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You may think you know Lala Kent from watching her on Vanderpump Rules or The Valley, but Danielle is going way back in time to learn about “Lauren from Utah.”   Lala shares what it w...

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interesting people to finally return a favor, and share their awkward teenage stories with me,

a former child actor who already lived out her own moments of puberty in front of millions of TV viewers. And so I look at it like this. I gave you my childhood, it's time we hear yours. And this week, I'm chatting to a reality television phenomenon, an actress, a singer, a podcaster, an author, a mother and a former bar hostess who somehow flipped her struggling Hollywood dreams into an empire bigger than she ever could have imagined. Her time on Vanderpump rules through her into the spotlight,

but it's her dedication to turn lemons into lemonade that made her a long-term fan favorite, and the star of another show, Bravo's The Valley, which she currently calls home alongside best friend

and crucial piece of the scanned of all puzzle, Tom Schwartz. She says open on social media,

as a Chinese restaurant on Christmas, candid about her sobriety, cosmetic upgrades, and the beauty empire she's built, evolving from famous party girl into unscripted TV's cool older sister. But if you ask me, underneath the hip, beautiful exterior must live an awkward teenager, just waiting to overshare with me. So this week on Teen Beat, I am thrilled to sit down with

Lala Kent. Wow, that was like the most spectacular intro I think I've ever had in my life.

I love it. Thank you. I'm happy to be here. Yes, I'm so happy to have you. I have to ask as someone very fresh off the dancing with the stars live to her. I have to ask,

how did you grow up in Utah and avoid ballroom dancing? You know, that never, that is so funny

last time, because that was actually like a main credit in junior high. And my dearest friend, after we graduated, and you know, we were done with with our school years. She actually went back to teach ballroom. Yeah, and I just could never get into it. I don't know, I'm just, I just, I, I like to think that I can move and I like to think that I'm athletic until I try and I'm like, oh, I am so awkward. In my, in my mind's eye, Utah's just filled with ballroom dancers,

Everywhere you turn.

No, totally true. Yeah, it's pretty, I mean, I know that it's supposed to be because I think BYU added it as a major and, and then basically, it just kind of, it took off. Yes, I, I like to be the rebel. Yeah, now like when everyone's raving about a TV show, I wait until no one raves about it and then watch it. Yeah, you know what? I'm not, I'm not that much different than you. I also am that way. If someone, if everyone's making a big fuss about something, I'm like, okay,

everyone settled down. I'm not trying to go against the grain. Like, I'm like, look, I'm willing to watch it. I just don't want to watch it while it's all the rage. Exactly. I wait for things to kind of calm down. So now that I'm out of Utah, maybe I'll get into ballroom dancing.

Well, would you ever do dancing with the stars? I have always said that that would be the one show

that I would, that I would say no to and here's why. Listen to me dancing with the stars because I'm so intimidated by it. Really? Yes, it would take me out of my comfort zone

in such a way that I think I'd have a panic attack. Yeah. But this new mindset that I have taken

on where it's like, I want to be uncomfortable. Yeah. Now I want to say, if that opportunity presented itself, right? I think I would be all in for the mere fact that I want to feel uncomfortable, so badly. Yeah. You'll definitely feel uncomfortable. Yeah. It's in a, I mean, I loved every single second of it. But there's no doubt that it is, you know, it can be uncomfortable and you are

working your butt off. And if you're like me and have, I had never even taken a dance class

before doing dancing with the stars. So like I was starting from zero zero zero. And so yeah, you're out of your comfort zone. And then, you know, I am, I'm a perfectionist. And so for me, having the cameras on all the time and being miced all the time, which you are probably used to, I am not. I felt like, okay, you know what? I could really actually learn this dance. If we got the cameras out of here, and we got this mic off of me, right? The, it just feels so weird

to know you are being watched while you're learning something that's very vulnerable. You know, what though, I even though I am used to being miced and just like living and existing, it's similar to like, if you were to mic me and put a camera on if I were going on a date. Yeah, I can't do this,

even though I, I think I know how, if you're watching and listening to everything, it would be

the same with with dancing. And I remember seeing you at the I heart party, and this was probably in October. And you said it was the most difficult thing you've ever done, but you were having the time of your life. You had to hold a hamstring or something. You're exactly right. Yeah, yeah, I had just come off of a massive injury, and I was like, don't want to ever stop. I'm going to do it every day for the rest of my life. Yes, you were having the best time. And you

know what? I think if I allowed myself to say you're going to be uncomfortable, but you're going to do it, I would feel so accomplished. Yeah, yeah, you definitely would. Well, I really do think

you would be quite an asset on the show. And I think knowing how incredible the show was for me,

