03-25-26 Part Two - NYC, CNN & CBS

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I need to correct the article here. Exactly. Memdani has formed a new mass engagement arm in his office,

which will pay almost $2 million in six figure salaries

to over one dozen activist staffers. Okay. Memdani is looking to bring 14 people into the mayor's office of mass engagement, which aims to carry out the goals of the Democratic Socialist of America per the New York Post.

All right. This came from one Democratic strategist about the job openings. The Soviet Politburo called they want their job announcement back. That came from a Democrat. The cadre of mass engagement workers will be tasked with building a volunteer system for different advocacy campaigns

in the Big Apple. The job posting they says will be achieving the efforts through co-governance. Whatever the hell that means. Yeah. Co-dependence co-government. Yeah. Wow.

Six figure jobs for that. Wow. Of course. You know, again, pointing out correctly pointing out the cost of the mass of bureaucracy.

All these free things, Gary. So many free things. What it start with. Bus rides. Free. Everything's going to be free. Nope.

It'll cost you the bear out front. Shoulda told you. All right. You ready for this? The communist bear out front. Shoulda told you. It's spring break. So of course, Fox goes to the beach.

Fox goes to the beach. All right. To ask questions. Got some audio here. All right.

Here we get you ready. All right. There's music behind it because it's all they do. Okay. But here it is.

All right. I hate when they do the music. But here it's sort of entertaining. Here we go. Okay.

“What issue facing America is the most important to you?”

What the community I'm going to wear next? Obesity is terrible. Ice. Not personally. I'm legal.

Getting a tan on the beach.

That's the most important thing in my life right now.

I think about Starbucks to be honest. And think about Starbucks. What I'm going to get for today. The elevators don't work. You got 43.

The elevators don't [bleep] work. I could take this little glass of water drop it in the magnets. That's the end of the end. Okay, and then they throw in all the other stuff. They really doesn't go. I mean, it was it wasn't they should have asked a specific question. Yeah, and to be clear President Trump was not. Yeah, he was not on the beach right. He was not at the beach. This was not a wall. What's his name? Remember? Remember the whale on the beach? Pictures. Oh, Chris Christie. Chris Christie. Yes, it's one of those big. Yeah, so they just they threw. Yeah, no.

“You need to ask specific questions to see what they know. Yeah, or is that? Or do they only do that for like for the fourth to July?”

I don't know, but it should be disturbing that I didn't know who you were talking about until you said whale. By the way, somebody else used that word to describe him before we did that was the whole thing of the pictures of him on the beach. And then, okay, let's go. Let's go a few more. Just a couple more. Here we go. Yeah, okay. What have you heard that Donald Trump has been doing recently? Gulf of America. That's the last thing I kept up with. We're going to war with Iraq. That's been crazy. What are you doing, Columbia? Yeah, I'm going to do it. Oh, shit.

But that shit is done. He's like trying to suit those people from making jokes about him. Six hundred times. You must be happy. I'm very happy. Yeah, your toll is dead. I'm what? Who? What? What is that?

Who the f*** is I'll tell her? I've never heard that word in my life.

Iraq. Gary, we're going to war with Iraq. Yeah. You know, that's the one thing. You know, we, if you, if you do this, you know, if you do this for a living or if you pay attention like our audience does, right?

Every party makes the mistake of trying to appease their base once they get elected and that's never the case.

“Trump isn't losing his base. You lose independence. And when you have the argument, as we've said, the Republicans have the, the Republicans have the right answers for the arguments.”

Yeah. But when you have a Republican party that is willing to move to the left as they are, you lose your argument. When you have a Republican think about, we have a Republican party that did, and again, it doesn't get a lot of news and Republicans really won't carry it much. No, no. When we talked about the housing bill, thank God it looks like Mike Johnson is like this can't get through. Yeah, right. I mean, it's just like the, and Trump was all for it. Let's get the government more involved in the mortgage market affordability and all of his influencers.

Trump is about affordability. The government's going to have more to do with the mortgage market exactly what we don't want.

Right. It doesn't matter. It's simply let's go forward because it's what they want and nobody cares about what do they actually want. Well, what will this actually do? This is going to limit housing, which will make housing more expensive. You're simply trying to sell with the Democrats or selling, which is if the government gets more involved in it and throws in tons of subsidies, well, then your life will be easier. Know your life's going to be harder.

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Yeah, it's the same, but it's all, it's based on the fact that the independence are fickle and there is a significant portion of the population.

