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Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to podcasts. [Music] We got an interesting one today. Yeah. It was, did this as an interesting one?

And this is going to sound strange, but I was looking forward to this movie, because I know it sounds so bizarre. But here's why, because I seem to like the ones that are about more serious subject matters.

Sure. You know, color of friendship. And some are Lord Selma. I mean, there are a number of these movies we've seen, going to the mat.

A number of these movies we've seen now, that kind of tackle more serious subject matter, but doesn't, isn't it? If that makes sense through the eyes of a child. And they, I like kind of like the way they tackle them more.

I do. And it's one of those things where you go, that does need to get it again. Right. To be able to hit heavy topics, like you said,

through the eyes of a child, get it to where you see the level of like the weight of it, but it also isn't so much that like, you got to shield your kid from. You know what I mean?

It's done so elegant and perfectly, that you just go, wow. Because I actually was going, I mean, this, you know, I feel like the color of friendship and Selma were things

that were so, were far before I was around. This was a topic that I was not even a kid when it happened. I was like a senior in high school, you know, about to venture into, quote unquote,

like the big world. And this giant thing happens. And it was kind of like, oh my gosh, I don't know if I'm ready. Like, how far are we going to go?

You know, and again, I'm just going, wow, Disney. Okay. Yeah, here we go. Why didn't trust you?

Well, welcome back to magical rewind to show that makes you want to grab your friends, your PJs and your popcorn and go back to a time when all the houses were smart, the waves, tsunamis,

and the high school's musical. I'm Wilfredo.

Well, Sabrina, as we were talking about it,

if you ever thought to yourself, I mean, I love D-commerce, but I wish there was more about 9/11. Well, you're in luck.

“Cause today we're looking at the 2004 family drama”

inspired by real-life events, Tiger Cruise, which I knew nothing of this movie going in and man, it was not what I expected it to be. I know, joke, thought it was going to be about tigers. I thought it was going to be something with 9/11

and saving animals or something like that. Okay. Even slightly. I know. I only, from seeing it,

now recently, this movie actually got placed on Disney+ well after we started this. Oh, really? Okay. Okay.

Cause I remember this is a big one with obviously a big cast, a notable cast and a cast. And the producer is going, we can't find it anywhere.

It's not on you, too. It was not on this, it was not on Disney+ before when we first started our podcast, and it's since been released on it. Well, we are back, yes.

And it was, as Sabrina was saying, it was released on August 6, 2004 originally, just about three years after this September, 11th terrorist attacks. And again, as Sabrina said,

this one had some serious star power behind it,

which is always nice to see.

And yes, the story of the film is intertwined with real life events where the USS constellation did return from 2001 Western deployment after the planes hit the World Trade Center with quote unquote tigers on board,

which is code for family and friends in military terms. Now, despite the film being set on the USS constellation, the movie was actually shot on board the USS John C. Stennis, a nuclear-powered Navy supercarrier, and the USS Nimitz, which is,

well, one of the largest warships in the world. The movie was also shot on location in San Diego, a favorite West Coast Harbor town, and with a ton of awful, awful green screen. Am I wrong?

I mean, it was distracting me back. Am I wrong? Unfortunately, unfortunately. Which they shot them on board, these ships. So it's like, what's going on?

I could see it to shoot some stuff on stage, but I understand that. But yes, Yikes is right. Yikes is right. It was bad.

But anyway, now, with a subject matter,

it involves one of the biggest tragedies in American history. Critics noticed a change in the decommetone, of course. But with many of the tropes still intact. Variety's lore of fries, which is a delicious name. It might be freeze, but I'm going to say fries.

By the way, she wrote that tiger crews carried many Disney hallmarks, teen queen star, catchy theme song, predictable subplots, but it departed from the channel's usual fairytale formula without diluting the message. While the Pittsburgh Gazette's barber pizza slice.

I'm kidding, everybody still with me.

“Her name is actually a barber vent cherry, I believe.”

Hey, cherry. She said it was a veritable recruitment film, but it's a pretty good movie with solid leading performances. Tiger crews is also one of the only three Disney Channel original movies to bear a viewer discretion warning at the start.

Purely based on conversations you might have to have with your child around 9/11 after viewing it. We've talked about these warnings once before. Do you remember the other two movies, Serena? No.

Don't look under the bed. Was one of them. And Wendy Wu. Was the other one. Wendy Wu.

I imagine it was for the violent for the quote-unquote violence, the fight scene. Oh, the fight scene, okay. I mean, which we, again, we said violent. Our action not violence, but still for Disney. I could see why they would throw something up there.

Right. And musically, the theme song "My Hero Is You" plays during the end credits. And it's performed by the star of the movie. I'm going to say her name wrong. Every time people, but I will try it.

Hayden, penitere. Does it? Hey. Hey. I knew I got it.

Hayden, penitone. And is, and as is commonly the case, Tiger crews is available now to stream on Disney+. Go watch it within the next eight hours though, because after that, it starts to spoil.

Sabrina, I have to ask. It's a legal requirement of our show.

“Did you know of Tiger crews before it became part of our job?”

I, not before it became part of our job. No. Okay. No. But very quickly after I booked this gig.

I love how you booked it. We called them. We're like Sabrina. What you do is show with me. And that's you is booking the gig.

I'm going to say it every time. I quickly found out about it. Because you know, of course, I went on socials. And was like, give me all the good ones. And this one came up quite a bit.

Okay. That's great. Just look at the Irish. How do you be look at the Irish? Or bring, but I can see why.

Well, now let's inferl the massive flag of this awesome country, because it's time for the synopsis. A teen girl joined her Navy pilot father for a special friends and family sailing expedition on the USS constellation. But the experience turned serious when the events of September 11, 2001,

unfold and the ship is suddenly called into action. Sabrina, what were your early thoughts on the film? Well, I, again, I was a little nervous. And of course, I, like I said, was surprisingly like, wow.

I think that the subject matter is tough.

“I think also looking back and we kind of got a chance to see a link”

of like the interstitials that Disney was doing. Like they were really giving a place for kids to kind of soak this in and see the world as it was actually happening. And I thought it was done really well. That was my first.

What about you, Will? I, I agree. You know, I agree. I'm, my father was in the Navy for 25 years. Um, might even be more than that 30 years.

Uh, so I mean, while I know nothing of the world of being an actual sailor on the ocean and my, my father was based out of he was a, he was a, he was a, he was a reservist, but he was a very high rank in the reserves.

So he was, he loved being in the military.

It was just the joy of his life as defending his country. And so we were, I grew up in Connecticut and I spent a lot of time at the Grotten nuclear sub base. So my dad, like I would go there with friends and my dad would go to one of the people and like can, hey, can my boy just walk around this, the submarine.

So I grew up like walking on, walking through submarines and going on to ships and stuff like that. So this was, I, I have been on a, a super aircraft carrier before. Um, and it's literally a floating city. There's like 5,000 people, 5 or 6,000 people on there.

One of them now, and I could be wrong. So check me if I'm wrong.

“But I believe one of them literally has a McDonald's on board.”

I mean, they're incredible.

So we always talk about the worlds that people are not always familiar with.

Um, so this is certainly an interesting world to do it. To then know that it's a true story based around again, one of the greatest tragedies in our country and to do it through the eyes of a kid. I agreed with you. I was like, here we go, Disney, man.

This could really be bad. But then I know they're track record to where I'm like, they seem to do, when, when you, when Disney for a decom takes real story with something that's happened historically that is usually not great or very terrible. It usually works out pretty well.

They do it pretty pretty well. And if you talk about a couple that with then real story sports that maybe we wouldn't know about double team or, or, you know, the ender sisters in right on track. Things like that also seems to work out. They know what they're doing when it comes to these lanes.

“But man, you are swinging when it comes to September 11th and a decom.”

Yeah. I mean, to know exactly how to handle the subject matter because you're not talking like I said, it's not like Selma. It's not like color of friendship where you're talking about the past. You are talking right now about what is happening within like people actually experience this.

So it came out three years after 9/11. This was not like you said, not 20 years after the event. This is very, very much still fresh in the minds of everyone in the country. And people literally still, even after three years going through the repercussions that were actually involved or actually had family members that, you know, were happening.