I would love for you to have that experience as well. So I fingers crossed that we are manifesting that for you. I love manifesting. And in this time of incredible eclipse, you know, we're in an eclipse. And so now is the time to bring forth all of the things from our future selves. So those were manifesting for you. I love it. I know your dad had been a part of the Mormon church, but he left before you were born. What was it like growing up surrounded by the LDS community,

but not actually being a part of it? Was it harder for you to make friends, do you think?

It was strange. And I was difficult because even though my dad left the Mormon church when he was 22, which was well before I came into the world, there were so many things that you could tell, and I'm trying to be very respectful, that he clearly had been told his entire life, right? That we're not good. And that's evil and don't do that. Where it was almost like I had to coach my dad through those moments. I like it's all good, man. Like let it go. This is not, and this is not

determining whether you go to the highest kingdom of heaven or not. But I kind of gravitated towards people who also didn't have Mormon families. And you know, my mom was raised very Christian, and my dad was raised very Mormon, and I think they came together and thought let's just raise our kids with spirituality. That was very heavy in my household. We set our prayers every single night when things got tough. We turned to God, but it wasn't in a way that is organized religion,

if that made any sense. Yes. And you know, my mom didn't, my mom didn't try to keep us away from the Mormon church. If I had a group of friends in elementary school and they went to young

Women's and they invited me, my mom would say go, like have fun.

like a Mormon thing, right? It wasn't until my grandmother took my little brother to church one Sunday.

And he came home with a matching game, which was basically the sequence of events that happens,

right? Which was like go on a mission temple marriage. And that's when my mom said, we will no longer be sending these kids to anything that has to do with this church. Okay. Yeah. My parents were kind of similar. Both my parents were raised a pretty strict Catholic. Okay. And so they had been kind of indoctrinated into this idea that to be a spiritual or a god believing in family, you also had to be a part of the Catholic church. And that meant school.

I went to, I can't even remember the name of it now, but I went to that school where every Wednesday we had to learn about Catholicism, Catholicism. We went to that every Wednesday and we went to church every Sunday. And my brother and I complained about it every single week. And my parents to their credit realized they also really did not want to be doing this. They were only doing it out of guilt and the way they had been raised. And so they realized like, I don't think

the organized religion part of this is what we're believing in. I think it's just a belief in God.

And so my parents we similarly no longer went to the Catholic church. And for us it was a moment when my grandfather realized there was like some issue with the, he was paying for school. And something happened where he realized, oh, they care about his money. This Catholic Catholic church is a money making enterprise. And that was it. He was done. He was done with the Catholic church after that. So once you want to see things for what they are, it is very hard to unsee.

Yes, that is true. Mormons are very visible in pop culture right now. Did you ever expect so much of Utah to also end up in Hollywood? Not at all. I remember being at the very first bravo con in New York. And then I, I remember seeing Andy in the green room and he was like, you're gonna die. Guess who we're announcing today as the new city Salt Lake. And I was thrilled about it because when I already knew what housewives was like. And I'm like, yes, now you're going to

add that crazy religion to the mix. Oh, this is going to be good. And then once the Mormon wife show came out, it was like everyone's talking about the skincare and the hair routine and the I,

the bleaching for the teeth. And this wig with the, you know, coffee me in it. I never expected that.

And it's crazy to look, look at it because it's something that I recognize, but I'm not close to if that makes sense. Oh, yeah, it feels very, very familiar and very triggering, because although in my day to day with my friend group, none of us were raised LDS, but when I went to my grandma's house on my dad's side, it was very, very clear that we were the black sheep of the family, right? You know, and I noticed that as I got older and I remember bringing my boyfriend to

family dinner. And he and I had to leave because I had theater practice. Like I, I needed to go and to my high school and rehearse something. And my grandma was so concerned that I was going to be gay because I was in the arts. And it was like, so isn't that the strangest thing you've ever heard? And as I got, as I left with my like six four hunk of a boyfriend, by the way, I'm like,

what you should be worried about is if I'm going to go (bleep) him.

