Provoked with Darryl Cooper and Scott Horton
Provoked with Darryl Cooper and Scott Horton

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Darryl Cooper & Scott Horton discuss the military moves being made by the US and NATO forces, foreshadowing an imminent regime change operation in Iran. They also discuss escalating tensions in Afg...

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All humans break the difference between humans and gods

and the gods can break humans. >> The ghost shit now, and it's cool.

>> You're watching provoked with Darryl Cooper and Scott Horton debunking

the propaganda lies of the past, present, and future. >> This is pre-popped. [MUSIC] >> Oh man, Friday night broke with the end, Darryl. Hey, Darryl, how you doing, man?

>> Doing all right, doing all right, trying not to obsess too much overall, the crazy stuff went on in the world and focus on my work, but it's been tough the last few days. >> Yeah, it's hard to do a history and current events at the same time.

>> Had that problem with the right and provoked.

I'd be deep in Bosia and then rush a gate. And then there'd be all break and news about actual Ukraine stuff going on. I got to cover all tonight. >> It's like being a time traveler kind of.

>> Well, it sure looks like we're going to war with Iran.

Although, I couldn't tell you any good reasons why we got to. So we're going to talk about that tonight and we're going to talk also about Afghanistan and Pakistan. This time it's not Obama killing them all together. It's then killing each other, man. Afghanistan and Pakistan.

You know, there's some limited strikes, but they're calling it real war. We'll see how far that goes. >> Yeah, another video, look pretty real. >> Yeah, and then Ukraine too, you sent me some Ukraine news for analyzing there. So we'll get to something that, but here's a let's start with being old president there.

Oh, no, that's the wrong one. Where is the right one? Oh, let's start with this one, man. I don't like this one at all. I'll share this tab instead.

Check this out, dude. So, hey, so what happened was I didn't actually click through and read the political piece because I'm a busy guy.

But what I did was I did read the Jerusalem post version that has the quotes in your first

hold of the headline. Trump advisors, I Israel first Iran's strike to boost US backing for American assault. And then check out the quote here. They're thinking in and around the administration that the politics are a lot better. If the Israelis go first and alone, and the Iranians retaliate against us, then give

us more reason to take action. More Americans with stomach, a war with Iran, if the United States are an ally, were attacked first, Darryl Cooper, I mean, man, okay, well, you're the historian, but so a couple of things come to mind immediately when I hear that. The first thing is the story from 2007, when David Warmsur, the principal author of the

Clean Break Strategy, and Dick Cheney's former policy advisor, was bragging at the American Enterprises Institute that they had a plan to get these railies under A.H. Homer, then to attack Iran to force Iran to hit American targets as an excuse, really to force an end-run around W. Bush to give him no choice but to go to war with Iran, then since Cheney wasn't happy with him not wanting to do it.

And this is what was behind the E.F.P. hoax in Iraq and all that was trying to force that. And that story was broken by Stephen Clemens at the Washington note, but then it was double extra verified by Barton Gellman of the Washington Post, and I forget who of the New

York Times, and I'm trying to think, because I think there's one more time magazine or

somebody else confirmed the same thing that they were shopping this around. In that case, though, Darrell, W. Bush was the end that they were trying to run around. They were trying to figure out how they could force him to do this thing that he was reluctant to do. In this case, we're talking about the White House, presumably with the President in on

the whole thing, trying to do it and run around the American public, but don't want to do this. But they're talking about the plan. Are these railies attack in a way that will force Iran to hit our guys, and then we'll be able to pretend that itself defense will be able to rally the American people around

the war in the name of the dead guys that just sacrificed. Which sounds to me, like they, you know, for various reasons, maybe don't realize the implication there, but they're essentially boasting of a plan to commit high treason and get Americans killed in order to force the American people in the war. Like it's Franklin Roosevelt, the polar, for a harbor, highest treason against the American

people that you could possibly think of. We have guys at risk in Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi, UAE, Oman, all up and down the Gulf there, particularly in Kuwait, Qatar, and Bahrain, tens of thousands of troops, sailors, airmen, etc. So, wow, you know, starting war, that's really bad.

Pearl Harbor, Stahl, FDR, level treason, that's really, really bad.

And here they are openly declaring that that's their intent. What do you make of that?

Well, I guess the first two things that come to my mind, you kind of will be the first one

already, is just, you know, just think of the message that that sends out to our guys and men and women that are out there right now.

I mean, you're basically telling them that you are there as bait, that's what you're doing

right now. In fact, there are people in the establishment, people who are in the planning, in decision-making, infrastructure who actively want you to get killed, that's their plan. That's the first thing. The second thing, though, I mean, are they boasting about it or was this a leak?

Because it makes me wonder if somebody in there is, you know, not too happy about something like this, if they leaked it and put it out there. I mean, because it does take some of the air out of the tires, obviously like your economy is not necessarily paying attention to every, whatever that was, political story, or whatever that comes out, but the fact that it is out there does, you know, it wouldn't

seem to take some steam off it if they did try it, but who knows, I mean, hasn't stopped them before.

I mean, you were talking about a weird situation here, right, where on one hand, Trump

is under like in enormous amount of pressure, enormous amount of pressure to attack Iran, which is extremely strange to say, because this is an 80, 20 issue, like 80% of Americans are opposed to us striking Iran, and yet he's under tremendous pressure to do it, which is, I mean, it's an indictment of, you know, of the, just the representative nature of our system, obviously, you know, and so we're in a very strange place, we're getting, you

know, the other thing too is we're getting so many mixed signals, and so many just forget mixed just completely contradictory signals, you know, you'll get the Wall Street Journal coming

out at 11 a.m. saying that, you know, Kushner and Whitkoff walked in there and they basically

demanded that the Iatola send Trump a video of him on his knees begging him not to hurt him or something, and then three hours later at 2 p.m., you know, Axios, or whoever will come out, quoting the Iranian foreign minister, or, you know, one of the, oh, money mediators saying, no, this was things are going great, actually, and we're making a ton of progress, and, you know, we look forward to the next meeting, we've already agreed on principles,

and so I mean, obviously there are, you know, a lot of this is just, people are trying to manipulate and, and, and the story in such a way that Trump is backed into a corner where he feels like he has to do something, otherwise, I mean, because look, man, like, I'll tell you one thing, like, if by some miracle, we manage to avoid this thing, you know, the Zionist establishment, the Neo-Cons, the Lindsey grant, they are going to go scorched

earth on Trump, and part of what they're doing right now is trying to set the table, set the narrative table, to let him know that if this doesn't happen, if anything other than you going in there and, and so on, everything we got at Iran happens, we've already got the stories written, Trump's, you know, a coward, Trump just shows how he's, you know, how, how his vice president has been co-using up to these antiques, and they've got them

all written already, you know, and they're letting him know that. And so, I mean, we'll see, man, it's, it's hard for me to predict what happens. I mean, like, I don't know if you saw the, the interview with the, or Omani Foreign Minister today, who's like the lead negoti, or not the lead negotiator, but the lead mediator for the negotiations, and you could tell watching this guy was a 20 minute interview with Margaret

Brennan on Meet the Press, and it's a very thoughtful guy. I mean, it was a very, you're listening to him, at least assuming these negotiations are something, you know, that, that are not just a ruse day by time to get our assets into place or something, you know, and that they are an actual negotiation, you want to set interview and it's hard to come away with anything other than good feeling about

the fact that he's the one in between the two parties. But his feeling, and this is what he told her anyway, was that in his opinion, like both sides

are very earnest, both sides are being very creative, very open, and, and honestly trying

to find a compromise, and one of the things he said today, and this was after he met with JD Vance today, which is pretty important too. That's the highest level of government official that's met with anybody involved, you know, the negotiations other than Kushner and Whitcloth, you know, he gave this interview right afterwards, and what he said was, oh, I said a few really interesting things.

