to find it. Yeah, you're right. The other one says,

let's put at the top of the mountain. He's going to learn and put equipment. They're going to

climb and find it. And the last genie says, why don't we hide it inside them? They were never

going to dare to find it there. And I thought it's so funny because it's true. Because we're seeking happiness, externally. And we've been taught that because since we're a little evids, not in applause, it's not valid. When people say, let's take a picture and post it because if not, it didn't happen. You know what? I love when I take a picture of them never going to post because it made me happy. It's the best. That's the best. It's the moment that you understand. It was for you

the other day. My partner took a picture of me. I'm like, oh my gosh, look horrible. He's like, no, to me, you look beautiful. No, and I want to remember this moment. And it's about moments. It's not about externally. So what this story about the genie is just remind me of it's true. Happiness is inside you. The purpose is inside you. With never left, you just let it rotten based on someone else's opinions and because they didn't clap for you. So the purpose and

never let the other day someone told me, I've thought of my purpose. I lost my purpose. And like,

no, no, your purpose is inside you. It never left you. We just let outside of penny and dictate your decisions. Yeah, it's when you've been disconnected from yourself. You stopped listening to yourself that you get distracted by other people's opinion is when you think you've lost your purpose. 100%. Carla, I wanted to switch into a bit of entrepreneurship, but I want to do this segment with you called this all that. And so I'm going to ask you this all that and you're going to tell

me which one and then why and we're going to go through quite a few. The first one is do you believe in discipline or motivation? Oh, discipline, 100%. Motivation fades. Motivation fades when everyone's I'm still motivated. That happens a lot. I was super motivated in January to start Jim went twice. Motivation died. I'm out, right? When people say I'm motivated to start a new diet, but I'm going to start a Monday. Why Monday? Why can you start Thursday? Because as humans,

we just decided that Monday was it or dinner, it was it. But now, oh, what is it? Oh, we're halfway through our week and it's almost June. So that means we're halfway through the year. And that means you know what? I'm going to start next year. We're too late. No, motivation fades, discipline. To simply makes you wake up the days you don't want to. discipline makes you want on a rainy day. Discipline means you're up until five a.m. you haven't slept and you haven't

“had any food and you're still gone because you have to finish that task. Discipline, 100%.”

All them pick athletes. You know, and you've probably talked to so many and it's discipline. Yeah. They don't want to go and swim on minus 2 degrees and train for the Olympics. It's and it's going to hurt. And that's the same thing when entrepreneurship. It's going to hurt. It's not the same physical pain as an athlete, but it's a different kind of pain when you're

the entrepreneur not going to pay yourself at first. A salary. You're going to pay your team first.

Or you're going to have noodles and and pasta for the next year because you can't afford a lot of things. It's a different kind of pain, but it's discipline. And if you stick to it, it's it's just like when people pose the first time they open an Instagram account. They post ones. It pulls twilight. It's not working. Like discipline. You're going to get there. You're going to learn my first video sucked. My first video's got like 50 likes. No, my first video's got

my mom. My dad likes and probably someone else account that I followed that day. I was a bot, right? But then it just grows when and you even learn from that. It's not in media. So discipline.

“Okay. Discipline over motivation. Ideas or execution. I feel like both because you have to have”

a strong idea of what you want to do and not change 10,000 times the idea because sometimes the idea is good, but you have to execute it and change sometimes a lot of things for that idea to work because sometimes we think we know the industry we're getting to, but we actually don't until we're there. And we have to do a lot of different things like the path to get there. Plus it's a visual and strong. So when people say that idea is bad. It's not bad. You just haven't tried

don't know which one's working and you think like, it's not working. No, just one thing at a time. I feel like the same time a lot of people have great ideas, but DJs don't stick to it for a long

“period. That's why I'm an execution of ideas person. I feel like I've seen the worst ideas”

become really successful because someone else can't really well on it. You seem like we're death, right? Yeah. Yeah. A lot of water making it totally waterbath. It's just water. Brilliant. Just how they do it. The market's that trade that we just talked about. It is not that trade. Totally. I mean, I was told podcasting was saturated seven years ago

when there were 700,000 podcasts. Today there's two and a half million podcasts. There you go.