Because I can't be worried about the fact that he's taking me to my high school rehearsal. And I'm going to be alone with him at a car. That's what we should really be focused on. But it's like the, these little things that I, that I do remember. And when I watch whether it's housewives of Salt Lake or Mormon wives, I'm like, oh, I remember my family, my dad's family. I don't have any communication with any of them any

longer. I remember those little things. Yeah. That stick with you. And I'm like, I can't imagine having that every single day to where you actually believe that certain things are wrong. Yeah. And I felt so badly for my dad as well because I think he really loved the arts. And I don't think that he was ever able to participate in them because of what his parents thought that meant.

I have never shared that before. Isn't that a heartbreaking thing when you get old enough

Wise enough to really think about your parents' journey as human beings and n...

what they, who they are to you. But just like your dad, as a young man, recognizing that he loved

something that he probably never fully got to embrace. Yeah. Like that. I think I struggle a lot with

that now that he's gone, I look back on a lot of things. And I just, I think his upbringing was really hard. I think he always felt different and felt that he just didn't, the Mormon church did

not resonate with him. And that is a struggle for me. And I think that's why babyed my dad so much.

Like letting him know, like you're good enough, you don't need to be yourself up over things like this, always good, you're human. It sounds like you were able to do that from a really young age. Do you, do you feel like you've always been a little bit of a therapist in your family and your friend's life? Yeah. I remember at a very young age when my mom had lost her dad laying in bed with her. And she was obviously beside herself. And gosh, I was so young. I was still an elementary school.

But, um, and I don't know exactly what I said, but my mom brings it up often where she's like, you got me through that moment. And I remember even with my dad, you know, talking him through things. I just was very, um, in tune with my, my emotions and seeing things. And you know what, it's a blessing and a curse looking back. It, it's like, oh, wow, how, how amazing as a child that I could do that. But as a child taking that on, felt like a huge burden. I felt like, yeah,

I was never able to be a kid and not because of my parents. My parents were, they were begging

me to be a kid. Yeah. But my mind just was always wanting to be older. That resonates with me so fully. I can't even tell you. I was exactly the same way. I never wanted to be in my present age or my present state. I was always anticipating the needs of others. I was always forward thinking and just couldn't wait to be an adult and not because of all the fun things you think of about being an adult. Even the mundane just sounded wonderful to me.

And I, you know, sure enough, it's pretty freaking awesome to be an adult. I do love it, even though

it's hard and there's a lot of things. I think about how I felt as a kid and felt kind of, um,

I don't know. I just, it never felt like I was supposed to be young. I was always an old woman

in a young person's body. Oh, my gosh. I so relate to that. Yeah. By the way, I'm 35 and I feel like I'm 85. I'm like, oh my gosh, it's 7 o'clock. I've got to get to bed. Thank you. Me too. If I'm up in its past nine, I'm like, guys, Mama's got to sleep. I don't know what you, what you think in this is here. You mentioned that you had a six four super hot boyfriend in high school. It was when did you not, when did you just love, start like realize that you just loved boys and winded boys,

start reciprocating that feeling back to you. Oh, I remember my first boyfriend in the third grade Taylor, I carried his school picture and we were long distance, which meant he went to a different elementary school than me. Oh, man. Yeah, that's tough. And then he got, he had a crush on a different girl at his own school. So I called him and said, you go through girls like you go through

underwear. I will never forget it. What if they're great if they're great? Where did you get this

line? I think my mom, my mom. Do you think she said it to you about him? Like, oh, he goes through girls like underwear. Because I've always had a very close relationship with my mom at the very young age. I just shared everything with her. So you get it. It's like, that's a safe space. This woman like clothed me fed me. Like, she's my everything. Yeah. Um, but I think I got, I think I got very boy crazy in the seventh grade where it was like, my braces came off. Oh, yeah,

you had a glow up. Yes, I had a locker where I could keep pictures and a mirror and put my lip gloss on and I just, it was like, grown men. We're different than elementary school. Um, and then in high school is when I, and I talk about this all the time. My most productive and healthy relationship thus far is my high school sweetheart that I met at 17, which was the six four man. Okay. Um, we were together until I was 20. I ended up moving out to LA to give it a shot and he stayed back in

Utah and things just, um, I think had to run their course. Mm-hmm. Um, I have nothing but amazing memories of him and he's the person I lost my virginity to. So that I'm so grateful for because yeah, as you know, like the first time having sex, that is kind of what tease you up for your relationship

With sex going forward, right?