First of all, that Iran has agreed and principle to give up all like to give up their stock

pile of enriched uranium, all that, the foreign and 40 kilograms of 60 percent, they have

Agreed to, you know, oversight, whatever oversight is necessary to have that ...

down to the lowest possible point, and then converted into fuel after that, which, you know,

according to him, I'm not a nuclear physicist, obviously, be said the conversion to fuel,

makes that process irreversible. They can't take that uranium and then like reinrich it or something, and then they agreed to accumulate, no more uranium. The second thing he said, which has been a key to man, the second thing that he said is that he believes this isn't something the Iranians have officially put on the table yet,

but he believes the Iranians are open to, and this is something that Obama was never able

to accomplish, something Trump could hang his hat on if it goes that way, that the Iranians he believes are open to even having American inspectors in Iran to oversee these things along with international, you know, I A, A, A, A, A, Tuck the people and whatnot, and so those are massive, I mean, those are huge concessions, after years of negotiation, however long it was that it took Obama that he was never able to extract that they, that they have

agreed to, and it seems to me that the Iranians are really bending over backwards to try to, at least be, you know, be able to say that they did everything that they could do short of just giving up their, you know, the core interest to their sovereignty.

So if I mean further than that, I mean, I think I said that, well, okay, so, I'm sorry,

I didn't get the first source in this, I read it from Larry Jones tonight, interviewed

who I'm actually earlier today about that, they actually offered also to have a more

corey among all enrichment for three to five years, and then even then, only rich up to 1.5% which I didn't even realize I could run there like one reactor, I'd be sure of that, but still fine. Well, I don't think that's a huge climb there, yeah, well, this, I mean, I think this is goes even further than that, because the, you know, he also said that after giving

up their stock pile and having it diluted down, transforming the fuel, that they would, you know, that they would not accumulate anymore. They would have a place where they could enrich uranium for, at a research university, like for research purposes, but that all of their fuel generation, all the enrichment that's intended to use uranium as fuel would be done outside the country.

I mean, these are, that's how it was going to be chasing fuel, they were shipped there

like, wow, and the Russians were turning the fuel rods and sending back, and they would keep their actual stock pile of them returning very low, but, and also, of course, there were big sticking points on the sunsets here, but Donald Trump didn't have to tear up the dang deal in 2018. He could have said, hey, listen, we have an imperfect deal.

I want to look these sunsets. I want to improve the deal. He didn't have to tear it up and do this whole, you know, maximum pressure campaign or any of this. Now he's looks like he's trying to get back into same deal and call it better.

But I mean, the, I mean, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the only four ministers believe that, and I don't, I feel like he wouldn't go out and say something like this and let's see, had some confidence in it, you know, his belief that the Iranians are open to having American inspectors on the ground and Iran. I mean, that's really something that, you know, Trump could boast about that would, the

legitimately be significant, and, you know, it's, it's very interesting, too, because after that interview, man, I don't know if you've looked at the neocons are wreaking out. I mean, you've got people saying that this is just blatant, unacceptable for an interference in our political process. How dare he go on TV and say these things, that's like Richard Goldberg, you've got Lindsey

Graham's going out there and saying, if any deal is being considered, just know that it's

going to have to go through the Senate first, of course, if Trump wants to go to war, they're

actively trying to block the law that Rokana Thomas Gassier trying to push through to make the Senate have a say in it. That's one of the craziest things about this whole scenario is that we, we literally have a situation where Congress, especially the establishment of both parties, is fighting tooth and nail for them not to have the power of having a say in whether or not we go to war.

I mean, you know, I don't know if that's ever had a war, yeah, well, demanding that Trump, while demanding that Trump, the president, take us to war and declare war himself and take the responsibility, and you're like you're saying, they're bound to fight to preclude any deal that would, you know, tend to, it's because they don't want to put their name on this, like to, you know, to the people in the establishment in Congress, like it's a win-win scenario

to them if Trump attacks a run, A, you know, their paymasters at A-pack, everywhere else, get what they want, everybody's happy on that front, and B, if it all goes to hell, and it ruins Trump's presidency and makes damn sure that JD Vance, or whoever else Marco

Rubio has no chance in 2020, it's far as Arkansas, and that's great, too.

All of these people who were cheering this on, they all hated Trump until like yesterday, they still hate his guts, you know, they're not going to be able to be changed, they all hate him, it's all transactional, you know, Lindsey Graham, the Ben Shapiro, Mark Levant,

these people were swearing, they'd never vote for Trump, they, they hate Trump's guts,

and if he ruins himself by doing this thing that they wanted to do anyway, that's just win-win for them, you know, but the thing is, get a lot of people, especially in the Democratic Party, who are under a huge amount of pressure from their donors to support this, who do not want to put their name on it, though, you know, and so I, part of me,

wonders like an, and rather worries that whatever date they said, I think it is scheduled

for next week now, a vote on Massey and Khan's bill, that that's almost a, like, a deadline for this war to start, because the Congress does not want to put their name on this thing, you know, it just needs the same image, I mean, they even tried this with the authorization

to use a force before Iraq, you know, you still, even then, when it was basically like,

yeah, it wasn't a constitutional declaration of war, like an accordance with, but it was, you know, Congress approving us going to war, like, it's what it was, and so they did that, they had that vote, but even then, they tried to be like, oh, I didn't vote for us to go to war, or all I did was vote to authorize the president to have the authority to make this decision, it's ridiculous, they tried it then, they sure as hell don't want to put their names on it now,

and, and we'll see, I mean, it's very interesting, they learned, let's believe it, right?

