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Pam Bond is out. And we're going to talk about why Trump fired her and who might replace her. We're also going to dig into Trump's prime time address on the war. He doesn't seem to know how to get out of as well as a common he made and what he thought was a closed door events that could end up in every Democratic at this fall. We'll also cover the Supreme Court hearing on Trump's executive order to end birthright citizenship. His new executive order to take control of voting from the states,

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one of the few independent, proudly pro-democracy media outlets left in Trump's America. So head to Kirk at dot com slash friends and subscribe. Alright Dan, as forgettable as it may have been, the president did just deliver a prime time address to the nation on Wednesday about Operation Epic Fury. The war in Iran, he got us into that has now dragged on for more than a month. The 19 minute speech contained no news, no exit strategy and no coherent rationale or even

coherent sentences to explain why 50,000 American troops are still deployed in a conflict that has already cost us tens of billions of dollars and sent gas prices through the roof. Other than that, fine showing by Donald Trump. Here are the highlights. We're now totally independent of the Middle East and yet we are there to help. We don't have to be there. We don't need their oil. We don't need anything they have with their

to help our allies. America is plenty of gas. We have so much gas. The countries of the world that do receive oil through the hormone straight must take care of that passage. They must cherish it. They must grab it and cherish it. They can do it easily. In any event, when this conflict is over, the straight will open up naturally. It will just open up naturally. We've done all of it. Their navy is gone. Their air force is gone. Their missiles are just about

used up or beaten. There's never been anything like it militarily. Everyone is talking about it

and tonight. I'm pleased to say that these core strategic objectives are nearing completion for the next two to three weeks. We're going to bring them back to the snownages where they belong. In the meantime discussions are ongoing. There's no deal. We are going to hit each and every one of their electric generating plants. Very hard and probably simultaneously. We have not hit their oil, even though that's the easiest target of all. But we could hit

it and it would be gone and there's not a thing they could do about it. The whole world is watching and they just can't believe what they're seeing. They leave it to your imagination, but they can't believe what they're seeing. That is very true. Don't really where to begin there. Some good highlights, right? Some where I says it all right there to open naturally, but you've got to grab, you've got to grab, grab the straight-a-formus. I already made the joke in my YouTube

rack with Ben, so I also will bond them to the Stone Age. But it goes, shoes are ongoing.

“I laughed out loud when I first heard that. I mean, because I think he, I think he probably”

adlibed a bit of the Stone Age thing from his truth, obviously, because he originally said. But I think in the season, the prompt are like, oh, but discussions are ongoing. I guess I'm supposed to talk about diplomacy. So your message box take on the speech, is that Trump declared victory, but admitted defeat. Say more about that. Sure. So I tried to treat the speech seriously, which was hard. I would say that. I did that too. Yeah. It was very different. But it is

the president of the United States addressing the nation at a time of war in economic chaos. So we should at least try to look at it from that point of seriousness. And so to the extent that Trump's speech had a message or a strategy, I believe it was to say the war was coming to an end into clear victory. Right. And he went through. He just said that we saw that in the clip. All of our strategic approach objectives that been met. He went, he went into into great detail

what we've destroyed, the Navy, the missiles, all of that. But at the end of the day, what he was really saying is the thing's going to wrap up in the next two to three weeks. And when we leave, however we leave, we are going to leave the same Iranian regime in place, although likely more anti-American radicalized than before, Iran will continue to have all of their nuclear material, which we all

basically monitor with like Google Maps, Google satellite. Yeah, but which we could look at it.

But we could have done before. Yeah. It's in the same place it was before. They still have it. And now, as a special bonus to Iran for just painting in this war, they get to treat the world's most strategic water passageway as a toll road, whatever they want. And so he is, he wants this war to be over. He knows this is bad for him. Politically knows it's bad for the economy. He's trying to declare victory when he's actually doing the simply waving the way flag a surrender.

“I think that's true. And I also, it explains the incoherent conflicting messages because he also”

can't, like, for the straight of four moves, he knows that we need the straight of four moves open. He, he understands at least the people around him understand that oil is a commodity. There's a global oil market just because we have a bunch of oil doesn't mean that we're not going

He can't plead with our allies to help reopen the straight of four moves because then he looks weak and he already pissed them off anyway by starting the war without consulting them and insulting

them basically every single day since. He has clearly decided that a U.S. military operation

to reopen the straight or to take control of the straight is too risky. So he's not doing that. But he also knows, like, he, so he doesn't know what to do. So basically he's going to say, we don't need it, but then he's now nagging Europe and other countries to reopen it for us. And saying, and like, making himself sound tough because he can't say the truth, which is, we're fucked. We have no idea how to open the straight of four moves and we're just going to

pretend that some other countries will open it that it'll or it'll open fucking naturally. And then we don't have to worry about anything. Yeah, there's just, it's go complete. And that's just one example of the many contradictory conflicting messages in that speed. Well, it's in the, the conflict is in the part we just mentioned where he will bond them to the Stone Age, but also we want to have diplomatic negotiations ongoing with their new president or

whoever he is, but he sort of made up in his head. It was a good ally. And again, it's like both

“both a threat and a negotiation require you to demand something. Yeah. What are we demanding?”

Because in that speech, we won. We bombed everything. We don't care about the straight of four moves. We don't care that the nuclear material is still in Iran. We don't care that the regime is still in place because it's a new regime according to Donald Trump. We've destroyed their military. So why are we threatening to bomb them into the Stone Age? And why are we continuing to hope that they will make a deal? What is the deal? Yeah, like he's trying to, nothing makes sense.

