Julie Yang Silver Meets World

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(upbeat music) (upbeat music) So I recently met an old friend, it started dating this guy. And it was one of those experiences that I,

you don't have, as you get older, where you just like immediately bond with somebody, you're like, oh, we're gonna be friends. We're gonna just, and so he and I just started. He's a cinematographer and a director

and has worked in the industry forever. Started as a camera operator. Anyway, it's like just having that like, we had two days at a convention and we were just having so much fun talking.

And at one point he goes, you know, I worked with, I worked with Will for Dell. And I was like, what? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's telling me this story.

He worked on GoFish with you. He was a camera operator on GoFish to show that you did after. Okay, he told me the funniest story. He's like, you know? He's like, there was, there was a young woman who was,

I think she was a stand-in or maybe a guest star. And he's like, and there's Will. He's like, the handsomeest, coolest guy with the teen bead hair and everything. And he's asking me for advice.

How do I talk to this girl? (laughing) And he was like, it was so adorable. I was like, no, that sounds like Will. (laughing)

“That's what he's like, I just remember being like,”

dude, you're asking me, I can't help you. You gotta just talk to her, but apparently we're trying to talk to some girl I'd said. And he was like, just baffled, but he loved it. He was like, yeah, Will and I had a great time.

It was so fun to have you. What's his name? Charles, I actually don't know his last name. But yeah, but he was a nice guy. And like, that's good.

This is all we're gonna blow past the fact that you're out there making new friends. I mean, are you surprised? What do you mean? But it's just, it still hurts occasionally.

I mean, when you realize that we're not enough for you. No, well, no, but you should know that because he has the opportunity to hang out with us. And we are on the road. You'd think, well, who else would you hang out with?

Guess what?

The answer is almost anyone else's answer for writer.

Anyone else? Be like, hey, no. You guys, I should be. And then a lot of time with you. No, you don't.

You don't. No, we're here to tell you, no, you don't. Yeah, I don't come out with me. I'm always like after after a show, I'll be like, okay, let's go get a drink.

Let's go get some food. And you guys are like, I'm going to my room. I'm ordering in and I'm going to sleep. Well, I'm 30. Hold on, also, that's not true.

We do that when you're like, I'm going out with my friend. You don't even invite us to go along with you. So we go, okay, then I guess will and I will go to bed.

It's separate separately.

That is separately. Yeah, oh, that's-- Yeah, I agree. Anyway, I thought it was funny to make a new friend. That is cute.

I have a story that went back to 2000 Wilfredel that I was like, that's exactly my friend, Wil. Like, you know him well. I can't talk to girls. And luckily now I don't have to do.

Let's do that. Just have to talk to Susan. Which is, which is great. Do you find it easy to talk to Susan? And most of the time, a lot of time, a lot of time.

“He doesn't call me and be like, how do I talk to her?”

How do I talk to her? How do I tell her, talk to her? Come on, I want her to go on a date with me. I'm still convinced.

I just like to let her know that I try to keep her down

as much as possible, because if she finds out that she can do better than me, which she can, I'm screwed. She's out. So I just try to make her feel like, you know,

this is the best you can do knowing full well. She could throw a stone and hit somebody better than me. So yeah, hopefully she did marry you though. So that's a good sign. That's true.

That's true. Yeah, that's usually a good sign that it can work. That's a little workout. So that's good.

[LAUGHS] Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel. I'm right or strong.

“And I just don't know how to talk to her.”

So if I, I mean, do I just go, I'm will. [MUSIC PLAYING] Hi. This is Joe Interestine, host of the Spirit.org podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts,

and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver. The Irish Traveler said, when I was 16, you're going to have a terrible time with men. After storyteller and unapologetic aquarium visionary,

Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives. And I find a lot of people with strong placements and Aquarius are misunderstood. A son and Venus in Aquarius, in her seventh house.

Spark, her unconventional approach to partnership. He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms on different houses in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it. If you're navigating your own transformation

or just want a chart-side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity, and real life, this episode is a must-listen. Listen to the Spirit.org podcast, starting on February 24th, on the iHeart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast. In 2023, a story gripped the UK of looking horror and disbelief. The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history.

Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict, a villain, a nurse named Lucy Leppi. Lucy Leppi has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the full story? A moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses.

I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast doubt, the case of Lucy Leppi, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it. To ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Leppi was.

No voicing of any skepticism are doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level at the British establishment of this is wrong. Listen to doubt, the case of Lucy Leppi, on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose Podcast. I'm joined by Luke Combs, award-winning country music artist, and one of the most authentic voices in music today. Luke opens up about success, self-doubt, mental health,

and what it really takes to stay true to who you are when your life changes overnight. I hate fame. I hate the words celebrity hate those words that you make me uncomfortable.

“But I think when you get to a certain point,”

the fame or the success or the influence, it just accentuates and exacerbates the inherent person that you are.

The guy that says he's always going to be there

and that will do anything to be there is the only guy that's not there. I'm in Australia when Beau is born. The whole identity is that no matter what, I'm going to prioritize my wife and my children. Over my job, I dread the conversation with my son.

What do you think you'd say? Listen to On Purpose, with Jay Shetty, on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckard, and in 2022,

I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first bachelor to ever have his final rows rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would.

But what happened to Clayton after the show? Made even bigger headlines. It began as a one night stand and ended in a courtroom, with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral.

The dating contract. Agreed to date me, but I'm also suing you. We're such one.

I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped.

This season, an epic battle of he said she said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies. I'm done nothing to get burned in by the f*ck Brassler. Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

This past month, a TikTok video from creator Nicole Story Dent went viral, where she was walking through her local department store, and noticed something very familiar. The mannequins displayed on the floor were wearing outfits that looked almost exactly like clothing seen on Boy Meets World.

Sean, Corey, Mr. Fini, even Minkess. She matched the looks with screenshots from the show, and it was mind blowing.

Now is then, then is now.

We are all connected. That's right, 30 years later, time is a flat circle, and now it appears our classic 90s wardrobe is again in style, and being marketed to young kids and adults prepping for spring. How does that happen? How do short-sleeve shirts on top of long-sleeve shirts

and sweater vests with military style fuzzy collar jackets

“and wool professor blazers find themselves available in 2026 decades later?”