Exactly. So I was so, I'm so grateful that my first time being intimate with somebody was just

that it was intimacy. It was partnership. Um, and but after him, man, I was, I was out of the

race as well. Oh, yeah. I mean, at least if you're going to say after that, you were ready to go. You were 17 to 20, you're in your 20s. Which is college age is the first big time to really, that's where you have, that's where, you know, the biggest opportunity for self-discovery comes about. It's for a lot of people the first time you're out from under your parents' room. Totally. And you're making your own decisions about who you're going to hang out with and

when you're going to come home and who you're going to go on a date with and when, when and where those dates take place. So yeah, all of that, all of that makes sense. I was also boy crazy starting in elementary school. Uh, I had my first boyfriend that I remember, um, was not long distance and he, if he did end up having a crush on someone else, it would have been on a boy because he is gay. Uh, and it was pretty obvious he was gay then to everyone except me. Um, and but, you know,

that did pretty much just set me up for moving forward. I have always loved gay men.

Oh, don't I? You and me both. Yeah. Love love a good gay guy. I just think they're wonderful. They're a perfect gay. I mean, my last people to be same, same, great people to be in relationships

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Them?

I think for him he has really conquered an art and that is going for girls, not women, who are easily impressionable. Don't have much life experience. You say the word Chanel and you've got them. You say the word movie producer and you've got them. You don't do much research. You just see the shiny object and I think he knows exactly who to pray on. Right. And I think he thought when he met me, I'm a girl from Utah. I don't think he ever anticipated

the strength that I have. Right. I think I really shook this man to his core. Yeah. Yeah.

Which makes me very proud. Good. Yeah. You should feel, you should feel good about.

So thanks to Vanderpump rules and the valley you are surrounded with drama and gossip. In high school, did you were you a part of any scandals or love triangles or was that just something you ran into later in your life? You know, I think the typical scandals that, especially growing up in Utah, everybody knows everybody. And I thought moving to LA, it would be different. It's actually, it actually feels smaller. Smaller. I know everyone knows everyone. This is freaking smaller.

Social media was not. I wasn't on social media. I don't know when you got it. I remember

getting my first. I had downloaded Instagram a few times and then thought this is so dumb. I'm deleting

it. It wasn't until I got to LA and started wanting to be in the industry again and getting the

bug where I was like, oh, I guess social media is kind of needed now. Yeah. Oh yeah. For sure.

It wasn't in the know about a lot of things when I lived in Utah. Yeah. That makes sense. I mean, you're a good 10 years younger than me. So I mean, I really social media since my space. Girl, you have a lot of age. One day since boy means world. Well, thank you very much. But tell that to my knees. Yeah. Yeah. So I have, I mean, truly. I remember my space. But as far as like actually using social media for work purposes, it did not start for me until girl meets world. So we're talking

like 2014. So like, you know, just 12 years ago of being like, okay, I guess this is where I'm supposed to promote things that come out and talk about things and let people know here and then, you know, even still now, like when I did dancing with the stars, I hired a social media team because I knew how important that was. And, and then the minute it was over, I was like, well,

I don't really what will I make content about now? And so I let them go. And now I just never post.

Social media is my worst enemy. Mine too. Mine too. Do you have a social media team?

I just recently brought one on. Maybe a couple months ago. Okay. I have imposter syndrome and all of the things that they want me to do that get millions of views. I look at and I'm like, oh, I got so embarrassed. People are loving the content. But it just, it's out of my comfort zone. Yeah. I saw one of yours that made me laugh so much where you were doing all of the AI's going to take your job. It was so funny. So, whatever you're using, it's working, you look great.

