04-03-26 Part One - Bondi Bounced

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Hi. All right. So remember we talked a little bit about addiction earlier this week and about how you can be addicted to things beyond alcohol and drugs. Sure.

“I think it was probably was in relation to the whole Tiger Woods thing.”

Man, I was going through. I probably needed professional help yesterday. When we were sitting here right at the end of the show yesterday, I put my phone in my pocket in my co-pocket and it fell down and hit the floor. Oh, my stylus popped out. Oh.

I didn't know until I woke up yesterday morning. I had no stylus for my phone. Oh, no. And do you use it every day? I use it every five seconds.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I rarely use mine. I use it constantly. I mean, I.

It was. It drove me nuts yesterday. And by the time I. But the time I got to noon. I was up by probably eight thirty.

Time I got to noon. I was like, I'm not going to even look at my phone. Yeah. It. It drove me nuts.

Uh, because there's a ton of stuff you can do with that stylus. Mm-hmm. When it comes to. What do you primarily use it for?

“I use it for e-signatures and that's about twice a year.”

I like to use it for everything. But I do like to use it whenever.

Basically, I cut and paste a picture.

Okay. You know, or, you know, take, you know, take it. And then, you know, you can, you know, you hit that, the little circle in the middle and. Right.

And take, you know, stories and. And I like to a lot of my friends actually when I'm doing my, you know, show prep, which is 24/7. If I see a story. Some of them don't have.

They don't have X or they don't have Facebook. So if I send the link, they don't get it. They go, I can't get it. I can't get it. Right.

So I just, you know, snap the, you know. Screen shot. Screen shot of it. And then, uh, you know, crop it. Uh, and I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll just headlines.

Two goes, I'll just, hey, guys, check this story out. And I do it all day as I'm doing my show prep. Probably to 10 different people. Right.

“Like this, they want to know this. So they don't want to know that. They want to know that.”

Right. And I couldn't do it. And it was driving me crazy. Now, I immediately, I didn't know it first where I lost it. I had no idea. And then I went, wait a minute.

I pitched, when I dropped my phone. But I just said, I ordered one anyway. It's like 20 bucks on, on Amazon. It'll be in a 4 AM this morning. But when I walked in, whoever.

Uh, our, the nice person who cleans our studio. That's me. That's me. Apparently put it right here. Yeah.

Right on the top of. I do that part time. My, my desk. So yeah, good. That's good.

So I'm, okay. But what a week we've had. It's a Friday show.

Well, and, and incredible week we had Thursday is no exception to that.

It's, it's another crazy day, you know. Yeah, I mean, but we, we look at the entire week. Uh, you had, you know, a Pam Bondi. Uh, you know, uh, she's gone the, uh, we learned a new word. Yeah.

Uh, not, not, I almost said, by focal. Ecation. Yeah. Bimbo. Bimbo.

Bimbo. Bimbo vacation. Right. Bimbo. Right.

Is it. Bimbo vacation. Bimbo vacation. Bimbo vacation. Which is to be becoming of a Bimbo.

Right. Which I, I didn't, I didn't know was a. Yeah. I didn't know that there was a term for that. And then you had Matt Gates.

You heard Matt Gates from a congressman Matt Gates. Yeah. Talking about the fact that, uh, hey, you know, I talked to this guy. And there's humans. There's like six centers and humans are breeding with aliens in order to communicate with them.

I thought we all knew that.

And, and I'm thinking of myself. The Tucker Carlson said anything today. By the way, how the mighty have fallen. Just remember, we've talked about this for the longest time. Uh, since, uh, probably both was been doing talk radio.

Don't attach yourself to a person, attach yourself to an idea. Because you look at Tucker Carlson. You look at Matt Gates. They almost rose to deity status to many Republicans. And especially influencers of the Republican party.

Yeah. They were promoting it.

They're both a bunch of nut cases.

Yeah. I had, uh, had somebody approached me last week at the, uh, middle America truck show.

“Uh, and asked me, what happened to Tucker Carlson as about?”

That's, that seems like an open-ended question. I said, I, you know, I, I don't, I make a practice of not becoming a fan of people. I can say they are right here or they are right or they are wrong. Over here. Yeah.

I can say they did a good job at whatever, you know, whatever it was. They accomplished this. People are fallible. Uh, they are highly unpredictable. And it kind of goes back to what I said about the president.

The president is in a situation where I firmly still believe this, that inside his organization, uh, as president, but likely for the rest of his life. Uh, when he's no longer president, the only people he can trust are named Trump or Kushner.

“And I, I firmly believe that that he can truly trust.”

And it's because it's, it's, it's exactly what we talk about. People are fallible. If you bring them on, they can be the biggest, uh, laptop or bulldog or sometimes both. Right. That they're going to jump on and they're going to work to know in for your agenda.

But they're also not you. They're not Donald Trump. And I think, I don't know. I wouldn't know how to explain this if I were Susie Wiles, but it goes back to the 2016 campaign. When it was just a room and they were really, the campaign was Donald Trump.

