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Whether you're up late or you're just starting your day, welcome to the show from the Relief Factor Studios. This is Red Eye Radio. Look across America, we are Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Hurley and I'm Gary McNamara. Welcome and good morning. Oh, this thought just popped into my head as we're talking about,
you know, where we're going politically and everything else and what might happen. In November, then where you go from that point on, this just happened this week. And I started thinking about it more, you know, Bernie Sanders talking about the billionaire's tax. And the rich don't pay enough. And I thought this week, I'm like,
this might change the way the public looks at it. And I know this, some of you this is stupid commentary, but sometimes it's pop culture that can change the political narrative. Yeah, and this was the baseball player, I can't think of his name right now, the place for Arizona, and he turned down the offer from San Diego.
And he's not going to go. Why is he going to go? What was the reasoning? And it was taxes.
“It's like two and a half percent is a flat rate income tax in Arizona.”
Yeah, it's 13 and a half there. And you and I sort of figured out, you know, as we did, this started a long time ago when we, when Phil Nicholson, oh, my gosh, the left, when crazy in him. Man, this is way before he joined live. Right.
Yeah, it started becoming demonized for that. This is way back. He didn't just leave California. He left the country. This, this is way back when everybody liked Phil.
Yeah. But he talked about the fact that he was sinking and moving to Florida. Yeah. For the taxes, because he getting killed. Yeah.
And it was like you and titled, the left went crazy at him. Gosh.
“And remember, I think that was at the same time.”
He was trying to become a minority partner in the San Diego in the municipality. Yeah, there was some, some move there and, and you broke it down at that. I think it was a few times that we broke it down of the, the tax savings alone. What it would mean.
And I think, and I'm doing this from memory. It could be off. But, but the example would be right if you were making this amount of money. And we were saying, for example, I believe, not, you know, not just because of us getting drowned in endorsements at that time.
Yeah. And we said, OK, let's say he's making, I think we went at the low end.
I think we went like 70 or 80 million a year.
Yeah. And I think I'm going to have been more than that at the time. But we just said hypothetically, let's just, you know, take, let's say it's 80, 80 million a year. And you make that for 10 years. Yeah.
Okay. Well, in that time, a 10% or a 10 and a half, no, no, I'm sorry. I've got to make sure I'm talking about Florida with a zero, 13 and a half. Yeah, 13 and a half. Right.
So he'd be paying 10 million a year. And that would be 100 million over the period of 10 years. Right. Well, I don't care who you are. You know, in any sport, you know, your, your time of being popular is limited or being good.
Yeah, your earnings years are going to be limited. Now, he might have been the exception.
In fact, I've always wondered, you know, he took the deal from live because it made so much money.
And I always thought to myself, I always thought, was that actually a good idea. Forget about ties to Saudi Arabia and the controversy. You've been just money itself. Right. Well, if he was making, I don't know, because back then they're not paying what they pay now.
If he was making 10 million a year in golf, 5 to 10 million a year back then, you know, it was, you know, 50, 60, 70 million, 80 million from endorsements. Oh, yeah. And whatever he signed for live, I don't see fill doing any endorsements anymore. Nothing.
No, I, no, I haven't seen it. He used to do that prescription. Yeah. Arthur, right as I said, remember that. That was all over the place.
That was a heavy campaign. But you, you don't see him on anything.
And I always wondered, is that the smart move?
Everybody loves you.
This is Saudi Arabia.
Yeah. You know, no matter what you want to think and that was at the time of the Crown Prince. And the, the murder of the, the journalist, the American journalist. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Exactly. And so it was like,
“I always wondered, did he really look at the money?”
Because I don't believe a film Nicholson would have stayed here. That he would have lost the endorsements. You know, the endorsements all came back for tigers? No, I, I, I think, I think there's he's, he's one of the exceptional, the exception to the rule that once you're playing years or none, even.
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You don't see Michael Jordan out there, but his shoes, of course, the Air Jordan's, you
know, that's something that's just going to keep always making him wealth and
wealth. But you see certain celebrities, and there's only a handful of them. That can go beyond their earnings years in their field, in whatever the sport they're playing, and do endorsements for the longest time. And so we remember when he said that, you know, and it could have been, and we said,
look, we're not trying to be exact on, we're just telling you the ratio that if he was making 80 million over a period of years, 10 years, that would be $100 million he doesn't have. And remember, that's direct cash, because it's already been taxed. Right.
You know, that's money you get refunded back to you, it's not going to increase your federal tax. Right. You don't have to pay double on it, well, you may have to pay a well tax in California.