That's the work of a good customer. A few seasons back, we talked to the great Sarah Moscoets, who is a driving force and getting us out of those XXL shirts, and into clothes that actually fit. But from season three through seven,

there was another name we remembered fondly. And that is this week's guest. Young enough to be a part of our crew, she came from the world of Martin Lawrence, working on his stylistically forward sitcom and movies,

and then joined us and stayed through the finale. And since those days, her resume is chock full of projects cooler than boy meets world. We've got vampire diaries, breaking bad, oceans 11, American Horror Story,

and recently, a show that earned her an Emmy nomination. Star Wars, the Mandalorian. How she was unable to get us cast as stormtroopers, we will never know. And so now we are excited to welcome a crew favorite

to Pawdmy's world. The reason our costumes are now years later, hip with the kids. It's Julie Yang Silver. Julie are you there?

Yes, hold on. Hi! Oh my god, so good to see you. Oh my god! Thank you so much for being here.

You're not changed at single days. You're the 9th week of the same. Everybody looks the same with me. Oh my god, it's so beautiful. Thank you, guys.

Hi, we're so good now. It's been like 25 years.

“Yeah, I don't think I've seen you since the show ended, right?”

Like, no, no. So 26 years, 99 really mean the show went off in 2000, but oh my god. I feel like we are so happy to see you. And I want you to know, like 95% of our memories of you

involve the idea that you were very, very cool. So will you please set the record straight? Were you very cool? I was very cool. I got so cool.

Yeah, I thought you guys were amazing.

And I mean, there's a whole story behind it. I mean, I look back now and I'm like, holy crap. I was 26, which is so weird because it felt like I was so much older. You know, and you guys really weren't, I mean, I wasn't that much older than you. I mean, that's what you will.

No, you were 26 when you started or when you finished? No, I think I was, I was 26 when I started. Because I think yeah, you started in like 96, yeah. Wow, you, I mean, I was not that much older. No, so I was 16 then and we would have been like, what, 2020, 2020, yeah, wow, oh my god.

So funny, I, there was one of the first things I said when we were talking about having you on and, and Jensen was asking about, you know, things that we remember. And I said, more than any other crew member, it felt like you were just our age. Yeah, 100%.

“I mean, Julie, you must have been the youngest crew member then, right?”

I was. I don't know if you guys recall that I went and got my U.S. citizenship.

We were taping and I went and got sworn in and then I came back to the show. We were just started and I was like, yeah, I'm legit and I had like my little thing. They put me on camera and I was like, this is so weird. That's right. So it would have been a Thursday night because we taped on Thursday.

That's right, you would have been a Thursday night. But I just remember, it was the best time with you guys. Yeah, it really was so much fun. Another thing I have to talk to you about because again, I've been so excited to have you on. And we've talked so much on our podcast, so much about Will and I, smoking.

I think I'm now at the ripe old age of 44.

I think I'm old enough to admit to my mother, the very first cigarette I ever had was when I stole

from Julie. Corrupting the youth. She had a pack of smokes like in her bag and I was like, oh, was it marble or reds? No, there were reds. There were marble lights? Yeah, so I'm going out with Will and if you like outside,

“you'll be like, all right, that's what you're doing.”

And you were away from your bag. And I think you kind of knew I was stealing cigarettes from you and you were just like, I'm not going to pay any attention to this. But actually the bag opened on the pack. My first cigarette I ever had was one, I stole out of your bag and then smoked

to loan like a weirdo, who has this first cigarette like, but when they steal and then smokes a loan, like a total weirdo, but I did just, I have, I have thought of you many a times over the years. When you wake up in the morning coughing, right? I'm off of the thing. It was so weird because I saw you had changed your last name and so I sent you, you know, an

“instant message, I think it was like two or three years ago and then when this whole thing came”

up, I saw you responded, you're like, oh my god, I never saw this.

So funny on Instagram, I don't remember, okay, well, I just wrote to you on Facebook. Yeah, mine was on Facebook. Yeah, yeah, because when we, when we talked about wanting to have you on, I said, let me see if I can find her on Facebook and then I found you on Facebook and saw your message and was like, hey, just seeing this, which was the truth.

Daniel's got a history of maybe not seeing messages so much on Facebook. We are so happy to have you here. I have to know, I want to jump into how what is your costuming origin story? How did you get the job on Boy Meets World?

Was Boy Meets World your first job?

How did you start at such a young age? Okay, so I did go to a fashion school for like a year. I couldn't afford it and I ended up just, I was going to merchandise marketing and I was at FIDM. Couldn't afford my second year, so then I was like, okay, well, I'm just going to keep working in the industry, cut to a couple of years later.

I was dating the sky who was a stage manager and the company I worked for went under.

“And so he was like, hey, do me a favor, can you bring me this thing that I left in my house?”

And I was like, yeah, sure, no problem. So I go and I drop it off and he introduced, they was back in the, oh my gosh, the power-ranger error, the entertainment. So it was a show called tattoo teenage alien fighters from Beverly Hills. Awesome show, awesome show, awesome show, I ended up meeting the designer there and Eddie Castro who was phenomenal and him and I just kind of hit it on.

And he was super great and he was like, oh, will you come help me on something and I was like, yeah, sure. And you know, and he's like, I'll pay you a hundred dollars. And at that time, I wasn't working. I was actually helping out in my parents' restaurant. And so I was like, sure, come to find out. It was like, 16 hours. Oh, for a hundred dollars. For a hundred bucks, but I had the best time. And it was like a commercial. So there was like food, galore, catering.

I was like sucked in by the food. And I thought, oh, that's like fun.

Got started with him and within about a year, I got into the union. And I was working for an

actor that I decided not to go back to work with him. And my friend Eddie calls me up. And he was like, hey, they're looking for, you know, like a supervisor slash designer on this kid's show called Boy Meets World. I'm like, you've got to be like, I haven't done this for very long. I've like supervised. I've been doing this for maybe two years. And he was like, no,

“I think you should go do it. So we did a whole board and everything. And I was so nervous.”