But there are two guys in the room and at the top of the dry erase board that, that it was written in big letters, let Trump be Trump. But you take that and extrapolate that out and only Trump can be Trump. Good or bad, right or wrong. Whatever his agenda is that he's trying to accomplish.

“I think there are a couple of exceptions right now in his administration to that end.”

I think Pete Hagseth, I think the president has a very, I'll say, short leash. I mean that in the best possible terms that that's possible. With Pete Hagseth at the Pentagon. I think Marco Rubio understands the mission at hand and also understands Trump's mission. And as Secretary of State, I think leading the state department to this point, he's done an exceptional job.

But you don't always get that.

You're not always going to get that. My point was more talking about not how the inner workings of the, the, the white house or the, the cabinet or his staff. It was about Republicans in general, the voter who attach deities status. You know, it's the, the, the tribalism of the person or even as we say, the tribalism of the party. I said yesterday about Trump.

I said he has to do what he did in Iran took an enormous amount of political guts. Oh my gosh. But we, but we can also look and say everything that he promised with the tariffs. Now that a year has gone by, now one thing has come true based on government figures. Right.

Yesterday, it was funny, I just, it was what's certainly from the runaways. Is a she's a she's a she's become a, you know, much more. She's a, she's a conservative Republican, you know, sports Trump. Yeah. And she had put something out there saying, you know, hey, this is a time when we should start getting the tariff checks.

And everybody was agreeing with her, yeah, you know, we need to say, I'm thinking, hey, no idea. There's no chair checks coming. The money is going to be gone in 45 days.

I just said, hey, just, you know, with the Scottish decision that money, you know, isn't there.

I'm paraphrasing now. I can't. Right.

“The money isn't there, whatever, and she just, you know, liked it, whatever.”

I mean, and nobody challenged me on it because I wasn't trying to, you know, be offensive in any way. Or come off that I was, you know, anti Republican or anti, whatever. I've just making a statement of fact. Right. And, and, but, you know, you know, but my point is that's not happening.

The tariff checks, doge, everything else. We can look and say the president has had great successes, but also there are things that aren't working for him. And there are things that he is doing that could cost the Republicans Congress in November. Hopefully, the biggest hope is the Democrats as our area. And again, yesterday with another polls saying the majority of Democrats even say congressional Democrats have the wrong priorities.

But, but that could be a completely different thing.

That may not be the third conservative.

They're just not, you know, you may have a significant portion of Democrats thinking they're not communist enough. But it's the fact that, you know, be passionate about your ideas.

“You can, I understand during a campaign, you can say I want this guy to win and I think he's doing a great job.”

You and I both said, even though we disagree with the things that Trump has done and when Trump isn't honest, I voted for him three times. I want him to win because the, and I want the Republicans to win because the, the, the, the only other choice. The only other choice is completely and totally unacceptable because it's pure insanity and delusion. All the stuff we brought you this week, you know, when we played the Canadian.

I was at, oh, I can't think of the name of the party here. The, the far left party.

Yeah, I guess when, when we played their, their convention going on in the debating.

And, and all the woke stuff going on and all the pronouns, which is pure insanity, understand the Democratic party in the United States is there right now. Oh, yeah, they're there. Right, right. That's where that's where the, and the far left controls them. And when people say, well, the far left is a small minority. No, it's not. When you have an entire party say, we're not going to fund ice.

We're not going to fund, you know, and, and you see more, how many dozens now have come out and said, we don't want ice to exist. We don't want border in, excuse me, we don't want immigration enforcement inside the country at the border OK until we get power and then we'll open it up like Biden did again. That's unbelievable that during a war. They don't care about that type of security. So, when they say, remember, to fund the police became to fund ice.

I was thinking that when I saw the Trump and his budget, the Wall Street Journal reporting the Trump's going to go for the training and I have a budget increasing defense spending by 50%. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of Democrats would say we need to fund the military.

“No, I think that's I was in fact during this whole defunding ice and the H.S. debacle.”

I thought that that has to be the next move. So, Trump does really great things, tremendous things, foreign policy probably the best in my lifetime. But that's not why he was elected. He was an elected for that. Independence don't care about those successes.

I'd say one thing though about the interesting article read the other day about the war against Iranian regime that this great point was made. There's no massive anti war protests. No, there aren't. So, the public, they say we don't like this, but if it is an overwhelming success and you get peace, it'll completely change. I'll tell you when I'm surprised by the lack of protests because with the anti-semitism that clearly is on display, the left has proudly put it on display.

They are proud of their anti-semitism since October 7th. I thought there would be more here and there isn't. And that is surprising. Well, you know how weird it was. I saw one of the officials in New York City.

I think I have the audio. We'll play a coming up here. Talking about hate crimes and the vast majority of hate crimes are against Jews. Standing next to her is Mamdani. And I'm thinking to myself, well, that's like an official of a city or a state.

Right. Unbelievable. I mean, it's unreal.

Well, I watched the documentary.

“There's a homicide in New York or New York homicide.”