And so if he was making half, if he was only making 40 million a year endorsements
and 10 million a year, 10 million off golf, it still would have been $50 million. Right. Over the period of that time. I'm sorry, nobody throws away $50 million. But what happened was, you know, it's, at the end of the national hockey league trend
day, trade deadline is today. And this was just watching all these people I know, sports people in Buffalo and everything
“else, because Buffalo right now, the savers, since I think December, have the best record”
in the NHL. From last place and now they're tied for first as of last night. And they have the best record. I mean, it's like the worst team, all of a sudden, the spark, no new players, nothing really changed.
The spark just lit and boom. And so now that, you know, they want to make a push into the playoffs, the trade deadline is tomorrow, they're trying to get a great player, you know, who's, you know, from one of the teams that aren't doing so well this year and get that player because that, that new team may be saying, we need to rebuild completely.
So even those players have been valuable, they're a little bit older, but you can have them for a couple of years, but we want to go in a different direction. Well, they tried to get, I think, two different players from St. Louis. And the one said that it came out that, well, no, I, in the contract, it was, I get to next to any trade in his contract, he doesn't have to go.
Right. And so he said, no, I don't want to go, but if there's another city out there, I might consider it.
“And boom, that started it online going, is he not coming because of New York State taxes?”
And it was funny, because some of my friends were starting to figuring that one out. Right. They went, well, look, if he's making this amount of year, and I think it was like, somebody
said six million, somebody said eight million.
Right. And it got into an interesting discussion. And then I said, I went, well, guys, I'll do it for you. If it's eight million, and the difference is between, I think it's 10.9% in New York. And it's, I think, 4.7% on the higher level in Missouri.
I figured out it was like rounding about if that was what he was making 500,0...
but over the period of the four, four years and a few months left in the contract, that
would end up being $2.5 million more a year.
Right.
“Well, who wants to be traded to make $2.5 million less over the period of the contract?”
If that's the reason. But I can't tell you that was the reason specifically, but the fact is when he said, well, I'll play for another city, whether the hottest team in the NHL right now. And, you know, will they win the Stanley Cup? I have no idea, but do they have a chance of going deep into the playoffs?
Yes, and would he have helped them as a player go further? Yes, it's a kind of situation you normally would want to go into as a player, especially a team that's just, you know, popped as a really great team.
It's what you would want, did he refuse it because of taxes?
And whether it's true or not, it's the fact that that discussion was all over people. So I knew that love buffalo sports and it is a tax killing us and I'm thinking to myself, wow, it's going to kill higher taxes in in these liberal states. Yeah. This is the fact that we can't get the big free agents anymore.
They don't want to come here because of taxes. No, think about that and if you can't build a team, you know, that's a big deal.
“Well, you might be able to build a team because the draft you have to go.”
But when they enter free agency, you know, where are they going to want to go or if there's a trade, if there's, if they're going to trade you, do you actually want to go? And you start looking at it because we look at it, go, well, all those millionaires doesn't matter whether you're angry at them for doing it, economics, people are going to do what's in their best self-interest.
Yeah. And that's what economics is. So you think about it if you're drafted, then you do set as a showcase if you end up in a, you know, on a team or in a state that's, that's high taxed and, but then all of a sudden, you get to make your own decisions for instance, but my point is not even the
super rich players, but like for the, in the NFL, for example, the defensive back and again, going to the Buffalo Bill's Jordan Poir seems like a really decent guy seems like he's conservative. And he was at the bills a couple of years ago and basically became a free agent. He went to Miami.
“I think for a year or two, I can over a year or two, but he talked about, well, I want”
to go there because I can make more money, if I make the same there, I make more money because there's no income tax. So, and I'm thinking he's not a player that's, he's not a quarterback making, I don't
know whether they're making now 30 40, I think quarterbacks are up to 40 million a year.
Yeah. So if a player's just making three or four million and remember everything that comes off the top of that three or four million taxes, agents, you know, whatever else comes out of it, so if you're making, let's say you're making two million a year, you're ending up getting maybe 800,000, you know, after taxes and everything else.
But if the tax base means you can make another 100,000, if you know that you're limited because in the NFL, it's only four years, 100,000 a year for four years is a huge deal to you. My guy I graduated high school with Marvin Allen is assistant GM at Miami and before that he was at Buffalo and it was kind of a player, relations kind of job, but he's done
recruiting. He's worked for many things, the Chiefs, I worked in Atlanta, he played for the Patriots when he graduated from Tulane in 88, for four years as a running back, but then since then has made a working in the back office, that's his career, and I wonder if he had anything to do with that move to Miami.