Oh, wow. So you had to, you had to kind of audition. Oh, yeah. Ideas. Oh, that's so cool. Oh, yeah.

I had to kind of, you know, and so I came in and met with Michael Jacobs. Yeah.

And I was completely nervous. And I think there's no way, you know, I mean, I remember at that time, I even had, I had cut my hair short because I looked so young and nobody was taking me seriously. And so I went in and Michael was like, yeah, okay. And he had, you know, very strong ideas about oh, what he wanted to be nice to be in. Yeah. And everything. So I was like, okay, it's, you know, I get to go shop, you know, I think I can do this. And lo and behold, you know, I did. And he hired me.

I was like, why in the world did he hire me? Like, I had hardly anything on my resume. Let alone even design. You know, I don't even, I don't have that creative creative like, because most designers are like kind of crazy. But the irony is that you're trying to look older by cutting your hair. But the reality, but you being younger was probably an asset.

“It was. Yeah. It was. And I think like, I think like a year into it, I remember asking Michael. I was like,”

why did you hire me? It was like, well, I figured, you know, I didn't like what you did. I just fire you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's about right. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Before we get to into our time on boy meets world, I got very into the look of the Beverly Hills alien fighters when I was doing some research on you. And I will and writer, I would like for you to take a look at some of these. And Julie, could you please tell us the inside story on some of these costumes? Let's go to

the picture. Oh, my gosh. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yes. These are the tattoo teenagers from Beverly Hills. Oh, my god. Oh, yes. Okay. So I was helping. I actually didn't design that. That was from Eddie was designing it. Okay. And magical. Yeah. That was like back in the days of like the power ranges of anything that was like fitted that showed off everything. I mean, it was kind of so for our dear listeners who maybe don't see this right away, it is latex. Yes.

Skin tab, skin type latex with arm muscles like glistening, but the the like body oil glow is also all over the latex. So it's just like, and then there's masks. Are they also latex masks? They were kind of latex masks, but that stuff gets really like hot off the heat and hot. So they had to make it. So there was more like something that they can just pull over and we put the latex over that to help fit it. Oh, what's this? Yeah. I mean, that was days. It was like you suffered.

You sucked it up and you just did it. Right. Now, are any of these looks on your vision board for boy. No, no, no, no, no, no. Because I can see. Sure. And I can see. I can I can I can. Mad Lauren's could have pulled off some latex. He could have been a great. I wouldn't hit her quarry, you know, but yeah, I can see. So honey, do you remember what you pitched? Do you remember what your your board looked like? Oh my gosh, it was very he wanted. I mean, it was back in the whole, you know, TGIA. Right. So it was all about

wholesome, um, very down to earth. I mean, you guys were like the next like happy days. Right. Yeah, really normal, you know, Midwest, like everybody wanted to be you. Hmm. So that was what the idea of Disney was doing. Yeah. Right. Right. So you get boy meets world, Michael hires you because

“worst case scenario he's going to fire you. Yeah. That's what I kept thinking for like I want to say”

the first three months. I was like, he's going to fire me, right? I'm not going to hold this job.

Yeah, I'm not the rest of the time. Yeah. Oh my gosh, that's unbelievable. When did you then

He called me up and he was like, hey, I'm doing this little showtime thing. Come do it with me.

And I was like, oh, okay. And so I went and we were like out of the desert and stuff like that. So then that finished. And then he was like, oh, I'm doing this other, you know, show and that show was

“the one that turned union. And I got in the union, but it was literally just Eddie me and I think I”

hired, I hired my friend who ended up firing. It was like back in the days like you did everything. I mean, I think at one point, I even we had a pool scene and I the wind was blowing and the actress was on a raft and I actually got in the water with a straw to hold her in place because I was

a smallest one underneath. Yeah, it was my gosh. It was a fun, it was a fun show. I think I even

have a little cameo in it. Oh, no, it was that. It was, it was really funny. I had my headset on and they were like, you're going to be one of the go-go dancers at the club. So they harness me up high and I'm on my walkie and I'm like telling people, like, no, no, no, no, get his outfit off,

“get his hat off. Oh, there's like a quick shot. I haven't seen it. I think I decided to blur that”

away. I was like 24 years old. We blur, we blur a lot of stuff too, Julie. We blur a lot of stuff. Sure. Don't worry about it. So you did all of that before you joined Boy Meets World. Yes. And then

from there, I went to work on his TV show and then I did nothing to lose with him and Tim Robbins,

who I love. Tim was fabulous. Oh, great. I think one of the kind of underrated films of the 90s. Well, I'm not joking, I'm not doing this film. Oh, nothing to lose is so great. So Martin Lawrence, he plays a carjacker who, Tim Robbins comes home and he finds he sees his wife Kelly Preston having an affair and he just walks out of the house and he drives and he gets carjacked by Martin

“Lawrence and he looks at him and he just goes, man, did you pick the wrong guy on the wrong day”

and just takes off with the carjacker in the car. And it's the adventure that they then have together and it is just so it's a, a odacurc. It's a, yeah, a no, not not Bob Steve Steve. Yeah, Julie, I hate to do this. I am on the road touring with the dancing with the stars tour. So I'm going to hop off because I have the bus is waiting for me downstairs to head to the venue. The guys are going to finish the interview with you. We need to catch up even if we can't see

each other face to face for a while. We need to catch up. I'd love to talk to you over the phone. So I'm so mad that I have to miss the rest of this interview. She has to go above your and I are going to do a much interview. This is Joe Winterstein, host of the Spiritotter podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver. The Irish travel said when I was 16, you're going to have

a terrible time with men. After storyteller and unapologetic aquarium visionary, Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives. And I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius, like our misunderstood, a son and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house, spark her unconventional approach to partnership. He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms on different houses in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it. If you're

navigating your own transformation or just want a chart-side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity, and real life, this episode is a must listen. Listen to the Spiritotter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast. In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief, a nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history.

Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict, a villain, a nurse named Lucy Leppi. Lucy Leppi has been found guilty, but what if we didn't get the whole story?

doubt, the case of Lucy Leppi, we follow the evidence in here from the people that lived it, to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Leppi was. No voicing of any skepticism are doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level of the British establishment of this is wrong. Listen to doubt the case of Lucy Leppi on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the on-purpose podcast.