Well, thank you. So, keep it up. And maybe if you like them, share their information with me. There's, by the way, he is absolutely fantastic. You would love to. And I love, I, I do love the content. It just, yeah, I feel so exposed on social media. I know. I'm the same way. Even when I get an ad for something that I love because I'm very choosey about the things I do

ads for. I, I, I'm not the type of, I just have never been able to be the type of person to be like,

oh, you're willing to pay me whatever that is. I'll take it and I'll promote whatever your thing is. I really, I'm like, well, what is it? If I don't, if I'm not familiar with it already, please send it to me. Let me use it for a while. Let me tell you. And even when I'm like, I love this thing. Like when I had Adler, I loved the DACA taught the DACA taught. I loved my DACA taught. And I got paid to do an ad for DACA taught on Instagram. They were totally fine with the fact that

I don't show my kids faces. Everything about it was a perfect partnership. And yet any time I've ever had to go post an ad, I immediately feel cringe. I'm just like, I, I can't believe I have to do this. People are going to think this. And yet I love love the thing I've advertised. I totally, you are so seen. What is that? Why? I don't know. I just feel so, I don't know what that is. It's just an internal battle that you have to get over. And there's nothing you can do to work on it except for you're

Doing it.

thing. Liquid IV. I freaking love it. I take it every day. My Samsung phone. I've been a Samsung

user for 12 years. Like, I don't do ads for things unless I love them. So why do I feel bad telling

people when I love something? I know it's probably because of the end you have to like direct people

to a link. And then you know the comments section can get to you. Yeah, it's true. It's true. I think also it comes back to my somewhere for me. It's asking anybody for anything ever. It makes me feel worthless. And that's it. That's not a good way to feel like we need community. We need help. It takes a village. All the things I know and would say to other people. But when it comes to myself, I think I am supposed to be fully autonomous and a one woman show.

And if I don't do every single thing myself, then I'm somehow failing or I'm draining resources that other people could be spending doing something else. And so even though I'm just telling you, I like this brand, this brand has made my life better. It feels like I'm asking people for something. And I think it goes back to that. That would make total sense. Yeah, thank you for

working that out with me. You're welcome. I'm always here to listen to you. I feel that way with men.

I don't need you to buy me anything. Don't take me to dinner. You don't need to call my over because I don't want to owe you anything. Right. Right. Yeah. So it sounds like we both have our issues. We both have some issues. But you know, maybe if we just talk more, we need to we need to make this a regular, a weekly thing. I love it. So now you are hosting an unlikely affair alongside

Amber Childers, someone who was wildly entangled in your past relationship. Have you always been

able to mend fences with people? Do you easily forgive? I don't hold a grudge. I think if a productive conversation is had, I can move on pretty quickly. I don't have any problem taking accountability for my my part. I know it sounds so cheesy because people say it all the time. I know I am not perfect. I am a lot to handle. I can be a loose cannon, which I'm working on.

But I never understood that saying I'll forgive, but I'll never forget. I'm like, well, that's

what's the point of forgiving them if you're just going to remember the whole time. So I've I forgive. I forget I move on. I love that. And I think again, I'm very similar. Very similar. I love that. I really do. I think the record keeping in relationships. By the way, I think you can totally forgive and forget as long as what you're saying is what I've learned about you has shown me that I truly do not want you in my life and any capacity. I forgive you. I'm no longer going to

carry negative energy about you or the situation, but I really want you to stay far the hell away for me and we're not going to be in each other's lives. But if you're going to forgive and then still operate in each other's fears, you kind of do need to forget because otherwise you're deciding the whole time and that's not that's not real forgiveness is it not at all not at any capacity and I'm the same way. If if behaviors have shown me something where I'm like, okay,

this experience I'd be a dumbass to keep you around and pretend all good. Like you said, you're a liability. The states are very high for me. You stay over there and I'll stay over here. Just pretend like we don't know each other. Exactly. I have quite a few of those in my life and those people, they've been a couple of times those people have reached out and tried to, you know, hi, I'd like to talk to you about what happened 20 years ago and we're good. I have worked very hard

to forget you exist. I don't need you. I don't need you back here and you want to know what people, I know there's people out there that feel that way about me. Right. Where I may have been a toxic presence in their life and you know what, I apologize and I wish you all the best, you know, like there's some people who just aren't meant to be friends. Yeah. You're right. And there are moments to where I've looked at things that have gone south and I'm like, you know what? I'm not a bad person.