“That as we said before, envy and jealousy leads envy and jealousy leads because that's how it's so simple to say billionaires of the problems and the big corporations are when actually the biggest problem that we have.”

Number one, for raising the cost of living and making our lives harder is government. The same people that is directing, especially the ignorant out there, which includes a significant portion of the young people ignorant doesn't mean stupid. It's Democrats who believe the people that vote for them are idiots, and that's why they're trying to sell now that hey, we're idiots too leading the idiots. That's what they think, we knew we were going to war with Iraq. We believe people have a lack of knowledge as to what's going on and so they pay more attention to a meme or slogan or words that are said instead of the actual actions that are being taken.

And we said this earlier this week with, you know, what, what Trump said about Robert Mueller. And we got into, well, this is what Mueller actually did, this is what we believe he did, but you may not like the language. I don't like all the language that Trump uses, but a lot of times in our society, we're worried about the language that actually the actions of someone. Yeah, right. And that's a huge problem. And that's a significant number of liberals of Democrats and of independence out there.

“So what you have to do in Trump succeeded in doing it twice convincing people, I will do things in your best interest.”

Well, you heard the one guy and it was excellent. They had to blank it out, but he says I didn't vote for Trump, but he's getting stuff done.

And that audio cut you just heard him. So it's look. And it's, and it's always been we said from the beginning that in his first term, we said it throughout his first term.

The only thing that the liberals have on him is his words, not his actions, nothing on his actions. And of course, when it came to actions, they had to make it up, Russian hoax, to impeachment, it's in, and it's something that we've talked about. Your actions can, but I can speak, volume, I don't know why on both parties. There's such a blind spot for prices and economics. I have no idea why there is.

I can't speak on the GOP because I'm with you, I'm, it should have been January 20th. Okay, I'll give you the January 21st, 2025, both that should have been it. It should have actually should have been part of the campaign in a big, big way, but with specifics here's the plan that we're going to do not. Again, promising prices are going to come down and you can't keep that promise, don't, don't go that far. Talk about what you're going to do for the economy, but with the, with the left, they don't, they don't care, they don't care about the economy.

If you're going to lower prices, they will spend more. If you're going to lower prices, you can't raise the cost of doing business.

“I think that may be the conundrum for the GOP. Whether, whether you believe it was the right thing to do.”

Yeah, and we said this in the very beginning, but when you say, making the cost of doing business is going to go up and that's going to bring prices down. There's a conundrum with the party because not everybody in the party is on board with terrorists, but how do you come out? How do you, you know, talk about it without being shunned by the president and the president needs the party. So I think that's probably, we know the flag that we got. We said, you look, you can help certain businesses, but you punish others.

Yeah, I got into a, I got into an argument. With the friend of mine, who wasn't willing to acknowledge that making the cost of doing business greater, you know, increasing the cost of doing business makes prices come down.

They'll never, they don't come down. They go up. Now, there are things, for example, deregulation that can help moderate it, but if you make the cost of doing business, go up.

It's impossible to make the overall economy better. We talked about it with steel tariffs with Bush. They had a back off. The evidence is there. The history is there. You can explain and say, but this is necessary to do this, but don't say it's going to create a ton more jobs when we've seen the opposite is one of the worst years for jobs outside of a recession. And you're going to get to check in the mail. Right. And plus we're going to get to check in the mail. Don't promise things you can't deliver.

“Well, and that's what, and for all the thing, and I'd vote for Trump again,”

but you got to be honest, that on immigration, they want on immigration and prices, and they blow both of those. Well, it's, and if it's true, that on immigration, that they're going to back away from deporting anyone except for the violent or the criminals criminal element. They didn't even say the criminal element, it was sexual predators, terrorists or extreme criminals.

Yeah, I saw violent criminals. Yeah. So you basically created an amnesty if that's, if that's it.

And you send the message to people who haven't come here. Well, if I'm not a criminal, I can go to the US, and they're not, they won't deport me. By the way, the interesting thing is they succeeded on a legal immigration and still they want it. We're losing the issue in the public, even in, you know, and it doesn't matter whether it's civil, unless they fix this in reconciliation. Right. The Republican posters have, have, have brought that up, but the Republican posters are really focused on prices and said,

'cause if you could get prices down, that would be the number one thing. If you could get prices down, the icing would go away. Yeah. If the stock market would go up and gasoline prices would come down. See, because, yeah, yeah, the immigration thing would go away. No, he was successful in that, and prices have come down now. I don't think they have time to do it. I hope I'm wrong. I don't know what you would do.

