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“Warning, this series includes discussion of inhumane medical experimentation, including”

on children, violence, sexual assault, abuse of children, and cultural genocide. The Mohawk Mother's a group of indigenous women gathered in front of the Alan Memorial Institute in Montreal on Tuesday to provide an update on their search for unmarked graves. This clip is from a city news report posted to YouTube. It's from the autumn of 2025.

"We have announced to the Superior Court that we will be filing an interlocutor emotion shortly. We have no choice." It shows the Mohawk Mother's occupying the grass in front of the Alan. The Mohawk Mother's are part of the indigenous group known as The Mohawks, the Kaneka.

Time them are more than 50 supporters, wearing orange and holding banners with slogans such as "uncovering the truth." Government-funded facilities have a long and terrible history of mistreating indigenous children. The Mohawk Mother's say the Alan was no different. And something from Lana's memories has opened up an entirely new investigation.

"I'm Dr. Julia Shah. This is Project Mind Control." More interesting with my friend. At the Alan Institute, Lana made a friend. "Oh, she was beautiful, she had a long parade way down her back, and she had a most beautiful

mucus and I've ever seen in my life, and she said that a grandmother made them for her.

“And I asked her where she came from, and she said something with a "Hey, I can't remember”

the name, but she said it wasn't too far away." Morningstar was the only friend Lana remembers having at the Alan. She was a year older than I was she was 16. Dr. Cameron encouraged socializing, in fact, in 1956 he wrote, "Grip interaction is one of the prime dynamics upon which the day hospital rests and functions."

That's probably why there were dances. But Lana met Morningstar in a decidedly less cheerful atmosphere. She had just had a series of treatments, and she was sitting on the floor. She couldn't walk. She was, uh, don't dump a lot the same as I was.

They met on one of the halls of the Alan Institute. And she said she didn't feel well, and she explained to me what they did to her, and I figured out that she had the same thing united the Alexa Shock Treatment. Because when I used to get it, it used to make me scream because it was so horrific. It does something to your body."

She saw Morningstar for a while afterwards. And then, all of a sudden, she was gone, and I said, "Well, where did she go?" And nobody would answer me, and I got mad and I said, "You know, I saw her at the message, "Well, where'd she go?" And one of the nurses was quite rude, and she said, "It's not up to you to know where

she went."

When Lana first met her statement about having seen Morningstar at the Alan, it got the

Mohawk Mother's Attention. I did see Indigenous children in the Alan Morningstar was one of them.

I can't remember how many they were, but there were children in there.

I'd say the every change would be 9-10, 9-10 years old, 11-12, just like us. They were all kinds, all kinds of children, all kinds of children.

“I'll never forget that they were red handle shelves, and they were digging, and I thought,”

"Well, why are they out here digging? What are they doing?" And then I found out that there were possible bodies buried on the property. Now what else could they have been doing? Why would they be digging?"

Lana remembers sneaking out of her room. I got out because they forgot to lock the door. She testified to this in her affidavit as well, which is voiced by an actor. I would sneak out of my room at the Alan at night, and walked down the front steps, and I would hide, I found people standing over by the cement wall with shovels.

Two were on one side of the wall, and one was on the other side.

“I remember that vividly because they had red handles on the shovels and a flashlight.”

What were they doing with shovels over by the concrete fence? There was only one thing that comes into my mind, where they burying something in the ground. What else could it be? There were rumors that there were bodies buried in the Alan property, and I believe that some of them would be indigenous people.

Lana thinks that perhaps something terrible happened to Morningstar. Maybe the treatments made her so ill that she passed away. I really think they must have been bearing bodies. Morningstar, she disappeared from the Alan. I don't know where she went, but I'd love to find her if I could.

I would love to find her.

“Of course, Morningstar could simply have been discharged, but the nature of secrecy at”

the Alan, and the defiance of the nurses, the old speculation. One of the nurses was quite rude, and she said, "It's not up to you to know where she went." Hi, how are you doing? Good.

We're in Ganawage, a first station's reserve to the south of St. Lawrence River in Quebec,

to meet the Mohawk mothers. Suzy McCarthy is a Canadian radio producer. We were introduced to the mothers by anthropologist Dr. Philippe Bluah, who specializes in all things Kaneka Ha. He's about to take Suzy to meet Gahente Netta and Guadillo, two prominent Hikahau women.

We were everywhere, we were a huge group of people, we had people living in New York State and down further south and so on and out west too further and north, so we were a large group of people, but then in the end we weren't. Kahente Netta is in her 80s now. She was a civil servant in the Department of Indian Affairs.