Dick Wolfe is the producer of the guy who produces law and order. And it's on Netflix and it's a series actually. But it's a documentary style series on homicide detectives. Upper and lower Manhattan. And the final episode of this season was all about 9/11.

And what they went through it. They had footage and I learned things that I was like, oh, my gosh. And they were all because of their proximity to it. You know, that's, I mean, everybody was all hands on deck, of course. And they went through it and I couldn't help myself.

I told Alan and our producer. I said, after watching it, I said, I couldn't or while I was watching it. I couldn't help myself. But think. Because they're talking about we had thousands of murders on that day committed by terrorists.

“You know, they're their homicide detectives.”

And they're talking about, of course, they try to get people out of buildings, the buildings, collapsing and the entire thing. And think of myself, I bet not one of these detectives. And there's one prosecutor involved in the show, too. A few of them retired now.

But I bet not one of them voted for mom downing. Because if you look back at it and in the end they walked and they paid, you know, they paid tribute at the memorial to all of the fallen firefighters that they knew all the fallen and my PD and port police officers that they knew from 9/11. And a few of them, of course, they were very close to.

And it was extremely emotional. And there were things, again, I learned about 9/11 that I had.

And these were stories being told for the first time that I hadn't heard before.

And I couldn't help but think, there's, I bet not one of these people voted for mom downing. And it's just, you know, but, you know, here we are. It's just, this is where the left is.

“And they're still winning some elections.”

And they might win a big one come November. Yeah. And it's insanity. It is. We are right, I radio.

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All right, Pam Bondi out as attorney general. No one is surprised by this. No, we expected that it would that this would happen sooner or later. Uh, she lost so much credibility with Republicans. Yeah, I was seeing who was it.

I think it was Jonathan Turley. Yesterday that was saying, you know, she could still run for office. She's extremely popular with Republicans. I like to see the polling on that. I'd like to see where he gets that where he gets that from.

And I know that in Florida, she was extremely popular for the job that she did there. Right. But you can't there are just some things in politics. You can't do. Right.

And when you have politically the win on any issue. And the Republicans had the dominant win. When Biden was an office about Epstein. Yeah. Yeah.

And when that remember, it was the Republican party. And the influencers that were pounding day in and day out. About we're going to get to the truth and we're going to get to the truth and we're going to get to the truth. And then you had the binder day. I, you know, I have not, and again, on the, the Epstein files.

Not that Americans don't want anybody who was involved in sex trafficking. And whatever other sexual crimes were committed on that island, punished.

“But the fact is that gone on for years and years and years, this has gone on.”

It doesn't like this is something that happened last week. And it wasn't an issue that was top of mind to the average voter and certainly not to independence. As we've said, the number one thing is prices slammed on. But still, I've not seen a political mistake that backfired so hard on Republicans. Where the Epstein issue that the Republicans owned.

They completely lost their leverage and it was Democrats going after Trump that he's trying to hide something.

It's on my desk Republicans are waiting and then, oh, sorry, there's nothing there. Yeah, yeah, I, I don't know.

I have never held political office.

But I've observed politics for a half a century. I don't know where their head where her head was at. I don't know where anybody in the White House where their head was at at that one. Well, the thing is is that it kind of goes back to again over promising politically on on what you can deliver. But especially with something so specific, right?

We wanted justice, I think we want justice, of course, for the victims. To me, that's where the focus must remain. That there must be justice. And the American people deserve to know if there were public figures that were involved and if so to what extent and if to a criminal level, then prosecute to the fullest extent possible.

When you approach that politically as a promise and you over promise,

“you have to be careful of what you're setting up in expectations.”

Because, first of all, you don't over promise, you say, we're going to look into it.

We don't have the information in front of us. And we didn't our administration in the first term did not have a thorough investigation in place. At that time, we promised to investigate fully what happened. And that's the only promise you can make. But then not just she went beyond Pambani, went beyond that.

And it was like, well, no, no, no, the files are on my desk. I've got to write in the interview on Fox News. And it's like, you don't have the goods or the receipts or whatever. However, you want to phrase it. You, and another thing with the binder thing, you have to think this through.

“You have to think, wait a minute, why would any reasonable prosecutor hand people who are,”

whose job it is to tell the world a bunch of information that might be key to future prosecutions in a number of cases. Why in the world would you do that?

And the answer is you wouldn't.

And of course, there was nothing in those binders. When the narrative is the elite are getting away with sex trafficking and sex crimes against children. Yeah. And it's the elite and powerful in this country and around the world. Yeah.

And then you would Prince Andrew get caught up in all of that. Right. So you've got one of the elite. And that's the message and we're going to get them. And then you say, we've got the files and we've got it right here.

And then you come back after communicating that that narrative has been communicated on both sides. Just the general news. This was the elite doing things that are so evil and unconscionable. And we got them with the file. I just, you know, we, we've got the files here.

It is on my desk. We're going to get justice. And then it's not, sorry. There was nothing there. Politically, that is such an incredibly huge mistake.