So it was very, did you know what I said? I wish it was longer. Honestly. Did you know anybody that was lost in 9/11? I know.

I didn't. I felt, it felt weird because I felt so, like, connected within being a kid, wanting to be like, connected, but not having anyone actually actually involved. It wasn't until I did the Cheetah Girls in Met, Adrian and Keely, who Adrian lived in New York. Yeah.

Keely lived in, in New Jersey, but like Adrian telling me, you know, stories of her family members and having, you know, asked all over their bodies because they were in the streets when it happened. Yeah. I mean, friends, like, on their way to school, while this happened. Yeah.

I was a closest that I had gotten. How about you? I did. Yeah. There was, there was a girl in my high school and I grew up in a very small town.

So she was the, the year behind me in high school. And it was Amy Toyon. I knew her with a small K, everybody knew everybody. But, so yes, I did know her. And she, the story, I sense kind of deep dive to story.

And she was, like, the next day going to try on her wedding dress because she was going to be married. And didn't want to go to the meeting that morning in the World Trade Center. And was thinking of canceling. It's like all the horrible things you hear about of maybe almost wasn't there.

Then decided to go last minute, then was there and right before her wedding. It was like all the awfulness that you hear about in, in every one of these stories. I mean, everybody who was affected by this had one of these stories. And so yeah, in our town now, there's a, she was a voracious reader. And so in front of the Avon Public Library, we're, we're all the kids spent a ton of time.

It's where we would go and hang out.

So I go and I visit it when I'm there. It's, it still chokes me up.

“So yes, it was, in my brother worked in New York City.”

And you couldn't get in touch with anybody. And it was just, it was horrible. It was the uncertainty. And it was such a, just a crazy time. And I had friends that were my age that were like,

I'm going in and list right now and what's, I mean, it was, it was a time like anything that anybody, our age had ever experienced in this country. Because you heard about things. Obviously like Pearl Harbor in school. And, and the day that would live in infamy.

And, and these were abstract, you know, concepts that were in your history book. Right. And then you wake up one morning and it had happened and you're part of it. And you know, people directly affected. And you're watching it all live on television.

You're watching the second plane hit.

You're watching the towers collapse. It was like nothing. God willing anybody will ever experience again or had experienced since. And less you were very old and had been, you know, around in,

“for, for the time of Pearl Harbor, which was, you know, 1942.”

And less you were a veteran at that point. You hadn't experienced anything like this. So yeah, it was to then couple that with, we're, we're going to now do a decomm about it three years later. Again, Disney was swinging for the fences.

And well, let's get back into it and see how they did. And like I mentioned, the movie stars Hayden Penetier nailed it. As Maddie Dolan, a child actress who began her career on one life to live. Then bounced around to some very big projects. She was the voice of dot in a bug's life.

Not ants. Don't get them confused. And appeared on Ali McBeal. But it was her role as Claire on heroes that broke her into the mainstream. She would later start in the cult hit TV show "Nashville,"

which, of course, takes place in Texas. And we've, I'm kidding, it's Nashville. And we've already seen Hayden on magical rewind for the Disney movie Ice Princess, meaning we've talked about her, but she's, I don't think she'll visit. I'd like her visit.

But I don't think she will. Were you a heroes fan, did you watch heroes? I wasn't, but I was a giant Nashville fan. Oh, there you go. I should be a heroes fan because I'm such a nerd.

I own the entire series and I've never seen it.

I should pop it in and watch it. You like answering the DVD. I literally bought them at a garage sale. So I was like, "I'm gonna watch this when I get home." That was like 14, 15 years ago and I've never actually seen it.

But I should watch. Here it's great, especially for her. I heard it's awesome. I actually heard the first season is awesome. Is awesome.

Okay, how many seasons were there? Three, I want to say. Or two, it was one of those that like ended on a cliffhanger, and then they didn't pick up. So everyone was like, like the fans were like, "Wait, what the hell was that one?"

Then we've got another familiar face and one that I say is an underrated actor, even though he's been in everything. Bill Pullman, Placer Dad, Commander Gary Dolan. Almost all of us know him as the president and independent stay. Today, we'll be our independent stay.

It was a classic role, but he also played Lone Star and Space Balls. He was in the grudge, Casper, sleepless in Seattle, a league of their own, and David Lynch's lost highway.

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with an amazing cast where he is incredible. Go watch him in zero effect. Absolutely great. And you'll see him soon in the big 20/27 release Space Balls too. This was a big get for Disney at any time, because he is and was the man.

Troy Evans plays Chuck Horner.

He's an always working character actor who's played a cop or servicemen

maybe a hundred times. You've seen him in fear and loathing in Las Vegas. Under siege, the frightening demolition man, Bosch, and over 125 episodes of ER as Officer Martin, and his biggest claim to fame ever. Of course, he appeared in two episodes of Boy Meets World.

Most famously as Park Ranger and city slackers, a moose can't be a Ranger. And a security guard in the episode, security guard. Two other names worth mentioning are Jeanette McCurdy, is Kylie Dolan. McCurdy was a child actress who later became a Nickelodeon star on the show I. Carly, she'd also star on the show Sam and Kat.

And is now known for her bestselling memoir I'm Glad My Mom died. Curly being developed for TV with Jennifer Aniston, and her recently released debut novel, Half His Age. And finally, Jansen Penentier plays Joey Hayden's real-life brother also appeared as an actor on even Steven's blues clues, robots, and how high two tragically Jansen passed away

in 2023 from an enlarged heart and aortic valve complications. He was just 28 years old, rest in peace. For a millionaire name, direct to this one. One we've talked about many times on this podcast, Duane Dunham. He's best known as the editor of Star Wars, Return of the Jedi, and it was a frequent collaborator

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Just the nerd in me is like, what people must have thought when they first time they saw Boba Fett?

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“Okay kids, enough of all this, let's get down to what matters.”

How long is Tiger Cruise? Could this be a quick jaunt, or is it a three hour tour, a three hour tour? Yes, I said it, right? If you know you know, and if you don't, God, you're young.

We're hoping for 90 minutes, as we always do.

And this movie is 88 minutes too short of the target, but a very respectful number on the right side. We appreciate the ability to creatively express yourself in under an hour and a half, blessings to you and your family. You know, Rold Dal, the writer who thought I'd bully Wonka, Matilda and the BFJ.

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All right, y'all. Let's report to the mass hall and show some courage. It's time to review Tiger Cruise. We open at the Nas North Island Naval Air Station.

We pass military servicemen, fighter planes, and aircraft hangers, eventually landing on a street of on-base housing. It's September 2001, and young Maddie Dolan is packing your bags

to go on a Tiger Cruise, and annual sea voyage for families with relatives in the Navy. Her little sister, Kylie, who, of course, has gone on a few Tiger Cruise

is jealous of her sister's upcoming trip on the USS Constellation.

This will be her first ever.

Their dad, he's in Hawaii, so Maddie is flying there to meet him, then getting on the ship where she'll share a room with another Navy brat. Although if she doesn't like that term,

before they leave, Maddie's mom make sure she's actually excited to go on this trip because for years she has declined the invitation. Maddie tells her mom to just drop it, and we can assume that she has a strain relationship

with her dad,

“and we think it's because of his career in the Navy,”

but we're not quite sure yet. And now we're in New York City with a very sad, clear view of the World Trade Center. We're in the car with a young boy named Anthony and his dad. Anthony is also on his way to the Tiger Cruise

to visit his older brother Kenny. He's nervous, but is also constantly drumming with his sticks. He brings with him everywhere. Yes, he's got drumsticks,

and he ain't afraid to use him. Now we're at the St. Louis Airport. Another young boy, Joey, is leaving to join the cruise to see his mom. His dad says goodbye,

and says he'll meet them when they dock in San Diego. And we're rocking up even more frequent fire miles here because now we're in Seattle. We meet another Tiger who's on her way, Tina Torres, who will be joining her sister Grace on the ship.

She is a true military brat who wants to follow and her sister's footsteps, saluting and pretending to be a soldier in the mirror. It's now September 9, 2001, day one, and the Tigers are on their way to Pearl Harbor.