I'm joined by Luke Combs, award-winning country music artist, and one of the most authentic voices in music today. Luke opens up about success, self-doubt, mental health, and what it really takes to stay true to who you are when your life changes overnight. I hate fame. I hate the words

“celebrity hate those words that you make me uncomfortable. But if I think when you get to a certain”

point, the fame or the success or the influence, it just accentuates and exacerbates the inherent

person that you are. The guy that says he's always going to be there and that will do anything to be there

is the only guy that's not there. I'm in Australia when Beau is born. The whole identity is that no matter what, I'm going to prioritize my wife and my children over my job. I dread the conversation with my son. What do you think you two? Listen to on-purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckard, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first

bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button

“and rewind it all, I would. But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines?”

It began as a one night stand and ended in a courtroom with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. I agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. This season, an epic battle of he said she said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies. Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeart Radio app,

Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I want to keep talking about Martin because, at the time, this show was like a cultural phenomenon of the Martin Lawrence show. And one of the reasons I think was because of the look of the show. Even the opening title sequence, there's kind of pastel looks. And there was a vibe to Martin.

“And how much of that did you contribute to when it came to the look of the characters?”

Honestly, I personally did not. But my job was just to take care of him. I worked with him on a thin line between Love A Hate. That's the show that ended up going union. I mean, the day we turned union, I think the gangs, we were shooting in a very bad area. And there was a truth called between, I think, the crypts in the blood, or us to be able to film there. And then we had a bunch of delays and health issues that Martin

went through. And they, the crypts in blood got really kind of pissed. And basically said,

they gave us, like, I think, like a timeframe. And the day that we striked to turn union are the neighbors all came out. And they were like, you guys need to get out before sundown, because they're going to start taking pot shots at you. I mean, literally the producers came by. I'm we're like grabbing the stuff. And the producers like yelling at me get in your car and leave. And I was like, but there's still some clothes. I got to

get the dressing, the set dressing. And there's like getting your car and leave now. And yeah, it was, we didn't realize that because we had this huge cast, like, body brown and, you know, obviously, Martin. And it was a fabulous show. But we had several delays. And they did not want us there. They did not want us in that neighborhood and they wanted us out.

So then after that, that's when I went to go work on Martin. And I basically just took care of

him. I made sure that, you know, everything that he needed. I don't know about you guys,

I mean, obviously, it's a collaborated effort. But you guys do have quite a bit of influence.

Well, it's funny because I don't think we thought we did back on Boy and Beast World. Like, I feel like we, like, will and I definitely did not have any taste or opinions. So was that a good

“thing for you or was, did you do, like, do you, do you remember like dressing us and just telling us”

what to wear or what was your mission? I remember dressing you guys and telling you guys what to wear. I also remember at different parts. I was like, is there something different? Like, how do do you feel about this character? And we all would just be like, eh? I thought it's for a misledger.

You know, that's pretty much it. And then, for you, it was more of like, oh, another t-shirt.

Okay, with another thing, it's like, right. You know, we're going through the little more eclectic trying to make it a little more, you know, cool and, yeah, and Will was just like sweaters. And regular butt-nown shirts. And, you know, so it was, we could not go too far out. I mean, we were really dictated a lot by that wholesome, yeah. Right. Right. So was it creatively satisfying at

“all or was it just sort of like a fun job, you know, in terms of being able to the sat in the dynamics?”

It was a fun job. There were times that, um, do you guys remember what was that episode that we did with like World War II? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like that was a lot of fun. Yeah. Right. We did have a couple kind of out when you were there a couple out of the box ones. We did the black and white one, like the glass of Blanca one. Yeah. And we did the 50, were you there for the 50s one? Or did you came after the 50s one? I came after the 50s one. And you, you did the World War II. So you

did the 40s and then yeah. Okay. It was we did. And, and especially for my character, there was a lot of times where they were put me in some pretty weird, like we just watched the honeymoon episode where I'm a coconut at one point. And so that was that must have been an interesting, especially by season six and seven to get a script and it's like, oh, will's a tree. Will's a couch. Will's, it was kind of like, if they were going to make anybody

anything, it was going to be well. Right. Right. Yeah. Right. So, I know. And it's also a very, you know, within like what that five years, four years, it, it was hard to keep going. I mean, you guys were growing up. Right. You know, started to actually really find your own identity and what you liked and, you know, and, but we still had to keep your character the same. But you guys had all grown out of that. Right. Right. Right. So, do you remember watching us go through awful adolescence and awkward

faces? And I mean, because it's so funny, because in my mind, I thought of you as somewhat of a contemporary. Yeah, but I'm listening to it. So, I mean, here I was like 17, talking to you like, do you, do you remember, what do you remember about us personally, like having to listen to our love life problems or what was it like? No. I remember well when you were dating Jennifer, and we went through that, oh, gosh. And I remember when Matthew came in and you guys went to that singing,

yeah, the singing that's dancing in front of the audience. Yeah. Uh-huh. And then, you know, and I remember for a writer, like when Trena came along, she was so much older and having that kind of dynamic and it was just like, wow, he's, you know, and you did it beautifully. Right.