Oh, it's the misstep of all missteps and in the scenario with that particular issue. And then everything else that you do from that point on can be questioned.

“No, it is that because right there is the key to someone's judgment there that their critical thinking abilities.”

How did you not walk that through creating that moment? That show of a moment. It was like some kind of bizarre display at a state fair or not even a state fair. You know, things that sets up in a, in one of the shopping center parking lots in your town. And as if you rickety rides, it was weird.

It was, it was anything but justice because if you're not focused on the justice for the victims.

Or if you might think this brings the president some credibility.

And neither one of those is the case. You didn't walk it through. You didn't vet that properly. You didn't see where that was going. Tells me that you didn't have, you don't have the proper judgment skills required for that job.

Because binders should be waived in court when you're in front of a judge and jury, prosecuting the people who are responsible for the crimes. Those are the binders. Those are the ones that put people behind bars. And then Todd Blanche was asked if that was the reason he said no. Right. Then what is the reason? Yeah, when he was, he was on just water yesterday.

Yeah, and yeah, there's what is, what is the reason that she was let go. Right.

And they're trying to soft walk this through.

They don't want this to, you know, look bad. But sorry, it was coming. This is a, it happened. There's going to be fallout. Well, no, she's in the president had nice things to say.

You know, it's kind of the, the nice firing. And she's in ready. It was, but this person is left immediately to pursue other interests. Well, it's, and you know, No, I didn't. I have no other interests. I don't have any other.

I want to do this. Are there interests? Why?

No, can I pursue this again?

I already fed the cat this morning. Right. There's there. I have no other interests. Everybody knows me.

My audience knows. I've got a lot of life. Exactly. I've got a zero other interests. It was, and, and it's walking through.

“And it's, you know, that's why he goes on.”

But Jesse Waters and quite frankly, that was a bad mood. There's. You wait a minute to let that smoke clear. And, and you had a good minute because today being good Friday, Sunday being Easter.

And we hope everyone has a blessed weekend. But you, you have the luxury of many families focusing on many people focusing on something different over the next few to several days. And then maybe the acting AJ comes in and says, Look, I'm going to talk about what happened between the President and Pam Bondi. You know, is, is for the President to talk about,

he can talk about that, but I'm going to tell you the job at hand is something I take very seriously as acting attorney general. And we're going to focus on getting justice for the American people. And you just leave it at that, right? It's, it's a very generic answer. I know it doesn't get anywhere.

I know it's spin, but it's, it's also not, you know, you, you don't try and come in and say, Oh, no, no, I, he said absolutely, the quote absolutely positively, not, and I'm like, yeah, it was, it was in part, you know, and, and it's not just the obscene things. Trump has helped that. Everybody knows on, on getting prosecutions on some political enemies.

How do we know? They've talked about it.

“You know, I was talked, I said, yes, yeah, you could basically, can you blame them?”

And you and I, I'm talked about how vivid we would be after everything, of course, you know, starting with the massive Russian hoax thing going against him. I, I'd be, I would be completely bald by now, because I'd be pulling my hair out every day. I'd be so vivid. Yeah, I mean, to over that. However, you know, how we talked about coming in and in, in, in, in January,

and in, after the election, and in January, 25, and you close the border in three weeks, after a while, other issues take precedent. There, there, the American people are glad you did that, but it only floats. It only gets you, you can only ride that parade ride for a short while. It doesn't really have legs. I would say there are a number of things here on prosecuting whoever it is.

Latisha James are going after any political enemy. I'm not saying they're above the wall that they are not. You know, you're talking about politically, the political win is very limited. It's, it's limited because now, other things take precedent. And, and that's what it comes down to.

“I, I don't know if anybody's even included those options on a poll asking, is it important for him to go after political enemies?”

But it would not be at the top of the list as my guess. We are Red Eye Radio. We'll be right back with more Red Eye Radio with every currently and Gary McNamara.

We are Red Eye Radio. He's our running, I'm Gary McNamara. Yeah, so I have no idea. Again, published reports, I've no clue who he's going to pick for attorney general. And how much focus he wants to have on that office right now that's, that's publicized. Right.

You know, I don't know, again, I don't know precisely why he did it. But to say that Epstein had nothing to do with her credibility as attorney general. I can't go along with that. Yeah, it all, some of you. You're here Lee Zeldin, Janine Piro, whatever, I don't know who he's going to pick.

Or just see how blanch doesn't keep him.

The word is, according to Wall Street Journal, that those are, that basically what you just lined out is those are the options.

“Um, I think Lee Zeldin would be a good choice. It could be that blanch works out, I don't know.”

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All across America, we are Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Hurley and I'm Gary McNamara. Thank you for being here. I get to feeling Christian Holmes husband needs to get something off his chest. All right.

It's a little late with that joke. I know I've had it for days. Okay, yes, you can say.

And I had no opportunity.

That's why I had to dive in. It's Friday. I just had to throw it clean. You know, we're cleaning off the desk. I didn't even work shop that one.