We see Maddie and Anthony on the plane chatting, but Maddie gets annoyed by his constant drumming on the seatback. Tina is sitting next to an older woman constantly talking about the Tiger Cruise and the massive USS constellation.

She's very proud of her older sister. Maddie's still feeling Anthony's percussion problem decides to take the seat next to Tina. And now we have the Diary of Mouth Chatting with our man character. While Tina is honored to be an AV brat,

Maddie is offended by the grouping and eventually worn out by this girl's incested yapping as is the older woman sitting next to her. They just want this girl to shut up. You go from drumming to talking.

I don't know which will be worse on a flight. Oh, either. It's like, oh man. This is going to be a lie. It's also Cindy.

That is not a quick jump. You're not going Sandy. You go to San Francisco. Now let it away. The kids have taken a bus to Pearl Harbor.

Are you, you're a big, quite person, right? Are you looking? Yes. Okay. So have you been to the Pearl Harbor exhibit?

No, actually.

We have never, my parents have gone,

but every time that we were there on that island for whatever reason we never went. And I'd something that I would love to go do. Yeah. Especially as an older, like just more of like, you know,

I could appreciate it. I could appreciate it. And yeah, I'm be able to appreciate it more. I would love to do it. Yeah, I've never, I've only been to Hawaii once.

And it was for like three days, four days. So I haven't had a chance to go. I'd like to see it as well. I hear it's very moving when you get there. Yeah, that's what I heard too.

Yeah. Maddie has moved seats again. Now sitting next to Joey, who is nervous as mom won't be there when they arrive. I, I, I feel like they skipped the scene.

Because he was, it was weird. She's sitting next to him on the bus. Like, caressing his hair. Like, we're going to find your mom. And I was like, wait, have they met?

Yeah. It was, and it was interesting to see because I obviously recognize this little boy is Hayden's brother. And I was like, you knew that was your brother.

Yes. And I was like, wow. She in no way is like putting that like actor barrier in the back. You can look really, you can tell.

This was her little brother and she just was like, he's on set with me protecting him. Like, you know what? I mean, like, it was like pretty pretty. I did actually love that part of it. I do.

I would, would like to have had one more scene of them meeting on the plane or something like that. I felt like they cut something. But I, but it seemed like it is obviously there. Yes.

Absolutely. It seemed like they, even though, yeah.

I was, it was very kind of confusing at first.

Yeah. They see the USS constellation for the first time. And it is massive. And unless you have actually been next to one of these warships, it is, you can't comprehend the scope.

“Have you been on a crew? Have you been on a cruise ship?”

No. Like on a bigger cruise ship? Okay. No. Because I really was trying to lock in because we've, I've done a lot of cruise in my head still, even though cruise ships are so big.

Right. Right. I still put this kind of ship. Even bigger. Like something like that.

I wonder how much bigger than like a giant. I've been on really big cruise ships. Yeah. Like how much bigger cruise ships. Maybe the cruise ships now are getting so big that they're, they're starting to

massive. Similar size. At the time, I mean, it's literally a working airport. Right. So it's a floating working airport.

In the middle of the ocean with thousands of people on board. Hundreds of planes, helicopters. I mean, it is a massive, massive thing. You do, you stand next to one and you're like, this can't be human made. I mean, they can't be, it's too big and engineering feet.

And then you get on your, you realize it's like, wow, this isn't safe. Well, not to mention when you're standing next to it. Right. There's like levels and levels and levels that go even farther into it. I think there's no index below the water.

Damn. So yeah. I mean, it's, it's really, really amazing. The, the, I think it's called the draft size, which is how much. Wake the boat puts out and how much underwater it goes with the keel.

I think it's called the draft size. It's massive when it comes to one of these, these vehicles. It's really cool. It's cool.

That is so cool.

“You should be on what they're really, they're really incredible.”

And I've been on them when they do this. I haven't seen the bombing runs that they do. But I've seen the Coast Guard rescue. So the helicopter will take off from the deck and they'll drop sailors into the water that then retrieve like a dummy that they attach to the thing.

And it goes up. It's really quite, I film of it. It's really quite remarkable to the watch. It's just to see this coordinated team and how every single person is so important. And it's just, it's really, really amazing.

I've always said the military.

When you see these actions, you see what can happen when people decide to work together. It's really great. So yes, it's huge. Thanks, Latino. We know it has a hundred aircraft onboard and even its own church.

But man, I wish they, as you would just shut up because she's now been talking for like 20 minutes in this film. And you like her. You do. What's she do? Yeah.

Give me a break. Once off the bus, the Tigers are sent to the forward bow. Which is just the bow.

“I love how part of this you can tell is written by somebody who doesn't know the boats.”

So they're sent to the bow, which is in the front. To see their family members, and Maddie has taken to watching after Joey. After reuniting Kenny rushes in, eager to hug his little brother. But Anthony barely reacts dodging the embrace and keeping his distance. It's obvious that he does not want to be there.

Another serviceman, Danny, meets up with his dad and elder tiger named Chuck, who quickly reminds his son that he's due for a promotion, especially with an uncle who works in the pentagon. The USS constellation has been deployed in the Gulf for six months. So this five day cruise to San Diego is a great opportunity for family members to check in. Tina finds her sister Grace and the excitedly embrace and also dance and Grace was a bad and so cool in this movie.

Yeah. So I mentioned this up at the top, but this is truly by this point. I thought it was a mistake how bad the green screen was.

We've never seen green screen this bad in a decomm.

Have we? No. I mean, the people, they were fuzzy. You can see, yeah, is that what you mean? Yeah, you can see the coloration.

Yes, it was like superimposed and people were bigger in the bad. I mean, it was bad. It was really bad. This is the CGI. It was pretty shocking because we had the CGI.

Sorry, green screen. It's not even CGI. No, no, it just was like it was pretty shocking. And also because such a big amount of it looked like they really were filming on a ship. It was kind of like, why?

What's the reason? So here's one of the things I was thinking, because I thought about this as it's watching the movie. When I would go on those submarines with my dad, when my dad would let me walk on boarder, the captain of that ship would take my dad and I on board. They would cover things on the ship.

Like you're not allowed to see this. This is classified. It's whatever it is, whether it's certain armaments or there's panels on the ship, which I'm sure had to do with whether it's radar systems or whatever. You civilians are not allowed to see this.

So I'm wondering if there's certain, I'm sure not wondering.

“There had to been parts of the ship, whether like you're not there.”

It can't film here. Yeah, you know, we give you as much access as possible, but there's certain things you're just, you can't set up a camera crew here. So I'm guessing there are certain parts of the ship, whether just like, but then it was like looking on the ship. Yeah, there was two.

They looked like they were like off of just like a balcony. Like it didn't look like they were necessarily like, I could understand the actors also it being unsafe for them to be around like the actual planes or what were they? Well, I guess playing the jet.

Yeah, there we go. Like in front of them, like there was, like also a safety issue type thing, but like there were things where it looked like it was just like ocean in the background. Yeah, the only other thing I thought was size. Like again, like if you're in his office,

for instance, they do a lot of scenes in his office, which are clearly green screen. That might be such a small area on the actual ship that they couldn't get a camera around to do the angles that they needed. Yeah. So maybe they needed to build it bigger on a sound stage to then shoot it as an actual scene. But I don't know, because they're man there, it was just it was bad.

They're clearly on a sound stage and it just didn't look good. Anyway, Joey does find his mom and they reunite in a very big way, just as Maddie's dad commander Gary Dolan arrives. He's happy to see her, but as second in command of the ship or the exo, he has some serious work to do.

They'll meet back up later. By the way, my dad was the same rank as the guy who runs the whole boat as the captain. Wow. Yeah, but a lawyer, so not quite on ships. I was in the Jack court, but that was his rank.

Cool. A Chuck, Danny's dad, who was in a Marine back in his day, has found his bunk or his rack.

“That's what they call it on the ocean, below Little Joey.”

Maddie arrives and realizes she's bunked with Chattie Tina, who is with her sister, talking about the importance of enlisting. We have a real odd couple here. One girl who absolutely loves the idea being there, and another who resents being an avi-brat.

And though this is dichotomy seems to be great on paper,

it's all kind of never mentioned again.