“Um, I think the most that I remember was more for Danielle. Yeah. Because she was, you know,”

and I related more to her just because she was a female and a young teenager growing up and society and, oh my gosh, there were so many, um, discussions, uh, heated discussions about her wardrobe or, yes. Yeah. And that Karen, the producer Karen, uh, yeah, she, yeah, she was an huge Danielle advocate and her and she would back me out and we would go against Michael and he

would just be like, well, no, I don't like, as I, you're never going to open your mouth and ever say

something like that again. We will take care of it. Right. We will, it's like, it, you know, there's this whole like image. Right. And how people look and on camera, it does add weight, you know, when you're of short stature, it definitely things change. And so it, that part, we had a tiptoe. Well, it's interesting that you mentioned that because one of the things Danielle

amazing people around the world instead of us. Um, we don't hold the grudge. Uh, if, um, you know,

obviously, I put on a bunch of weight towards the end. Danielle put on a little bit of weight towards the end, but of course it was all about how she put on so much weight. And one of the things she talked about was during the wedding episodes specifically, she remembers that she was allowed to quote unquote help pick the dress, but none of them were allowed to be sleeveless. Yeah. And she thinks that one of the reasons that that was is because certain powers that be thought

that she looked too heavy to show her arms bear. Um, is that in fact, what happened? Yes. It is. So if you were just constantly having conversations about I was yes, it was constant

“conversation. And the thing was Danielle was not heavy. No, no, that's what we're looking at”

going on with that. That's what I was trying to explain to them. I was like, she is still a size two. Like, I don't know what you guys are talking about, but because of her stature and they were so used to seeing because she bloomed overnight. I think by the time when I started, she had grown outwards. Um, and because she wasn't 11 anymore. Right. What happens? Yeah. Right. Exactly. But that was the thing, though, was that, you know, Danielle's not very tall. No. So if you are busier

and you're not very tall, you're going to look larger. Right. And, but she wasn't like, you guys saw her every single day. She was not large at all. Well, that's the thing we talked about. She put on probably. She said, like, maybe eight pounds, nine pounds. I put on 30. Well,

nobody really cared. That's what I mean. It's nobody. That was the thing that was so amazing.

Yeah. That's the double standard. Right. That's what I'm just talking about. My way gain and changing my clothes are they were just like, they don't care. They don't care at all. Yeah. No. No. Let me go be funny. He'll put on a bigger shirt. We're fine. Exactly. But Danielle, there were conversation after conversation about, wow. I remember specifically, oh, and then, like, trying to

“hide train as pregnancy. But do you guys remember that episode? Which one? The prom? Oh, yeah. Sure.”

Okay. So Trina is like seven months pregnant. So, you know, so we're trying to hide that. And and it was the same thing for Danielle, where she needed sleeves. And I was like, no. That's going to look ridiculous for prom. Like, absolutely ridiculous. So we ended up, you know, we did a shawl. And I remember Karen and I, we really went up to back for that one. And we, I think

Karen and I mostly Karen too was just like, you will never ever, we don't want to ever hear anybody

say anything to Danielle about this. Right. Okay. I was going to ask, did she have any, was she aware of any discussions? I think she knew, but we really tried to like hide that from her in terms of, because, you know, she's a teenager. Like, that's going to get in her head. And that looks things that Karen and I were both saying was that she is a young woman. And that could do so much psychological damage. And this is so not worth it. Right. You know, so we were treating very,

very lightly. And yeah, there were some. And I'm sure, you know, Danielle knew and, you know, because I remember there were times when she would, you know, we would do sweaters. And she would be like, I look so huge in this. And I was like, honey, that is an extra small. Yeah, right. Yeah. You know, and it was just being on camera, like back then, like we videotaped it. So it really did add more and with the certain camera angles and stuff, you know, it just made her look more

compact. Yeah. But when you saw her in person, she was not even remotely close. No. Yeah. We just watched the Honeymoon episode. And one of the things we talked about was the fact that she comes out in a negligee. She's kind of naked under the under the covers. She's doing all this. And I said, I was like, how for five episodes from now, we do an episode about how you've put on so much weight. I mean, again, at that point, I was used to it. So, and I was a guy. And I was funny. So it didn't matter.

But as America's sweetheart, it was one of those things where we looked at her and I was like, how, how could they look at what you look like there and be like, we got to do an episode

“about how you've put on weight. Like, written, what? How are you seeing the same thing?”

But that's also, I will say to your credit. That's also where being closer to our age than almost anybody else on the set that we were, I mean, that you, there were pays and people on the set like that that were closer to our age. But you don't really spend a lot of time with them. And it's not as intimate a relationship as somebody who's dressing you and we're doing fittings and you're doing it. And your room at the time became like our therapy place.

I remember you mentioned love. And when I broke up with love, I remember you wouldn't, you would like to help me through that. I mean, it was, that was one of those things where we just, we hung out. We all hung out. And so it was when we were putting on weight breaking up with girlfriend's doing all that stuff. That's, we came to you. That was like the room where we hung out. That you guys are one of the main reasons why I loved doing what I did in ino honesty. Like,

I loved that family feel and everything. But I also try to really make it so like, I never,

you know, I didn't go out and party with you guys or because I knew that you guys would be

“going out afterwards and I'd be like, oh, no, I think that's super crossing the line. And then”

but I was still just like, okay, you know, whatever you guys need it, I would be there. I mean, writer, you were talking about, you know, going through that transition and everything and watching you guys grow up, like watching you guys like throw your clothes on top of the closet when you're done. Trying to like jump up there to get your, you know, by the end, I think we finally like begged you, like, please writer, just, and you would just like, okay, you would fold them and then put

them on the thing. Then, then we finally got him to just at least throw it on the floor. It was,

yeah, it became like this game all of a sudden and poor Cheryl who was taking care of you guys was just like, that's right. I need, I need a step stool because they keep throwing it on top. Thank you for throwing on top of their closet. Oh, my god. No, I remember specifically being like, I had to hang up my clothes. Like, I remember being taught like, and so by the time I was like 17, 18, I was like, okay, I'm gonna hang up, but I also very specifically remember it being like a game

where Ben would throw his shirts off. Oh, yeah. To row them as far as he could. Yeah. Oh, my god. Oh, just to piss you guys off, I feel like, well, and Cheryl loved Ben. So she would have done anything and I would be like, do you want me to talk to him and you're like, no, no, no, he's just being a boy. Yeah. Oh, no. We, there's one other word we've heard quite a bit

“on this podcast and I think it's the same word writer's gonna say. Yep. So let's say at the same time,”

writer 1, 2, 3, 10 key. Does this ring this ring about for Morgan? Oh, yeah. So we just watched

the episode and it's where Lindsey Ridgeway who was playing Morgan goes on their first date at 12 or 13.