That's just it. That's the joke. That's it. There's nothing more. But also you.

[Laughs] Are... How many perverts are there? Is what I'm asking. [Laughs]

From the... Fedesh and hopefully no victims range right on one end of the scale to the... And I read this. There's so many stories that come up about these child predators. And it's...

I'm... You know, I've said for the longest time.

“You know, when you have to... when someone is arrested and they have to...”

For sexual crime, they have to register as a sex offender. And that whole system is flawed because the register, like, Get there in the parents house or something or at a place where they don't actually live. And they said, well, we need to straighten that out. Well, actually my bigger concern is the ones that haven't been caught yet.

Yeah, but you're not comparing. No, no, no. No, no, no, no. That's what I... that's why I wanted to say. From... one end of the spectrum and hopefully victimless situation of simple fetishes. It's not that they're simple in my mind, but, you know,

Oh, I... Where it's not... There are no victims, hopefully. To the point of the... You know, the...

Hmm. Okay, what's the... It's the... What's the scale of when you cross that line? Well, well, and...

And I don't know that, you know, the two are necessarily connected in any other way then. Okay. Is there versions? Well, let me ask...

I'll put it this way then.

Is there... We're not clinical psychologists. No, no. It's Jordan Peterson was in... You'd ask him.

Right. Oh, that would be a... But the... The question would be, is there... Uh...

Is... Is there a... A scale that leads From one to the other? And I'm talking not in a...

Moral judgment, but in a... Clinical scientific discussion. If that makes sense. Yeah. Right.

Or clinical... Clinical... Is... Clinical mental discussion. Right.

Because... Look...

“What consenting adults do in their bedroom...”

Is none of my business and what I mean by that is... I don't want to hear about it. It's... Oh. Did you hear the...

The scut about out there that they're talking about the...

The reports that... Christenome actually is the one who leaked it... Because of her relationship with Corey Lewandowski... Right. And this would create sympathy or...

And/or a justification for that. Now, I... As a... I will say this. As a theory...

If the... The sourced reports are true... It would be a... It would be a theory that would connect the dots. And it would also be a tactic that I would advise...

If that... If everything is in place and those aren't AI pictures that they are real photos... Uh... And that's going on. And he hasn't...

You know, but... No. And so... If that's... If that is the case...

And you're getting heat for your... Relationship then... I... And you're in that situation already... Then you probably want to do that.

Again... All of the above is a very messy situation.

There are other ways to handle it.

But... It's just... When I read stories on the... On the... Much more...

The serious level... I...

“I just ask myself because, you know, you see those pictures all the time.”

Uh... I think there was one story in the... Uh... New York Post... Uh...

About a... A teacher... And... Sometimes it's a female teacher... Having sex with a student.

You see those stories. There was... There was another story that I read. I forget where it may have been the post... New York Post.

But... Where a man dated... Uh... Dated... I think he was a teacher.

And he dated the mom of a student. He dated the mom of a 13-year-old girl. And... Allegedly... His attempt was to get access to the 13-year-old girl all along.

But I... I look at that. And it... It's just... For me...

Disturbing... In... In so many ways... Especially when it's a... A victim...

Again, what... Consenting adults do. And... And... And we're talking about victimless...

“Proversions or fetishes or whatever you want to call them.”

That's one thing. And it's... It's always... Raises the eyebrows. Well, I would like...

I would like to say this. Hmm. Where do they... Where do people get to... I've been...

So busy trying to survive my entire life? In where do people find time for fetishes? And... I mean... Well...

I... It's like... And... I wonder... If I had time for a fetish...

What would my fetish be? More gulf? You know, obsession with gulf... Maybe more... I mean...

You know what? It would be... More sleep. If sleep... Yes.

I would... I would have a sleep... I mean... I don't think that's a fetish. Because there's nothing sexual involved.

I just want to close my eyes and... And drink for eight hours. But... I don't think... I don't think...

That's a... That's a desire. I don't believe that laziness and apathy... So you stay in bed all day. I think it could be though.

It's that a... Enough, that's a thing. And... I'm not going to google it. Because number one all violate at least two dozen company policies.

And... Number two... I don't want to know the answer to that. It shows... And you don't send me email.

By the way, it's... Don't send me email or messages on social media. Yes, there is... No, no, don't stop. Don't do that.

Don't do a block. You would be... Do that. I don't want to know. Because...

Yeah. You... You have time... You're spending time doing that. And...

You're keeping it from your significant other. By the way... I don't... I don't... I don't think...

What... Knowing what I know about you that you have any... A man who says... I won't even walk around my house if nobody's in my house... With my shirt off.

Obviously... I don't. I... I... I absolutely will not.

Because my house has windows.

Number one. And also mirrors number two. And the mirrors actually is the biggest reason that I won't do that because you. Now... And...

And... And I also... I go to a debate with myself. Every time I take a shower. Should I...

Do I need...

“Is it necessary to get undressed in the shot, to take a shower effectively?”

Is it... Now I have... Because I have a pool. Yeah. But I still look around to make sure nobody's...