They announced the flight deck is open and Tina grabs her new friend to check it out. And now we are no longer dependent on that brutal green screen, where I top the aircraft carriers surrounded by fighter planes. Family members are very excited to tour the base, except for Anthony, who already looks bored.

Maddie is an incredibly good artist, sketching the USS Arizona Memorial as they go by. On the captain's bridge, Maddie's dad is hard at work, ready to start the trek. They pull the anchor and start the engine,

and do whatever else ships need to do to depart. We get a small history lesson from Chuck, the dad, all about Pearl Harbor. He tells Maddie and Tina about the morning our country was attacked, and that 1100 crew members died in this very harbor.

“It is, quote, unquote, a date that will live in infamy as what he says.”

Service men and tigers together all salute the crash site as they pass. Now, let's see, planes take off in an air power show where rescue tactics are on full display. Also, there's a kids' rec room with tons of activity, including caricature drawings from Maddie.

I love that word caricature. We get a glimpse of the kitchen with hundreds of meals being prepped, with Danny's help, and on the mast deck, his dad Chuck is reliving his glory days in the service. Little Joe is just thrilled to be eating soft serve ice cream,

which they have this machine called the dog, which nobody knows why it's called that, but it's just 24-hour soft serve, and Maddie and Tina are getting to know each other a little bit better, Morris friends.

Maddie says she's never thought about joining the Navy,

because some days she'd like to have kids who aren't quote-unquote brats, but then a cute, lieutenant named Tom arrives to alert Maddie that her dad can now see her, and then Tina flirt with him.

She loves a man named Neoniform, which is fine. I get the younger kids seeing the older guy kind of flirting. But the way he looked back, creeped the hell out of him.

And I was like, "John, please tell me, this is not going to be part of the story." Am I wrong? Wasn't that just that never happened again? Like you said, at first it's like, "Oh, cute.

Yeah, of course." Like a little guy uniform, whatever. But then he, it's like, "Oh, oh, oh, sorry." He like lingered in smile. And I was like, "Dude, what?"

She was like 14. Okay. Okay. Super weird. I did the same thing.

Super weird. So yeah, I'm glad that didn't happen, and I'm sure it was just to take they used, but they used a weird take where it looked like this was going to go somewhere, and I was like, "Wait, wait a minute."

What is happening? So thank God, that was the only time that happened. Super weird. Tina joins Maddie on the command deck to visit the commander, and oddly, there is no introduction to the girl now glued

to his daughter's side. Instead, Tina just goes off with Hot Tom. We enter another really bad green screen with Maddie being shown her dad's command station, where he normally can be found.

They catch up, but it's obvious he doesn't know much about his daughter. She makes him feel guilty about how many times they had to move, and the fact that she went to five different elementary schools.

"Well, let's just say very awkward."

He knows her relationship is strange,

“so he wonders why she finally volunteered to join the tiger cruise.”

Before she can answer, there's an announcement about a paper airplane contest, and Maddie screws off, and in her rush, she left behind her sketchbook. Now, over at this paper airplane festival,

it is all out chaos. Kids trying to catch 'em, fly 'em, compete with 'em, and yet Anthony is still bored, sitting by himself. He decides to walk off an zone and bumps into a no-hats area. Guys like, dude, you can't wear your hat out there,

and it just aggravates me even more. Seems like he has a big chip on a shoulder. He ignores the warning, and once outside, immediately, of course loses his hat to the wind. That'll show 'em.

There's a reason we have rules, sir. And boy, just when you think you've seen the worst green screening, we're outside with Maddie and Tina, who spot the hatless Anthony dancing around with the hard guss of wind, and I was like,

"What is happening?" He's having a lot of fun, but it's dangerous, and he's like getting closer to the edge. It's unhinged, and then he trips,

and rolls off the aircraft area.

The girls sprint after him, screaming for help. They assume he's falling into the ocean, but when they peer over the edge, they see that he's been caught by a safety net, which is like two feet wide.

This is not like he could have jumped ten feet and still hit the net. No. One more roll, and that guy's dead. Yes, yes.

And when you've been on any kind of ship, like I said, I've been on cruise ships. When you go to the edge of a cruise ship, and you're so high up from the water, all you can think of is, this is dangerous.

That's so dangerous, and I'm like, "Oh, my gosh, where was the railing like what?" Dude, well, it's 'cause most of the soldiers know not to jump up and let the wind jack it, like you're in a wing suit,

take you off the back of the boat. Oh, so dangerous. He thought it was cool, of course,

“which, hey, that's what we do, and more kids.”

We do stupid, and then like, hey, look at that. Now later in the day, the kids are playing Fusball and table hockey in the game room, when Maddie's dad spots her looking out over the sunset. He returns her sketchbook,

and was very impressed with her skills. Seeing a drawing of their dog made him miss home, and I swear to God, my head went, when he's like, "Oh, man, I missed that much. I thought she was going to be like, he's dead."

Like, we, and you know that 'cause you're not home. It's where my head runs, but he's about to say it. She's about to say, like, we had to put the dog down, and you don't know. You know why?

Because we know this is a true story about an actual, very sad. Like, we are ready for it. We're prepared to be sad, yes. And I was, I was like, that's what she's going to say.

I had that face on. When he left, I thought, "Oh, my God, he just got sucked under the thing. We're starting this off with the kid. Oh, yeah, it's awful.

We're ready to be happy. We're ready to be happy. We're ready to be happy. We're ready to be happy. We're ready to be happy.

It's good to hit and to be happy. And to be happy. And to be happy. And to be happy. That everyone's up for grabs.

Yeah, but God, I thought that's where she was going to go. He's like, I'm sorry. I didn't know that. But then, yeah, oh, thank God. Oh, geez.

I know. She very emotionally asked him when he'll be home for good. And he explains that this is his job. Now, I imagine, again, I say my dad was in the Navy. He was in the reserve.

He did have to go for the first golf war. He was stationed in Italy for a while. But we never had to move around or do any of that stuff. And I know it can be a-- or I've heard from other brats. And I don't say other.

I'm not a Navy brat by any stretch. But heard from Navy brats on those bases. How difficult it is, where it's you're moving all the time. You have no connections.

The second thing you always heard was the second you made a friend.

You're pulled out. And I just kept hearing that over and over again. So I've heard this could be difficult. Yeah. And it's, like, it's put on display on, like, TV shows of the same thing.

“That's why a lot of them, you are shown their characters that are Navy brats,”

quote unquote, are very distant. They don't like to make friends because it's just, there's no point. Because the second you made to money, you're making it. Yep. Oh, so hard.

Tough luck. Tough luck. Yeah. Were you a Navy brat Lisa? Air force.

Air force. So same thing. How many bases did you go to when you were growing up? Oh, man. Oh, man.

Wow. Yeah. So hard. That's, yeah. It's got to be very, very difficult.

I couldn't, I couldn't imagine. Um, three elementary schools, three middle schools and two high schools. Three middle schools, middle schools like two or three years. Oh, yeah. That's tough.

That is tough. And but it makes sense why you loved then things like Disney. And because those are, those are constants wherever you go. Staples. Yep.

So that makes TV was your friend. Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah, because you can take that with you anywhere you go. Yeah.

Very tough life. I've been, I've been told. So she obviously begs him to take a different job. But he explains that the Navy is his way of life. And it comes with many, many sacrifices.

Maddie argues that he's defending strangers. And she's been made fun of at school for being quote unquote the new Navy brat. He says after Friday he'll be home for a while. But she wants something permanent. The commander admits he doesn't know what to think.

It's now day two at sea September 10th, 2001.

“We're thrown right into the kitchen to witness the intense amount of cooking needed to feed the ship.”

15,000 meals every day. And Danny is one of the hardworking cooks. His dad Chuck is observing. And again, pitching that his uncle in the Pentagon can get his son a promotion. But Danny likes his job.

So back off, dad. Meanwhile, Joey has become addicted to the soft served machine. Which again, he realizes why they call the dog. Because it just looks like dog poop. But he thinks the Maddie and Tina are learning about the fighter planes from grace.

But are relegated to a faraway observation deck for when they take off. And this of course makes Tina mad because she loves the military and wants a real experience. But her sister isn't having it. It's not safe.