So I fully agree with you. Last one of these intuition or data. So I feel like intuition is data. Talk to me about it. Interestion. What is the actual meaning of intuition? And for me, intuition is just all the things that you've lived, which is data, which is giving you a sense that we don't know how to explain. Did you know that when you're a baby, the first organ that is born is your stomach? So when you feel

intuition and say, I feel it. I feel it is because technically it's started there. So intuition for me is just data that you've lived in order for not to make a mistake or in order to make a good decision. So in my case, a lot of times when I started in my career, being a woman, young at 18, managed a political campaign on social media, when social media wasn't a thing, it was kind of like who is she? She's young. She doesn't have a degree.

She doesn't have the thing, right? But then, as I started moving, I've worked with soccer, which is fully male-dominated. Tech is a space that has now more and more women. But when I started, it was neat. Well, until now, I feel like I work with 100% men on my meetings, on everything.

“And it's just a matter of like getting into an industry where you have to believe in yourself so”

much that you're not drawn apart. So when people will give me excuses about, I'm too young or I'm this and that or that, there's no excuse anymore. The path and then information has now been opened to so much to so many people. I feel like before, it was set on a book. It was set on stage. Google came. If Google said it, it must have been right. Then Alexa came. If Alexa said it, beautiful. If Siri came, it must have been true. And now we have Chad GBT. If Chad GBT said,

then information has been out there all along. I started coding when there was no touch of GBT to help me to code. How to go and read, actually read and go to articles and blogs and stuff online to try to understand. So if you really want it now, it is. You can do it. Like anything other than to run over. So it's just in tuition for me is a mess because it's just back end by the data that you've lived. Because you do so much of this in your professional life.

You're guiding people in their president's campaigns. You're guiding Fortune 500 CEOs when it comes to their social media strategy, their digital strategy. If someone right now wants to

“start building a social media following, what are the first three things that they should do?”

First things go and search your competitors. You know what I love to do? I love to go to Google

and find not the five stars but the three stars. Because the three stars are given you a path of where it was almost good but not terrible and that's your gap. So go to Google, search your competitors, go to Instagram. And on Instagram, I would go even to your page when I started and I wanted to see what people liked. It's not going to be the same from you and me because I'm going to do something totally different. So people are like, oh, she's copying or you're copying. Nobody's copying

them because one water is already there. It's been created, right? But go to your competitors. The first time I started my first account on ecommerce, I would go to Google. I would see the three star reviews. And then I would go to all the people I commented, I would go and find them on social media or go to their social media page and literally invite them to go see my page. So when people are like, oh, it's not working. Nobody's following me. I'm like, why have you done the work?

Hmm. It's not easy. First, especially if you're a soul entrepreneur. So first, definitely go

and stalk. Step one, yeah. Your algorithm is showing you about your same thing over and over again. So you're saturated. That's the way to go. So you're not intentionally, but intentionally, you're subconscious tries to copy that. And you turn out to be something that you're not because you're copying that, right? And the biggest idea that I've gotten for other people's brands or or strategies I've done have come. If I'm looking into soap, I would go to nail polish

because that would get ideas from there and then we are applied here. So trying to make your algorithm show you something else that's not in your industry because you're saturated with that. That you think that's the path to go. And if that's not the path to go, it's done. Force your algorithm to show you different things. And third, be patient. Because social media today, there's no saturation. I started eight months ago and built a huge platform.

It's still funny because it's like the Mandela effect. Have people talk to me and say,

fact that they saw me so many times that they think they've seen me there. But this is the thing, my paths, it can be different from you. And if you're patient and if you don't have a rush, and if you truly believe in yourself and your idea, you're going to get there. So it's just

“a lot of patience. Anything in life is patience. Nothing happens in a blink of an eye.”