We're, they tried to pass an authorization to authorize the Libya war, and they couldn't get it passed, they tried to pass a thing, you know, because it's just thing to stop, and they could pass that

either, but they couldn't pass the authorization, I think that was the last time they tried, you know,

I mean, if you listen to people like Tucker who, I've spoken to him about this privately, and he's been, you know, he's on Megan Kelly last night, and then his own show recently, I mean, he spent a couple hours with Trump last week, one on a one, talking to him about this very issue, and he says, "Absid Trump does not want this war." He knows it's a potential disaster, and he doesn't want it. If that's really the case, like if that is genuinely the case,

to me, the move is obvious, just say, look, I want to vote on this, I, Rokana and Thomas Macy's bill, Republicans pass it, I want, I want your way, and I want Congress to exercise your constitutional authority and let me know here. That at least gives him political cover, if they do vote for him to do it, and if they don't, it gives him the way, it gives him the,

yeah, that's how a proper act. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's how he bail out one,

or it gives him political cover. And to me, like, if you, you know, whether or not he, he does push for that, to go through before he takes action, is really going to tell us a lot about whether he's actually serious about wanting to avoid him or not, you know, because he has an out right there on the table. Well, so that's my next question for you is, and this is just like with a Rokana too. On one hand, you have to debunk the lies about the weapon's mass destruction. On the other hand,

you have to debunk the lie that this is about weapons and mass destruction, right? That's a pretext for war. We all know they're not making nukes, and we all know they don't intend to. We all know that they know that any present, including Obama, with starting aggressive war and bomb the crap out of them, if they broke out towards a nuclear weapon, it take them at least months, maybe a year to make one. And it's something is, I think it's a safe one. That the satellite

offices of the Pentagon would know if they were breaking out toward a nuk. If they were really trying to make a nuk, any present, they've already, they've all vowed, would stop them. And their ratings note that they just have the time to do it. So that's not what this is about. The question is whether Trump is going to try hard enough to cut a reasonable deal on the nuclear program to take that fake gossous belly off the table so that they didn't have an excuse for work.

That was what Obama was doing with the JCPOA. Netanyahu back then was beaten the drum for war so hard. Obama said, man, we need extra better inspections and restricted program in all this to dial the tension down to, to take the excuse for war off the table. And so that's the choice that's before Trump here. He clearly does not have to do this at all. But if he wants a way out of it, he's got to be able to cut a deal that says, I'm satisfied with this very low level of

enrichment and expanded inspections and whatever and satisfied enough that now I don't have to do it.

The knowledge that our government believes that Iran is going to make an atom...

then use it on New York City, like Mark Levin was saying the other day, some of the speeches

have been seeing from senators and congressmen about this issue. I don't know, you know,

you've been a busy man moving this week. I don't know if you've had time, but bro, they're like, it's not only it's insulting how just effort, like how low effort the propaganda is on this. It's just insane. I mean, you literally have people marching out there.

My first way of Mark Levin, the other day, saying that Iran has nuclear missiles aimed at

American cities right now, that they're goal, that if we don't stop them right now, they will destroy Western civilization and kill hundreds of millions of people. That came out of his mouth. And you've got senators saying, I mean, just the most ridiculous things, President Trump's not trying to start not starting a war in Iran. He's trying to end the war in Iran. So just incredibly stupid stuff that shows that they have, you know, just other things

where they're talking about what Iran is actually doing that Iran is pushing hard to build a nuclear weapon right now when nobody says that. I mean, I don't think even like Israeli intelligence would

like put that out. Just like nobody can start trying that. What's the Clark pulled that on on

Dave Smith on the Pierce Morgan show the other day that like, oh, they fool the CIA into

concluding that they weren't seeking nuclear bomb back in 2007. But I believe they are,

really, and they didn't have a chance to say, then how come they don't have a giant pile of them? You know, who's been making bombs since 2007 and a little bit before that? Kim and his father before him. And they've got like upwards of a hundred out of bombs now. You see how that works? If you make atom bombs and you keep making them and making them and making them, then you acquired them. Here, Iran has been making atom bombs for 35 years and they still don't have a single one.

But yeah, and what's the cock, you know, he says that he's a Democrat. So that means that you

can really trust him since he's the opposite of these Republican militarists, man. That's consensus there. Darryl, you say how that works? Yeah. And it's, you know, this is a, the Iraq war was obviously just a war of raw aggression, a total war of choice on our part. I can at least, in that situation, say that like, well, yeah, that's all true. But, you know, we were crazy back then, you know, a year and a half after 9/11, the country was nuts. And we

were just looking for somebody's ask, okay, that doesn't justify it. But it allows you to sort of understand the head space that like somebody like George W. Bush was in at the time. This is like out of nowhere. I mean, there's enough, there was no pretext. There was nothing that happened that like suddenly we have to address this right now. There's nothing going on. They're not enriching. Nobody says they're even enriching right now because, you know,

the facilities are damaged and they haven't, like, got them, you know, up and running again. So, like, this is completely out of nowhere. And Tucker nailed it. The other day on his show. Tucker pointed, I mean, he said it perfectly. He said that it's not urgent for us. It's not urgent for anybody in the region, any of the Arabs, or anybody else in the region. It's not urgent for anybody except for Israel because they, they're looking at the polls. They understand that they

have alienated Americans irreparably. You know, that their support, the only cohort that they have support with is like Republicans over 50. And even then, it's like 56% or something. I mean, you're talking about, like, anybody under 50 and they are so underwater, it's ridiculous. And they're, you know, the fact that they've, like, the way they've responded to that, the way they've tried to deal with that through censorship and attacks and cancellation and, you know, all of these things,

it's made it so that that alienation is permanent. It doesn't matter what they do. Zoomers who don't like Israel right now are going to dislike Israel, the day they die, you know, 70 years from now, whatever. That is baked in. And they know that. And so they know, this is their last chance to use America's military to go knock off their number one enemy. So, their last chance. They have to do it now. And if it doesn't happen now, and I would even go so far as say if it doesn't

happen this week, they're probably not going to get it done. And they know them. And so, you know,

given, given Netanyahu's Messianic mindset, I mean, I think I wouldn't put desperate measures

past them right now. I mean, right up to, you know, right up to attacking Iran while they're on the phone with Trump and Trump's telling them not to do it. I mean, I think that they would, they would, you know, be that desperate. And so, yeah, I mean, you're right about their holes.

I had a great time here to show, but I haven't trouble with my John Careman.

you this poll result. I was reading for some reason, the horrible Michelle Goldberg in the New York

New York Times. Oh, I know, because it was the headline was how Israel lost America forever,

just something. And she has this poll where it just shows that they flip with America's sympathies, but the Israelis and Palestinians have flipped, and I'm sorry I forget the numbers off the top of my head, but more Americans have to know what the Palestinians and the Israelis. And by quite a bit, and the line graph was pretty severe too, and it's just the violence and the pictures on social media. Can't get over. And it's still every day. They're still killing kids every day with their

anybody on X can see it, you know. So you're right about that time crunching. They know that there's really nothing to do with that. The past from the scene, that trend is just going to accelerate and accelerate. I mean, Israel is going by the way, yeah, I was going to say Israel is on its way to being a, you know, 1970s, 1980s South Africa in terms of just pulling and how people feel about them.