And these are the reason there are rules like this on a ship.

But Maddie thinks maybe her dad can get them even closer. So at the flight deck control center commander Gary is showing off a large map to the kids. Dealing with Anthony's disinterest and explaining the importance of the ship. Eventually the girls arrive and ask if they can be on the flight deck for the take-offs. But even Gary calls it too dangerous.

And there are no exceptions. That is strike three. But guess who does have an idea. Anthony, that little. The one that almost died.

Let's go with his life. Let's go with his life. Let's go with that guy. Let's go with that guy.

“Let's see where that guy is going to take us.”

Yeah. That guy seems to know what's up. And so as the air show is starting Anthony sneaks the girls to a hidden clearly not safe area on the deck. After getting dressed up like they belong there which is like a double yikes. The planes perform some impressive water bombings and flybys and other cool things that Tom Cruise doesn't top gone.

Anthony, Maddie, and Tina are in full flight attire right there in the runway. Tina is feverishly taking photos. But Maddie knows this is not a great idea. And then the kids are spotted by a soldier. So they sprint off and hide below deck.

And right when we think the coast is clear, they of course get caught. Now in the captain's quarters accompanied by their family members, they're being reprimanded and have been given a very final warning. If they fall out of line again, they will be confined to their rooms for the rest of the trip. Maddie's dad doesn't know how to discipline his daughter because he thinks this was just a way to get his attention. He lost a pilot seven weeks ago during a practice maneuver and they could have lost her and other people today.

This is not a game. Anthony's brother is even angrier. He says it was his idea for the tiger's cruise and now he regrets it. He demands his little brother stay out of trouble for the rest of the trip, but the relationship is more on the rocks than ever and rightfully.

So it is now time for the tiger cruise talent show. And I'd like to point out we're an hour in and there's still no 9/11 there. Really building it up. And you're just kind of on edge waiting for it to happen. Some officers are kind of doing hip hop dance moves for the tigers and Anthony apologizes to Tina and Maddie for getting in them to trouble.

So at least he knows that he did bad. But they all take the blame and Maddie admits her dad's response was more disappointed than angry. And that kind of hurt her more than being yelled at.

“I think as kids we all know what that means.”

Small note, Joey is still eating ice cream and making himself sick. Later that day Maddie is checking out a crew photo taken for New Year's Eve on Y2K and realizing that her dad was having a blast with his work family. His real family was in a cheap motel at the same time that hurts. The hot Lieutenant Tom just keeps popping up.

He just keeps hot Tom keeps popping in. And keeps reminding her that these cruisers are lonely and dangerous. And her dad makes them bearable because he's actually quote unquote like a father to the soldiers, which absolutely the wrong thing to say to his actual daughter. Read the room hot team.

Come on, that was just like outish. I mean I felt for her on this moment too. He was really being Tom deaf. Huh? Huh?

I will show myself out. But yes, you see you later. You take her from here. I'm not everybody. My job.

But yes, it's true. But the guilt still sends her back to her dad's command center. She apologizes for earlier and he explains it's all behind them now. But many of the things she said when she was angry are actually true.

He knows he's basically a stranger who's missed out on much of her life.

If he could, he'd go back in time to catch up. But he's in line to take over his own ship soon to think he's worked his entire life for. And if you know anything about the military being in the command of a ship that's eyes, it's, there's like 10 people that do that in the military. 20 people that do, it's impossible.

And something you do work from the time you're like 17 to do. So yeah, this is a massively big step for him for the exo to become the CEO. It takes 30 years. I mean, it's like, yeah, it's huge. Okay.

I can't imagine what it would be to be a family man as well. Oh, it's got a pretty good job. Brutal. Brutal.

So he's not going to re-up.

He's coming home for good.

“He had a long talk of his wife the night before.”

And that's when he was like, okay. So he would have known if the dog was dead. So he talks to his wife all the time. So long talk with her. He's going to be coming home for good.

Maddie is of course thrilled in praising him in yet another terrible green screen shot. But now the Cairo on reads it's September 11, 2001. Day three at sea. And I assume those smiles are going to fade very soon. Maddie is a welcome by a loud ship alarm at 515 in the morning.

Plains are taking off and soldiers are running to their stations. Maddie sees her dad in the hall in full emergency mode. She sees Tina Sister, who's also too busy to respond.

“The control room is packed and working at full tilt with commander Gary at the helm.”

And that's when the second plane hits the tower.

And you just, if you were there, watched it anything, it brings you right back. We see our first footage of 9/11 in the nearby TV. And Gary knows he has to inform the tigers of what's going on. Back in the bunk, Maddie wakes up Tina, just as all the tigers are asked to report to the folks. So all the kids and Chuck the dad, they feverishly pour out of the barracks.

They know it's some sort of an emergency. The commander knows that the family members will be reaching out to make sure the ship and their tigers are safe. But the USS constellation is in a holding pattern. They don't know if they're staying in the United States or if they'll be sent on a mission. They have to get ready for battle at any moment, which is hard to do with 800 civilians on board.

It is unprecedented in the history of the Navy apparently. Crazy. The tigers have all congregated together and Maddie attempts to young Joe who's totally freaking out rightfully. So Maddie's dad speaks to the tigers asking them to react as calmly as possible. He announces the airline hijackings and says the nation is on full alert.

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“Remember, so you said you were a senior, what a senior in high school? Do you remember where you were when you heard?”

I was coming down the stairs when my parents were in our family room downstairs, and they never are.

They're always walking around getting ready to head out, and they were just in shock and watching the TV and the TV's never on. But they were watching the news, and that was the first tower had been hit, and then it was like, oh my gosh, and so I still went to school. When into school, my first period happened to be my government slash Econ, and that the TVs were out. You know, the TV was out. We were just watching again, so actually we watched the second tower get hit, wall in class. And it was just like everyone looking around going. What's the hell? Yeah.

And again, being young still never ever thinking our country could be under attack like this. Like who would do that? Like you know what I mean? Like it was so unbelievable that, you know, it was a very scary moment. Like, oh my gosh, and then it was like, what is next? And so being in that government class, it was like, there's options. Now that these are, and so it was a very like open talk. It wasn't obviously not planned anything like that. And I feel really lucky to have such a great teacher to like he handled all of our questions really well and gave us very honest answers.

You know, so he had done some time in the military and was just like, there are big changes that are going to happen. And you guys are, you know, this is this is something that's going to be the same.

Yeah, it's never going to be the same again. Like, and he called it to flying will not be the same going to the airport. Nothing like that will ever be the way you guys have lived your life so far.

“And it was like, oh, you know, it just, it was such a heavy day. Where were you? Where was home?”

I wrote here in LA. I was out here in LA. No, it was out in LA. And I was living my brother at the time and he woke up a lot earlier than I did. And he, so he woke me up early early, 530 in the morning, whatever it was. And said, you know, a plane crashed into the World Trade Center. I think we might be under attack. And so we were then up and watching the TV as the second plane hit. And then as the second plane hit, we both knew we were like, oh, this is this is a coordinated attack. And so it was, and then you just sit there at numb for the rest of the day. You also know, so my generation, we all remember where we were when the Challenger exploded.

Because that was our moment of either you're in school or you were watching with other kids, because they literally would wield a wield a TV in because Christa McCalliff was the first a teacher that was going into space. So it was supposed to be a teaching moment. So we're all sitting there as kids. I was actually home sick that day, but my brother and I were watching was such a big thing. So everybody watched this live and everybody remembers where they were at that time. And I instantly knew like, oh, for this generation, that's this.

Yeah, everybody's going to remember, but the kids, the kids that are at 86 when when Christmas McCalliff died and the all seven astronauts died, of course, I was 10. And so I knew I was like, oh, this is that's this for this generation. And for the generation before that it was one Kennedy was killed.

So yeah, while the commander announces everything he knows soldiers, crew members and the kids, especially Maddie, everybody, of course, tears up and starts to cry. He assures everyone they'll be safe, but his speeches interrupted by news that the Pentagon was also hit.

He runs off to attend to this new development leaving his daughter behind, of course, very scared.

In the kitchen, Danny sees the new lead destroyed Pentagon wing. His dad runs in. He can't believe that this ship may be going into battle.