Right. And there's a whole scene where her dad Alan Rusty freaks out about the fact that she's wearing a tanky knee. And we had Lindsey on the podcast and this was like one of her core memories from doing the show. Do you remember this at all? I remember bits and pieces. I just remember what was the big deal. Right. Right. Right. It was it was made to be such a big deal. And Lindsey plays younger than she really is. Right. So she was just like, what, you know, and my whole thing

was like, any of that stuff was just to make sure you guys are comfortable in it. And if you're not comfortable in it, I will go up to that. Right. Right. And I don't recall, I mean, refresh my memory. What did Lindsey say about it? She just was somewhat traumatized by having to wear something so scantily clad, you know, because it's like a weird tank top belly showing thing that I don't know if we invented the tanky knee or if the you know, but it was it was in the script. So then yeah,

you know, they're there. She just remembers there being a lot of discussion about, you know, how scantily clad she was going to look and how much to show how much to be. Yeah, because, you know, the story point is that she's dressed too sexy for her dad. But of course, she's still actually very much a little girl. And yeah, so she just remembers having to wear this, you know,

“very feeling very special. I think we had to shorten the top because most tanky knees, they're”

like one piece, that one piece that the top goes all the way down to your waist. And then you have the bottoms. Right. I think we had to shorten them. I mean, it was, I would say it was probably hardest for Lindsey just because they were in front of the camera. Right. You know, you're showing off everything. She's a teenager too. Right. You know, she's growing up. So I don't know, maybe I just blocked it all out of my mind. From a, like, things that I had to put you guys through. Mm, right.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, so after you leave boy meets world and then you downgrade to a movie called Oceans 11 with

“arguably the ugliest cast in the history of Hollywood. So tell us about that. You worked on Oceans 11?”

I did. That's a crazy scene to be a part. Oh my, tell us about it. It was, it was so much fun.

I have never, like that crew was like clockwork. Like we were doing seven hour days.

Call. No, seriously, because he knew exactly how he wanted to shoot it and operated the camera. It was just the entire cast. Seriously, I think they only each got like one perk. So to do that, to do that movie. What does that mean? That means like, you know,

They usually have like their own hair make up. Right. They're their, you know, personal assistants, trailers, all that's kind of a, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they each only pick one thing.

“And I think was it. George had his hair stylist. Well, I think was this thing really”

Waldo because we were always like, where's Waldo? I think Matt, Matt had brought his own

chef. Brad, Brad had his own makeup artist who also did his hair. I think he, she did his hair. But they were all like I was, I was thinking like, oh my gosh, we're going to be around a bunch of like divas, yeah, sure. Sure. Yeah. Oh, that's great. So much fun. Don Cheetle. I love him to death. You know, but you can also end like Brad Pitt. Oh my gosh. He was hilarious. He was really funny and a total gentleman. Like he's the type of guy that they're calling people on to set. So, you know,

you're running with your step. He will stop. Hold the door open for you and make sure you go through.

Oh, that's really, really nice to hear. Totally nice, like really down to earth. We

“partyed in Vegas a lot. I remember we would come through at like, I think it was like five”

o'clock in the morning and I'd be walking down the Belageau. Like we, you know, we'd be heading back to where we were staying at. And I'd see Brad at a table and like the entire place was empty except for that. Yeah. And I was walking by and Brad would be like, hey, Julia, I feel like, oh, hey, walk over and we chat a little bit and then I'd leave and I watch everybody's face like who is that? Who is that? I mean, it got to the point that we, we felt like wanting to

take care of them because they were like real people. Sure. But the fan base was very bizarre. Oh, I'm sure. But what is it like, I mean, you're going from, I forget sitcom to film, which I want to get into because I know what a difference that is. But you're going from working with Disney, which is known to maybe squeeze a quarter till the Eagle screams to oceans 11, where you're dressing literally some of the best-looking people in the history of the world. What kind of

freedom did you have with that budget when it comes to the wardrobe compared to what you had on Boy Me's World? Well, for that, I want to say because I worked really close with the supervisor

“and she was the one who kind of was like, you need to really start supervising it. I was like,”

oh, no, I love being on set. I like working with the actually like, no, you need to start supervising. And so I would stay there with her at night doing receipts and most of the paperwork stuff. Right. So I got to see like the budget wise. It is insane. I couldn't even imagine everything on that show because Jeffrey Kerlan was a designer and he knew his down to the T like, I remember like running down the aisles like during the Vegas scenes and he literally would be like,

I'm going to change that person's necklace. That person needs earrings. Yeah, there are a few designers that do that and he is one of them. But for him, it's the entire look. He made every single thing. Like every outfit, every shirt, Andy Garcia, everything, tie, his shirt, his suit. Like everything was made down to his shoes. We made him shoes. It's so timelessly cool. Like when you I love that movie and I still watch it because I teach now and I use it in screenwriting class. And

it still, everybody still looks so stylish. Like it's not dated at all. You know, it has this like, everyone is just so effortlessly styled and cool. It's amazing. It's an amazing, it's an amazing everyone on that crew. I mean, so to Berg, he's, if you ever get a chance to work with him, it is amazing to watch. He knows exactly. He doesn't waste any time. He knows exactly what he wants,

how he wants to shot and it's just done. Like we never waited on the actors. They all just came.

They all did their stuff. Like nobody was joking around. I mean, we were doing 7, 8 hour day. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Now, did you, what was, how big a shift is it going from for camera sitcom to a film of that size? I mean, was this, it's two different worlds, right? Two, yeah, completely different worlds. Is there one you prefer? It's still weird, though, because I felt like after the four camera, it seemed such a piece of cake compared to everything

You had time to prep it. You had time to make it, you know, and you had time to dress it. Whereas