Yeah, it's totally logical. It's complete confusion. He also, by, like, is that even clear who he's speaking to when he says we don't need the straight of four moves. He is saying that to Iran, if you say you're to the American people, then that doesn't really matter because the price of oil is the price of oil. And so as they can, as they can see it going up while speaking. Yes, this is the price. And that, that to me is actually an incredibly important part of what this

speech says about where Trump is right now, which is he, like, he almost didn't just admit defeat

on the war. He's been in defeat on his entire second term here because what it really powered

Trump like he isn't past any loss, right? He, he, yeah, don't forget the big beautiful bill. I mean, he hasn't mentioned that in months. I hope he talks about it more on the way to the, what did I show you, but like, he is succeeded in implementing his agenda in the second term through the force of his words. He's threatening to joling universities, law firms, media companies. And here you have the president, the president, the president of the United States, in a national

television at wartime trying to send a message to not just America, people would also the markets. This thing is coming to an end. And they took the exact opposite approach. They did not believe what he was saying. They did not take him seriously. Oil went up. The stock market went down.

“So if his goal was, I believe, and it's hard to tell, but was to suggest that this is coming”

to an answer, everyone can chill out. And they took it because of the way he did it delivered this space speech. Because the way he's acted erratically over the last several months, not too much on that. So we years, they took the opposite approach. Like the world is tuning him out. Do you think like, why did they do this speech? I was wondering, I'm like, I get that he sounds like an idiot all the time when he's off the cuff and does this thing. He does the weave. And he has got all those, you know,

crazy ticks. But this was a prime time address that he was reading off the prompter. You imagine that some number of people in the White House, perhaps in the State Department, the Defense Department, other agencies took a look at the speech. And it just was like, I mean, the speech was all over the place. The written prepared speech was all over the place. What the fuck were they doing? It may be either bad at their jobs. Yeah. Well, I mean, you like you have it. You do have an erratic

stubborn president who is getting bad information. There was a report today that Susie Wiles has been telling other A's that they are that they are only giving Trump good information about the war. They're not being honest with him about what's happening militarily, economically. And so that's feeding his mentality. This communication team has no idea how to do serious stuff. Yeah.

“Like, if you want to do memes and attack people and quote tweet them, like, that's their game.”

And that can work in a campaign to a certain extent. But this is like serious shit. And they are un-serious people. And that is coming. It's like, so obvious to bear here. And I'm like, why do he do it? Because he's like, what, what makes him do it? They didn't, they haven't done it for a month. His approval rating is now under 40% in the Nate Silver Model. He is taking on water. His, you know,

he's been dropping for a while, you know, since basically for a year, since you're yesterday,

which is Liberation Day. But he has that drop has been more as been steeper since the war started.

problem. And they actually have, not really a political problem. They have a subset of problem.

Right. And I'm sure they're hearing from, because, you know, someone was talking to Steve Brandon before the speech. And he wasn't right on this. But he was like, yeah, the messages were going to wrap this up. It's over. Like, he's probably hearing from people in his base or his orbit that like, you got to, you got to communicate this thing almost over. Yeah. And we know this from, whenever we worked the White House whenever there was like bad political things.

It's a speech. Where's the speech? Yeah. Race speech for the straight-of-war moves. Remember the number of the oil spill? Or will you do that? You know, I was talking about roads about that, because I was like, that is a crazy crazy beach. I'm like, it does remind me of the oil spill

“speech by further for those of you who are too young. I don't remember that to this in 10.”

There was an oil spill on the Gulf of Mexico. And no one could figure out how to stop the oil

spill. The oil just kept coming out into the Gulf of Mexico. And every cable news channel in the corner of the, of the television, you could just see the oil coming out into the spilling out into the Gulf of Mexico all day long, 24 hours a day. And everyone was like, oh, Bob, you should fix it. You've got your, the president. Why haven't you fixed it? And the solution was he will give an oval office address about the oil spill. And it sucked.

Yeah. It was, it was the worst, because to somehow we decided that it was like a good time to talk about climate change in that speed and had to be an oval office address. Like, that was how stupid the conversation was. A standing speech in the East room was insufficient for the moment of the oil spill from a private company. If only I had known though that I could have just like farted out a bunch of crazy talking points. And that could be a good thing. But like it was it,

“it was a speech that was paned that didn't work out well, but I still worked really hard on it.”

Yeah. You know what worked out on this one? There are some fascist John Favre over there. Just back, back to really reading political right now. Back to the real substance of it, because I was trying to think like Donald Trump is sensitive to the market, to what's happening. I'm like he knows that he has a problem with the straight-of-formers. And I'm guessing that his cock and Amy plan here is, or hope, is that we walk away from this after a couple of weeks.

We say we've bombed everything. Everything's great. We've destroyed them. We won so badly. They're begging us for, they're begging us for a deal. But whatever we're walking away, we don't need them any more. We don't need the oil. And then he hopes that the Europeans and the Chinese, and maybe anyone else, like cuts their own deals with Iran for the straight. And then that alleviates the crisis around the world. And obviously, we don't kind of deal with Iranians. The Israelis don't. It's really

probably still at war with them. But if enough countries do, then maybe prices are a little high,

“but he can sort of blah, blah, blah has way past that. I think that's what he's hoping.”

I think that's a little more chess than he gets credit for. I think that is one approach. That is what could happen here. You know, and all the other countries on the world who are meeting about this, and having a conversation without the United States, about how to open this up. I think it's a little more like, I'm sure you've done this is when you have an older child

and younger child. And the younger child, once the toy the older child has, I would always tell Kyla

or daughter, just pretend like you don't want it for two minutes. And they'll let it go. Now, the only downside in that theory is I'm pretty sure that Trump was not deeply involved in litigating the disputes of his children. That's good. Maybe he saw an anti-do it. I don't know. Yeah. I think that's, well, that's definitely a dummy theory for Trump. Because the Iranians are like, Iranians right now have to feel great. They're like, yeah, I mean, the regime, right?