“And his son is stuck making cookies. Danny defenses job again, but when loss of life is confirmed at the Pentagon, Chuck realizes his brother may actually be gone.”

Maddie is still watching the day unfold on TV when our dad finds out about the fourth downplane in Pennsylvania, and that the White House has been evacuated. Anthony is also watching coverage of the destruction, terrified that his hometown of New York is under attack. Chuck the dad is ready to bomb whoever he thinks is responsible, even without any evidence. But mostly he wants to know if his brother is safe at the Pentagon, but all communication to and from the ship is suspended until further notice.

Chuck, get you do. You apparently you isolate yourself. You are a moving island. You are completely isolated. The only thing coming in his messages. That's it from from the higher up. That's it. No messages out. My girlfriend is just she just married someone in the Navy and is now going through the process of understanding what is life. Yes, he just got to play for 10 months and it's like there's going to be times where I won't talk to him for like weeks. I'm like, oh my. When Jordan goes on like a work trip and I don't hear it from him for like three hours. I'm freaking out like I'm like what happened. You haven't responded to a text and I was eating and I'm like.

I can't imagine how hard it is for these families. I kept thinking over and over during this movie. It's one of those things where yes you fall in love with a person and you're marrying a person, but you're also marrying a lifestyle. And it is a complete change of lifestyle. This is going to be like unless you've experienced it. It's like which I have not to this extent in any way unless you've experienced it. You don't know what's up. I mean, Lisa would be able to tell us. You don't know what it's like unless you're right.

The more you find out about it for me and and I hope everyone else, the more you have so much appreciation for the people that do take this on as a job. Oh my goodness, we are so lucky because it is huge sacrifices.

“They're doing this so we can be free and safe. That's why they're doing this and they're it's insane.”

That's why whenever I hear anybody bash in the military, I'm like you don't know. You do not know what these men and women go through. So yeah, it's there. It's a whole lifestyle that is one that thank God they're there. That's all I can say. Yes. So Chuck gets loud. He needs to check on his brother. But Commander Gary gives him a final no and orders him to stand down with all the tiger activities canceled. He also minimizes the news coverage on the TVs. So kids can watch movies instead smart. He makes Maddie the liaison for the young tigers since he needs to keep updated on what he should be doing to keep everyone calm.

Maddie is willing and ready to help, but Chuck will not give up about this one phone call. His brother was in the wing that was hit by the plane. He's completely breaking down. Maddie's dad gets his brother's name and rank. He let Chuck know if he hears anything. Back with the tigers, Maddie knows the scene is bleak. Some kids are obviously crying and there's also boredom now mixed with fear. She quickly takes the lead and hugs the kids who need comforting. Commander Gary has told that all air traffic has been suspended. So even if he could get the 800 civilians back to San Diego, he couldn't get him home anyway.

He asked Maddie to get all the kids to go to bed, but she tells them they're scared and they want to stay together in the mess hall.

He appreciates her advice and gives him another half hour, and it looks like they're finally on the same page and working together.

“Before he leaves though, she wants to know one thing. Is there anything he's not telling them?”

He says he doesn't know a lot of the facts, just so they must stay ready. She admits she scared and starts crying herself. He holds her and tells her it's going to be fine, and before she can fully break down, she's called back by one little kid. She wipes her tears and gets back to her job, and it was a nice little moment. It's now September 12th, day four, and they're just 500 miles from San Diego. The ship is planning on rearming in two hours, and the civilians must be below deck for the procedure.

Maddie is back in the mess hall with the kids, and she's drawing Anthony who's still captivated by the footage. You can't look away. Other kids are angry that he's hogging the TV. They just want to watch a movie. Maddie steps in and agrees the kids should watch a movie. Anthony storms off to the kitchen. Maddie eventually joins him at a new TV to give him a drawing. He says he's watching the coverage because he's from Staten Island. He saw the towers every day and his friends, parents, worked in those buildings. He's also worried about his grandfather.

He never thought the towers could just disappear. Life will be different from now on.

Out at sea and escort boat arrives with weapons and Chuck notices that the liver and Chuck notices the delivery. The tigers are taken below deck to basically avoid seeing warheads, but Chuck tells the older tigers what he saw and scares everyone into believing they're all on their way to war.

Commander Gary tells Maddie they're on course to arrive in San Diego a day early, but they have to slip into the port on announce because they're whereabouts are secret. So it won't be easy. Also, there won't be anyone there to meet them since the base is on lockdown. And then the worst news. He won't be returning home after all. He's returning to see because of what happens is crew counts on him. He promises he will be home but for now he has a duty to complete. She kind of understands at this point, but still isn't happy about it.

Chuck in Danny arrived to see if there's any news out of the Pentagon. Gary lets Chuck know his brother is missing, which of course is not a good sign. Chuck hugs his son and they start to cry together. Maddie joins Chuck out of the deck to say she's sorry about his little brother. He thought the Pentagon was the safest place on earth. It makes him wonder what life will be like back on land. He asked Maddie to apologize to the commander for him. Her dad does a job that not many people would do and Chuck would be too and Chuck was being too aggressive with him earlier.

“But the truth is he feels safer with the commander on duty. Later on Maddie is still looking out at sea. Now drawing a distinguished portrait of her dad.”

She decides to take a to him walking into the still buzzing control room, but there's Lieutenant Hockdom who cuts her off. It's not a good time, but the Tigers will be in San Diego soon. He complements her dad. He complements her dad. He didn't.

He complements her dad on the incredible job on making all of this happen. She says she'll get him the drawing later and leave.

Okay, I'm sorry. I want to rewrite this. He complements her dad on the amazing job he did trying to get all the civilians home when nothing is essentially running in the country. She says she'll get him the drawing later and she leaves him to do his work. In the kitchen, Maddie, Anthony, Tina and Joey visit Danny who's making cookies. Well, and actually tons of muffins as you can tell. He's keeping busy so it doesn't have to think about his uncle. The Tigers all help him out.

Anthony finally gets to play some drums and this is when we're all thinking about Sabrina who knows that we don't like when they just start tapping on things and then a band forms.

This one was better than them. They were all doing different hodgepodge things. It wasn't like they made this amazing song and became a band because it's still not okay.

No, it wasn't. And I was just so happy that it was so short lived. Thank God. Because I'm going, oh God, we are going to do this. We're going to go into sing song format like they didn't go, but just a man and just was something. We'll get into it with Sabrina sees. Okay, not your favorite. We know not your favorite. I started to watch. I was like, uh, I know. So they're banging on pots and pans. Eventually everyone joins in. They find some fun and laughs during a very dark time. Matty realizes there must be something everyone on board can do to lighten the mood. And now it's September 13th, day five and they're right off the coast of San Diego.

Matty signals that Matty knows that all the tiger activities were canceled, but she tells the captain she has an idea. And with that, everyone in the ship walks out to a humongous flag that takes up the entire aircraft to a humongous flag that takes up the entire aircraft carrier and they unfurl it for display once laid out the kids run under it and play tag. Commander Gary watches on proud of his daughter's leadership. They arrive in San Diego and the commander speaks to everyone before they touch the ground.

He talks about the core values of the Navy and how each of the tigers have also shown that type of courage and selflessness over the past few days.

“He calls their actions exemplary and mentions the unfurling of the flag as an important moment for the crew.”

Now on land, Chuck and Danny say they're goodbyes, Danny's been given time off to deal with his uncle's death, but he decides to stay with the crew and make sure they're fed. Chuck has finally really proud of them saying sailors got to eat. Our main tigers exchange phone numbers, they plan on keeping in touch, they'll need to stay with military families on base until their relatives are allowed to come and get them. Joey says goodbye to his mom and it's still scared, they decide to get some ice cream before she has to return to the ship.

Anthony says goodbye to his brother, finally showing some love thanking him for everything, Tina Salute's grace and they also exchange one last hug.

And finally, Maddie gives her dad the portrait, he loves it and says he'll frame it when he gets home. She scared what if something else happens, what if they have to go to war, he promises they'll be ready, but it mits everything is different now. He says he remembers his promise to return home, but now Maddie doesn't want him to quit. She thinks he should stay, she'll be okay. He gives her one last hug and asks her to stop growing so fast, and with that, he returns to the ship, a passing soldier asks if the commander is her dad and wonders if she's a brat.