That's where they're headed in the United States, which is like, you know, their eggs are all in this

basket. People talk that all they're causing up to India or whatever. It's a good luck with that. Yeah, have fun. Like they need the United States. This is an absolutely unique relationship that they cannot replicate with anyone else. You know, this period of time where they had this,

you know, this mass population. I mean, tens, tens, maybe a hundred million people in this country,

who are evangelical Christian types who just bought in to the, you know, idea that the 1948 founding of Israel was some kind of a founding, a biblical prophecy fulfillment. And so that's going away. Their support has melted away already and this is before the boomers have even really, you know, really kicked off the scene in massive numbers. And so they're going to be, you know, themselves, you know, not a 51 to 49, not a 60, 40 support for Israel is going to be a 37 year

2080 position, you know, or issue in the United States very soon. And so the clock's ticking,

you know, and they want to turn the Middle East to dust before that happens. And you know, we talked about this a little bit last week. Their goals in Iran to the extent that, you know, there are any honest hoax in the American establishment, you know, just people who aren't just in the tank for Israel, taking their money and blackmailed by them or whatever, like honest hoax, he really think that this is something we got to deal with for whatever reason. You know, their goal is not

to have Iran turning to Syria and spill out all over the region and destroy all of our other Allied Arab countries and Turkey and everything else. But that is 100% Israel's goal. Because it's a, you know, for them, it's a double win. Iran gets taken off the board and all the rest of the Muslim countries in the region have to deal with the fallout for the next who knows decades, you know? And so they really want to get that done and they really

want us to do it. Because they can't do it themselves and be, you know, it, it gives them a sort, you know, it gives them this diplomatic umbrella. I mean, this is the joke about this entire situation. Is the idea that, you know, this is but somehow at all between America and Iran, like we have a problem with Iran and we're trying to deal with that. And then there's also Israel that that is just a complete total nonsense. I mean, this is, again, the polls show 20%

of Americans think we should strike Iran. This is not even remotely a controversial issue in the United

States. Well, you know, it's funny because, you know, because they always say that, you know,

there are grace, ally, and there are unsinkable aircraft carrier over there. And then I always like to joke that like, we don't have any air force bases in Israel, right? They're not strategic asset to us. We have advanced weapon stores over there, but they always just raid them and take those weapons and kill Palestinians with them. And now for the first time, they've actually stationed F-22s in Israel to fight in service of Israel. Nobody in the world thinks that, yeah, the empire's

now putting its client state to use and it's going to have its client state go fight its war. Nope. See, other way around as it has one purpose. Only those F-22s are amazing airplanes, but they are, you know, they're, they're interceptor aircraft. And they have one purpose being, or rather, two purpose is being there in Israel. One is that they can go up into the air and help intercept incoming cruise missiles and drones and things like that. But then most likely

they're there to help clear a corridor, an air defense corridor, if they can, for incoming bombing

Runs.

they are there, I mean, what do you think about what China's doing? That's very interesting to

me, man, like, for them to be going and taking pictures of our deployed aircraft and ships

and putting them out open source on the internet. That's, that's a pretty direct, you know, confrontational act on their part. And it does show that they've got some level of serious investment in this, because they're, at the a long time before certain people in the American government get over the fact that they're doing that and whatever else they're doing behind the scenes. Yeah. So I talked to Larry Johnson today, again, for people not familiar with former CIA officer.

So in our 21, it's this website where he writes, and he does interviews and stuff all the time. You're finding him on the YouTube, Sarah Mer. Scott Wharton Show is my other show that'll be on their scene. But so one of the things that he emphasized was that there was a new tripartide pact that was saw in last month, or maybe earlier this month, between Russia, China, and Iran, where it's not like an article five word guarantee, but they pledged, you know,

material support for each other. So this is, you know, pretty ideal. So yeah, the Chinese not just, you know, posting those pictures, but passing them, he's sophisticated radars that are supposed to be able, you know, long way for eight hours. They're supposed to be able to do it.

You did text stealth. Well, we talked about that last week, but also the Russians, and I think

you mentioned this last week too. The Russians have sent them the SM Force. That's 400. Yeah. Oh, that's 400. I used to know the name of that, like a couple of days. I don't know how many of those units they've sent though. I believe it's confirmed that they've sent some. I don't know how many though. But that's, that is important. I mean, those are, and he was saying to that, he said that Alistair Crook, and I had missed this, that Alistair Crook had, you know, shown,

I don't know, but I like that guy. He's a very good guy. He was one of the very first people to talk about

CIA support for the terrorists in Syria in 2011, early 2011. So very reliability. And Johnson said that Alistair Crook had, had figured that all of the taking out of Iranian anti-aircraft in the June war, June 25 war, that that was all done by sabotage for people inside the lines, or, you know,

close quarters, you know, attacks on them rather than air strikes. And that Israeli planes,

he said, didn't even enter Iranian airspace that they took out, you know, everything they did from standoff ranges, which I didn't know about that, you know, it could be true. You know, it wasn't what was reported at the time, but I don't know. I really don't. But so it leaves open the question and look, the nature of the way that the war played out last June, obviously leaves open the question of how hard the eye it's holo with fight back, and the event that Trump

does start bombing him. You know, if you go back to the W Bush days, the Pentagon told W Bush, man, we don't want to do this for one main reason. Then we had a hundred thousand troops embedded with the Shiites fighting in Iraq. We were all going to get stabbed in the back like order 66 and revenge of the Sith if we started bombing Iran, and the leaders of the mighty army, and of the, a body brigade had all sworn that they would, you know, fight for the eye toilet.

So that was a big one, but it was also all those bases in the region, everything else is that we don't have escalation dominance here. They have too much power to fight. On the other hand,

you look at it from the eye, it's holo's point of view. Actually, America has an extremely powerful

navy and air force, and can, you know, put firepower on stationary targets, at least, would to devastating effect, and including civilian military or a part of civilian government targets, as well as military targets. So if they want to like really beat the living crap out of Iran, they can, and the Iranians know that. Now I had told in those that there's only so much they can do. And last June, they just fired a symbolic level of missiles. The same as they did

after the assassination of Soleimani. Like, here's just a little bit of an open hand slap, so that you can't say we did nothing. We're not pacifists. We've got to say the little face, but all the predictions that they're going to launch every lot of principle they have, then again, you know, that could all be right, because if the the very state itself is threatened, that is, I guess what the textbook would say that you would expect to regime to do, especially

supposedly religiously inspired revolutionary regime, they're going to absolutely fight

tooth and nail to the very end and, and after all, are right there within missile range, right?

Why not?

it's considered it's doctrine that if you were about to get your government is about to get

overrun and wiped out by an enemy, you unleash the nukes. I mean, that's like, that's considered

a legitimate response to something like, you know, that kind of a threat. If Russia ever feels like, you know, that the NATO tanks are coming through and Moscow's like going to be taken down, everybody would expect them to unleash nuclear weapons. It's what anybody could do, who has them. And so, you know, if Iran really does feel that way that, you know, it's either, you know, one of the problems is like Trump can come out and say, you know, I want to do limited

strikes or I want to do X, Y, and Z that, you know, that'll, that'll keep this thing contained. But, you know, if you're on Iran doesn't know if it's on day two of a three-day limited strike package. Or if it's on day two of a three-week devastating strike package that's going to wipe them out, you know, they don't know. And so you run into that same, the same problem that

nuclear power is always game out, which is you get into a user to lose its scenario, you know,

and he just was to sit there and like wait until their missiles get blown up and their bunkers and just that's it or do we just use them, you know, and try to, because I mean, the other thing is, too, you know, if you listen like JD Vance or example, I thought this was very hard to understand. I mean, I understand that he, I get that he's trying to delay domestic concerns about this, but, you know, he went out and said that there is zero possibility that this will become

some kind of a protracted conflict. There's no possibility that that's going to happen. And I get it, he wants to, again, delay concerns, but you're also sending a message to the Iranians, that, you know, we understand the political situation here in our own country. It's not in favor of this going on. And so the Iranians, like they have no reason, you know, to buckle once the shooting