No, I'm saying that the Iranian people, but from a leverage point, like, yeah, a bunch of the leadership got assassinated, but the ones who are still surviving are like, I mean, we can control the straight-of-war moves. The United States is eventually going to give up and run. And they're giving us billions of dollars to sell our oil. Right. Yeah. We've lifted the sanctions too. So that's something. So that's that. In my humble opinion, Trump gave a much better speech earlier on Wednesday

at a White House Easter lunch with evangelical leaders that was somehow live streamed even though the event was supposed to be close to the press and the public. The White House eventually deleted the footage, but not before clips were posted all over the internet that includes such memorable moments as Trump's spiritual advisor comparing him to Jesus Christ, happy Easter, Trump comparing himself to Jesus Christ, Trump calling all Somalia Americans low IQ bad people,

and Trump saying that Christians, like Israel more than Jews, actually. But somehow, none of that was as newsworthy as what the president said about his priorities for America. The United States can't take care of Daker. That has to be up to a state. We can't take care of Daker. We're a big country. We have 50 states. We have all these other people. We're fighting wars. We can't take care of Daker. You got to let a state take care of Daker, and they should pay for it, too. They should pay.

They have to raise their taxes. But they should pay for it. And we could lower our taxes a little

individual things. They can do it on a state basis. You can't do it on a federal. We have to take care of one thing. Military protection. I have to guard the country. I mean, I need to know if you have somehow been able to infiltrate the White House and are now writing talking points for Donald Trump. I would not have done as good a job as that because that is so obviously on the nose. The Democratic argument is wild. And a lot of time, like Trump says things it should and people's

political campaigns all the time, like his remarks on a daily basis are more politically damaging, or should be more outrageous, more scandals than Mitt Romney's 47% mark comments that were

“so critical. I don't remember. Mitt Romney was caught basically blaming 47% of the country”

for mooching off the government. But one of the theories is to why Trump's comments don't get sufficient like conversation or coverage is because he just says it out loud. They're not secret, right? And the press is secret. This is just like the Mitt Romney thing. This is a private video tape that was essentially leaked by the White House, but leaked by their own areas. So it's like we get to see the things Trump is saying behind closed doors to political supporters. And

the president says that because we're so busy fighting wars that he started, we can't pay for daycare, state should raise taxes. And he seems to say at the end that we can't afford that

states should do Medicare in Medicaid? Yeah, throws in Medicaid. That was the amazing thing.

It's like the daycare is bad enough to throw in Medicaid and Medicare, which is not, I mean, that's a national program. That's a federal program. So he wants to he wants to block

“grant everything. Basically, he wants to give all the states for themselves. So he's basically”

telling people, if you want health care or child care, you're going to pay higher taxes in your state because I'm over here. Very busy paying for bombs on Iran. Yeah. And other places in the war to like we don't we don't know what's happening Cuba that the Venezuelal operation probably ran up a pretty big tab. I mean, there's also a Bloomberg story this morning because the budget's coming out that Trump's budget and the headline for this is Trump budget to focus midterms messaging on defense boost.

President Trump is preparing to release a fiscal year 2027 budget plan on Friday that will frame his party's midterm election message around a massive defense buildup partially paid for by cuts to domestic agencies like health and science. John, I've not only been in the president's talking once, I've also been in the OMB documents. What are they doing? Yeah. I mean, and it's not just him, like we talked, I don't know if you and I talked about it or I talked about the other put, but like

“the the axiostory about the house Republican. Yeah, that was Republicans in Congress or thinking of”

paying for the the military supplemental. Like $2 billion for Iran by cutting health care. Yeah.

Also, and just not for nothing, we didn't Trump didn't even mention his Twitter that he needs Congress to pay for this thing. He did not mention that. We should talk about that because I haven't heard much about that at all. And now we'll talk about it when we get to DHS, but like now they're talking about a budget reconciliation build that just funds ice. So like winter, they're going to wonder they're going to vote on the $200 billion that's supposed to pay for Iran. It's a great

question. I mean, who knows? But maybe we're all supposed to pay for maybe just going to be higher taxes for everyone. The state government is going to do it. The states, the states, the states, they're going to get rid of their daycare, their health care, the Medicaid, their Medicare, because everyone's got to pay for the bomb. We're a little bit weird like it's because we just bombed the biggest bridge in Iran that's civilian infrastructure for what reason we don't know,

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"We love Pam and she will be transitioning to a much need to an important new job in the private sector to be announced in a date in the near future." Not for nothing. I just find it

“very funny that like he has to announce her private sector jobs. Does she like belong to him forever?”

I think this is because in the Peter Ducey interview with Trump, it seems like Trump told Peter Ducey that she would be getting another job in the administration. So he had to clear that up. Yeah, because Peter Ducey reported it would be in the administration and then he got a transition around. Yeah. So it looks like Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, President's former defense lawyer, personal lawyer will now be the acting attorney general. During Pam's year plus is attorney

general, she distinguished herself by one weaponizing the DOJ to go after her bosses perceived enemies to executing that vision poorly and three bungling the release of the Epstein files so badly that it became a massive political liability for the president that stayed in the news for longer than maybe any other scandal of the Trump era? Oh, for sure not even close close to Russia, but Russia had a lot of twists and turns. This was like sustained. This lasted longer than

Trump's involvement in an armed insurrection that almost murdered members of Congress. Yes, I do remember that I recall they did vaguely happen. Not too long before he was like the president again, but it did happen. So I guess my question is why now on Bondi? I remember when we were in Australia in February. Yeah. And that's when she did the big hearing where she talked about the dial above 50,000 since then went below 40, went below 50,000 and now she's out. So there's fair there you go.