It's like just getting your body toned. Like if you want to go on a YouTube input, how to get apps in seven days. And there are a lot of those videos. You're not going to get them. Right? The muscle bells and the muscle of resilience and business. It's hard. It's tough. But you build a muscle. You build resilience. You build character. And for me, character is something so important because today, we hear a lot of people talking about success.

But it was truly a success. It's who you are as a person who you're leaving with and the values that you're leaving people with. And in your business, if you're a business owner,

always ABCs. The ABCs is always becoming communicating. And I love that because if you are

communicating with your team, if you're communicating and love, nothing can go wrong. I feel like one of the most important things as humans is the lack of communication. Because when there's lack of communication, bathings happen everywhere. It doesn't matter what happens. It just, it just goes bad. I had one time one of my team had a back communication with a business that we were doing. And instead of putting a zero, they added another zero.

It's in the wire. So I was like, "Oh, that's beautiful." Okay. What we're going to do about it. It was a lack of communication between teams. So it's just a matter of communicating and love, the same thing. Once communication ends, love ends. That's something I like to talk about is becoming an entrepreneur who you're with romantically. It's very important. Interesting. Tell me about that. Who you have next to you can definitely define you. Because I feel a lot of very talented people

that can't go past that because of the person who have next to it. Because they make them feel stuck.

“If you are a woman get into business, I felt like you have to have someone that is not afraid of”

you being more than them, maybe. Because their certain stigma is in the slide that the man was the one that provided men and now we see more and more entrepreneurs, more women who are super

powerful by themselves. Right now, I have the most beautiful relationship, right? And I see the difference

from others because he is happy by my success. He's happy to, you know, help me in the ways that he can to make me succeed, right? I have close friends who have partners who don't make it easy for them. I feel like when you're an entrepreneur, you're marrying the vision. You're not marrying the person. You're marrying late nights. You're marrying an idea that the other person cannot see but has to trust you. And when you understand that, everything changes. Because when you're marrying

an entrepreneur, you're marrying uncertainty, you're marrying late nights. You're marrying those things that having an eye to five might not give you because that's more stability, right? But an entrepreneur who's marrying an entrepreneur is just marrying an idea that might change

“ten times and you have to be good with it. It might mean that they're going to miss birthdays.”

Yeah. It might mean that they're in their phone all the time. It might mean that, you know, you are on a dinner and you have to leave to take the call and you have to be okay with that. Because you're marrying that person or you're dating that person. Yeah. So I feel like who you are within this lifetime, okay? The maker break you. And it's just not about being comfortable with the idea because sometimes I'm comfortable with them. So I'm staying.

Life is not meant to be comfortable. Life has been to be uncomfortable. I've never want to be

comfortable. And the other day, they asked me in an interview and they said, "But why do you want to more?" I don't want more because it comes to monetary because I want more money. It's because I know that I'm not finished being the woman I want to become. And when you're becoming, that means you're uncomfortable. And for example, you're right now entering a new space. It's uncomfortable at times because it's more work. And it's more things. And you have a little while.

That's why I take it on. That's why I take it on. But I can never envision myself being so comfortable that I'm on a Tuesday. And I'm like, okay, no, no. I want more because life is meant to be lived to the fullest. I mean to be used so much that, you know, I wake up every day. I came here. And it was so excited about this because, you know, what? Once you start living, I feel like in our industry, and you get to enjoy all this cool places and dinners and events.

I remember the first time I got invited to the American Music Awards after party and it was it changed workers after party. And I did not know anyone of the industry. And my friend Jason Richmond, he was the time of the Vice President of Paramount Pictures. And I met him there. And we were sitting at this fire place. And he goes like, "Oh, it's so cold." And he goes, "I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah." And he's like, "What do you do?" And I'm like, "Oh, I'm an influencer. I'm a blogger."