starts, like they have every reason to believe that as long as they hit back and, you know,

maybe avoid doing something like sinking a carrier that really might just sort of, you know, put Trump into a corner where he feels like he has to go all in or something like that, because I don't think there's a lot of people think that, you know, if they sink a carrier or something, that we're going to limp away and call it quits, that is not going to happen. And so, as those things are really hard to sink, I saw them do, they were throwing away an old one

yeah, yeah, possible to freaking sink, bro. Like, that's one thing, a lot, in fact, all of our modern ships, like they're incredibly difficult to sink. We had this like older, not even one of the DDGs, one of the DD's, the old Spruins class ones that we were testing out. We decommissioned it, and so we were testing out a bunch of our weapons on it. We hit it with the five-inch guns, we hit it with a couple of hard-proof missiles, we finally had to, we hit it with a couple of torpedoes,

still wouldn't go down. We literally had to send us EOD squad onto the ship to plant explosives, like they were blowing up a building to sink that thing. And so these things are well engineered, they're very hard to sink in carriers of the hardest thing to sink of all, incredibly difficult.

Well, with that fact said, we've never had anything any ship hit with a hypersonic missile before,

which has a completely different means of sort of dealing damage, you know, like a lot of hypersonic, don't even have explosives in the warhead. It's just the pure speed of the thing coming in, it's like a comet hitting you, and that's where all force comes from. And so we don't exactly know what happened there, but they're very hard to sink. And you know, yeah, it would be, it would be very surprising to me and probably to everybody if the Iranians just took some shots

and didn't, and didn't escalate just for all the reasons that we just laid out. And it's interesting because, you know, again, if you listen, after, after we get off this, you got to watch the interview with the Omani Foreign Minister. It's only 20 minutes, and he is almost begging Trump, give us a couple more days. Like we have a deal in hand right now, that he believes both sides are, essentially, they need like another couple of days.

That, and this thing can be done. And, you know, to not, but to not give him those couple days, like we agreed to have this guy mediate this dispute, you know, and when you do something like that, like there's certain obligations that come with that, you know, like if everybody's seen like a

movie or a show, whether it's like two gangs that are at war with each other, and they both go to a third

gang, and they, you know, he agrees to sort of, you know, pick a neutral territory and mediate, you know, a parlay. And if one side shows up and ambushes the other side and starts shooting,

Everybody knows, that's the bad guy, you know, because not only have you, hav...

just dishonorable to the, to the enemy, but you've disrespected this third party who agreed to,

like, put his name on the line for you, you know. And so when he's there, basically begging you

for just a couple more days, if you don't give it to him, after watching that interview, him outlining what the Iranians are prepared to give up, and him essentially just begging for another couple days to hammer out the last bit of detail. To me, it just shows there that this whole thing was just a ruse again to get our bias time to get our assets in place. I mean, that that's it. And, and, you know, look, this, this, this, this, this, the tantrum conflict is so much a war of just sort of

whim. It's not even like a war of choice makes it sound like, you know, that's not strong enough. It's like a war of whim, you know, it's just something that somebody woke up one day and decided to do. It was absolutely no event that served as a pretext for it. But if we do attack the Iran, any American that gets killed on a ship and an aircraft at a base, any American that gets killed will have been murdered by Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu period. On the other hand,

if Trump manages to avoid this somehow, if again, that is his actual desire, if that happens,

then I know a lot of people out there, including myself, who have been extremely critical of him,

we've got to give him credit for that and back when the backlash comes because the neocons are going to go scorched Earth on him. And, you know, this is one of the, one of the things that I was talking to somebody who's a right wing hardcore critic of Trump. And I was, I was making this case to him and I was saying, like, look, man, like, comes transactional guy. He probably is not under any illusion about the fact that people like Lindsey Graham and Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro,

hey, his guts. But the way he looks at it is, if I do it, they want, they'll support me. If I don't do it, they want, they won't support me. If your position is, if Trump does what you want, you won't support him anyway, screw him. Why, why should he listen? Why should he care? I mean,

you'd be like, oh, you should just do the right thing. But he said, yeah, but he's evaluation above

everything else. So that's, yeah, man, and look, he ran in one on this twice. And, you know, he clearly desperately wants a Nobel Peace Prize and all these things. He wants me known as a great peacemaker. Now, it's a lot easier. Like, we're talking about the Congress, you know, the way they push and pull. It's a lot easier to be a great warlord and come to rural Washington, DC, take the country to war. They'll love you, you know. That was what the Democrats stood up and

clap for at the state of the union. It was when he threatened Iran, you know. Just like it, just like it, both in general, people want the people want peace, you know. I mean, Bush and Cheney, those wars are universally agreed to have been complete and total disasters, total waste of money, waste of life, waste of time, everything, total disasters. That where everybody agrees were sold to us on lies. Everybody knows that now, right, left and center.

And yet, Bush is still, you know, they he's back. He's one of the boys. He's like, he's cool. You know, he's hanging out with the Obama's and Nancy Plot whatever, you know. And so like, it really does just go to show you. And so, you know, I've heard from people who have not steered me wrong in the past who are very connected that this thing is all but decided, and it's just a matter of timing at this point when we go. But I don't know, man, I have to

like at least, I have to retain just like a tiny, tiny, tiny bit of optimism, just because, you know, yeah. There's no question that he told the military, get ready. If I tell you to go, be ready to go. That is a fact. You know, no question about that.

But I think that Tucker's right that he's not decided yet. He probably won't decide until it's

actually the order to go. I don't think he's going to decide and then give the order to go in a few days. I think he could change his mind up to the last minute. And I think public pressure matters a lot. You know, you'd like to see in all of that stuff. And I don't think it's too late. You know, there were people who said in August of 13 while we're going to invade Syria for okay to now. And there's no way to stop it. But people rallied against it. And I mean, I'll credit

to bright part at that time. They were like the headquarters of all things like right wing media at that time. And they railed against that thing. And all the Republicans called their congressman said, I'm not following Barack Obama into battle for okay to disagree. I'm just

not going to view vote for this. We'll never forgive you. You know, and that was it. You know,

the entire Republican right refused to support that work. And Israel wanted it bad. There's just

Wasn't enough compared to the phone.

not. And, you know, especially, you know, the Tucker tactic of saying, look, you know, I support you

but I'll do this. That's the right way to do it. You know, that your ace are the ones who are

opposed to this. As you said, the people like Lindsey Graham and and Mark Leven, who always hated

him because they saw him as unreliable on this issue. They're the ones who are fair weather friends and all of that thing that they can use him and exploit him this way. You know, so I don't know what Tucker told him, but I'm sure I know he tried. I mean, man, I saw his monologue. He did that great monologue and an interview on Wednesday all about this. And so he must have really, you know, told him everything he needed to hear there. But I would say, like, people should call that White House

comment line. It's, you know, I don't know if they don't take calls on the weekends and all. But certainly on Monday, if it hasn't started by then, people should just call and say, in a positive way, we support Jared Kushner's negotiations here. You know, that's, you're doing the brave thing by negotiating a peaceful resolution. That's the Trump we want, Trump the peace price winner. You know, I didn't tell you, I inherited. Tucker and I were texting

back and forth with each other when he was in his car in the car leaving the White House. Like, oh, yeah, that fresh. And we were texting back and forth for a lot of the rest of the day. He left that meeting convinced that Trump does not want this. That he wants a way out of this. But that he is under extraordinary pressure even more than, you know, having Lindsey Graham give a mean speech about you on the floor of Congress kind of saying that that, you know, he's trying to figure

out, I mean, like, you know, in part of the part of the thing is to, you know, all the big build-up of

forces. I mean, I think the leaks that we've heard are probably true that Trump really did think

that this would just get the Iranians to buckle. And that that was the hope and the plan was to do that. But once they didn't, it's like, okay, well, now you kind of made your bed a little bit. Because now unless you can come away with a deal that is significantly better than, you know, it has something in it that you can point to a significantly better than the JCPOA. Then, you know, Mark Levins is going to call you a coward and say you're slinking away from reality territory, but.