But I remember talking about like is he gonna fire her now? Whatever. It seems like a month and a half later. She hasn't been in the news all that much. Yeah, so I think their colleagues

going on here. First, I think the orderly fascism of Trump's second term has been has

reverted to the chaotic fascism of Trump's first term. He knows things are not going well. He's sort of lashing out all over the place. He's doing sort of crazy things left and right.

“And I think firing people is that's real first term. Trump behavior is so that's why”

comfort food. Yeah, exactly. So that's one. It's kind of, it's his, it's his blanky. This blanky. Yes. His blanky. It's because he's going back to his apprentice thing. That's what the way he knows, you know. And then this, but I think the second thing going on here is that no one pulls a band-aid off slower than Donald Trump. And so what he tends to do is... Yeah, there's been stories about him. I'm thinking about that in a river for like a month. And so what he, like Chris

you know is what happened with Chris, you know, was where he's somewhere, happened to Pampani, which is a massive scandal happens. Trump sticks with him through the scandal, takes on all the water of that scandal, waits till the scandal is out of the news. And then fires them, bringing the scandal back in the news, but getting none of the actual credit for responding to the scandal and holding someone accountable. I mean, Trump had fired Kristinaum right after the murders of

Renee Good and Alex pretty. Yeah. And the smearing of them. Right. That would have happened. It would have gotten a little... He would have seemed responsive to something. Yeah. He held someone accountable. Instead, he gave him a pad on the back, said he was taking with him, waited till later

probably helped her. They probably bought her time. No, I saw some detail in one of the stories that the, he actually thought that she was, he liked that she was combative with the Democrats. Yeah. After all, they were like, is this going to be the end for Pampani? No, it's like,

“no, he liked it. Yeah. She knows she was doing there. I saw, and I think the New York Times”

story said that she spent much of the last day making her case to stay. What a sad. The whole sad pathetic. Just imagine selling every bit of your integrity, to Trump, every bit, every bit, and then getting fired for not executing on his corruption. Well enough, which, I think I'd say this, in Pampani's defense, by the way, like, I do not think she failed to execute Donald Trump's agenda at DOJ, just because of her own incompetence. I'm not saying that she is competent, but like,

the problem goes beyond anything that Pampani or any of the stuages he installed at DOJ can fix.

The problem is the judges and the juries who are like, these cases are crazy. You don't have

a case against any of these people. You just hate them. Yes. Like, on that part of that is true. The other thing that happened in the news recently that probably got her at Hot Word of a Trump again was the announcement that the department of justice is going to stop, prosecute, was just going to stop trying the case on the law firms. Oh, yeah. And with all the law firms off the hook, who did not agree with the Trump settlement and then Trump got very mad about

that, and then like an hour later, they had to announce they were going back in to continue to fight that case. Do you see the pro-bublica story last week, too, that the DOJ has basically underbondied and Trump just stopped prosecuting 20,000 criminal cases because they've spent so much time on all of Trump's fucking weird priorities, whether it's, you know, getting his, you know, going after his enemies, all the other bullshit that they did. Yeah, immigration stuff. Yeah,

that was most of it. Sorry. So it's like, yeah, there's still, you know, good time to be a criminal if you're not, uh, if you're not an immigrant. Good time to be a certain time of time of criminal. Right. Certain type of, yeah, white collar criminal for sure. Yeah. There's some reporting that would finally, uh, did Bondi in was an allegation that she tipped off Congressman Erick Swallwell, who's running for governor in California, about an FBI investigation concerning

him. Now, this is a very old FBI investigation from 2015, basically the FBI notified Swallwell that an associate of his might be a suspected Chinese spy when he was notified. He broke ties with that person, and then the FBI investigated nothing ever came of it. This is what 10 years ago. I guess they trying to, they're going to release the files. Yeah, it's clearly, I mean, it's so obviously,

always running for governor. Let's release the files. Maybe there's something in the files

that will embarrass him because we couldn't bring a criminal case against him. I find this

“one hard to believe because in the story, it says that, uh, there's a, I think it, I think it's”

in the independent, I can't remember if it's, but the story says that a source close to the White House says that Bondi notified Swallwell due to their personal friendship. Yeah, I'm really, it's a daily mail. Oh, no, yeah. Yeah, she's intervening in those matters. The White House wasn't pleased she was intervening due to her personal friendship with Swallwell, the source said. Okay. It is, and then it says, it is unclear why Bondi would have intervened, but it is

believed that Bondi and Swallwell have a friendly relationship. There is not a chance that someone like Pam Bondi, who would carve out her own soul with a spark for Donald Trump, is going to feel so loyal to Eric Swallwell that she's going to tip him off on something like this? It's, I don't know if I believe that one right there. Uh, and in Swallwell, uh, his office put out a statement saying, absolutely not no one tipped us off, no one in the government let us know if it's just happening

“at all. And honestly, the best thing that can happen to Eric Swallwell as he runs for Revenue in a crowded”

primary in California is being targeted by Donald Trump for sure. Yeah, just ask Senator Adam Bishop. Hello, I went for him. I also noticed that the House Democrats are saying she still has to test she is a scheduled appearance in the House of Versailles Committee about Epstein and they're saying she's still has to do it. Then I kind of imagine that Comer will want that to. Yeah, probably. So that's because he had to subpoena her to get her there. So let's talk about Bondi's

potential replacement. I've seen reports that Trump wants EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin of her Janine Piero might be an option. I saw a report that some Republican senators want Mike Lee got help us. What do you think the chances are that there will be a real confirmation fight for whoever this is in the Senate and do you have ideas on why he might want any of the people I just named or who it might be? Well, let's first let's start with how long a planch can serve.