Like... On... At the pond fishing... You can see me. No.

Or anybody is on. I mean, it's a thousand feet away. The bike pad. And the... The hiking bike pad.

Still a thousand feet away. But I... Still make sure it's like... Okay. Am I far enough away from them where I'm just a blur?

And I actually can't see... Okay. So ugly I am. This... This is...

This is where I am. We go to the beach every summer. And... I joked once. I'm about wearing...

I wear a long sleeve shirt and jeans in the ocean. No. But... I do wear a long sleeve shirt. You know the fishing shirts?

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

“And I wear them when I go out on a boat on the sea and go fishing.”

And I'll wear that when I'm swimming. And I've got a good excuse now. You know, because of the whole sun thing. You know. And it's like, oh yeah.

I don't want to get burned. I don't want to get skin cancer. I'm just being safe. Actually what I'm doing is protecting the eyes of anybody else on that beach. That's what I'm doing.

I'm a thoughtful, generous person. Now I can't help that I'm wearing board shorts. I wear board shorts. But they go down almost to the knees. And so you only...

And honestly, you don't have to look. I would advise you don't. You know. So I try and get into the water when I get into the water. At least need deep.

That way we're all good. I've got to cap on and everything's good. And it's... But yeah. Because it's like you said, somebody has to...

You've got to spend time in the... Like the furry thing.

You know, the first time I saw the furry thing was on the TV show CSI.

Like, because it looked like a giant wolf had been run over on the highway. And it turns out it was somebody in a furry costume. And somebody had either hit them or-- No, it was the furry fetish. And they were having a convention.

The show took place in Vegas. So it was like, well, of course in Vegas. They got a furry convention. But then I learned... That's where I first learned of that thing.

And I was like, really? Again, consenting adults behind closed doors. Look, I wouldn't recommend a convict convention. That's weird.

“There are people who remember the whole thing.”

The stories came out adults who dress up in diapers. That the baby huge-- And sleeping in giant crib. Yes, the baby Huey fetish. I think they got--

That-- That I have a lot of questions for me. Because, wow, seriously. And then if you put a nipple on your bourbon bottle, we're gonna have a real talk.

Because I don't-- Because-- Which-- It's not-- That's--

No. It's just like a gin and tonic. It's in a damn baby bottle. That's just a hell of a way for me. Right?

Right now. Right. Then you're asking the bartender to burp you. No? You have gone too far.

And you should get dressed and grow up. I mean, the baby Huey fetish with the big diapers. Because that's right. It was for-- No.

Now, it's-- I--

We never got to this point.

We never got to this point, but-- Yeah. Do they ask to be changed, or-- I have to ask. We're--

I don't want to ask-- Because-- Because-- Because-- Because we have--

We have so many great listeners that will respond. I have found this. You're like, no, don't find that. And don't send that to me. Right now.

So help me God, I will block you. I know. I better not be in the airplane where it says, you know, basically the-- The baby diaper.

Yeah. Baby Huey-- We will fold down and change the diaper table. Well, it's-- You know, I--

I don't-- And-- And you're-- These people are-- It's--

It's-- For some of them-- A hobby. As we learn, you know, there's a story circulate.

Yeah, I know. And-- I don't know what--

What that costs to get the prosthetics in the case of norms.

Husband and-- And by the way, there's got to be a store for that, right? It's a store for-- There are many of factures making those things. You're right, though, with the-- with the furry fetish,

you do need to be committed. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

“You have to put some time and commitment into it.”

You probably have a whole guest room in your house committed to just the prosthetics. I didn't have the commitment to do this, but then I went to an Anthony Robbins lecture and--

Right. And he told me I should follow my dreams, and this is it. Well, that's not a dream that's a fetish. And there's the difference. And by the way, you've got to select an animal.

[LAUGHTER] You went with squirrel. You didn't go with wolf? [LAUGHTER] What?

How-- How does that work? How does that work? And technically, elephants have fur. So are you going that route?

[LAUGHTER] I mean, it's just-- I don't-- I don't really-- It's-- I don't-- I don't get it.

[LAUGHTER] You know what I mean?

“What-- what is it that is missing to that extent”

and your life that you've got to go that far? Again, not on my business. Behind closed doors, consenting adults. I'm just-- You're acting in the role of a clinical psychologist.

I just have-- What drives people in that way? Exactly. And again, don't send me emails with your answers because I don't want to see it.

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He's our running, I'm Gary McNamara. You know, just in our last discussion, I thought to myself, I got to make sure I bring this up because we haven't done it maybe in about two weeks, and we do it occasionally.

Yeah. A Fox, Front Page News Update. We've got to make sure I bring this up. We've got to make sure I bring this up. We haven't done it maybe in about two weeks,

and we do it occasionally. Yeah. A Fox, Front Page News Update. Oh, okay, here we go. There we go.

What's on the front page of Fox, and if you've been listening for the last couple of years, you know, we have fun doing this. All right. Let's check out some of the headlines.