And so, you know, but there's another meeting scheduled on Monday, which, you know, after last June, it's hard to put any stock in this kind of stuff after the way we handle the outbreak of that war. But there is another meeting scheduled on Monday. And as of now, Rubio is still scheduled

to go to Israel, second and third of March, which is Monday Tuesday. And I kind of doubt they're

going to start shooting missiles at Iran and inviting retaliation when the Secretary of State's

in Tel Aviv or Jerusalem. So who knows? Maybe that's a, you know, maybe that gets canceled, the, you know, the moment the days he's supposed to leave or whatever. I will say this, like the inner schizo and me comes out a little bit on this. I, you know, I was, I was poking around in like some of the dark corners in the internet and like all the stuff is through. This is doesn't necessarily matter to anybody in the American system, but it does matter to some people.

You know, Rubio's going there on the second, third of March, which coincides with Perum, which is the Jewish holiday celebrating the massacre of 75,000 Persians in the book of Esther. Oh, God. It just happens to be a blood moon that night. You know, and you have like your book of revelation sent when it's the revelation six 12 sand that the moon shall become as blood, you know, in the final days. And then this is even

crazy. You're crash call your office, please. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I got an even better one for him.

It the blood moon. This is on March, third, three, three, he except three, 33 AM. Oh. And yeah,

and three is an incredibly significant number in Cabala. And this is, this is the like the icing on the cake. And everybody can look all this up. This is all true. The number three in Cabala represents, it's a highly significant number that represents a third party or third element coming in and ending a conflict between one and two. Yeah, I'm sorry that Marco Rubio, see the lamb of God in the great book is Marco Rubio, not David Carrash. It's a little on the note. It's a great problem with the,

you know, what that's as plausible a theory I've ever heard about Marco Rubio is as any. All right, let's change the subject to a different war. Pakistan going to war with Afghanistan. Now,

I know and that one at the ISI put Taliban in power in the first place with B...

back in 1996 and the answer is yes, of course. But, and then you're saying, but that whole time from like

at least 2005 through the end of the war, Pakistan was back in the Afghan Taliban against the United

States. They're right as a hedge against Indian support for the Tajiks and the Uzbeks and the Khazaris and the regime that America built in Kabul and you'd be right about that too. But now, the Pakistani said that the Afghan Taliban are one giving, say they then to the Pakistani Tariki Taliban inside Afghanistan who are still attacking Pakistani government targets and they're in league with the Indians who are maintaining their influence that America, you know, bought for them back when. And it seems like it's

mostly small skirmishes, but there's been some air strikes now on Afghan Taliban targets starting

Qatar and in in in Kabul, they showed in the New York Times here they had some pictures of

some destroyed buildings to see. Where did it go? Well, maybe it's something else I was looking at that had where there had been some air strikes that had taken out some some arm steep boats and

things like this. So, you know, one side has nukes, I doubt they'll use them, but I wonder if the

the Pakistan's are regretting all that time that they spent stabbing America in the back back in the Afghan Taliban against our guys there. And now they don't like them and are dealing with this. So, that's another potential very tough war, you know, hopefully they'll, so I'm going to pick up the phone and help to negotiate something there. You got anything for us in this. I saw that the Saudis who have a mutual defense pack with the Pakistanis now said that they're

ready and willing to send aircraft to support Pakistan if needed. And I listened to an interview with the Pakistani, I want to say it was the of the Foreign Minister today on Al Jazeera and man, it's so crazy. Like, when you listen to like, when you listen to the world leaders that really,

really hate each other, it's kind of jarring, you know, because everybody always kind of like

couches their terms, like, you know, at least like when they're like not on Fox news or something

like that, like if they're on international like stage, they couch it in some kind of, you know, I mean, he was just, he was just like, talking about, there's not an honest Indian in the world that we can talk to. And they're in Afghanistan directing all of this. And, you know, it's no coincidence that this all kicked off right after Modi visited Israel because all part of one larger plan to distract and harm Pakistan, like, well, this is going on. I mean, it was, it was pretty wild. And

kind of refreshing, I guess, to hear somebody who actually says what he thinks on, you know, with that level of directness, but I mean, it doesn't seem like this could really turn into anything particularly, particularly destructive, like at the scale of, you know, like say it, a war with a round or something, just because the Taliban doesn't have the kind of combat power as far as I know. I mean, I did see some videos. They were, they clearly learned to use some of the equipment

we left them. But, you know, a lot of that equipment is, once you start using it, it starts to break down. And once it starts to break down, you need repair parts that they don't have and they can't make. So, I mean, yeah, I don't know. It was, it was surprising, though, to me. I didn't see it coming. I didn't realize that, I mean, look, the, the Pakistani Taliban, that's a nasty, nasty bunch. And I mean, they've had these skirmishes going on for months. I interviewed a guy about it.

And Afghan living in the Netherlands or something, had me on his show and then I interviewed him. And he was explaining all this a couple of months back. I'm sorry if we get the guy's name. But, do what about that article? I sent you about Ukraine in the Daily Mail. Yeah. So, we have that here. Now, and I have another one on Ukraine to talk about, too. And we're almost at the top of the hour. And then we need to at least take a couple of super

chats for our friends here. Thank you, everybody, for tuning in. By the way, good to have you like and subscribe and all of that stuff. You want to tell us about this piece in the Daily Mail here, Richard Pendelberry, after four years of covering this horror, I'd bad dreams, so I can go back home. And I feel we're on the brink of a greater disaster, which we are wholly unprepared. I mean, I mean, it's higher. I'm not the war between Russia and Ukraine.