Yeah. In the Dwight, unless you, unless the war ends in the next month, oil prices, you know, crash 401k skyrocket again, because he says, look, because of everything that happened here, I'm lowering tariffs temporarily for the next year, so we can get the economy going again, but if he does that, he's just admitting, but he's already admitted. He's already admitted. The morning, remember the morning when the bond market was going after the night that the bond market started,

“just skyrocketing, and those, I think it was eight GOP senators, got FaceTime with him, or they were on the phone with him, and the next morning he said,”

when he was about to announce a change in the terrorist situation, he said, this will be a good day to invest basically on because he knew the markets were going to skyrocket.

But if they want a chance, and the war in the next month, 401k's will go back up, gasoline prices will come down, drop your tariffs, drop the tariff,

“say for the next year we're dropping the tariffs because of everything that happened here, just do, and don't come back to it later.”

If you, if you do, you're going to see the same thing, but it's, if you do that now, at least you get, as you mentioned for the next year, you get through November. Right, we'll see. We are right, I radio. Brought to you by FPPF, you'll power max. Uncompensated, detected, docs, frustrates drivers of all strikes. If you're an owner operator, you have at least some control over the matter. Make the subject a standard part of your rate and/or contract negotiations on the front end. You can use your own numbers to calculate an hourly rate to compensate for lost income opportunity, as well as fixed costs, which don't stop when the truck stops.

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We are when I radio, and he's our Crony and I'm Gary Mac, and I just have to go by the Drudge Report, and here's a lead headline. New York Times, Trump continues war for Crown Prince, completely the wrong way to look at that. Yeah, the fact that you have the stories out that Saudi Arabia and the UAW want a ran, they want the regime gone. I guarantee you, you know, we've talked about this before, the cooperation that you've seen there. Don't be surprised if other Middle Eastern nations jump on it. They want a ran gone. Think about this.

It's not the Trump continues the war for the Crown Prince. The Crown Prince is saying, we want you to continue, but we'll go to war with you. We'll help you, the UAW, it should be the UAW. [Laughs] The UAE. They might, you know, the UAE, we want to go, they want Islamic radicalism gone.

“They don't want a powerful ran. That is unbelievable. That's why we said from the very beginning, if Trump could get to the point that he, that he put out in his eight-minute speech,”

it would be mind-boggling. Yeah. Yeah. If you could actually get rid of that regime or somehow, and what's happening is the Crown Prince and Saudi Arabia and the UAE and others, don't believe if it ends now that the regime is gone, that would probably be their point. Well, this is what, you know, and I kind of talked about this.

In fact, I did talk about this. I alluded to this before that the support from the other nations in the region is critical,

but that support only lasts as long as their confidence in the U.S. to get the job done. And the job is get rid of the regime. They know that. Everybody knows that. That's the only solution here. We said from the very beginning, even when the Pentagon was saying, "No, it's not about regime change. Of course it is." It is. And it has to be. And the other nations know it has to be. Because if this is a course it was. Yeah. I mean, Gummy correct my statement. It's great point. We don't know what it was. But they know hopefully it's the same. And maybe that, and I don't know who approached to.

But maybe they reached out to the White House and said, "Look, we've got to have a conclusion here. This cannot, this has to be done. This has to be finished." That mission must be accomplished because everything hinges on that in the Middle East. [Music]

Red Eyed Radio. And we are Red Eyed Radio. We are Red Eyed Radio. We are Red Eyed Radio. I wouldn't make any claim. Well, I wait a minute. There's a lot of reasons. I'm using... No one else should make the claim. I'm using the pronouns that you want. We is Eric Carly.

“They are Eric Carly. They are Eric Carly. They are Eric Carly. How many of them are there?”

Oh, my gosh. How many Eric Carly are there? That's the scarier thought.

I saw this headline CNN said for Fresh Layoffs this week and we never really talked about the CBS Layoffs of last week.

CNN said for Fresh Layoffs are preparing to cut staff this week as CEO pushes ahead with major digital, a major digital overhaul. I find it interesting because it's like Sean Hannity's doing his podcast now and it's like 2026. Starting a podcast! No, I saw that. Everybody had a chuckle over that one. Wait a minute. Wait to come into the 90s. But very quickly about CBS before we get to the other thing. CBS News Radio shut down completely after 99 years.

They're going to be gone. I did see a Brian Steltra from CNN say his sources say, "Well, I said, look, you could sit there and talk about everything else." But my source tells me no revenue was coming in. They were hardly, they were had a trickle of revenue for that service. And no matter what you think of their great, great history or a lot of great people that work there, you're not pulling in the revenue you're gone. And you're seeing that, you know, and this is, you know, Steltra would go after Barry Weiss in a second said, "She agonized over it."