He's like, "Oh, that's so cool. Can you come to my office to Paramount?" I'm interested in what we can do together. You know? Like, I was uncomfortable at that point because they were all celebrities. I remember, like, one direction was there. Like, haily-signful. Like, it was so many people that I did not feel comfortable. I'm like, "What can I talk to this

today is just, you're getting to a new level that you're not familiar with. Is like getting to an airport where you already know the gate. You already know where you're going to have lunch or you know all the things and you go to the airport and you feel ease. But when you're landing to an you airport, you do not know. You kind of like, "Oh, wait, wait, where is the gate?" That's kind of what imposter syndrome. That's where analogy I like that feels like it's just another place. So at that

time, I remember I was sitting down at this after party and I started talking to this guy, who I did not know who he was. So I go like, "Oh, and what do you do?" And he was like, "I sing." Like, "That's so cool." And then my friend goes like, "Oh, you're talking to post Malone." I'm like, "Ooh, I did not know how he looks like." And I was just really cool things when I met Daddy Yankee as well. And I'm like, "Okay, where's the guy?" He's like,

"That's the guy." I'm like, "Oh, that's the guy." You know? So it's just moments that you're

“uncomfortable and you have to be yourself and you have to be open up the possibilities of what”

like can bring to you. And at this point, I remember in my career, I got to mean so amazing

and taught in people. And a lot of times, you just see there are humans when you see social media. And you see a number is just a number. I'm a human. You're a human. Everyone's room. We're just normal people. We all have problems. The only thing that we have different is that we dare to believe in ourselves so much that people believed in us and gave us a fall. I wouldn't be here sitting in if people weren't following me. You weren't peace in and giving me the energy people

that didn't believe in you. So it's just a matter of like, don't believe in the imposter syndrome. Don't believe it. It's not real. It's just believe in the thing that I just said, somewhere you've not been yet, which I love the word yet. You're not successful yet. You are not there yet. It's just yet. And I have been doing this movement. I've been going around we brought it to so many countries. Oh, it's 122 countries we brought it to. And it's the

I still build movement. And I'm launching my book next year. So I'm going to be definitely

“launching it with you. But is the ISIL build movement? Is that we're all builders?”

In either way or not, we are building something. And I, I love to do this every time I go somewhere and to a different country. I love to do this part where I put on the screen and I'm like, when fear takes over me. And it tells you I'm not enough. What do you say? And people go around and say, I still build. When, and I still doing all these things and people go like I still build. And you just start believing, I'm a builder. You're a builder. We're all builders. We're building

different lives. Someone is becoming a mother full-time that's beautiful. You're building a home. You're building an idea from scratch that doesn't exist. You're a builder. You're building a live alongside someone that you're going to spend the rest of your life. You're a builder. You're building an idea that might exist and you want to tweak it a little bit. That's awesome. You're a builder. And in this stage of life, we just see that we're, like I said, in the same boat in different

destinations, we'll have problems. We'll have crisis in life. And I understood the power of time with this because my dad, I'm an only child. My parents have been, they are my life. They are my

greatest support. But you know what? It's something that I understood that they always believed in me.

I always saw them as builders because they built their businesses from scratch. I always knew what a real entrepreneur ship entrepreneur looks like because when I was young, I would go to the office on a Saturday because they were building, right? And my grandma always saw me something is you can do it. And I remember this, you can do it because there was like a little thing in my bed and she would hold my hand and she would let go and she said, you can cross, you can do it.

“And this is the same thing. The most beautiful thing that you can do in life is believing”

yourself so much of what you're building. It doesn't matter what it is, but it's just believing on what you're building. And in this moment of, you can do it. Sometimes I do what is called the power pose. And the power pose, I heard this article about this neurosurgeon who stood up and he was going to do operate in this little girl's branch. He was three years old. And as a neurosurgeon, he said that if he had had a tiny mistake, the girl would basically be brain dead. So he said that

it was like a 16, 17 hour surgery. And he was going for a number of mirror before it and he did the

power pose, right? And after I heard that, I always do the power pose. So what is the power pose?