You're not a bad person. Mm-hmm. We're not meant to be. Oh, it's good. Absolutely. Isn't that the point of relationships figuring that out? Who do we keep? Who do we not keep? Who's for us? It's the whole point. So, nothing wrong. Nothing wrong with getting to the bottom of it and being like, hey, we're not a match. Yeah. Peace out. Have a great life. No time wasted. Yeah. No time wasted at all. Another thing we have in common is our obsession with new beauty treatments. I am very envious of you, though, because you

go out there and try everything and then report back. Can we talk about, because I am, I've never had a

Laser treatment.

going to hate you. No, it's just a ringlight. It's just a good lighting. I just have good lighting in here. That's all it is. But listen, I would love to talk about some of your recent endeavors and what your experiences are with them. Can we talk about Morphias? Morphias. Okay. I've done Morphias

one time and you have to know this. It was after my last boom job. Okay. So I was fully under. They

did my boobs and they did my chest. You have to have a few treatments. I am a a C, right? Okay. And it was very painful recovery. So I didn't feel it. My mom's done it. She was like, that was brutal. And she has a very high pain tolerance. That's like past kidney stones, like yeah, nobody's business, right? So I didn't fulfill the rest of the treatments. If you're

a gangster and can handle pain, Morphias is incredible, especially for like tightening and plumping

the skin, I would do it. I wouldn't do it because I'm, yeah, not you, but you. Right. Right. Yeah, I, I was told because I, I had a consultation with a plastic surgeon a couple of years ago about having a potential mommy makeover when I knew I was done having kids. And I was like, you know, maybe I'll have a little tummy tuck, maybe I'll get a little breast lift. And in that consultation, the doctor I was meeting with actually told me that first I should do a boob job

because he didn't want to do them at the same time. He was like, the, the mommy makeover thing. They're better done differently. It's scary. Yeah. And so he had recommended that we try Morphias before the tummy tuck. So he said, while you're under for the boob job, I can do Morphias on your stomach to see if it helps tighten any of the loose skin there. And he said, and I would want to do it while you were under because the deeper you're able to go, the better the results are,

but it's so painful. You can't, like, you, I wouldn't be able to go that deep if you were just under local and like local and so he did say that. And then I thought, but then what do you do for the follow-up treatments? You're not going to be put under every time for Morphias. So that just doesn't seem, well, if he's going super deep, though, maybe you don't need as many treatments. I, if you end up doing that, I would really like to know how you feel about it because how many

kids do you have? Two. So I don't know if this happened with you. My, and I hate this f*** term, but I'm going to say it. Am I going to say snap at me? Yes. I hate it. Was it better after the first and my gone by the second? Yeah, the second. I'm in plank position, girl. I look at my stomach. I'm like, oh, who's 90 year old stomach is this? Exactly the same. And I actually just assumed it was because I was much older as I'm on. My first I had at 38, which is not young, and my second

I had at 40. So I thought, okay, it's because I'm 40 having a kid, but my after my first, I got

my pre-pregnancy body back within the year. Like, it never even happened. Like, it never happened.

Normal. Second, everything's Lucy, go see. Lucy, go see. I'm so insecure about it. Yep, because it's when I move a certain way. I can't be on top of a man. Are you crazy?

Oh, yeah, forget it. Absolutely. That works. Because here's the thing with the tummy tuck,

you were scared. Funky belly button. I know. And the belly button that looks like everyone else's belly button. And a scar, hip to hip. Yeah. Do the more fias. You know what? I have a pre-op call for my, I'm getting my boobs redone. It's like reconstructive surgery. Maybe I'll ask them if they can smack my stomach without more fias. Maybe I'll be reporting back to you because my

boobs job is March 16. Wow. Okay. And that was this your third. It's my third. It's a revision.

Is okay. Tell me because I don't, I'm only thinking about it. Tell me. Do you, do you, looking back? Do you wish you had ever had your boobs done? Could you imagine a time? Could you imagine a world where you're like, yeah, I would absolutely do this a hundred times over to have these results. What's your opinion on the boob job? I love the boob job. Okay. I love the boob job. I wish I wouldn't have gotten them done at the age of 20. I felt like that was completely unnecessary

and stupid, but I'm all about the boob job and they've come so far with the technology as

far as like making the implant. Yeah. I say life is short. Get the boob job. If I'm short, get the

lips, but you don't need the lips. No, these are mine. But I do. I am, I'm at definitely at a place post-cancer post-to-children. How did I not know that? Yes. Cancer 2024. Just, what? Fresh out. Breast cancer. Breast cancer. So, I have a, I have a two pretty large scars on my right breast where I had two lumpectomies and a lymph node removed and the lymph node had no cancer in it,

It's, you know, you have to have it removed in order to make sure the cancer ...