Planch can stay as acting for 210 days. Now here's what I would say to that one is I'm not sure who

enforces the vacancies act but I'm not sure. Sounds like it's probably taught. Yeah, so I think that he probably stay longer than that if you want. So there is actually some legitimate questions about whether that 210 day clock applies to the Attorney General because in the specific language around

he can say for about an acting section I can say for about 210 days. Not really sure why Trump wants

Lee's Eldon. Lee's Eldon was a jack officer in the military during his career but he's never

actually worked in traditional prosecution and law enforcement. So he would have very little experience for the job. Cool. So I'm not sure he would be. There's not any, I'm like the deep well of experience he has with the environment. Well, he's hated it for a long time. So yeah, okay. So he's not really clear. It's not really clear what Trump wants. It's in all the stories that he has mentioned Lee's Eldon. None of the stories say why he's mentioned Lee's Eldon.

I'm sure Trump doesn't fully understand. I'm sure it's how he looks. Yeah. Or he probably did like one good thing that's stuck in Trump at all. And that good thing is an interview on Fox News.

“Mike Lee, I think that is directly related to Republican centers wanting to spend less time”

with Mike Lee. That's funny. It's a, it's a jerk I saw from love. It's from really you too. But the same reason other Republican centers keep going to put take for us on the Supreme Court. I mean, well, the Mike Lee thing is funny because I just read a story. I don't know a couple of weeks ago that Republican colleagues in the Senate are like pissed at Mike Lee because he's fucking crazy. Yeah, these two things are exactly related because you know what that you do when you're in the Senate.

You have to have a lunch with your colleagues every single week. Yeah. So definitely, definitely promote that person to a position of near absolute power as, as Trump's attorney general. That's responsible. You know what? It's going to be, it's going to be a bad person under all scenarios. You might as well somehow have a lunch with Mike Lee. I mean, in terms of the confirmation

fight, like, you got Tillis who, you know, he's got a very powerful position in this. He's already said,

what does he blocking because of the pollin but Jerome Powell investigations? The new fetcher?

“The new fetcher? Yeah. Oh, there's a new fetcher. That's what it is. Yeah. And I think he could stand”

with the way of this. There's, you know, if it's a real crazy person to Susan Collins, one of hope for the crazy person. I think this is a lecture near this is a Mark Wayne Mullin. You think so? I think the next, the first week of places, Pam Bond is going to get the job the same way, Pam Bond. He got it, which is being somewhat other than the purpose of the before things. No, or reason, Pam Bond, he got confirmed these days because he's not in that case. Yeah. And so Mark Wayne

Mullin, he's had a long line of attorney general attorney's general. Yes. And unhappy with, you get your billbars, your Jeff Sessions. Jeff Sessions. Yes. Oh, my gosh. And forgot that was the original.

Yeah. Jeff Sessions to that interim guy, too. Do you think it's something that all these people

haven't common or is it you? It's like, it's bedlock. You know, it happens. Well, this thing is like, I don't, Lisa Elden's not going to be able to get the justice department to prosecute the people that he wanted Pam Bondy to prosecute that she hasn't been able to prosecute yet. Yeah, it does. All of this stuff is interesting, but not that significant. Yeah. I was like, who is it this, we talking about this with the Chrissy Nome and Mark Wayne Mullin? It's probably true that Mark Wayne

Mullin is not having a fair with Chrissy Lundowski. So that's not going to be an issue in this

“situation, but other than that, it's the cell, the same policies. But if that's what it took to get the job,”

he would. Okay. Oh, my, allegedly. Yes. It's just my opinion. There was a story this morning in the Guardian that Trump might be looking to fire Tulsi Gabbard next. Since we talked about discussing this one, advisors close to Trump, told Jennifer Jacobs at CBS, that originally he hit the Trump had the idea of moving Bondy to director of national television. This is what Peter Lucy was talking about. But now Trump said he wants Tulsi Gabbard to stay in that position,

and then they think the White House through Stephen Chung just put out a statement. There's like, it's all, it's a lie. Of course, we want to keep Tulsi Gabbard below. Stephen Chung said, but it was more, it was not like the, the lukewarm, the Pam Bondy statement from yesterday that, like, she is good. She did a good job. This one, this one was more, a little punchy. Yeah. I, I, I think, confident that neither Trump nor anyone around him likes Tulsi Gabbard. I just think

the job is fake. It's, it's a job created after 9/11. It doesn't, I don't think it really has to matter that much in this situation. So if you just want to ignore the DNI, as he is down, like she doesn't go to anything, he doesn't meet with her, doesn't talk to her. We went to war without speaking to her. He invaded Venezuela when she was on a beach. A lot of those post 9/11 moves really coming back to bite us in the ass now.

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presumably to intimidate the justices he recently accused of treason. Not sure it worked. Here are some of the conservative justices peppering Trump solicitor general with pretty skeptical questions during oral arguments. Do think Native Americans today

“are birthright citizens under your test and of your friends test? I think so. I mean, I'm so”

kidding. I'm statute. I'm statute aside the statute. Do you think they're birthright citizens?

We're in a new world now just to lead a point out to where 8 billion people are one plain

ride away from having a a child as a U.S. citizen. Well, it's a new world. This is same constitution. Burn, take that's a good thing you get to a real burn from John Roberts. Were you surprised by anything in the oral arguments? Oh, surprise to Trump went. Yeah, let's do it there. Yeah, let's do it there. Like think about what a fucking bozo though. Well, this is my like I saw that. It's like this is the worst thing about like you know what? Go for it, man. You think these fuckers who have lifetime

appointments are going to be intimidated by the 35% approval president lame duck second term president. It probably just go let's go through the decision making process here, which is were at war, gas prices are high. People are really mad about the economy. And you decide that you're high profile public appearance that they should be to attend a Supreme Court hearing on birthright citizenship. They'd almost every legal expert in the world says you're going to lose. You know what I

love about it is just so crazy can work? No, it's that I bet anything that the person who convinced him to do this even though Stephen Miller and I bet when he walked out of that courtroom Donald Trump he probably said to himself or maybe said it out loud to Stephen Miller what the fuck did you make me do that for? Because there's no way Donald Trump left thinking that what he did was that was a good idea.