You stand in front of mirror. You put your arms like a Superman and you lock yourself. You see yourself. And you see who you really are. You're like, you know what? Let's do this. Bring it. They tell me I can't watch me. You think I can't do it? Watch me. And I love that. Because once you understand the power that is inside you, nothing can break you. And seeing yourself in the mirror is something that always asks, how many times you talk to yourself? Like, no, I talked to myself.

And I'm like, no, you are thinking you're having thoughts. And there was a Harvard study that said that 78% of thoughts are negative on a daily basis. So when I heard that, I'm like, you're not talking to yourself. You are listening to your thoughts and mute. But what if I told you that you

You're so powerful. You're so capable. You're breathing. You get one more chance. And you put

yourself in powerfuls. And you see yourself. You see the power inside you. No one that you admire has something different than you. They just believe in yourself so much. That once you stand in front of the mirror and you do the talk to yourself. And you do this, ooh, that becomes so beautiful. Oh, I love it. I mean, I can definitely say that before I go on stage, there's really a mirror there because I'm backstage, but whenever I go on before stage, if I'm in power pose, it is

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Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers and guess what, we have some big news. What's the news, this news? We created our own podcast. Oh, hey Jonas, we invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to our people to do podcast. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts, right there. But this one's extra special. So how do we, how do we actually come up with a name,

“hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.”

And oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. Well, this is how you guys remember going down. Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. We could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I broke down on my little note pad, hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title. Oh, I'll talk about it. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to hey

Jonas on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen, we don't care where you hear it. This is how I think about a relationship. You're in one place, your partner's in another place, and you're driving to the same party tonight. And your partner leaves a bit earlier than you, you leave a bit later. But you call them up and say, hey, I'm running a bit late. Can you wait for me outside? And your partner says, yeah, sure, sure, sure, I'll wait

“for you outside. That's cool. What time you're going to get there? You're like, I think I'm going to”

get there 20 minutes after you get there. They go great. Fine, come at 20 minutes after. They're waiting there. You're on the way. You get stuck in a bit of traffic. You go, hey, look, I'm still 10 minutes behind. I'll be there in 30 minutes. Why don't you go inside? Your partner says, I thought you wanted me to wait. You go, no, no, it's okay. It's okay. You just go inside. You know, I'm going to be a bit later. You get there 30 minutes later. You walk in. The relationship wasn't

getting there at the same time. It wasn't that you were moving at the same pace. It's that you were in constant conversation and communication and connection about where you were. And I think that's the communication that's lost. And I love that you're posting on your social media, those things that I did once similar, but it was about traffic and like one is having a baby, one just divorce, one is having situations in life. And I feel like that's social media. We'll just see a tiny window.

We don't see the full picture. And that's when we communicated each other and we talked to your partner. You talked to your friends. You say, oh, we're not so behind. Oh, it's not that perfect.

what I have, not with where I live, not with anything at all because my life is not perfect at all.

“I understood the power of time and live with my dad, God cancer. And he got diagnosed and”

there was a moment in life where he's he's wonderful and I thank God, but he got into an exam and he got sexist from it. And he was in intensive care for a long time. And I understood the power of time is the things that I wanted to do. And I'm like, I want to do everything now. And it's the buildings when you understand all this things, right? As an only child, I feel like when they ask you, how is it to be an only child? Was it tough when you were a kid? No. So when you are

an adult and you realize that everything is up to you. So it's just a matter of like how you can communicate. Everything is about communication. Communicate about the beautiful things you can tell person, why wait? If you are in love with someone, say it. Even if you're afraid, have you heard that the great sound of me lying? No. It's beautiful. It's like Eric's on it just passed away. It has this beautiful line where he says, say it. If you're in love with someone, say it,

even if it hurts in your bones, even if you're afraid, even if it's not the the result that you want to hear, say it. And I feel like that's life. Go for it. They're to say it in a meeting.