Yeah. So, when I sent this in a text message in a group chat to you and Dave Smith, Dave responded that he's going to go listen to a murder made podcast now to have something like light and refreshing to like clear his mind. It is so dark, man. Like, you know, that he's talking about in there, how Ukrainian soldiers are like that he either witnessed or gotten direct stories from

People that they're cutting off body parts of their dead comrades in order to...

that this person was killed so that that guy's family can get compensation from the Ukrainian government. That one guy cut off his friend's head because he was trapped under a bunch of rubble and he couldn't get the body out, so he cut the guy's head off so that his mother could give her son a Christian burial. That's where we're at with this this damn war, man. And I don't want to like, I know my grandma occasionally peeks into this, so I don't want to swear, but man,

just anybody remotely associated with this catastrophe, they're going to have a lot to answer for one day, even if it's not while they're here on earth, because what a freaking nightmare. I mean,

just a total, they just had another exchange of bodies. So ridiculous, like you always hear all this,

there was somebody the other day. It was an actual, I don't know, I can't remember who was a

foreign policy analyst or a government official, but somebody who is a well-known person was talking about how the Russians are losing 40,000 people a month, and they just can't sustain this much longer. This was like this week they were saying this, well, they just had an exchange of bodies, exchange of remains, so people could get their, you know, their sons back in barium. And the ratio is just insane, like over the last year, the Russians have given the Ukrainians like

17,000 bodies and the Ukrainians have given the Russians, like literally like 500, 600 or something like that.

And so like the casualty ratios are clearly insanely against the Ukrainians, you know,

just every day, more and more of these videos come out of wives trying to defend their husbands, who were getting yoked up on the street, so to be sent to the front line of people trying to fight these damages, this is a slave war, essentially. I mean, this is like a, you know, not to say there's not still motivated, like, you know, Ukrainian nationalists who were out there fighting, and obviously the ones who were going around around and people up must be, you know, into its somehow,

but, you know, when you're, when you're reduced to that level, when you're going out and having to physically subdue people and throw them into the back of a van so that you can go given three days of basic rifle training and send them to the front line, that's a slave war, you know, that's like an old school like slave army and it's so disgusting. And now we've got, I mean, we've got the word now that, you know, the Russians came out and said that they've got

intelligence that the French and British are, you know, talking about providing nuclear weapons to Ukraine, which, I mean, you know, on one level, it's like, I guess you can't be surprised about anything anymore these days, but man, like, are they that crazy? Are they really that insane? I don't know, I really don't need more. No, I don't think so, man, that would be absolutely the end of the non-proliferation treaty. And just, I don't know, man, I mean, I hate to argue that cooler heads will

prevail, but that's a kind of thing. It's just so completely stupid. Look, there's one more on Ukraine here, real quick. I want to share with you. Sure, this happens, Dad. This is Andrew Blitzky, who is, you know,

I'm always picking on him because he's a Hitler loving Nazi. He's a nice Vermont liberal, right?

Very anti-war kind of calm, cool-headed guy. So he's the leader of, was the Patriot of Ukraine gang, part of the social national assembly directly descended from the OUNUPA that sort of the Nazis in the Second World War. And anyway, so he's the founder of the Azob Battalion, later the Azob Brigade, and then now it became the third separate infantry division and then also split the 12 special operations division of the National Guard. But he leads the third separate infantry division,

which is now in Christen III Army Corps. He's one of the most important army generals in the war,

and it's probably, you know, fourth or fifth place for vying for power to be the chief executive in the future here. An extremely dangerous guy, and he's author, you can read on anti-war.com. I repurned his whole speech on the blog there, "Racial Social Nationalism," which is a pretty

lunatic Nazi-clap trap type stuff. Anyway, so point being, he's an extremely important general in

this war now promoted to general, and he says, "Listen, what we have to do is, we have to whip up on the Russians real good and get this to a stalemate." Right now the Russians are winning. But if we can get him to a stalemate, then we can negotiate, not from our position as strength, but from a position of stalemate, at least, from a position of having halted their advances. Then negotiate. So this is as far to the Nationalist's right as you get there, and he's essentially

saying, "Yeah, we'd lost and we're losing this much of all of Lohansk, and at least virtually all

Of Dunyetsk for fifths of it or so, plus the third or so of suppression and c...

lost, and who knows exactly what he has in mind there? They don't really say in this article.

I thought it's worth pointing out here. I'm finally just in the here's some news. I'm finally

finished recording the audiobook. I still have a lot of editing to do. I finally finished recording the audiobook of "Probot." And there's a lot of it in the coverage of the war in that book where

I've talked about Biden and Zelensky government officials admitting all along that they're never

going to get Crimea back and that they're never going to get the Donbass back, and it's going to be a matter of negotiations. The only is, only question is when, and can we get in position as strength before we deal, and all of these things? And so here it is, four years later, of just steadily losing, more and more in more territory. And here, he's still saying we shouldn't deal now. He's saying that they got us somehow, you know, halt the Russian advances before they can deal. But anyway,

my point is just to me, it's a major concession from even the furthest right military leadership in that country that, like, look, daydreams are fun and everything. But we lost the war. We're going to lie about casualty numbers all we want. Doesn't make them true. Doesn't change the reality on the ground. So, might help with American weapons flows, but doesn't change the reality of their manpower. So, I just thought it's worth pointing out

that in college confirmation by us, if you want, Scott Horton sights the Nazi he hates, when he agrees with the same assessment, but fine. There you have it. Even, Andrea Blitzky

admits that all romantic visions of Ukraine aside, the reality is the Russians have taken back and

over Russia. That's it. And the Donbass. And so, that sucks for you, but it is what it is. And I don't like dishonesty, and especially young things like this. So, there's that now. Let's take a break, real quick here. And just, let me tell you about Matt Cersely. He's a lawyer, not an accountant. He's a lawyer. And his thing is, he knows you're trying to run a business. And then you're trying

to not give all your money to a government. And so, what you should do is you should hire him so

he can help you pay them as absolutely little as possible. Because they are the state and they are the enemy. They should be starved from all revenue. And you should spend that money on your own family instead. Or, you know, reinvesting it in your own business to make it better. So, you call Matt Cersely. He's not here to help you cheat. He's here to help you stay exactly within the letter of the law and protect your assets. So, do that. And then also, check out this,

man. This is my gigantic project. It's a huge success to Scott Horton Academy and get positive feedback from it all the time. I had spent a lot of years studying Middle East and Eastern Europe and I wrote some books about it and stuff. And here's me giving courses so that you guys can catch up with all of my anti-war stuff that I learned and how it all works and including a lot of stuff. So, check that out at Scott Horton Academy.com. And then, now, Mr. Darrell, let's look at the

comments, see if we can do some super chats before we get out of here. And I do have to get out of here.

I got some, and I make one quick request. You do whatever you want. Yeah. So, I think we're at the

point now where, when we're talking about somebody like Andre Boletskin is like racial, social, national party, things like that. Instead of calling it Nazi clap trap, I think we're at the point now. We can start referring it to Zionist clap trap. How about that? Oh, there you go. Thank you. I like that. They have a lot of things in common, those guys. Hardcover for provotes. Yes. Good question. So, here's the answer to that.