And, and then with weight loss and with two children who breastfed. Yeah. I don't, I don't recognize what's going on anymore from, you know, just to below my belly button, you know,

clue, no clue whose body this is. And so, I've recently started thinking, I think I would feel

significantly better about myself if I had some sort of breast lift and or got rid of this extra skin. And yet, I struggle very much with the idea that that is also a little bit insane. Like, my husband is not looking at me saying to me, you hideous beast. Right. I am only saying not to myself. And like, that's probably coming from a really unhealthy, not evolved part of my brain and my personality that I would probably be better working on in therapy. And also, like, it's,

how often is anyone going to see that? Like, I do think, well, it would be cute if I could like

wear a cute little crop top every now and then, but I would never. Right now, I wouldn't be caught dead

in a crop top with my loose stomach or in a two piece. And yet, I'm taking my kids on a wonderful vacation for spring break. And I think, look at all these cute two pieces. They're cute on other people, but they wouldn't be cute on me. I, so then I struggle, because I'm like, maybe this is more of a therapy thing than a surgery thing, but I do know I would feel better if I had the surgery. All right. You're not going to like what I have to say. Number one, I'm so grateful you're okay.

Okay, yes, that's me too. Thank you. The second thing, I remember going in. So what's having on my right side is I have, and I've always bought it, capsular contracture. Yes, okay. So when you, there's certain positions you make, and it looks, you can, like, a muscle is moving in your, yes, implant. But now it's beyond that. And it didn't happen the first two boom jobs. It happened the third, or it happened after my second baby because, and they're thinking

it has to do with mass, mass status, where the clogged milk duct that obviously caused some sort of germ and reaction. It's concave on the side. I go in for my annual booby screening. And she tells me what it is. That's where I first learned what it is. And she said, I have a great doctor for you. Don't go until you're done having kids. And I said, yeah, I mean, I don't need to go any time soon. Who am I trying to impress? And she goes, you do it for yourself. You don't do it for anybody else.

So as much as I think that we can work on with therapy, if you feel that you would feel better

with a little nip tuck, you should do that. Yeah. Yeah. Because you have to see yourself naked

every day. You know, like you, your, your man thinks you're beautiful. That's great. But you

have to feel beautiful. We can be told all day long that we are bounce back as amazing and you're

gorgeous. We have to feel that way. And if that comes with me getting a little procedure done, I'm going to freaking do it. Right. Right. No, you're right. You're right. And I go back and forth because I also think it wouldn't it be great if what I really felt was, yeah, there's a little bit of loose skin. But I made two babies and who cares? But I don't actually feel that way. What I feel like is I made two babies. I love my two babies. I'm so grateful for my body that I was

able to make those two babies. And now I would like to recognize the body that made those two babies. And I don't recognize it. Yeah. And yeah. Okay. So thank you. I, I think again, when you get that done and you come to me and you're like, I'm thinking about getting this done in this, then we go see the therapist.

Now there's bigger issues. But right now I think what you're saying is totally fine. Okay. All right.

Thank you. You're right. But you know what? And knowing me, probably won't be too long. I'll be like, all right. These nasally beautiful. What do we do? How do we get rid of these? Then we got to call the therapist. Okay. Yes. Another thing we have in common. This is just to me. This interview is me just telling you all the things that I've discovered. We have in common. I love it. We are both sneaker heads. I love a sneaker, babe. Oh, me too. I have a sneaker. Okay. So it used to be Jordan ones.

So that was always, that's my favorite number one favorite silhouette. I think they look great on

men. They look great on women. They make so many different great colorways. They look good under every type of gene. They look great with skirts. They look, they look great with everything. But I've also recently become obsessed with the Jordan four. It's another one of my absolute favorite silhouettes. And I love some of the colorways. They've done. I have the orchids. I have the bricks. And I love them. So have you always been into shoes, specifically sneakers or is that something

that you've evolved into? I think I evolved into it. I was a big heel girl for a very long time.