Okay. Acting A.G. addresses reports, Bondi was ousted over botched Epstein files. Right. Iran announces threats,

following reported U.S. air strikes, collapsing nation's key bridge. Americans warned a potential attacks in vacation spot as border crossing fees double. Heggset fires Army Chief of Staff in sweeping military purge.

911 audio reveals surprising twist in moments following Tiger Woods crash. Artemis, two astronauts speak from space as they head towards the moon. Elizabeth Hurley wows in tiny red bikini bottoms

and they sweater as she shares beauty tips. Well, okay. Well, we eventually had to get to it, right? I mean, got to have the bikini stuff there.

We've got to have Fox always has to have the bikini story

in the middle of hard, serious news.

Maybe tomorrow is a president heading to Marlaga.

I think so. Why? The 911 audio, well, I'm not the audio, but you saw in the police camp. For Tiger?

Yeah. Told the officer that he just talked to President Trump. Yeah, just talked to the president. Yeah, did he, or did he just call the president?

“Or was he just saying that because he was saying that?”

Well, we didn't when President Trump commented on it. Within, you know, seen it was within a few hours of the occurrence of the event. He didn't say he had talked to Tiger.

But then again, maybe he wouldn't.

So. Yeah, that's a question. Is he somebody's going to say a question? I don't think that is the leverage for that. I just got off the phone with the president.

Yeah. Well, you also just had an accident here. So I tried it one time. The cops pulled me over and I said, I know Eric Harley. Yeah.

And I spent the night in jail. Yeah, no charges. No, that in the state of Texas, that will, that one night in jail. Yeah.

I would not mention my name at all.

Yeah.

“Even if you're just at coffee with a cop,”

you're going to go to the end cup. You're there. And take good at jail. You mentioned my name. So you know, all is right in the world.

Yeah. On the front page of Fox News.com. Yep. You get the bikini story. Yep.

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All right. Just another look at the entire birthright citizenship. Looking at it after just going through all the arguments that I've seen on it. I still think we're right constitutionally speaking. Here's Jonathan Turley talking about it yesterday on Fox News.

Okay. Okay. The birthright citizenship. All right. I don't know anyone who believes that the framers would have embraced

what we have today. We have become the world ship of fools. I mean, you have China that is virtually mocking us. They have hundreds of these companies that solely arrange for Chinese citizens to have to give birth in the United States.

It's done in the open. And it's making us into a laughing stock. But it also has robbed us of control over what it means to be a citizen in this country. The day is not over for the government. It's still possible that they could win.

But this was not a promising oral argument in that sense. So we have to look at where we go from here. And many of us believe we need to deal with this problem. And that may require a constitutional amendment. I have no it's almost as if the justices are ignoring what the framers of the

14th Amendment actually said is we have brought you here in the show over and over again. Another quote came out from one of the framers of the 14th Amendment. All right. I've mentioned in the other day and gave a few of the quotes. Jacob Howard, the senator, the Republican senator.

He wrote in 1866, this will not of course include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the United States. But will include every other class of person. I don't know how you can make it, you know, more clear than that.

And we went through the fact of who was omitted from this, because if you did not, if your loyalty, if the jurisdiction that you are loyal to was not the United States, including tribal Indians, if the parents did not have loyalty to the United States, if their loyalty was to the Indian nation, their children could not become citizens.

I don't know still how you beat that argument.

And it seems that that wasn't the focus of Mr. Sorry yesterday, which I didn't think he did a great job myself, as I've listened to more of his arguments. But yeah, I just had no idea how they get that the framers of the 14th Amendment, you know, when you look at the intent behind the civil rights law, and then the 14th Amendment, which was to back up the civil rights law,

I don't know how you come to that conclusion. It doesn't make any sense to me. And every time I read, no, no, no. It was absolutely everybody.

I'm like, we'll explain it to me.

And then debate the points that these senators made. And nobody is doing that on the other side. It's, it just, it just seems. You know, the, claims, trains and automobiles have a point. But if you're legal point, make your case.

You know, I, I don't know how they're, it just seems that they're so off base here.

“I think there's a concern with the court, with the high court,”

based on this being an executive order. I think there is great concern, and I think we may see this come back and the decision, and because all the analysis, the headlines on the analysis is, well, based on the hearing, the court seems to be inclined to deny Trump on this. And I thought, well, okay, but let's get to the why.

And it could be that, all right, this isn't to be done to executive order. This is to be done through a legislative. But if the intent, this is, again, where you get into the mess. If the intent of the 14th Amendment was supposed to be for blacks. Right.

Whether they were free blacks or slave blacks at that time. Yes. If that was the original intent, then Trump's saying that his Department of Justice, who was executive order, is going to defend what the 14th Amendment means.

It should matter if he puts out an executive order or not. You know, Jonathan Turley was saying this may need, may need, we may need another constitutional amendment on this. Well, then that means if that's the case, if he believes that, that means that Congress can't change it, and the president can't change it.

Because either the 14th Amendment means one thing, or it means 180 degrees of opposite. Yeah.