And, you know, it's like, wow, but they could not figure out a way to how do you keep something going that is bringing in no, you know, he said hardly any revenue at all. And I'm paraphrasing it, but that is accurate. It's, you know, hardly any revenue at all. They're bringing in. But yeah, you can't, you just, it doesn't work that way.

And you know, we've talked about CNN and we don't know, you know, what the solution is for CNN.

“Well, no, no, because I was test pattern. No, I, I think that that the, the story of a Vince Vaughan yesterday, the actor, Vince Vaughan, the actor producer, director, I think I've done everything.”

Yeah, calls out late night shows for feeling all the same. And because it become agenda-based. And he went after them and said, I think the talk shows to a large part are really agenda-based. Of course they are. Well, yeah, they were going to evangelize people to what they thought. And so people just rejected it because it didn't feel authentic. It felt like they had an agenda. It stopped being funny. And it started feeling like I was, uh, Effing in a class that I don't want to take, you know, I'm getting scolded.

And he talked about the fact he said, you know, look at the podcast, you know, why are the, why are some, why are podcasts booming? Why are certain things just booming out there? And, and I'll, and he said authenticity. And that's the absolute truth. I think it's one of the reasons why. For the most part. And the conservative talk radio has continued to have a huge audience. Well, it's because it comes across. If you come across as authentic, you know, there was this belief before. And it may be still in the TV networks.

I don't know. If you work at Fox, you may have to ride the Fox line. I don't know.

“I know you have to wear a lot of makeup and there has to be hair dye involved. And you have to show leg if you're one.”

And maybe if you're a man. But, you know, and so TV, it may be there because it's not, you and I would never want, if I'm, I'm telling you right now, somebody said,

We'll offer you a million dollars to do a show on Fox. I'd say no. No. I might have said yes 40 years ago. I'd say no now. Money doesn't, I don't, if they wanted to carry this show. Yeah, but that, it wouldn't happen that way. Oh, the way, the way that it is, if they, if they said do it, you do, and you won't even know where they're. Yeah. I can have a conversation. Oh, I do it in a second. Yeah.

But the point you're making is actually the opposite of that. The reason you and I both don't have any interest in that is because it becomes something very different.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. And if it ever gets to be that way and here I would go, but what people don't understand is talk radio. You don't hear the allegations as much anymore. Maybe it's come across to people. But I remember the one time where we, somebody I call it, you guys get your talking points. And I said, what do you think? We get like at 930. We get talking points like email to us.

“And he said, yes, that was such a funny moment. But the truth is you don't. Yes.”

We're owned by a corporation. And I have worked for large corporations and I've worked for single owners and only once. And somebody tried a button on editorial control. But for the most part, people think because you work for a and TV is different. TV is different than even radio radio. You don't have, you don't, we don't sit and there may be some people that do that. They're acts, I won't say that they don't. I know for us. We come in and we do our show.

We said we have to do authentic, you know, to Vince Bond's point. You have to be authentic. Why, we. And we've had people, each of us have had people ask us, okay, so. What do you really think? Yeah, I like that. And in my opinion, for me, I know, and I think this applies to you. I think you believe this for you. I'm going to be who I am because I'm not, man, if you had to be a script.

I said this to our production crew earlier, I'd be horrible in, in like scripted TV.

I could never do something like that. And it would be like that SNL bit when the prompter goes down.

And all of a sudden flames and everything else in there's chaos. It's for me, it has to be a conversation like real people talk. But it also has to be who I am, what I believe in, what I stand for. And if it's not, I wouldn't have any interest in doing it.

“And if there's no interest, there's no passion. And you hear that, that's what I think Vince Bond knows.”

And that is, if something's authentic, your audience knows. And the audience knows, yeah, because of the passion, the back and forth that's there. And it's funny because it was a month or two ago, Ben Affleck, and his head of a sexual life partner, Matt Damon, Ron Joe Rogan. And typically, I wouldn't watch that because it's like, you know, okay.

But for some reason I did, and they got into a point of talking about the press junkets they have to do for movies. And they said, and I think it was Ben Affleck who said,

you know, we think there's greater value now in a situation like this, basically a podcast,

because they were on Robin, where you can sit and just talk and just have a conversation as opposed to the junket, well, tell us about the movie and tell us about it and who directed and none of them. And Matt Damon was talking about even some of the talk shows, which Vince Bond talks about here. And that is there. It's everything is, there's a pre-interview. They want to do a bit.