“on video, or when we're doing four camera, it was very quick turnaround. I mean, we were shopping,”

putting stuff on you within a couple of days, and then you guys were on camera. And then if I have to get approved, we wouldn't even know who the guest cast was until like the day before. Yeah, we would get like maybe the day before or something like that. It's kind of like how they poundered the episodes. Episodics are the hardest things I've ever done. Wow. Because you're prepping a show, wrapping a show, and shooting a show all within 10 days. Right. And at the same

time. And so this is when you're working on, you went on to Nip Talk, vampire diaries, and then some breaking bad, breaking bad. I don't work on so many different things. It's like some of the coolest shows in the history. Yeah. I have been very, very fortunate that people that I have been introduced to and have remained really good friends when I started on Nip Talk. So Lou Irick

and who is the costume designer. She, she's just amazing. She does all of Ryan Murphy's staff,

all the American Forers, and I adored her. And she had this work ethic, but not only that though, she was so incredibly creative. Like the things that she would come up with, like she knew. But Ryan Murphy, the creator, he was like that. Like he is the type of man that would call Lou up and say, so I was walking down on fourth, you know, fifth avenue and front of, oh gosh, what showroom was it. And he's like, and I saw this dress. And I knew Kimber needed to have this dress. So of course,

we contacted the showroom and everything and found out. And it was like, like $5,000 dress. There was nothing written in a script, but he was like, no, she is going to wear that at some point. So, you know, it's down to the tea. That man is so incredibly creative and artistic. Like he knew, like down to the lamp shade. Exactly how he wants it. And Lou has a huge, like pedigree behind or two in terms of the shows that she's been on. And, you know, and it's the details. Like she's

very into like the little details. Like just the belt could completely change an outfit. And she's one of, I've been fortunate enough, all the, a lot of the costume designers I've worked with. She was so incredibly hardworking. Like I couldn't leave without her leaving. So I would just stay there. And I would just keep doing paperwork. And we'd be there for like 15 hours.

“And she would, you need to go home. I was like, I can't leave until you leave.”

Right. But we both loved what we did. And that was like one of the things that I miss so much that I don't, you know, get to do as much. But I love those 15 hour days. I love those 16 hours. Okay. So you've got breaking bad. You've got vampire diers. You've got show after show after show that are just the coolest things in the world. But I want to get into my world, the world of the nerd. So what is it like working on the Mandalorian? Please tell me Mandalorian stories.

I worked with Shana on Angel. Okay. And she had also done Firefly, which was like great show. No, no, no, no. Great show. Yeah. And then I had just met her and she brought me on to Angel. And when I left Angel to go do a nip tag. And we kept in touch and everything I helped her out here

“and there. And when she called me, I was like, are you sure? I don't, I'm not, I'm not, I think I was like”

one of the only person that I hadn't seen to Star Wars. What? What? No, no, I have. I have. I have, especially when I win. When you were offered a job on a Star Wars TV show, the Star Wars TV show, you had not seen a single Star Wars. I, no, I had seen, I think, like, Empire Stripes back. You started with the second one. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I just remember, like, I was, my, my cousins were going to go watch it. And my other cousin and I were like, no, we're going to stay home

and play golf. So they all went. And, you know, I've seen it like bits and pieces on TV and

I've never watched it for the beginning to end. And I think like, five years ago, I did.

it's so, I mean, there's appliances and there's helmets and guns, which is got to be a whole different

“thing. I mean, is that just a whole different world when you get into kind of the fantasy sci-fi genre?”

Absolutely, everything. I mean, I've been in situations where, you know, everything's made in house, you know, or, or everything's like, sent out and they're all made, you know, clothing-wise and

everything. I've never been in a situation where we actually had our entire costume department,

like, with specialty people making armor and, yeah, and then you had like, you know, a specialized person who does all the aging and dying down to the tea, then you had your painters and just even people on set, just the rotating. Right. I, I think at one point, it was, I think just in that warehouse alone, we probably had about 40, just people in there that I'm constantly just going, okay, what is going on? You know, and being thrown into that world where they had already done

the first Mandalorian and they had, you know, done bubble fat. They had, you know, so they were

the crew was amazing. They, and they were owners. They, and everything. Those are my people.

“And so you must get to the point, because like, I imagine, you know, when you're, when you're”

working on something like, you know, uh, uh, oceans 11, you're, you're dealing with the real world. Right. So you, so you know, like, what, you're when you're, culturally, you're styling towards. Right. Yeah. With something like, like, Mandalorian, you have to just get to a point where you know different, like, tribes that have been completely made up. And like, are, do you have to just like, do you study for that? Or do you just absorb it by, by being around it? Like, oh, I know that

people from this planet dressed like this, right? People from this is what a Jala looks like. Yeah, exactly. You just figure that like, or is there like a, is there a book, a Bible that you have to study? How does it work? It's, it's actually, I, I, I talked to, um, a lot of the people who are working there, more so than anything else. And like, Alyssa, who was the ACD, she's a wealth of not like everybody who worked there, excluding myself were huge, like, star, like, new to whole trilogy,

ever, everything. So, so when I stepped into Mandalorian, they basically shoot pieces of every episode all at the same time. Okay. And because it kind of flashes back and forth and all that. So by the time, I came in to help with that. Um, they had already done a lot of establishing things. So I was just kind of getting caught up. And, but I was really there to help prep and to help start a soak up. So that's where my training really came in, because of all the storm troopers. I mean, I was like

watching the cartoons. Yeah. Which are fun. Julie. Julie. Yeah. They're animated series. Artunes. Sorry. Well, you, right. I had to say and watch the animated series. And as I was breaking down the script, things that I didn't understand, I would go back and I would, I would ask questions. So there's like this whole down to, like, where the storm troopers came from, the colors, the. Right. It's the storm troopers were the clones. Yeah.

“Did you, like, didn't you love the animated series, though? Where's the animated series?”

It's phenomenally good. The, the, it's amazing. And it helped explain so much. It does. Yeah.

When you're just thrown in it, you're just like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. Yeah. Yeah. And also, like, everybody knew all the, the verbiage was the one that I was having a really hard time figuring out there for the lickies and ones with the, you know, the ears and then all the different animations and how we were going to do it. And it was so overwhelming. I mean, it got to the point where I was dreaming it and dreaming like awesome. What each clone from each era and how they evolved.

Right. The code. Do you have a favorite? Do you have a favorite, like style of, uh, Star Wars world, like planet, tribe, person team? I don't know. What are the different things? No. I mean, I mean, there are all different races. And they each have beauty in them. I mean, like, my favorite outfits in Alonaceita, I love those red witches. Yeah. Cool. You know, and also it's just, there's like this whole history behind, like when you see one

that actually goes back to like, yeah. I know, a three other series. Right. So I'm a poster.