“And that's why I'm not, and you and I went through that yesterday about the,”

about the possibility, can you parse it and say, well, no, if Congress did it and came up with the law, well, then are you saying that the amendment doesn't mean anything? That an amendment can be, that the original intent of an amendment can be changed by Congress, but not the president?

I, I don't know where they go on this in the decision. Unless they just say the president can't do it, and then that's all they, they don't go any further on it. Yeah, right. But, but you don't, I, I, it just, well, because,

Yeah, this case just doesn't make sense.

“I don't expect them, I think you mentioned it yesterday or day before.”

I don't expect the high court to come back and say, but this is our interpretation of this, in the constitution, I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be a more narrow ruling based on the process of this,

and that the, that Congress, basically, would be left because the arguments seem to not represent what the position was of the administration.

I don't think they properly argued the position going back to the intent of the 14th Amendment. So I, I, I think there's a concern with it being an executive order. Because they were looking at the precedent that was set that we believe was incorrect. I forgot the name of the case again.

Yeah, the Wong family.

Yeah, the Wong family, and I'm like,

“but you and I read with that judge said, and we went, that's not an accurate representation of the 14th Amendment.”

You're taking liberties there. Because we all know what the intent was. Right. If slavery had not happened and blacks were not forcibly taken to the United States. Whether they ended up being free or slaves during the, the civil war and after the civil war.

If that didn't happen, there would not not be a 14th Amendment. Right. Yeah.

And, and I don't know, and I spent a couple of hours yesterday trying to look at the opposition and went,

“well, you're, you're not making any sense. You're making a generic statement.”

But you're not actually focusing on what, the framers of the 14th Amendment meant by it. And how it related to the civil rights act and the civil rights act that the 14th Amendment was supposed to give cloud to legal cloud to was. About blacks. Yeah. Be it they were free, but not citizens or slaves at that moment and not citizens. But after the civil war with the emancipation proclamation, they, you know, at that point as we know.

They all became free at that point. Right.

But if you were children of slave owners or, or I saw this argument yesterday, or free blacks at the time,

to me that would make any difference. It's were you forcibly taken over here. Right. And you're here and you're settled and you have no place else to go. Right. Well, what happened to you was unconscionable. Because at that point, you're subject to the jurisdiction without, again, this was not about coming here voluntarily. You were here and whether you were freed in that moment when the 14th Amendment was ratified or or not.

You were brought here against your will. And that 14th Amendment amendment is designed was designed to give slaves and freed slaves. The same rights and citizens. You are a citizen and you get the same protection as a citizen. Right. And we have a very different situation here, but again, when you when you apply the intent of the 14th Amendment,

you can't just say to me, it doesn't in fact hold any water at all. If you just say, well, that means anybody right here. Right. No, it doesn't. These aren't individuals who are brought here against their will.

It doesn't apply at all the same way it does the 14th Amendment did with slaves and freed slaves and their children. And trying to make that case, it's like, you know, again, I don't know why they couldn't get that point through and arguing the case for the administration.

“Now, I think it is an uphill battle on the technicality, I guess the technicality side of this being an executive order.”

I think the court has an issue with that. Right. But I don't see why they would have an issue with that. If they, for example, if a judge believes that the 14th Amendment was only about blacks free or slaves at that point, then what does it matter if the president's going to enforce with the meaning of the 14th Amendment is, doesn't matter? Well, the only reason they could say only question that came up was, is it retroactive or is it not and what do you do in this case if,

and they didn't address this counsel for the president didn't address this? And you have it still, but still it's based on the point, what is the 14th Amendment about? Sure. So the only reason they would say we don't want, no, the president can't do the executive order on it. Well, then you must mean that the 14th Amendment means everybody who comes to this country and has a child, if they're here legally,

if he puts out an executive order that we're going to enforce the 14th Amendment,

“the courts can't do anything about it. If they believe that what he is saying and what the executive order is the intent of the 14th.”

Yeah. Well, some are wondering that that was the analysis that I saw. Oh, I know. I know that I agree with you. I saw that, too, to me. It just doesn't make, I mean, the point is legally moot at that point because it's like, well, then are you saying that Congress can do it? Well, because that was a detergent which brought up, my God. I mean, could this isn't that hard?

Well, if this isn't that hard, you've got so many of these opinions that don't seem to make any kind of sense.

Well, and if you look at again what I think Dershwitz brought up a great point that has a lot of depth here and more room for conversation.

And that is if you take the word jurisdiction or jurisdiction by whom? Well, those who create law. That's Congress. Right. Does jurisdiction mean that Congress can make that and that's that would be, but, but nobody else was talking about that in the actually the court case from what I heard.

“No, but I wonder if the opinions when the opinions are written, it will be, that that's what jurisdiction means.”

Maybe. Yeah. We are right, I radio.

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The Chinese and other countries businesses coming over and just saying, All right, we're going to send a bunch of people over here and their kids become pregnant and then boom. Yeah. We have Chinese citizens over here, it's just, it's mind boggling. Yeah.

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