I remember when I moved from one state to another, I was in talk radio and I got an offer, you know, I had left the one station and I was thinking of maybe not even staying in radio, excited offers and business and industry and another station came along and offered me less money. I figured it out with taxes and it up making the same.
So it happened to me and again, we want to make this clear to that one listener from a few years ago who said, you know, well, you guys are both billionaires, we are not billionaires. Yeah. And that goes back pretty long time ago, it wasn't close to where, you know, the savings that I've had today because I've continued to work into my 100s.
Yeah. Oh, by the way, yes, what's your retirement plan? I go, you're looking at it.
Yeah.
I have to make a correction.
“I always have to update this because my curiosity and my friend Marvin Allen's career, he”
was like, go, in January from Miami because they had a, oh, yeah, I assumed there was going to be a change. He'll likely land somewhere because he's really great at player relations from all accounts. I haven't talked to him in years, but he's a really, really great guy and great at his job. Oh, I didn't know he had moved up to assistant general manager.
Yeah. I just said that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but their GM was bought out. So, oh, yeah. They blew everything.
And then GM's going to bring in their own team, you know, the way they blew out. They blew out everybody, including their coach, point extra. Yeah. If you've seen them when you look at them. Yeah.
Right. But, you know, you think about those moves with the athletes, that has to be great consideration. You know, there was once the story going around and, you know, there's some truth to it.
“Texas Rangers baseball, Matt, summer, that field can be brutally hot, right?”
And it's like, yeah, it was a take. It's tall. It's a take. Well, not long. Not it.
Yeah, that was before the move. Right. I think that's the biggest part of the move in the new stadium. And it was, you know, I thought, I don't know, you know, their athletes and everything else.
But does it have a long term effect, a cumulative effect, and playing in that heat, you know, back then on your career, on the length of your career would be the question. But when it comes to tax, when it comes to earnings, you know, you mentioned hockey players. Well, they don't make what, you know, big NFL players make, you know, they're making more than they used to, but still every dollar counts.
So if you talk about that savings, extrapolated out over a four-year contract of two and a
half million, that's a big deal.
I know guy who played the NFL and he was at the minimum salary, you know, so he did okay. But the fact is, I hope he saved every dollar of it because he might have been able to build a nest egg after like a four or five-year career of maybe maybe a million million and a half.
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We wind up and for your goals, 866-90 Red Eye on Red Eye Radio. We are on a radio and he's currently on Gary McNamara. My actual point was not about teams not being able to be good. My point was how the public will perceive this now that it's starting to come out that how athletes are taxed and if it starts affecting more players, because that was really
the biggest name player from Arizona that had come out and said, I'm not going to go to San Diego. I'm not going to go to California to play because of the taxes. I say millions by not going, you know, every single agent is on that right now and every single.
So how will the public look at this when they see, you know, when Democrats tax them more, tax them more, tax them more and at the same time, as we found out, sports fans can be complete hypocrites, stop spending money on these billionaires, oh, but build the billionaires, they're factory, you know, if you're talking taxes in the sports world,
There's most people, the hardcore sports fans tune out, they're not going to,...
starts to become a conversation in more of the pop culture setting.
“We lost his free agent, why are we in New York, why are we taxing, why are we taxing”
people that make this, they're already paying this amount in taxes, why are we taxing them so much? We're not going to have a Super Bowl team and then they could care less of their being taxed. Exactly.
And then the next morning, they're going to say, the billionaires need to pay their fair share. Yes. It changes with sports fans. It does.
Different dynamics.
You're listening to Red I ready, from the Ray League Backers Studio.
Here when I ready, oh, he is crony and I'm Gary McNamara. So funny, Eric and I are just in a discussion about all the issues. He gets up and walks out of the studio. I follow behind him, we're just into this conversation and also an Alan, guys, we're coming back, we're coming back, it's like, oh my gosh, we both just abandoned the studio.
I was just running into, to get another day, so the fridge real quick and I was very positive I can get back, you follow me out and it looks like we're done with this, we're going home. Where are they going? You know they're old. They may not realize they just left the studio right before airtime and we should
tell them. They're so funny. Guys, 20 seconds, you're back, all right, some story, it's, you know, on Friday, we
always got to clear the desk, so let's get to a couple of stories here.
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It's what you voted for. No, okay, now I'm getting no, I know so many, I know so many good conservatives now in Washington state. Sorry. I just right now.