She was also a fashion model in her early 20s. She's still enchanting and has an air of glamour to her. She rose to prominence as someone speaking up for indigenous land rights, treaty rights, and she continues to engage in cultural advocacy.

First of all we have treaties which guarantee in exchange for Canada, we have been guaranteed

our education, our medical care and our welfare and guarantees of our Indian lands and also mineral rights. Here she is speaking about the Canadian Constitution and treaty rights in Ottawa in 1968. In the video she looks poised and confident. She even makes a joke.

Our rights have been violated for such a long time that they should try and think about

After all I think that they're getting Canada quite cheap, they're not paying very much at the moment. In 1963 she was also crowned as Indian Princess of Canada.

“I don't think it's activism, I think it's just our duties and responsibilities to our”

people and to our communities to our children. It's all there we know what we have to do and we'll do it and we won't let anybody stop us. Guadillo, a businesswoman who's worked to develop an autonomous Mohawk economy agrees.

Well first of all I understood when you asked Guandena to about her activism and she

said she doesn't call it that we more or less call that asserting our rights, asserting our inherent rights and asserting our responsibilities. So in this, what it is is that there is a history there, free colonialism and that is a respectful place where we met once upon a time and as they explained to us, those rights involve protecting the land and children.

Here's Guantineta again.

“So it was just something that's part of our culture.”

We tried to put it in people's minds, not like the white people right on the peace paper and then they put it on the shelf somewhere and they forget about it. Not us, we have to tell those stories over and over again and when we make any kind of

a deal, anything, well of course the women are the ones that finally make the decisions

on a lot of it, especially anything that has to do with the land and the babies and the children and the men of course, you know, are the warriors. The Canaca Hot don't keep written records. They have a tradition of oral history. So everything gets passed down from generation to generation.

We just passed it on and people will say, oh I heard that story before, you know, just the other day, somebody said, I heard that story, this is the way I heard it. So we all correct each other's stuff for me. Sometimes it's very old, it's 20, 34 years old and we're correcting each other's stories. By not writing things down, we don't have additional documents that we can rely on,

which makes it a bit more difficult for us to piece this story together. They have deep concerns over the treatment of indigenous children at the Allen Institute. There are people buried there and whether we know their names are not, there are people that deserve the respect of having their story told, being buried properly and not being a guinea pig.

“Is it plausible that a psychiatric facility would bury dead patients in their own backyard?”

Until 1996, Canada had a system of residential schools. This report aired on the 13th of March 1955 on CBC TV's News Magazine. It shows indigenous children skipping rope, playing hockey, reading books in a classroom and playing table tennis. They make it look fun to be there.

Municipal Eric Burrington dispenses first aid among his many other duties.

He had one of Canada's 69 Indian residential schools, scattered in key locations as far north as the Arctic Circle. They've a total of 11,000 people's orphans, convalesced. Those who live too far in the wilderness to get to a daily school. The explicit purpose of residential schools was in the government's own words to civilize people.

Are they all just Canadians and new computers? I am Canadian, and when I was learning about this at school in the 1990s, there was very little public discussion of what really happened at these residential schools. Today, it is widely recognized that residential schools were part of a systematic oppression of indigenous beliefs, practices, and languages by the state.

A practice, which has been called cultural genocide. I went to one of the schools year, and it was right after the war. I was six years old, and I went to the school here, and I couldn't speak any English. So they thought that I was mentally retarded.

Kahantine Etta didn't go to a residential school. Instead, she was sent to an Indian day school, a different type of racially segregated education in Canada. I know they're very, very angry about that, but I spoke more often.

anyway, it was a very hard time. Children would often simply disappear to these schools.

“I think my father was worried about us being taken, and then he took us out of school.”

It was compulsory for indigenous children to attend schools, designed to assimilate them, known broadly as Indian schools.

Canada is the second biggest country in the world, and indigenous reservations are often

an incredibly remote places. Even just the province of Quebec is six times the size of the entire United Kingdom. If you look at the map, there are lakes and islands and forests and rough terrain everywhere. This means the journey from the indigenous reservations to the schools could sometimes take days, necessitating planes, ships, and cars.

“So it must have taken a great deal of effort and risk for Kahantine Etta's father to pull her out of”

the school. And it was the threat of the state sending someone again to snatch them,

that is presumably why her father took them to the US. The reality of children being taken was a constant threat until the last school closed in 1996. The government of Canada has estimated that 150,000 indigenous children were removed and separated from their families and communities to attend these residential schools. Over the following decades, it came to light that thousands of indigenous children across Canada

died due to the horrific conditions and punishments in these facilities. Many of them were buried in unmarked and mass graves.

“So is it plausible that a government-funded facility might bury indigenous children on their property?”