Well, he left in the middle so because he's because he probably listed it first of all he probably

probably couldn't understand a lot of the words they were saying but he was probably I bet he could tell it wasn't going well. Yeah, even he could probably figure that out and then so that's the political communications aspect of this decision. Let's talk about the legal aspect of this decision

“to do it. Do you remember when the fate of the Affordable Care Act hung in the hands of just”

this Anthony Kennedy and Barack Obama used to make a joke all the time out he was going to mow his lawn washes car and then someone I don't think they heard directly from Kennedy but they sort of knew Kennedy's told Obama to stop making that joke because that like being seen as if you were trying to see it and he made that joke in public all the time yeah yeah and so or at least in enough place like not just in the office he was making that events and so enough that it would get back

to Kennedy and so this person who was close to Kennedy told Obama that's a bad idea because if it looks like you're trying to unduly influence the court it's probably going to push them in the opposite direction yeah so he's not making that joke and that is like a tiny little bit humorous bit of putting your thumb on the scale here you have Trump sitting in the front row trying to stare them down like when you know in a wire reference like when Avon Marksdale would go to the

hearings and just like look at the witnesses like say thing and that's obviously not going to work it looks it makes the the justices look ridiculous and so if you're sitting on the fence of your justice like my really going to go down this pretty ridiculous path and now it's going to like not only like an horizontal wall like I did Trump's bidding because he was there not going to work not going to work yeah it doesn't seem like it's going to go well for them you know I think

the justices also especially some of the conservative justices also asked the ACLU's lawyer

“some like tough questions as well but you have to listen to much of it or even be a legal expert”

to know that it was it was going badly just because like the unwarkability of what they're asking for here right like at one point they're like okay well you say that the executive order is perspective so that anyone born from here on out now there's no birthright relationship but like how do you make that work for all the people before like what what do you so now everyone is just going to have to go prove there's citizenship and prove that they were born before like what is this is

it is the most unwarkable crazy fucking executive order and I just can't I mean I'm sure you'll get like a veto or Thomas or whatever but I don't know or maybe some partial victory from from the dissenting judges I guess but like I don't know how anyone looks at that and thinks that like you know you can just overturn the 14th Amendment and that for nothing it's been a while

I mean as is Robert's asked he's like so the case is that you're talking about which is like

birth tourism or you know what happens if there's an invading army and a child born from a member of the invading army as they are they essentially he's like strikes me as some quirky examples yes it's like yeah no I think that's probably right so Trump sent out his his usual bitchy truth about the court right after he left but he reserved his angriest reaction for another court um when a judge appointed by George W. Bush ruled later in the day that Trump can't

“start construction on his White House ballroom his pride and joy the only thing he cares about”

unless Congress approves it first the judge said quote no statute comes close to giving the president the authority he claims to have you just say that about anything sure Trump president see how badly do you want to see Republicans in Congress take that vote I would love just love to see them vote on it they would flee town put it put it in the supplemental put it in the

the 200 billion for Iran when you're cutting health care just throw it in that one I mean these

fucking yeah who's who clearly want to be in the minority so that probably would propose cutting ACA funding to pay for the ballroom I didn't think that the baller like I didn't think that anyone would stop him on the ballroom but like I don't know it's I was looking I'm like okay maybe this could be a I assume he with this is one court order that he might just ignore would I mean he already knocked down the Eastway it's a little bit like putting the toothpaste back on the tube yeah which

“maybe respond a little faster here courts yeah I'm not really sure what the remedy is here”

just we have to leave a hole in the ground what is the remedy yeah I guess but then maybe the remedy is the Congress would have to approve something they would have to come to some kind of agreement on what they could build in that in that space besides the fucking eye soar of a monstrosity that that we saw in the New York Times last week yeah I don't I don't know it's but just leaving the hole there for a while will be fun yeah that would be good and by the way I'm I'm now on board

with the the next democratic president bulldozing the whole thing oh no that's no no I just after we've seen that after you're seeing what it looks like and that in the times and like the stairs to nowhere and the windows that aren't windows and like the fact that it's like three times as big as the actual white house residents like this isn't like oh Trump did it but it's a ballroom and it's a good space and whatever else and it looks fine like let's leave it who who

cares this is like what come on it's the white house you're gonna just build like another white house three times as big stacked onto the side except it's like super tacky because it's from Donald Trump I don't know not top of my agenda are you gonna make it a litanist has for yeah

never make it it's like eight pack yes you got to demolish the ballroom first and foremost

filibuster oh yeah we can do a crooked questionnaire that's perfect yeah that's perfect no if you send it in with thermo eliminate the filibuster demolish the ballroom so Trump's other passion project as of late is that making it harder for Americans to vote uh and now that the safe act is in passing congress anytime soon uh he did what we all expected and he just signed an executive order version of the law which isn't how this works but nevertheless

uh the eo directs the department of Homeland Security to create a list of eligible voters using social security data and send each state their list before every federal election it then directs the postal service to send mail in or absentee ballots only to the names on that list states that don't comply with lose federal funding constitution explicitly gives states the power to run their own elections but at the signing ceremony uh Trump seemed pretty confident

about this move take a listen I don't know how can we challenge of probably challenge it you may seem to find a rogue judge you get a lot of rogue judges very bad bad people very bad judges