They want to do all of these things. And they both done it. They both still do it. The bit between Matt Damon trying to get on to sneak on to Jimmy Kimmel's set and the rivalry fake rivalry between he and Jimmy Kimmel's been going on for years.

And it's like, John, the jokes over. I mean, the joke wasn't even funny the first time.

But they keep it going for some reason. But they both pointed out in that moment and admitted, and I was kind of surprised by it. It was the most interesting, maybe the only. Interesting part of that conversation. I didn't watch the whole thing, but I think it was somewhere in the first hour. And they said that the contrived situations don't work. To Vince Bond's point, there is an agenda. There is.

It's also regimented. There's nothing authentic about it.

“But they, you know, in Matt Damon and Ben Affleck were pointing out, what you have to do is part of the gig.”

You get the movie and if you invest in the movie and produce it, you've got to go promote it. And if you sign up on somebody else's project as the actor, you've also got to go promote it's part of the deal. But I think people don't like the contrived situation like that anymore because of the agenda, because people aren't being authentic.

that I don't like how, for example, CNN, it's become tribal where it's Democrat versus Republican.

Yeah, where the Republican always has to defend the Republican no matter what. And the Democrat will always defend. There isn't the liberal conservative argument.

“And I think that's what you see on podcasts is what you see on this show here.”

I remember when I first started in talk radio, I don't want to do it. And I just said, well, I'm going to, I remember getting in the first time. It's going to tell you what I think. And then we'll debate it. And it wasn't a thing where, okay, I vote Republican. I am a Republican. Therefore, we will support the Republicans no matter what. I was never tribal. I never wanted to be tribal. And when I felt that sinking into talk radio for a little bit, I was going to leave.

It's one of the reasons I came on this show. And two of the best bosses that I've ever had are the two bosses that we first had here.

I mean, all the rest of the bosses have been great. They've led us to alone. But those first two bosses that we had, I'll name them Bob Shomper and Tyler Cox, Tyler Cox, one of Rush Limbaugh's first bosses. Who just said, leave those guys alone. Let them just do it. Yeah, from those two, if you knew anything about industry, yes, from coming from those two, that was a big deal, probably the greatest compliment. Yes, it was, the best because we both, you and I both have, we know the level of responsibility that we have on all these stations.

So for the station managers, our company doesn't own all the stations we're on, but it doesn't matter for the station managers. And, and of course, the integrity of the program, our company and everything involved, we do have a thoughtful process. We're not going to be irresponsible with it. And when you're on in the middle of the night, like one of our other bosses said, nothing good happens after midnight. But no, if you're on in the middle of the night, you wanted to be turned key, so we don't have to wake anybody up.

Or somebody else doesn't have to wake somebody up to one of the most important things. It's not just about, I want my editorial freedom. If I don't have it, I won't do it.

I mean, it just won't, but I don't do it just for that.

“I do it because I believe what you and I bring is a little bit different has its own niche, and you can sell it.”

There's a commercial aspect to that. You and I have been on the, you know, we've been, we've, we've sold. I've been a radio station manager. I know the business part of it. But I believe if you have the right host and you give them the ability to have the freedom, then they become more authentic. And you can sell that. You get both. You get there's tremendous creativity. There's creativity and there's commercialism in it, just because something is commercial does not mean it can't be great. Well, and, and create, and we're average. Yeah, I'm not, I was talking about other people being right.

I mean, we, well, the thing is is we, and I think we've said it before, but we look at the results that that we're getting. And you and I are very humbled because our audience, that means our audience chooses to find us every day. And I couldn't be more grateful. I take that very serious Vince Vaughn works with a, oh, Steve Burn and Peter Billingsley. Yeah, yeah, I'm from the Christmas story. Yes. They've been like in a production company and Steve Burn told me one time he said I was talking to Vince Vaughn about acting, everything else he goes, no produce content produce content.

Yeah, you produce the content.

“I don't remind anybody else you produce the content. Right. And that's what I think of so many podcasts and talk radio does, we produce the content and because it's an individual, it's individualized content that nobody else can mirror.”

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Oh, will that be the next thing? And so they had to cancel it.

Well, that'd be the next thing for the Democrats in 2008. We need DEI. We can only have one white male running.

“I think there were four or five white males, one white woman.”

Right. Well, we know when the DNC was picking new leadership, they picked David the Hogan the other guy to white males. Well, I thought they admitted it after the Telereco victory. We want white. People and they got to be mad.

Right. The Democrats know that sort of thing.

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