Then after my babies, I was like, what am I doing?

Yes. I just want my closet full of different sneakers. Because like you said, I could wear it

with a dress, a skirt, a sweatpants, jeans. I love them. Same. That's exactly my journey. I was a

heel almost exclusive. I mean, even during the day to run errands, I had a heel on. Yeah. I don't know. It's called being in your 20s, I guess. And then in my late 30s, after having kids, I was like,

what are we doing? And I always had like I had some converse and in high school, I had converse

and you know, I've just in general loved shoes. But boy, it before I became just sneakers, I was all about the heels. You and me both. Yeah. Wow. I really do love this new phase. And the thing that I love is that all of the feelings I got about like self-expression from heels because of the different colors. I knew this one's patent and this one has a T-strap and all of those, I get all those same things with sneakers. Oh, you mean, yeah. Yeah. I'm like, what

was I ever missing? I don't know. It's just, they're, they're perfect. You have two beautiful children.

You have two girls. Oh, you have two girls. I have two girls. I thought you had a son in a daughter.

No, I have two. They have kind of boy names, though. I have, okay. Who's my five-year-old? Should we be five next month? Okay. Say, is a year and a half. Both girls. Okay. Both girls. What are they into? What are their current interests at five and one and a half? Oh, Ocean is just the girlyest of girls. I had to wipe her face clean because she put on makeup and I said, you cannot wear makeup to school. Why mom? You're four inches. I'm gonna be five next month. I was like,

still too young. You're not wearing makeup to school. Change is a million times a day.

Goes through my closet says, "We used to save this for me for when I get older. I really want this." And Soza is just kind of mimicking right now. So if she sees Ocean playing dress-up, she wants to play dress-up. If she sees mommy putting on makeup, she wants to put on the makeup. Yeah. So it'll be, they're so different, though. I can already tell that they're going to be very different. Ocean's very independent, not much phases. Her so-so gets her feelings hurt if you look

at her wrong. Yes. Yes. Sometimes you think you've conquered the art of motherhood. Like, I'm crushing this. And then the second one comes and you go, this is going to take a new set of skills. Yes. Yes. And my mom was very good about that growing up. My brother and I are very different.

And she had to mother us very differently. And so she always said that. So thankfully for me,

it wasn't totally shocking. Because she had said, like, whatever your first one is, don't think that's going to be the only type you're going to have. Your second's going to throw you for a loop. And sure enough, my boys are exactly the same. They're very different. Adler is a totally Adler is a Joc and into all things athletic and sports. And he wants to play with us or with a friend. He's incredibly social. And then Keaton is like, "I'm good. I'm good on my own.

I'm good to play by myself." Now Keaton is the younger one. Keaton's the younger one. Okay. Yeah. And so yeah, just totally different. I have to, I have to parent them differently. And it is pretty wild. I know. Because I'm like, "You can't." Well, for you, they came from the same person. For me, anytime ocean does something, I don't like. I'm like, "Uh, you got that from your dad." I still do that. And we're married. But I said, if there's something I don't like, it's not for me.

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Is it it's not where the movie theater is, right? Where the arc light used to be? It's not in that center.

No. So I think it's South. Okay. South of, does that make sense? South of venture or does that venture?

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some of your more recent moves quiet. Are we looking at 2026 as a year of a possible public romance for you? I think I'm going to find my person this year. You do. I do. I feel why you just feel it. I just feel it. I feel like I've, I talked to the universe on New Year's Day and I sat outside of my house in Palm Springs. And I just said, like, I am open to anything and everything that you want to bring to me. I said there is no conversation that is too difficult to have. There's no roadblock that I,

that I can't get over and that I haven't faced before. And I said, and I want you to know, I've told you I don't want a person and I am okay being solo and I'm letting you know that I'm actually very open to finding my person. So I just, I just feel that way. I love that. Well, as I mentioned at the very beginning of this podcast, you know, we're in the middle of an eclipse.

So now you should have another conversation with the universe and you should write what it is you

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Okay. Done. I'll do okay. Oh my gosh. I'm so excited. That's going to be what I do tonight.

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