“but that's the only way that can be changed and hopefully well we don't appeal if it is but I don't”

I don't see all anybody can challenge it I don't see all they can challenge it so we're going to Arizona immediately said they'd be just doing the challenge is happened right away as well a bunch of other groups democratic parties everyone's challenging it earlier this year Trump said Republican should nationalize and take over elections what do you think about this like this did not strike fear uh into my heart like maybe it should have but I was just like this

is going to be immediately rejected yeah this doesn't strike fear in my heart as well it seems pretty clearly in line with all the other things of course if thrown out the Trump is wanted to do and my general fear about election interference from Trump is not grand gestures from the White House like nationalized elections canceling elections banning mail ballots via executive fiat it's smaller scale use of ice or up to intimidate voters having ice do patrols and certain

precincts like if the Texas Senate racist close you can see ice all of a sudden showing up in the

above you know and worry but I'm worried about the season machines on the back end but I'm

“worried about most of the back end stuff yeah and the other the thing that I worry about a lot is and this”

you would have to be a very narrow narrow house majority for it to matter would be the failure to see um a member of Congress over like this is to the extent of this matter so it's all the claims are fraud leads to an environment where they can you know say that the in this close race there's enough clouds that we the Republican majority won't see the one individual who would give Democrats the majority yeah but that's a very uh black swan event to get to the one seed holding us from

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first session quick update on what appears to be a fittingly stupid end to the partial shutdown of Department of Homeland Security that's caused chaos at airport security lines last time we checked in House Republicans had just rejected the Senate's plan which passed by unanimous consent to fund all of DHS except immigration enforcement then Congress left town for two week recess and then they were followed around everywhere they went by TMZ uh now just a few days later

House Republican leaders apparently decided to cave though notice I said our House Republican leaders apparently decided to cave saying that they'll go along with the Senate's partial funding plan and then try to fund ICE and customs and board a patrol with a budget reconciliation bill which only needs Republican votes which was of course the Senate's plan all along only problem is the Congress is still in recess until April 14th so Trump announced on Thursday

that he would quote soon sign an order to pay all of the incredible employees the Department of

Homeland Security and not just TSA of the right before recording I heard that Mike Johnson on a call with his caucus he's just facing an uproar hard liners moderate everyone else everyone's just pissed because it Mike Johnson called it a crap sandwich before just last week and now he's saying I don't know what else we can do sometimes you need the crap sandwich that's part of being Congress yeah that is true do you think like how did they fuck this up so badly Mike Johnson's the one person in

America who could make Kevin McCarthy look like a competent legislator me just he's Mike Johnson is both dumb and weak yeah like what's up for us remember he's an accidental speaker he wasn't even particularly high up in leadership or had any role role he just happened to be a guy so inoffensive that you could get get and exhausted majority of vote for him yeah and so you end up a lowest common denominator leadership and so he listened to the far right rejected this thing

“had no plan for what came next it was obviously the only way to solve this problem as to”

do what the Senate did yeah and instead he decided you know what I know the Democrats are the ones who shut down the problem of health and security I know that there are lines everywhere people are really pissed about it I am going to take full ownership of this and then go and recess I'm wondering now if he can put down the rebellion that he's or just like quiet the anger right now because like again I don't know how else they would fund DHS if they don't go on

no there's no there's no other plan this is it there's have to do it they went through all the iterations and and if they don't do it they're not I mean I think the reason why they the Johnson cave is like they tried to blame this on the Democrats and we're like Senate Republicans who

went along with this plan I think they're having regrets now I think they're having second thoughts

yeah the Democrats won the shutdown right yes I think it's fair to say Democrats won the

political battle over the shutdown yeah they what they said for the beginning was fun one we're not going to fund ice unless you do reforms we will however fund the rest of DHS and do that do that we won't do that we won't do that we won't do that Democrats won that battle the thing that they have not won are reforms to ice right right so with like politically again it's not surprising

“because like you can't the only way you can reformize is if you have the votes to reformize”

and we don't have a majority and either so while we can do it say if you don't make our reforms then we're not going to vote to fund it and which is what we didn't know and what matters in the end here is that we win the majority and therefore have a ton of leverage because they will

can't leave the house without a they speak or he came Jeffries allowing it to come before

yes and so in the house it's a completely different dynamic even if it's over the same general issue yeah and I do think just it goes to show both Trump and their Republicans weakness just imagine this scenario a year ago yeah seven months or whatever it is before the election the Democrats shut down the department of homeland security probably because probably because I was and I would have been for it you know and you would have been like you're an idiot yeah well that it was would have

been true but but to defy it did not defund but like they shut down department of home security over ice funding would have thought that that was the Democrats doing the dumbest thing possible and they end up with the political high ground here it says a lot about just how the politics have

“changed all right two final very important items to discuss uh the first is a huge update”

um that I'll just let you hear about from uh trusted newsman Brett Bear. Christie Noam is asking for privacy and prayers tonight she said to be devastated by a report alleging her husband has been what is being called a cross-dressing double life senior national course by rich Edson has details tonight could even reach out. Good evening Brett. Daily Mail alleges it obtained hundreds of messages between Brian Noam and three women involved in a site

where men cross-dress. The mail posted several of these photos and writes Brian Noam allegedly sent women in the community $25,000 in virtual payments. The publication says Brian Noam did not deny

the explicit conversations but says he never put national security at risk. O'Connor stories today.