As I'm going through the audio book, oh my god. I've found 10,000 errors in there. I mean, I call Zelensky Booten or whatever. I mean, I just absolute misstatements and typos and just idiot, oh my god. If I hang myself, don't think, oh, it was the CIA conspiracy. It was just the pros. I'm not a writer. I'm a radio guy. Anyway, yes, I have made 10,000 corrections. Now, I'm going to read it through one last time. And then I am going to put out a hardback version. I'm

also working on that is I got a buddy working on a hardback version of the knuffle ready with all

the footnotes put in it, which I left out the first time because I was in such a dang hurry. So,

we're going to have the hardback version that. And then I'm going to fix all typos and update a little bit and put out a hardback version of fools air and two if I can. Sometime this year for those things. And oh, sorry, I should have put that on the screen. Someone actually asked that. Yes, I'm working on that fear and loathing as a book. You know, Darrell, we had talked about writing a book about Palestine at one point and I do have an outline for it. Huh? Yeah, I like your idea for

how it might be structured, almost as like a Q&A type thing. But fear and loathing is like, if I were to try to just transform that podcast in a book, the difficult part is, I mean,

It's so derivative of existing, you know, existing works that I would just, I...

very self-conscious about putting it out there as a book. Doing it as a podcast a little bit different because I think people think of them differently and just for my part, you know, I look at it as something that I'm very openly sharing other people's work with you. But yeah, I don't know.

I've had some offers from various publishers about that and stuff and I just have always been

just a little too self-conscious about it, I guess. Yeah. So what we had talked about was we would take like all the, all the bogus cliches that the Zionists use. We have no partner for peace. They love it when we kill their children more than we don't love killing their children or whatever gold of my ear crap, you know, that they come up with all this husband or a slogan. And then we would go through and explain why those slogans are a bunch of crap. Why none of them

are true. And that's why they rely on these catchy and catchy little things to get people to repeat,

you know, to basically shut people's minds off. So you stop arguing and you just repeat the little cliché. So I thought we could do some damage with that. I just had to write one book one

most. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I just, I hate writing books, man. And I always just overdo it. And I just

and I hate Israel. I don't want to write a book about Israel. And in fact, I think we had even decided then, you know, we could do, we could still just hate Israel and front of people and through other mediums and not write a book, man. Writing books sucks, dude. Maybe someday, I don't know. I'm changing this subject now. I don't want to think about writing a book anymore. Some worst part of my life. Libertarian Overwatch. I forget this guy's name. It was a unique

name. But we got to make friends this guy. You got to subscribe to his sub-stecker. He's really great.

He has been putting out serial type deal there like every Wednesday on the color code of

revolutions. And you know, I was really, really thorough on all of them in a provoked. Well, he's even more thorough. He goes all the way back. He does Slovakia and Albania and Croatia. And of course, Serbia. And then now he's getting into, he did the rose revolution. Now he's doing the orange revolution part one and two. And it's just fantastic. Absolutely fantastic stuff on the foundation for defense of democracy. USAID, George Soros, and the not Iraq war, but all the rest of the regime

change industry going on in Europe. You know, in the Clinton and W Bush years there. So far, I move forward. It's really, really great stuff. Libertarian Overwatch. He's called on some stack. And so a very good stuff there. Happy to recommend. And those are just fascinating. The color code of revolutions and how they got away with it all and everything. So much great stuff. All right. Thank you guys. I mean, a region coming out loud and getting gave us $1.

Hey, this guy says, oh, it's Derek Wheeler. We're publishing Derek Wheeler's book. Did you know that? Oh, it's so good. He was like, man, he thinks he could maybe publish the book. And I said, I'll tell you what. Don't give me rough draft. Get that thing all the way cooked for being and send it on. Let's take a look. Oh, my God. It's so good. It's better than my book. He knows all this stuff. And I don't even know. And it's all in there. And it's all really good. And it makes me

is one of those books that where I go, oh, man, I didn't know that. That should be in my book. And now it's too late. Oh, no. Brilliant genius. Brilliant book. And it's coming out very soon. Like before the summer, sometime it takes a little while to get these things in process here at the Institute, but we publish books at the Institute. And Derek Wheeler's this great. Now he says here, oh, Senator Kennedy says, I told us going to drink American blood from a boot. I'm not sure if that's

hyperbole or not. I really like that guy some of the time that Senator John Kennedy he makes me laugh when he picks on these liberal judges and stuff. But I hate to hear that he's such a tool. Hey, get this. So my congressman is, oh, it's on the tip of my tongue. Whatever, plain old Texas wants to be guy. But guess who's running against them? He's, I want to say it's

John Conley. But that's the governor almost got shot. No, but guess who's running against them?

It's the sham wow guy. Oh, yeah, that's your congressman. Nice. He's running in the primary.

And his name is, his name, his first name, his name is Offer Schloamy. And he's from Israel.

And I'm like, oh, it's John Carter. I want to say Conley for some of John Carter is my congressman. Cookie Carter Republican, you know, probably bat this type, you know, whatever, plenty of Zionists playing. He's on the defensive appropriations committee. And he doesn't cause trouble, Darrell. He's, he's one of the guys. But nope, not go to enough, man. They're, they're bringing in Offer Schloamy who beat up a hooker. It's the runco guys still around. Maybe

we can get him to jump in. Yeah. Seriously, man. All right. So this guy, get this. Did you know

This, Wesley Clark in the files, sucking up to Jeffrey Epstein asking for money.

Is that true? Well, I believe you because you gave us five bucks in this point. If you're over 50

and involved in politics and even a tangential way, I'm surprised if you're not in there. It seems

like that guy was so connected that I mean, he had his hands on everybody. Yeah, that tell you, I had a dream that the other Scott Wharton was in there and everybody was mad at me. And I was trying to convince them that I know it's not me. And then in the morning and they didn't believe me.

But in the morning, I went and checked, but neither of us are in there. So that's good. Obviously,

I'm not that. He's, you know, a law professor and things. He's a New York City guy. He, he could

have, you know, but he's not in there. Was Israel's long-term plan. Do they think they can hold

all their neighbors and chaos permanently, even if they lose American support? I mean, I guess, you know, worms are in a clean break. Or maybe it's in coping. He doesn't exactly say, we should smash all these countries into their smallest tribal warring factions. But he does say, you know, these states are all very artificial. And they really are made up of these smaller, warring tribal factions. You know, he's, his sustenance kind of. And so yeah, that's the deal.

What is the clean break? The clean break is the clean break from Oslo. The clean break is, since the Netanyahu fan murdered Yatsakra Bean, we don't have to do his two-state solution deal.

Forget it. Which was always a half-assed two-state solution deal. But they said,

we're not even doing that. We don't have to do anymore. What we'll do is we'll just have peace through total dominance over our neighbors. And so that was the doctrine. So. And then, as we've talked about before, you know, it's part and parcel of Zionism on one hands, very contradictory, right? Is they need American support? On the other hand, they need the narrative that everyone in the whole world hates you just for being Jewish. And it's a good

thing we're here to protect you. And that, of course, that's what all states tell their people.

But the Israeli state is, you know, they pushed that stuff. Really are that kind of paranoia. They like saying the whole world is against us. And that's what's good about us. That's what proves how right we are. Is that everybody disapproves? They're just jealous of how awesome we're. Like they Louis C. K. But where is the girls? Oh, he's just upset because he can't deal with how awesome you are, dude. Again, are you sure that's what it is? It just can't deal with how awesome.

All right. Anyway, man, we might have run out of super chats here, Mr. Cook. You want to wrap up for us here? Oh, putting me on the spot. Yeah. Thanks, everybody. Bye. Coffee with Scott Horton's name on it. Go visit the Marta Made Substack. And have a great week. Hopefully, when we talk you next time, there will not be smoldering ruins on all sides of the Middle East. [Music]

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