Before answering, she salutes her dad, then proudly says, "Yup, I'm a brat." She smiles and we see the huge flag unfurled one more time, and that is our movie.

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And I think, I think this week, I have the one star. And this is from Nick the Trojan.

“The only thing funnier than this obvious propaganda, which makes up the bulk of the film,”

is the fact that the Disney-watching American public bought it hook line and sinker, the film is a real dog, although I do leave it with the disconcerting urge to unfurl an enormous flag on my way to the recruitment office. One star from Nick, which is the new official name.

I've got the five star this week, and it's M-D-W-O-B-D.

What up, but I think it's a bit of a thing. Let's make a doctor wode, Pada. Okay, doctor, Pada, Pada. Here you go. All right, not bad.

“Remind me about 9/11, which is good because I was told to never forget it.”

I can. Five stars. Wow, I just can't do it. And now we have Sabrina's favorite portion of our program, which is our game that we play.

Feature game. Every week, and this one is called, "Pull Rank." To honor the brave Navy scene in the film and making sacrifices every day for our country, we will be given different ranks. We're tasked with putting them in order if we can correctly place them low as to highest we win.

Here's how I'm going to make it even worse for you Sabrina. Great, thanks, because this isn't going to be hard enough. I'm not going to play because I know the answers. Yes, you know the answer. So, here's the list.

And we're going to see if you can put them in order. Who are we playing with today? I mean, I can do it, but I'd like to make sure I'm right. Who are we playing with today? It's my Kayla.

All right, my Kayla, here we go.

So, Commander, Patty Officer First Class,

“War and Officer Fourth Class, Vice Admiral, Chief Patty Officer, and Captain.”

What do you got? What do you think? Let's start low to high. Low to high. Low to high.

What's the lowest rank on that list? Commander, Patty Officer First Class, War and Officer Fourth, Vice Admiral, Chief Patty Officer, or Captain? What's the lowest? They all sound so like...

I don't think recalls the name, but like some very cool best. Yes, they all sound so like, wow. So, what do you think's the lowest? I guess I'm going to go with Patty Officer First Class, would be the lowest.

Okay, what is the, Michaela, is that correct? That's correct, yeah. That is correct. Okay, okay. What is the next one?

What is the next one? Chief Patty Officer, then. That is correct. What would be third? War and Officer Four.

Correct. What would be fifth? Captain. Not correct. What would be fifth?

Vice Admiral. What would be fifth? Commander. Correct. You're killing it.

I can't kill you. Four would be sixth.

“Well, now I don't know which one of them.”

You have Vice Admiral Captain left. Okay. I think it'd be Vice Admiral. What would be sixth? Is this the top one?

Nope. No. I'm still got to get six. Six is kept in correct. Okay.

And not this is Vice Admiral. All right. You did it. Without a single mistake. You got them all as far as I'm concerned about.

And your prize for winning is a Sabrina C's. What do we got? All right. There we go. Okay.

So really all I had to say,

as far as nitpicking this apart, the green screen was just it never.

It was continuously just jarring the whole movie. I just couldn't couldn't take it. There was one part where it felt like there was a scene that was put in like out of order. Like they read did it during like editing it for some reason. And it was she starts off in this yellow top.

And then there's a scene where she's like drawing caricatures of the like little kids. And then she ends up back in that yellow top. So it seems like that was. Filmed but like not really meant to be where it was placed. It was like out of order.

Like she's just kind of drawing these characters. And I'm like, I wonder if it was later on in the movie part of the original. Filming would have been it would have made sense for it to be during the time where they're kind of trying to keep the kids busy and like off the TV like after everything it happened.

I don't know because they seem very very happy. Yeah, they were happy in the evening. I don't know it was just strange for her to be for it to be where it was. It was kind of throwing me off. The 90 or the 2000s hair that was in this movie was pretty epic.

I felt very well done. And then I had two things that I felt like there was zero reason to have in this movie. The talent show? Why? Yeah, I think it was probably just to show what actually happened during these tiger cruises.

And talent show is one of them. It's like, hey, let's get the who. Who's everybody who knows how to break dance. Oh, that would be like we're going to be entertaining. We're going to be entertaining the guests here.

I'll bet you that's exactly what it is they say to everybody on the all the the crew members on the ship. We hate the tiger crews. We're going to have eight hundred kids. Let's do your juggle. Yeah, exactly who can juggle who can sing.

“Let's do because I think you're you're on an island with 5,000 people.”

Sometimes for months at a time. So I will bet you stuff like dance parties and and you know comedy shows. Yeah. Let's do I will bet you like who can you stand up who wants to do five minutes. I will bet you that happens.

I will guarantee it. Oh, wow. Okay, all right. Well, then I stay corrected. This one I do not.

There was absolutely no reason to be doing some banging and popping and all the stuff on the pots and the pans. It didn't need to happen. It made me feel like we were about to jump into a random. I mean, after seeing the random talent show. I'm like, oh, god, now we're going to just jump into some random music situation.

I get it. I get it. But it was an idea of like the kids laughing and them saying, like, this is the first time I've actually laughed. And I do remember it going back to even though I was so separated from what was happening. I didn't have anyone that even lived in New York.

I'd never been in New York at that point.

You know, if my life like there was just this moment where I feel like we were all kind of just like holding our breath for so long. And then not long after, you know, when the time came to feel like happiness again was so far, you know, from the devastation that you just felt like our entire country was going through. So it was somewhat as although I know our listeners know how much I hate that kind of stuff. It was kind of ended up being like a nice moment because it was like these kids that were scared.

I'll scare you would be to be on this ship, right? Like going for for the crew to like thinking about even just what we saw so much. We were in the kitchen in this movie so often and it being like, how are we how long are we going to have these extra 800 people on the ship with us? How long do we have enough supplies for them to feed them as much as we're going to have to feed them for extra days or whatever. You know, just you also, I'm sure, didn't know it. Are we fully under attack? Is someone going to try to fly a plane into this?

“That's what I mean, right? You know, what like what is happening? Nobody knew anything going on.”

Yes, and especially to be a part of like none of us civilians didn't know, but to actually be on a ship of going. What is the next step where where is this going from here on out and just how again, how terrifying that that time of time. If you're kid, you're 9 or 10 and you see the adults freaking out and you might be like, does this mean we're going to war? Like if they're just going to turn the boat around and go off to fight somebody with us still on board, I mean, just you wouldn't know. You didn't have the idea to know, so it was, yeah, I can imagine.

Very scary time. Yeah, absolutely. Well, thank you. Did you have more? That was it. All right. Well, thank you very much.

We now come to the portion of our program where we score our film. And that's great. Great. Let's say radar film. We're going to do one out of ten.

One being the least unlike what we're going to do from petty officer first class two vice Admiral. So one out of ten.

Low to high. And here are our options for the week. You want to do one out of ten terrible green screens. One out of ten, Laura fries, one out of ten, Boba Fett costumes. One out ten, diarrhea mouths. Please don't pick that one. One out of ten, Anthony's in very small safety nets. Or one out of ten poop chocolates. Please don't pick that one either.

Which one you want? I'll leave it up to you. I guess we'll have to do terrible green screens. Because it was so prevalent in the movie. It was just a tapeting. It just got coming back and you wanted to forget it because you, you know, you wanted to forget it.

“I agree. I can't remember who which one of us goes first this week.”

Um, I actually feel like you went first for because our last one was back on the board. So I feel like you did go first, right? Or did I? It's back on board. You did it again. I gave you my thought. You could say it all the time. I gave you a case of the buzz.

And it's down. It's under, it's under. That's the under my Sabrina sees. I've got that right under and I've got written down.

The full name is Johnny Kappa Halla back on the board that never took off that you can't buy anywhere else because nobody does landboarding or whatever it's called.

Is the name is the name of that film. So then, okay, yeah, if you go first, take it away. All right. I liked this movie. Well, I, again, this was the first for me to see it.

And it was the first for me to feel like these, you know, real based on real stories. I was actually a part of understanding what was happening in the world at the time.

And it was something that I'm going, you know, when there's a right age to kind of talk to Monroe about this would be a great movie for her to see a little bit more knowledge.