I did not watch that clip I saved it for this and talk that was good. All kinds of stories today. Absolutely. So since the release of the Daily Mail is reporting

“on Tuesday um at least one performer specializing in quote "sissy sub" and "bimboification uh”

has publicly come forward to claim she was paid $5,000 by Brian. Brian but it's BRY O'N I heard to Mueller calling him BRY O'N all the time and I can't get out of my hand. Over the last two years tell me the Daily Beast quote there's no way in hell that Christina didn't know per the Daily Beast. Brian Noam wanted the performer specifically to quote "instruct him to bend over arches back. Spank him." Oh you guys didn't need to put all this in. And show off what

she describes as the largest prosthetic breasts she's ever seen on a client. Okay. A lot of different ways we could take this um I I've I've told you before I would not kink shame you for "bimboification" because I know this is a thing for you. I've ordered I learned from you this morning. You didn't know what it was before right? No. I didn't even I I I know I I I rinsor I was like what is this I don't believe is this a thing I didn't I knew that there was a cross-dressing

scandal with Brian Noam. The uh some texts I got because I was not really reading the news just not not not not before the story. No no no no no. Are you the source? Yes. In the last 48 hours whatever it was but I did not read any of them. Oh yeah. And then just when I looked at the outline for this morning it just had a something like it had been publication and I was like I didn't know it was the same thing. So I'm learning of I learned about it in real time. I will say my take on this

is you're the spouse of a homeland security secretary and you're getting into stuff that if it's public can embarrass you you're spouse. It's like an opportunity for blackmail. Even if it's just in like public embarrassment like you you just you can't be doing that stuff you know but aside from that you know she's the one who she's going to put him in this horrible. Yes. She's been clearly cheating on him allegedly. Yes and we're almost having to drop allegedly at this point

but she like for just openly the whole like country knows for years. For years she's asked about it at a hearing where he was sitting right behind her. So he's dealing with that and now he's dealing with this. So you get you feel a little bit for for Brian. Yeah but not so much Chrissy know him because like she I want her to be more about what about thoughts and prayer what he's the one who really sucks.

and then fucking posed for a picture in front of it. Yeah I have some questions about

the vetting process at the White House and the FBI and the Senate. Yeah he's gonna say that.

“Please the FBI I guess the idea I don't think they did background checks. I think the Trump”

would not let the FBI do background checks on his nominees because he thought that they were to anti-insurrection. I'm not sure in Jellyshire. Wow. Trump was asked about it too which is I would love to hear someone explaining bimbo vacation to Trump. So if you're that mole who's posting the live streams can we get one of those? I would like yeah he was asked briefly about and he was just like it is interesting how like Christy know and every like I'm asking for prayers

and privacy at this time. Yeah what about him? It's very like why not all of them just be like no we're not responding to the story like get away nothing and just like that leave it at that. This is her chance to bring her core Lewandowski alleged relationship to the forefront. Thanks for coming up with Lewandowski that that pushed this whole thing around. Allegedly theoretically

“we don't know. That's why I said maybe maybe anyway we'll just leave that there for Brian.”

Finally she may title this potty Brian song.

So you may have seen the viral videos of Kid Rock saluting and clapping on the pool deck of his mansion outside Nashville is to Apache helicopters hover just overhead apparently attempting some kind of counter programming to the no Kings March happening nearby. Those helicopters appear to be from Fort Campbell and army base over the border in Kentucky and the army immediately set it with look into it later announcing that the two crews had been suspended as the investigation

continued. Kid Rock told local reporters I think they're going to be all right my buddies the commander and chief of course sure enough trump got a question about it in the oval office said he'd take a look because they like Kid Rock I like Kid Rock maybe they were trying to defend him at his mansion in Nashville. A couple hours later Pete Hegs have posted thank you Kid Rock US army pilot suspension lifted no punishment no investigation carry on patriots within American flag emoji. What a

fucking asshole such a consumer. I don't know what do you think of this story. I like it did not register as a big deal to me until read wanted us to cover it and then I started reading about I'm like yeah this is really fucked up and crazy and the fact that it barely registers including with me someone who talks about the news all the time just goes to show like how down the rabbit hole we are. I would just say as a piece of advice to Kid Rock those helicopter

pilots all on the right that if you perhaps your response to a rally that suggests that trump wants to be a king and dictator should not be a show of military force. Yeah also what kind of goobers were like we got to find Kid Rock I think his mansions up here was like fly by and maybe maybe he'll wait. Is that what the thing is that it was like they were just like a whole wood star tour. He was in the pool that they thought it was hoping it was in the pool deck. Yeah like what if he wasn't there

“were they just like. But did he know that did he know they were coming? That's what I don't know.”

I'd love to know what actually democratic majority. You think this is a good one? You know what? I'm going to send someone's that South Dakota to Nashville and get to the bottom of all this. I did on this South Dakota thing did see there was like a clip of the reason podcast I think like expressing libertarian expressing some sympathy for Byron known on this and then Dave Whigel quotes we did and said it was right sympathy that helped fuel Hillary Clinton's run for Senate

into the house and there is an acting governor of South Dakota. Right now they were rodent. So oh they could not. Oh wow yeah it's because it's replaced known when known. Oh interesting. So maybe Byron can get his sweet revenge by running for governor. You know what I hope he like has another another turn of the wheel is like a maga influencer with some so you know or maybe not. You would be nice if you know he like came over to the good side.

But you know I like I hope that I hope that Byron finds his life with thoughts and prayers for Byron. It is true that I heard some people say this like yeah you can't feel too bad for him because he was stayed married to Kristi Nome as she went on this reign of terror as the ice queen

and never said anything as as people's rights were being trampled. So there is that with yeah yeah.

But you know he did show up at the hearing to support his wife well so I was you know I was going to say sitting in the country I feel bad the guys you know whatever whatever we're done kid rock bad byron yeah okay that's our show for today level we back in the feed on Sunday with a conversation

Given the volume of laughter happening outside the studio as we were recording. Perhaps he didn't.

Perhaps it was raised yes well tune in Sunday to find out have a good weekend everyone. Bye everyone.

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