I heard this amazing sort of the guy that invented vitamin water. And he went to Coca-Cola and

basically said, I have the next eight product and he literally sold the idea of having like water with flavors. And he got pay off like 4 billion, I think about it not wrong. So it's just

“about it like going communicate. Dare to do it. The worst thing that can happen is I know. And that's”

fine. You know? But it's just a matter of believing, communicate yourself. Say that you love. Say what you don't like as well. Because in the best communications, you're saying that uncomfortable things. Yeah. People don't want to hear uncomfortable things. But it's what makes you grow in a company. And people have to come and say the things that you've been doing wrong. Nobody wants to hear that. It's going to make you grow. Or it's going to make you bankrupt. Maybe you don't hear that, right?

So it's just a matter of communication. Live is all about communicating in every aspect of it.

Well said, Carl, I want to thank you first of all for traveling 30 hours to be here. This is the

dedication. I wanted to point it out because you've been talking about dedication. You've been talking about discipline. You've been talking about putting in the work. Talk about overnight success. For you to travel 30 hours to be here. To be on the show. I think that is the longest anyone has ever traveled to be on the show. So I want to honor you for that. I want to thank you for that. Be so grateful for that. And we end every episode of on purpose with a final five. These questions

have to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum. So Carl Santoro, these are your final five. Brought to you by State Farm, question number one, what is the best advice you've ever had or received? So I think there's just a quote I really like. And it's a winner is just a loser who tried one more time. So I don't stop at failure. I love that. Great advice. Question number two, what is the worst advice you've ever had or received? Follow your purpose. Because well the end of today, a lot of

people just say like, "Fall your purpose." But purpose comes with a lot of dedication. So I feel like that's incomplete advice. So I would just say, "Fall your purpose." But no, that is not going to be easy. And that's the thing. Just purpose sometimes is not enough. Absolutely. Question number three, when do you know that a relationship is over? I think a relationship is over when the

“admiration does. You have to admire your partner for the good and the worst. You know, I would just”

talk into my friend who is in the city with me. But it's a matter of like when you get married and they ask you in good or in bad and sick doesn't help, that's the precinct like the cute version. But what if I told you and I heard those the other day? It's like, what if they amputate three of your of your members? What do you still love her? It's like, "Oh, it makes you think." What if we bankrupt it and we have to start over, I just heard Ian some holiday talking

about Nicky Reed and that they were eight figures in doubt and how they pull through that. That's not easy financial. That is not easy, but it's just a matter of admiration. If you admire your partner and that dies, I think it's over. Question number four, how do you define a

good friend? I feel like a good friend is always happy for your success. I have a good chat with two

of my friends and before I got here, one's in Shanghai, one's in Buenos Aires and they all woke up at the same time to see me get ready and my makeup and for me they were happy for my success. So if your friend is happy for you, you have a good friend because they're not jealous of you and they're not afraid of your success. Fifth and final question, we asked this to every guest who's ever been on the show. If you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow,

what would it be? Respect. If you respect each other, that's it. You don't need anything else. Respect means that you have heard one another's opinion. Respect means that you respect their time. I respect so much people's time because it means that you value their time as well as yours. Respect means that you can respect your partner because you respect them. Maybe they don't have a good day and that doesn't mean that you know you've lost it all. Respect means that in your team,

thing and I think the world would be better off with is respect each other. Carl Santura, thank you

“so much. Everyone who's been listening and watching wherever you are, whether you're at work, at home,”

please tag me and Carl on TikTok and Instagram with your best moments, the parts that you're going to try and apply, the parts that you're going to try and live by, the parts that you're sharing

with a friend, Carl, thank you so much. Thank you so much. It's been a wonderful, truly grateful

and it's one of what I'm finding me on wishing you all the best for your glory. God bless you. Success, make come your way and continue to help so many people around the world. Thank you so much. It's been a pleasure and for everyone's listen, just God bless you, keep believing in yourself.

You are enough and I'll see you next time. Thank you so much. Thank you everyone for watching.

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