Indeed. And in a lot of the fan base, I mean, they're hardcore. Yeah. That's it. If you mess up one night's sister or ventrist or anybody, people are going to be like, well, that's wrong. Yeah.

“That's it. What do you think it? What did you just do? Yeah. I mean, that's, but that's what I,”

I mean, you can really do this with anything. I mean, at the end of the day, that you could say the same thing for, you know, Jane Austen. For the world of Jane Austen. It's like every language is its own kind of thing. The costumes is their own thing. The, the, every mannerism, it's its own thing. It's a micro world, which is what Star Wars is. So it's the beauty. Now, what do we have to do to get you to dress us like stormtroopers and put us in something?

Do you want to wear clothes? Not throw them on top? Not throw them on top? Not throw them on top? Not throw them on top? That's the same one. They're going through his whole Star Wars costume. It's stormtroopers. Maybe it's a real cool dress. We could just make it look crazy. Was we actually had some of the stormtroopers, the, the, from the original that we're made in London. All right. Oh, yeah, we got that. They were, they were beautifully, like, they looked beautiful,

but they were cracks. Oh, I'm sure. It, back then, they, I mean, to make it look amazing,

they weren't, they weren't functionable. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's like,

“well, I remember, we were just going to come and tell me a story about how, for Darth Vader,”

the suit is so clunky that they'd only shoot him from the knees up because there was a guy lying down in the ground holding one foot and another guy lying down in the ground holding the other foot and they'd rock him into his position because because the costumes are so, they weren't functional at all at the time. They are not functional at all. So we had actually repurposed for the clones. Right. We had repurposed, you know, some of them in the bits of pieces, and then we realized, oh my gosh, you can't because

there's so much action. So then you have the stunt guys and every time they got hit, it go, there were so many, it even, you know, like, on Mandalorian, like, all of all their jet packs and their helmets to make it functioning, you know, they couldn't be made. There was one that was for on camera and then there's one for out of functioning. And I remember on Mandal, they had this one scene where they wanted, oh gosh, I forgot her name because everything is kind of a blur right now,

but they wanted her to be able to throw her helmet and they called me, my set people called me, and I was like, there is no way in hell with that helmet. I have one picture and I have one that looks half that's for stunts. So they can do that, but she cannot take off this other one and just throw it because it will crack. It's not, it's not Emily. It's not Emily Swallow from the armor. The one who played the armor. Yeah, oh, I can't think of the name. I'm horrible. I'm still the same

person. Nothing has changed. I'm horrible with names. Hopefully you're quit smoking. Hopefully you quit smoking. I've been like, I know you guys buy face and everything, but then I start blanking it's all menopause. I blame it on menopause. Oh man. Well, we've had so much fun talking today. I'm sorry that Danielle had to bail, but you know, I guess my big question for you would be looking

back on your amazing career, which is still going. And you don't have to say us because we're on

right now. What's the project that sticks out to you most as you're like that? That right there

“is the one I want to be remembered for. I don't think there's any project that I would honestly”

say like I would like to be remembered for. For me, every project was special in its own way, but I would say it would be a tie between boy meets world and niptack. I'm true in boy meets world. Right. I really did. I kind of came into just being more confident, but and just being okay because even during boy meets world. It was a weird situation. I technically wasn't, I didn't have a costume design title. My title was supervisor, so I managed all the

paperwork, but yet I dictated it in terms of like shopping and deciding what were you guys wore,

I mean, my hands were pretty tied. For me, it was more about paperwork, but you guys were like

the first group that I really got to create a family with. Yeah. And I only have the best memories.

Oh, especially the finale. Oh, we, I mean, there's like so many. The bear, didn't we, we have that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. We can. Yeah, I'll do not remember by the way.

“Did you remember the bear? I don't remember that we have a bear on the covered in honey and running”

from a bear and she had no memory of it whatsoever. I remember because I remember the guy telling all the women like if you're on, if it's that time of the month, you can't be on set. It's you'll come after you. Yikes. Yeah. Don't you guys are, I mean, I, oh gosh. No, I mean, all of our memories are of laughing on set. But literally all we think, like when I think about boy meets world, more than anything, I just think about us laughing together all the time. Just all

time. It's so it's such a positive memory. And thank you so much for, I mean, just listening to hear how you stood up for Danielle and, you know, like that is truly, like that is an invaluable thing that you did. And it, I was just so scared though. Yeah. At that point, I was kind of like, okay, fire me. Right. Because, you know, and thank God for caring too, because she was, she was a big advocate also. It was just like we are not doing this. Yeah. And you guys just made it so much fun.

I will have to say like the things that you guys did. Yes. Sometimes. We have to go to dinner. We have to last. We have to have like a long three hour meal and catch up. We're in North Carolina. I'm actually down in Carolina Beach. So it's down Wilmington. Okay. Great. Thank you so much. It's so great to see you. It was really great seeing you guys too. And, and I hope everything has been amazing for you guys. Yeah. You as well. And we're so, so happy to see you and hopefully we get to see you

in person and give you a big hug soon. Absolutely. You guys take care. You too. Bye, Julie. Bye. Dude, A. She looks the same. But B. What a career. I know. That's kidding. In scene that the show she's worth. The second I saw is just like all the memories that I'm flooding back and it's just like right. Like she was just part of her group. Like, and we used to go to, I mean, it would, by the end, we weren't in our dressing rooms at all. We would go hang out. Yeah. We did that. We had craft service.

We'd be in Julie's room. Yeah. Because once I got out of school, I was never anywhere but on set.

Right. We were just always hanging out and just craft service. Julie's room. Yeah. We were just be roaming around, laughing, telling stories. I mean, just constantly making each other laugh. Yeah. Just the best. It was such a great. I'm so much fun. Her laugh is the same. It brought me right back. All right. No, we don't have Danielle. Can we, can you do the outro? What do we say?

“Oh, I have to do it because you have to do the merch call. Do you want to switch it up? Do you want”

me to do the outro? And you do the merch call? Uh, no. Because I don't have any idea. So you got to thank you all for joining us for this episode of Pod Meets World as usual. You can write to us somewhere

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