In Canada, absolutely. Or that documents pertaining to indigenous children and their deaths are lost? Also yes. According to official government reports, the paperwork in these cases was often mismanaged, lost, or destroyed.

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From Sony Music Entertainment and Em William Phelps LLC, fatal fantasy, available now on the bench, search for fatal fantasy wherever you get your podcasts. From 2015 until now, McGill University has undergone an extensive consultation process for the new Vic project, which involves building on the site of the Royal Victoria Hospital, which is where the Allen Institute was housed under Dr. Cameron.

The site is of archaeological importance. It was historically used as a place of meeting and exchange among First Nations peoples.

It has been a medical facility for a long time, and there's never been a residential school on the

grounds. In 2022, after hearing Lana Pontings Account of Morningstar, the Mohawk Mothers filed a lawsuit against the University and others, that stopped the new Vic development from going ahead. We have the duty to go and investigate and make sure that no one is buried there without a respectful send off. In 2023, the search for the missing children began. It was a big undertaking, and the Mohawk Mothers were directly involved from the start of the search.

McGill agreed to allow researchers into their archives to try and find any documents

to search the records for specific names, and Canadian law barred them from seeing the records

“of anyone they weren't a direct descendant of. Meanwhile, the archaeological search was beginning.”

One of the central questions is the efficacy of this actual investigation and like whether or not it was. There are a lot done hopperly. This is community researcher and archaeology student, Josie Quickly, who's been working with the Mohawk Mothers. The search is still ongoing, and here is how it is being carried out. The University appointed archaeologists to identify areas of interest. Once those areas were identified, three methods were used to search them.

First, came the human remains dogs who were sent to sniff out the grounds. The dogs picked up the

scent of human remains. They're able to very, very accurately identify the scent of specifically human decomposition. They don't alert animals. They don't alert to like contrary to popular belief

“a tooth rotting in a sewage system, for example. After the dogs picked up the scent of human remains,”

radar was used that could penetrate the ground. Once you, in theory, have found an area of concern with the historic human remains detection dogs, you would then go to use ground penetrating radar, which cannot tell you what is in the ground, but it can tell you where it is, how big it is, how deep it is. Radar found nine areas with, in quotes, potential, grave type features. So, those things are complementary shall we say, so you know like there are human remains in this

general area. Okay, there's something that is human remains shaped and varied approximately where we would imagine a human remains too varied in the area that they've indicated. According to Miguel, none were found to be graves. One area, the most significant one, turned out to be a concrete mass with cables running through it. The problem with ground penetrating radar is that it is not made to detect bodies. GPR really can only tell you that like there is a material that is different

from the material that it is just passed through. So, because human remains are organic, when they are just straight put in the soil like no coffin, no tomb or anything like that, there's very little difference between like the electrical and magnetic resistance to the human body, can there to like soil and not all of the potential grave type features could be ruled out. So, people were sent to collect soil samples and analyze them. And then the final line of evidence

that we have been using the soil spectroscopy in the soil samples, they found something. Soil spectroscopy also indicated that there is evidence of soft tissue decomposition. But this method too has issues. Cannot distinguish between human and non-human decomposition, but it only identifies the decomposition of soft tissues. There was one place on the former ground of the Allen that was flagged by all three methods. To Josie and others working with the Mohawk

Mother's, this is significant. So, combining all three of those lines of evidence is like how we get to the conclusion of like this supports the presence of human remains on site even if we can't physically take them up. On their website, McGill says, "The allegations that there may be unmarked graves on the site of the former Royal Victoria Hospital are currently being investigated. The University wishes to shed light on these allegations, which will only be possible

once the archaeological investigation has been completed. To date, no human remains have been discovered." There's been very little excavation on the site. But what there has been has thrown up some questions. There was a soul of a child's shoe. There was the side remnant of a old boot.

It has been identified as a small woman's or child's shoe from the first half of the 20th century.

The shoe was found in one of the search areas where construction work was about to take place.

“Because of this, the team were able to excavate a small area. And the shoe isn't the only thing”

that was found. When they found bones, they're like, "Oh, that's a animal." Oh, that's animal. And it's like when animals die, they don't get buried. Other animals eat them or the elements take

sizes. And they were thrown in a paper bag and they said, "We're going to take them to the lab."

“And we are going to investigate, they believe, that some of the remains that were dismissed as being”

from animals may actually have been from humans. The group is also concerned about soil and bone fragments being sifted by machine, which the Mohawk mothers say could have destroyed fragile evidence. The Mohawk mothers are once again left with more questions than answers. Right now, we're waiting for a report. And there are things that while the technological people were on site that they have found anomalies, so we are trying to do our best

to find a way to have that investigated in the proper manner.