You know, it doesn't go too far into it, but it goes into the eyes of a child going through a devastating situation. And scary, but it wasn't overly scary. I don't think it would frighten her. I think it would just give her a lot of empathy of like seeing what it would have been like had she been around during this time.

“So that's how I'm watching this movie now.”

As a mom and I really liked it. I thought it was a great Disney once again, did a great job showing us the eyes of a child going through a very hard situation. And I'm going to give it 9 terrible green screen. That's I like that. Which is hard.

It's terrible green screen. It's hard. 9 terrible green screen because there's probably at least 9 in this now. Oh, God, if not more. I agree with everything you said.

Look, I am unabashedly biased towards the Navy. I saw the pride my father had every time he put on his uniform. And how much it meant to him to defend his country. I grew up with that same pride in my country. Do we have problems?

Of course we have problems. I've talked about it before. This this country is an idea. But it's the best idea that's ever been here for the history of humans. And we're working on it.

And it's we're going to hate each other and we're going to love each other. And there are times where we hate each other so much. And then something like this day of 2001 happens. And we come together. And for a moment we all feel like we're in this together.

And we look at each other differently. And we act differently towards one another. And there's people out there now that disagree with you.

And are always going to disagree with you.

And it doesn't mean that your first response needs to be hatred towards them. The second we start we stop talking is the second you look for other ways to confront people. And if you stop using dialogue, you start using other things. And it's horrible. And it's days like this in the history of our country.

That remind us that we're all in this together. And we all want the same things no matter what you think we all want. I think it was Kennedy who said we all want to breathe clean air. We all want to drink fresh water. We all want our children to have better lives than us.

We all want the same things. Yes. We might disagree on how we get there. And that's what this country is about. Is electing people who agree with you.

And even if you disagree with the people that are elected,

“that's what the next election cycle is for.”

And that's how you speak. And that's what we need. And so again, I am totally biased for movies like this. What the men and women who put their lives on the line every day, for our freedom, for the things to do.

So I really enjoyed watching this movie. Maybe it was propaganda based.

People always say, after they watch Top Gun,

Oh, it's just recruiting fighter pilots, maybe. Maybe that's that's a side effect. It films like this is more people want to go and sacrifice for their country. And, you know, we saw the lives a little bit of the lives that these men and women live. And the families they have to give up to go and make sure we're all free.

And so that I'm down for that all the time. As a film, of course there are problems with it. The green screen is terrible. It's one of the worst green screens I've ever seen. And I just don't care because exactly what you said.

This is Disney doing what Disney does, which is taking a very difficult subject matter. Making it palatable and not too scary for children, while not completely watering down what actually happened. Selma Lord Selma, it wasn't, we're going to give you a cookie cutter version of what happened.

It was just what happened through the eyes of a child. And this to me is when Disney is at their best. Is when they do stuff like this. So I grew the 100% I'm the only reason I'm digging at the one point is because of the film problems. Which were glaring and there were a ton of them.

And there were times it was slightly slow. I get it. I don't care. So I, with you 100% where I gave this nine terrible green screens. It is, yeah, it is a great example of what Disney I really love does.

“It gives us an insight to a world that we would not necessarily know very much about, right?”

And being a family member of somebody who serves our country isn't something that everyone knows. You know, so it's a great way to open that question. Open that topic to ask questions to look into to research after you watch. I mean, I'm sure during this time like people that kids were starting to ask more questions. You saw on the interstitials of the the characters on Disney channel.

Opening the book.

I agree with you 100%. So just next time you're going to have a conversation with somebody that you know completely disagree with. You have two completely opposing views of whatever. Maybe have a ten minute conversation about something you agree with to start. Yeah.

It's a great place to begin even if it's, hey, you, you like vanilla ice cream. So do I start there and then maybe go from something you disagree with because, right? Again, we're all in this together, whether you like to think it or not. And one of the things that's going to keep us together is something like our next movie because it's a big one people.

Yes, we're finally doing it.

We're getting into something that to me sounds. Well, vaguely sexual. That's pretty cool. That's right. And might be the biggest one ever on the channel. And you're reaching 100% ready because you just said all in this together. Twice.

I didn't even realize it's all my first movie. Well, if you're in Newcastle, I'm just sitting there going. I can see. Okay, let it's just reaction.

“I didn't even realize I said it, but that's how perfect it is.”

It is. It's so perfect. We are watching what I just like to call HSM three people. That's right. High school, musical three.

I'm sweet or whatever the kids are saying. Now there's words that I don't understand. Ryder and then you'll try to take me. Yes. I don't know.

But you can watch Disney's now. Michaela and Lisa are now saying we've taken over my brain. I think that's true. You are in it officially. Yes.

You can watch it early and prep for the recap because it's available to stream now on Disney Plus. Of course. Of course.

First, before we get there, we're going to dive into a very vital component of the

classic T-com formula. And that's the musical synergy.

“So many of these Disney films feature original songs, of course, perform by the actors in them or”

musician signed to the Disney label. And a major avenue to get to these songs was one of Sabrina's favorite things ever. Radio Disney. Yes. So cool.

I loved it myself. So we are maybe not to listen to, because I didn't listen to it. But I went on a bunch of times. It was. So we are going to be talking to Robin Jones, the Vice President of Programming at Radio Disney,

from what we like to call the Golden Years 1996 to 2007. She was instrumental in helping develop and break high school musical. So yeah. Obviously, it was pretty awesome. We heard some great stories for her.

Here's a little taste of what's to come. He said, I got this girl and he showed me her headshot or something. And he said, I promise you, you know, she's Billy Ray Cyrus's daughter. What are you kidding? And he said, I think I have something.

“So that was when we really started to get stuff in advance.”

And really, you know, understand how we could work together. Man, that was cool. The only problem with the interview is she said some things that Sabrina is going to walk away. Just like, oh, so I basically started the whole channel. Yeah.

Yeah, it seems to bring us a little more instrumental in some stuff than I even realize. But it makes perfect sense because Cheetah girls kind of change all ballgame. So you are going to love that interview. And you know, we really love getting kind of the deeper behind the scene stuff. And she was there for all of it.

So make sure to check out the park opera episode later this week on magical rewind dedicated feed. And for more info, of course, you can follow us at magical rewind pod on the Instagram machine. Bye everybody. Bye. Hey, I'm Wilmer of Alderama.

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then your misses, the epiphanys, the moments to change our lives forever. This season, we're deepening our relationships, creating collaborations.

And the door always says open for a third of me go to pull up a chair.

Listen to those amigos on the iHAR radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Hola, I'm Christian Chavez, host of the new podcast in Swedala. In each episode, I try to just something radically simple. To be a hard-to-hard connection with my guest. I talk with people who have shaped me and inspired me.

Like it in the river, muddy and primers, or might the better. You'll hear conversations about fashion, relationships, HIV, as well as inspiring stories from the LGBTQ+ community. And so much more. Listen to Swedala on iHAR radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

On the Stino Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor.

Transformation in the power of second chances.

“The entire season two is now available to bench,”

featuring powerful conversations with the guest like Tiffany Addis,

Johnny Knoxville, and more. I'm an alcohol, and I'll just prove I'm a died. Listen to Stino Show on the iHAR radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman CEO of iHAR Media,

“and I'm kicking off a brand new season of my podcast,”

Math and Magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing.

Math and Magic takes you behind the scenes of the biggest businesses and industries while sharing insights from the smartest minds of marketing. Coming up this season on Math and Magic, CEO of Liquid Death, Mike Siserio. People think that creative ideas are like these lightball moments that happen when you're in the shower.

Or it's really like a stone sculpture.

“You're constantly just chipping away and refining.”

Take two interactive CEO, Strauss Selling. And our own cheap business officer, Lisa coffee. Listen to Math and Magic on the iHAR radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Saturday, May 2nd, countries, biggest stars,

will be in Austin, Texas. At hour 2026, I've hard country festival presented by Capital One. See you came, Brad. Parker McCollum. Riley Green.

Riley Green. This girl's your boozy. Dylan Scott. Russell Dickerset. [MUSIC]

This is an iHAR podcast. guaranteed human.