Shut up, I didn't ask for it. You didn't. But the majority of your state has right, no, it's the urban areas. The majority and the people of the urban areas, which are the majority of people in the state, have asked for it.
It's what they want.
“Maybe they should follow through with that whole greater Idaho thing, remember that?”
Part of Washington state wanted to go and become greater. No, that was Oregon. Was it Oregon? It was Oregon. Oh, that would make sense because it, you know, the border.
But yeah. By the way, you don't get to take the name greater Idaho, because the people who are already in Idaho are going, "Wait a minute, they're better than you." You don't get greater. This is like the sign fell that episode where Morty was wearing the number one dad's
sign. Lloyd Bridges was upset about it. I don't have the number one dad, I don't have the number one dad, that the whole thing with Lloyd Bridges that that was just brilliant.
“Yeah, but you know what makes, what's his name, Barney?”
I can't think of the actor's name, but the thing that makes that whole thing beautiful
Is because he's wearing the shirt Jerry gave him, you know, the number one dad.
And it's basically his belly.
The thing, the thing is so tight to him and his belly just stick it out and the number one. Yeah. And you know, they did that on purpose. Oh, yeah.
Make sure that thing is skin tight. Yeah. But you're going to see this, we talked about it earlier, we said, you know, with New York State, their electricity prices, they're panicking, California's panicking over gas prices. Why are you panicking?
Why do I keep hearing this panic? It's what you voted for. You keep putting in the same people.
You know, I said it this week when I went, when I went to vote, and I see these people
walking in Democrat, I'm like, for God's sake, this is Texas. You're voting for men in girls locker rooms. You're voting for increased energy prices. You're voting for the insanity of the radical transgender movement. Because keep in mind, they were voting for either Jasmine Crocket or Tala Rico.
They didn't matter which one. They're both radicals. Oh. That's right. I wanted to get some some of this audio in your ear.
You're ready for this? Yeah. Okay. This is morning Joe yesterday. Okay.
Okay. A Democrat consultant on here we go on morning Joe. All right.
“But look, I think Joe, the key thing here is that Jametal Rico was cast, was cast and”
increasingly, it's still his cast, they're saying increasingly, but still his cast is a moderate. There is nothing, he's not a moderate, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's in Jasmine Crocket
at basically the same positions on almost every issue.
He's a populist, he's progressive, he's pretty far to the left on the line of issue. All right. Now, he's a populist in that he's trying to market his insane leftist ideas in the populist way. Yeah.
All right. All right. Let's see an end. Why don't make sure we get this one in a former Iranian political prisoner on CNN. All right.
Here we go. All right. Two days ago yesterday this morning, I was told we were not at war.
“Today in the press conference, P.K., that says, in the war, are we at war?”
Are we not at war? Do we want our regime chains or do we not answer? And I said, I told the Iranian people in this very firm, you know, I know this may sound controversial and a number of among my friends, some of them is controversial, but I think that a lot of commentary is missing perhaps the big picture.
And there is a big picture here, and I perhaps, to simplify it, I would put it this way. I don't think it's right to say that President Trump has started a war with Iran. I think President Trump wants to finish a war that Iran started in 1979, '47 years ago. And I'll just, I'll just, these aren't just words. Let me just tell you an anecdote. In the 2003, 2004, when I was there in Iran, working on projects at a very high level,
I was talking with deputy ministers, I was talking with going back and forth, and I was in the foreign ministry in Tehran where I met someone who was very senior, and he was semi-sympathetic with the projects we were doing. But as I was leaving, he looked me in the eye, and he said, "You as an Iranian-American, I want you to know something and listen very carefully." He said, "We in this building," and what he meant is the foreign ministry, which meant
representing the government, which means representing the regime, he said, "We believe we are at war with the United States." He said, "At that time, it's a cold war, but it's a war nonetheless. That's not a war. I didn't do that. That's from my view."
“Then the 1000 kids in a Janese, in former Iranian political prisoner Keon, Taj Besch, I think.”
I may be pronouncing his last name completely wrong, but he was on CNN yesterday, and I thought there was interesting to have that one. So, was there another one that I wanted to get in this half hour? I think that was on, on, on, on, on, on, on. We got to get to the Tim Waltz one. Okay. Okay. We need to get to Tim Waltz, and in front of the houses we got, here we go.
Ready? Do you believe the 70,000 strong symbolic community as a whole has made a positive impact on your state? I do. So, you'd be the opinion fair to say that the small community has successfully simulated and is making Minnesota better.
Yeah. I believe they're on that path. Yes. I'm just curious by what metric you'd come to that conclusion. I just looked at some hard data. And even any idea, what percentage of the native born, Minnesota's all races live in poverty in your state right now?