McGill's website says that, "If human remains were detected, the building work would cease immediately." Consultation would ensue with the archaeological panel appointed in this case,

“law enforcement authorities, the medical council of Canada, and leaders of local indigenous communities.”

We reached out to McGill for comment and they said, "In terms of the site of the former Royal Victoria Hospital, the McGill Sustainability Park, a state-of-the-art research teaching and learning hub dedicated to sustainability systems and public policy is moving forward as planned

with an expected opening date of 2020. McGill's commitment to reconciliation has helped guide

the development of the sustainability park. Indigenous communities have been engaged to co-develop proposals for Indigenous physical representation throughout the sustainability park design phase. Over 50 internal and external Indigenous community members were engaged in dozens of activities over a period of two years."

“We tried to find Morningstar but couldn't definitively identify anyone who matched her description.”

And, there was the question, given that no bodies have been found, is there evidence that any patients died at the allen? In addition to Lana's one memory of shovels with red handles and whispers in the middle of the night, she has another memory, one involving a pool. Here she is talking about it in her affidavit. The allen was an open concept and I heard people talking. The swimming pool was not there when I was. It was put in two years later, but two years earlier,

I heard somebody say, "Why are they building a swimming pool?" And this person said, "Well, I guess to hide the bodies." So, what was I supposed to think when he said that? I heard a lot of things going on at the allen. It wasn't a patient, it was the staff people talking. And then the patients started to ask, "What is going on? Why am I here? What are they doing to me? Why are they doing this to me?"

It was horrible. A swimming pool was built on the grounds of the Allen Institute in 1961. Three years after Lana was discharged. A quick search takes you to the haunted Montreal accounts. The abandoned Henry William Morgan pool nestled between the old royal Victoria Hospital and Allen Memorial Institute is rumored to conceal dark secrets. Built in 1961, it's now graffiti covered and eerie. After a tragic drowning in 2013, it was shut down. Spooky tales include sightings of a decaying

hand reaching from the stagnant water and unsettling dreams of children's voices. Locals believe it may hide the bodies of children from horrific experiments conducted at the nearby Allen Memorial Institute. The video posted on Instagram is more of a slide show of still images, sometimes black and white, sometimes in color, of the allen, and of the graffiti pool. We couldn't find concrete evidence of anyone dying at the Allen.

So we wanted to see if we could find any evidence of Dr. Cameron's patient starring whilst under his care in experiments or otherwise. And we did find one case. The death of subject 11, a case that Dr. Cameron wrote about and the circumstances are quite extraordinary. In 1931, Dr. Cameron published the results of an experiment conducted on 12 participants. He was testing the hypothesis that dehydration could cure epilepsy.

Every day, they would be given precisely 60 milliliters of water in total.

“That's the equivalent of a double espresso. On top of that, they were given a water-free diet”

and dioretics to stop them from retaining the water. The study went on for seven months.

In the third month, there was a problem. A fatality occurred in case number 11. The patient grew

very excited, refused nourishment and acidosis developed. And there was some degree of nitrogen retention. Sudden collapse and death followed. The 24-year-old patient died from the complications of dehydration. Effectively, their whole body became acidic. The other patients also suffered, showing signs of severe distress or, as Dr. Cameron said, irritable. Be chafed at the restrictions and clashes with the staff where

rather frequent. Dr. Cameron describes it in his report as, in quotes, "difficulties

“and carrying out the diet." And describes their behavior in a section titled "stealing."”

From the first week or so, the patient's stool or attempted to steal food or drink on every opportunity. They took snow from the window ledges, water from flower vases, and food from other patients' trays. Ultimately, they had to be confined on a special ward and kept under the closest observation. Importantly, he didn't run this experiment at the Allen. He ran it at a hospital in Manitoba. This study and others that he published showed that he was willing to make his patients suffer greatly.

But it also shows that he didn't have to hide the fact that a patient he experimented on died. He could be open about this and still be hired by one of the country's most prestigious universities. Or, half his research be funded by one of the world's biggest intelligence agencies. The "C-I-A". Next time, on Project Mind Control.

“So, I guess that leads the question of, you know, like, where these all influenced by Dr. Cameron?”

I mean, like, I can't say, you know, if they were copycat things. Well, does that make the CIA responsible for all of the copycats that happened? I'm Dr. Julia Shaw. Project Mind Control was presented by me and written by me and my producer, Simonorata. The executive producers are Elsa Rochester and Louisa Adams, sound designed by Craig Edminson. Lana's affidavits were read by Martin Richards.

The words of Dr. Cameron were read by Paul Livingston.

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