I don't have specifically.
I, I'll share it with you. It's 8% for the small community. It's 52%. How about receiving
food stamps? I don't. I'll run it down with you.
“About 7% and then, in the compared to 54% in the small community. And then, don't have,”
have it, don't have at least a high school diploma for all Minnesota's 5% small community. It's 39%. One family member, at least on Medicaid, it's 18% for Minnesota, 73% for the small community, and receiving welfare of some form, it's 21%, and it's 81% for the small community.
Governor, do you have any to know what the percentages of all those who have currently been charged in the staggering social services fraud scheme were native born, Minnesota's what percentage I, I do not have that. I think it's 85% and 98, which comes out to 13% Minnesota and 87% small, Minnesota. So, I think this is an instance, perhaps, where we're woke at slap by data. Governor, there's been
billion stolen over seven plus years right under your nose. And really, there's only two
explanations. It's either, you were in on it, or you weren't smart enough to, to see it.
“There's either criminal negligence or wild incompetence. And the only way this kind of”
fraud can reach this scale is if there's people in power that are colluding and collaborating and willfully blinding themselves to the realities around them. There you go. You know, one of the things that the Republicans are hitting, which is, you know, outside of actually illegal immigration, is are we vetting properly the people that we allow into the country? Can they assimilate? Can they become productive
members of society? Do they wish to assimilate? You saw, you saw it to leave getting pounded. Yeah. Because she said, they at the state of the union going, what do you mean they? What do you mean they? You know, it's, it's, you're part of the United States. And she said, she goes, it's racist to say that I'm not American. It's racist to say that I'm not an American this week to a reporter. And then she said, I'm a Palestinian. It's like I would
“see entire point. It was just, it was so bad. And this is why there's such a great opportunity”
for Republicans here. The American public is on your sides. For God's sakes, learn how to communicate. In fact, they have no self-awareness whatsoever. You can completely destroy their arguments on 95% of what the American public cares about. It's probably 100%. But I just gave an extra 5% in case somebody says, oh, it's not 100%. It missed this little thing here. 95% though, it's still a lot. You know, it's, I, I, I, I go back and forth with
the, is it zero sense of self-awareness or just their hardcore convictions. And where they stand on this. And I have to think it's all the above. That, that they don't care. This is how they want to, I don't know, make their mark. But you look at the state that union, a lot of them are to leave. Man, that was a horrible look for the Democrats. That was not good. That works against their entire party for the midterms to what extent
we'll find out November for next July when there was else or final. You know, I got this headline, James Carville doubles down an urgent, a lot of them are to leave the Democratic party after she blasted white males. And he's been going after the identity politics for a significant period of time, even though he was one of the people that helped create identity politics in the Democratic party. But he now realizes that it's just, it's horrible.
He says you cannot be telling a third of the voting public that they're bad. And that's where
identity politics comes in. Identity politics is a judge people by groups and not individuals. And we have stated this is where we believe the Republican party has failed. Absolutely miserably. You've got a party that's racist. The opposition party is racist. They continually call you a racist as they practice identity politics. It's unbelievable. It's absolutely unbelievable. And you have the perfect opportunity by what they say. Talariko got pounded on something
he's talked about, you know, the white person, the white person, the white virus that gets there, you know, we've said this many times before, why do they think, you know, why do they keep throwing this stuff out? And we finally came to the conclusion, it's the party, the practices identity politics. They practice racism. They believe everybody is racist because they're racist. Yep. Otherwise, you don't talk about that. They feel
Guilt.
else. It's because that's how they feel. They know their racist and they feel guilty about
“it. There's no other reason. And that's why they assume they project out what they believe”
and what they think about themselves. And say, if I think this way, everybody has to think
this way, everybody with my skin color must also be a racist because I am. Yep. We are
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Gary McNamara.
We are right, I radio. He's our company. I'm Gary McNamara. By the way, here's what James
Telleriko wrote a few years ago. White skin gives me and every white American immunity from the virus. But we spread it wherever we go through our words, our actions and our systems. We don't have to be showing symptoms like a white hood or a Confederate flag to be contagious. Now, that's somebody who believes they're a racist and is guilty about it. Right. The Republican
“Party ought to use those exact same words that I have just used. Why don't they?”
I don't know. But you could easily put that ad together in a matter of seconds and have it everywhere. This is Rennie Radio on Westwood One. Mama, how much do you love the big love? Hmm, size, and so creamy. Hey, we can be a Papa Kemi sign.

